The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Australian GP Review

Episode Date: April 2, 2023

Ben, Sam and Harry review an absolutely chaotic Australian GP in Melbourne, where Max Verstappen took his second victory of the year. The boys break down the THREE red flags, give their verdict on bes...t and worst drivers of the day, and discuss their moments of the race... VOTE for us in the Sports Podcast Awards: https://www.sportspodcastgroup.com/sports_category/best-motorsports-podcast/ SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704 TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. And a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Eid, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. Australian Grand Prix review time. We didn't think we'd ever get here to the review of this race because we didn't think it would ever end. But eventually, Max Verstappen took victory at the Australian Grand Prix, joined on the podium by Lewis Hamilton,
Starting point is 00:00:52 and Fernando Alonzo yet again finding the longest route to third place after also being out of the points with a lap to go somehow. There's a lot to break down here. Couldn't really put together a schedule because it's all just carnage. Sam, I mean, have you had your poo now? Oh, good. That's a great way to kick off the show. folks, I went out yesterday for a friend's birthday
Starting point is 00:01:20 and I'm sure you've all had it. You know, you have a few beers, you get a bit tipsy, then you come home and you have a bit of a cheeky takeaway, right? A little bit of a greasy takeaway. Anyway, obviously woke up at, you know, crack a dawn to watch the Australian Grand Prix. And about by lap 30, I was like, oh, I do need the toilet, but here's some exciting, folks.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Here you go, this is on Ben, I'm it. It takes me a little while to go to the little. I like to take my time, right, play a little game, watch a little video, you know, relax into it. So I can't just get up and go and only lose a lap. So when 83 Reg flags happen, now the year is 2037, I had to really crack onto that bathroom when we finally got to the podium. Anyway, so I'm good.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Thank you, Ben, for asking. I'm not following that up. Fair. I take full responsibility for that. I apologize profusely. Formula One, that's what we're talking about. Multiple red flags, incidents galore, but eventually Max Verstappen taking the victory.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It seemed like we were heading for a relatively normal end until Kevin Magnuson decided he wanted to get close to the wall with a few laps to go, brought out a red flag. A restart happened. It wasn't very clean. And then here we are. The pinnacle of motorsport. With that in mind,
Starting point is 00:02:59 what did you think about the whole last few laps? Firstly, the throwing of the red flag was that the correct decision? And then secondly, how they decided the order at the end of the Grand Prix? The qualification for what constitutes a red flag at the moment feels very unsure. Now, I know the three of us are all on the same page
Starting point is 00:03:20 for what I'm about to say, that safety is paramount. You make sure that people are in a safe position first before anything, entertainment or race order, whatever it might be, safety comes first. But it does feel like the moment anything touches the racetrack that isn't literally working and attached to a race car now,
Starting point is 00:03:38 it is immediately stop the entire Formula One calendar, ban Formula One from every state, and we will not race ever again until it's cleared up. And, you know, I fully agree. Obviously, I'm not there at the track. I haven't got cameras at every corner. I can't coordinate with every marshal.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And if they've turned around and said, we simply cannot right now safely remove the debris and the car. It cannot be done. We need time. Okay, fine. And if someone can find that information or whatever, sure. But until I think that information is brought forward, and I will happily see if it is,
Starting point is 00:04:11 it feels like a safety car would have given the time to pick up the tire and push the debris off the track. We've had that done at many a track with some good old wooden brooms pushing some carbon fiber off the track. And KMAG, even on three tires, he's a really good job of actually getting the car off to a slip road and off of the racing line properly.
Starting point is 00:04:31 He was behind a little barrier at one point. He managed to come off a corner properly. He wasn't parked on the track. So my point is, as much as it's a long form to get there, I'm a little bit skeptical on if we needed that final red flag. When I say final red flag, I mean, the one that was actually part of the racing, not just the carnage that then ensued afterwards. Yeah, I mean, it's the most red flags ever in one Grand Prix, folks, that is, ever seen, which is, I mean, you just witness history. And another form of history would have been made if Carlos Sites hadn't taken out, Fernando Alonso, because Yuki Sengoda would have got three 11 places in a row, which if you didn't know, that would have been a new record for the most finishers in a row in the same place outside of first.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I don't know who said that before me, but just because start of her in the air. Great. It was a mess. It was like it, folks. It was an absolute mess. Chaos. Loved watching it. Went on for too long.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Needed the loo. But absolutely love the drama. We've established that already. Good. Unfortunately. Did you enjoy the drama, Harry? I mean, I loved the drama, Mick. It's all about the drama Mick.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Gavner Stacey reference or anyone didn't get that. Yeah, it was, drama was good, but it was... F1 again didn't necessarily cover itself in glory with today. The first red flag I get. I know they said it was for gravel, but actually I saw a couple of screenshots afterwards, and like the tech pro is not on the wall anymore. So fine, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Clear the track up. And it's quite a fast part of the track there, so it's easier to just stop them. guys coming around. The second one, I feel like maybe they panicked slightly. Michael Massey was there this weekend and not saying it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 No. They just panicked and were like, oh God, we can't do a safety car before the end of the race. So they're just like, Red Flag. What does Red Flag? And then after that, that's all they did. We had Red Flag
Starting point is 00:06:35 restart, a sector, Red Flag, finished the race. and then another red. They red flagged after the race had finished. How does that work? How can you red flag a race that's already done? They got red flag.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I don't know. Just really twitchy finger on the old red flag. So first one, I think, is fine. Second one. I think Ben, you said this at the time. Why was it even a full safety car initially for Magnuson's crash? Because he did pull off. I guess the debris, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:11 But get that not. I think so hard. literally in the middle of the track. I know, I get that, but you can pick that up quite easily under a VSC, I think. Anyway, I don't think it. Fine, I'll argue the VSE safety car, but I don't think a red flag would necessarily just felt like they panicked a bit because they saw the end of the race was coming. And there's, I guess, Monsa, 2022 as well.
Starting point is 00:07:32 They got a bit burnt there than they finished it under a safety car, which probably would have been, would have happened here. You were there for that. That was popular. It went down really well. People loved it. Stop Charlotte Claire winning. Well, Charlotte Claire didn't need much stopping of winning today.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He did that all by himself one lap in. But yeah, actually, no, before I say anything else, there is something else I need to address, just in case anyone hasn't got the memo because of Sam's moronic April Fool's post yesterday. I'm not leaving, okay? I'm still here and I'm staying here, okay? So many of you for bags of chips all over the world.
