The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Australian GP Review
Episode Date: April 2, 2023Ben, Sam and Harry review an absolutely chaotic Australian GP in Melbourne, where Max Verstappen took his second victory of the year. The boys break down the THREE red flags, give their verdict on bes...t and worst drivers of the day, and discuss their moments of the race... VOTE for us in the Sports Podcast Awards: https://www.sportspodcastgroup.com/sports_category/best-motorsports-podcast/ SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704 TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Australian Grand Prix review time.
We didn't think we'd ever get here to the review of this race because we didn't think it would ever end.
But eventually, Max Verstappen took victory at the Australian Grand Prix,
joined on the podium by Lewis Hamilton,
and Fernando Alonzo yet again finding the longest route to third place
after also being out of the points with a lap to go somehow.
There's a lot to break down here.
Couldn't really put together a schedule because it's all just carnage.
Sam, I mean, have you had your poo now?
Oh, good.
That's a great way to kick off the show.
folks, I went out yesterday for a friend's birthday
and I'm sure you've all had it.
You know, you have a few beers, you get a bit tipsy,
then you come home and you have a bit of a cheeky takeaway, right?
A little bit of a greasy takeaway.
Anyway, obviously woke up at, you know, crack a dawn
to watch the Australian Grand Prix.
And about by lap 30, I was like, oh, I do need the toilet,
but here's some exciting, folks.
Here you go, this is on Ben, I'm it.
It takes me a little while to go to the little.
I like to take my time, right, play a little game, watch a little video, you know,
relax into it.
So I can't just get up and go and only lose a lap.
So when 83 Reg flags happen, now the year is 2037,
I had to really crack onto that bathroom when we finally got to the podium.
Anyway, so I'm good.
Thank you, Ben, for asking.
I'm not following that up.
Fair.
I take full responsibility for that.
I apologize profusely.
Formula One, that's what we're talking about.
Multiple red flags, incidents galore,
but eventually Max Verstappen taking the victory.
It seemed like we were heading for a relatively normal end
until Kevin Magnuson decided he wanted to get close to the wall
with a few laps to go, brought out a red flag.
A restart happened.
It wasn't very clean.
And then here we are.
The pinnacle of motorsport.
With that in mind,
what did you think about the whole last few laps?
Firstly, the throwing of the red flag
was that the correct decision?
And then secondly,
how they decided the order at the end of the Grand Prix?
The qualification for what constitutes a red flag at the moment
feels very unsure.
Now, I know the three of us are all on the same page
for what I'm about to say,
that safety is paramount.
You make sure that people are in a safe position first
before anything, entertainment or race order,
whatever it might be, safety comes first.
But it does feel like the moment anything touches
the racetrack that isn't literally working
and attached to a race car now,
it is immediately stop the entire Formula One calendar,
ban Formula One from every state,
and we will not race ever again
until it's cleared up.
And, you know, I fully agree.
Obviously, I'm not there at the track.
I haven't got cameras at every corner.
I can't coordinate with every marshal.
And if they've turned around and said,
we simply cannot right now safely remove the debris and the car.
It cannot be done.
We need time.
Okay, fine.
And if someone can find that information or whatever, sure.
But until I think that information is brought forward,
and I will happily see if it is,
it feels like a safety car would have given the time
to pick up the tire and push the debris off the track.
We've had that done at many a track
with some good old wooden brooms
pushing some carbon fiber off the track.
And KMAG, even on three tires,
he's a really good job of actually getting the car
off to a slip road and off of the racing line properly.
He was behind a little barrier at one point.
He managed to come off a corner properly.
He wasn't parked on the track.
So my point is, as much as it's a long form to get there,
I'm a little bit skeptical on if we needed that final red flag.
When I say final red flag, I mean, the one that was actually part of the racing, not just the carnage that then ensued afterwards.
Yeah, I mean, it's the most red flags ever in one Grand Prix, folks, that is, ever seen, which is, I mean, you just witness history.
And another form of history would have been made if Carlos Sites hadn't taken out, Fernando Alonso, because Yuki Sengoda would have got three 11 places in a row, which if you didn't know, that would have been a new record for the most finishers in a row in the same place outside of first.
I don't know who said that before me, but just because start of her in the air.
Great.
It was a mess.
It was like it, folks.
It was an absolute mess.
Chaos.
Loved watching it.
Went on for too long.
Needed the loo.
But absolutely love the drama.
We've established that already.
Good.
Unfortunately.
Did you enjoy the drama, Harry?
I mean, I loved the drama, Mick.
It's all about the drama Mick.
Gavner Stacey reference or anyone didn't get that.
Yeah, it was, drama was good, but it was...
F1 again didn't necessarily cover itself in glory with today.
The first red flag I get.
I know they said it was for gravel,
but actually I saw a couple of screenshots afterwards,
and like the tech pro is not on the wall anymore.
So fine, fair enough.
Clear the track up.
And it's quite a fast part of the track there,
so it's easier to just stop them.
guys coming around.
The second one,
I feel like maybe they panicked slightly.
Michael Massey was there this weekend
and not saying it.
No.
They just panicked and were like,
oh God, we can't do a safety car
before the end of the race.
So they're just like, Red Flag.
What does Red Flag?
And then after that, that's all they did.
We had Red Flag
restart, a sector,
Red Flag,
finished the race.
and then another red.
They red flagged after the race had finished.
How does that work?
How can you red flag a race that's already done?
They got red flag.
I don't know.
Just really twitchy finger on the old red flag.
So first one, I think, is fine.
Second one.
I think Ben, you said this at the time.
Why was it even a full safety car initially for Magnuson's crash?
Because he did pull off.
I guess the debris, yeah.
But get that not.
I think so hard.
literally in the middle of the track.
I know, I get that, but you can pick that up quite easily under a VSC, I think.
Anyway, I don't think it.
Fine, I'll argue the VSE safety car, but I don't think a red flag would necessarily
just felt like they panicked a bit because they saw the end of the race was coming.
And there's, I guess, Monsa, 2022 as well.
They got a bit burnt there than they finished it under a safety car,
which probably would have been, would have happened here.
You were there for that.
That was popular.
It went down really well.
People loved it.
Stop Charlotte Claire winning.
Well, Charlotte Claire didn't need much stopping of winning today.
He did that all by himself one lap in.
But yeah, actually, no, before I say anything else,
there is something else I need to address,
just in case anyone hasn't got the memo
because of Sam's moronic April Fool's post yesterday.
I'm not leaving, okay?
I'm still here and I'm staying here, okay?
So many of you for bags of chips all over the world.
people getting chips
after right and centre.
Anyway,
just that's it.
Just for what I'd address that
in case anyone was wondering.
Yeah, the actual race,
what an in,
what a mess.
What an embarrassment
to Formula One that was.
I mean,
yeah,
I agree with you on the first red flag.
That was okay.
The second one,
I initially thought as well,
VSE would have been fine,
although that was just based
on Magnuson pulling off.
I didn't see,
at that point, the debris and the tire, at which point I thought, yeah, okay, full course is okay
for that. But I didn't understand the need for a red flag. And it did just seem as if either A,
they panicked, like you mentioned, Harry, or they realized that they could get a two or three lap shoot
out at the end of the Grand Prix. That will be entertaining. Let's see if we can do that. We want to
finish under green flag conditions, which I don't particularly love because red flags and yellow flags,
safety cars, VCs, they should all exist for one reason and one reason only, and that's safety.
