The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2022 British GP Review

Episode Date: July 3, 2022

The LB boys are back to review a thrilling 2022 British GP! They review their bold predictions, name their best and worst driver of the day, and pick a moment of the race. They also discuss the enormous first lap shunt involving Zhou Guanyu, Carlos Sainz's first win and the resurgence of Lewis Hamilton. JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! EMAIL us: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to tune in for new episodes every Wednesday and Grand Prix Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage. And me, Ben Hocking. A very boring Silverstone Grand Prix that we're reviewing today. Not much happened at all. apart from the fact that Carlos Sines took his first ever race win in his 150th race start. Ferrari,

break the streak of Red Bull. They finally get a win. But it was Sergio Perez on the podium alongside. Alongside, not Charlotte Clef. Charlec did not go on the podium. And Lewis Hamilton was third. It's a good start. And Latifie made Q3. What a fantastic weekend all round. And Sam, you've got a brand new game for us. So could this review be any better? I mean, hello everyone listening. If you come from the radio show where we're an advert now, then welcome if this is your first ever podcast. We hope you've all enjoyed the British Grand Prix.

It was quite hectic. We managed to record our reaction, didn't we, Harry? We did. I mean, folks, me and Sam were in the same room for this podcast recording, which is very weird. Very weird and unusual. But yeah, we recorded our reaction and a good race for that to do that. Yeah, I think it wasn't Monaco.

The recording would be us asleep. Anyway, I have a new game, and it's called, our American fans will love this, ready? Here we go. Yee-ha, it's Sammy's Race Day takeaway. Yee-ha. Pooh, pooh. Palmish just died. Sorry, Ben.

Down at this big game. It won't last long. It's very quick. Folks, the premise of the game is that we are going to recap the really key and obvious points that happen. So you're up to date. So you remember all the moments that happened. The guys will have. Eight questions, four to choose from each, and one of them can probably win.

The answers are meant to be, boys, very, very simple. I just thought, what if you've remembered them wrong? I haven't. Okay. Possibility. I don't remember anything wrong. That's proving all the other games we've ever played. I never get anything wrong.

Anyway, Ben, as you have to not deal with me and Harry's had to deal with me, I'll let you go first. What numbers do you like between one and eight? Since you two usually go in order from one to two to three to four, and you are generally smart people, I will go completely against that and go for number seven. Nice one. Okay. Number seven.

You ask. Who at the Silverstone Grand Prix gained the most positions? Vettel. Vettel is correct. He gained 11 positions. Thank you to the stupid cryptocurrency advertisement that tells me that information. It was also asked you Vettel. He moved up the most.

positions in the race. One point to Ben's. Well done. Miss Garee. Suck it, Harry. Fuck it indeed. Shut up, Ben. Number six.

Number six. What flag during the race was Nicholas Latifie shown? Black and white. Black and white is correct. It's one or. I told you these should be simple. We're just running through the key events. One all.

And that is a key one. That was key. And it's only black and white fly throughout the whole race, classic Latifie. Benjamin, your second one. Number two. Number two, big fat two. Who managed to spin their car and collect their teammate in the process?

That was the one and only, Jackie Ix. What's wrong here, then, my friend. Yuki Sanoda. Oh, yes, Hall of Fame at Yuki Sanoda managed to somehow throw down the handbraking, heavy braking, and clatter his teammate off the track at the same time. He didn't do the Hall of Fame very proud in that moment in time. Anyway, two one to Ben, three questions down. Harry, you've got questions one, three, four, five and eight.

One, please. Number one. During lap one, we saw the very unfortunate inkstand that included a certain car upside down. Quite shocking. But three drivers were out of the race. Who were those three drivers? Not Esteban Ockon, because he was determined not to be out. It was Alex Albonne.

Georgie Russ and poor enough. This is the most obvious one. Oh, a joke on you. Sorry, it was a forgettable one, Harry. Don't worry about it. One of the most graphic crashes. We've had it along for it.

I was trying to, in my mind, think of the ones that were just sort of stopped. Stop on the line. It's behind the barrier, upside. He was hiding, obviously, so I missed it. You are correct. It is two all. Bang, you can choose from questions three,

four, five or eight. Three. Number three. Who ran over the curb at Chapel and stated, these tyres aren't lovely anymore? Who went over the... Oh, sorry. Curb at Chapel.

Thanks for Stappen. Correct. I don't care. It was the exit of Maggots of Beckett. So to me, I thought that was Chapel. Who cares, folks? Anyway, well done, Ben. You've taken the lead.

Harry, you've got four, five or eight. eight please. Who broke down on lap 39 to bring out the safety car? I've already mentioned him. Esteban Ockle. Well done. I hope you're remembering the key events of the race.

I think I've summarised them nicely so far. We're at a draw. There are two questions to go. Yeha, indeed. Then you've got four and five left, which you choose. One is significantly harder than the other one, by the way. Oh, good. Number four.

Oh, you chose the easy one. Well, then. during the battle between the two Ferraris, what were they told they were able to do? Fight. Correct. They were free to fight. Swiftly followed, not for your life.

That feels unfair. You gotta fight. Oh, you're right. Okay, anyway. Good. Good musical interlude there before the final moment. But well done then. Technically, you've taken the lead.

It's four, three. To make it a draw, I haven't got a tiebreaker set up because I haven't thought about this properly. In true spirit. Harry, you've got one more to go. It is the hardest question of the entire quiz. Okay.

And it's question number five. Number five, please. What lap, did Nicholas Latifie fall out of the top ten? Oh, I've no idea. It's a very important moment that happened. I've nailed that 50-50, haven't I? Oh, my God. It was on lap 33.

Is it going right? It's lap 33. Is it? It's lap 33. Have a day off. No, you're joking. It's not. It's on my phone.

Lap 33. My God. If it was overtaken from 10th place down to 11th out of the points, you're managing it all right. You paid attention. Yee ha! This was Sammy's brain state takeaway. Yee!

Ha! Right, hang on. Hang on. Speaking of remembering key events, if you remember the first two minutes of the podcast, you will remember that they are in the same place, which is very rare for a late-breaking recording. He's going to call you a cheetah.

So am I supposed to believe that Harry Ead, who is literally centimetres away from Sam Sage, wasn't fed the answer? This is Quizgay. This is quiz game. I swear to God, I would admit it if it came by handcheed. Harry is a lot of things in life, but it's not a cheater.

I'm a lover, not a cheetah. He's a moron, not a cheater. Yeah, that's how that goes. He also very good at guessing in Formula One related facts. That's, that's, I, I don't know why I thought 33. It was before the safety car, right? It was. Well done.

Safety car was at some point. He's so bitter about it. We have to move on quickly. Yeah, I'm pretty. We won't be together, folks. So, um, I had the win in my pocket then. It might be. I can come round again.

I don't. I can come round again. We might be. I'm in Cornwall, so. I'll come down. You can come see me then. I can go to vent. That's a very good point.

