The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2022 Austrian GP Review

Episode Date: July 10, 2022

The LB boys review a drama-filled Austrian GP from the Red Bull Ring! Sam, Ben and Harry give their verdit on the race, review their bold predictions and name their best and worst driver of the day. ...JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! EMAIL us: latebraking96@gmail.com Q&A SPECIAL link: https://bit.ly/3uCHqTM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to tune in for new episodes every Wednesday and Grand Prix Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking, reviewing today the Austrian Grand Prix, an Austrian Grand Prix that saw Charles LeCler claim his first win, since the Australian Grand Prix, his third win of the season, and Ferrari getting back-to-back wins after Sines's win at Silverstone,
Starting point is 00:00:51 maybe Ferrari back in the championship hunt. That's going to be something we're discussing on today's review episode, a lot more to discuss as well. It was a busy weekend for the FIA, so you know there's going to be some points made on this podcast. But before we get into any of that, most importantly, Sam, it's hot, in it? Oh, yeah, it is hot.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I was evening in a bloody outdoor swimming pool earlier and I just thought maybe we just did the podcast from here. Maybe I'll get all the people swimming to join in. They'll love it. No idea what's going on, but they'll love it. Ridiculous, really. Harry, you've decided to take a little poodle down to the motherland of Cornwall where Benjamin is.
Starting point is 00:01:33 You doing all right down there? Not too hot for you. It's roasting for Cornwall folks. It's very hot. I even went in the sea yesterday, the English sea, which is famously never, never worn, but it was actually fine. So as evidence as to how hot it is here, and I'm sure there are people across Le Big Wet, to quote Bungers,
Starting point is 00:01:56 Le Big Wet, that, you know, have hotter days, but we don't do hot as Brits. It's quite hot here, it's quite hot. Famously, Big Shack once. said, Babes take off your jacket and he said, mangs, that's not hot. He never takes up his jacket.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It's a great start. It's a great start. The heat is going to get to us, I'm pretty sure, and this will descend into madness. I am a little bit disappointed, Sam, that you didn't stick around in the pool to do this episode because I'm pretty certain driver of the day would have gone to swim Clark. And that was going to do the drums.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm what laughing. That's it. That's it. Begs off the podcast. It's been fun. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It's really bad. Sam, you're going to test whether me and Harry were paying any attention. Yeah, it's the, Yee-ha, Sammy will blammy's race day takeaways. Yeah. And I'm hosting it from the speakeasy. Pooh, boo-boo. Folks, this is the easiest quiz you'll ever take part of.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's the point. We're basically going to do a quiz that recaps the key and some of the silly events that happened during the Grand Prix. I get to choose all the questions, so a long of the time, the events don't really matter that they revolve around, but I think they were worth talking about. So we have today 12 questions. We had eight last time.
Starting point is 00:03:36 We got 12 this time. Two of them also technically come from the sprint race. so because we did have a sprint race and Harry as it is actually your birthday tomorrow at time of recording this again happy birthday for tomorrow and everyone say happy birthday Harry I think you can go first please could you pick a number between 1 and 12
Starting point is 00:03:59 number one please number one well this is a sprint race question balls what driver still had their tyre blankets on when the formation lap began gang. Magi. Magi, Alonzo. Car, magic!
Starting point is 00:04:15 Correct. It was, I need to write down how many of your scoring. Where's my peng? There it is. Harry has scored. One, well done. Ben, what number do you want? Number 10.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Are you... Number 10? That's my favourite number from one that cares. Who, in the actual Grand Prix, made the most overtakes. Um, uh, Alonso made up 10 places. I'll go with him. Magic is somehow the answer to both the questions that we've had. They're all the answers are Lando, because that will be the best quiz ever.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Turns out this is just the Alonzo quiz. It's one or, Harry, please pick a number. It could be any number between two and 12, but isn't one or ten. I mean, one isn't it in that rank anyway, but go for it. Well, Ben's ruined the chronology. so I go for three, please. Three! Okay. Who started the main Grand Prix from the Pit Lane and why?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Bottas did, and they changed his rear wing, I think. Did they? Changed this real wing? I thought it was for a new power unit, but you know what? It might be right, and I haven't done my research properly. So I'm going to say, you're correct for getting Bottas, and we'll ignore the second part.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Oh, good. Bang. I'll check that. I'll check that. Number nine. Number nine. Okay. On lap 40, Pierre Ghazly decided to hit someone off the track.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Who was it? Seby. Correct. It was Sabie. Aski and Vettel, who quite frankly looks more and more done with Formula One at every corner on a racetrack. To all is the score. Well done. Harry, on to you, please.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Number six, please. Number six. Hold on. I just need to keep count of what ones we've done. Number six is, who was the first driver to receive a penalty for track limits, which, of course, were a menace this Grand Prix. Oh. Oh, I don't know who was first because a lot of people. Was it?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Gazley? Gazzley boy. It was Gathly boy. That is correct. Pierre Gazzley was the first to pick up a penalty for track limits. There were other penalties for other reasons, but for track limits, it was Gazzley boy. Holskia sausage is, folks, because we are not getting them out for that. Well done.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Three, two. Benjamin, over to you, please. Number 12. Number 12, the final question. After Sightness's retirement, how many mechanical failures have Ferrari now had for this season? Too many.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean, correct, but not perfectly correct. I don't know, about five. Oh, he's won off, folks. It was four. I'm taking into account next race. I'm taking into account next race. in that case
Starting point is 00:07:45 Correct Well done Harry Leagues 3-2 It's your turn again Harry If you'd like to know what numbers You've got left Let me know if not
Starting point is 00:07:54 Take a guess Yeah I would like to know which numbers Please Sure thing You can choose from Number 2 Number 4
Starting point is 00:08:02 Number 5 Number 7 Number 8 Or number 11 So many left I go for number 2 Please Number 2
Starting point is 00:08:11 Big Fat Pooh Okay, dokey. The question here is, in the sprint race, who came together during turn one on lap one? Oh, it was Ghazly Boy again, because he was up in the air.
Starting point is 00:08:28 The other one was Hamilton, but was there a third car? I'll accept the two answers there, my friend, because the third car was kind of just about. But you are right with Ghazley Boy, and Luis Amel. Tang. It was those two.
Starting point is 00:08:45 The score goes to four to. Benjamin, you can choose from number three, number four, number five, number seven, or finally eight or eleven. We're getting there. I think we might have done three. Number four. We have done three. I've just written out of one place.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I've done three, didn't we? Yes. I'll take number three. See if I can get that one right. Good. Right. Number four. In the real race, who collided on lap one? Perez and George Russell. Who hit who? We'll be a discussion later on.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Who knows? I haven't thought about later on in the podcast. That's not my job. Well done. You're correct. It was those two. It really is. Harry, you've got five, seven, eight or eleven? seven please what strategy plan was Carlos Sikes on oh for goodness sake Ferrari wasn't he on plan E
Starting point is 00:09:54 plan E for excuse me sir engine failure what is going on here that is correct it was plan E Benjamin over to you sir you have got left five eight
Starting point is 00:10:11 eleven for the record I am writing these down so I know exactly what's left but I'm not going to interrupt Sam when he's doing that because it's too funny number 11 I'm going to do this on paper next time and not on my phone where I can easily mark what's going on number 11 is how did Martin describe Carlos Sykes' car catching a light during his DNF?