So they shouldn't exist for the sake of entertainment. And I feel like they did here at the end of
this Grand Prix, which was a shame to see. Having said that, the driver should still, you know,
be functional people in terms of a restart. That was one of the worst restarts I've seen in a
very long time. There was multiple amateurish moves, really amateurish moves from, and it wasn't
just one or two, you could probably pick out like four or five amateurish things that happened
in that, in that restart. And we're only covering the span of about 30 seconds here. It's not like
there were five mistakes made over the course of 15 laps. It was five mistakes in about 10 seconds.
and we'll get into the actual incidents, probably one by one, in our second segment.
But in terms of the way they actually ordered in the end, I think it was probably right after the
red flag was called.
It's a bit of a tough one in that you want to negate anything that happened on that lap that
didn't happen.
But at the same time, you've got multiple things that can't really be avoided.
So Carlos signs getting the penalty, the two Alpines being retired and not able to go back on the track.
You can't completely invalidate that lap, but they did somewhat, which is a bit messy,
but also I'm not quite sure what other solution would have been out there for that exact situation.
I thought they did that right.
I joked before we came online to say that maybe they should have got tow trucks out
and just made sure the Alpines could get round to the check and flag to properly invalidate that lap.
Unfortunately, for Alpine, they couldn't do that solution.
But yeah, I just thought the whole closing scenario, it was dramatic, sure, but not dramatic in the right way.
I thought it was really an embarrassment.
Again, for anyone new to Formula One, just watching this for the first time or the third time,
if they picked it up at the beginning of this Grand Prix, it's just a mess.
No one knowing what's happening, the drivers, the teams, the rules guys, the FIA,
they're all as clueless as one another when this situation arises.
There shouldn't be the avoidance of any doubt in that situation.
And yet there was.
And we were, you know, sat around for about an hour to watch not even one sector of racing,
which isn't a good look for anyone, really.
I'm always keen for good drama
but this wasn't,
I don't think this was good drama.
And the race itself that preceded it,
I didn't think was very good.
I thought it was okay, maybe,
but I don't think it got any better than okay.
I think red flags ruined it.
I tweeted,
it was quite worrying for Formula One
that so many officials didn't know
how to resolve this red flag problem.
They didn't know what the restart would look like.
And there is such an overcomplication of rules at the moment
that teams are struggling and, you know,
these incredibly intelligent people, the three of us, which are not,
are struggling to put together how your own sport
is meant to carry on from something that could happen in theory
at every single racetrack, right?
There could be a restart and then a crash on the first lap.
It's not uncommon to think that that might happen.
And we had people in our Discord, which was absolutely popping, by the way, folks.
you know, look to the description, join it because it was immense.
A lot of people asking us and, you know,
maybe people who've been watching the sport for longer,
what's going on, what's the procedure here?
Is there any precedent for this?
Don't understand what's happening.
And if there are, you know, well over a thousand people in that chat at any point going,
I don't understand what's going on,
there must be people who have sat down to watch drive to survive
for the first time this year,
gone, I'll give F1 a go, third grade of the season,
I don't understand what's happening.
Why is a long so suddenly back in P3?
Why don't the Alpins get to have a go then if that's the same rule set?
And it's not explained well at all.
There was at one point someone mentioned, I think, on commentary,
which is a slip of the tongue that can definitely misinform,
that they weren't allowed to change their tyres under the reg flag,
when the rule is very much, well, every car can change their tires under the reg flag.
I think it was quickly cleared up that they can.
And it's just, it's a bit messy.
It's like, it's a bit massing.
Which we'll get onto because, you know, that's like your ex-girlfriend walking in on your honeymoon with your new wife, isn't it?
Like, what's he doing?
Anyway, they need to work out a red flower procedure.
They need to go through the regulations and just simplify.
Like I said a little while ago, Formula One rules for dummies.
Make it a new book.
Go through it again.
Clear as day and night, please.
I want to know what the rule means because it was an absolute mess.
And they threw out the red flags a bit too skittishly, a bit too like.
Like there was almost like a cat and you put like a little full.
fly on the red flag button and it kept landing on it and the cat kept trying to bat the fly,
but then it just set the red flag thing off again. A bit of a mess. All very silly.
I think the irony is, and you bring up Michael Massey, I think they had the solution.
I just think they had the wrong execution a couple of years ago when Massey was in the role.
So I think that that way of working was correct that there is one person overseeing everything
who is accountable, who is directly accountable,
and there's no confusion over multiple officials,
because it's just one person who's at the top of that train.
I think the problem is they didn't have the right person
in order to execute that.
I don't think Massey was ever strong enough to be able to do it.
But I think the actual solution was correct.
And it was much more transparent then as well,
in terms of communications from Michael Massey.
We see it in Formula E.
There's a lot more transparency when it comes to race director comms
to the teams.
We had that for one season.
They took it away, ultimately,
which I didn't agree with.
I thought that that should actually stay.
But yeah, you're right.
Bit of a mess.
I mean, it makes you,
I mean, we all do anyway,
but the amount of respect that you give to someone
like Charlie Whiting now,
who used to run what feels like the entire sport,
God rest his soul, you know,
not with us anymore, sadly,
because I would love him to be here
because, oh, would he clean up this mess
a heartbeat, I feel like. Yeah, he most likely would. In terms of the race before all of that
happened, obviously Max Verstappen took the race win. I want to at least get Max Verstappen involved here
in this review because there wasn't actually too much to say about him because he just won by,
well, in the end, not a massive margin, but technically speaking, Harry, what did you make of the way
that he had two poor,
two poor starts, obviously,
but outside of that,
same old, same old.
Yeah, same old, same old for matches.
I mean, he had that little tiny off
in the penultimate corner, didn't he?
But that was, you know,
make it slightly exciting.
It dropped four seconds to Hamilton and that was it,
but then pulled it back out again.
So, yeah, I think they said this in the commentary.
He's just remarkably,
and I feel like we've said,
before, but he's remarkably calm now when things...
I mean, there's still the odd outbursts.
We saw a bit in Jeddah.
But when things don't go according to plan, like the start,
so, you know, he loses out to Russell and Hamilton.
And again, at the restart, the first restart,
he didn't get past Hamilton straight away.
But it's just sort of...
It just bides his time, doesn't he?
He doesn't send one down the inside for no reason.
Looking at you, Carlos Sons.
Yes.
Oh, no, no.
Carlos Bowling Bowl and you, Logan, Corporal.
It'll be demoted to private at this rate.
Oh.
Got him.
Yeah, but if it's happened, it was just very measured once again.
Yeah, the starts were the only thing that looked slightly dodgy, to be honest,
and the only thing to let him down.
And I'm sure he was that final restart we had.
That's probably the most nervy bit for his race,
because the only thing that wasn't that great were the starts,
and he could have well have lost it to Hounton there.
So other than that, it was a very good measured for Stappen being good at the F1 win, wasn't it?
Sam, I think Harry sums it up pretty well there,
but he was pretty good at the F1 out there.
He's almost bulletproof, isn't he?
He really is ascending himself to the very top.
