The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2022 Australian GP Review

Episode Date: April 10, 2022

The LB boys review the third round of the 2022 championship in Melbourne, where Charles Leclerc took a dominant victory ahead of Sergio Perez and George Russell. JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Charlotte, Clair winning by just over 20 seconds. It has just gone 8 o'clock in the morning here in the UK. Again, as I mentioned on the preview podcast, it is incredibly tough being a European F1 fan. But Sam, are we expecting a quieter version of you this timeout? You, if listeners, folks who have tuned in, whatever it may be for you, you should see what the three of us looked like

sat here recording this at the moment. Fair. We are in hoodies with tea and coffee, try and keep our eyes over. We look like a state. Usually, if you've ever heard late night, Sam, when we've done a podcast at 10 or 11, that is wild. This will be like a mellow high. You'll be all calm, then something will hit you and you don't know what's going on. So we're in for a ride, I imagine.

I don't know what's coming out of my own mouth, so it'll be fun. I mean, Sam, do you ever know what's about to come out of your mouth? no so guys it hurts I know we're privileged Europeans but that alarm oh my god

half past five get in the bin it's just Sunday also just to pick up something you said Sam I've known you for 10 years mellow is not a word

I could go down the list of a thousand words to describe you mellow doesn't make the short list for the 1,000 words. Bloody hell. If it was so unmellow, it's going to marshy in my mellow, is there? Bloody hell. What?

Marshmallow? Sure. Oh, it's going to be a good one. It's going to be something. So, yeah, three privileged Europeans complaining. That's what you've got in store, ladies and jets. That's all of history, isn't it? Yeah, very true.

Very true. We're just keeping up with the country. There's plenty to discuss. Plenty to discuss. Let's get straight into Leclair's win because, as mentioned in the intro there, Lecler versus Vestappen has been a feature of the first two races of the season.

This time around, Leclair, pretty comfortable pole position. He then goes and wins by 20 seconds. Obviously, it wouldn't quite have been 20 if Vastappen was still in the race, but it was still heading towards a very comfortable victory. So, Sam, to kick things off on this, firstly, how much of a statement was this by Charles LeClaire? And secondly, with Max Verstappen, haven't retired twice from the first three races, how big of a factor is reliability going to be for the rest of the year?

It is a huge statement. Charles LeClaire has absolutely laid down the gauntlet. He's kind of said, you know, here I am. I'm the top dog this year. I've turned up. I think a lot of people have been a little bit surprised just at how much Charlotte-Clau has levels himself. up between last season and this season. Carlos Sykes, of course, beat LeCler in points last season, and that was due to a couple of lucky results, but a couple of those lucky results came through

mistakes of Charles Lecler, and already, we're three races in, and the chap has absolutely removed mistakes from his game. The level of thinking behind his driving is fantastic. The raw pace, which he's always had, is still being delivered at the front of the grid, qualifying is fantastic, race pace is fantastic, even the wheel-to-wheel combat that we saw on the restart of the safety car where you know what it wasn't the best getaway and max got alongside and then you know what defended brilliantly pulled away out of the DRS zone off into pure comfortable territory there no no fretting no panicking he had everything under control if i'm max wastapping now who has definitely got the car to challenge for this championship and at

certain points the red ball has looked like the better race car um maybe not today but at certain points it has throughout the season and yet two out of three races so six six 66% of the time you have not finished due to a power train issue. RB power trains now stands for really bad power trains because they are not delivering, are they? They are not consistent. They're not solid. Yeah.

He's top banter. Really good. And if I'm Max there, I'm thinking, really bad banter. What more can he do at that point, right? He's delivering everything he can. He's sticking it on the front row. He's fighting for that front place every time. he's beating his teammate in every single race,

apart from where he's Ging Ska, because it doesn't matter. Yeah, Max Verstappen, currently, what, 6th in the driver's championship, after being in the front two places for every single race so far, having it taking away from him because of reliability issues. We've seen new eras can be so decisive with reliability. We've seen how much teams can be plagued with engine failures or aerodynamic problems and in the same thing that's happening with Mercedes, right? They've taken on risk, and currently it's not paying off,

and their championship hopes are in real question. Could the same happen for Red Ball? Well, if they carry on with a 66% record of failures, they won't, but if they would, they'd be out of this. Well-perform, Mercedes are out of it, right? Mercedes was a league instructor today, and their car is a state. So Max was snapping, there's definitely got some questions to ask.

I think Checo, you can hear the panicking his voice when he saw Max go, and he went, what's happened to Max's car? Because it happened to me again in round one, is it going to happen now? They are clearly worried, and they should be, because that engine needs to get them around the entire season, not just the next couple of races.

And if they're failing this many times, at this rate, Shell-Lacler will have the championship well in his grasp well before the end of this season. Harry, how much of a statement is this from LeClau? And again, on reliability, how much of a factor is that going to be throughout the rest of the year? Yeah, it's a big old statement from Leclair.

And on the reliability concerns for Red Bull, I think today, more than any other race this season, I know we've only had three. but today proves more than anything that they can't afford to be unreliable because even when the car is working, Lecler and Ferrari are going to be tough to be this year, I think. And yeah, like Sam said, Rebel do seem to have good race pace, some good race pace, not today so much, they definitely did jeddar.

