The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2022 Miami GP Review

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

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This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Lake Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to tune in for new episodes every Wednesday and Grand Prix Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the Lake Breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking. Round five of the 2022 season coming from Miami, the first ever Miami Grand Prix. It's in the books, and Max Verstappen took victory ahead of the two Ferraris to narrow Lecler's Championship advantage to 19 points. We've got plenty coming up for you on today's show. We are, of course,

going to be looking at the review of the race. Driver of the Day picks coming up, worst driver of the day picks. We're going to review our bold predictions from the preview episode and much, much more. But Sam, I just want to check something. It's quite late in the UK here. and of course we don't record at our homes. We have our own dedicated studio. Did you get a police escort on your way to the studio? Yes, our definitely real studio. There is a line of real London Met Police cars outside waiting for me now

and they're going to take me back home because I'm definitely not sat there with pillows around me to improve the recording quality. So thank you, police resource of the UK, money well spent to all taxpayers. Really appreciate it. I mean, yeah, the podium today. We're going to get into all sorts here, but why? Hang on.

I mean, I love it. It's a one-off. It was stupid. It was weird. I didn't need 98% of it, but actually, if America is going to America, I can kind of take it for a one-off. I kind of love it at the same time as hating it, a very strange way. A bit like my relationship with you two, really.

Yeah, I mean, fair. I mean, Matt, Matt sat on the back of that. buggy just try to just have some water and the camera was in his face and he's like, why am I sat on the back of my buggy like, lads, please, please leave me alone. I am tired. To be honest, I think honing in on the podium from this entire weekend is similar to if you were to listen to one episode of our podcasting and after listening you would go, wow, that was a bit ridiculous, wasn't it? As if every other episode isn't also ridiculous? Picking out the podium from this entire weekend of ridiculousness.

Yeah, sure. Anyway, as you say, Harry, we've got a lot to get into regarding this weekend. We'll start with Max Verstappen winning the race. It is the rule for 2022. If Max Verstappen finishes a race, he wins. The problem at the moment is he's only finishing 60% of the races. He had to get by Charler-Claher in order to do it. He also had to get by Carlos Sides,

if you remember four years back to when he overtook Carlos Sines at the very start of the race. But he did have to come under a bit of threat from Leclair due to the late safety car. So Sam, kick things off with you on this one. How impressed were you by Vestappen's ability to defend from Charles Leclair late in the Grand Prix? Look, 60% of the time he wings every time.

And I must admit, that it's good at it. Nice. I must admit that after the dire practice session that he had at the start of the weekend where he barely got any running. I think he got the least amount of laps pretty much out of anyone on track

about one or two drivers who were also struggling. He had such issues with overheating and the car just not functioning how it should. I really thought he was going to be vulnerable this weekend. And then I was reminded, oh wait, it's Max Verstappen.

He's a world champion, a multiple race winner. The guy is probably going to end up being in the goat's discussion in 10, 15 years time. He executed it brilliantly. He put on that, that mature mellow head that he's developed over the last few races

and the last season when he fought against Lewis Hamilton. Not all the time, I'm going to just prefix it. Not all the time was it mellow, but he really has developed it. And he looked really solid. Every time that the clerk threw something at him, Max had a very simple,

calm answer that allowed him to stay out in front. And I think, if I'm totally honest, as the police escort does pull away from the house, thank you guys. Are you in danger, not? it. I'm at a secret location. It's fine. Oh, I can find me. It's definitely not my house.

Yeah, I feel like he's learned how to do a Sebastian Vettel. You know, it's just kind of, I can lead, and when I'm in front, I stay in front. The guy knows how to pull away. He knows how to use those. And that Red Ball is definitely, now it's reliable, I mean, 50% at the time, after Check a Hang on Moment. it looks like it's super rapid again. And they seem to be on top of Ferrari where it counts at the moment. I mean, Bogoso came out saying, we've developed the engine,

we've got that straight line speed. But Red Bull, the Red Bull power unit, suddenly can blitz it. Even when they've got DRS with the car behind them, they're able to almost keep the gap exactly the same. So I think Max Verstappen played it

absolutely brilliantly displayed a great defense. And he executed this race wing fantastically, considering the minimal preparation. time that he had. It also seemed so physically demanding. So, yeah, really impressed. And I think he held a Charlotte Clare, who is such an intelligent driver, so well. Harry, how impressed be you by Vastappen's late defence? Because we've seen it the other way around a couple of times this year. It almost seemed like roles reversed. Yeah, it was very impressive, but they're not that surprising from Vastappen, to be fair. You know, he's had a year

last year of having to try and defend from Lewis Hamilton and likewise attack him. And I think that's really helped in his situation because he didn't even really look for a second to crack under that pressure that LeCler was throwing at him. And he was throwing at him at him hard. It was sort of rejuvenated LeClaire's race because he was seven seconds back before that safety car. And yeah, he was, he's really going for it. But yeah, I know as I mentioned Red Bull have that sort of straight line speed advantage. LeCleur was able to keep up through the twisty first sector, which is really putting him in a threatening position to retake the lead.

And Vastappen didn't really falter. So yeah, it was very impressive. And, you know, as I said, Vestappen had built up quite a substantial lead by the time that safety guy came out, that it could have easily undone his race. But he didn't let it. He fended off LeClaire for those sort of, five laps after the safety car went in

and then built up that gap again. So very impressive from Vostappan. I think LeCle and Ferrari are going to have to really knuckle down and pull something out of the bag if they want to try and, I mean, they're still leading, but if they want to try and beat Red Bull and Vestappen this year. Yeah, I think as a whole, the Vestappan performance was incredibly impressive by normal standards,

but incredibly normal by Vestappen standards. And even with him starting P3 on the grid, you always felt as if he would have that self-confidence that he would get up at least into the top two positions, if not first place, which is, of course, where he ended up. And I think the weekend as a whole, I don't necessarily think it was one of Vestappen's absolute elite performances. That's not to put it down at all.

It was absolutely great, don't get me wrong. But it's almost to say that I think that the weekend was more, showing of what Vastappen is now. And I think you're right in what you say with the experience gained versus Lewis Hamilton last year, how well it's serving him this year. I'm not sure how this weekend would have panned out two, three years ago, where he starts from P3. Does he make an over-ambitious lunge into turn one?

I know he did make a move into turn one, but it always felt under control at the start against signs. And then when he got past Leclair, again, another assertive move and having to defend from him late in the race, I agree with you completely that even when it was two, three, temp, separating the two drivers, Vestappen once or twice had to go offline just to make sure he can keep the position. I'm not going to say it was boring, it was exciting, but I did not feel any one moment that Vestappen was going to concede that lead. And part of that is due to the way that the Red Bull is set up versus the Ferrari.