Right. Anyway, that's actually talk about the podcast. I hope you've all remember the key events, folks. I've put that together. Just for you. Thank you. So Carlos Sines won his first race. Suddenly he's getting a little bit closer in the championship battle,

or at least closer to his teammate, of course, who wasn't on the podium, as I very nearly got wrong in the intro to this. Sam, do you think that Sines' win here can help elevate him, getting a bit closer on a more even footing versus LeClair at Ferrari? I mean, I feel like the obvious answer that a lot of people are going for is, is yes. It feels like you know, you get the motivation behind you,

you get some momentum behind you, and you are capable of, you're capable of pushing onwards with that. The point is, oh, this might be controversial, I think Carlos Sykes couldn't have been gifted

more of a wing if you tried. The entire race, his teammate, was essentially fastening him with a broken car. Regardless of strategy, Lecler was putting him the fastest,

laps, the team orders were all over the place from Ferrari, and I think the safety car came out at the perfect time. And also, Sergio Perez, who ending up being the biggest threat to the top spot on the podium, got caught up with the Leclair and Hamilton battle, just leaving enough time for him to scamper off down the road. Now, science gives what he needed to do, right? He executed the restart up well, he got past his teammate well. He drove well. It wasn't a bad performance from science at all, but I don't think he was up to the speck of his teammate for the majority of that race. And I think it's very easy for him to possibly look at the whole race review and maybe dwell on the fact that he was only there because his teammate was in a damaged vehicle and the team orders were in playing. It was a bit of a mess.

I do hope that science does walk away from this with that momentum, with that motivation behind him and go, right, yeah, I can kick on. I've got a race under my belt. The nerves are gone. I can do it. It can fall into my lap now. I can start pumping in those performances. But this wasn't the dominant and brilliant performance that I think kind of. Carlos Sykes maybe would have liked had he qualified on pole position.

Remember, before the red flag came out, he'd already lost the top spot, and Max for Stappen. So it wasn't going well for him, and he needed a restart to even get that back. So I think if Carlos Sites looks into this with too much detail, he could very easily lose the confidence he may have just picked up with this debut victory. Harry, was this the result that signs needed in that fight? Absolutely, absolutely the result he needed. And who knows where this, this weekend, I think more than any, it's shown that he's just not quite got the confidence of a Lecler or of Estappen.

So even with the poll yesterday, he was a bit surprised that he got it. And to be fair, he was sort of nowhere in that Q3 into that final lap. And fair play, he pulled it out when, put that lap out when he needed it. And the other two either spun or had issues with yellow flags. But yeah, it might, this might be it. This might be the boost that he needs, the confidence boost that he needs. needs. But I am with Samma in that I don't think he was the most gifted win ever.

He did still have to overtake LeClair, which fine. It wasn't a hard overtake. But LeClair fought it well. But he was fairly fortunate with how that went down. A bit of it was signs, we'll get on to Ferrari strategy. But I think if signs had given in to letting LeClair through earlier, LeClair would have had a bigger gap, probably been able to stack them both. under the safety car and it could have been a one too but it would have been probably the

one two that was LeCler first and signed second so in that sense he did actually help himself there but yeah a bit of luck but you've got to be in it to win it I hope for the championship sake this is this is the boost that he needs because it was great you know great to have another first winner and yeah there's been a few moments this season where it's like Carlos may never pick up a win so I hope this is what it needs to to boosting forward. But like Sam says, maybe don't look back too much. There are some bits in the race that he, I think he made his own,

but also some of it he didn't have the pace. So don't overanalyze this one. Carlos, just drink it in, mate. That's sort of what I'd say. Just drink it in. Yeah, and I think he probably will. And whilst we might overanalyze it, I don't think the man himself is going to.

Because it is that elation of winning your first ever race. And it's not like he's had to wait 20 or 30 races for this, experience. He's had to wait 150. His career is about seven years old now. So I'm sure, at least for today, it's just going to be that pure jubilation of victory. And I think you're right that it looks like he's not going to overanalyze this because, yeah, there was that that real sense at the end. You know, over-team radio, Lewis Hamilton got the fastest lap at the end. I'm afraid Carlos, to be honest, mate, don't care, was essentially the answer. Don't care. Don't care. And I'm sure Vastappan in that situation or Lecler in that situation would not have come back with that,

but they are more used to winning than Carlos Sines is. So yeah, I think this is the result he absolutely needed. And it's not unfeasible to think that Sines could compete with Leclair because, well, we've already seen it. He beat Lecler last season. And we did say, we have said last season when we were looking at that result, that Leclair might have been the better driver. It just didn't show it on points. But even so, he was there with Lecler last year. So it's not crazy to think that the confidence boost from this win might elevate him to a level close to Lecler or even on Lecler's level. But realistically, if we're looking at this Grand Prix in isolation and just looking at

the performance, Sam spot on. It wasn't. He was gifted the win. And I don't ever once say that a Grand Prix winner is undeserving because you can only work with what's in front of you. But ultimately, yes, there were far more. more errors in there than perhaps the result would imply. If you just look at the result, you'll see a pole position was converted into a race win, which looks pretty good. But when you do look

into everything that happened, lost the lead at the start, very nearly lost the lead a second time on the start. But to be fair to him, he got his elbows out well the second time around. You know, didn't have the pace of Leclair. Your right to bring up the damage Leclair had, was on the better strategy at the end. Would he have won that if they had decided to pit Leclair? No, he wouldn't have done. I'm not going to say too much more on that because I've got more to say on that when we actually look at team orders. Get ready for that one, folks. Oh, no.

But, yeah, you know, signs, and he, let's face it, he choked. When Vastappen was directly behind him, he choked when he went off going into just out of Beckett's. So, yeah, this was far. I don't even think this is in Carlos Sines's top 20 races. his career. I mean, I haven't got a list, but I would not be surprised if I put them all out in front of me or 150 of them. Would I put this in his top 20 performances? Possibly not. It's certainly not top five or top 10. And I think there were far better drivers out there today. But yeah, maybe the result itself, the performance is one thing, but the result itself,

maybe that's the confidence boost he needs. I'll let you folks have just a minute or two to compose yourself before I say a few more things about Ferrari strategy. We'll get to that right after this. You know what? I'm not going to go first on this. I can't go first on this. Harry, Ferrari strategy. We know that they finally broke the streak of Red Bull victories,

but they did so without two cars on the podium when they were frequently running first and second, they ended up first and fourth. What did you make of the way Ferrari played it? Firstly, from a fan spectator point of view, enjoyed it, enjoyed that. They let them fight for the most part.

But for most of it, they let those two fight. And even at the restart, well, I know they tried to say don't do it, but Carlos was like, no. But yeah, even at the restart, it was still nice to see them fighting. But from a strategic point of view, awful. What, like, what are you doing, lads?

I've already said, I think if they'd let, Lecler go earlier. He would have been far enough ahead of of signs that they would have had that gap and I think under the safety car they'd have been able to

double stack them and both be out in front of Hamilton with both with soft tires on and we saw, I know it was fraught but we saw that signs had the measure on Hamilton in the end on those soft tires so yeah

another blunder and you think Lecler not been on the podium since Miami, which seems a bit incredible. And on a day when Vastappan has a wounded car and is fighting off Mick Schumacher and a house for eighth place, I mean, obviously Voslav and finished seventh, he's only like lost six points or something to LeClaire, which is ridiculous because this was such a big opportunity for Ferrari to smash home a 25 point win for LeClaire.

And I don't want to take it away from signs, but from a championship point of view, Lecler is the one who's leading. So at this point in the season, you've got to start prioritising your driver. And when your main competitor is having a duff race, you've got to make sure you bring home the bacon. And they didn't, again, because Ferrari things. And to be fair, their pit stops, pretty good.

Strategy, terrible. So good work, Ferrari. Once again, I will leave out to other boys to have a rant. maybe Sam's going to be more complimentary. I don't know. He is, after all, the tumble dryer of mystery. Sam, what did you make of the strategic choices from Ferrari? That's correct. I can't believe if you've just doxed me on live air. You've just given away my real name, the tumble dryer of mystery. That's appalling. No, I will not be more complimentary. apart from the Fang spectacle, which again, as Harry mentioned, was fantastic to watch.