But yeah, I just think they're going to have to be on their A game because LeCler is an impressive, impressive form you know following on from what wasn't his greatest year last year he's just it just it's everything's clicking isn't it it just it's all you know the car's working he's in a he's in great form everything seems very under control and as Sam said about you know the restart with the only time really Vastappens was close to him the player was just very calm about it sort of defended very cleanly and then just drove off and it was yeah it just all seemed fairly easy I'm sure it wasn't under the helmet but it's that yeah when you have

those days and you see an F-1 driver just drive off into the distance can be quite ominous so big statement from Naclair and for Stappam will know more than anyone that they can't afford to do this anymore you know in terms of breaking down because the championship campaigns are built on consistency and as his was last year and they can't afford to be sat at the side of the road while the check of flanks being waived. Yeah, I mean, from LeClaire's perspective, every race he's won up until this point has generally come around with some drama, it's generally come around with a battle, and it's great that he's proven himself in that sort of race and he'll have to do so again, I'm sure, throughout the duration

of the season. But the fact that he has also now got this position where he has had, controlled the whole race and it was never under threat regardless of whether vastappan was going to finish or not he was always going to walk this one and uh that's very encouraging to see and he'll be delighted that well at least from a personal like driver's championship perspective he'll be delighted that carlos signs who will get onto in a bit couldn't capitalize on such a dominant Ferrari you know if if we look at the three races thus far the the race where Ferrari have been the most dominant is the one that signs didn't make it past lap three. So it is encouraging from LeClaire's perspective.

It is a bit of a statement because you know, you don't see too many 20 second victories. And it gives them a bit of a buffer zone potentially. Like if they do go to the next race and they're not quite as quick as Melbourne, that would still give them the advantage over Red Bull. I don't think Red Bull should be too worried from a pace standpoint in that if Vestappen had finished both of the races in which he retired, obviously that you retired from second in both occasions, the lead for Leclerre would be single digits. So pace-wise, I wouldn't be too concerned. And I think it will ebb and flow as we go out through the season. But from a

reliability standpoint, yes, it's a massive concern. I mean, two reliability-related DNFs in three races. I'm trying to be Stapman on the fly here, but I cannot remember the last time before Bahrain that Max Verstappen retired due to a reliability related issue. I know he had retirements last year, but they were, from memory, all collisions. I think you have to go back to probably the early part of the 2020 season before you find the last time he retired. Maybe he didn't have one that year. I can't quite remember. But now he's had two in the early. in three races. So yes, this is a concern. And ultimately, if it is close, that, you know, that might well decide it. The new era does bring about reliability questions in a way that they

weren't there last year. If you think back to last year, it was Vastapa versus Hamilton in this epic fight, but reliability didn't really come into it at all. But they were both bulletproof reliability throughout the entire year. And any lost points were from the collision in Silverstone, the collision in Monza, I don't know, Hungary again, collision damage. So it wasn't really a question, whereas now it's absolutely brought to the forefront. So from a reliability standpoint,

yes, I think Red Bull need to be slightly concerned. Last point as well, just on the dominance of this LeClaire win. And I do make a bit of a joke about this seemingly, well, I was going to say every episode, I'll probably make a joke about it every five minutes on each episode, but Ferrari not being very good when it comes to strategy. and they have been a bit better this year thus far. But just for peace of mind,

if you can be that dominant to the point where Ferrari can mess up the strategy and they'd still win, that's good for Lecler. You know, the fewer questions you have to ask of that Ferrari strategic team, the better it is for Charles Leclair, in my view. So he'll be very buoyed by what happened today. You're a plan A plus five. What's that about? Plan A plus five.

The Claire has basically decided to start the season and going, right, what was our biggest issue last year? Right, it was the pits. Everything inside of the pits is the problem. So if I just don't use the pits, unless I have to, I'll win. And he's done that. You think he's like, the problem was people kept saying plan B and plan D and plan E. We're not doing that anymore.

We have one plan. It's just a win. I know what's happened here. And admittedly, I can't remember which way around it. is but if it was this way around i know what's happened to it they heard i think it was lando norris they heard him go plan a plus five and ferrari thought that sounds great we'll copy that we'll sound cool as well plan a plus five charles yeah go ahead charles they're like literally not in any of our strategic documents those words but yeah sure i'll just keep going quicker

that's not i'm gonna keep driving if that's all right guys gonna keep first place i mean from from one of the Ferrari garage worked incredibly well this weekend. Other side of the garage, a pretty horrible weekend for Carlos Sines. And Sines, you know, we've questioned his outright pace versus Leclair, but one thing that hasn't really come into question is his consistency. But this weekend seemed to be very much out of character. Obviously qualified P9. He did have that issue where he couldn't complete his first flying lap, but then couldn't also do a second one. And then went backwards at the start of the race, only to then find his way into the gravel only a couple laps in so sam it's already getting to a point where this points gap is

building what can signs do about it are you concerned for him this was horrifying for carlos science this was the worst thing that could have happened to him was it if he had a reliability issue that would have been better in my opinion because he wouldn't have been to blame he could have go out the car and gone ah it's made my p9 start look a lot you know all right fine we were going to have about reliability issues, so whether I started second, first, ninth, 18th,

the car was going to fail, the car was going to fail. The issue here is every single issue that came about this weekend was entirely on his own doing. He is to blame for every single step

that went wrong here, which is, again, with Ferrari, he's done well to be the only person that's in them wrong, so well done, Carlos,

but equally, this is shocking for your championship hopes, this is shocking for your, possibly for your career at Ferrari, because if you know what Ferrari are like, you cast your minds,

A way back to the Schumacher Barrichello days, and Barichello was never even close to be able to get a chance at a equal driver status, regardless of how much pace he showed in a weekend, regardless of how strong he was. The moment you give up a chance of being the lead driver at Ferrari, it's cemented. You are that lead driver,

and we saw the same again with the likes of a longstone and Massa, Vessel and Kimi Reiking. They have a favourite, they have a lead driver, and that's how they'd like to do things. Carlos Syngx three races in. We say after the first few races, is okay, he's getting himself up to form, he's getting himself ready for the rest of the season,

taking himself a couple of races to adjust, that's fine. This is a new era. It's going to take different people at a different amount of time to get used to how things are going. But when you then get to the third race, when things should be starting to click, and it falls apart in this manner,

it is devastating for your championship hopes and your chance of really rivaling Charles Eclure a team that is already essentially his team because of how long he was there beforehand. But now the points gap has happened in the championship, He's behind George Russell, who, you know, and we'll get on to the Mesaig's conversation in a little bit, but Russell hasn't exactly had the best start to this championship.