Starting point is 00:10:42 I don't remember what he said it doesn't look good I was paraphrasing. It was like a... It was like a hand grenade going off, is the words you're used. There you go. Oh, don't let me mark that down because Ben is going apparently check up on me
Starting point is 00:11:06 that I haven't done all the answers. That's done now as well. Fair do. Well, if you say the same question again, I think we'll find out. Right. By my calculations, Harry, you can now choose from five or eight. Eight, please.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Oh, you'll enjoy this one because we've had previous conversations, but you'll enjoy that. What did Fangando Aluxo do as he passed, Kuki Sangoda? He gave him a stern telling off, which is fantastic. And what was the physical action he implied, please? Oh, he waved his, he was a finger at him as if to say, No, no, no, no. Yes, he gave him a good finger waggle. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Fangando, just doing Fangando things, heavily breaking to a corner while telling off his youngsters around him. That means, Ben, you get the final question, which is question five. Am I correcting that, Ben? Have I done the long? Number five, please? Yes. Thank you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I'm glad you did the joke. Who was awarded a penalty for a collision on lap. one? It was George Russell. Have you already had that question? No, the other question was he was involved. So, you know, basically a 50-50 on that. And I'm not Sam, so I'm not right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Thank God it wasn't me having to do it. Well, yeah-ha. That was Sammy Woblammy's race day takeaways. Now let the speak easy. Yee-ha. Harry Wiggs six points to four. Pow-pow. Good. I'm going to run that quiz because it is stupid.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Ben, are you happy about this feature that we've added to the podcast? We've done over 200 episodes. It might be the worst thing we've ever done. Why are you so mean to me? Oh. No. I mean, it could be. We hang a game.
Starting point is 00:13:18 called Phil in the blank and the theme song Seno's Phil. I mean, that was pretty bad. Yeah, and then we did a survey said, do you like, which games do you like and no one liked Phil in the blank? So sorry, that's gone.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Ever again. Don't do it anymore. Everyone again, Phil. Oh, Ben, what's happening on the podcast? Save us, please. Let's review what happened in Austria. Because Ferrari have got to be happy in one respect.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Charles LeClair taking victory for the first time in what seems like a decade. It actually hasn't in that long, but given the run that Vestappen's been on and what's happened with Synes last week, it feels like it's been a while. He took victory. It looked like it was going to be a one-two for a while until Sines' engine decided. Nah, I'd enough of that. So what did you make of it, Sam? Do you think that Ferrari could well be backing the
Starting point is 00:14:07 championship hunt, both from a driver's championship perspective with LeCler, but also from the constructors' championship as well? Well, with the way that Ferrari are going at the moment, it feels like they can only wing in circuits that start AUS. So, you know, they've done Australia, they've done Austria, and obviously the next one that comes in that section is Austin in Texas. So we won't see another Ferrari victory until the back end of the seeding, it feels like. Ferrari desperately needed this. In terms of the championship hopes, championship drive,
Starting point is 00:14:38 any chance of securing either the drivers, the constructors or both, they have to be beating the Stappen every single race, pretty much, with at least one of their drivers. They were once again handing a gift. Sergio Perez came into contact, of course, with George Russell, sustained terminal damage, couldn't carry on running. They managed to scamper away with that. And at that point, once again, we've got two Ferraris against one Red Bull, which essentially happened at Silverstone. Of course, both Red Bulls actually finished there, but they were struggling.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So you think, okay, the same thing's happening again here. Will Ferrari manage to ruin this one for themselves with bad strategy calls or incompetence of Team Orgues over the radio or any number of ridiculous. things. But Carlos Sides, as Angerian manager, do it himself anyway. Angus, it blew up. That's fun. So, Charlotte has gained on Max Verstappen. That's positive. And it was key that they win here. It's key that they win every single week from here and out. But Ferrari, you can't have this happen every single week that you've got a race win up for grabs in both occasions where you've won. Of course, back-to-back victories for Ferrari, it has been so difficult. So much agony and stress and pain has gone into both of your victories.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You need to sort out the reliability. You need to work out what's going on inside the team and make sure that your team organ is sorting out because it looked like at one point, Carlos scientist Charlotte Clare were going to have it all to themselves, fighting behind the stopping at the start of the racing. It was going to be another mess again, and then the Claire pulled away.
Starting point is 00:16:06 The short answer to this explanation is, Ferrari-blooding Evis. They had to get the points done. They had to get the wing, and I'm sure every Ferrari fan was absolutely, bricking it when LeCleur started saying that he's got throttle issues with a couple of laps to go. But you've got to get across the line. And maybe this will allow a little bit of relief, a little bit of calm, a little bit of euphoria, perhaps even for Charles Lecler, as I know that
Starting point is 00:16:27 they can beat Max Verstappen again. It can happen on pace. They can triumph over Red Bull. Ferrarian, I get, let's see if they can bring it again in two weeks time when we go to France. Harry, what did you make of Ferrari's performance out there today and can it propel them back into both championships? They did a good job with trying to balls it up again, so congrats on that one Ferrari. But look, it was encouraging before
Starting point is 00:16:56 Sightens obviously blew up. A very encouraging race for them. And I know we've already made fun of the plan E, but to be honest, they were fairly convinced your on strategy today as well. They just seemed to, I think it helped, obviously, their tie degradation was better than Red Bulls. And obviously, Red Bulls were trying to do something different.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I did think at one stage, why wouldn't you, you've got both cars against one? Why would you not split the strategies? They didn't. And well, it didn't matter in the end anyway. But anyway, an encouraging day. But as Sam says, they need both of these cars there. And I think signs would have overtaken Vestappen and taken more points out of him, which is what they would have needed.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And with Perez not finishing, it would have held them in the Constructors' Championship too. But, yeah, certainly the most convincing performance from Ferrari since Austria. which seems when they said it's his first win since LaCleur's first win since Australia, that seems mad. That was ages ago. It was so long ago. So yeah, they desperately needed this, as we alluded to it in the preview. And they just about delivered.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And as I say, they almost completely balls it up. They only half did in the end. But yeah, that's encouraging form as we move into what is now the second half of the season. we made it folks, we're halfway there. Yeah, I think there might well be a check in the post for Mr. George Russell because in terms of the Constructors' Championship, that has helped them out a great deal to make up that gap somewhat. But this was a massively encouraging result,
Starting point is 00:18:32 but a massively needed result as well. Not to downplay what Carlos Sines and the team were able to do at Silverstone, but this was a different type of victory because whilst Carlos Sines did a good job in Secure, during that win later in the Grand Prix, it wasn't a head-to-head win against Red Bull. And the likelihood is what happened to Vastappan at Silverstone is probably not going to happen too many more times throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And these sorts of head-to-head scenarios that we saw out there today, Austria are going to be far more common. And they went up against them and they won in a straight fight. And as you've already alluded to, Harry, the Australian Grand Prix. That's the last time that happened. Now, you could say that Vestappen retired from that race, which is true. but it was head to head up until that point