This Silverstone Grand Prix, partially because of the confusion at Ferrari, was by far the most excited Grand Prix of the whole season. It absolutely delivered. But Formula One is a cutthroat business. It is one of the most cutthroat, hardcore sports you can get

in terms of competitiveness, but also in terms of as a business. How do you guarantee success where you need to cut all of the waste? you need to get exactly what you need and run with it. And throughout history, we look at how Mercedes had been so dominant over the last eight years, right? Every time that Bottas was in the way that Hamilton was in a winning position, get out of the way, Valtry, and he moved. Nico did the same thing when they were in the early days, apart from 2016, and that was a bit hairy.

And we saw the same with Red Bull when they suddenly had the opportunity, right? Checo Perez, slams on the brakes, pulls back Hamilton, Max and Stap and Sammy has a chance to win the championship. you know where your drivers stand, you know how to deploy them, you know where your orders come from. And Ferrari historically are the most comfortable with team orders. You throw your head back to, you know, Felipe, baby, Fernando is faster than you, or even further back than that, when you have Michael Schumacher rumors of Barakello. At one point, they arranged your bloody photo finish just because they wanted to put it together. That was all team orders coordinated. They've done so much at Ferrari with team orders. And now, what are you doing? You're confusing yourself,

you're tripping over yourself and this is a slam dunk Max and Staffen can barely bring it home in the points Sergio Perez at one point was sat in 15th place and you are sat there having a bloody barney with each other out front of over oh you go faster oh you go let me pass please

oh no you keep going what's going on what a faff at one point Hamilton was about six seconds behind these two and LeCle with a damaged car is charging at Carlos Sites closing the gap that is your point where you go Lecler is the one fighting for the championship right now the staff on is wounded

swap over now or we'll bring you in we'll stop you early and Hamilton closes the gap by another second okay you can still do it make the change Hamilton closed by another second Hamilton closed by another second Hamilton closed by another second the gap is two seconds

by the time you eventually get one of them into the pit lane it's a farce it's a joke how do you think you're going to win a championship over Red Bull who okay they don't seem to have the reliability at hand at the moment, but they're so polished. They're so well put together. They're so well-oiled as a team. And you, Ferrari, are gifted this golden opportunity for a

one-two. And you throw it away. Harry's exactly right. If you let LeCler through first time of asking, he had the pace over Carlos Sainz. Even if it was only a four or five second gap to science, that's enough when the safety car comes around to bring them both in, to double stack, get you both out on soft tires, and get you in front of Hamilton. But you throw it away. This is comically bad. And this is why Ferrari have not won a championship since Kimi Reichenen all those years ago. It's hilarious.

Bois. Yeah. Kimi Riking with the Bois. It's a shocker. And this is just, when we say Ferrari Meltdown, when we say Ferrari things, this is almost like a postcard of how this happens. It's a joke at this point. And thank you, Philando.

And they need to, they need to sort out. They need to guaranteeing out who's the first driver, second driver, and then you're sort of it out, because that's how he said, there was about a six-point swing in the favour of Leclerre. That's ridiculous. That is an absolute shock when your driver is setting fastest laps of the race multiple times and fighting for the wing. They threw it away.

They absolutely threw it away. They can have easy if I've won two. Hamilton did brilliantly because car is still clearly not up to scratch over a full race distance against Ferrari. They threw it away. Now I'm scared for the listeners because Ben is about to go. Brace yourselves, folks. Might go make a cup of coffee to be fair.

No, I have been Chris. Look, I have been critical about Ferrari plenty of times in the past, and plenty might not be quite exaggerating the point enough. I understand that. But even for their standards, I didn't think they'd mess this up. Even by Ferrari standards, I thought they'll figure this out. But once again, once again, the Ferrari team have revealed the fact that they have the strategic understanding of a cheese sandwich.

I do not understand how you can get it so wrong. They were gifted this on a silver platter at a time where we have mentioned they desperately need a win. They desperately need a win. Red Bull are on a streak

that is longer in terms of wins than at any point in about 10 years. They had a winning street last year that lasted, I think, five races. they're beyond that now or they were beyond that. So it is crucial that when you're given the opportunity, you somehow take advantage of that. And somehow they didn't.

When you've got two rival drivers, both of which are affected by issues, one of which is just completely out of the fight, the other one is put down to basically last place. You can't ask for a better scenario at the British Grand Prix. and even early on that it was clear that it wasn't going to go well because before Vastappan had the issues, you know how we've mentioned before in previous years, how Vestappen was often in this one-person fight up against two Mercedes, and we were always like, Red Bull, they're always in this

two-on-one scenario and it's difficult because when you've got two drivers in the fight rather than one, it's really difficult. But Ferrari have somehow reversed that so that they have the disadvantage by having one more driver in the fight. I don't, I don't, if you have another driver in that three-person fight, you can use that to your advantage. Nope, apparently not. So I, look, they should have let LeClaude go. And you're right to have to bring up recent events, certainly, in terms of Bottas and

Hamilton and Perez and Vestappen. But really, just compare this to the Ferrari of old. Just compare it to say this happened 20 years ago, right? 2002. Are you telling me that they would play this situation exactly the same way in terms of Barrichello and Schumacher? No, they would tell Barrichello get the beep out of the way so Schumacher can go on and win this race, right? And that's what they should have done here as well. The old Ferrari was cut throat. Was it brutal sometimes?

Yes. Did it work? You damn right, it did. because they won championships year after year. They don't win championships anymore. And it's bad for F1 because we have to deal with one of the two championship protagonists

being these morons who have to... Honestly, does anyone think they're going to beat Red Bull and they make decisions like this? I don't know. It was so... That sort of cut-throat culture of Ferrari...

It just needs to return because they would have said, LeClair, go past signs. Lecler would have built the gap. You're right, Harry. They probably would have had enough time to make that decision in terms of the double stack. Really, though, it was a really easy choice. Even if your second driver loses time, you can't leave a guy out stranded on hard tires. Come on. It's so simple. It's so simple. Even if after that first stuff, so they didn't swap them before the first stop. They just box signs. But when LeCler comes out again behind signs

But it's clearly quicker Then at least you do this one For crying out now It's like it's like arranging a street fight And rebel are like right Who do we send out for this street fight Oh Dwayne the Rock Jompson He's free right let's get him out

He's a big guy And Ferrari like who have we got And Barney walks out right It's like Barney the Dinosaur versus Dwayne the Rock Jonson That is how comically Idiotic they are performing I was really interested to see

whether you're going down Barney the dinosaur route or Barney Gumble and I don't know whether I'm disappointed or delighted by that. Both equally. I don't know. But yeah, you're right. You can see like the seconds count down like the gap from Hamilton's like five seconds. Okay, fine. Well now it's four and a half.

Okay. Four. Three. It's like, no. Not going to do anything yet. Sure. It was the funniest part for me was at the pit stop where clearly they made the error by leaving Lecler out. But they weren't the only ones, right? Norris made, McLaren made the same error for Lano Norris.

They left him out. But you know what McClaren did? They realized, you know what, guys? We've messed up here, haven't we? We've really messed up here. Let's pit in the second time around. And he lost one place, which isn't ideal, but you lose two points. Ferrari, we're like, no, we're sticking with it.

We're stupid and we're going to stick with our stupidity. Look, for someone who, let's face it, enjoys the odd Ferrari race, You're making life too easy for me, Scooteria. Can you make it a bit more difficult for guys like me to have a go? Come on. Yeah, they weren't very good at the F-1 today. Classic. I mean, yeah, that's been the story for a few years now.