You know, obviously, Barrae was brilliant, dig well in Jeddah. He plagued the luck of the cars a little bit here in Melbourne and then took advantage really well and had a good race here again. And he's behind him now. So when you're Carlos Sites, you're starting hard ties, you roll all the way backwards off the grid, and then within the first 10 laps, you absolutely bring it into the grass and the gravel. It is rookie, rookie areas. and what made Carlos Seinfant stand out last season, wasn't got his qualifying, was not his raw pace,

it was his ability to pick his way through the grid, it was his ability to move his way up through positions, and then end up sometimes either finishing right behind LeCler, or right in front of LeCler, how often were we seeing? The two Ferrari cars are at it again, right next to each other. Almost every single race last season, this season, he is nowhere,

consistency out the window, and he's lost his biggest perk currently to his driving ability. He needs to start clawing this back, he needs to find some outright pace, like Sergio Perez has started to do, actually. Compliments to Sergio Perez, Carlos Sites needs a bigger that spark behind him. Otherwise, it's going to be immediate relegation. He will get no priority in this Ferrari team. This was devastating.

Harry, how much of a hit was this for Carlos Sines overall? Yeah, it was a bad weekend for Carlos. And, you know, in the same way that it's, uh, that it's, uh, that it, it was a bad weekend for Carlos. It was bad for Stappan and Red Bull breaking down when LeCler was so dominant. It was the same for Carlos and falling off the road. With Clare being so dominant, it was just the complete opposite of what he needed after. They weren't tough at first two races, but he wasn't on the pace of LeCler, and he needed to respond to it.

And to be fair to, in most of course he seemed like he was kind of there or thereabouts in with the shouts of it. But yeah, I don't buy the argument that he was unlucky. weekend he wasn't unlucky with that first red flag in q3 but then he bottled his second second run that's all on him and then it was it was all him who threw it off the road in you know a couple of laps into the race so yeah it's gonna it's gonna you know he's gonna you know he's gonna dig deep next round because the the momentum that we spoke about previously that the player is going to have now is building and building especially with signs off the road so he needs to he needs to hit back fast at the next race to stop it because as Sam said

otherwise he's going to just fall into that number two role and become a Barracketto or a Masa which obviously signs isn't going to want to do, going to want to prove himself. So yeah tough weekend for Carlos. I think

how he responds now will be crucial for his championship hopes. Yeah it was a tough weekend. You're right. And for me the worst thing about it is the timing. It was just an awfully timed bad weekend in that, not that he knew this at the time, but Max Verstappen has now retired from two out of three races. Perez has retired from one out of the three races and had some pretty bad luck in Jeddah

at one of the other two. The Mercedes are there in terms of points, but they're certainly not there in terms of pace. So, and this was a weekend where Ferrari was very obviously the quickest car. It was such an opportunity for Carlos Sines to really establish his place a second in the driver's championship and be that key main rival to Charles Leclair for the championship. And instead, you know, his race ends up lasting two or three laps. And yeah, like, I'm saying, he's just, it's just badly timed. And I'm with you in that I don't really see it as bad luck. In qualifying, I don't care that his first run was affected by, uh, by a red flag. You get two runs.

And sometimes you've got to perform on that second lap. And ultimately, you know, the track ramps up to the point where that one is, you go lap. Like that is the time to perform. And if you can't, you know, if you can't withstand the pressure, that plays into the championship. So I don't see the qualifying effort as bad luck. I saw this as a, I don't want to say a bottle job, but, you know, he should have done better in that second run. and in the race itself, I know he fell back

and a lot was made about, well, he's starting on the hard tires, he's gone back a number of positions because they're not warmed up yet. Alonzo didn't drop any positions on the start, and he was on the hard tire, so I'm not quite sure what the logic is there. It was an awful guess away, and then obviously the actual incident in itself where he ended up beached in the gravel,

it was just completely unnecessary, so early on in the Grand Prix, and I don't know whether, I don't know whether that was pressure related. I don't know whether he felt that I need to get up there as quickly as possible. Otherwise, I'm not going to make it. And that forced him to make such an error. He is a great driver.

He proved that last year. You can't beat Charles LeClauhr over a full season without being a great driver. But it seems as if the faster the car is, the more Shal LaClair can unlock it versus Carlos Sides, who's still there and thereabouts, but just doesn't have that elite grade that Lecler has. so I would be worried if I was Carlos Sines. I think Sam, you might have mentioned on the preview that he needed his first win here in Australia. And quite frankly, you know, even next race or the race after,

I think probably next two or three races, three is probably the max. He needs that first win over Shao La Clair. And not just a win, like a proper, I was quicker than you this weekend, and I won as a result of that rather than perhaps a win because of a safety car. and top critics are celebrating. Rental Family is the perfect feel-good movie of the year. What you need me for? We need a token wife guy.

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and we'll play some out. But we'll start with our own views on this. Harry, Driver of the Day. I'll leave the obvious one, because the other one is Shad of Clay. but I'll go for Goatstrap man Al Bono Alex Albon

He got lucky with the safety car And obviously the tyre situation Helped him But I think his pace In that second half of the race When he's on the tyres that are You know

The ones he's been on from the start Was highly impressive And kind of flew under the radar And I didn't really Clock that he was going to come out in the point there well well in 10th in the end. So yeah, I think it was really impressive.

But yeah, obviously, Charlerclair is a prime contender. But I'll say Alex Albonn because we can't agree on everything. And we don't. Sam, the driver of the day. Albano, my tyres aren't gone. I just make them last forever and ever and ever and don't pit. They're no pit strat. 5D chess being played there from Williams and Albino.