That does have to be said because the Red Bull has been better in terms of strength. line speed, which of course makes it difficult to be overtaken, quite frankly. But I don't think it was just that. I also think it's just the overwhelming confidence that F1 fans generally have in Verstappen now and how much confidence he has in

himself that I didn't think it was going to happen. And three wins out of five, it's looking pretty good for him as long as that Red Bull stays reliable. A long way to go, a lot of potential pitfalls to go, but it is

looking encouraging. With that in mind, he's 19 points behind Charles Leclair, so not quite a full race victory, but it's still a sizable advantage. But given what we've seen from Vastappen's victories this year, Sam, at this point in the season, who's the favourite? I can't believe. Actually, I can believe of saying it. I do think Bostappen's a favourite, and I think it goes for a lot of reasons.

Firstly, you look at the teams, right? Red Bull, in the last decade or so, have won championships of both. kinds, of course. You remember the four-time back-to-back-wingings for Vettel and Red Bull at the start of the last decade. And then they went up against Mercedes, the ultimate powerhouse of the modern Formula One era. And with a driver at the end of the day, they came out on top. They didn't quite take the constructors, but they were there or thereabouts. You know, they were pretty strong. They were pretty solid. So when you look at the car and the package and the team that can deliver in comparison to what Ferrari had been producing over the last few years, which is

nervousness. They'll trip up over themselves. They, when it comes to, you, crunch situations, they tend to panic and get a little flustered. We heard the infamous Plan D come over, Charles Clair's radio again, this race. It's like the moment they don't lead a race, they go, oh, no, what do we do with ourselves? How do we bring this back? How do we consolidate? It's almost like they forget that sometimes, you know, picking up the next best thing can be good and you can carry that over. But they panic themselves immediately.

And that is a real sign of Ferrari's inexperience. I think over the last decade or so since Kimi Reichen won that title so many years ago and of course Schumacher before that as well and then you look at the drivers themselves Charlotte Clare is going to be I think spoken about in the history books he will be one of the best if not in the top five top ten

discussion when he retires from his career but he has not experienced a championship fight he has not experienced a car that can lead every single race He is not experienced having to be the hunted driver at the front, whereas the Stappen is almost emulating now the early signs of what Lewis Hamilton did in his Masege's career when he joined and he got given that first title winging car, the way that Hamilton grabbed it by the horns and really dictated play. The Stappen is doing the same thing.

He is grabbing the ball by the horns and he's dictating play. And he is taking advantage of every single thing going his way. So when you ask who I think is the favourite for the title, I think it's still, the Stappen who has got the number one spot on its head, despite being nearly a full race wing behind in the points with another what 19 races to go this season, that's miniscule.

And I think Verstappen more has the talent, the ability and the team behind him to close that gap rapidly. I wanted to pick up on one thing you said there, Sam, about Ferrari potentially panicking. not having been in this position versus, say, Red Bull have been. And I agree with your point. But actually, I'll look at it from the driver's perspective here because Charles LeCler, we know what happened to him at Imola

in terms of potentially not settling for a strong position, you know, going for even more than what he had. It would have been very easy for the same sort of situation to manifest itself here. It would have been very easy for Charles LeClaire to try a move on Max Verstappen late in that Grombe. that didn't pay off and it ended with a DNF for Shao Leclair or similar to Imola where he's finishing further down the top 10. And he resisted any kind of a half-hearted move or a move that might not come off.

And he stuck with the P2 and he's still got that championship lead. So that at least for me, show progress from the driver's side at least in this championship fight. And actually, and we'll talk about the track itself in a little bit, but there were a lot of errors that happened out there. So it would have been very easy for Leclair to have done something like that. I think Vastappen is the favourite for the championship. In all honesty, I would have said that before this race anyway, but I think this race probably

cements it that whilst Red Bull have that straight line advantage, it is going to be very difficult for Ferrari to take victories. They are almost forcing themselves into the position where they need to get pole positions. and second places, which is what they did this weekend. And this is proof that even that might not be enough at some of these tracks. Whilst they have that straight line speed deficit, I don't know where they're going to be able to make overtakes on the Red Bull. They might have enough pace to stay ahead.

They didn't hear, but they might do at other races. But not having the pace to overtake is worrying for me for Ferrari. And Vastappen, we've already spoken about the experience advantage and how good he is. you know, he's pretty good at the F1 if you've been paying attention. So I think Vestappen is the favourite at this point in the season,

but there is a long way to go. Harry, do you think Vestappen's win here puts it in his favour, even with that deficit of 19 points? Yeah, and it's a weird thing to say, isn't it? He is 19 points behind, but I think as long as that car holds together this year,

then I think you have to say in the form that Vestappen is in, then he is the favourite. and I think Leclair and Ferrari are starting to realize that this is going to be quite a tough, tough one for them to hold on to. I think that being said on your point, Ben, about being able to stay in front.

I think we have a couple of races coming up where if Leclair can stick it on pole, then it's got a fairly good chance of them winning the race. We've got Spain and then we've got Monaco. Sorry, guys, might not be that exciting. But anyway, for LeCla and Ferrari, this may be a good opportunity to start extending that lead again. So, yeah, here, Vastappen is the favourite, I think. But I'm not counting out Ferrari and LeClau, because that car is still good.

And we saw in, I know it was odd situation, but we saw Australia, they were easily the quickest car that we can. So there's, you know, there's no reason to say that can't happen again at other tracks this year. But, yeah, based on today and the current form of Vestappen's in, you've got to say he's the favorite. He's looking just mightily at ease with it all, isn't he? And he's been slightly flustered a couple of races. That's probably down to reliability. But I don't know, just sort of almost in a, inner calmness about him, the way he's going about his driving, that we, even last year, I think we didn't quite see so much. Like say, Ben, today he might have gone for a rash move at T1 or a lunge, say, if it was against Hamilton, he felt like he

had inferior car, but he knows his car's probably the best out there, and he's just picking his moments to make the right moves. So yeah, I'll go over Staff and do as a favourite, but it's not over until the whistle blows or the Czechos flag falls in this case. Very nice. Something you mentioned there in terms of upcoming races, this isn't necessarily one to talk about now, but it's just got me thinking with Monaco coming up. There is part of me that wonders how how Miami will impact the build and indeed the event itself in terms of the Monacoe Grand Prix, whether the shine of the glitz and glamour is taken away somewhat as a result of how much build there has been for such a crowning event, this, that side of the pond. So it's one to discuss.

I don't know if I can do it another Miami in a few weeks' time because this weekend has felt like a fever dream, to be honest. I feel almost slightly unwell after watching everything that's been going on. It's been that ridiculous. I think that's fair. You're not wrong. We'll be talking about the track itself in just a moment. Stick up. Harry, are you happy with Miami in terms of the track itself?