And I feel like now, you know, obviously everyone loves to run through their greatest drivers of all time.
I think if you were to put the staffing in your top 10 list at this point,
I will happily listen to your debate.
I quite happily listen to all your reasoning because everything he does,
even when there are mistakes involved, it's not that he won't make mistakes.
It's often, you know, how do you look classically,
how do you learn from your mistakes and how do you recover from them?
And, you know, Bostappan four or five years ago would.
If he had gone off the track like that at the last corner,
he might respond the car trying to get back on the circuit.
He might have burned up his tires.
He might have an absolute going, a wobble, and then lost your on his pace.
And even the bag starts, which show that the Red Bull has got signs of weakness.
It's not invincible.
We saw that with, you know, Sergio's car as well this weekend.
He's had problems with, you know, brakes and whatnot.
So there are issues there.
But he's just being able to pull out the extra percent that you need to get the result done.
I mean, the start was bad.
It was a bad start from your race league from a two-time world champion.
It wasn't good to drop down a third place.
And kudos to both Russell and Hamilton for getting their elbows out.
And they made it exciting at the start.
And I was very happy to see that we had a fight on our hands.
But the moment that DRS became active, he took his time.
Bye-bye.
But yeah.
Bye-bye.
Literally, he's come and gone.
You know, he's like the milkman in the night.
You wake up in the morning and suddenly there's milk on your doorstep.
But you can never see him around.
because he always delivers.
And the staff,
he absolutely delivered.
It was, you know,
he was invincible, really.
When you've got a car that is that good
and a driver that is that good,
you don't need to panic
when it's not going your way at a moment.
And he's sensational.
He deserves all the plaudits he gets.
We'll take a short break,
our first one of the review.
We'll be trying to dissect
the incidents that happened.
We're going to turn into Commentary Corner
right after this.
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Okay, so there were a lot of incidents that took place out on the track.
today. Only one penalty at the moment, I think, has been applied, which was the five second
penalty for Carlos Sines, although they might as well have just disqualified him, to be honest.
It would have had the same impact. But I think that was the only one, unless I'm missing anything.
There were plenty of things that happened out there. I'm going to run through five penalties,
I think should have been applied. And I want you to tell me whether you agree with all of them,
or you'd go a different way with any of them.
Firstly, the one that did actually happen.
The car lost signs penalty, five seconds.
Mitigating circumstances, David Croft.
Mitigating circumstances such as what?
Driving into another car?
I don't think that counts.
That is a slam dunk.
Alonso was 90% of the way through the corner
when he was tagged by Carlos Sines.
Carlos Sines started the move back at the last corner, I think.
That was a slam dunk penalty, five seconds.
Obviously, the way that these time penalties work,
occasionally they're going to be much more impactful than at other times.
Here, it was a complete and utter disaster to get a five second time penalty.
As we saw in Jeddah, for example, when Alonzo got a five second penalty,
did not matter whatsoever.
I'm afraid that's just how it goes with these things.
So I agree with the FIA on that one.
but I think they missed a lot.
And maybe they're getting to some of them after the race.
I don't know.
Who did we have?
The one that Harry's already mentioned, Logan Corporal.
Again, just a top tip from me when it comes to racing.
Get it in the book.
Don't drive into the back of another car.
That isn't allowed.
So I think that's probably worthy of a penalty.
I've had to look through the racing conduct book.
Can't see that anywhere in there.
So I'm going to give that one
a five-second penalty.
Nick DeVries,
you're not allowed to drive
into another car either.
Esteban Ockon, apparently...
Okay, Esteban Ockon today,
Leplan,
it just doesn't exist.
Everyone pretended
he was not there.
Maybe it's the pink of that car in the sun.
I don't know.
But twice today,
because I'm going to get onto the other one
in a moment,
just decided to drive into him, poor guy.
He's trying to execute the planet.
So Nick DeFries, I think, should have got a penalty for that.
Same sort of thing, Pierre Gasley.
I would start having a lookout, Pene, as to who's going to drive for you in Baku,
because I don't think it ain't going to be Pierre Gasly with those penalty points racking up.
Jack Dewan might be the happiest man in all of Australia at the moment,
because he might well be the one who jumps up to that race seat in Baku.
I mean, there were comments of maybe he didn't see him.
And he was coming back onto the track at like five miles an hour.
You should probably assume that there's going to be a car on the outside going much quicker than you.
That's a slam dunk penalty.
And the last one, and some will probably argue that he was already penalised because of the way that his race ended, but I don't think it matters.
Charles LeClaire drove into Landstrol at the start.
I'd probably penalise that as well.
Again, we don't want to let the consequences dictate the action.
So I think all five of those are penalties.
Sam, of those five, and any more maybe that I missed, what do you reckon?
Okay, yeah, let's crack on.
Right, so Carlos Sites, people are saying,
yeah, misgating circumstances.
If you want to see how Ben reacted in the moment to that comment coming out from the
commentary team, go and check our Twitter.
I've taken a screenshot of it.
Ben was not best, please.
Me and Harry had quite a giggle.
Anyway, I fully agree that.
I don't care what part of the race were wrong.
I don't care if it's a restart, the first start,
the last call, and the first call,
and the last lap, the last lap.
Yeah, drove straight into someone else
when you weren't even close to them.
It's a penalty, sunshine.
Back of the Grig for you.
Ban.
What was the next one?
Logan Private.
Demoted.
Again, yeah, you don't really just drive straight into people.
Not how Formula One works.
So, ban.
penalty.
What was the next one?
Nick to freeze.
Yeah, you know,
you hang a bit of a bumper ride
of a race.
Oh, Nick, didn't you?
There was a lot of things
that went around for you.
Do you remember that moment
where we were behind one of the safety cars
for the restart?
And then he just drove across the gravel.
He just overtook everyone
under the safety car.
Wasn't that Magnuson?
Oh, I don't care it was.
There were so many of them doing it.
They're all bad.
No, not bad, but you know what I mean?
Stupid.
Yep.
What was the next one?
Charlerclair, right?
Oh, no, the Ghazi one.
Gasly.
And I think we should get on to this one a little bit more
because I think we had a debate
towards the end of the year
right before Abu Dhabi
whether Pierre Ghazly should almost do something
like cut the track enough times
to pick up a penalty point
that meant that he was banned from Abu Dhabi
and then his new race, new season would start completely clean.
It feels like a smart move now, doesn't it, Pierre?
You silly boy.
Because you were having, before the last,
lap, essentially. Drive of the day for me. You were guessing driver of the day. I was going to come
here and I was going to go, whoop-de-do, Pierre Gaz is absolutely fresh and knock on. Isn't he having a
great time? My driver predictions look fantastic. Hey! And then he's ruined the, not just the car,
not as his teammates car, but that lovely relationship that he was building with Esteban.
That's going to go, because we know what Esteban's like. He's going to never let that go now.
So, yeah, that's a penalty. It'll be a race band. Chat doing, you're having a lovely time, sunshine.
Bam, penalty. And the last one, Charlotte.
clear, we do not on this podcast let the aftermath of an incident decide a penalty.
Your penalties decide on your actions that lead up to whether you retire or there's damage
or whatever it might be.
You drove into someone, Sunshine.
Lance Struggle's still there.
Also, why were you turning so early?