Starting point is 00:19:16 and Red Bull couldn't live with Ferrari. But that is a long time ago and this is the first time since then that Ferrari versus Red Bull out on track and it has been a Ferrari victory, but a dominant Ferrari victory as well. It became pretty apparent early on
Starting point is 00:19:30 that Red Bull didn't have the pace to match the Ferraris out there. It does make you question what Ferrari were doing in the sprint race yesterday. Perhaps it was the conditions. We know Saturday and Sunday They were a lot different in terms of what the weather was doing. But yeah, it was a bit bizarre how just tables were turned day to day there.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But Charlotte Clare was incredibly impressive. I thought early on, he could have done a slightly better job of getting past Vastappen quicker. I think he committed himself to a few half attempts, a few lockups that didn't quite pay off. I think he learned after a few laps that it was just better to go for that one move down into turn four. obviously it worked very well. But yeah, fair play to Ferrari. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but well done to the Ferrari strategy team.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Unbelievable things. Mightily impressed. And I've been the first person not only on this podcast, but indeed the world, to go on Ferrari strategy and give them what for, but they deserve the credit today. Obviously, the result doesn't reflect what a good job they did, but we've been saying all week that in a two-on-one scenario,
Starting point is 00:20:46 Ferrari needs to seize the advantage, need to split the strategies. But today was not the time to split the strategy, because Ferrari had such an advantage, they could go with the same strategy for both drivers and claim the one-two. And if it weren't for the engine blowing up, that's exactly what would have happened. I've got no doubt that signs would have made it past Maxx for Stappen, and it would have been a one-two finish.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So they could have split the strategy here. Instead, they went for exactly the same because they had that advantage. They were both on the optimal strategy. The staff had pitted way too early. And unfortunately, the result doesn't reflect it. But we shouldn't take away from what a great job the strategic team did. It's a long way from panic stations for Red Bull. They've had the advantage of more races than Ferrari have had so far this year.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But whilst Silverstone was a great result, this was a great performance and a great result. So I would take more encouragement from this weekend than from last weekend at Silverstone. We're going to review our bold predictions, our driver of the day and worst driver of the day, straight after this. Should we take a look at our bold predictions, first of all, because they weren't very well as they always do. Why? Why? So, you think we need to.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Sam, you said that Vestappen was going to do a clean sweep. He got poll on Friday. He won on Saturday. He got the fastest lap. Yeah. There was one last part that I can't quite remember. Was it for him to win the race? Yeah, well, I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:22:19 All signs were pointing to Sam actually being right for once. And he just went, I've heard that. I've heard what you said there. And you know what? I'm not going to bother. And so he just clearly backed off. He did it for me. He just spite me.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I can't believe. I thought, here we go. This is a shoeing now. First cut of laps of the race. I thought, I'm going to get it right. I'm going to get it right. And I didn't get it right again. And I'm hurt as much every single time.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, I'm not going to lie, I'm hurt about mine as well. I said that Fernando Alonzo was going to have some sort of bust up with the stewards. And it was the perfect weekend for it because the stewards were giving out penalties like their candy at Halloween. And it still didn't work. Fernando Alonzo just actually, no, I'm claiming Yuki Sanoda was a steward. I was right. Go to bed there. Go to go back.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yuki Sonoda was steward all weekend, I promise you. He told him off. Yeah. So despite the fact that this was definitely the weekend to have a bust up with the stewards, Fernando Alonzo was about the only driver that didn't get involved with them. And Harry, you said that eight teams would be in the top ten, which would be correct if you'd take away two of them. So...
Starting point is 00:23:34 So close. Let me just top this up a second. Sam, zero plus spin, zero plus. Harry zero plus zero plus zero none right this week none right woohoo ah
Starting point is 00:23:50 once again well this was a this was a shocker I'm sure we'll be back to four next time out for the French Grand Prix can be sure of that should we go on to driver of the day
Starting point is 00:24:02 before we embarrass ourselves further who have you got Harry fine there's a few options out there but I'm going to be true fanboy I'm going to give it to the new named Angry Mick
Starting point is 00:24:16 who Look, I just want to point I want to point this one out If anyone has sort of watched Mick Schumacher's junior career He only starts being good A year and a half into whatever category is in
Starting point is 00:24:31 And we are at that point now I'm just saying I'm just going to point that one out I don't want to preempt a string about races now for him But just saying The last two have been very good But this weekend I think he's been the quicker of the two really of the two hats
Starting point is 00:24:47 obviously they didn't let him pass yesterday but he got the move done today and pulled away from KMAG and with some lovely moves and there was a you know even the strategy sort of did him over slightly because he ended up coming back out after that first stop behind both McLaren's
Starting point is 00:25:03 and lost out to do that to Russell as well I can't quite remember but anyway he came out behind a few cars and he just overtook them and then over to his teammates so yeah I'm going to go Mick Schumacher, but there were some lovely little drives out there today. Yeah, I think that's a good shout, Mick Schumacher, and we'll discuss that one most likely on the midweek podcast, just the overall hast dynamic as it is right now.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Other contenders for me, Fernando Alonzo, you know, towards the back of the grid, into the point. Magic. And Lewis Hamilton at a pretty faultless race. I know he had a couple of errors early on, but after he stopped that, he was, he was, He was pretty good, wouldn't he? But I am going to take the boring answer, I guess. I'm going to go with God LeClerre on this one.
Starting point is 00:25:50 As you all know, I did have my motivational techniques in the midweek by saying that he can't race at Austria. We know that he is a friend of the podcast and he does listen along every week. So you would have heard that, which would have motivated him, of course, to do well and as worked. So you are very welcome, Sharpe. You are driver of the day. Have you got Sam? Um, you kind of said the ones that I was going to choose. And I don't really like to repeat if I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Charlotte Claire was fantastic. He put in a fantastic performance. It was great to see him really go for it. And Quick Mick is so good that Quick Mick is now a thing. I love angry Quick Mick. More of that. Every race, please. I am going to give it to Lewis Hamilton then, I think, to vary up to keep things fresh.
Starting point is 00:26:39 He picked his way through the crowd very, very well. even when Mick got back past him, there was no panic, there was no silliness, he kept his composure, you know, he put the moves together exactly how he needed to, and he was by far, far, farcing everyone else in the rest of that midfield pack. And I think it's very clear now that Mercedes have taken that step on from the rest of the midfield, and they are clearly their own third best car. He delivered exactly what Mercedes needed him to do when Mercedes are struggling, and other people had issues around him. He picked up that podium, and that's what he does. So, Louis Cameron. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Worst driver of the day. Who have you got, Harry? Well, I was going to pick out Ghazly boy out for this one, mainly because I think it might have actually Charlotte-A-Clair driving that car because I just didn't know what the width of his car was.