Starting point is 00:08:12 people getting chips after right and centre. Anyway, just that's it. Just for what I'd address that in case anyone was wondering. Yeah, the actual race, what an in,
Starting point is 00:08:22 what a mess. What an embarrassment to Formula One that was. I mean, yeah, I agree with you on the first red flag. That was okay. The second one,
Starting point is 00:08:34 I initially thought as well, VSE would have been fine, although that was just based on Magnuson pulling off. I didn't see, at that point, the debris and the tire, at which point I thought, yeah, okay, full course is okay for that. But I didn't understand the need for a red flag. And it did just seem as if either A, they panicked, like you mentioned, Harry, or they realized that they could get a two or three lap shoot
Starting point is 00:08:59 out at the end of the Grand Prix. That will be entertaining. Let's see if we can do that. We want to finish under green flag conditions, which I don't particularly love because red flags and yellow flags, safety cars, VCs, they should all exist for one reason and one reason only, and that's safety. So they shouldn't exist for the sake of entertainment. And I feel like they did here at the end of this Grand Prix, which was a shame to see. Having said that, the driver should still, you know, be functional people in terms of a restart. That was one of the worst restarts I've seen in a very long time. There was multiple amateurish moves, really amateurish moves from, and it wasn't just one or two, you could probably pick out like four or five amateurish things that happened
Starting point is 00:09:50 in that, in that restart. And we're only covering the span of about 30 seconds here. It's not like there were five mistakes made over the course of 15 laps. It was five mistakes in about 10 seconds. and we'll get into the actual incidents, probably one by one, in our second segment. But in terms of the way they actually ordered in the end, I think it was probably right after the red flag was called. It's a bit of a tough one in that you want to negate anything that happened on that lap that didn't happen. But at the same time, you've got multiple things that can't really be avoided.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So Carlos signs getting the penalty, the two Alpines being retired and not able to go back on the track. You can't completely invalidate that lap, but they did somewhat, which is a bit messy, but also I'm not quite sure what other solution would have been out there for that exact situation. I thought they did that right. I joked before we came online to say that maybe they should have got tow trucks out and just made sure the Alpines could get round to the check and flag to properly invalidate that lap. Unfortunately, for Alpine, they couldn't do that solution. But yeah, I just thought the whole closing scenario, it was dramatic, sure, but not dramatic in the right way.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I thought it was really an embarrassment. Again, for anyone new to Formula One, just watching this for the first time or the third time, if they picked it up at the beginning of this Grand Prix, it's just a mess. No one knowing what's happening, the drivers, the teams, the rules guys, the FIA, they're all as clueless as one another when this situation arises. There shouldn't be the avoidance of any doubt in that situation. And yet there was. And we were, you know, sat around for about an hour to watch not even one sector of racing,
Starting point is 00:11:48 which isn't a good look for anyone, really. I'm always keen for good drama but this wasn't, I don't think this was good drama. And the race itself that preceded it, I didn't think was very good. I thought it was okay, maybe, but I don't think it got any better than okay.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I think red flags ruined it. I tweeted, it was quite worrying for Formula One that so many officials didn't know how to resolve this red flag problem. They didn't know what the restart would look like. And there is such an overcomplication of rules at the moment that teams are struggling and, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:28 these incredibly intelligent people, the three of us, which are not, are struggling to put together how your own sport is meant to carry on from something that could happen in theory at every single racetrack, right? There could be a restart and then a crash on the first lap. It's not uncommon to think that that might happen. And we had people in our Discord, which was absolutely popping, by the way, folks. you know, look to the description, join it because it was immense.
Starting point is 00:12:56 A lot of people asking us and, you know, maybe people who've been watching the sport for longer, what's going on, what's the procedure here? Is there any precedent for this? Don't understand what's happening. And if there are, you know, well over a thousand people in that chat at any point going, I don't understand what's going on, there must be people who have sat down to watch drive to survive
Starting point is 00:13:16 for the first time this year, gone, I'll give F1 a go, third grade of the season, I don't understand what's happening. Why is a long so suddenly back in P3? Why don't the Alpins get to have a go then if that's the same rule set? And it's not explained well at all. There was at one point someone mentioned, I think, on commentary, which is a slip of the tongue that can definitely misinform,
Starting point is 00:13:36 that they weren't allowed to change their tyres under the reg flag, when the rule is very much, well, every car can change their tires under the reg flag. I think it was quickly cleared up that they can. And it's just, it's a bit messy. It's like, it's a bit massing. Which we'll get onto because, you know, that's like your ex-girlfriend walking in on your honeymoon with your new wife, isn't it? Like, what's he doing? Anyway, they need to work out a red flower procedure.
Starting point is 00:14:00 They need to go through the regulations and just simplify. Like I said a little while ago, Formula One rules for dummies. Make it a new book. Go through it again. Clear as day and night, please. I want to know what the rule means because it was an absolute mess. And they threw out the red flags a bit too skittishly, a bit too like. Like there was almost like a cat and you put like a little full.
Starting point is 00:14:20 fly on the red flag button and it kept landing on it and the cat kept trying to bat the fly, but then it just set the red flag thing off again. A bit of a mess. All very silly. I think the irony is, and you bring up Michael Massey, I think they had the solution. I just think they had the wrong execution a couple of years ago when Massey was in the role. So I think that that way of working was correct that there is one person overseeing everything who is accountable, who is directly accountable, and there's no confusion over multiple officials, because it's just one person who's at the top of that train.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I think the problem is they didn't have the right person in order to execute that. I don't think Massey was ever strong enough to be able to do it. But I think the actual solution was correct. And it was much more transparent then as well, in terms of communications from Michael Massey. We see it in Formula E. There's a lot more transparency when it comes to race director comms
Starting point is 00:15:19 to the teams. We had that for one season. They took it away, ultimately, which I didn't agree with. I thought that that should actually stay. But yeah, you're right. Bit of a mess. I mean, it makes you,
Starting point is 00:15:35 I mean, we all do anyway, but the amount of respect that you give to someone like Charlie Whiting now, who used to run what feels like the entire sport, God rest his soul, you know, not with us anymore, sadly, because I would love him to be here because, oh, would he clean up this mess
Starting point is 00:15:48 a heartbeat, I feel like. Yeah, he most likely would. In terms of the race before all of that happened, obviously Max Verstappen took the race win. I want to at least get Max Verstappen involved here in this review because there wasn't actually too much to say about him because he just won by, well, in the end, not a massive margin, but technically speaking, Harry, what did you make of the way that he had two poor, two poor starts, obviously, but outside of that, same old, same old.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah, same old, same old for matches. I mean, he had that little tiny off in the penultimate corner, didn't he? But that was, you know, make it slightly exciting. It dropped four seconds to Hamilton and that was it, but then pulled it back out again. So, yeah, I think they said this in the commentary.