A bit tired now. Let's have a nap, shall we come back after a nap? We're going to have a nap. Nap time, folks. We'll be back after this. We've got bold predictions to review. We've got Driver of the Day, Worst Driver of the Day. they're all coming up.

We're still got things to discuss regarding Perez and Hamilton too. Stick around. Bold predictions. How well did they go? Sam, what was your bold prediction? Well, I said that Mercedes would get a one-two and one of those drivers

did appear to not be in the race anymore after the first corner. So the other one also did a wing so it really didn't go my way. In fairness, they didn't leave you hanging on that. Like, you were wrong, but you were wrong. They ripped the band. They ripped the banding off.

I can appreciate that. Harry, what was your bowl prediction? Alonzo Podian, mate, which, you know, at one point... He left you on the age, the entire race. He was leaving me hanging. I thought magic was going to come through, but sadly, alas, it was close. It was fifth, so he's close. A good effort, but no cigar on that one.

I said that four teams would make up the top four positions in qualifying, which of course led to a Ferrari Red Bull, Ferrari Red Bull. The annoying thing is... The annoying thing is, the conditions were way worse than we thought they were going to be when we made the preview, which would have made me more confident about that prediction, and it was still them in unison.

So, yeah. If anyone was keeping track there, that is zero out of three. Wang all for the season, everyone. Scleri won all for the whole season. It's all to play for. Yep, just to make people aware, we have collectively made 30 bold predictions so far this year, and we have one right each. When we say don't listen to us, we really mean it.

Don't listen to us. Driver of the day, who have you got, Harry? I find this one slightly tricky, because everyone had like slightly troublesome, slightly troublesome races. I guess the one that I'm going to have to give it to, British Biersriff coming in strong here, but Lewis Hamilton, I think out of all of them, he was probably mistake-free. And the only thing really that let him down was,

his car's not quick enough. But yeah, he was just on it all race. As usual, his race craft was pretty sublime in that battle with the entire field, it felt like at one stage. But yeah, I'm going to give it to Hamilton. Sam, your driver of the day? I'm going to be really boring and I'm going to actually completely agree with Harry.

Hamilton was the only person that didn't make a single issue. British bias is here, folks. The Brexit boys are here to play. And the fact that he even got mugged off by the red flag where he managed to have a sublime start, get straight up to third, and then had to do it all over again and still finished third. In a car that, yes, it had outbreaks,

but it's still slower than that Redwood, still on that Ferrari. It was fantastic. And I don't know if it's the home crowd of Arthur. Thank you, Dr. Gange. Or if the car is working, he just felt confident now they're not experimenting with setups. But he was spectacular. He was absolutely brilliant.

And I'm a bit gutting. It didn't play out from right at the end there. But he was brilliant. Hamilton was brilliant. I don't think he was faultless in that I think he should have made more of an effort. Well, I'm not saying he didn't put the effort in. But the tri-hardo, mate. The last stage of the Grand Prix where he had a pretty poor restart.

but maybe he could have troubled Carlos signs if he gets past Leclair quicker than he does. I think he got, I don't know, he got trapped in that battle a little bit. And yes, it was unlucky because he wouldn't have even needed to contend with the likes of Perez if the safety card didn't come out. But I'm not saying it was a poor race, by the way.

I think he was brilliant as well. But I'm actually going to Claire. I think he was utterly robbed. I mean, the man did crash straight into someone. But yeah, sure. He made the move stick. That's how that works. That's how we roll.

You can hit someone as hard as you want, but as long as it sticks. To be fair, I'll double back on my Hamilton didn't make any mistakes because also on the, when he did Perez and signs, and then two corners later just left the door open. He did.

Perez slid up the inside. I was like, oh, that was a done deal, Hamilton, mate. You should have, should have let that one, or should have fought that one a bit more. but anyway, I'll still keep him as driver today. Regardless of the results, though, seeing purple fastest lap, the icon go next to Hamilton's name a couple of times over,

it was, yeah, I'm sure encouraging from Mercedes point of view and a bit of a throwback for us in a phone. Worst driver of the day, who've got, Harry? Hall of Famer, sorry, mate. He backed himself into his teammate. We went to a replay and then we came back, both albert there was a yellow flag being cleared and both albertarians had dropped to like collapsed um don't yuki mate well done on breaking early for once but don't uh spin into your

teammate another good top tip from the lb boys hang on let me write that one down was that repeat that don't spin it to your team mate right that's going as a quote on instagram later fantastic Who was your worst driver of the day, Sam? So I also had all a failure, but just somewhat a copy and pace of Harry, just because we're sacked at to each other. I'm going to give it to my favourite worst driver of the day, according to the Discord, it's Daniel Ricardo. I do think actually, Sagania was probably worse.

But when your team mate is up there fighting for a podium at the end of the race, it has been in the top five or six. The whole race, unmatched by most people, was able to stay off all the fight behind, Landau doing a brilliant job, and Danny Rick finishes behind Nicholas Latifi and many others, and there's only one car behind him, who is Yuki Sanoda after six of the cars drop out the race. It really hasn't been a great weekend for Daniel Ricardo. This was a real shocker for the Aussie, not the birthday present I'm sure he would have wanted.

Danny Ricardo, worst row of the day. ordinarily I do my utmost to get down to one name but being able to not give it to these two drivers means the other one gets off the hook and I can't do that so for what could be the first time ever I'm giving this as a two-way tie between the two drivers that you mentioned because for the reasons that you both gave I can't not pick both of them they were both I don't know ricardo was nowhere all weekend it's not as even if it was just the race practice qualifying he was nowhere. It was really worrying from his side. And Sonoda, I think your top tip is spot on, Harry. Don't crash into your team, mate. And he did. So, yeah, I think in a race of attrition,

where Alfa Tauri definitely could have benefited. They're a bit short on points versus previous seasons. This was the sort of race they could have got it done. And they sported it for themselves. So, yeah, Sonoda and Ricardo. So Noda was quite impressive with the way he crashed into his teammates He managed to like full on back-end it into his you know It was a cool takedown if you had done that in a video game You probably get a slow-mo take down message But this isn't a video game and that's going to cost a lot of money

And I think Franks Toast is probably going to be very angry Can he be angry? Like is that in his emotional sort of range is so nice lovely French taste that's a France toss for anyone wondering before we go on to a few submissions

from our Discord in terms of the day and worst driver of the day we'll give out a moment of the race what was yours sorry um oh tough one I really really enjoyed

the Le Claire Hamilton and battle all of that was lovely little around the outside of cops was sensational stuff. But I'm going to have to give it to when they're doing the National Anthem and there was a child who hadn't took a taking his hat off. So neat. And then he looked the other way.

And then obviously someone's like, take your hat off. You're on camera. And he's like, oh God. Made it for me. So that's my moment of the race. So niche. I love it. Sam, what was your moment of the race?

It's not often you're getting, oh yeah, in the National Anthem either, is it? Sam Ryder on the electric guitar throwing a ghost save our gracious queen oh yeah get that he really jazzed up I'll pick something within the race and I'm going to give it to that moment that started with the Hamilton

Leclair and Perez battle where Hamilton managed to chuck it down the so I got both of them and ended with Hamilton getting the move done on LeCler almost a whole lap later the racing was harsh but I believe it was borderline I believe it was clinical, and I think it was fantastic.