We'll go away from all of the festivities. We'll go away from the helmets on the podium. We'll go away from DJ Khalid on the pit walk. In terms of the track itself, how happy were you with the racing that it produced? I am relatively happy. I think there might need to be a couple of tweaks, potentially, but I think this really reminded me of the first time we went to Baku

where I think we were predicting chaos. And there wasn't really the chaos that we thought there was going to be in Baku. And the same for today. I think obviously we did have a safety car on the end with Lando, Norris, and P.A. Gassley coming together. They did get a bit saucy, not that we bloody. saw any of it because the cameraman was looking at the staff and leading Lecler around for

57 laps anyway but there was some action throughout the field today so I don't know I'm I'm relatively happy I think we'd see another race there before maybe we started making any rash changes to the circuit maybe there are bits of need

tweaking maybe with the IRS only to be slightly longer but but there seemed to be some encouraging signs there I think the the DRS zone on the final or the penult ultimate straight that then led into the pit straight. We had another DRS zone, brought a bit of action, to be honest, as did the third one.

So, yeah, it was okay. I think the first sector makes it tricky, probably the trickiest part, even with these new cars. I think they were struggling to then get the DRS for the next straight. So maybe that DRS needs to be longer, I don't know. But yeah, overall, it was okay. It wasn't a thriller. Just because we had a safety card doesn't automatically make it a great race.

I think it definitely helped spice it up. But yeah, overall, I was okay, I'm prepared to see another sample before coming to a full conclusion on that one, I think. Baku has taught us well in that respect. Sam, what did you make in Miami? I mean, I think the safety car came to its rescue a little bit. And I think that a few people, maybe in our Discord chat, folks, Discord link is in the description.

if you are interesting over 500 people talking about F1 in there, so get involved. They were kind of, you know, jiving a little bit about how, you know, you were saying this is a boring race. You were saying this isn't the most entertaining race. Well, it's a safety car. A safety car makes any race more interesting, regardless of how dull it was.

And I must admit, it wasn't a thriller. We got 40 lapsing or so, and I was sat there looking at my phone, went on to our social media. And there are some races where I'm glued to the screen. And that doesn't mean it was bad, but I think you're right, Harry, and what you said,

are very much a Baku instinct. So Baku, for me, is now one of the highlights of the season. I really get excited when we're going to Baku. It's a great race track. And the first time we went there, oh, I was a bit nervous there as well because it was a bit dull.

But there were some parts around this track that I thoroughly enjoyed that I think the drivers absolutely hated, namely the hairpin that was at the end of that DRS straight that led onto the pit straight. those cars mixed with the really slow speed and the heavy braking of that hairpin so clumsy, so many drivers were nearly hitting the wall.

Bottas did. You know, some drivers are like they're going to pit. Actually, they've just run off so wide because they don't know where to stop the car. Yuki Sanoda not being one of those, amazingly. Genuinely, that was fun. You never knew if someone was ever going to properly get it slowed down at that point.

And I enjoyed that anticipation every time it went into the corner that someone, might absolutely muck it up. But there are a few things that could be altering around the track. I hate saying it, but I do think the DRS zones could be lengthened a little bit because I want more side by side into corners. And it's really tough to judge. I'm not going to blame anyone at the Miami Grand Prix or the FIA or Liberty

for getting it slightly wrong. It's hard to gale. But you want a DRS zone to bring drivers to the point where when they hit the braking zone, they're literally next to each other. So we have a bit of a battle going into the corner. You don't want a breeze pass. but on the other side, you also don't want to be stuck behind someone because you can't get the run. So I think they do need to be altered.

And I also think that what they've done well at Miami is the mixture of danger with how close the walls are to the track. But there's also good visibility. And the runoff zones where there are some are in the right places. They're big enough that you can afford a little mistake. You can kind of get on the marbles a little bit incorrect. But you get a little bit too wrong. Bam, you're punished. You're in the wall.

That's race over. And it's a good mix of danger versus risk and reward. And I like that. I like that about Miami. But yeah, there's a couple of tweaks that I do think need to happen for when we come next year. It just produces a little bit more possible overtaking opportunities and closer racing. But it was good. We had that huge train, of course, from the Ascomarting, Sahas, Norris, who had a shocker.

Yeah, it had some positives. But I wouldn't say this was a belter. The safety card, it saved it. There are definitely a few points of improvement here. Firstly, this one should have been done this weekend anyway, the TechPro barrier where Ocon and Sines crashed. That seemed like a no-brainer, especially for next year, but really they had time to sort that anyway. And the fact that they dismissed it after what happened to Sines is, I would say it is incredibly worrying, but also not entirely surprising, which gives you an insight into my overview of the FIA. but that should have been installed.

I would also like to see the C5 tire make an appearance next time out rather than they chose C4 through to C2. I understand why because it's a new track, not really sure where the tires are going to go in terms of the durability, even the teams until race day didn't really know what they were going to do. As it turned out, I think without the safety car, most would have gone for a one stop here. So C5, C4, C3 tires, I think you'd have seen two stop as the optimal strategy.

that would have helped out. Safety car, you've already made the point there that it definitely enhanced the race and I'm going to take that out of consideration here. By and large, I liked this way more than the average person did because I saw plenty of errors from drivers. There were a lot of issues going around that track. We saw obviously the Ghazley one that led to the Norris crash, but Vettel had a similar one, bot ass into the penultimate corner, Norris the penultimate corner. There were a lot of opportunities to be caught out around that track. We were promised, like a circuit that promotes these potential errors from drivers,

and it carried through in that respect. And we saw a lot of clumsy moves into corners. We saw a lot of half-hearted attempts. There was carnage going on between the Aston Martins and the hash drivers at the end. And the reason, you know, it's not as if these drivers have lost their ability over night. The reason you've got all of those incidents is because this circuit gives half opportunities and it doesn't give those slam dunk overtake opportunities that we see at some of the other circuits, which I think is great. You know, we didn't really see too many opportunities

where it's like, okay, he's got the move done before the breaking zone. There was there were one or two. I think Hamilton had one very early on potentially. But other than that, most of the other overtakes that were made were contested. And I would rather see that than see 10 times more overtakes, but all of them be slam dunk passes due to DRS. So by and large,

I'm not saying it's perfect. The first sector that you've already mentioned, I think, could do with a bit of work. But overall, I was much happier than I thought I was going to be about this racetrack, and I think I'm happier than the average fan coming away from this one.