The corner wasn't there yet.
You haven't reached it.
You just went, don't like Canadians, apparently.
So I'm going to drive straight into the side of you.
Paraphrase.
Paraphrase.
Don't clip that, folks.
Anyway, it was silly.
Charlotte, Clair deserves to be sat in a hotel room somewhere being annoyed because what a stupid move.
Ferrari having an absolute nightmare this season.
What, no points are getting for LeClau.
I think he's on eight after three races this season.
His worst tally in, what, four, five years?
Yeah, penalty.
Six years, wow.
I would, thank you.
Six points, sorry.
Oh, okay, again, works either way.
I would actually give him a penalty for next race for that because it can't be applied,
during the Australian Grand Prix,
but it would be a five-second time penalty to be applied.
So, yeah, I think you're bang on with all of them.
They all deserve some kind of penalty actions be taken.
Harry, of the three of us,
you're probably the most lenient when it comes to penalties.
So interested to know if some of those wouldn't apply in your world
or whether there is anything else that we've missed.
Even in my world,
even in my world, all of those penalties.
disgusting, a lot of years.
Yeah,
we said this before we started recording.
How signs this penalty was applied so quickly
and nothing has been mentioned about Logan Private
who just rammed DeFries off the track.
Don't even make, at least, to defend signs,
at least he was kind of making the corner.
Sergeant wasn't making that corner if he'd started breaking it from Jedder,
I don't think.
Sergeant would have gone on to hit Ralph Schumacher
who crashed there 21 years ago
Got back in time
He breaks so late
Oh no
I can't plug my headphones
Oh no he can't hear us
I can't up
Yeah so I agree with all of them
The Gassley one
Just look in your mirror son
You've gone off the track
Trying to defend
From what was he on in P4
or trying to attack people
you've gone off track
it's your own fault
at least look
who's behind you
when you've rejoined
especially if it's your teammate
so yeah
that's a that's a pen for me
Lecler I agree as well
it was just clumsy
Charlotte Glenn
maybe it's only in races
where it begins with
Oz that he doesn't know
how wide his car is
forgets the side of his own vehicle
Australia and Austria
just not aware
about how big is Ferrari is.
Yeah, so I agree with that one.
What was the other one?
Oh, yeah, DeFries as well.
That was before everything else happened,
that was almost going to be my moment of the race,
just because he just like opened,
the steering was that way.
Then was there.
Just going to hit,
Ockon.
He's not there.
He's invisible.
So, yeah, I think that deserves a penalty as well.
And I can't remember what the other one was,
but I agree.
Leclair, right?
Oh, no, we done Leclair.
I don't know. They all sucks.
You'll rub it to a lot of this.
Get us in there next time, but that is terrible.
I was trying to think many more, but I don't think there is.
I mean, Sam's already brought it up.
I don't know, and I haven't really reviewed it yet,
the Magnuson's trip across the gravel
and everything that happened in that incident.
There might have been something there.
I think Snowden was the one who was literally stationary,
and that's why Magnuson was flying across the gravel,
but I need to watch that again.
But they just said it's not worth investigating, right?
Nothing doing there.
Everyone's fine.
Nah.
Got enough on our plates.
Got me bothered.
Got a red flag to throw.
Have a other one.
And the other one.
Driver of the day,
somehow got to pick someone.
Who you going for, Sam?
I think, yeah, just because of the lack of action.
No, actually, you know what?
you made a mistake on the last corner.
And for me, that's got good enough.
I go, Lewis Hamilton.
Did a great job.
Short sweep.
Fair enough.
Driver of the day from you, Harry.
Well, I was with Sam.
It was going to be Pierre Gazley until he was an idiot.
So, um, it's Lando Norris.
That's a great shout.
Fair.
Excellent drive.
And very good considering, and we've already mentioned,
the McLaren is slow as bull.
Oh, my God.
If balls could be any slower,
McLara would have them.
So slow.
But yeah, a great drive.
And actually, to be fair,
I want to give his teammate a shout out.
He didn't have a great day on Saturday,
but, you know, scoring your first points for your home race,
that's pretty cool.
But anyway, Norris showed why Norris is good, didn't need today.
The move on Holkenberg that he'd been teeing up for,
I don't know, the entire race it felt like,
but it was a dirty little,
switchback move and I love a switchback.
So, yeah, Lano.
It was filth, pure
filth. Also,
it's just so funny that there are
four corners that occur
after DRS zones
and Lando Norris could not use any of them
to get by Nika Holkenberg. So he had to get
creative because that McLaren is so
slow. Oh,
my driver of the day,
so, yeah, Pierre
Ghazley, yeah, Gassley had a good race
up until the point that, you
didn't. So I can't give it to him. But to be fair, he was in a good position thanks to
Esteban Ockon deciding to go with what would have probably worked out to be a good strategy
early on, going on to the hard tires, the first time of asking. Pierre Gasly stayed out
on the softs and then benefited from the red flag. So I might not have given it to him because
of that anyway. Similarly for Lewis Hamilton, Russell might well have beaten him if it didn't
go that way. So I don't want to give it to him either.
Stappen had two poor starts
plus an error in the penultimate
corner, so for once I won't give it to
Vastappen either.
I think Hulk or Norris
I'll go with Holkenberg because
I feel so bad
for him that P3 was actually
within his grasp. The penalty
was applied, so it was all
based on the ordering at the end. If it
was done based on the order after
the first sector of that restart,
Holcomberg would have got his first podium
ever. And instead,
he picks up some good points.
I'm sure he'd be happy with that,
but I mean, that's,
that's gotta hurt.
Can I,
am I being too harsh
to not give it to Hulkie B
because of his silly gravel moment
after the Norris fight?
I mean, he probably shouldn't have,
he was trying to hold on, wasn't he?
But I, maybe,
maybe give that one up earlier, Nico,
but I, to be dramatic.
Or something to be traumatic.
He did have a good race.
He did, uh,
I mean, it's defending towards the Amazon
a little bit.
Dodge.
It definitely double-kinked there, didn't they?
To be fair, on any other race, I'd probably go,
yeah, you've got a good point,
but that probably wouldn't make the top 20
of dubious driving out there today,
so maybe not in this Grand Prix.
Also, not one to get into now,
maybe one to get into in a future episode.
Qualifying-wise, Hulk be quick.
Hulk be a far away.
What's that?
Like I said, maybe we'll get onto that discussion at some other point.
Worst driver of the day.
You can only pick one, Sam.
I appreciate this might be tricky.
Okay, right, let's go through it, guys.
So, LeCler wasn't in it long enough for it to be worse rather than the day,
but he was not very good for the whole weekend anyway.
DeVries, he didn't even beat his teammate who had severe issues
towards the end of the grid.
It was complaining that it's carding at work.
So, I mean, I'm going to have to get it to Valtry Bottas, actually,
because where'd be Bottas for the entire weekend?
Where he'd be?
Yeah, where they'd be?
How is Joe ending up with points here?
Joe Guan Yu, he ninth after all that carnage.
I mean, fair play to him,
but Bottas, who qualified awfully, the car is not good.
And then for the whole race,
he just trundled around at the back.
And, I mean, I respect the fact that he didn't do bowling ball ball ball,
Botas at any of the restarts.
But what, is he too focused on lovely coffee and having a mullet?