It might go down as the battle of the season, and that was spectacular. It topped off what I thought was a really, really good race. It made it fantastic. Oh, and the Stappan-Schumacher fight, right, the end as well was also a lot of fun. But that battle was fat. Schumacher was playing with fire there, right?

Nick, my boy, come on the line. But that fight between the three of them, the ending with Hamilton and Claire was spectacular. If I wasn't in a choose violence mode, I probably would have gone for the Leclair battle, but I am in a choose violence mode. So my one was, again, just one last jab at Ferrari when Charles Lecler went over team radio and asked,

are we allowed to fight? Fairly simple question, you would think, are we allowed to fight? And the answer from Ferrari was, we're in the pit window of Hamilton. And what? What? They did eventually answer that question that they were allowed to fight.

But in the first instance, are we allowed to fight? We're in the pit window of Hamilton, yeah. But you say that, which is fair. They did say, yes, we're allowed to fight. Within about 30 seconds, they then came back over the radio and went, we're going to swap the cars now. So they've kind of gone, yes, fight. And then in true Ferrari style, immediately changed their mind.

They're going, this was wrong, we should swap it again, and then decided to produce team orders for the first. time in the whole race. So just brilliant execution. You really can't beat it. We'll go to some driver of the day and worst driver of the day submissions from our discord, see if they agree with us or disagree with us. We're going to start today with Jono Boy. We have two driver of the days, because first of all, we got Carlos signed with his first win. John O'Boy is happy. He's happy. Can't believe it. Secondly,

Mick Schumacher. Look at that. He almost passed Max. First points for Mick Schumacher. Let's go. Worst driver of the day. Danny Rick. What are you doing?

You just looked poor the whole race. You just looked terrible. You guys have a good day. one. We will. Thank you, John. Cheers, John. I appreciate it.

Maybe, maybe Sam, you've actually managed to get the Discord to turn on Daniel Riccardo. I'm very good at persuading them to do things. In a non-sodistic way.

Yeah, like, you know, it's normal, just Formula One related stuff. Nothing weird going on. We've got a really good name coming up next. Hey, boys, Crabby Patty here.

My driver of the day has to go to Checo for that P2. My worst driver of the day has to go to Danny Rick. I mean, four people in front of him didn't finish and he somehow only went up

one spot. I don't even know how that's possible. Another savage one. That is savage. Brutal. On the subject of Cravy Patti Patti and indeed Sponchall SquarePants, did you see the advertising for Paramount where there was, at

one point, Sponchral Square Pants was on an F1 race. This one is going to probably fly over both of your heads, but this probably won't for a lot of American fans, because we're going NFL with this. So every, like, I think there's like one race, sorry, one game in a season, or one week in a season, where Nickelodeon, like, team up with the NFL to do a game. Yeah. So plenty of slime, sponge or square pans gets involved. And I'm just wondering whether this is the future for F1.

I'd pay to see that slime on an F1 track. Get Dave Banks and Phillips to do it. Exactly. They probably say no. Oh, Dave. We'll move on to the next one. Let's move on to Callie. I don't know what just happened.

That race was insane. Everyone was going, boom, zoom, zing, boom, going past each other. He was insane. My driver of the day probably has to go to check Paris. I don't know. Science was his first window. I don't know. We're going to give it to the Mexican and the Spanish drivers. It's insane. What a race. I'm not giving you my worst driver the day because it was my favorite driver and we all know who it is. I'm probably going to hear it in an entire podcast,

but see you later. Love you guys. Bye. Love you today. Cheers, Callie. May I introduce you to the concept of breathing. It's very underrated. Let's go to Electric Eccentric for this. this one. Right. So my driver of the day for what was surely the best Grand Prix of the year so far, I mean, what a race that was. I couldn't decide between signs, Hamilton or Perez, all for their outstanding drives and overtaking moves from signs. So I'm going to give it to Mick Schumacher for finally getting his first F1 points after what seems like two years. And for the worst driver of the day, once again, it has to go to the Ferrari strategy. What were they doing, not petting

not even petting Leclair underneath the safety car absolute bonkers I did love the pronunciation of Ferrari in that that's that strong I don't know why they aren't petting them Hey come on now Come on Being nice come on northern neighbours

I'm joking I'm from Cornwall so I got no leg to stand on Oh you have a trap for it's good mate Alright Come on Arvester and all Right we've got two more submissions This one's a fairly short one, but it's a favourite of ours. We're going to Skyla.

Hello, people. Lewis Hamilton is my driver of the day, simply because he went, Neal. Short, sweet, love it. Love it. Love it, Skyla. Neal. Can't argue with that logic, to be honest. No, not at all.

And our last one today, we'll go to Cheyenne. Oh my goodness gracious. This race, it's so stressful. Driver of the day, it's really hard. Signs with his first win, that was just amazing. Perez with his amazing recovery. I'm going to give it to Charles Leclair. I know that's different, but I feel like he did a really good job defending from Hammy.

And it's just, he did a good job. And if it wasn't for the strategist and the safety car and stuff, I think he would have won. Worst the driver of the day I'm going to give it to Daniel Ricardo I'm sorry but Landau was way ahead of him and he just did not have the pace this race and he hasn't had it this whole season

and it hurts me to say but yes Daniel for worse forever this break sure you've converted the discord well done some speaking of the community we've had a gentleman the boys are I'm doing this by the way we've had a gentleman

Oh, God, that's what good. No, we don't improvise, ever. I'm going off script. On Instagram, every single race, we've had a lovely gentleman, I'm going to book your name, I'm sorry, called Claws, who does a race-related meal. And it always looks really yummy, and bless him.

He has his late-breaking mug, every single race. And I just want to, as we're doing a community moment, I just want to shout him out. I've shared it on our story, go and have a look at how good. on Instagram, his fry up here's. Because he's not British, so he's not in the UK having one. It looks lovely, and he does a lovely job.

And I love the idea of making a meal based on every race. So just want to give a little shout out. He deserves it. Absolutely. Seeing what he comes up with every race is always a bit of an interesting one for us. And you're right. It's impressive what he's been able to do that. We've got a couple more segments coming up.

We're going to be talking Sergio Perez right after this. So Sergio, P.O. Perez probably wasn't thinking P2 was on the cards, somewhat in the early parts of that race, involved in an incident, had some damage, had to go into the pits and came out somewhere around 15th or so. I don't remember, folks. It was quite far down. But he managed to make his way back up in very impressive fashion and ultimately the safety car pulled him back out in a little a bit more, and he was able to claim P2 behind Carlos Sines at the end. So it's a two-parter, Sam. You'll like that of this question. The first part, how impressed were you by his comeback?

And secondly, do you think that there was a penalty in there for his late race antics? So, yeah, I love a two-parter. We'll start off with the talk about the comeback. I was not impressed, quite frankly. Maybe I'm just being a bit, maybe I'm being a bit cynical ben. here. But I do feel like, with the pace that that Red Bull is able to deliver, what we've been able to see, you know, the way that Bostappen before his incidents occurred was keeping up comfortable with the Ferraris, I feel like Paration could cut through the traffic a bit faster. You know, he got a restart. The track had spread quite quickly. The fact that when the Stafford first pitted, he managed to come out, I think in the top five again after he had that initial issue where he thought he had a puncturing, his tyres weren't lovely anymore.

the Red Bull had a lot of pace and Perez I thought was going to be back up the grid a lot faster we've seen it from top runners in previous years and we've seen it from Max as well in the Red Bull

I thought that Perez would have been back in town the top five, top six before the safety car was going to arrive he wasn't I think he got gifted a very strong finishing position

because of the safety car no safety car I don't think he gets anywhere near a podium finish I don't think even challenges the top five or six I think Alonso, I think Norris was still in the fight. Of course, you still had LeCleur, Hamilton and the science well out in front of that group.