Let's put that to the test thing. like sorry Harry to jump in there I was just going to say we should let's give the track a cheeky rating out of 10 like the track itself not the race I mean I would give it like a like a six a six out of 10 it's definitely got room for improvement but it's better

than a couple of the races we've got on the camera of the currently yeah I mean I might be grading on a slightly tougher scale because I'd probably only go like one more than that as seven but I don't know it's a heavy asterix because again if we

did this, were back, who it would probably be a two after year one. So it is tough, exactly. But I was pretty happy with this. I reckon if we, and sorry to go on about the race camera direction, but if we'd seen more of the action that was happening on the timing tower, I think general opinion of this race probably would have gone up about 50% because we missed so much this race. It was ridiculous.

That's a great call that. Yep, definitely. Let's review some, well, yeah, let's go on. Let's review some bold predictions. Harry, remind us, what was your bold prediction? Oh, I said that both Mercedes were finishing the top six. Oh, is that it? Was that it?

Close. I mean, technically not wrong. I did say that, but more specifically, I said on the podium. Yeah, that didn't. Unless there are a lot of post-raised penalties coming in after we've recorded, that hasn't happened. A whisker away. Good effort, son. Sam, what was yours?

I mean, I laugh at you, Harry, but it's not like I really did any better. I was almost half right, and I was really excited because part of it was Mick Schumacher with score his first point. So you know what? Until he absolutely rinks the side of that Aston Martin, it was almost done. The other part was that Daniel Ricardo was going to get plugging. But anyway, you know, it doesn't really matter because, because, you know, it was wrong anyway.

So it's another week, another incorrect prediction. Well, I'd like guys, because I said that Sonoda would beat Gazley, and he did, so I'll take the dub on this one. Oh, come on. The biggest lying owner to man. I said that Sonoda was going to beat Gasly in the race, and he did. so I don't see what the problem is. You also say in practice and qualify.

I don't remember that a bit. Right, fine. Everyone, just, everyone go back to the preview, please. Replay the bold predictions and then come here and laugh at Ben for lying. People are clever now. They can edit, you know, edit my audio and say I said something that I didn't, you know. There'll be a BBC article on Twitter tomorrow saying that the false news reported by the late-breaking podcast has been corrected. I did enjoy Sonoda.

absolutely rinsing his ties within about five lacks. Yeah. Yeah. That was in good stuff from Yuki. Hey, it was all part of the long-term game because he still beat Ghazley. He knew what he was doing.

He was giving him a head start. I just thought, skill got nothing. Yeah. Still got nothing. Well, unsuccessful is the one-word review for our bowl predictions. Driver of the day.

We'll pick our own ones, but we've also got some fan submissions yet again. You just went. wait folks. Driver of the day from you, Harry. I was going to go for Valtry Botas until he absolutely

bottled it at the final corner. What are you doing, man? It's like he kept one Mercedes behind him for most of the race. And then he saw two in his mirror and he was like, oh, can't do that anymore. Into the wall I go. So sorry, Walter, you're not going to get it

for me. I ain't going to go for the obvious one. I'm going to go for Max for Stappen. For all the reasons we've already spoken about in this podcast, he was pretty, pretty down faultless today. Max Verstappen was great and he finishes second on my ballot only because I've got one driver in front of him.

This is the scene that I picture. You've got Magnuson, you've got Schumacher, Vettel, Stroll, the Alpheteris, Alpines. They're all like punching each other in this massive fight and they're all going for it. And then Alex Albin just creeps along like, no one not here, guys. No one will recognize I'm here. I'm just going to sneak in. He's so good at it. It's like you don't see anything from him.

That Williams had no right to be anywhere near points this weekend. And he's just like, I'll let you guys fight. And I'm just going to sneak in here if that's all right. And he gets points. And he did exactly the same thing at Australia. So you have to respect it. I'm going with Alex Albonner's driver of the day. Sammy, have you got?

I don't think I've ever given this person driving the day. Maybe at all, maybe one occasion. But they went from essentially last on the grid, if you discount me asking them to start from the pit lane because they don't know how to warm fuel up properly. Espan Okon, he managed to cut through. He played the safety car to his advantage. He ended up beating his teammate on track

even before there was a penalty applied up until the last little bit. And you know what? I thought he was absolutely brilliant. O'Con has a great result. It's what he's needed. I feel like he's been a little lackluster and I think he was a bit of a dark course in the race that got a lot of people paying attention to

and he picked up some good points right from the very back in a track that showed it was hard to get through traffic so for me, Ockon, drive-in-the-day but the other two that you mentioned were the only other two games on my radar. Worst drive-over-the-day from you, Harry? I find this one that's slightly trickier

than the drive-of-the-day. I don't think there's any real standout crap performance I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with I mean both Huss and yeah were a bit diabolical but I'm gonna go with KMAG

just because I think I mean he was being a bit box office at the end I don't know what that move was on stroll or he was defending from stroll but he was just like nah you were not coming past me whether you like it or not and it did anyway but yeah I go with KMA you got a few warnings as well for him I

He got a black and white flag when the race was over, which I find incredible. That's a great effort. But yeah, I'll go with KMAG. But to be fair to the drivers out there, not a huge amount of badgness. So well done, guys. I am going to go for someone I put faith in incorrectly.

A Hall of Famer, no less. As you say, Yuki Sanos. Big Shaq. No, no, Big Shaq had a fine race. He was all right. but Yuki Sanoda did not Yuki Sanoda did not I mean he basically went around two corners

and he's like nah Ty's gone mate that's been done and that was that school rubbers I mean yeah he was essentially out there on four erasers

and it just did not work for him he's got two big pencils out he actually made some progress at the end because of the safety car but I don't want to give him too much praise for that because without it, it'd have been nowhere. So Yuki Sanona worst driver of the day from my side. Sam, we all pick different driver of the days.

And if you pick someone different to myself and Harry here, we'll have all different worst driver of the days as well. What are you saying? Well, we're in luck because I have agreed with Harry in the terms of how difficult this was to pick someone. And I think that whoever I picked, I was going to feel a bit bad about it. because I don't think anyone was woeful.

And I don't know if this one was entirely their fault either, but I do think they deserve a call-out for it. Landon Norris was my worst driver of the day. He got off to a poor start, lost your place off the start, couldn't really make up the difference. The McLaren didn't look too strong. Then the pit phases come around,

and it looked like a few of the drivers worked really well with getting the hard tire warmed up quickly. Hamilton came out with Frank of Ricardo, for example, within a lap was two seconds up the road. But Norris comes out in front of the Ashton Martins, the heart is, and within a lap, he's been absolutely gobbled up, then can't make it back through any of the traffic, get stuck behind them.

And then, in my opinion, he ends up causing the crash that knocks him out of the race with Pierre Gasley. So this was a little bit of a calamity of errors for Landon Norris. I think worst drive the day. Well, that's what our submissions are, but ladies and gents, coming up next, we've got the fan submissions from Discord. Will they agree with us?