Starting point is 00:27:34 But then I realized that despite getting the first track limits penalty, as already alluded to in that quiz at the start, and then the five-second penalty for taking out Vettel. His teammates still finish behind him. So it's going to have to go to Yuki Sonoda. Because come on, Yuki.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Hall of Famer, you've been having such a good year so far, apart from these last three races, where they've been pretty bad. So, Yuki's sonoded for me. Also, did anyone see when Latifi didn't finish? Yes, I did show it on the telly. When did that happen? He got damage.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He said that he was... Yeah, he said he was about three seconds a lap, slowing everyone, which is going to a real difference. most races. And then they said it's not safe to continue, so you've got to come in. Sorry, Nicholas, mate.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I didn't pay attention to that bit. So, don't mind. I should have put that in the quiz? I wouldn't have got it right. I'd have taken the win. Control C, control V. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:33 what Harry said. Like you mentioned, Gazley had an absolutely disastrous race, and he was the best out for Tauri, so he's got to go to Yuki Sonoma. Who have you got some? I'm trying really hard to think of something else because I, there must have been a problem with this car.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Sengoga's not that bad, although they have announced publicly that he's got a new therapist, which I think is bang out of order. They discussed that so publicly and maybe it hasn't worked or kicked in. But how do you finish behind your teammate after he picked up everyone's penalties, took off the rest of the grid, and then decided that he was just not going to bother driving the trap properly? I don't know. So I guess, yeah, maybe it does have to be Yuki-Singoda, but you can tell I'm quite unsure, as I go through life generally, but mostly on this question, I can agree with you. I think it's Yuki-Sin-Oda.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I mean, behind the scenes, Sam thinks it's Daniel Ricardo, but, you know, get points. I haven't said anything. Moment of the race, and then we'll go on to some Discord submissions for Driver of the Day. What have you got for this one, Harry? Um, there was, I can't remember which the lap was a great little five-way scrap, which I'm going to mention because it was, uh, amazing little, little battle there. It had Mick Schumacher, it had Magnuson. It had Alonzo Joe in it. But I'm not going to go for that. I'm going to go for, we've already discussed it, the finger wag from Fernando Alonzo because he's overtaking a car and he's breaking into a heavy braking zone. And he's telling off another driver. Just sensational stuff. So it's got to be that one for me. me. That one is a strong contender and I actually wrote two down because I felt you might choose that one so I've wanted to give something else instead. As much as I have complimented the Ferrari
Starting point is 00:30:31 strategic team and they do deserve it. But honestly, plan E is is utterly hilarious. I just love it when they come out with stuff like this. I like to think that before the race they have like a whiteboard in their pits and they have like the whole alphabet listed out with instructions next to each one. I'd like to think that's the case, but Plan E, that made me chuckle,
Starting point is 00:30:56 not going to lie. Sam. I am going to go for the points that you brought up were fantastic. The five-way fight absolutely wowed me. I was in awe of that brilliant. The fact that one came together, it was all fantastic. But I'm going to go for what sounds like a slightly darker choice, but I think there are
Starting point is 00:31:13 some lighthearted moments to take from it. It's when Carlos Sites's car had caught a light and was off track. Two parts. The absolute hero of a steward who decides to try and run out and try and plug a cheese wedge or a doorstop under the tire and then falls over his own doorstop while it didn't work properly while the car is burning. And Martin Brunden in the English comicry team who goes, quick, get the extinguisher. Otherwise that really got to help the cost cap. Like, not the driver that could potentially be on fire. Not the car rolling backwards on fire towards the rest of the grid, or the steward that's just falling over next to the car on fire.
Starting point is 00:31:53 No, no, no, no, no, no, the cost cap. I thought that was all in that really quite a scary moment where something bad looking happened, glad nothing did. A lot of hilarities had appeared. So for me, moment of the race. Let's have a listen to some of your driver of the day, whether you agree with our submissions, Lecler, Hamilton, Schumacher, getting R-1s. Will you agree? We'll go to Cali, first of all.
Starting point is 00:32:19 What's going on, guys? Coming back at you live from across the pond. Harry, I hope you had a wonderful day. Ben, I got you some Rayband prescriptions coming for you. And Sam, I don't even want to hear it. All right? You're still in the bin in my books. Fuck off, mate. Ricardo, yeah. Drive off, right? Drive with the day, we're going to go with Charles Leclair after a great performance. I thought he was going to not make it after that throttle failure, but he held on. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Worst driver of the day, I hate to say, because my girlfriend's probably going to hit me. But Czechos, that first lap incident, man, you could have avoided that, and it sucks, but you ruined your race.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Love you guys. Oh, that is controversial. I feel like we're going to get some rather angry Czechos fans responding to that one. Yes. Yeah, we'll discuss that one a little bit. later on, see if any of us agree with what Callie said there. But thank you for the sunglasses. It's going to look forward to those. Let's move on to Hechti. Driver of the day, McHumacher, worst driver of the day, put your sausages back
Starting point is 00:33:28 in for Gasly. How's the sausages, boys? Sausages in for Gasly. Absolute plot twist. Let's go to Ninya next. Hey guys, this is Ninya. I thought I'd give my best and worst drivers of the day for the Austrian Grand Prix. Really enjoyed the Grand Prix. Really nice to see our boy chuckles le cluckles back on the top step of the podium. But best driver of the day for me has to be Mick Schumacher, who seems to have flipped the switch since Silverston.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Dominant performance against KMAG, I would say. Yeah, aggressive, fast, kept it clean. I worried who was going to get clattered off by stroll once or twice, but no, great race from him. My worst driver of the day, sadly, as a Ghazley fanboy, I have to say it would be Pierre Gazley. I'll have to retract my sausage for him
Starting point is 00:34:21 for this one. He was just, yeah, not good. So, sad about that. But there we are. Thank you very much. Oh, I tell you what, this podcast is such a load of old jabui in it. Like, it is an absolute...
Starting point is 00:34:36 Shuckles, le cluckles. Jibui? Stupid. That's a new merch idea. Well, very much is. Let's go to Norm from Texas. Yeeha. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Norm from Texas here. Figured I'd hand out my drivers of the day and worst driver of the day. Drivers of the day goes to Charles, where I'm going, I don't need pedals, LeClerc. And Mick, now I'm angry Schumacher. Drivers of the day. Worst driver of the day Hands down Has to go to Pierre
Starting point is 00:35:15 I'm now the villain Sausage Gazzley Also I guess Oprah was handing out penalties all over the track Anyway Love y'all Yeha
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeha I hate you guys so much It's mutual It really is Let's go to sea dog. All right, boys, it's time for Driver of the Day. This is Colin here from Canada, and you may be asking yourself,
Starting point is 00:35:49 is he going to give Driver the Day to God McClare? Is he going to give it to Louis Hamilton as he continues his return to the top? No. This one goes out to our boy, Mick Schumacher, coming in six, big finish, big finish for the boy. He's doing it, he's getting there. Driver of the Day, Mick Schumacher.
Starting point is 00:36:08 You heard you here first. I think because I said it first Oh Got him He can't control that Let's go to Leila Y'all My heart cannot take this kind of stuff anymore
Starting point is 00:36:29 My driver of the day Is definitely Charles Leclair And my worst driver of the day Is Fernando Alonzo Because the dude is just a menace Unsure Eiff so large You know
Starting point is 00:36:49 Whenever I hear The word Yarl It's not an English term at all For those of you That's seen the American office The US office
Starting point is 00:36:57 You know when Kevin Put on like a big cowboy hat And he just goes Yall Every time Oh Good Good office reference
Starting point is 00:37:10 We have one more submission If you've been listening To the podcast For about a month or so you would have heard Liv Laf Latifie give out a driver of the day, worst driver of the day.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And he's done it again. I won't intro it any further. My driver's on the day. It's gone on all the flipping pigeons. It's us. Can't say all the race will be because I recorded this on Friday, but I know I've got my
Starting point is 00:38:06 Don't tell me about George You don't care how many five picks Leaked about half a seven Single-handedly is better than anything We have ever created And actually better than actual songs On the radio Ridiculously good
Starting point is 00:38:50 And I think I love you I'd loss for words I don't know what to say I just so captured I just wish people could have seen us dancing along to that, as a sight to behold. You're probably going to need a minute or two to get over that, ladies and gents. But we'll be back with some more review action straight after this.
Starting point is 00:39:19 The FIA. Where to start with you, Frederick, Ian Anderson. Some consistency issues possibly this weekend. We saw five second penalties handed out in the race like they were cookies. So, Sam, what did you make of the... the FIA's handling of the race weekend as a whole? You know what? First part,
Starting point is 00:39:44 I actually am appreciative of Frederick Ian Anderson. That's the FIA for those who are ever confused why we call them Frederick Ian and Anderson. I like that they committed to giving out some penalties. I think the method of warning, warning, warning, black and white flag, yellow submarine, fly back to the Moog, slap on the risk, letter of frustration five second penalty is a bit daft.