Starting point is 00:16:47 He's just remarkably, and I feel like we've said, before, but he's remarkably calm now when things... I mean, there's still the odd outbursts. We saw a bit in Jeddah. But when things don't go according to plan, like the start, so, you know, he loses out to Russell and Hamilton. And again, at the restart, the first restart,
Starting point is 00:17:11 he didn't get past Hamilton straight away. But it's just sort of... It just bides his time, doesn't he? He doesn't send one down the inside for no reason. Looking at you, Carlos Sons. Yes. Oh, no, no. Carlos Bowling Bowl and you, Logan, Corporal.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It'll be demoted to private at this rate. Oh. Got him. Yeah, but if it's happened, it was just very measured once again. Yeah, the starts were the only thing that looked slightly dodgy, to be honest, and the only thing to let him down. And I'm sure he was that final restart we had. That's probably the most nervy bit for his race,
Starting point is 00:17:56 because the only thing that wasn't that great were the starts, and he could have well have lost it to Hounton there. So other than that, it was a very good measured for Stappen being good at the F1 win, wasn't it? Sam, I think Harry sums it up pretty well there, but he was pretty good at the F1 out there. He's almost bulletproof, isn't he? He really is ascending himself to the very top. And I feel like now, you know, obviously everyone loves to run through their greatest drivers of all time.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think if you were to put the staffing in your top 10 list at this point, I will happily listen to your debate. I quite happily listen to all your reasoning because everything he does, even when there are mistakes involved, it's not that he won't make mistakes. It's often, you know, how do you look classically, how do you learn from your mistakes and how do you recover from them? And, you know, Bostappan four or five years ago would. If he had gone off the track like that at the last corner,
Starting point is 00:18:48 he might respond the car trying to get back on the circuit. He might have burned up his tires. He might have an absolute going, a wobble, and then lost your on his pace. And even the bag starts, which show that the Red Bull has got signs of weakness. It's not invincible. We saw that with, you know, Sergio's car as well this weekend. He's had problems with, you know, brakes and whatnot. So there are issues there.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But he's just being able to pull out the extra percent that you need to get the result done. I mean, the start was bad. It was a bad start from your race league from a two-time world champion. It wasn't good to drop down a third place. And kudos to both Russell and Hamilton for getting their elbows out. And they made it exciting at the start. And I was very happy to see that we had a fight on our hands. But the moment that DRS became active, he took his time.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Bye-bye. But yeah. Bye-bye. Literally, he's come and gone. You know, he's like the milkman in the night. You wake up in the morning and suddenly there's milk on your doorstep. But you can never see him around. because he always delivers.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And the staff, he absolutely delivered. It was, you know, he was invincible, really. When you've got a car that is that good and a driver that is that good, you don't need to panic when it's not going your way at a moment.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And he's sensational. He deserves all the plaudits he gets. We'll take a short break, our first one of the review. We'll be trying to dissect the incidents that happened. We're going to turn into Commentary Corner right after this.
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Starting point is 00:21:03 Okay, so there were a lot of incidents that took place out on the track. today. Only one penalty at the moment, I think, has been applied, which was the five second penalty for Carlos Sines, although they might as well have just disqualified him, to be honest. It would have had the same impact. But I think that was the only one, unless I'm missing anything. There were plenty of things that happened out there. I'm going to run through five penalties, I think should have been applied. And I want you to tell me whether you agree with all of them, or you'd go a different way with any of them. Firstly, the one that did actually happen.
Starting point is 00:21:43 The car lost signs penalty, five seconds. Mitigating circumstances, David Croft. Mitigating circumstances such as what? Driving into another car? I don't think that counts. That is a slam dunk. Alonso was 90% of the way through the corner when he was tagged by Carlos Sines.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Carlos Sines started the move back at the last corner, I think. That was a slam dunk penalty, five seconds. Obviously, the way that these time penalties work, occasionally they're going to be much more impactful than at other times. Here, it was a complete and utter disaster to get a five second time penalty. As we saw in Jeddah, for example, when Alonzo got a five second penalty, did not matter whatsoever. I'm afraid that's just how it goes with these things.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So I agree with the FIA on that one. but I think they missed a lot. And maybe they're getting to some of them after the race. I don't know. Who did we have? The one that Harry's already mentioned, Logan Corporal. Again, just a top tip from me when it comes to racing. Get it in the book.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Don't drive into the back of another car. That isn't allowed. So I think that's probably worthy of a penalty. I've had to look through the racing conduct book. Can't see that anywhere in there. So I'm going to give that one a five-second penalty. Nick DeVries,
Starting point is 00:23:12 you're not allowed to drive into another car either. Esteban Ockon, apparently... Okay, Esteban Ockon today, Leplan, it just doesn't exist. Everyone pretended he was not there.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Maybe it's the pink of that car in the sun. I don't know. But twice today, because I'm going to get onto the other one in a moment, just decided to drive into him, poor guy. He's trying to execute the planet. So Nick DeFries, I think, should have got a penalty for that.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Same sort of thing, Pierre Gasley. I would start having a lookout, Pene, as to who's going to drive for you in Baku, because I don't think it ain't going to be Pierre Gasly with those penalty points racking up. Jack Dewan might be the happiest man in all of Australia at the moment, because he might well be the one who jumps up to that race seat in Baku. I mean, there were comments of maybe he didn't see him. And he was coming back onto the track at like five miles an hour. You should probably assume that there's going to be a car on the outside going much quicker than you.
Starting point is 00:24:19 That's a slam dunk penalty. And the last one, and some will probably argue that he was already penalised because of the way that his race ended, but I don't think it matters. Charles LeClaire drove into Landstrol at the start. I'd probably penalise that as well. Again, we don't want to let the consequences dictate the action. So I think all five of those are penalties. Sam, of those five, and any more maybe that I missed, what do you reckon? Okay, yeah, let's crack on.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Right, so Carlos Sites, people are saying, yeah, misgating circumstances. If you want to see how Ben reacted in the moment to that comment coming out from the commentary team, go and check our Twitter. I've taken a screenshot of it. Ben was not best, please. Me and Harry had quite a giggle. Anyway, I fully agree that.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I don't care what part of the race were wrong. I don't care if it's a restart, the first start, the last call, and the first call, and the last lap, the last lap. Yeah, drove straight into someone else when you weren't even close to them. It's a penalty, sunshine. Back of the Grig for you.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Ban. What was the next one? Logan Private. Demoted. Again, yeah, you don't really just drive straight into people. Not how Formula One works. So, ban. penalty.
Starting point is 00:25:32 What was the next one? Nick to freeze. Yeah, you know, you hang a bit of a bumper ride of a race. Oh, Nick, didn't you? There was a lot of things that went around for you.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Do you remember that moment where we were behind one of the safety cars for the restart? And then he just drove across the gravel. He just overtook everyone under the safety car. Wasn't that Magnuson? Oh, I don't care it was.