Stay tuned to find out. All right, we're going to start with, we're going to start with, without a doubt, the best new name from this week's submissions. I'm not going to say it. I'm going to let this person introduce themselves. Hello, this is saucy fruit. My submission for Best Ride of the Day is the Goathee.

The man kept it out of the walls and did not cause a single yellow or red flag. praise to goat Teefe. Worst driver of the day has got to be Hamilton. He has not been able to do anything in the car. While Russell's able to move up the grid, Hamilton needs to figure it out.

Keep it saucy. Wow. Sorry, two things on this podcast. Firstly, how to get on our good side. Have a ridiculous game. Secondly, just say stupid things like keep it saucy. And I'm your best friend for life. sold, I'm done, thank you.

That is, they are spicy takes. Also, Mr. Fruit. We're still all different. Every single submission, different. I was going to say, if you look in a dictionary and search for the term grading on a curve, you will literally find saucy fruits giving out driver of the day. I thought you were going to say keep it saucy then. Yeah, well, there we go. That's our first one in. We'll now go to Tom Lennox Rob.

My driver of the day has got to be Max Stappen. He came from P3 to P1 to win the race, and he didn't really look like losing the lead for the whole thing, even when there was a safety car. And my worst driver day has got to be Pierre Gasley from coming in the top 10 with points to finishing outside, causing a collision with Lando Norris. My driver of the day has got to be Georgie Russ.

Oh, sorry, like. That was just a stellar performance from P12 to P5. They played that safety car like it was nothing. and Pierre Gazile, worst driver of the day, that lad was just off it. But to be fair, a good start,

but then shambles. Shambles, absolutely shambles. I thought it's so weird. Hearing other people who were English on this podcast because it so rarely happens. And also,

the background noises of these people submissions. What's the ding? I love hearing your lives happen around these submissions. Don't ever stop it. Don't make the perfect. It's great.

I hope you. were able to get to the person at reception in time, you know. I also enjoy that people don't fully pause their lives to do this. So just, I'm going to just do this. But I'm not going to turn whatever off it. Yeah, whatever's going on in the background. I'm not going to shut that up. I've got to do this quickly.

Don't mind me, guys. A couple of returnees up next. We'll start with Rai Guy. Inaguel Miami Grand Prix race. driver of the day Driver of the day goes to Max Miami Verstappen Worst drive of the day goes to our

favorite Mr. Detella Nicholas Latifie Stick with the theory of putting in really weird nicknames And you're going to get played folks Good news folks Bungaloreans back Wee

Hello once again My choice for drive of the day for the Miami Grand Prix. It's not probably the most popular, but George Russell playing out the strategy well and getting that safety car. I mean, he got it, and the strategy worked.

He got it. He's for worst driver of the day. I hate to say it, but it does have to be Mick Schumacher. He just, he was on the verge of points and then honestly kind of threw it away when he dive bomb Seb, which is a shame. But you have to be honest. I do.

The tall glass of milk, George Russell, the best and Mick for the worst. What a glass of milk? Why? It's not an expression. Moving on. We've got a couple more to go, folks. Eva Alfie, I'm next.

So my driver at the day would be in American style, George and Mick Russell, for manifesting the same. safety car, playing his tires really well and managing to get all the way up there to P5. As for my worst driver of the day, I'd give it to Schumacher who could only honour his father

going up the inside and taking out a person in front vessel and ending up towards the back of the grid. So, yeah. Good race though, I think Miami is maybe one that could promise something in the future.

You may remember from the Imala review that MLG, one of our listeners, does not like to waste words. When given the task of Driver of the Day, last time, MLG responded with this. Well, MLG has a much more in-depth response to whose driver of the day this time out. Super Max. Brilliant. And that's it.

To the point. Yep, absolutely love it. And I haven't, I know I usually give a preview for a few of these. I'm not going to say anything for this one. Strap yourself in, guys. My 2022 Miami Grand Prix driver of the day, I actually brought a longtime friend of the podcast with me. Well, it's not really an interview.

They're just more getting our opinion, but why don't you tell the people who you are? Mr. 305, Mr. Worldwide, my friends call me. El Trico, thank you for coming to do this with me. I know they wanted to get you on the podcast last weekend, but couldn't. and what a Grand Prix. To start off, our driver of the day is Max for stopping. How do you feel about that, Pitbull?

It's priceless. That's what it's all about. The driver of the day isn't necessarily even for the day. It's just Latifie once again, not really seeming to pull his own weight around the track. Pibble, you're a positive guy. Any comments or advice you can give Latifie? No one's dumb. No one's stupid. It's all about how you learn.

It is indeed. Well, thank you so much for coming to do this with me. I know the guys at the podcast are really going to appreciate this. So, will you sign us off?

We got him on the podcast. Oh, folks, we listened to that before we start recording and again, absolutely sent us. We couldn't talk for a good five minutes. That is sensational. The effort we expect now.

How did you have time to do that? I just don't understand. How do you know pit bull? How do you know pit bull? I mean, that's another great point. I love our listeners, man. You guys rock. You guys rock.

We love the effort. Thank you for your submissions. They are so good. Did you have a moment of the race, Sam? No. I hang a moment before the race. And that has to be doing only Martin Brundle, taking that Grig walk.

I mean, speaking to DJ Khalid, they're like, modest chappenny, modest. Like, what a ridiculous moment that is. Brundle, as terms of his Grig Walks go, that might be up there with one of the best of all time. And chasing David Beckham around, the Red Bull car was absolutely hysterical as well. The race was good.

He did he? He did not give up. David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, Martin from Skype. David, David, David. It's like a kid that wants something at the shop, isn't it? like when they want, Mum, Mum, Mummy, Mum, Mum, Mum, Mum, watch this, and they do like a jump, and that's all they do.

That was David and Martin Brundle. I loved it. I want to see it all the time. The poor man is made to run constantly in the heat of Miami. It was fantastic. I'm going same but different because I am also going with Martin Brundall's grid walk, but I'm specifically picking out the moment where he thinks he's clocked on to Patrick Mahomes. Oh, God.

And I'm stood there, the NFL fan that I am going, that in Patrick, my homes, buddy. I hope someone tells you before you get that. No, no, no, he's gone right for it. Oh, Martin. Not even the right sport, I'm afraid, on that one, Martin. But anyway, I think Mr. Banchero seemed to take it in good step, but not an ideal moment.

Harry, your moment of the race? I mean, the Hulk could be the moment of the race for me, but I'll go for an actual one that happened in the race. It was when... Boo, boo, it was when Checker started losing power, and his engineer was like, no, no, no, it's fine. And he's like, no, no, I'm going like three seconds slower down the straight. He's like, no, no, no, no, it's all fine.