Starting point is 00:40:10 But they stuck to it and they policed every corner, every track limit, every white lying and apart from the Perez moment in qualifying, which we'll get on to in a minute, they were very consistent with that. Now, there were also penalties giving out for collisions and this is where it gets a little bit frustrating, a little bit confusing. obviously, take your mind back to Silverstone folks, where drivers were muscled off the track on several occasions by several different drivers. You know, Lecler clattered into Perez. Perez rang Lecler off the track after cutting the corner. So again, avoiding track limits. And Vastappen twice
Starting point is 00:40:50 muscled Schumacher off the track. Now, luckily for them at that time, Silverstein has tarmac run off in those areas, so you can carry on. Austria does not really have that. So when Pierre Casley takes out Sergei Perez when George Russell takes out oh sorry, George Russell takes up Churchill, hang on a second. Hang on. And Pierre Gasley takes out
Starting point is 00:41:11 Vessel. Then then they suddenly chuck out penalties. I think Alba also got the same. I picked up my microphone. I'm like a radio DJ. What are you doing? I don't know. I'm just coming on to bend over a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:25 You know, obviously, I'm holding up the microphone for once. You know what? It was good to see the consistency because Albuang obviously had the same connection with Hamilton a little while ago a few years ago and Hamilton was penalised and I admire the fact that driver on the outside gets contact with the driver of the inside, the driver of the inside is the one at fault.
Starting point is 00:41:43 They applied the same law throughout the weekend. The track limits thing was confusing because Sergio Peroti went outside track limits in Q2, managed to still get through to Q3 and their method was going, delete every lap time that he's ever done and make him just start in P-13. In human history. in human history. So I appreciate that they've actually gone out and applied penalties and they've stuck to their word. But there is definitely work to be done, especially when it comes to wheel-to-wheel contact
Starting point is 00:42:13 where a driver either muscled outside of trap limits or taking off. It still isn't clear enough, I don't think. There's still a lot of deliberation going on around it. And even, you've heard already on the podcast with the submissions that we've just had and a lot of a chat with the commentators. And I know the community on Twitter, people still aren't certain as to whether George Russell's is 100% of the fault, whether it was Sergei Perez, who you know, who should have backed out, or actually if it was Georgie Russ, it was 100% out of fault. There needs to be a bit more of a clear-cut understanding of how these things take place and
Starting point is 00:42:42 what causes a penalty to be given. But I actually do think it was better overall. At least they applied the track limits penalties during the race period equally to everyone. And I'm okay with that. So ups and downs. I do think it was an improvement. We're skilled off a long, long way away, I think. I'll put the mic down.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I feel like that added some gravitas to everything you just said there, Sam. Like it just made your opinions more official. Thanks. Loud, louder. Sorry. Sorry. All right. My views on this.
Starting point is 00:43:21 There's a lot to say. There's a lot I could say. But I'll keep it somewhat brief because there is that much. If you know, look at the weekend in isolation, I think you picked up on this point, Sam. If you looked at the weekend in isolation, I think they did a mostly all right job. There were a few things that I wasn't happy with and I'll get to those. The issue is more weekend to weekend. And inconsistency has always been an issue with the FIA. It's not a 2022 issue. It's always existed. And we're not going to get into the
Starting point is 00:43:57 Michael Massey debate now, but we know he was essentially relieved of his duties at the end of last season. But he was the only race director, and there were still inconsistencies when it was just him. So the FIA's answer to inconsistencies was add more variables into the mix by having more than one. I didn't think it was a great idea at the time. I certainly don't think it's a good idea now as we look race to race. And a lot of the drivers are picking up on this. I think George Russell most significantly saying that it's almost like the, the, the blest and the blest, can be passed to the other race director if they're not at the next race. I wasn't in charge of that when that decision was made. That wasn't on me. That can't work and that shouldn't work.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And there is a level of interpretation around the rules and regulations. And I think it should be the job of the FIA to eliminate as much interpretation as possible. But there is always going to be some sort of that. So having just one, it does make sense. or at least having a better way to manage it if you are using multiple. So things that should have been penalised in Silverstone most significantly, the Perez incident, the Vestappan incident, that just went, you know, that were punished here in Austria. It shouldn't work that way.
Starting point is 00:45:16 In terms of the weekend itself, what went right, what went wrong, I was glad that they were really ruthless with the five second penalties they were giving out in the race because, yeah, it's against the rules. So I was really worried that they were going to start handing out black and white flags and then start to show some leniency. And they didn't. And I don't know if any of the drivers are unhappy about this, but if they are, I would tell them, quite simply, if you stay within the track, you wouldn't get the black and white flag, you wouldn't get the penalties. So you've got to stay within the rules. It's the same with any other sports. So I was glad that they applied them. And to those saying there's too many penalties,
Starting point is 00:45:54 it's over-regulated. Well, if they keep penalising this much, the drivers will get the message and stop doing it so much. There's the problem solved. The things that I wasn't as happy about, the Perez incident in qualifying, make the decision at the time of it happening. How have you not automated this system to a point where the decisions can be essentially instant? I mean, it has, as far as I'm aware, but they decided to let it slide. They'll investigate it after after the session. And again, it's not an issue specific to this weekend. It always happens. But just investigated at the time. Then Pierre Gasly, I think it would have been, would have had the chance to go into Q3 and we know what happened to Russell and Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You don't know how far he could have made it up the grid, that he wasn't afforded the opportunity to do so. So I was very disappointed in that. And also, God, Leclair, I think, should have got a penalty in the spring race, because as far as I'm concerned, he did exactly the same thing that Albin did, and the same thing that Gassley did. The only difference is that Carlos Sines backed out enough to the point that there wasn't contact, but he still forced him off, he didn't leave a car's whiff, which in my book is enough for a penalty. So that was a bit of inconsistency. I wasn't particularly happy with, but the fact that Albon got penalised, Gassley got penalised, I think they were correct in doing so. And, yeah, and Russell as well, of course. So, yeah, I, I,
Starting point is 00:47:22 I was quite happy in that respect. Bit of a mixed bag is the overall conclusion. What about you, Harry? Yeah, exactly the same as you. A mixed bag. I was very pleased with the track limit penalties. It's absolutely correct. I'd go for even less warnings.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Just be like one warning and then the second time, it's a penalty. But fair that, you know, they actually gave out the five seconds. And it's difficult because obviously like Hamilton was saying, you know, that's BS, I'm not going off the track. But they have the hard evidence. He literally did go off the track because they showed it replay, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:48:00 And these drivers are trying to argue it. But when it's, as you say, automated like that, it's a slam dunk, which is why the Perez thing, a qualifying incident this is, is so frustrating, as you mentioned, because it's like they're punishing him more severely because they missed it effectively. they missed the infringement. And because of that, he gets punished more, which that doesn't seem fair either. Yeah, fine, it was his mistake.
Starting point is 00:48:31 He went, you cut the corner, he went too wide. But in any other circumstances with trap limits, it gets deleted straight away. So then perils will probably go again and set the lap time. But as you say, Ben, even if they had investigated it and it was decided before the start of Q3, at least it gives Gazley that opportunity. So yeah, that was just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:48:52 the rest of the penalties for contact, like say, well, we know I'm slightly more lenient on the rule around leaving space, but why is it, as you say, different to Silverstone then in that case? Because, you know, the, as you say, LeCler one and the Albuhr-Norris one, very similar incidents to what we had in Silverston. So why is it any different here?