And I love him for it.
My, I'd rather ee be scoring points, you know?
And it wasn't very good.
So, Bottas.
You actually missed something there.
Bottas pitted for softs right at the end to take a fastest lap point away from Alpine.
I forgot that he was playing the game.
Good job.
Big time strap.
Oh, jeez.
My worst driver of the day.
There are so many contenders.
So many contenders.
You had Charles LeClau, who's race ended because of his own error.
You had Alex Albin who's race ended because of his own error.
Oh, Alex.
Ditto Kevin Magnuson.
So you've got three drivers there who ruin their own race.
Pierre Gazley tried to kill his teammate.
Nick DeVries was pretty bad.
Logan Corporal was pretty bad.
You've already mentioned Valtrey Bottas.
that's nearly half the grid already.
I'm going to go for,
I'm going to go for Logan Corporal here
because he was,
he was just slow all day.
And I know Alex Albin,
Alex Albin retiring makes him look a little bit better
than what perhaps happened.
Because if Albin holds on to finish,
you know, P6, P7,
that was definitely on the cards,
then Logan Sargent's performance
probably is highlighted a little bit more.
And then that incident right on the,
right at the end,
just capped it off. So I'll go with him.
Sargent's fall from positivity
over the last three races has been pretty abrupt, right?
I imagine he's got a few bruises from hitting the ground that hard.
There's something there with him.
There is something there, but it is
untapped at the moment. It's raw.
Like, it's not refined in any way.
Harry, worst driver of the day?
All of them.
Good.
I don't know.
Just for the restart, it was awful.
Terrible.
No, I will go for, who was also bad, I haven't been picked.
Magnuson, what he'd doing?
You were just slow.
You're also slow.
Holkenberg's done you.
So I go K-Magg, but all of the above choices that you said, I'd also go for two.
What about a big brain moment of the race, Sam?
Oh, I forgot this was even part of a show.
I've been thought about it with so many.
I'm going to go with...
It's not his fault.
I'm going to go with George Russell,
pitting under the safety car,
and thinking that he,
because he does this all the time,
he tries to get a bit too eager with strategy sometimes,
and it never seems to actually work out.
He dives straight into the pit lane.
Look at me, I'm on the odd tire, red flag.
And it's just like, oh, Judge.
It's not his fault,
but I do think that the mate,
away immediately backfired,
and they cut to George Russell,
looking like he was about to cry in the back of the pit lane
was somewhat comedic.
So, yeah, I'm going to go with George Rosson's strategy call.
Harry, big brain moment of the race?
My one is Lance Strode being P3 for approximately six seconds
and then just not breaking for turn three.
That's my big brain moment of the day.
I mean, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
He ended up P4.
Well, that was the big brain moment part of it.
He knew it wouldn't matter.
Yeah.
He'd already worked out that it wasn't going to count.
I mean, on that point, Fernando Alonzo being one of the most switched on humans in history,
he's still having his accent.
He's like, well, that won't count because there was a red flag.
Finns knows the future.
Man's going to start reciting the FIA rule book at some point, isn't he?
He's going to be like, well, actually, under Section 3.42, that can't be allowed.
I'm surprised his onboard camera doesn't show him with his hand out of the cockpit
while he's spinning going like, give me, give me the P3, put it back in my hand.
Oh, worry.
That man, do you remember the show?
I don't know if you've watched it, that you and McGregor and Charlie Borman did
when they record The Long Way Round and they rode motorbikes all the way around the world, right?
That should be the title of Alonso's F1 book, the long way round to get a podium
because the man seems to come off it every week and he's still back on it at the end.
how many ways to get three away three.
Yeah.
Big brain moment of the race for me
was actually Kevin Magnuson going with the
rarely spotted three-wheel strat.
Didn't quite work out, but I appreciate
the boldness of giving it a go.
You probably saw Lewis Hamlet to do it at Silverstone and thought,
you know what, when I'm backing F1, I'll have a go at that.
Yeah.
Also, just a bit of an odd
just drove into the wall.
Was he blind? Did the sun going his eyes?
Wasn't like a little snap of oversteering?
Just drive him to the wall.
Don't need that wheel anymore.
Off we go.
Overrated.
If he was playing overrated, underrated with us,
and we said, your wheel, he'd go overrated.
Having four wheels.
Overrated, mate.
Definitely, overweight.
Weight saving.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
We'll be discussing Sergio Perez's fight back through the field right after this.
So Sergio Perez didn't have the best Saturday going.
A bit of a role reversal from last time out in Jeddah,
where it was his teammate that didn't have a good time of it on the Saturday.
This time it was Sergio Perez.
Pit lane start for him, thanks to his car not quite working, basically.
Just didn't want to turn, did it in qualifying?
Starting last, or starting from the pit lane,
eventually came back through the field.
Sam, what did you make of some of the moves that he pulled off?
do you think he pretty much maximised what he could have achieved from that starting position?
So, oh, I was having a bit of a moan about this in the discord.
A moan's probably too harsh, but I was definitely asking some questions of old Sergio.
And I felt like with that car's performance, especially the way it works under the IRS,
out of all the cars, you remember when Mercedes used to be so dominant at the front of the field,
but we'd always say the moment they fell back into the pack, whether it be from a pit stop or from, you know, engine trouble,
that they couldn't ever overtake again
because the dirty air affected them so badly.
The Red Bull is almost the opposite of that.
While it's fantastic out the front,
the moment you give it DRS capabilities,
a track that has four DRS zones,
it should be like,
run like the wing balls, right?
Nothing can stop Sergio Perez.
And to be fair to him,
he put on some absolute bangers of an overtake,
right, going around the outside,
going up the inside,
a bit of late breaking,
a bit of the old switchy-roo.
You know, he did everything,
and that he could get done to get the moves done.
I'll respect him for it.
But he was hindered a little bit by safety cars.
He was hindering a little bit by reg flags
because strategy meant that everyone came to the same tyre and whatnot.
But I do feel like before the final red flag incident that we had with Magnuson,
I thought he would be further up the grid at that point.
I did just think that the car's ability, the raw ability of that car has,
would have seen him fighting with the likes of Alonso, Sainz, Gassley, already.
it was barely up to Norris
and Norris put up an absolute scrap
when they did come together
and I just thought
it'd be further along than this
so while he did well
to get the car clean
he managed the car
especially after he was struggling with it
for the whole weekend
he's only got himself to blame
for it to be really back there
I suppose because he was struggling
so badly for in qualifying
but he recovered to get some points
actually with the way that the safety car
proceedings ending things I think he finished
what P5 so he picks up okay points
it's still relatively decent
I just expect to go a little bit more.
You know, with the track, how it's laid out,
what the Red Bull is capable of,
and all that DRS available to him,
I just expect to go a little bit more.
But it's coming to be sniffed at.
I'm not going to go away from here thinking,
Perez, you're washed.
It was fine.
Harry, did you expect any more from Perez's fight?
Yeah, it's, I don't know what happened on,
I mean, to be fair,
I overslept and actually missed him going out and qualifying,
so that was a good start for me.
I don't know whether it was actually mechanical or not for Paris,
but from what I saw after, I awoke,
he was having a bit of a shocker on Saturday with issues with the car and stuff,
so maybe that is.