Starting point is 00:25:55 There were so many of them doing it. They're all bad. No, not bad, but you know what I mean? Stupid. Yep. What was the next one? Charlerclair, right? Oh, no, the Ghazi one.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Gasly. And I think we should get on to this one a little bit more because I think we had a debate towards the end of the year right before Abu Dhabi whether Pierre Ghazly should almost do something like cut the track enough times to pick up a penalty point
Starting point is 00:26:19 that meant that he was banned from Abu Dhabi and then his new race, new season would start completely clean. It feels like a smart move now, doesn't it, Pierre? You silly boy. Because you were having, before the last, lap, essentially. Drive of the day for me. You were guessing driver of the day. I was going to come here and I was going to go, whoop-de-do, Pierre Gaz is absolutely fresh and knock on. Isn't he having a great time? My driver predictions look fantastic. Hey! And then he's ruined the, not just the car,
Starting point is 00:26:46 not as his teammates car, but that lovely relationship that he was building with Esteban. That's going to go, because we know what Esteban's like. He's going to never let that go now. So, yeah, that's a penalty. It'll be a race band. Chat doing, you're having a lovely time, sunshine. Bam, penalty. And the last one, Charlotte. clear, we do not on this podcast let the aftermath of an incident decide a penalty. Your penalties decide on your actions that lead up to whether you retire or there's damage or whatever it might be. You drove into someone, Sunshine.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Lance Struggle's still there. Also, why were you turning so early? The corner wasn't there yet. You haven't reached it. You just went, don't like Canadians, apparently. So I'm going to drive straight into the side of you. Paraphrase. Paraphrase.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Don't clip that, folks. Anyway, it was silly. Charlotte, Clair deserves to be sat in a hotel room somewhere being annoyed because what a stupid move. Ferrari having an absolute nightmare this season. What, no points are getting for LeClau. I think he's on eight after three races this season. His worst tally in, what, four, five years? Yeah, penalty.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Six years, wow. I would, thank you. Six points, sorry. Oh, okay, again, works either way. I would actually give him a penalty for next race for that because it can't be applied, during the Australian Grand Prix, but it would be a five-second time penalty to be applied. So, yeah, I think you're bang on with all of them.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They all deserve some kind of penalty actions be taken. Harry, of the three of us, you're probably the most lenient when it comes to penalties. So interested to know if some of those wouldn't apply in your world or whether there is anything else that we've missed. Even in my world, even in my world, all of those penalties. disgusting, a lot of years.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, we said this before we started recording. How signs this penalty was applied so quickly and nothing has been mentioned about Logan Private who just rammed DeFries off the track. Don't even make, at least, to defend signs, at least he was kind of making the corner. Sergeant wasn't making that corner if he'd started breaking it from Jedder,
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't think. Sergeant would have gone on to hit Ralph Schumacher who crashed there 21 years ago Got back in time He breaks so late Oh no I can't plug my headphones Oh no he can't hear us
Starting point is 00:29:12 I can't up Yeah so I agree with all of them The Gassley one Just look in your mirror son You've gone off the track Trying to defend From what was he on in P4 or trying to attack people
Starting point is 00:29:30 you've gone off track it's your own fault at least look who's behind you when you've rejoined especially if it's your teammate so yeah that's a that's a pen for me
Starting point is 00:29:41 Lecler I agree as well it was just clumsy Charlotte Glenn maybe it's only in races where it begins with Oz that he doesn't know how wide his car is forgets the side of his own vehicle
Starting point is 00:29:55 Australia and Austria just not aware about how big is Ferrari is. Yeah, so I agree with that one. What was the other one? Oh, yeah, DeFries as well. That was before everything else happened, that was almost going to be my moment of the race,
Starting point is 00:30:10 just because he just like opened, the steering was that way. Then was there. Just going to hit, Ockon. He's not there. He's invisible. So, yeah, I think that deserves a penalty as well.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And I can't remember what the other one was, but I agree. Leclair, right? Oh, no, we done Leclair. I don't know. They all sucks. You'll rub it to a lot of this. Get us in there next time, but that is terrible. I was trying to think many more, but I don't think there is.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I mean, Sam's already brought it up. I don't know, and I haven't really reviewed it yet, the Magnuson's trip across the gravel and everything that happened in that incident. There might have been something there. I think Snowden was the one who was literally stationary, and that's why Magnuson was flying across the gravel, but I need to watch that again.
Starting point is 00:31:01 But they just said it's not worth investigating, right? Nothing doing there. Everyone's fine. Nah. Got enough on our plates. Got me bothered. Got a red flag to throw. Have a other one.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And the other one. Driver of the day, somehow got to pick someone. Who you going for, Sam? I think, yeah, just because of the lack of action. No, actually, you know what? you made a mistake on the last corner. And for me, that's got good enough.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I go, Lewis Hamilton. Did a great job. Short sweep. Fair enough. Driver of the day from you, Harry. Well, I was with Sam. It was going to be Pierre Gazley until he was an idiot. So, um, it's Lando Norris.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's a great shout. Fair. Excellent drive. And very good considering, and we've already mentioned, the McLaren is slow as bull. Oh, my God. If balls could be any slower, McLara would have them.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So slow. But yeah, a great drive. And actually, to be fair, I want to give his teammate a shout out. He didn't have a great day on Saturday, but, you know, scoring your first points for your home race, that's pretty cool. But anyway, Norris showed why Norris is good, didn't need today.
Starting point is 00:32:18 The move on Holkenberg that he'd been teeing up for, I don't know, the entire race it felt like, but it was a dirty little, switchback move and I love a switchback. So, yeah, Lano. It was filth, pure filth. Also, it's just so funny that there are
Starting point is 00:32:36 four corners that occur after DRS zones and Lando Norris could not use any of them to get by Nika Holkenberg. So he had to get creative because that McLaren is so slow. Oh, my driver of the day, so, yeah, Pierre
Starting point is 00:32:52 Ghazley, yeah, Gassley had a good race up until the point that, you didn't. So I can't give it to him. But to be fair, he was in a good position thanks to Esteban Ockon deciding to go with what would have probably worked out to be a good strategy early on, going on to the hard tires, the first time of asking. Pierre Gasly stayed out on the softs and then benefited from the red flag. So I might not have given it to him because of that anyway. Similarly for Lewis Hamilton, Russell might well have beaten him if it didn't go that way. So I don't want to give it to him either.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Stappen had two poor starts plus an error in the penultimate corner, so for once I won't give it to Vastappen either. I think Hulk or Norris I'll go with Holkenberg because I feel so bad for him that P3 was actually
Starting point is 00:33:42 within his grasp. The penalty was applied, so it was all based on the ordering at the end. If it was done based on the order after the first sector of that restart, Holcomberg would have got his first podium ever. And instead, he picks up some good points.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm sure he'd be happy with that, but I mean, that's, that's gotta hurt. Can I, am I being too harsh to not give it to Hulkie B because of his silly gravel moment after the Norris fight?
Starting point is 00:34:10 I mean, he probably shouldn't have, he was trying to hold on, wasn't he? But I, maybe, maybe give that one up earlier, Nico, but I, to be dramatic. Or something to be traumatic. He did have a good race. He did, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:24 I mean, it's defending towards the Amazon a little bit. Dodge. It definitely double-kinked there, didn't they? To be fair, on any other race, I'd probably go, yeah, you've got a good point, but that probably wouldn't make the top 20 of dubious driving out there today,
Starting point is 00:34:41 so maybe not in this Grand Prix. Also, not one to get into now, maybe one to get into in a future episode. Qualifying-wise, Hulk be quick. Hulk be a far away. What's that? Like I said, maybe we'll get onto that discussion at some other point. Worst driver of the day.
Starting point is 00:35:06 You can only pick one, Sam. I appreciate this might be tricky. Okay, right, let's go through it, guys. So, LeCler wasn't in it long enough for it to be worse rather than the day, but he was not very good for the whole weekend anyway. DeVries, he didn't even beat his teammate who had severe issues towards the end of the grid. It was complaining that it's carding at work.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So, I mean, I'm going to have to get it to Valtry Bottas, actually, because where'd be Bottas for the entire weekend? Where he'd be? Yeah, where they'd be? How is Joe ending up with points here? Joe Guan Yu, he ninth after all that carnage. I mean, fair play to him, but Bottas, who qualified awfully, the car is not good.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And then for the whole race, he just trundled around at the back. And, I mean, I respect the fact that he didn't do bowling ball ball ball, Botas at any of the restarts. But what, is he too focused on lovely coffee and having a mullet? And I love him for it. My, I'd rather ee be scoring points, you know? And it wasn't very good.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So, Bottas. You actually missed something there. Bottas pitted for softs right at the end to take a fastest lap point away from Alpine. I forgot that he was playing the game. Good job. Big time strap. Oh, jeez. My worst driver of the day.