He's not my driver of the day, but you know what? I'm so glad he had that performance because I think we had a few doubters coming back to the sport especially after the Red Bull stuff and the year out and now joining Williams I think some people were a little bit

unsure about how he was going to do but this has been a really good start and he's flat in Latifie at the moment so worst drive of the day will be fun but in terms of my actual drive of the day I am going to go for the obvious contender Charlotte Claire when you get that level of dominance

against someone like Max Verstappen who has proved himself to go up against the best and he just made it look so breathtakingly easy sorry he is a real talent he has really raised himself to that that heavenly status and I can't see him coming down any time soon God de Claire

definitely driving the day that was so harmonical heavenly choir see beautiful stuff that'd be the third track on our album no one wants to to hear that. Driver of the day from my side. Sometimes we get to this segment and there are like

four or five contenders. For me, I could not make a case for anyone outside of the two that have been mentioned, Leclair and Alvin. I couldn't even think who third would be. That's how far clear. I think those two are in this, but I will go for Leclair as well. Moses Leclair seems like a long time ago now. he is very much back to God status. God Leclair doing wonders. I know qualifying doesn't factor into our discussion here, but he did claim poll by a very comfortable margin. And the race, you never felt at any moment this was going to fall away from him,

even with that poor restart that he had the second time around and Vastappen was able to get almost alongside him. Never in doubt. Never in doubt. Has he picked up the fastest lap at every single race so far this season? Yes. Did he get it in Jeddah? I can't remember. I think he did. Anyway, someone let us know.

If he has gotten it, I'll be interested to see how many times someone's had the fastest lack of the race in a row, and if he is... How close he is going to... Worst driver of the day, Sam, who have you got? Now, then as you said, sometimes there are a lot of contenders for a certain discussion that we have. And Drive of the Day, this time, you're right. I think there were two, Alburn and the Clare. Worst driver of the day, I feel like at one point or another,

maybe half the grid could have been considered for worst driving of the day. It was, there were some shocking displays going on out there. I'm going to list off a few games. Nicholas Latifi, again, your teammates doing what he's doing after a year out of the sport. You've been in that team consistently now. What you're doing, mate? Where are you? Sebastian Vettel, I know you haven't had a lot of time in the car. You've been unwell, but you're a four-time world champion.

you're an ex-Ferari driver, I expect you to maybe be delivering a bit above this level, and it was atrocious. Lance Stroll. Do you know how to drive wheel to wheel, and to prevent people driving wheel to wheel? You can't keep weaving down the straits even after you're given the penalty.

Doesn't work like that at all. Absolutely useless. Carlos Sites. Mate, you could have really cemented yourself as a championship rival here, and you put it in a biffabing. And there are a few other games that I've been kind enough not to mention. I think for me, I'm going to give it to...

Oh, it's a bit of a lucky dip, actually. And you know what? Because of the impact on the championship, I'm giving it to Carlos Sainz. The man, realistically, all the others did not lose a lot. They could get away with a bad race. But Sikes needed to capitalize here, and he's absolutely throwing it away. So, yeah, I was really disappointed by him. Out of all the others, I expect there to maybe not be greatness.

Carlos Sikes, he had everything at his disposal and he was useless with it. So Sikes's worst driver of the day. I don't disagree with the names that you mentioned there. Sines is definitely in contention for the reason you gave. Sebastian Vettel. Vettel would have got my worst driver of the day at any other Grand Prix if it wasn't his first race of the season. That's the only thing that saved him from getting it in my view.

I feel like this is going to be already because. a pattern and it's going to continue to be a pattern throughout this year. I've got to go for Nicholas Latifie. It's another bad weekend. You know, I can't not give it to him because I've given it to it before. Like, it was still bad. You know, he finished 16th. It was only Alonzo behind him because of his extra pit stop.

And he just didn't happen for him. And Alburn, you know, fair play. The strategy helped him out a great deal. Now, rather than just the dominance of the first two races in terms of Alman versus the Teefe, it's actually displayed in points as well now. So I'll have to go for Goat Tifi, I'm afraid. Or not for a goat Tifi, I guess. Worst drive-a-the-day for you, Harry.

I am going to have to go for Carlos Sines. I agree with all the three you've mentioned. But, yeah, I just think the pressure. I don't know the pressure of trying to perform against Charle-Clair, obviously you're trying to make up for a poor qualifying yesterday. You don't need to... When you're in the fastest car, at least one of the fastest cars, you don't need to be making dodgy moves and throwing it off the road

because that's not how you're going to win a championship. So, yeah, it's car off-signs for me. I agree with what he said, Ben. Fettel was contender, but because it was his first race back, let him off and I kind of forgot about Latifi to be honest I forgot he was there didn't really see him did we kind of says a lot don't it most air time we got was when Strohl was driving into him I feel like Leclair and Latifie got the same amount of air time but for the opposite reasons I think the best moment was when Lecler

lapsed Latifie right and it's like oh the two unicorns are on the TV together look at them, a magical moment. Yeah, pretty devastating. A gang for Latifi. I would absolutely watch a TV show called The Two Unicorns, which is Charles LeCler and Nicholas Latifi's adventures around the world.

Yeah, let's make it happen. I will voice both of them. Well, we've got a few driver of the days and worst driver of the days from the fans, as mentioned before. So, Harry, kick us off on that one, please. Oh, yeah, here we go. Everyone, cross your fingers.

that this works. My driver of the day was Leclair. He got pulled by three tents, led the race start to finish, due two safety car restarts, got the fastest lap, didn't make any mistakes really and just generally had a great drive. My worst driver of the day is probably science. I mean, he just had a horrible weekend, qualified ninth and, you know, was out on lap two. Not wrong. Sultry tones.

Sultry, sultry, sultry tones. Who was that? Was that MPK? on our Discord server. Oh, that might have, it might have been Buddy. Sorry, Lance, we're pretty bad. It was one. It was pretty one he is. Um, this is either at MBKL buddy.