I do think it was made to look a lot better for him than what his result maybe would have suggested. Now, with the antics at the end, I think both Red Bulls were guilty of this. We've had a lot of discussions over the last couple of years about leaving one car's width when you're having a battle. Now, Perez did the same move on Lecler, he forced him wide, I think in the club section of Silverstone and then Bostappan digging it twice to Schumacher in the battle right at the end on the same corner right off the track and then also into Brooklings. The Stappan properly shut the door, pushing Schumacher off the track again. There was no investigation, no comment made, not even noted by the race director, which

you like to do a lot this Grand Prix, like to note things down. Nothing really happened with those notes. And I do feel like they should be challenged. I feel like you should be giving at least a black and white, if not a five second penalty. you have to leave a car's width on the track. And Perez didn't do that for LeClaire, and Mustafa didn't do that for Schumacher, and there's no repercussion for it.

No one seemed to challenge it either, which was a bit interesting. Maybe we're just not hearing those radios. I don't know if those watching on F1 TV on board with the drivers, heard those radios, and we just weren't broadcast them. But you never seem to hear any complaints

and they never seem to be taking any action. And I disagree with that. I do feel like the moves were penalty-worthy. I know that maybe sounds a little harsh, but you shut the door on them. And we've had penalties given for it beforehand. And that word consistency comes into play once again with the race directors. I am all for harsh racing. I am all for rough, you know, right on the line racing.

I love that. I love that close defending. But I think they overstep the mark a little bit. And I do feel like you have to make sure your opponent, when they're alongside you, you deserve some space on the track. And I don't think they were given that. So, yeah, I think a penalty for both red ball drivers will be a fair court. my opinion.

Harry, you're usually a little more liberal about these penalties. You're a bit more of a NASCAR fan, probably than me and Sam. You just think anything goes on a race track. So do you think there should have been a penalty? No, I don't really care. There you go. I don't care. I can absolutely see the reasoning behind it, but

I was fine with all of them. Probably the one that I would start to get a bit dodgy about was for Stap and Schumacher won, going into Brooklyn, or out of Brooklyn's, I guess, at that point. But yeah, the rest of it, I was fine. The Perez, the Perez ones in particular, I was okay. It was getting towards ball aligned, but I was fine with it, but don't at me, folks.

At him, I don't care. At Harry Ead, come on. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I enjoyed it. So in my books, that works. So that's fine. Is that a good enough answer? Yeah, go for it.

Why not? I'm going to get a better one, am I? In terms of the comeback, what did you think of Paris? Oh, yeah. Sorry, I forgot about the other part. Oh, we don't do too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fine.

It was, it was, he was as was, I think, more so than science, to be honest, really benefited by the safety car. It was, it was a fine comeback. To be honest, I don't know whether if he could have got much further up the grid. We didn't really see much of his progress, to be honest. He came out and then he sort of picked drivers off one by one. But his pace wasn't exactly electric, I don't think. So it was fine. I think, look, for Red Bull, that's exactly what they needed him to do.

And I think the second place was a pretty lucky one. But from where he was, anyway, I think he picked up the pieces as best as he could. I can't even remember now how he lost his. His end plate. Was that in the same tusser with LeClaire at the start? Or was that something else? I thought it was that one. You remember? Should have been your key takeaways, mate.

Oh, I did enough. Leave me alone. Yeah, well, we all know Latifie lost the points on lap 33. So that's all that matters when it comes to takeaways. That's important. I can't Ben and never believe that I guessed that. No. I did genuinely.

Of course, I genuinely believe you guessed it. I'm just, I'm playing a character on this podcast. It's all it is. You sucker. Yeah. Yeah, I thought Perez's comeback was all right. I'm being a bit of a bit of Harry-ead about this, to be honest. It's fine.

Well, I don't think it was much better than fine. I don't think it was much worse than fine. Yeah, he took off all the... The one thing I will give him credit for is that there was an enormous DRS train in the midfield. It's not as if he actually had an easy job to pick them off one by one, because I'm pretty sure nearly every car he needed to pick off in the midfield had DRS on the car in front.

So he had to almost break that train, which is very difficult to do, even in a dominant car. It's not like he was three seconds, take on this guy, three seconds, take on this guy, which would have been far easier for him to do. So I'll give him credit for that.

You know, the likes of Ghazli and Ockon and, you know, they did a good job of creating that DRS train for everyone behind. Similar to what Nicholas Latifie did, who had a, for the route, I haven't said it yet, Latifie, very good job out there.

But what? I mean, go to TV. Well, exactly. Up until lap 33. Even that. People were thinking he was going to fall out of the points in the first sort of 10 laps and he didn't. So realistically, what Williams did this weekend, and I can't believe a word out for them.

They just built their car as quick as they could in a straight line and just didn't think about anything else. And because of what happened in Qualifying, that kind of worked. Not enough to get points, but I'm off on a tangent anyway. What was the original question? Perez. Yeah. So I think he did a good enough job fighting back through the field. Yeah, you're right.

Safety car meant that he was far closer to the front guys than he had any right to be. But even if he'd finished, say, P4 and this, I think that was probably satisfactory based on where he went down to. And I think he did a good job at the end as well. I'll talk about the incident to the second. But I think he did a good job to escape that battle quicker than Hamilton could. certainly he was somewhat vulnerable to Hamilton and you know, he was able to dispose of Lecler quicker. How he did it is a bit questionable, but he did it, you know.

So he got the job done. I am with Sam on this one as I usually am when it comes to sort of racing incidents that I think you should always give one car's width either side of you, regardless of whether you're defending the inside or the outside, you need to leave the space. And he didn't. and I do think that they should be penalized when they don't do when they don't leave the space. And you could say, well, we'd end up with a sport that's so littered with penalties here

there and everywhere that it wouldn't be enjoyable, to which I would say, if the drivers knew they weren't going to, they were going to be penalized for it, they wouldn't do it. So you wouldn't have races that have penalty after penalty because the drivers would wise up and know isn't to my advantage to actually do this in the first place. So they wouldn't go ahead and do it. I can't blame the likes of Perez and Vestappen or anyone else not leaving room if they don't get penalised for it. If you aren't going to get penalised for it, they've got the right strategy because they're able to benefit from doing it. So it's all on the stewards.

If you don't penalise it, then the drivers should take advantage of it as much as they possibly can. They shouldn't be allowed to though. And I think there should be penalties applied for that sort of thing. Let's move on to Lewis Hamilton, should we? Because if you haven't been paying attention, folks, Mercedes have not had the ideal season so far. And Lewis Hamilton has struggled to get on the podium so far this year, only doing it on a couple of occasions. But he did finish P3 here today. There were times where it was looking like it might be even better than that.

Maybe P2, maybe even fighting for the win versus the Ferraris. what did you make of the of the weekend, Sam, for Lewis Hamilton? I think this shows what confidence could do for a driver, right? He got that podium in Canada, and I think that's kind of spurred him on. They're no longer running these extreme and strange setups. I think he's found confidence with the new car, the new era of the car. I feel like he struggled to settling a little bit to the new era of the car. And I feel like now he's in a little bit of a groove.

And there's new upgrades that came to the car as well for Silverstone, which of course helped him. And, you know, it's a bit funny to keep referencing it, but Dr. Gnage does say that the heightened crowd gives you half second advantage. It felt evident today, right? Lando Norris was well ahead of Daniel Ricardo. Now, Ricardo wasn't very good, but Norris was very good. And Lewis Hamilton was exceptional.