Starting point is 00:36:29 There are so many contenders. So many contenders. You had Charles LeClau, who's race ended because of his own error. You had Alex Albin who's race ended because of his own error. Oh, Alex. Ditto Kevin Magnuson. So you've got three drivers there who ruin their own race. Pierre Gazley tried to kill his teammate.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Nick DeVries was pretty bad. Logan Corporal was pretty bad. You've already mentioned Valtrey Bottas. that's nearly half the grid already. I'm going to go for, I'm going to go for Logan Corporal here because he was, he was just slow all day.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And I know Alex Albin, Alex Albin retiring makes him look a little bit better than what perhaps happened. Because if Albin holds on to finish, you know, P6, P7, that was definitely on the cards, then Logan Sargent's performance probably is highlighted a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And then that incident right on the, right at the end, just capped it off. So I'll go with him. Sargent's fall from positivity over the last three races has been pretty abrupt, right? I imagine he's got a few bruises from hitting the ground that hard. There's something there with him. There is something there, but it is
Starting point is 00:37:40 untapped at the moment. It's raw. Like, it's not refined in any way. Harry, worst driver of the day? All of them. Good. I don't know. Just for the restart, it was awful. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, I will go for, who was also bad, I haven't been picked. Magnuson, what he'd doing? You were just slow. You're also slow. Holkenberg's done you. So I go K-Magg, but all of the above choices that you said, I'd also go for two. What about a big brain moment of the race, Sam? Oh, I forgot this was even part of a show.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I've been thought about it with so many. I'm going to go with... It's not his fault. I'm going to go with George Russell, pitting under the safety car, and thinking that he, because he does this all the time, he tries to get a bit too eager with strategy sometimes,
Starting point is 00:38:38 and it never seems to actually work out. He dives straight into the pit lane. Look at me, I'm on the odd tire, red flag. And it's just like, oh, Judge. It's not his fault, but I do think that the mate, away immediately backfired, and they cut to George Russell,
Starting point is 00:38:52 looking like he was about to cry in the back of the pit lane was somewhat comedic. So, yeah, I'm going to go with George Rosson's strategy call. Harry, big brain moment of the race? My one is Lance Strode being P3 for approximately six seconds and then just not breaking for turn three. That's my big brain moment of the day. I mean, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He ended up P4. Well, that was the big brain moment part of it. He knew it wouldn't matter. Yeah. He'd already worked out that it wasn't going to count. I mean, on that point, Fernando Alonzo being one of the most switched on humans in history, he's still having his accent. He's like, well, that won't count because there was a red flag.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Finns knows the future. Man's going to start reciting the FIA rule book at some point, isn't he? He's going to be like, well, actually, under Section 3.42, that can't be allowed. I'm surprised his onboard camera doesn't show him with his hand out of the cockpit while he's spinning going like, give me, give me the P3, put it back in my hand. Oh, worry. That man, do you remember the show? I don't know if you've watched it, that you and McGregor and Charlie Borman did
Starting point is 00:40:09 when they record The Long Way Round and they rode motorbikes all the way around the world, right? That should be the title of Alonso's F1 book, the long way round to get a podium because the man seems to come off it every week and he's still back on it at the end. how many ways to get three away three. Yeah. Big brain moment of the race for me was actually Kevin Magnuson going with the rarely spotted three-wheel strat.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Didn't quite work out, but I appreciate the boldness of giving it a go. You probably saw Lewis Hamlet to do it at Silverstone and thought, you know what, when I'm backing F1, I'll have a go at that. Yeah. Also, just a bit of an odd just drove into the wall. Was he blind? Did the sun going his eyes?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Wasn't like a little snap of oversteering? Just drive him to the wall. Don't need that wheel anymore. Off we go. Overrated. If he was playing overrated, underrated with us, and we said, your wheel, he'd go overrated. Having four wheels.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Overrated, mate. Definitely, overweight. Weight saving. Okay, we're going to take a short break. We'll be discussing Sergio Perez's fight back through the field right after this. So Sergio Perez didn't have the best Saturday going. A bit of a role reversal from last time out in Jeddah, where it was his teammate that didn't have a good time of it on the Saturday.
Starting point is 00:41:48 This time it was Sergio Perez. Pit lane start for him, thanks to his car not quite working, basically. Just didn't want to turn, did it in qualifying? Starting last, or starting from the pit lane, eventually came back through the field. Sam, what did you make of some of the moves that he pulled off? do you think he pretty much maximised what he could have achieved from that starting position? So, oh, I was having a bit of a moan about this in the discord.
Starting point is 00:42:15 A moan's probably too harsh, but I was definitely asking some questions of old Sergio. And I felt like with that car's performance, especially the way it works under the IRS, out of all the cars, you remember when Mercedes used to be so dominant at the front of the field, but we'd always say the moment they fell back into the pack, whether it be from a pit stop or from, you know, engine trouble, that they couldn't ever overtake again because the dirty air affected them so badly. The Red Bull is almost the opposite of that. While it's fantastic out the front,
Starting point is 00:42:44 the moment you give it DRS capabilities, a track that has four DRS zones, it should be like, run like the wing balls, right? Nothing can stop Sergio Perez. And to be fair to him, he put on some absolute bangers of an overtake, right, going around the outside,
Starting point is 00:43:01 going up the inside, a bit of late breaking, a bit of the old switchy-roo. You know, he did everything, and that he could get done to get the moves done. I'll respect him for it. But he was hindered a little bit by safety cars. He was hindering a little bit by reg flags
Starting point is 00:43:14 because strategy meant that everyone came to the same tyre and whatnot. But I do feel like before the final red flag incident that we had with Magnuson, I thought he would be further up the grid at that point. I did just think that the car's ability, the raw ability of that car has, would have seen him fighting with the likes of Alonso, Sainz, Gassley, already. it was barely up to Norris and Norris put up an absolute scrap when they did come together
Starting point is 00:43:38 and I just thought it'd be further along than this so while he did well to get the car clean he managed the car especially after he was struggling with it for the whole weekend he's only got himself to blame
Starting point is 00:43:49 for it to be really back there I suppose because he was struggling so badly for in qualifying but he recovered to get some points actually with the way that the safety car proceedings ending things I think he finished what P5 so he picks up okay points it's still relatively decent
Starting point is 00:44:02 I just expect to go a little bit more. You know, with the track, how it's laid out, what the Red Bull is capable of, and all that DRS available to him, I just expect to go a little bit more. But it's coming to be sniffed at. I'm not going to go away from here thinking, Perez, you're washed.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It was fine. Harry, did you expect any more from Perez's fight? Yeah, it's, I don't know what happened on, I mean, to be fair, I overslept and actually missed him going out and qualifying, so that was a good start for me. I don't know whether it was actually mechanical or not for Paris, but from what I saw after, I awoke,
Starting point is 00:44:42 he was having a bit of a shocker on Saturday with issues with the car and stuff, so maybe that is. But it was a good recovery drive, but you can't be doing, we've said this before, you can't be doing that if you're trying to fight Max for Stauffin for a championship, because it's the sort of errors. the sort of areas that Vostappen wouldn't make even if he's having car issues
Starting point is 00:45:05 he still brings it home and to be fair to Paris he did bring it home a fifth but arguably it should have been second so it was a good recovery drive today from him but given where that car is he should have been at least P2 so he can't afford to
Starting point is 00:45:22 if he wants to fight for this title we can't afford to have a Saturday like that well at all I don't say very often but at all basically And I'd argue as well, because you make a very fair point there, that without Sykes's penalty, that's sixth, without George Russell probably having his reliability issue, that's seventh. So I don't feel like it was really looking that good for Sergio. I don't think he really hard. I think if you put Max for staffing in that exact position, I think Max can carve through the field and I think he's up to third or fourth at an absolute worst. Yeah, I think first of all, in terms of qualifying on the Saturday, I personally don't put any blame on Perez for that.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I really think that car was messed up. You could see the wheel. It wasn't even a lockup, I don't think. It was just that he was turning the wheel and it was not going. It just seemed to accelerate on braking, which fun fact shouldn't happen. So I don't think I don't think I'll put any blame for the Saturday qualifying incident on Perez. I think he did an all right job. You know, the most important thing in his position was avoid incidents, right, and come home with something.