Starting point is 00:49:18 The Russell Perez one and the Ghazdi Vettel one, I think are more slam dunks in my view. But yeah, that's frustrating to see. Because even if I am more lenient, I'd rather they would just pick aside and go with it. If they're going to do the lenient thing at Silverston is fine by me, obviously, because I don't care so much.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But if they're not going to do that and do what they did this weekend, I'm also fine as long as they just consistently apply that rule, which they're not doing. So, yeah, halfway there, FIA. halfway there for Frederick. Just be a little bit better again. I think what's another thing that's very clear about the penalty situation when it comes to
Starting point is 00:50:02 the wheel to a racing, got the track limits is they are still penalising based on the end product. How is it affected the driver that's being taken out? We saw it with the the Clare situation, right? There was no contact with Carlos Sainz, but he did muscle him all the way to the point where he was no longer allowed
Starting point is 00:50:21 be on the track properly. And it feels like the FAA and the skewers are penalising based on how badly touched was the car? Was it a little bit of wheel to wheel rubbing? Oh, okay, leave it, forget about it. Was it a you've been catapulting into the gravel? All right, well, now we're going to give a penalty. Despite the action being exactly the same, there was just no contact. I still think they're penalising the result and the physical accident rather than what the
Starting point is 00:50:46 action was, which could be very, very consistently marked down as you're not leaving space for the car next. to you. And if you start doing it that way, I feel like we'll get more consistent penalties rather than did you actually crash, yes or no? Yeah, I mean, if you look at the Gasley and Hamilton start for the sprint race, if the roles have been reversed there in terms of Hamilton was the one off the side of the track and Gasly was absolutely fine sauntering off into the distance, does Gasly go unpunished? Because as far as I'm aware, that's how it went down, right? So, yeah, again, probably basing things on aftermath rather than what the actual incident was.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Speaking of contact, what did Sebastian Etel do this weekend to deserve the bullying? Everyone just shoving him into every gravel trap. Because he left the meeting so early. We had to sit through that meeting the whole time and you left early. So you know what? We're going to bully you now. Have some of this. It is funny how turn four work.
Starting point is 00:51:48 in that both the drivers on the inside and the outside think that they have the right to be there. And it just ends. Someday these guys are going to learn, right? That two cars can go through there. It can be done. I think it's good. It's not like a straight exit.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It tightens up, doesn't it, down the hill? So it's a very weird one. We've seen a lot of the same incidents, haven't we? Indeed, we have. Let's have a look at Mercedes because, again, And they had a very strong showing, and in fact were checks results. Yes, they were the best team out there. 15 points, 12 points, 27 overall, beats the 25 that Ferrari got and the 18 Red Bull got.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So somehow, Mercedes have come away from that weekend as the best performing team. Somehow, I'm not including the sprint race. So third place for Hamilton, seemed to have a pretty safe race up until third. George Russell had a lot more work to do given the start he had but ended up finishing fourth as well so what did you make of their results Sam were you encouraged that again they've secured a good number of points
Starting point is 00:53:01 or discouraged because they were a long way behind I think you could be both in this situation I think Mercedes did well to once again pick up the pieces and if you look at where Mercedes started the season well okay that's not too just heartening they are once again able to pick up a pogging they got another fourth place.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They outscored their two rival teams on the Sunday. And it was a positive step forward in terms of championship moments for them, right? They did well. But if you look at how are they doing in terms of their progress that we saw maybe at Silverstone, where at one point people were saying that Hamilton was on for the wing here, this felt like a step back. This felt like a real negative moment for Mercedes. And I know that both cars had serious issues over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:53:50 end. And it looked like it was a car problem, right? Hamilton lost the back end, really un-Hamilton-like, and went straight into the back wall, end of the wall, rather. And then George Russell also lost the back end, going through the final corner, straight into the wall. Both drivers had to have chassis work done. Hamilton obviously had to have any brakes attached at the start of the Grand Prix as well. So I think third and fourth, after what was quite a dramatic race weekend for them, is positive. But when you look at the pace difference after Silverstone to now, they finished the Grand Prix 30 seconds or more behind LeCleur and Perez. When, you know, there was a DNF for two of the cars.
Starting point is 00:54:29 LeCle had throttle issues. Verstappen was struggling with tire deg, and they were still absolutely nowhere near. Of course, George Russell kind of ending his own fate by causing the collision with Sergio Perez. But Hamilton, he got through a bit of traffic. He never even looked like he was making inroads on a softer tire. If I'm Mercedes, I go, this was good for points.
Starting point is 00:54:48 This is bad for our overall championship hopes. I don't think they took any steps forward here in terms of form or in terms of ability. I think they got a little bit lucky with DNFs around them and they made the most of it, which is fine to do, but not when you're Mercedes who are eight-time constructors champions. I think they'll be wanting more. Yeah, I kind of agree with you there. I know that they weren't as optimistic about Austria versus Silverstone, and I know they're more optimistic about Paul Ricard coming up.
Starting point is 00:55:20 So it's not like Mercedes expected to be there to the same degree, but I think they're probably going to be a little disappointed with how far away they were. Because in terms of qualifying, it seemed to be all right enough. Obviously, we don't know where they would have ended up in the mix on Friday because, well, they forgot how to do the F1. but, you know, they might well have been just a tenth or two behind the top guys. So, yeah, I think it's a little disappointing how far they were away. Of course, Hamilton wasn't helped by the fact that he had more work to do at the start
Starting point is 00:55:57 than perhaps he should have had. And George Russell had a lot more work to do than he should have had based on his crash. So what Russell's true pace was, what Hamilton's true pace was, Maybe we don't know for certain, but they would have liked to have been, let's say, 10, 15 seconds back from the top guys. Because, you know, at that point, you're kind of averaging about quarter of a second per lap behind, which I think would have been an acceptable gap around Austria. But realistically, it was closer to about half a second, which doesn't sound like a great amount. But considering the Austrian lap is only about seven seconds long, that's a fair amount. So, yeah, I don't think it was the best result in the world.
Starting point is 00:56:41 George Russell, I think, was deserving of that penalty. I put the blame on him for that crash with Sergio Perez. I think he fought back very well, but ultimately he shouldn't have needed to. And Hamilton had a great race as well. And I think Martin Brunnel alluded to this in commentary, it just doesn't quite make sense how many points Mercedes have. Because whilst they have separated themselves from the midfield, and they are very comfortably the third best team on the grid.
Starting point is 00:57:09 They are very comfortably not the second best team on the grid, yet they are at least somewhat in that fight. Like if for whatever reason there was to be this dramatic turnaround, not that I'm expecting it will happen, Mercedes are in a position where they could somehow capitalize on it. They haven't lost out by as much as they should have done in this first half of the year. So a mixed bag, yeah, I think you're probably right on that, Sam.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You can be encouraged and discouraged at the same time. I think you're right with your analysis there. Harry, what do you say? Very much, very much agree. I do wonder what the scenario would have been, had neither car binned it in qualifying, because as you say, there was a lot of work done on the both of them quite, quite bodged together those two Mercedes were for the race and for the sprint. And, you know, I know they have some of the best mechanics in the world fixing those cars,
Starting point is 00:58:04 but it's never the same as a car that was not broken in the first place. We saw on the sprint, I think beforehand, they were like, they taped up Russell's floor. He had the old spec wing. As you say, Hounsen had the problem with his brakes before the race. So maybe without the crashes in qualifying, which obviously is entirely their own fault, maybe they would have been closer in the race because the qualifying pace looked fairly convincing, which I guess we didn't necessarily expect. So lots of if, if, butts and maybe's there.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah, I think they can still be disappointed with how that weekend went. I think they probably were, maybe would have been hoping to be further in the fight. As you say, I agree, I think France will be a better race for them anyway. But, yeah, even though it was slightly disappointing for them, they've still got third and fourth and outscored Ferrari and Red Bull. So they can't be too disappointed with how it all played out because at the end of the day, they are still in that position through consistency
Starting point is 00:59:10 and they don't break down. They're broken down at all this year? Stapman? No? Shaking heads? Only D&F they've had is when Russell went out with the show crash. Yeah, there you go. So it's very consistent.