Do I think he could have gone to win this race? I feel like more circumstances who have had to continue going his way. I don't feel like it was ever going to be 100% in his hands, whether he would or wouldn't win that. race. I just don't think the Mercedes is skill up to the pace of the Red Bull or the Ferrari. Like when the safety car came out, I said immediately Perez will now be a bigger threat to the race wing than what Hamilton is.

Because on fresh tires, I think Perez has got more than enough of a car underneath him to get past Hamilton and escape. And I think that Perez in that Red Bull is better than what science can be. And I think if that was closer, Perez might have gone to win that race. I think Hamilton did absolutely everything he could to go. His first start before the Red flag was exceptional. when he got off the line the second time it wasn't as good. He actually fell behind Norris,

but then managed to recover brilliantly, got the move done. His fight with Leclerc was exceptional. The move around the outside of the whole Brooklyn section was fantastic, and then their will-to-will battle through cops, and then the overtake down the, was it through Stowe or was it something like that? It was fantastic.

I think he was exceptional. I think he was brilliant. I don't think he was ever going to win that race, sorry, on pure pace alone. I don't think it was ever within his grasp to take victory without there being some kind of out of control circumstance that would fall into his lap a little bit. Unfortunately, I just don't think the Mesaegis is there

to beat the Ferrari at the moment one-on-one when it comes down a pace. So he took every advantage he got, and I think he got a brilliant result for it, but I don't think the race win was ever truly on for him. Was a win on the cards for Hamilton, Harry? I think at some point it was. I think once Ferrari realized that they had to let Leclair go, I think it got trickier because I think, you know,

you could see Hamilton closing in on signs, but as every time he closed in on signs, Leclair was putting another gap. So that gap between Leclair and Hamilton never really changed. And then obviously we had the safety car. Again, obviously there's always opportunity at a safety car. But like you said earlier, Ben, I think he got embroiled in that battle just slightly too long.

And then, you know, signs. and then obviously Perez took off down the road, so he didn't have a chance to catch him. But yeah, look, there were glimpses today, and his pace, I guess in comparison to signs, was fairly impressive because he was catching those Ferraris quickly, but it was clear that LeCla could go quicker. His pace was impressive, but yeah,

it's just maybe not quite enough. But if a couple of situations are gone differently, luck had gone his way, then, yeah, I think he had every chance of winning. but yeah, it just wasn't to be. But it's the closest he's looked like all year. I think if you were to give Hamilton, keep exactly the same spot, the same race,

but give him either the Ferrari or the Red Bull, I think Hamilton will have won that race. I simply think it was the Mercedes not having that end of raw pace to put him on a level playing field with the Ferraris and the Red Bulls here. Put Nick Latifie in a Ferrari race. Don't be silly, don't be silly.

Probably would have won it, wouldn't he? You're giving it a good shot. you got close to the race win than Russell did. So, you know, maybe it would have worked for him. I disagree. I thought the Merck had it. I thought they could have won this race, possibly should have won this race. I think pace-wise, I do think, not generally, but at least at this Grand Prix,

I think Mercedes were on a level playing field with definitely Ferrari. I don't know, Red Bull's tougher to say, but I think they had it. And I actually think without the safety car, he would have had a chance. I'm not quite sure degradation-wise whether the heart was degrading enough for Hamilton to catch onto the back. But ultimately, we know that after he overtook Lano Norris, there was approximately a five-second gap between Hamilton and the front guys. I know Ferrari fighting didn't help this, but that only decreased in the first stint.

and suddenly there was this realistic opportunity that an undercut might be on the cards. Now, ultimately, they went overcut, but the safety car came out before really that advantage in terms of tire life could be brought out by Hamilton. So I think he would have caught back up to the back of the Ferraris if the safety car didn't appear. Whether he would have got the overtake done, that's another question. But ultimately, I think being involved in that fight with Norris at the start, having a worse grid position, I think that's probably what cost him more than his pure paste did. I think he was very quick out there. But yeah, I actually think Mercedes got the strategy wrong here

because I think they should have gone on to the soft tires. I really don't think they should have messed around with the hard tires. I agree. So when this seemed like an opportunity, Oconn, I think, went longest on the soft tires on the first in. And it's not as if they fell off or anything. I think he was competitive all the way throughout his stint. I think he did 21, 22 laps on the softs.

So realistically, as soon as it got to about lap 30 or so, 32, that's where the soft tires were definitely an option. And Hamilton, I can't remember the exact lap that he pitted on, but it was after that. He was definitely, it was definitely doable to go on the soft tires. And we know what happened. We can literally see what happened at the end of the Grand Prix, where LeClau is on hard tires,

everyone else is on soft tires. what happened to Leclair? He ended up P4. And quite honestly, I think he fought like a god to even stay P4. So, you know, I don't think they should have messed around with the hard tires. I think they should have gone straight onto the soft tires. And at that point, it's all if but some maybe, is because the safety car came out, ultimately. I think Hamilton wins that race if he goes on the soft tires.

Would he have won the race anyway? I'm going to say no. But I don't think it was out of the question. Regardless, regardless of whether he would have. one or not. The fact that we can even have this debate, Mercedes has got to look at that. That's pretty encouraging. At least versus what they've had so far. So they just need to race, only race at circuits. No streets, no street circuits. Yeah.

Just silverstone every single. It's promising though. It's what we want. We want three teams every single race, challenging possibly for a wing. It's nice to have them there. If Russell was, I think Russell would have been kicking himself because I really think he could have been right on the back of Hamilton for the whole race and they will have had the two cars. So, the fact that we're 10 races in and the sayings are they're getting closer is promising you never know by the end of the season start of the next season we may have three teams all on a level playing field I appreciate as well degradation was a bit of a question mark because we didn't get a great deal of running for FP1 and FP2 but I tell you what with the red flag

the the no stop strategy I think was on the cut I think you could have gone hard tires from that pit stop, from the red flag to the end. We saw what Vettel did. Vettel pit very early on and he wasn't losing spots. He only obviously came in because he needed to. But I don't know. I think a few of these teams might be kicking themselves because I don't think anyone properly nailed the strategy out there today.

You all suck F1 teams. Yeah. Yeah, you do. You know what? There's certain things, mate. We try to get into the industry, right? We want companies and people to invite us out, right? You've bulls did up.

You're just saying everyone sucks. I would love to be invited to a race by anyone, and you've just said they all suck for crying out loud. Don't be invited by the ones that suck, so we're not going. If you'd like to sports on my new company late driving, then I will come out to races. Harry, you can not be a part of it. Speaking of F1 and, you know, generally sucking,

what was the camera direction about in qualifying? Oh, God, don't get me started, Ben. I was furious on it. Being back in Monaco again. Apparently, LeCler has like a bloody spin and it down on full 360 and made it look like he was in a movie with the way he caught it.

I literally saw it on Twitter. Ridiculous. They put the graphic up for Carlos Science Poll position before everyone had finished their laps. And look, some cars have more, you know... Potential. Potential.

Yeah, good word. To get poll. But when it's in the wet, anyone could get poll. At one point, Joe Gwain knew he went three seconds faster than anyone. Hamilton was still going around. Exactly. Why?

I'm actually going to pop it. That's not even the point. It doesn't matter if they don't have a shot at pole. Even if they've only got a shot at P5, does that not matter? The grid spots all matter from one down to 20. Yeah, if they've got a chance at pole position, definitely. But if they've got a chance at moving up a couple of spots and taking P4 away or whatever, that's enough of...