My driver of the day has to go to, uh, Charles Leclair. Solid drive. But the, uh, worst driver of the day is definitely Lance, no mirrors stroller. What even are mirrors? doesn't need him doesn't need them and you know please forgive us for not knowing which way around you came there guys because you know

there's a lot for us to remember two submissions look we are not we never claim to be professionals we're trying to be accepted good thing we don't at least it worked this time it's also we've managed to make it work before nine o'clock on a Sunday while we were all up at half-past five give us a break we are trending in the right direction

look at us going on unlike Carlos sides do you have a moment of the race Sam yeah it's it's torn between two it was I think I'm going to actually give it to the one I think I would before I first thought about this

and that is where all the midfield cars looked like they were literally playing snake together and some people have said that this race was a bit boring I know sometimes when you have a dominant wing people go because the fight wasn't for the wing. Okay, the fight for the wing is always very excited. But I love the midfield battle.

I love seeing seven or eight cars almost half a second from the top behind each other for nine, 10, 11 laps. It was absolutely brilliant to watch. You didn't know where the moves are coming from? Bottas, Gassley, Stroll, Latifie. No, sorry, that's the wrong one. Albon, that one.

Ocon. Yeah, you know, these things happen. Magnuson getting in there. Schumacher was getting in there. It was really good to watch. Alonkso trying to cut through all the strategy. I loved that pack and it was really fun and that couldn't happen in the last set of regulations because they couldn't stay that close together for that long.

But every time we pan into one of those cars, there was four other cars around them and it was brilliant. And I think Martin Brunner, in the UK commentary, said it's more like Junior Formula, the way they're darting around, they're trying to send one down the inside and they don't know where to place their car. They could be overtaking as quickly as they are trying to overtake. And this is what the regulations is trying to create for us. and I thought it worked.

So for me, this was a big tick, really enjoyed that. That's moment of the race. Moment of the race from you, Harry. I agree with Sam on that one because that was a delightful little scrap. It's very scrappy, wasn't it? Some were falling off the road at the end, and it was good. Moment of the race for me and, I guess maybe overtaker race for me, was Checo

on Lewis Hamilton which around the outside into the faster game which I feel like on the commentary was under-hyped a bit because that was a bloody spicy move considering who he was racing as well I was like

damn Checo alright son so yeah I'll go for that one because that probably the most awake I felt during that race not that was a dull race but just I was like whoa okay

fair doves fair enough my moment at the race is just Williams not knowing what pit stops are

it was fantastic Alex Albin just kept going and he kept going and he kept going and he kept going and then a safety car comes at an opportune time

you think okay just like Alonzo Magnuson did he's going to go on to the medium tyres that'll work out pretty well for him no doesn't pit then

just keeps going and it worked. Magnuson didn't finish in the points. Alonzo didn't finish in the points. Albon did. So Williams, they might not understand how a pit lane works, but it's good for them that they don't. I did really think at one point like they'd have just forgotten. I thought they just went, one car is that far back. The other one's only here through pure luck. Should we just do like a testing session? If we just keep going. He's actually still going now. Albon is still going, yeah, he's still going round on those hard tires. The man is the new tire where.

King. It's impressive. I love that. 40 laps on these. Nah. 57, mate. Easy. We'll very quickly gloss over this, but we'll just review some bold predictions from midweek. I think we should take our time, actually. Let's take our time. No, no, no.

Really go slow with this. Analyze every moment. We've got a lot to get through. I've got someone in my ear, you know, pushing me along on this, so it will have to be quick. I'm in your ear, bang. It's me. I'm in your ear. And I'm in your other ear. Get on with it. Harry, your bold prediction was that there would be a triumphant return for Sebastian Vessel and that he would score points. He scored a fine, but no points.

You know when I said Sebastian Veto, I think you misheard me because I actually said Alexander Albonne. Oh. Oh, that was it. Like a lot more sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good. My bold prediction was that Botas would get on the podium. He was five out. Yeah, that didn't quite work.

And Sam, okay, let's just review here. So Sam predicted that Bottas would finish P2. However, that was not his bold prediction, because of course it wasn't. His bold prediction was that a Mercedes would be on the podium, which George Russell did. So you are correct Oh it's good to be right

It's so good I love it I think you should Technically be disqualified Because it wasn't the boldest of you I'd be really anxious That was not If we're gonna start being the FIA

Implementing rules after things happen Then sure that can happen from now on But that wasn't not a rule So I'm taking it as the dubie In the Discord actually Should serve the disqualified I own the Discord I rule the district

Now and by the end of the end of the End of the recording, well ever, yeah. If anyone comments on that poll, I am going to change all your game to Turgface in the Discord. I have that power. We're not a dictatorship here, folks. Until we want to meet. You actually putting that in there? Yes.

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IKEA, bring home to life. And we'll move on to our next topic, which is looking at the Mercedes battles. So they finished P3 and P4. It feels like Mercedes's objective in this first few races is just make the end of the Grand Prix and watch as everyone else retires. And it seems to be working somewhat because they're still second in the constructors' championship. And George Russell himself is second in the driver's championship, which I don't really

know how, but he is. Here, George Russell beat Lewis Hamilton for the second straight race, although it was, was he far closer than it was in Jeddah. So Sam, overall, this Russell versus Hamilton fight, can you see Russell sustaining this for a whole year? I don't know. I think, as we've already mentioned, he capitalised on a lucky call, and that is part of Formula One. You know, every driver has benefited from a safety car appearing at the right time and you know what he took advantage of it really really well and i think that shows the mark of a driver who is continuing to grow he is understanding of where he needs to be he even got the call from his engineer at one point when he was fighting checker and said look george it feels inevitable

that we're going to lose this place your tie is going to make it to the end it's not worth fighting if you're going to lose tire wear just let him go we're happy with a four at that point it was a fourth and fifth then obviously turned into a third and fourth so i feel like he's obviously still having to learn on the fly, and if he continues to learn as quickly as he is, then yeah, I think George Russell could be a competitive force against Lewis Hamilton. Do I think that across the entire season, George Russell can out drive Lewis Hamilton in his first season at Mercedes. It still feels like an unlikely call. It still feels like a bit of a bold prediction to sit there and say, yep, George Russell is going to out drive Lewis Hamilton across what, 23 races in a whole season.