Starting point is 00:59:26 and that's why they are still clinging on to that top two battle because the top two keep making mistakes slash being unreliable. So yeah, I totally agree. Mix bag is the best way to describe it for Mercedes this weekend, but they still picked up a solid amount of points and I think that will be encouraging for them once they go into Paul Ricard. And I mean, you have to say, with George Russell's crash and him having to work his way through the field,
Starting point is 00:59:56 it was such a brilliant job that their number two driver could step up that was inspirational oh no gone for you it's got the fish of run out again gone fishing to be fair
Starting point is 01:00:10 I know you you've already said this but it was totally his own fault for being out of the back it was quite an impressive recovery from Russell because what was he at the end like 18 seconds behind Hamilton yeah I'm not saying to drive for the day worthy because as you say
Starting point is 01:00:26 it was his own fault for being there, but was maybe under the radar recovery drive from him. It also shows just how far, just how far from the States have come, because I don't think if that happened in the second race, I don't think they have the car to carve through the midfield in the way that he did there. He did a really good job making the most of it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Well, yeah, I mean, we saw in like Saudi, wasn't it? Hamilton started far back and just didn't go anywhere for the entire race. Yeah. I think he did a good job of not getting stuck in the RS trains because that was always a risk at this circuit. And we saw it multiple times across the weekend. So, yeah, I think you're right. Didn't need to be there, but considering he was, he did a pretty good job.
Starting point is 01:01:04 We've got one more topic on this week's review. We're going to be looking at the sprint race from Saturday right after this. Harry. Harry, Harry, Harry, Harry. We had a sprint race this weekend. There was won by Max Verstappen. What did you make of it? Look, I said this whilst I was watching it yesterday.
Starting point is 01:01:30 today on Saturday. All the sprint race did was allow those drivers in qualifying who'd made a boo-boo to recover somewhat their positions that they would have probably got in qualifying. So what is the point?
Starting point is 01:01:48 All we've done here is made a less good grid for the actual race. For what? And for what? Because what was that good about apart from the Hasse teammates squabbling and what was good about that. So the thing is,
Starting point is 01:02:10 I would be so happy if there was just a sprint race that did not decide the grid. If it was completely separate to the grid setting system, that's such an easy fix. Just do that instead. But this, not out of 10. Absolute nought out of 10. So a glowing review from Harry Ead.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Sam, what do you make them? The only good thing that happened in the sprint race was watching Lewis Hamilton, Mick Schumacher and Kevin Magnuson go at it for the entire time. And that was fun. But as Harry said, Sergio Perez managed to recover very well. Lewis Hamilton gained a few places.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He was closer to the frung after his boo-boo. Um, yeah, other than that, what's there really to talk about? What's there to ride home with? Um, it was just boring in comparison to the real race, which was incredibly fun. Qualifying was also incredibly fun. Um, and the sprint race brought nothing apart from redemption for drivers that have made mistakes. So thank you to Mick Schumacher for providing some entertainment because it needed it. Other than that, as Harry had said, no out of ten.
Starting point is 01:03:30 might even go as far to say minus 1 out of 10. It was poop, rubbish, crap, and I don't want another one. It's really interesting, actually, because sprint races, you know, on this podcast, we're all anti-sprim race. I think that's fair to say. But in the F1 community at large, I think it's probably close to 50-50. I think it's much closer to 50-50 than it is in this podcast at least. and a lot of people say, well, it's better than a free practice session.
Starting point is 01:04:06 And my point is, I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying that because I don't want sprint races, that doesn't also mean I think we should not reduce practice time. I'm very happy to reduce practice time. And I think I would do that. But just because that is the case, doesn't mean you also need a sprint race. And I think it does dilute away from the main event. And I've made this point multiple times on this podcast, but it really is just adding an extra stint on top of the Grand Prix on Sunday, but it doesn't have any of the strategic enjoyment because it's a completely separate. It's a separate stint is basically what it is. And you get drivers who are on the same strategy with no opportunity to pit. And there is some good action. I mean, if you do a race around Austria and there is a
Starting point is 01:04:59 any good action, you've done something really, really badly wrong. So there is, there are some good bits in there, but it also, I think it takes away as much as it adds, because it does take away from the Grand Prix at large. Sergio Perez, obviously, we don't know what he would have done in the race today, but if you'd finished P4, P3, all of that work had been done on the Saturday. It's almost like an excuse to say, qualifying isn't as important. And you've got more opportunity to make up a mistake on the Friday. And I said before the, I said in the preview this week, that I am absolutely delighted that we've got a sprint race weekend this weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And I stand by that because I said there is that direct comparison to what we had at Silverstone last week. And of the two, tell me which one you prefer. I know which one I'm picking. I much preferred what Silverstone was. I just don't, and I'm not against, therefore I'm trying new things. And I'm not against them trying something else with a sprint race format.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I still don't like the idea that there is a weekend that is worth more than another weekend. That doesn't sit right with me. But if they want to try or something else that doesn't set the grid or I don't know what it would be, then okay, I'm willing to listen to a proposal. But the way that it's working right now, it just promotes too much. conservative racing, too much in the way of making up for mistakes from the Friday, and it's just separate in terms of strategy. So what did you give it, Sam, minus one out of ten?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Correct, yes. I'd give it a ten out of ten because everyone can see my point about what I made on the preview. Well done, Benjamin. You are very clever. Always so smart, aren't you? The thing that actually the biggest point that I think you brought away from that was that you're right, it's 50-50 enjoyment with the public. But the argument that the rest of the people that enjoy it seem to do is,
Starting point is 01:07:05 well, I just get to watch more racing. Yeah, I agree. You get to watch more racing like you said. But what's the point you watch more racing that simply just fills time? It doesn't help anything. It doesn't create any more excitement. It reduces excitement for the main event that we have all loved. I like you to.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I'm not against some form of. Saturday entertainment or some form of race or something that goes ahead. F2 makes sprint races work very well and actually they're regularly very exciting to watch but in its current format with its current achievements that it's meant to set out I don't think it works how it's intended and it becomes very very dull and it dilutes what could be an even more entertaining race on the Sunday imagine today's race with Perez starting P13 Hamilton and P10 and what you might have a whole race to try and rectify it could have been a lot more fun. This is what. This is what winds me up because F1
Starting point is 01:07:55 you've got the perfect you've got the perfect what's the word basically F2 blueprint yes thank you Ben you've got the perfect blueprint for a sprint race because your feeder series your junior series
Starting point is 01:08:09 Formula 2 already do it been doing it for years just do that instead or not difficult I need another magnum oh get the magnum's out sotsky's away magums out it's summertime
Starting point is 01:08:22 Before we go on this review podcast, just to mention that across the Austrian Grand Prix weekend, there were multiple reports of sexual harassment. I know the FIA put out a statement on the Sunday. I think there were messages that were played out around the track as well. Did you have anything to say on that one before we go, Sam? this makes me really angry to the point where I'm going to have to try and keep myself calm on the podcast because there isn't much that annoys me and frustrates me and angers me as much as this does in a serious manner, not just silly sprint race or Ferrari anger.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And it's really hard as well for the FIA, for Liberty, for Formula One management to handle as well because it's not like you can preempt this. But work needs to be done. You should never, ever, out care who you are in the community. you should never be turning up to anything. Formula One, a public event, walking down the road, and harassing someone for who they are, whether they identify as a woman,
Starting point is 01:09:32 whether it's because of their race, gender, religion, I don't care what it is. Stop shouting at people as they walk past you. Stop making them feel uncomfortable or unsafe. Stop harving them physically. The behaviour that has been exhibited, I don't care by whose fans or what supporters or what they do. It is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It's not welcome on this podcast. It's not welcoming our community. and I bloody don't want it in Formula One. I don't want it anywhere. And if you're a part of it, if you see someone being a part of it, call it out, make it known, it's appalling.