Starting point is 00:46:29 given how dominant that Red Bull is over the rest of the field, it was within his best interest to safely claim 10 points rather than go gung-ho and massively risk, potentially getting 15 or maybe crashing because of an overzealous attempt at an overtake. I think his overtakes were well-measured. I think they were smart for the most part. I don't remember any lunges that I thought,
Starting point is 00:46:56 I probably wouldn't go for that. I think whenever he was, confident that he can make the move. He did. The one thing I was surprised at was actually when he cleared, I guess it would have been Ocon for P9, when he was catching Lando Norris. And he was about five and a half seconds, I think, behind Lando Norris after he cleared O'Con. And I thought, okay, he'll be on the back of him in a few laps time. I don't think that would take him very long. It actually took him a long time to then get to the back of Lando Norris. That was probably the surprising part for me. Then again,
Starting point is 00:47:29 he probably had to use up his tires more to make those overtakes. So maybe I shouldn't have been so shocked. Overall, would Vastappen in the same spot have made a few more places? Yes, I think he would have done. But overall, I think Perez can be content with what happened. Good, not great. Can we review some bold predictions? Yes, I would love to.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I'm so excited. I've been looking forward to this all morning. Sam, what was your bold prediction? I don't remember. There were two many parts of it, but they were all wrong. Good. Yeah, when you go for 14-parters, generally those bold predictions don't end up. The Astrid got points, but it's irrelevant because Norris got more points than him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can claim that at least. Harry,
Starting point is 00:48:17 first of all, I don't know if this would have even counted based on the poll that Sam did. You remember back to the preview, folks, Harry made the bold prediction that Fernando Alonzo won't be on the podium. Sam said that wasn't bold enough. Put it to a poll. in Discord. And unfortunately for you, Harry, they very much voted in the favour of Sam. Doesn't matter anyway because it finished on the podium. Yeah, I mean, it's like a, it's like, I don't know, I'm going to say a win-win, but Lonters is on the podium, so personally I don't care that much. But all of you peasants in the Discord, I hate you. So, thank you. Good. Good. Relationship management, as usual from
Starting point is 00:49:00 Harry Yead, superb. And I'm happy to say I'm on the board because McLaren I said that after a difficult first couple of weeks that Lando Norris, or indeed any, either of the McLarence, was going to finish in the top eight. It was looking very sketchy for a time because Lando Norris was P9 chasing down Niko Holcomberg and seemingly not able to get past. Folks, I was, I'd be nervous because Nika Holkenberg. was defending like a lion, and we know that McLaren just doesn't have any... I don't actually think it has an engine in it, just based on how quick it is on the straits. So I didn't think he was going to make that move.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Eventually, he did, and then ultimately that kind of didn't matter anyway, because he made up another position regardless. But he was in the top eight, and I will join Sam on one point. One one-0. I think there's a rule that we forgot to mention to everyone that the game only plays to Australia. So Harry's lost one one, what a shame. Hand over the logging.
Starting point is 00:50:15 So, I mean, to be honest, us collectively getting too right after three races is probably better than I thought. I thought we'd be at nil-nil-0 at this point. I'm going to take a leaf out of the Harry E, Book of boldness and just go for the least bold prediction
Starting point is 00:50:30 I can next time. For stepping to finish in the top 10 is my bold prediction next time. I mean, he's going to retire. I feel like I've been done harshly here. It wasn't the most bold, but he's now had three podiums.
Starting point is 00:50:49 That's a pretty, you know, it's quite a regular thing to happen. So to say it's not going to happen. Oh, you don't know the piece. It brought me when they re-extated that third. Hey, if Charles LeCler had a working car and the stewards knew what they were doing, Alonso would have no podiums. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I'm joking, of course. Speaking of, that battle for second in the Constructors' Championship, a very interesting twist in the tale today. It looked like early on Mercedes were in a very good spot. Obviously, only one car finishing, but it was in a good position, so Lewis Hamilton taking 18 points for. the team. Ashton Martin went from looking at zero to getting exactly 27 points as a result of third and fourth. That was a very important call for how they were going to reorder based on
Starting point is 00:51:45 their championship aspirations. And lastly, Ferrari ended up with nothing. So what did you make of the battle for second, Sam, out there? When do Mercedes be good? When did that happen? It's like Toto Wolf went... Oh, we can't... jumping up in round here. It's like Toto Wolf literally when... Shall I do the voice? Yeah, let's hear the voice.
Starting point is 00:52:10 He went, guys, we are not good at the F-1. And now we will change the attack. And the next race, we'll be good. It's not too bad? Then he got to the end, obviously, with Hamilton getting a podium. And he said, we be back. and I am back and now look at that
Starting point is 00:52:35 Mercedes are so good that might be the worst segment I've ever produced on this show but Ferrari Ferrari are absolutely in the mud aren't they? What are they doing? I mean they produced a car that looked okay Carla Sites could have got past
Starting point is 00:52:51 Fernando Alonso or for a long time Pierre Gasly they're struggling for pace generally they don't have the advantage in any form of the RS mode Charles LeCler is seemingly having the worst seating his hag since joining the scoogoria. They are where Mercedes were last season, it feels like. But the issue isn't really the build of the car.