Keep going. It's all that's good. He's like, for goodness sake, man, I'm going slower. Look at my goddamn speed. Oh, sensational work. Good stuff. Red Bull think the toe is the strongest thing in the world. You get four seconds a lap by being in the toe.

Oh, unbreakable. No, no, you just lost the toe. You found me. Check out. Get on with it. Look at the times, please. We're going to move on to talk about Sergio Perez, perhaps slightly indirectly because we're looking at Carlos Sines specifically,

but of course the two races were very intertwined. So Carlos Sines had to defend from Perez's, fresh medium tires at the end of the Grand Prix, which he successfully did to finish on the podium again. But he was also a long way pace-wise behind his teammate and indeed the eventual winner, Max Verstappen. So Sam, how would you view Carlos Sines' weekend as a whole? I just want to give a preliminary shout out

to Sergio Perez's Diet Bomb coming all the way from Canada to try and get past Carlos Sites. It was fantastic. We love that kind of effort. That's what we're about here at late breaking or don't break it. But yeah, Carlos Sines. Now, firstly, in terms of recovery in the last two Grand Prix, which, let's be realistic, were shockers for Carlos Sines.

He really needed to pick up points in both those events and he had an absolute mare, as we like to say here in the United Kingdom, short for nightmare. You know, it was a tough one for him. So he needed to bounce back. Now, bouncing back was good. He's back on the podium. That's probably the minimum that I would expect,

realistically, from Carlos Sites and that Ferrari, and he delivered that. So that's okay. But I think he is pretty much. tick the box of second driver. And he did it not with his actions on track, but with his words and reactions in the cool down room. And you know what?

It is so goddamn good to have the cool down room back. We love the call down room. I'm so happy. Hallelujah. It's here to stay. And oh, once again, insightful moments from the call down room. And the biggest moment for me was not Crofty apologizing for Carlos Sainz swearing. It was the reason why he was swearing where he went,

what lap times were you doing, Charles and Max? Um, 1.30. Okay. Yeah, cool. Cool. What tires were they on? The hard. Oh, effing hell.

I've just realized I'm incredibly slow in comparison to both my teammate and this other title challenger. Um, and you can see visually, audibly, he was shocked, confused how they were managing to pull that lap time out. And I think that says right there, but Carlos Sites is not on the same page in terms of ability, overall pace and championship. contention that Charlotte Claire and Max Verstappen are. And you know what? That's fine. Not everyone is going to ever be that good. Not everyone could be the basketball time,

everyone could be a championship winner. But he needs to make sure that he's doing everything he can to give himself in a top seat because otherwise that could decline massively or find some pace. But this was the cherry on top of a three race event that really cemented the second driver spot for Carlos Sites. I think that is now very clear at Ferrari. Harry, how did you view this one? Of course, you know, he did have to fight for that piece.

three late in the race, but there were other less encouraging signs throughout the weekend. So how do you view it? Yeah, I'm mixed back. I think it's good for just signs in general that he had a weekend where he picked up another podium after what has been two tough races. Well, you did do more than a lap in both the first, the previously races. But yeah, I mean, as Sam said, pace-wise, just wasn't quite there again. and then it's quickly already becoming that two horse race up at the front,

and Perez and signs aren't far off, but they're just not quite close enough. I think they'll be there to pick up the pieces when inevitably, Vastappen and Nicolae take each other out. But I just don't think that either of them are quite there. And look, it's fine. That's the world of F1,

and sometimes it just doesn't happen. We saw it with Bottas and Hampton. There's always a driver who's quicker than his teammates. So, yeah, look, it's going to be hard for science to swallow. But I think this is sort of the way it's going this year. But yeah, for him, I think it was crucial that he had a good weekend here. He can build on it and maybe he can stage some sort of fight back. But I think what is becoming evident to him, as we saw in that cool down room,

is that Bastapel and Nicola were sort of well up the road again today. And, you know, he did hold off Perez at the end of the race, which is fair enough because he had all the ties, but then Perez was down on power, so sort of evens up that fight there too. So, yeah, it wasn't a mistake-free weekend, as we saw. He stuffed it into the wall in practice, but I think he could at least take some solace

from the fact that he managed to get a podium out of it in the end. There was one moment quite late on in the Grand Prix, possibly with five laps to go or something like that, where we obviously had the safety car which bunched up the field completely, but soon enough, Vestaple and Leclair took off and they were in their own sort of division

with signs protecting his third place from Perez, but doing so quite a few seconds back from the front two, there was a moment where the camera just panned out and it was focused on the top two, quite a long-distance shot, and then it just panned back to the other two drivers. And for whatever reason, that moment, it kind of just stuck with me of that that's what's happening here

and that that's how it's going to be this year. Carlos Sines is a great driver, as is Sergio Perez, but there are two classes out front. And I think that's how it will stay throughout the rest of this year. And from a constructor's point of view, Ferrari just needs signs to do his job versus Perez in my view, which even though points-wise it's not showing at the moment, I think performance-wise it's pretty even.

but I don't think Sines has got it to compete with Vastappan and Lecler. I think there is an element of him being in his own head because Sines, for the most part, in his career, has been a fairly low mistake kind of guy. Hasn't generally made too many errors throughout the course of his career. But they've started to creep in this year. And we saw it again in practice where it just seems like he might be in his own head a little bit here.

We get to qualify. He has the opportunity. to beat Leclair. He qualifies P2, which is an achievement in itself, but LeCler was very open about the fact that that qualifying lap that he delivered was not one of his best. He wasn't happy with that lap at all, but it was still enough to beat Carlos Sines. It was Sines's opportunity to get one over on LeCler, and he missed it. Because whilst LeClair couldn't hook the lap together, Sines couldn't hook the lap together that little bit more. And that's what cost him that P1 in qualifying. The race is a lot of the race.