But it was a good recovery drive,
but you can't be doing, we've said this before,
you can't be doing that if you're trying to fight Max for Stauffin for a championship,
because it's the sort of errors.
the sort of areas that Vostappen wouldn't make
even if he's having car issues
he still brings it home
and to be fair to Paris he did bring it home
a fifth but arguably
it should have been second
so it was a good recovery drive today from him
but given where that car is
he should have been at least P2
so he can't afford to
if he wants to fight for this title
we can't afford to have a Saturday like that
well at all I don't say very often
but at all basically
And I'd argue as well, because you make a very fair point there, that without Sykes's penalty, that's sixth, without George Russell probably having his reliability issue, that's seventh.
So I don't feel like it was really looking that good for Sergio. I don't think he really hard.
I think if you put Max for staffing in that exact position, I think Max can carve through the field and I think he's up to third or fourth at an absolute worst.
Yeah, I think first of all, in terms of qualifying on the Saturday, I personally don't put any blame on Perez for that.
I really think that car was messed up.
You could see the wheel.
It wasn't even a lockup, I don't think.
It was just that he was turning the wheel and it was not going.
It just seemed to accelerate on braking, which fun fact shouldn't happen.
So I don't think I don't think I'll put any blame for the Saturday qualifying incident on Perez.
I think he did an all right job.
You know, the most important thing in his position was avoid incidents, right, and come home with something.
given how dominant that Red Bull is over the rest of the field,
it was within his best interest to safely claim 10 points
rather than go gung-ho and massively risk,
potentially getting 15 or maybe crashing
because of an overzealous attempt at an overtake.
I think his overtakes were well-measured.
I think they were smart for the most part.
I don't remember any lunges that I thought,
I probably wouldn't go for that.
I think whenever he was,
confident that he can make the move. He did. The one thing I was surprised at was actually
when he cleared, I guess it would have been Ocon for P9, when he was catching Lando Norris.
And he was about five and a half seconds, I think, behind Lando Norris after he cleared O'Con.
And I thought, okay, he'll be on the back of him in a few laps time. I don't think that would
take him very long. It actually took him a long time to then get to the back of Lando Norris.
That was probably the surprising part for me. Then again,
he probably had to use up his tires more to make those overtakes.
So maybe I shouldn't have been so shocked.
Overall, would Vastappen in the same spot have made a few more places?
Yes, I think he would have done.
But overall, I think Perez can be content with what happened.
Good, not great.
Can we review some bold predictions?
Yes, I would love to.
I'm so excited.
I've been looking forward to this all morning.
Sam, what was your bold prediction?
I don't remember.
There were two many parts of it, but they were all wrong.
Good. Yeah, when you go for 14-parters, generally those bold predictions don't end up.
The Astrid got points, but it's irrelevant because Norris got more points than him.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can claim that at least. Harry,
first of all, I don't know if this would have even counted based on the poll that Sam did.
You remember back to the preview, folks, Harry made the bold prediction that Fernando Alonzo won't be on the podium.
Sam said that wasn't bold enough. Put it to a poll.
in Discord. And unfortunately for you, Harry, they very much voted in the favour of Sam.
Doesn't matter anyway because it finished on the podium.
Yeah, I mean, it's like a, it's like, I don't know, I'm going to say a win-win, but
Lonters is on the podium, so personally I don't care that much. But all of you peasants in
the Discord, I hate you. So, thank you. Good. Good. Relationship management, as usual from
Harry Yead, superb. And I'm happy to say I'm on the board because McLaren I said that after a
difficult first couple of weeks that Lando Norris, or indeed any, either of the McLarence,
was going to finish in the top eight. It was looking very sketchy for a time because
Lando Norris was P9 chasing down Niko Holcomberg and seemingly not able to get past.
Folks, I was, I'd be nervous because Nika Holkenberg.
was defending like a lion, and we know that McLaren just doesn't have any...
I don't actually think it has an engine in it, just based on how quick it is on the straits.
So I didn't think he was going to make that move.
Eventually, he did, and then ultimately that kind of didn't matter anyway,
because he made up another position regardless.
But he was in the top eight, and I will join Sam on one point.
One one-0.
I think there's a rule that we forgot to mention to everyone that the game only plays to Australia.
So Harry's lost one one,
what a shame.
Hand over the logging.
So, I mean, to be honest,
us collectively getting too right
after three races is probably better
than I thought.
I thought we'd be at nil-nil-0 at this point.
I'm going to take a leaf out of the Harry E,
Book of boldness
and just go for the least bold prediction
I can next time.
For stepping to finish in the top 10
is my bold prediction next time.
I mean,
he's going to retire.
I feel like I've been done harshly here.
It wasn't the most bold,
but he's now had three podiums.
That's a pretty, you know,
it's quite a regular thing to happen.
So to say it's not going to happen.
Oh, you don't know the piece.
It brought me when they re-extated that third.
Hey, if Charles LeCler had a working car and the stewards knew what they were doing,
Alonso would have no podiums.
Yeah, true.
I'm joking, of course.
Speaking of, that battle for second in the Constructors' Championship,
a very interesting twist in the tale today.
It looked like early on Mercedes were in a very good spot.
Obviously, only one car finishing, but it was in a good position,
so Lewis Hamilton taking 18 points for.
the team. Ashton Martin went from looking at zero to getting exactly 27 points as a result of
third and fourth. That was a very important call for how they were going to reorder based on
their championship aspirations. And lastly, Ferrari ended up with nothing. So what did you make of
the battle for second, Sam, out there? When do Mercedes be good? When did that happen? It's like
Toto Wolf went...
Oh, we can't...
jumping up in round here.
It's like Toto Wolf literally when...
Shall I do the voice?
Yeah, let's hear the voice.
He went, guys, we are not good at the F-1.
And now we will change the attack.
And the next race, we'll be good.
It's not too bad?
Then he got to the end, obviously, with Hamilton getting a podium.
And he said, we be back.
and I am back
and now look at that
Mercedes are so good
that might be the worst segment
I've ever produced on this show
but Ferrari
Ferrari are absolutely in the mud
aren't they? What are they doing?
I mean they produced a car that looked okay
Carla Sites could have got past
Fernando Alonso or for a long time
Pierre Gasly
they're struggling for pace generally
they don't have the advantage in any form of the RS mode
Charles LeCler is seemingly having the worst seating
his hag since joining the scoogoria.
They are where Mercedes were last season, it feels like.
But the issue isn't really the build of the car.
The build of the car seems fine.
They're just everything else is going wrong for them.
I mean, Astor Martin, I've just got all the good fortune in the world.
They've worked so hard last season to turn their car around.
Brilliant job.
Over the winter break, they put in the hard graph.
They signed for Gando-a-Lon-So as well.
Lance Stroll is seemingly stepping up,
despite a weird little blip in the gravel today.
He's performing a good role as a number two driver.
And then even with the race decision being reversed for them,
which is okay, it's a bit lucky, but it's correct, I feel.
They get all the points in the bag.
So I think if they keep chipping away like this,
they're almost, again, doing what Mercedes-Managed to do last season.
They haven't got the fastest car.
Their line-up is a bit shaky because they don't know where they're going with things.
But at the same time, they are delivering,
and they're still fighting there.