Starting point is 00:53:10 The build of the car seems fine. They're just everything else is going wrong for them. I mean, Astor Martin, I've just got all the good fortune in the world. They've worked so hard last season to turn their car around. Brilliant job. Over the winter break, they put in the hard graph. They signed for Gando-a-Lon-So as well. Lance Stroll is seemingly stepping up,
Starting point is 00:53:28 despite a weird little blip in the gravel today. He's performing a good role as a number two driver. And then even with the race decision being reversed for them, which is okay, it's a bit lucky, but it's correct, I feel. They get all the points in the bag. So I think if they keep chipping away like this, they're almost, again, doing what Mercedes-Managed to do last season. They haven't got the fastest car.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Their line-up is a bit shaky because they don't know where they're going with things. But at the same time, they are delivering, and they're still fighting there. They're kicking and screaming, but they're there. And I'm really interested to see how this pans out. I think Asking's biggest threat is not Ferrari, is actually going to be the resurgence of Mercedes. And if they get their aerodynamics package and the flaw that they want to change, sorted in time to make a meaningful impact on this season, or if it's going to come for next season.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So really interesting to see how this plays out. And the difference might just be in driver capability. For example, Lance Scroll, if he keeps picking up six places, while every other teammate keeps getting second third fourth, second third four, for example, he might let the team down. We don't know, but we saw it with the likes of Daniel Ricardo at McLaren when they were fighting Alpine. It can happen. Harry, what did you make of this ongoing Constructors battle for second and how events unfolded today? Yeah, I mean, well done, Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Not a good one, but as you say, Ben, it was quite a swing in points between lap 57 and 58. Yeah, the Mercedes one, I would be intrigued to see. where this goes next race because even it's like a similar story to last year. They've come away from this weekend and it seems like they're a bit like,
Starting point is 00:55:11 oh, all right. How did that happen? So, I don't know. It was very, it was much more impressive from them today, no doubt. And I think Russell,
Starting point is 00:55:22 really interesting to see on that strategy where Russell would have ended up. I still think this would have won. But it was an interesting one. Maybe Alonzo wouldn't have been on the podium. But, yeah, it's going to be an interesting, I think the Battle of the P1 might be boring, but the Battle for P2 in the championship release
Starting point is 00:55:42 is going to be tasty if Mercedes can keep up that pace. Yeah, like I said, I just, I want to wait and see before I say that it's going to be Merck versus Aston because the Mercedes is quite, I don't know, temperamental. in when it likes to be a good car and when it doesn't like to be a good car. Australia last year they had it,
Starting point is 00:56:05 it wasn't as good as this one, but they had a fairly decent race there as well. So I'll hold with big your breath. But if it is a Merck-Aston-Ferari fight for P2, that could be extremely tasty. Having said that, Ferrari score some points. That would help. It's a good tip, I think,
Starting point is 00:56:24 if you want to at least be P2, at the moment it's not looking good for you. Yeah, it's not looking great. is it? Yeah, to start with Mercedes, even though they did have that one retirement with George Russell today, it seems like they're going to play the same role as they did last year, where car isn't brilliant, but they've got a great lineup and they'll generally be quite consistent and try and avoid making errors and will probably just come through like that. That's certainly what Lewis Hamilton did today. Obviously, George Russell's in a different position, and he's now, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:00 about 20 points behind Lewis Hamilton in the championship as a result of that DNF. But again, he looked like he was in a good spot. And qualifying-wise, Russell's been good this year. So I think they've got the line-up to execute second if the car is there as well. From Aston Martin's perspective, yep, they can be very fortunate that the end ended the way that they wanted to. But Alonzo, you know, continues pace-wise to be on it. Three podiums out of three, speaks volumes there.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Landstrol, I still have my concerns that he might be the deciding factor and not in a positive way, but that remains to be seen. Ferrari, though. Oh, geez. Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari. I don't even know what to say at this point. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You remember on the preview episode, we do a segment called Under Pressure. and I said Ferrari's under pressure this weekend, and I gave this reason why.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I said, first of all, they're not doing very well this season, but the problem is that the first two races, they've had two different reasons as to why they haven't been very good. First race weekend was because of reliability. Shell LeClaire broke down. Second race weekend was because they were just slow. They were really slow in Saudi Arabia. And I said, I'm worried because they still haven't used their Trump card, which is bad. strategy. Surely that's going to be a third reason at some point. The problem is they pecked up zero
Starting point is 00:58:32 points here today and it was another reason entirely that wasn't strategy. This time it was driver error. They have got now three bad results from three Grand Prix, all of which have no common elements. They've been completely different reasons every time. Here we had both drivers effectively in their own race. So if we're talking numbers here, three races, three different reasons why they haven't scored as many points as they should, and we've still got bad strategy to go, folks. We do want any race now. I can feel it in my bones. The scary part is they're closer to Williams in points who are currently last than they are to Mercedes, who are the team in front of them in the points, right? They're already 30 points behind third place in the standings. And,
Starting point is 00:59:23 even more worrying than that is that you most would argue, including myself, that Williams should have more points. Like, Williams said, you know, Albin should have scored points to date. I think they had the point, the pace to score points in Jedder as well. And that's, that's, that is still true. No, no, no, no. You know, you know, the gif of, and I can't remember the guy's name, it's on one of those comedy programs where it slowly pangs into his face as he's desperately trying.
Starting point is 00:59:54 not to laugh. You can just see his whole mouth like, that is kind of how it feels watching Ferrari. It's so hard because you can't help but love Ferrari, right? As a racing fan, you do. Everyone has a soft spot for them. But watching this fall apart is hard not to go, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:00:11 You've got all that money and talent. What is going on? It is a mess. The driving talent today from both drivers wasn't that great. It was like an F1 lobby. It's like an online lobby. Could you imagine at Freddie Vassar's Big Vassi's first press conference being given the opportunity to ask the first question to him
Starting point is 01:00:37 and say, okay, congratulations, Mr. Vasser on the new role, really looking forward to see what you can do at Ferrari. How would you react, Mr. Vass, if I told you that Nika Holkenberg is going to be ahead of Charles LeClair in the Drivers' Championship after three races? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm afraid that's the situation. Oh, I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I mean, six points each, but Holkenberg's ahead on Countback. Gunter likes this. Lando Norris is two points clear of Sholoklare now. Dear, oh dear, that's enough of Ferrari. I'm sure we'll get onto them in another podcast very soon. We'll take one last break, and then we're going to have some Discord submissions. right after this. Moment of the race.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Sam, what have you got? So many moments to choose from. And I don't really know what one to pick. I had a few in mind, and it's kind of all going out the window, quite frankly. I think the one I'm going to go for
Starting point is 01:02:03 is probably, actually, the battle between Lando Norris and Holkenberg. Because out of all the carnage and the chaos that happened up and down the grid. To see two drivers and a driver that couldn't use DRS properly to execute a move, because again, as we mentioned in this podcast multiple times, that would be slow as balls.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You know, he had to get creative with it. And he sent a bit of a dummy. We saw a great little switchback come through. Holgerberg put up a really good defence. It was a really good wheel-to-wheel fight around the tricky part of the track that was exciting to watch. And for me, that's what F-1 is. as a categorical, what is Formula One?
Starting point is 01:02:44 That is Formula One for me. Will to wheel, hardcore racing, where two drivers put everything into it, and it's clean as you like. That was fantastic. So for me, ignore the carnage. That was what I wanted to see. Harry, moment of the race. That's a good contender, but I'll be the boring, obvious one here.