itself. I mean, the race start, it really isn't a long distance down to turn one. Now, I appreciate you don't want to be on the dirty side of the track. And I think that was made more apparent this weekend than on most other weekends, but it's still a really short run down in turn one. We're not talking Barcelona. We're not talking Mexico here. There isn't much time for the driver behind you to get in front of you going into that first corner. And whilst he probably defended the position about as well as he could have done from Max, but a cleaner getaway he wouldn't have even needed to. And then the race itself,

it was just a gradual pulling away from the top two. You never felt as if signs is going to catch up, and he didn't. And I think you do have to give him props for how he defended the position against Perez late in the Grand Prix. He allowed Perez to make that error. He was smart enough to see it coming. So I think he deserves respect for staying ahead

of him and getting the podium. But for me, this weekend was the clincher. This weekend was the one that sealed, in my mind, he isn't winning this championship. It's not happening for him. Maybe I like to be proven wrong. Science himself proved me very wrong last year by beating Lecler. So the opportunity is there for him. And based on my bold prediction this weekend of Sonoda doing a great job on Gassley, I mean, the opportunity is definitely there for me to be wrong. Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time, is what I'm saying, but I don't see it happening. I don't see it happening. We're going to round off this episode with some views on some of the stewing decisions that take place, so stay tuned. Let's have a look at the incident that ultimately

brought out the safety car. First of all, I'm sorry, VSC. What? The fact that Crofty is sat there like, oh, and they brought out the VSC, Will it turn into a safety car? What do you mean will it turn? It should have been a VSE in the first place. What's a ridiculous decision that was. There's a car in the middle of the track with only three tires and the marshals are all looking at like,

are we meant to go out there right now? Is that safe? Ridiculous. Who's looking at that and going, yeah, VSC. VSE. It's like the world's worst slide tackle that's like broken his leg and just like, uh, booking. That'll be all right.

right, let me come on. Anyway, that's not the point of the question. The point of the question is, Gassley had an incident in that first sector that ultimately caused him to slow down. Rejoining the track, Lando Norris, trying to move to the left of Gassley. They collided as Norris was trying to go past Gassley. As far as I'm aware, no investigation at all. Harry, what did you make of the incident and what should have happened as a result of it? Yeah, I put it's all on Lando And I was watching the commentary Or listening to the commentary, I guess watching the race

And both Crofti and Brundle on Sky or a UK commentary Were saying, yeah, Gisley Gisley didn't realize he was there And I was like, I know Gassley had been off the circuit But he'd rejoined at this point And was just on the outside of the circuit So it was Lando was coming past He's the one to go and leave the space there

So it's all on Lando I don't think necessarily penalties necessary is needed for this. But, you know, because Lando was out of the race anyway, but, but yeah,

totally on Lando. I can't understand the, even they were looking back at replays and replays, they were like, yeah, Gazley should have realized he was there. Was he not looking in his mirror?

And I was like, well, no, because he was, anyway. Anyway. Yeah, this is,

this is on Norrisome. Which is unusual for Lando, because to be honest, he's, one of the cleaner drivers in the field. It's not often you see Lando Norris get into a, get into a scrape. I think it was just unfortunate.

I think it was just a bit of a misjudgment on his part. Obviously, I know they both came out of the race, but I feel like Gassley's race ended with some other issue. I think it was something to do with his rear suspension, which may have been the lunch from Alonzo earlier on in the race. But yeah, look, it worked out worse for Lando in that immediate instance. So it's, yeah.

I don't think a penalty was needed, but yeah, definitely all I landed Norris. I'm not sure whether the Ghazdi fault came in that one, but maybe that's just me. Sam, do you agree with Harry or do you agree with Martin Brondell? I mean, it's a great battle between the two of them for supremacy. So, yes, exactly. Who do you agree with? The man from Kingsling or the man from St. Ossel Cornwall, it's tough to know. There aren't many times in our podcast history

that I have categorically agree with Mr. Harry Ead. But Lando Norris, you could not be more at fault for this incident if you tried, my friend. Okay, let's, let's, we've got to rewind. You know, if you've ever played the Formula One game, you get a flashback because you're rubbish. So we've gone back three corners,

and they're all having to fight. Thank you. Yeah, the F1 always comes across. If you've ever played that, that would be really horribly, real in your mind. If you haven't played it, you have no clue what we're wrong about. That is so telling of how many flashbacks you've had to do because of how well you've nailed that noise.

Anyway, that's really niche in the Formula One game world. Of course, Gassley is having this ding-dog battle with the Midfield group and Norris previously has been stuck behind them. And he makes a bit of a clangor of it. He runs really, really wide onto the dirty stuff. It's almost like he safely lets the other guys kind of just go through because he doesn't want to swerved back onto the racing line of a really dirty part of the track, which I think from Gassley, super fair. So he's come out of the Corning out after going off. He is firmly on the track. He's accelerating down the straight. Okay, he's not at top speed. That part of the track is very wide. Gassley is well over to the right-hand side of that part of the track. And if you go on board with

Landon Norris, you can see there is so much space to the left-hand side. It's not like Gasly is squeezing over to the left and Lando's realized last minute. There's a lot of space. Well over a car, if not two cars with, for him to get through at that point. And in Lando, it's sort of swerving over to the left. He just continues drifting to the right, where Gassley has got the right of way. You know, if you're on the road, normally, the person in front has right of way. If you're on a racetrack, the person of front has the right of way. It's the person behind that has to make the safe decision.

When they're overtaking, when they're making a move, it's the person behind that is responsible for the safety of the two cars. Now, the crash is entirely on Lando's fault. He came over too close. Gasly, of course, hang a lot to deal with, but still, Ghazly had the right of way

at that point. Now, should there have been a penalty because Landon Norris had been taking out of the race, by himself, it was of his own doing, but doesn't mean he shouldn't get a penalty. Well, I like to look at

instincts, not based on the outcome, but on the instinct itself. So whether Landon Norris D and F from this incident or not, to me, is actually irrelevant. It's about the contact, the type of move, the collision itself. And I think this does warrant a penalty.

I think that it should be, it's no malice. It's not an overly aggressive move. It was just a silly mistake, but I do think nonetheless, this should be a penalty. And I think they should still award them. I know it might look a little bit silly

coming up on your TV screen or whatever, that Landon Norris, D&F, who will receive a time penalty, but I do think it should happen for consistency across the season. And I think it should have only been a five second penalty. It was a light to happen because of the speed they were going at,

it resulted in quite a big combustion of two cars. That's not why I look at that result. For me, it's a five second penalty. And if we're comparing that to what happened with Fernando Alonkso earlier in the race. The tap in terms of the size of the hit was pretty much the same. It just happened at a much lower speed at a different part of the track. And that also received a five second time penalty. I think that's the right decision. Alongso was at fault. He tapped the back of Gasley. Of course,

we think that might be the reason why he DNF later on in the race. But it was a similar size tap. It just happened at a slower part of the track and that received a five second penalty. So I think Ladeng Norish should still receive a five second penalty despite D&Fing just for that consistent. that continuity throughout the season, which is what the FIA need to be doing across the season. So we can have a bit of faith in that skewinging. So yeah, for me, just because you're D&F doesn't mean you don't get a penalty. I think it should still go down as a penalty. So five second penalty for Lando.