They're kicking and screaming, but they're there.
And I'm really interested to see how this pans out.
I think Asking's biggest threat is not Ferrari, is actually going to be the resurgence of Mercedes.
And if they get their aerodynamics package and the flaw that they want to change,
sorted in time to make a meaningful impact on this season, or if it's going to come for next season.
So really interesting to see how this plays out.
And the difference might just be in driver capability.
For example, Lance Scroll, if he keeps picking up six places, while every other teammate keeps getting second third fourth,
second third four, for example, he might let the team down.
We don't know, but we saw it with the likes of Daniel Ricardo at McLaren when they were fighting Alpine.
It can happen.
Harry, what did you make of this ongoing Constructors battle for second and how events unfolded today?
Yeah, I mean, well done, Ferrari.
Not a good one, but as you say, Ben, it was quite a swing in points between lap 57 and 58.
Yeah, the Mercedes one, I would be intrigued to see.
where this goes next race
because even
it's like a similar story
to last year.
They've come away from this weekend
and it seems like they're a bit like,
oh, all right.
How did that happen?
So,
I don't know.
It was very,
it was much more impressive from them today,
no doubt.
And I think Russell,
really interesting to see on that strategy
where Russell would have ended up.
I still think this would have won.
But it was an interesting one.
Maybe Alonzo wouldn't have been on the podium.
But, yeah, it's going to be an interesting,
I think the Battle of the P1 might be boring,
but the Battle for P2 in the championship release
is going to be tasty if Mercedes can keep up that pace.
Yeah, like I said, I just, I want to wait and see
before I say that it's going to be Merck versus Aston
because the Mercedes is quite, I don't know,
temperamental.
in when it likes to be a good car
and when it doesn't like to be a good car.
Australia last year they had it,
it wasn't as good as this one,
but they had a fairly decent race there as well.
So I'll hold with big your breath.
But if it is a Merck-Aston-Ferari fight for P2,
that could be extremely tasty.
Having said that, Ferrari score some points.
That would help.
It's a good tip, I think,
if you want to at least be P2,
at the moment it's not looking good for you.
Yeah, it's not looking great.
is it? Yeah, to start with Mercedes, even though they did have that one retirement with George Russell
today, it seems like they're going to play the same role as they did last year, where
car isn't brilliant, but they've got a great lineup and they'll generally be quite consistent
and try and avoid making errors and will probably just come through like that. That's certainly
what Lewis Hamilton did today. Obviously, George Russell's in a different position, and he's now, you know,
about 20 points behind Lewis Hamilton in the championship as a result of that DNF.
But again, he looked like he was in a good spot.
And qualifying-wise, Russell's been good this year.
So I think they've got the line-up to execute second if the car is there as well.
From Aston Martin's perspective, yep, they can be very fortunate that the end ended the way that
they wanted to.
But Alonzo, you know, continues pace-wise to be on it.
Three podiums out of three, speaks volumes there.
Landstrol, I still have my concerns that he might be the deciding factor and not in a positive way, but that remains to be seen.
Ferrari, though.
Oh, geez.
Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari.
I don't even know what to say at this point.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You remember on the preview episode, we do a segment called Under Pressure.
and I said Ferrari's under pressure this weekend, and I gave this reason why.
I said, first of all, they're not doing very well this season, but the problem is that the first two
races, they've had two different reasons as to why they haven't been very good.
First race weekend was because of reliability.
Shell LeClaire broke down.
Second race weekend was because they were just slow.
They were really slow in Saudi Arabia.
And I said, I'm worried because they still haven't used their Trump card, which is bad.
strategy. Surely that's going to be a third reason at some point. The problem is they pecked up zero
points here today and it was another reason entirely that wasn't strategy. This time it was driver error.
They have got now three bad results from three Grand Prix, all of which have no common elements.
They've been completely different reasons every time. Here we had both drivers effectively in their
own race. So if we're talking numbers here, three races, three different reasons why they haven't
scored as many points as they should, and we've still got bad strategy to go, folks. We do
want any race now. I can feel it in my bones. The scary part is they're closer to Williams in
points who are currently last than they are to Mercedes, who are the team in front of them in the
points, right? They're already 30 points behind third place in the standings. And,
even more worrying than that is that you most would argue, including myself, that Williams
should have more points.
Like, Williams said, you know, Albin should have scored points to date.
I think they had the point, the pace to score points in Jedder as well.
And that's, that's, that is still true.
No, no, no, no.
You know, you know, the gif of, and I can't remember the guy's name, it's on one of those
comedy programs where it slowly pangs into his face as he's desperately trying.
not to laugh.
You can just see his whole mouth like,
that is kind of how it feels watching Ferrari.
It's so hard because you can't help but love Ferrari, right?
As a racing fan, you do.
Everyone has a soft spot for them.
But watching this fall apart is hard not to go,
what are you doing?
You've got all that money and talent.
What is going on?
It is a mess.
The driving talent today from both drivers wasn't that great.
It was like an F1 lobby.
It's like an online lobby.
Could you imagine at Freddie Vassar's Big Vassi's first press conference
being given the opportunity to ask the first question to him
and say, okay, congratulations, Mr. Vasser on the new role,
really looking forward to see what you can do at Ferrari.
How would you react, Mr. Vass,
if I told you that Nika Holkenberg is going to be ahead of Charles LeClair
in the Drivers' Championship after three races?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm afraid that's the situation.
Oh, I didn't even know that.
I mean, six points each, but Holkenberg's ahead on Countback.
Gunter likes this.
Lando Norris is two points clear of Sholoklare now.
Dear, oh dear, that's enough of Ferrari.
I'm sure we'll get onto them in another podcast very soon.
We'll take one last break, and then we're going to have some Discord submissions.
right after this.
Moment of the race.
Sam, what have you got?
So many moments to choose
from.
And I don't really know
what one to pick. I had a few in
mind, and it's kind of all going out
the window, quite frankly. I think
the one I'm going to go for
is
probably, actually, the battle
between Lando Norris and Holkenberg.
Because out of all the
carnage and the chaos that happened
up and down the grid.
To see two drivers and a driver that couldn't use DRS properly to execute a move, because
again, as we mentioned in this podcast multiple times, that would be slow as balls.
You know, he had to get creative with it.
And he sent a bit of a dummy.
We saw a great little switchback come through.
Holgerberg put up a really good defence.
It was a really good wheel-to-wheel fight around the tricky part of the track that was
exciting to watch.
And for me, that's what F-1 is.
as a categorical, what is Formula One?
That is Formula One for me.
Will to wheel, hardcore racing, where two drivers put everything into it,
and it's clean as you like.
That was fantastic.
So for me, ignore the carnage.
That was what I wanted to see.
Harry, moment of the race.
That's a good contender, but I'll be the boring, obvious one here.
It's the second race to heart.
I don't think I've seen...
They just all forgot they were.
F1 drivers for like 30 seconds.
I don't really understand what happened.
I don't know, especially considering
most of the race was fairly standard.
There was a bit of good action, as Sam mentioned,
with the Holkenberg Norris fight.
There were a few tasty moves into the fast chicanicane,
which I guess maybe the fourth Deroa
has helped that up for debate.
But then, yeah, and they were all fairly well behaved
for the most part, and then they just all forgot.