Starting point is 01:03:04 It's the second race to heart. I don't think I've seen... They just all forgot they were. F1 drivers for like 30 seconds. I don't really understand what happened. I don't know, especially considering most of the race was fairly standard. There was a bit of good action, as Sam mentioned,
Starting point is 01:03:26 with the Holkenberg Norris fight. There were a few tasty moves into the fast chicanicane, which I guess maybe the fourth Deroa has helped that up for debate. But then, yeah, and they were all fairly well behaved for the most part, and then they just all forgot. They all lost their heads. for the last lap
Starting point is 01:03:45 and then it was just complete complete carnage. He didn't even get involved, but like Sergio Perez just not doing turn two either. It wasn't involved literally anything, but this is a man who finished fifth in the end. I just didn't do the track. So, yeah, it's got to be,
Starting point is 01:04:02 it's got to be that restart for me, for my moment of the race. I'm glad you brought up Sergio Perez's restart because that might be like the sixth most notable thing that happened on a restart, which just tells you everything you need to know. My moment of the race was Carlos Sinesis Team Radio. What possible, you just, you drove into him.
Starting point is 01:04:30 He might say that his mitigating circumstances where the car was broke, it doesn't matter. You still drove in. Your car still went into Fernando's car, which meant that it went off to the, side of the track and he would have finished last. Like, that still happened.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It doesn't matter why. I just found that quite funny. It was good. I enjoyed that they showed the replay of him with his hand gestures in the car whilst he's doing the team radio as well. Excellent. I guess I'd just love to get produced the outrage from you, Ben. For me, that was the best bit of that whole incident,
Starting point is 01:05:07 was your absolute fury in our text chat that we have. I just... I'm just so baffled. did you get quite swearing. I am sorry, David Croft. I don't mean it, but I didn't really know what you were on about there.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You were talking absolute rubbish. Let's see some submissions from Discord. If you want to get involved in these very easily, you get into the Discord as a result of the link that will be in the description of this episode. We've got a channel in there called submission, so on these race reviews, we ask for 30-second audio clips or so
Starting point is 01:05:41 just after the race ends, that's when we record. So we're going to play out a few from today. And we'll start with Marine. Hey, everyone. This is Marine, and I'm here to submit my moment of the race, which is Yuki Sonoda finally getting his point. Should have been P5, but with the mess, I will take P10.
Starting point is 01:06:03 So have a good time recording. Goodbye. Goodbye. We've had a struggle over here, but thank you for your submission. I just started to interrupt submissions. I've seen two things. one that O'Connor and Gassley are with the stewards that race band Becoming
Starting point is 01:06:18 and then the other one that Hassam just protested the result of the race so it's all going well in the whole race just put it in the big I'm just imagining O'Conn and Gasley with the stewards and you've got like a representative of the team going you know what? Nah it's all right
Starting point is 01:06:36 I don't think you need a penalty on this occasion having to think about it nah he's all right O'Con you're all right on you mate O'con's seving secret quickly. You're so fine. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Let's say from Hectady. My moment of the race is the FIA deciding to announce the five-second penalty of the Carlow signs before the last formation lap, screwing about the points. A little sniffle of the microphone there at the end. It might have been a bear. It might have been eaten.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Well, if you have been eating, please let us go in Wingshays episode because I'd love to hear that story. If the bear is listening, please can you talk about how you ate him? Submission life from a bear's stomach. We need to move on.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Chewbacher. Lord Farkod in the dragon's stomach. Oh, ho, ho! He's staying alive. Mongo. Oh no. I just
Starting point is 01:07:44 I don't even know where to start with this race. I'm confused, but I think my moment of the race would have to be, well, a few moments, good old Crofti going on about Yuki Sanoda's new record of most consecutive place finishes that's not first and how he was devastated that Carlos Science has now ruined that with his five-second penalty. Like, that's not, um, okay. It did seem a strange thing to fixate on, can't lie. An interesting one, but not all that. Let's go to Vig and Spiker next.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I don't even know what to say. I mean, I could just say red flags, but I'll be nice, I guess, and say, Piastri getting points in his first home Grand Prix. Red flags. Cycling Dave up next. Hi, it's cycling Dave. Car Paparazzi. Hashtag Cars Channel and Discord.
Starting point is 01:08:59 The moment of the race is the last red flag by the FIA. Why? Wasn't needed. Finished the race under yellow flag. Signs in both Alpines. get points and finish. Makes no sense whatsoever. Shout out to Waffles.
Starting point is 01:09:22 For existing? Well, the Discord went back for Waffles today, which is great. I mean, I now really want some waffles. We don't have any, so I'm quite annoyed at that. Let's go to Sam's favorite name from the Discord. It's Kibler and Bits. Kibbles and Biscuits!
Starting point is 01:09:43 Hello, late breakers. It's Kibler and Mitz at 3.40 in the morning. Good guy. Eastern daylight time in the old US of A. My moment of the race was Hulkenberg, breaking down on track after the race had finished, so that after the checkered flag, it was immediately a red flag again. Just perfectly sums up the madness that was Australia. And honestly, I think we all need a month break to recover.
Starting point is 01:10:12 from this race. I mean, the process for that, right, is to redo that lap. So they need to reset the grid and we'll have to go again, I imagine. Based on how long that race is, I think Azerbaijan might be tomorrow. I don't think we've got a month anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I hope it is. A month's a long time to wait for another Grand Prix, in it? To be fair, it's a month, but it's the next, after the day, it's Baku, and it's a sprint race. Like, oh, God. I need time to prepare for the carnage.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And it's of course good news because despite the fact that won't be an EF1 for a couple of weeks, your favourite Formula One podcast will be here twice a week, every week, every Wednesday and every Sunday. Oh, you sound like an actual accent. I know. All good always up next. Hi, late breaking. Wow, what a long race. And I really feel for everyone who is not in.
Starting point is 01:11:14 a good time zone to watch this race because it has been a long one. And what a mess and what drama. It's so hard to pick my favorite moment. But I think it has to be at the end, the last red flag where Carlos signs just refused to get out of the car because he was afraid of Fernando Alonso. And then that message over the radio just begging them to not have that time penalty was just, oh my gosh. I don't know. No words. Anyway, love the podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Love you guys. Bye. We love you, all good always. The world's nicest name. And I mean, if we've got time for one more submission, it isn't appearing on my version of the soundboard, but if you want to play something for Beef, Sam, go ahead. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Usually I'm the warning for headphone users. It might not work. I might get sent for a bag of chips, but Beef is submitting something. Amazingly, she goes at talking her own submission. So this is from Beef. Sorry, everyone. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It's coming. Okay, that's enough of that. Yeah, that was more than enough about, I think. Hello, everyone. I'm sorry to interrupt the podcast with more of Harry, but there's been a slight mix up on what was beef submission. So what you just heard was not beef submission. I'll add it in afterwards what Beef actually said.
Starting point is 01:13:09 So some reason Sam thought that was Beef Submission and just uploaded it into the soundboard. Oh my God. This is taking me so long to record this. So, um, it's one of the best things that's happened ever. Anyway, here is actual beef submission.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I'm very sorry, but Sam is a moron. Hello. My favorite moment of the race. Oh, by the way, I'm less stressed now. Much less stressed. Feeling good. Boyfriend Beef got his dream job, by the way, everyone.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Love that. My favorite moment on the race. everything happened. Everything happened. But Logan Sartre just forgot to break. You just gave up, but I just thought that was iconic from him. Anyway, love you all.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Okay, bye. Thanks, Beef. Thank you. Thanks, Beef. And thank you to everyone for putting in their submissions as we really appreciate it. And we'll be back.
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