We've seen Lewis Hamilton. We've seen how consistent he was. And you know, what the first, what, 25 laps of that race before the safety car came out. And also had George Russell in his pocket. It was quite comfortable. They were closed for a little fight for a couple laps, and then he pulled out of the DRS zone, and he was three seconds up the road. And I do think that if the safety car hadn't emerged,

I don't think those two will have been particularly close for the rest of the race. But Russell did a great job. If he continues to take advantage of these moments, if he continues to grow into the car and the team, I definitely think that he's not going to fall too far off the pace of Hamilton, And you never know. If things continue to side on his side as it does sometimes, he could walk away as the lead Mercedes driver for the season on points.

So we get to be seen. He took a very, very good job this time now. Harry, can you see Russell sustaining this for a whole year? I mean, yeah, I think today is probably his most convincing performance. And yeah, he was lucky with that safety car, which obviously put him in front of Hamilton. But I'd say his pace in the first thing, kind of there or thereabouts with Hamilton.

I think Hamilton starts to maybe pull away towards the end of it. But even in that second stint when he was in front of Hamilton, Hamilton wasn't exactly crawling all over him. So, yeah, I think, you know, he's obviously, this is only third race with the team, well, in fourth if you count, Sakeer. But third race with the team properly, and he's still learning. So I don't see why he couldn't continue this form for the year.

I'm not saying I'm not going to be like you bet, and say Hamilton's going to lose to him. but he's been pretty solid so far pretty solid i think probably his weakest performance was in was in barring quality and that was about that was about it and from that on and he's been kind of just solid in getting the most out of the car um so yeah i don't see any reason why it shouldn't continue to be honest yeah i mean i i would say that it's pretty it's been pretty well balanced thus far you look you're right barrain has by far been the worst of the three performances the star from George Russell.

That was his first race in a... Okay, his second race in a Mercedes. His first race of the season, his first full-time drive for Merck. So I think we can excuse him for that, just like we would for any other driver. His second race, obviously, Jeddah. He was excellent.

Hamilton was off the pace. And then Melbourne this weekend, I think Hamilton had a minor edge, but I don't think it was much. You know, Hamilton was keeping Russell at bay, very comfortably in that first stint. Likewise, Russell was keeping Hamilton at bay quite comfortably. He did obviously luck in with the safety car.

That will, again, luck will work both ways throughout this year. But I don't necessarily think it matters too much in terms of the position at this point. Yes, you know, Russell gained three points rather than lost three points. But I don't think that's too important. What's more important is pace because that's going to be the indicator for the rest of the year. and if he didn't take advantage of the safety car, I think Russell would have been within five seconds at Hamilton. I think he probably would have been inside three seconds of Hamilton.

I don't think he would have ever overtaken him on track. But the fact that he's that close to Hamilton this early in his Merck career, I think it's very encouraging. So I am counting today as his first podium. So well done, George, even if it's not technically. And he deserved it. I know he got the luck with the safety car, but it's not about the luck that you get,

it's about what you do with the luck that you get. You know, you can take advantage of as many safety cars as you like. If you don't then keep the guys behind you, it's all for nothing anyway. And he did appear very comfortable throughout that second stint. So I can see, you know, obviously my bold prediction preseason indicates what I think here. And I do think Russell can continue to take it to Lewis Hamilton.

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From a good weekend, third and fourth for Mercedes, we go to a not-so-good weekend and we look at Astor Martin because we've already referenced the Alex Albin point for Williams, which obviously does wonders for that team. but it does leave. Astor Martin is the only pointless team this season through three races. To attempt to recap what happened

this weekend. Sebastian Vessel broke down on Friday practice, got a fine for getting the scooter back. They both went out in FP3. It looked like neither car was going to get to qualifying. Strull does just about get to qualifying.

but then crashes into Latifi, which inadvertently gives Vettel a chance to qualify, but he doesn't get out of Q1, meaning both aren't out of Q1. Vettel retires not too long into the Grand Prix, and Lancholy gets a five-second penalty, which drops him out of the points. So I think it's fair to say

this wasn't the best weekend for Aston Martin overall. Yeah, it's been a tough start for that team, hasn't it? It's fair to say, and you know I think our favourite named person Mike Crack was pretty brutally honest after well after yesterday at least and I guess it will be again today that it's just not been it's not been a good weekend and and there's clearly something I don't know if it's wrong with the car but both drivers really struggled to keep it on the track um obviously as you mentioned been both crashing FP3 in battle again uh in the race today so yeah it's it's a it's a concerning one

I know they've said they've got almost a different car in the wind tunnel to what they're running on track now, but that's not going to arrive. Those upgrades aren't going to arrive for a little while. So yeah, it's not great considering that, you know, and not everyone was going to get these rule changes right, and obviously they have focused on them, and they, you know, stopped developing last year's car,

but clearly the focus hasn't been enough to draw them out of, well, to get them in the points, effectively. So yeah, it's clearly a tricky car to drive. And where we thought it was sort of Mercedes-related cards that were struggling, Mercedes and McLaren certainly have seemed to got on top of their problems in the past, you know, as races have gone on, whereas Aston Martin just don't seem to, don't seem to have. And I don't think it's even like a porpoising thing, is it? I mean, maybe they do have a bit of that, but it doesn't seem to be bouncing along. It just doesn't seem to have much grip, to be honest. It just seems to be a bit of a sketchy.

sketchy ride so um concerning one it's obviously a long season but how long do you give it before you you know give up on this year and start start next year so yeah it's a tricky one and you know if you think of Vettel is he going to want to stick around crashing into walls i don't know but we'll have to see but uh yeah tough situation for them that's for sure yeah um i mean the fact that i could list off about eight items as to why this weekend was bad. It's only three days that they're there driving. So it wasn't a good one whatsoever. And I think that was pretty clear anyway, but that Alex album point does just highlight it ever so slightly more. This hasn't happened. And I don't know about

you. I'm getting Toyota mid-2000s vibes at the moment of just a lot of promise and and so little delivery. And maybe they turn it around this year. Maybe they turn it around next year. I don't know on that. But at the moment, this just isn't working from all perspectives. It's never great when your two drivers apologize for what they've done in practice, only to then two days later, they then crash the cars on Saturday and Sunday.