Starting point is 01:10:03 We've already had someone in our community on our Discord saying they feel uncomfortable going to a Grand Prix because they don't want this to happen to them. And that is so sad. And I never want that to happen to anyone. I'm glad that they acknowledged it. They need to try and educate their fans, put out adverts,
Starting point is 01:10:21 get out advertisements around tracks, make sure security are on hand everywhere. There is so much I can do and it needs to be done because it is a disgusting, horrible thing. So stand up to it, community. Please stand up to it as much as you can because it just should not be happening.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Harry, any thoughts? Yeah, I mean, it's just unacceptable. We've had some troubling, it feels like some troubling scenes. And this obviously being by far in a way the worst and the most abhorrent. But just some troubling scenes from fans that seem to be brewing lately.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And if you're one of these people, you're not an F1 fan, you're just a job, and you should stay at home because we don't want you. We don't want you to at our racetracks or in our community. So I've got no much more to say
Starting point is 01:11:11 that Sam's already stated. So yeah, just absolutely do one. Yep, I couldn't agree more. It's the one thing that I'd like to add to this is that whilst it has been raised this weekend, specifically relating to the Austrian Grand Prix, and I was, of course, very happy to see that there was some action taken. I would hope that the FIA and all those involved realize that this is an issue that extends much further than an individual Grand Prix.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I hope that as the Austrian Grand Prix comes to a close, the FIA do not think that their job is done and that the issue is now over. It is systemic. We have an issue regarding inclusivity and we have an issue regarding this sort of culture. And it needs to be tackled weekend to weekend. It needs to be tackled in terms of the sport at large rather than just relating to one venue, one Grand Prix. So I hope that the action, I hope that it extends for the rest of this year and for all seasons to come, because absolutely everyone should be given the chance to be made to feel included when it comes to this sport. I appreciate gatekeeping can be done to a much lesser degree to what we're talking about here.
Starting point is 01:12:39 But certainly, there should always be that culture of inclusivity. We want the sport to grow. We want everyone who could be entertained by Formula One to be entertained by Formula One. And inclusivity, it goes into many different directions in terms of making sure there's accessibility, making sure that these sorts of things, these allegations, they do not come up, they're just not carried out. It's an issue. And I hope, I hope that the FIA takes this seriously. because it can't happen.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It absolutely cannot happen. And I think that will do it for this week's podcast. A few mentions. Firstly, we've got another episode coming up midweek, even though there isn't a race next weekend. We're always here on a Wednesday. But we're also going to be together for next weekend. So you'll remember that we just passed 200 episodes a few weeks ago
Starting point is 01:13:47 and we were very prepared for a 200th episode special to the point where we're going to record it this weekend. Classic. We have decided we're going to do it in three parts. The first part is going to be a Q&A. So if you do have a question for us, there's going to be a separate Discord submission channel for that where you can ask us absolutely anything you like.
Starting point is 01:14:08 We'll pick out our favourite ones to mention in that episode. If you're not in the Discord, we'll probably also do something similar on Twitter and on Instagram. We're also going to have a form that Harry is going to attach to this episode. Well done, Harry. Have you sent that link? Do I have that link? I'll send it to you, mate. I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 01:14:28 We'll get it to you. So, yes, there are multiple ways you can get your questions in. The second part, this one could fall flat on its face, could be the most hilarious thing we've ever done. We're going to do a roast. If you want to roast us in any way, shape or form about our opinions, our opinions or indeed our terrible opinions, please get in touch of us on Discord.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Again, there is going to be a separate channel set up for roast submissions. We're going to try our best to make these audio only. So similar to what we do for Driver of the Day and Bold Predictions. We know you're very creative, so we'll leave you to it. But we're going to make a third of our podcast, that. And then the final third is going to be a quiz that I need to prepare at some point.
Starting point is 01:15:13 which is going to be reviewing our first 200 anime episodes. So some nostalgia possibly included in that. Sam, if you wouldn't mind for the other parts, getting us out of here. Yes, well done, Ben, for remembering that. Of course, I completely forgot. I'm so going to all put together on the quiz. Well done, us.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I'm so going to you all put together the quiz and not me as we saw by the start of this episode, how quizzes might go if I run them. on the Q&A folks it doesn't just have to be F1 base you're welcome to if you actually do want to you can get to know us
Starting point is 01:15:49 you can ask us questions about who we are what's going on in life that kind of thing you know go for it have fun and with the roast if you're not funny
Starting point is 01:15:58 right we will just big off the whole section if no one says anything funny in I'll just go I will just roast you for 10 minutes all right we'll sit here on the community on this chat
Starting point is 01:16:07 and I'll just say you're crap yeah so you better be funny otherwise I'll throw it in your face. All right, I'll get us out of here. There is a Discord link in the description that Harry always remembers to put in there. It's a very good joke because a very good boy. Well done. I'm being serious.
Starting point is 01:16:23 You do a very good job. We've got nearly a thousand people in there, which is crazy. And you can join in with activations like this, the Q&A, the roast. And we've got a proper quiz happening next weekend in the Discord that Ben has put together. Multiple choice. It's a really fun quiz. it's open to all levels of understanding of Formula One as well. So whether you've come in this season and you're just getting into Formula One
Starting point is 01:16:47 or you've been in for, I don't know, 50 years. The community want you, they're lovely joining. See what you think. And we're going to do a little bit of a merch giveaway to the winner. So you can win a hat, I think, is what I've got up there. So joining. It's good fun. Of course, the form for the Q&A is going to be in the description as well.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Harry will put that in there when he gets the link. Send us a question. Let's go. We'll do it. Oh, good. Well done, everyone. We're on board. send us your questions.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Ask us many questions as you want. You know, let us know what you think. After that, of course, you can contact us on social media. Twitter is at L breaking. Instagram is the late breaking F1 podcast. And when the kids come and knocking, we go TikTok. Oh, TikTok. That's right.
Starting point is 01:17:27 It's a late breaking F1 podcast. This is fantastic. We produce silly videos over there. It's where I find my most joy. We also have merchandise, hats, hoodies, t-shirts, mugs, stickers, just because of a heads up, if you ever want to support us, you think, these guys, bizarrely do a very good job, I listen to them all the time, I'd like to kind of support
Starting point is 01:17:49 them. Buying an item of merch massively helps us, and as does, our Patreon, which the link is also in the description, multiple tiers. So if you've got some pennies left over at the end of the month, you think, I can't afford a lot, that's okay. And if you even consider spending any money with us, thank you. It genuinely change is what we're able to do with our lives and on this podcast and making something. So to everyone that does support, thank you. Everyone that is considering it, thank you. I hope you enjoyed the race. It was an eventful one, which is great to see, and we've got a special episode as well with another friend of the podcast next weekend as well, which is exciting. I think that's it. In the meantime, I've been Samuel Singh.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And I've been Harry Ead. And remember, keep breaking late. I need that song on Spotify. Now live Laugh for Teefe. The podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.

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