Because what's the alternative? Garage shot. come on yeah it was terrible I don't know what happened there yeah get it together after one maybe Monaco were like hey Silverstone do you fancy a day off

we'll do your camera direction for you because it was that level of bad last last point from us because obviously the first attempt at the British Grand Prix was red flagged the delayed start obviously incurred after that

a crash involving, well, two crashes technically, involving Albon, Vettel, Pierre Gasly, George Russell, and most significantly, Joe Guan Yu, who had a horrific crash going off at the first corner. They had to extract him from the car, which took a bit of time. But fortunately, Joe Guan Yu, at least as we hear it right now, absolutely fine, or at least fine enough that there's nothing life-threatening or anything like that. He's being checked over, obviously. What did you make of that one, Sam? Because it was another advert for the Halo on a weekend

that already had an advert for the Halo. The fact that he managed to turn up back at the track at the end of the race after grinding the floor with essentially his head, thank God again for the Halo and the Roll Hoop, which saved his life. He's saving a post. It saved my life. The crash was horrific.

You know, the way the gravel trap didn't help him at all, it made it much worse. He was flung over a tire barrier into a steel fence and then crushed beneath the two. If you could tick a box of all the bad things that could have happened during a crash, he probably got about eight out of ten. The only thing he didn't really get was maybe it's set on fire. You know, that was maybe the only other thing that could have happened to have made it even worse. It was a shocker. It was one of those crashes that you go, oh my God.

And we did, didn't we? We were sat there and we both went, oh my God, someone is going backwards, upside down into the barrier. The halo, I love that thing. We thought it was so ugly when it first came into Formula One. And now it's the last thing I would take away, maybe the brakes. But, you know, it's up there with the things that I will remove from the Formula One car. But the fact that you're right, we also have the F2 incident with, I think it was Gassani. hitting the sausage curve, which are also menaces of racetracks at the moment,

and almost taking their head off the other F2 driver with their front wing. Again, thank goodness for the halo. It's a feat of Formula One safety and engineering that we can have incidents like this, and in the same race period, the driver is able to get up, re-attend the race and go, I'm all right, I feel okay. I have a single broken bone. I could be ready for the next race. It might be a bit achy tomorrow,

but the guy was tweeting, the guy was conscious, he was up. I am amazed. I am so happy that we can have drivers walk away from an instant like that because 20 years ago, 10 years ago, that could have been a fatality. So it is amazing how far we've come.

And I'm grateful for it. It was brilliant to see that he was all right. Harry, a pretty scary crash, but so good to see him come out unscathed. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. And, you know, the role over hoop seemed to have failed on this, which is worrying in itself. But because the halo was there, it didn't run along the road on Joe Gwanyu's head. It rolled along the road along the road on the halo, which obviously stood up to all the impacts it suffered.

So, yeah, once again, well done, well done FIA on this one, because it's been a great implementation. to F1 cars and obviously great to see Joe Guan Yu walk away after what was, you know, after I mean, ended up pinned between the barrier and the fence. It's quite an odd one to see. So yeah, great to see him walk away. Obviously, Alex Albon was conscious and I think okay,

but he has been transferred to a trauma unit I saw earlier in Coventry Hospital. So hopefully he's not too, just, you know, too bad injury and it's just bruising. But yeah, it was a chaotic start, but obviously testament to these F1 cars that all of them are fine. Yeah, I won't add too much because you both have already said what I think on this,

in that the Halo did its job not once but twice this weekend. And obviously, you never know what the result would be without the halo, but it might well be the case that two lives were saved in one weekend of motorsport, which is more than enough of an incentive to keep it. Not that I think there's any risk of it going. but you know fantastic that it was able to do its job amazing to see that Zhou Guan Yu has managed to escape that relatively unscathed

obviously when they don't show pictures replays instantly afterwards you know that this could be potentially serious and you're kind of just waiting there until you hear the good news and it is brilliant that the good news did come about so fingers crossed for Alex Albin as well as you mentioned, Harry, but great to see that Joaquin Yu was able to walk away from this one.

You know, two incredible things. We've spoken for a hour and 15 minutes and firstly, a fun fact, the Halo, apparently, if you balance them correctly, can support the weight of three British double-decker buses, which is incredible. Secondly, extinction rebellion invaded the race

and it's not even come up as a topic to talk about because Silverstone was such a fest of entertainment that it's not even crossed my mind until this far into the podcast, I guess, yeah, I mean, pick your moments on that one, guys. It was a red flag,

so nothing happened. But thankfully, it was a red flag for everyone else because that could have been nasty. I couldn't think of a better way to say this, but I generally think

that you shouldn't invade circuits is like a really obvious rule, but the show Guan Yu crash just made it like that much more obvious, even though it was already there. Yeah, like the point's already made. But Jo Guanyu, and what happened there is just even more of an advert.

You should just stay where you need to stay. I don't know. And even more disappointing is that they didn't wait for the 20-year anniversary of the last invader at the British Grand Prix. You know, that would have been... Give it another next year. I know. You've got timed it so well.

I also just want to shout out the Northumberland police force because they tweeted saying, we're aware that there will be an invasion today. Look, this is a really dangerous thing. Please come and speak to us. We will happily facilitate you having a full protest. It's your right to protest. But please try not to do it somewhere where people could die.

You could kill the drivers, the marshals yourself. And I can think they handled that really, really well. And it's guys to see that that kind of security is being put in place with both. The people protesting, because they do have a right to protest, whether you agree with it or not, and those who are on track. I think they're handing it really well. Why are the Northumberland police? I don't know.

They're just the ones that were involved, okay? Let them do a good job. Was it not Northampton shit? Do you want to annoy anyone else? Usually I'm the last person you annoy, but it is up there today. It could have been. It could have come down from Northumberland. Trip out.

Should we leave it there, Sam? Please. I need to go home. I'm very hungry. I've been here for so long. Sam's hungry, so we're going to get out of here. Sam will do his usual plugs in just a second, but one from me before I hand over. We are doing a Discord quiz, not quite two weeks today.

It will be Saturday the 16th. One week in six days. Saturday the 16th of July. We're going to be doing an F1 quiz in our Discord. It's all multiple choice. So don't worry if you don't think you're smart enough because, well, actually, you know, we aren't smart enough either. So, you know, get involved.

It's always a good deal of fun when we're. do those. And yeah, all multiple choice. So there's no room for embarrassment, I promise you. Sam, if you wouldn't mind getting us out of here. Also, if you wing, and I remember, you might win a bit of merch because I believe we offered that last time. So if you'd like some LB merch, probably just a cap or something on those lines, then, you know, it's a free way of joining in. And the disc is lovely. Also, on the same weekend, we are planning to record, if we get around to it, our 200th episode special. We have not finalised what that topic is going to to be yet. We have discussed a Q&A episode so you can get to know us better or get to know our thoughts

on F1 topics. It can be open about anything. Us, F1, life, food, probably, hopefully food, please ask food questions, anything you want. So, you know, it might be a roast though. You can take the Mickey out of us, you can make us look stupid or it can be something else. Feel free to suggest some items. We'll maybe do a poll rule as well just to see what people fancy, but that will also be coming. So look out for that. Midweek, we're going to be reviewing the, of course, next Grand Prix. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, it's the Austrian Grand Prix next weekend, which is always, like Silverstone, a bit of a banger. So we'll be back midweek on Wednesday evening, UK time with the review or the preview podcast for the Austrian Grand Prix and, of course,

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