Lando, go round someone, not into them. You're right, though. He's not usually the kind of guy you're seeing a scrape, but he is at fault here. Just sorry, Ben, quickly. Do we know if Alonzo has received any other penalties yet for just, missing that chicane on the final lap so he didn't have to fall out of the points. It didn't have that happened yet. Did you not get a black and white flag for that one?

He was involved in so many things. I thought he was under a... Man is a bumper card. Sick Fernando Alonzo just making up his own line there just to avoid a... He was a menace. Losing out points. Absolute menace. It was a little menace.

I don't know where to go with that. So, um, just to one of the points you made Sam actually in terms of the penalty being applied and looking a bit silly because he's out of the race. You know, for the race itself, a five second penalty would not have mattered at all. But for penalty points, it does.

You know, for penalty points, that carries over. That's on a 12-month rolling sort of thing. So to not award anything because of that also means that the penalty points don't get applied. And if they're warranted, then they should be given out. So for the, I just to, I don't know we're any audio here, but just to give you a bit of insight, I wear glasses. Don't worry, I look amazing in them.

So what? So to give you a bit of insight here, what I had to do, I had to take my glasses off as I'm going to show the guys here. That's a, give me a good old rub. He is. Put it back on. He's giving it a ball. No, no, no, not clean enough. try a second time.

There still must be a little bit of dirty there or something. Try a third time. No wait. I'm definitely looking at this right. That is not Gassley's fault. At no point in Gassley's

like few moments when he joined the track, does he turn left? He is turning right the entire time. Straight or right. He's not going to left. It is on Lando Norris to pass safely. It is on Lando Norris to leave enough room.

And what does he, the way that the corner works, I'm not sure what you expect to happen. Gassley can't, he has to be there. So yes, it's on Lando Norris to overtake him safely. And yes, I agree with the points you made, Sam. I'm not going to add too much more here, because I agree with everything you said and I thought I was going utterly mad. Don't worry, mate. I'm really mad on this podcast. Well, it wasn't even a recognition.

I mean, we are, you know, we like Croftian Brundle, but they were on, I think they're just a bit tired today. They were missing quite a few things on commentary. Giving Lance is happening. Four World titles was an impressive. Yeah.

Congrats, Lance. That was good for about a lap you had four war championships. It was impressive. It's probably from, I mean, did you see the pre-race event that happened on the Wednesday where Crofty was in full shout mode for like a full half hour? I feel like he exhausted himself there and then. I'm surprised he didn't have a heart attack. If you've seen it, you know what I mean?

He just doesn't stop shouting. Sounds like me on this podcast. Too true. Too true. Sam, you've already given your view on the Alonzo Gazzley situation. So I'll go to you, Harry, on this one. Magic Alonzo, do you think he deserve the penalty? Magic Alonzo. Yes, there was a bit of a clumsy one from Fernando.

He kind of went for the lunge, but it wasn't quite committed enough. And at which point, he wasn't really fully alongside. So it was Gassley's corner. And Alonzo might say he turned in on me, but he turned in because it was his corner because you weren't really alongside him. yeah, Fernando. So, yeah, clumsy one from Fernando.

He just had a sort of frustrating race again. We had a poor pit stopped in need, so. But yeah, that's totally on him and correct penalty, in my view. You also hit Hamilton, didn't he, at the start of the race? Yeah, I mean, that one was a slot. That one seemed a little bit just more. That was just a slats. Clumsy racing, yeah.

You know, first slap you can get on anything. But yeah, you're right. He was involved in a few scrapes, wasn't he old magical, after imola i feel like these last two races have proven that he just needs a battle tank now doesn't he just doesn't care about contact it's just make it indestructible is the memo for the the alpies uh yeah this one seems slam dunk five second um it seemed very similar to the schumacher vettel crash the only difference there is that schumacher followed through a bit better You think they were slow down?

It really went through, isn't it? Yeah. Which is why, obviously, the crash was a bit more spectacular than the other one was. But still, yeah, this was slam dunk. You know, you've got to at least have something alongside. Otherwise, you know, you aren't shutting the door. It is your corner. Again, you've kind of summarised my view on this one, Harry,

so I won't extend it any further. But five-second penalty was the correct call for me. And then he decided, well, it's probably not enough, is it? Let's see how many incidents I can get involved in within two laps of racing. Oh, Fernando. I reckon I know what caused the Schumacher Vettel crash.

I bet it's because Vettelang his panks on over his race suit. I bet that was the reason. Probably. Do you know what's weird? Is that that happened this weekend, and we've got like an hour and five minutes into this podcast, and because it isn't even in the top 20 ridiculous things that happened, we haven't discussed it.

I mean, that just proves what this weekend has been, right? It is five minutes past midnight here in the UK. What are we doing? There were celebrities on that racetrack than there were at the Oscars. It was just endless, endless celebrities. Did you see the mermaids? The burmades. What are they doing?

What's that about? Why were they there? James Cordick was just holding Ricardo for just a period of the weekend. Yeah, every shoulder. Can you imagine how that conversation goes? Yeah. What's the job? You want me to be a mermaid?

Right, fine. At the F-1, you say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. I'll be there. I'll be there. See, later. It's just all bonk.

Hey, Michael, Jordan. Hey, how's it going? You've got a lot of money and not a lot of time. Yeah, sure, that's right. Why don't you go to dinner with Pierre Gasly? Who's the beep? Is Pierre Gasly?

Out of all the drivers. So random. Why Pierre? I mean, no offence Pierre, but why Pierre? I don't know. I loved it anyway. I think we've gone even more crazy than usual. We've gone past whatever our optimal time is.

So, Sam, if you wouldn't mind for this episode, getting us out of here. Cricy, it feels like the podcast was just the cherry on top of an absolutely crazy, crazy week. Miami don't ever change. We're looking forward to even more crazy as next time out. Thank you for listening. if you've got to the end of this podcast, it probably means you've enjoyed it. So I appreciate that.

Come back again on Wednesday, where we will be having another little episode talking all things Formula One, who's good and who isn't good at the F1. We will be back, of course, midweek. We've already mentioned the Discord. The link is down in the description below. So if you want to talk all things Formula One,

when there isn't any action happening on track, there is a huge community of people talking down there as well. And something extra little nice that happened today before the race. We ticked over 500,000. lifetime downloads of the podcast. In two years, essentially, we've been doing this, which is crazy, it's stupid, we take the Mickey all the time,

and we're not professionals at what we do. We're just trying to have fun and talk about Formula One. So thank you for your ridiculous support. We love you all, and it really means a lot to us, more than we can really express in this episode. There is merch, there is Patreon. Check it out if you're interested. But I think we've taken up enough of your time

after a rather bizarre Formula One weekend. In the meantime, I've been Ben Hocking. I've been Harry Ead. And remember, keep breaking late. Keep it saucy. Leave a review. Podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.