They all lost their heads.
for the last lap
and then it was just complete
complete carnage.
He didn't even get involved, but like Sergio Perez
just not doing turn two either.
It wasn't involved literally anything,
but this is a man who finished fifth in the end.
I just didn't do the track.
So, yeah, it's got to be,
it's got to be that restart for me,
for my moment of the race.
I'm glad you brought up Sergio Perez's restart
because that might be like
the sixth most notable thing that happened on a restart,
which just tells you everything you need to know.
My moment of the race was Carlos Sinesis Team Radio.
What possible, you just, you drove into him.
He might say that his mitigating circumstances
where the car was broke,
it doesn't matter.
You still drove in.
Your car still went into Fernando's car,
which meant that it went off to the,
side of the track and he would have finished last.
Like, that still happened.
It doesn't matter why.
I just found that quite funny.
It was good.
I enjoyed that they showed the replay of him with his hand gestures in the car
whilst he's doing the team radio as well.
Excellent.
I guess I'd just love to get produced the outrage from you, Ben.
For me, that was the best bit of that whole incident,
was your absolute fury in our text chat that we have.
I just...
I'm just so baffled.
did you get quite swearing.
I am sorry, David Croft.
I don't mean it,
but I didn't really know
what you were on about there.
You were talking absolute rubbish.
Let's see some submissions from Discord.
If you want to get involved in these very easily,
you get into the Discord as a result of the link
that will be in the description of this episode.
We've got a channel in there called submission,
so on these race reviews,
we ask for 30-second audio clips or so
just after the race ends,
that's when we record.
So we're going to play out a few from today.
And we'll start with Marine.
Hey, everyone.
This is Marine, and I'm here to submit my moment of the race,
which is Yuki Sonoda finally getting his point.
Should have been P5, but with the mess, I will take P10.
So have a good time recording.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
We've had a struggle over here, but thank you for your submission.
I just started to interrupt submissions.
I've seen two things.
one that O'Connor and Gassley are with the stewards
that race band Becoming
and then the other one that Hassam
just protested the result of the race
so it's all going well in the whole race
just put it in the big
I'm just imagining O'Conn and
Gasley with the stewards and you've got like
a representative of the team going
you know what? Nah it's all right
I don't think you need a penalty on this occasion
having to think about it
nah he's all right
O'Con you're all right on you mate
O'con's seving secret
quickly.
You're so fine.
Oh, God.
Let's say from Hectady.
My moment of the race is the FIA
deciding to announce the five-second penalty
of the Carlow signs before the last formation lap,
screwing about the points.
A little sniffle of the microphone there at the end.
It might have been a bear.
It might have been eaten.
Well, if you have been eating,
please let us go in Wingshays episode
because I'd love to hear that story.
If the bear is listening,
please can you talk about
how you ate him?
Submission life from a bear's stomach.
We need to move on.
Chewbacher.
Lord Farkod in the
dragon's stomach.
Oh, ho, ho!
He's staying alive.
Mongo.
Oh no.
I just
I don't even know where to start with this race.
I'm confused, but I think my moment of the race would have to be, well, a few moments, good old
Crofti going on about Yuki Sanoda's new record of most consecutive place finishes that's
not first and how he was devastated that Carlos Science has now ruined that with his five-second
penalty. Like, that's not, um, okay.
It did seem a strange thing to fixate on, can't lie.
An interesting one, but not all that.
Let's go to Vig and Spiker next.
I don't even know what to say.
I mean, I could just say red flags, but I'll be nice, I guess, and say,
Piastri getting points in his first home
Grand Prix.
Red flags.
Cycling Dave up next.
Hi, it's cycling Dave. Car Paparazzi.
Hashtag Cars Channel and Discord.
The moment of the race is the last red flag
by the FIA.
Why? Wasn't needed.
Finished the race under yellow flag.
Signs in both Alpines.
get points and finish.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Shout out to Waffles.
For existing?
Well, the Discord went back for Waffles today,
which is great.
I mean, I now really want some waffles.
We don't have any, so I'm quite annoyed at that.
Let's go to Sam's favorite name from the Discord.
It's Kibler and Bits.
Kibbles and Biscuits!
Hello, late breakers.
It's Kibler and Mitz at 3.40 in the morning.
Good guy.
Eastern daylight time in the old US of A.
My moment of the race was Hulkenberg, breaking down on track after the race had finished,
so that after the checkered flag, it was immediately a red flag again.
Just perfectly sums up the madness that was Australia.
And honestly, I think we all need a month break to recover.
from this race.
I mean, the process for that, right,
is to redo that lap.
So they need to reset the grid
and we'll have to go again, I imagine.
Based on how long that race is,
I think Azerbaijan might be tomorrow.
I don't think we've got a month anymore.
I hope it is.
A month's a long time to wait
for another Grand Prix, in it?
To be fair, it's a month,
but it's the next, after the day,
it's Baku, and it's a sprint race.
Like, oh, God.
I need time to prepare for the carnage.
And it's of course good news because despite the fact that won't be an EF1 for a couple of weeks,
your favourite Formula One podcast will be here twice a week, every week, every Wednesday and every Sunday.
Oh, you sound like an actual accent.
I know.
All good always up next.
Hi, late breaking.
Wow, what a long race.
And I really feel for everyone who is not in.
a good time zone to watch this race because it has been a long one.
And what a mess and what drama.
It's so hard to pick my favorite moment.
But I think it has to be at the end, the last red flag where Carlos signs just refused to get out of the car because he was afraid of Fernando Alonso.
And then that message over the radio just begging them to not have that time penalty was just, oh my gosh.
I don't know.
No words.
Anyway, love the podcast.
Love you guys.
Bye.
We love you, all good always.
The world's nicest name.
And I mean, if we've got time for one more submission,
it isn't appearing on my version of the soundboard,
but if you want to play something for Beef, Sam, go ahead.
Oh, God.
Usually I'm the warning for headphone users.
It might not work.
I might get sent for a bag of chips,
but Beef is submitting something.
Amazingly, she goes at talking her own submission.
So this is from Beef.
Sorry, everyone.
Oh, here we go.
It's coming.
Okay, that's enough of that.
Yeah, that was more than enough about, I think.
Hello, everyone.
I'm sorry to interrupt the podcast with more of Harry,
but there's been a slight mix up on what was beef submission.
So what you just heard was not beef submission.
I'll add it in afterwards what Beef actually said.
So some reason Sam thought that was Beef Submission
and just uploaded it into the soundboard.
Oh my God.
This is taking me so long to record this.
So, um,
it's one of the best things that's happened ever.
Anyway,
here is actual beef submission.
I'm very sorry,
but Sam is a moron.
Hello.
My favorite moment of the race.
Oh, by the way, I'm less stressed now.
Much less stressed.
Feeling good.
Boyfriend Beef got his dream job, by the way, everyone.
Love that.
My favorite moment on the race.
everything happened.
Everything happened.
But Logan Sartre just forgot to break.
You just gave up,
but I just thought that was iconic from him.
Anyway, love you all.
Okay, bye.
Thanks, Beef.
Thank you.
Thanks, Beef.
And thank you to everyone
for putting in their submissions
as we really appreciate it.
And we'll be back.
Next submissions will be the preview
for Azerbaijan.
I'm exhausted.
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