It's not good. And ultimately, it's everyone within the 10. team that needs to look at themselves because the car isn't, you know, even if the drivers were performing fantastically, the car isn't there. But the point is, the drivers aren't performing great. Lance Stroll is making a lot of errors through the first few races of the season. And he, I would say he needs to step up, but surely there's a time limit on this where one day you've just got to turn around and say he isn't going to step up. And Sebastian Vettel, it's been a long time since he was an elite driver.

It's hard to say, but I think that's the truth. I think if you look at the two drivers here, Lanchdrell and Sebastian Vettel, and if you were to defend them as a driver pairing, you would use reference points of like a decade ago to try and make your point. If someone turns around and says, Sebastian Vettel's a great driver,

and you question them why, they will turn around and say, well, he won four world championships between 2010 and 2013. same with Lance Drol. If someone says Lanchdroll's a great driver and you were to question why, they would probably go back to that F3 season where he performed brilliantly well. But what have you done for me lately? Both of those events happened like seven, eight years ago now and you've got to step up. So yeah, the car isn't in the right position. The drivers aren't in the right position.

The team's floundering badly. And you're right, Harry, at some point, attention's going to have to turn to next year. I don't know when they make that decision. It seems a bit early at the moment, but if they have ambitions of fighting for the championship, we know that's not happening this year. And if that's your end goal, maybe you scrap it early. I don't know. But they need to think of something, put it that way. Sam, how do you view the Aston Martin situation?

I think you need to look at it more than just this weekend. I think I'm being nice in saying that because it was Gregful. It was one of the worst weekends they've had as an outfit overall as the full team. and the reason I say you need to look at as more than just this weekend is because I don't think these problems are situated or isolated just to this weekend. I think this is a systemic issue that they have started to experience. And cast your minds back years ago when Ashton Martin

were once racing point and before that, they were once forced India, and they were praised up and down the grid in and out of the community for being this plucky team with a tiny budget who always made the right choices. They knew where to be efficient. They knew where to excel and how to deliver results with the tiniest amount of resources. And they were brilliant at it. Yes, they were never going to be a championship contending team at that point.

But they greatly excelled at every area for what they were able to deliver with. If you gave someone five pounds and said, turn it into something spectacular, they would. You know, what some teams did with 50 quid, they were doing with five. And they got the same results out of it. and that was fantastic and tremendous. And alongside that, their plays in the driver market were always pretty strong, pretty solid. You know, you've got to remember the likes of Sergei Perez, who is now a red ball driver, drove for them, and did brilliantly well. Nika Holgerberg, a lot of people rate highly, was quite a big man in that area.

You know, several other... Oh, Gimberg. Thank you. I even paused, because I knew he was going to do it. You know, they were smart, they were savvy, they were clever, and it feels like this plucky little unit who, pulled together, they rolled their sleeves up and they made the most out of what they have, have become bloated and complacent and slow and almost afraid to react and make changes. And you think, you look at, right, Lawrence Stroll is coming and he's bought Asken Martin,

and I think it's a commercial unit as the car producer Asken Martin. Brilliant, right? It's a luxury market car, they need some turnaround, that makes total sense of investment. I get it. But as a Formula One team, they've suddenly got absolutely bucket loads of funds. And it's almost like they've gone, oh, we don't even know what to do with it. We're just spending money, and we're not getting anything out of it. It's like they're just spending money aimlessly in the hopes that more money means mole success, less problems.

And that isn't the case. And then Lawrence Stroll, of course, has an attachment to Lunks. It's his son. I understand that entirely. I feel that my father and I have a very, very good relationship, and I'd be a bit gutting if he'd chuck me in the bin the first time something went wrong, right? He's going to cling on to my relationship more than he would to some other person that he doesn't really know. And so I get that.

I understand that. But you'd argue we're what, four seasons in to Lance's F1 career, maybe five if I'm getting that wrong or right, I'm not sure. But Lance is, what, average at best, if even a bottom five F1 driver on this grid at the moment. If this was any other team for this long, would he really be sticking around? Would you really be debating keeping him in that seat without any issue?

No one brings it up at the start of each season. goes, Lance has got to perform this year, otherwise he's out of the drive. You know, Latifig, we're all saying it. You know, Albon, it got brought up. Jeoduan Yew, it got brought up immediately. You know, these things get brought up. They're big money signings. But because Lance is the son of Lawrence, no one really seems to go, get him out of the seat. He's not doing well. And then you look at the other side of the garage, Sebastian Vettel. There's someone who really loves Seb, there's someone who has always praised Seb and backed him. it's hard to do so at the moment.

The man has not turned out a great performance consistently in a long time. And Ben, your point of harking back to the last time that you can say, when was the last time that they really were making a name for themselves? All right, Ferrari, 17, 18, he did a good job. I think he lost it himself though those seasons, so not perfect. And then you're right. The four championships for Red Ball. A four-time world champion can only be seen as that four-time world champion for so long.

Kimmy Riking is early part of his career, right? right? One of the fastest we've ever seen. By the end of his career, I looked at him as a bothersome person on the track. I looked at him as frustrating, boring, waste of a seat. But yet, one point in his career, he was bloody incredible. And I feel the same is starting to happen with Seb at this point. He's just a name on the grid that is filling a seat. And this is where Aston Martin to start changing it up. You're going backwards. You're one of the worst cars, if not the worst car on the grid. And you used to be the team that managed to make the fourth or fifth or sometimes third best car on the grid

with a fraction of the funds. This is absolutely systemic. It comes from the base and you need to change something to make it better. It is not going to be a quick fix. The season's already down the drain for you and you need to look at the absolute blueprints

for the team to make some changes. It's a shocker. It is a shocker. You've got the resource, put them into practice properly because this is not working for you. It's not just Australia this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised

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we were complaining about there being four DRS zones this weekend, they decided, you know what, those late breaking guys, they might be on to something. So they got rid of one. us. Thank you. That is an entirely factual recount of events. Don't question me. So what did you make

of the track changes, Sam? Do you think they worked? Yes, I do. But I also think the regulations worked. And I feel like if they had made those changes, but we'd had last year's regulations, the race would have been a much more dull one.

I feel like the Red Bull or the Ferrari, whoever was on top technically of this year, would have had the same dominant performance, but we wouldn't have had the infield battling between the Hamilton and Perez moment. We wouldn't have had the threat of the staffing in behind. We wouldn't have had that midfield train that looked like at any moment

it could have imploding into absolute chaos. And yeah, I think the corner widening was more important than the DRS zones that were provided, because we actually have the same amount of DRS zones as we did previously, and I feel like we probably have the same amount of moves into those DRS breaking corners that we had previously.

But what was great is, again, the regulation changes allowed for those cars can run so close together that there was always a chance of a DRS pass, or there was always a chance of a late-breaking maneuver,

which of course we love here. But whereas last time, I feel like you make that move in the DRS, you make it stick, and you're gone, two three seconds up the road and you're stacking the dirty air. Whereas here, we had a race

of cars following, half a second behind, and it was exciting, it was interesting. You didn't know who was going to come out where, and it meant that the likes of album could do the no-stop 5D strategy,

and he came out in 10th because it worked because these guys are all battling so much. It's not dirty air-related. It's not the tyres are being destroyed by overheating because of those reasons. And it's fun. So yes, the Oz changes worked, but I don't think they were the only, you know, ingredient in the recipe that made this a good race. I think it was kind of 10% and the new regulations actually made up the 90%. But I appreciated them. I'm glad they happened and I do think they are a positive change that is much needed. To your point there, Sam, I'm with you, and it's reminded me of a point in the race

where, and I can't quite remember who it was, someone in, I think, seventh was highlighted on the timing tower on the left, and so was someone in 14th. And I couldn't work out why. I was like, why are they, you know, they're like six positions apart or seven positions apart. They're both highlighted,

but do they have anything to do? one another before I actually worked out that no that's the start of the battle and the end of the battle in that row of cars it was going on that much in the midfield to the point where I was confused so if I was confused by it okay it doesn't take too much but you know that kind of proves that it must be working I did like the changes overall and yeah I it's still not one of my favourites I can't lie but this was a big step in the right direction I mean I was, as we already know, I was incredibly wrong with my predictions this weekend from a bold prediction and poll one two three perspective, but I was right about one thing in the preview

podcast. And that was that we would get some really interesting situations going into that fast chicane on the back straight because we saw signs and we saw Magnuson, attempt moves, try moves, and it didn't work out for them. There was a high risk element to trying a move into that chicane. We also saw that it worked well with Sergio Perez. So, you know, I was really happy with how that corner turned out with the removal of

the chicane previously, a couple of corners back. As far as the rest of it goes, I am glad that they only went with three DRS zones in the end. And generally yes, I think you're right. It was not necessarily just a win for the Melbourne track. I think it was a pretty

good race overall. It was a win for the regulations. It was a step in the right direction in that last year, you know, and not just last year, other years previous, Bahrain has always produced a bit of a belter. Jedder, whilst we definitely have concerns about its safety, was pretty exciting last year. Melbourne was the first true test of the regulations.

It was the first one where we've had a few dull races here in the last 10 years. Can the regulations help that along? Now, there were the track elements as well, but I think the answer was a resounding yes. So I was happy with how the weekend went in that respect. Harry, from your side? Yeah, I mean, you're both spot on on that one. I think if we'd had the 2021 cars around this track,

we've had a different race still. And it might have been more exciting than we'd had previously, but I still don't think would have been as good as the one we got today. So track changes were good. I think, yeah, we obviously talked about the DRS zones, but it didn't need it in the end because there, There weren't loads of moves going to there, but the ones that were going on were, like, pretty bold and exciting moves. And I think if there'd been DRS on that straight, it would just been boring, because they'd just been flying past each other every lap.

So, yeah, but in general, yeah, I think the track changes definitely an improvement. But, yeah, like you say, I don't think that it's, you know, the 100% cause of what of the race we got today. I think the new regs have definitely helped in that sense too so it's only a good thing change the track a bit different regs and you get a better race I think we can walk away from that one that fairly satisfied I think

indeed and we'll have to see if it works well for the next race which is Imala yeah we return to Imola in a couple of weeks time race sprint race sprint it's a sprit get in a big get in a big get in a big get in the bin. Man.

Right. Well, I've got about a week to prepare a rant on that one, so look forward to that, folks. We do have an off week in between. So we'll be back midweek for a regular podcast, and then we'll be back for a preview and a review the week after of the Imala Grand Prix. Before we go, Harry, you did put a poll in the Discord to say should Sam

his bold prediction, his correct bold prediction be removed or not, should it be disqualified and as much as much as you really do take them Mick out of the Discord Sam for whatever reason they seem to like you because they've said it shouldn't be disqualified I'm doing my smug face right now thank you Discord you are a wonderful group of people

this isn't a democracy so doesn't happen. Yeah, sorry about that. It counts. Get in the Bing. You're a bunch of morons. I appreciate all the votes on that. But yes, it was no

that had a resounding win. And to be fair, one of the yeses was a very honest MLG who said he voted for both. So fair play. Oh, it's pretty much unangamous thing, really, wasn't it?

There we go. Unanimously correct is Sam. We love that. Well, more ball predictions in a couple of weeks' time. But for now, Sam, if you wouldn't mind, getting us out of here. Oh, I can't believe it's another two-week break for another race,

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