The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Austrian GP Review

Episode Date: July 2, 2023

The LB boys review the weekend at the Red Bull Ring where Max maxed out points but there was plenty of action further down the field. They discuss their drivers of the day, the many track limit penalties, Perez's recovery drive, and Ferrari's challenge for P2, as well as Saturday's sprint race. If you haven't already heard... we will be recording our British GP Preview episode LIVE from the Williams Racing Fan Zone in London Piccadilly on Weds 5th July! So if you are around we'd love for you to come down - you can find more info here: https://rb.gy/jz6qk FRESH FITNESS FOOD: https://www.freshfitnessfood.com SAVE££ with code LATE60 SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704 TWEET us @LateBrakingF1 BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ EMAIL us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh, and a very warm welcome to the late-breaking F-1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. Today, reviewing the Austrian Grand Prix won by... Max Verstappen. I mean, the gap was very small, though. Gap was really small. Could have gone either way on this. We'll decline to mention the fact that he put for the fastest lap, and that's why it was so close.

But it could have gone either way. Max Verstappen taking a full, clean sweep of points over the weekend. Fastest lap, won both races, and he now holds an 81-point advantage over Sergio Perez in the driver's championship. In the Constructors, it's only 199 points now separating Red Bulls. when they're nearest challenges. It's all good. Sam, what do you make of that one?

Well, the race itself, I mean, despite Max Verstappen, absolutely teasing us with a last flat pit stop, do we think something could go wrong? You know, the engineer can mucking up. He could speak in the pit lane. You know, there's a whole host of things that could go wrong. Nah, nah, nah. Thanks for the old tease there, you cheeky boy, cheeky Max.

If we exclude that, though, overall, maybe race of the season so far. It was fantastic. There were some great battles up and down the grid. We saw some good strategy being involved. We had Ferrari randomly ask if they want to do a three-stop, which is so Ferrari. You know, I really enjoy watching it.

At no point did I think this is dull. Also, the FIA just turned into Oprah Winfrey. You get a black and white flag. You get a black and white flag. You get a black and white flag. And it was just endless. It was like an onslaught of track extension.

And we're going to get into a little bit more of that later about the proper discussion around it, but generally, I thought it was quite fun. Harry, what do you think? I've decided that if you just ignore Max Verstappen,

ignore his existence, F-1's banging at the moment. It's in a great place. I think, and that was a great race. Don't care what you say. It was a good race. And, yeah,

just pretend he's not there. The clerk looks great as a winner. he does, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. To see him on the top stop. Yeah, well done. And, you know,

signs kept Perez behind for so long and that meant that Lecler, you know, got that win. What a race we had. Now, there's a few question marks

there about intimidation that we'll get into a little bit later on. To your point, though, there would be 20 points separating the top three constructors without Red Bull. So you have a valid point there.

Someone, I think, Karoon, sorry, Karin Chandon tweeted just now or earlier on, that Fustapen would be leading the Constructors Championship. He leads it by himself. Well, like 51 points. I said that last week. He's nicked it off me. I mean, he is a friend of the podcast,

so I'm not surprised that he's taking our information. Classic. Anyway, yeah, for him, we'll allow it. We will be talking our moment of the race a bit later on in today's show. We're also going to do a quick review of the sprint race because we had that this weekend. Ferrari, as Sam's already alluded to, looking at a three-stop, declined that, but we'll review their rather successful weekend, a P-2 and a P-4 for them.

Track limits, as Sam has already mentioned again, talk of the town across the weekend. So we'll be getting into whether there needs to be a review of how that's handled. But we're going to start with the race out front. Max Verstappen. He won again. He was very good, wouldn't he? He didn't lead every lap of the race, which is the first time that's happened in a little while. On the other side of the garage, Sergio Perez managed to recover to podiums in both the sprint race and today's race as well.

Sam, after starting P-15, what did you make of Perez's fight back to the podium spot? Yeah, I mean, it was good. It was good. It's what Sergio Perez needed. He got the hammer down. Sorry, Lewis, no longer your phrase. But he did get the hammer down. He executed a lot of the passes in the right place. He was quite clinical with them. The only person he really kind of got stuck. behind because he didn't understand how detection points worked was Carlos Sites. And I think he made that harder for himself. They really needed to be. But quite honestly, he was in the right place at the right time at every point.

People might rave about this. People might go, you know, oh, what a fantastic job he's done. I'm not going to extend the compliment that far. When your teammate, who, yes, okay, we all agree that Max Verstappen is of maybe a higher caliber than Sergio Perez, but when your teammate is before his pit stop for a fast, that 24, 25 seconds in the lead, the car is clearly capable of being that far ahead. I do believe it is the minimum to get yourself back onto that podium. But he did that.

And he did it well. He did it assertively. It wasn't scrappy. It wasn't dodgy. You know, there weren't any moments where you're thinking he's about to throw this away. I think he was very calm and collected with how he executing it. So fair play to him. It was exactly what he was required of.

And he did exactly that. So he found a weekend that was just, if you ignore the first half of the weekend, the race itself was exactly, you know, boxes ticked, confidence games, he could go on from this hopefully thinking now and have a month of good Grand Prix in front of him. Yeah, a busy period coming up for in the next five weeks or something like that. Harry, what did you make of his fight back? Yeah, it was good. You know, a clean comeback.

as Sam said, he got a bit stuck behind Carlott's side and two, yeah, just learn for your mistakes, mate. You do it three times where you didn't get the detection point right. And, you know, we saw Vastappan do a similar move earlier on and did it and nailed it first time. So criticism there. P3, he should have been P2, shouldn't he?

I know he's coming from 15th, but the pace that car has, I think he probably should have been P2. So he should have been P2 in both races. and he was only in the sprint. So that shouldn't happen. But as he say, Sam, it was probably a nice little confidence boost today.

So hopefully that he can then take that into, into this, yeah, very busy month of races and go on from, and push on from there. But yeah, I think P3 today was the minimum that Perez, Peres should have got.

But I think, yeah, he should have been at least P2, really. Unfortunately, this was another occasion where Perez, made the weekend far harder for himself than it needed to be. When it comes to Q2, and I think we mentioned this when it came to his Q1 elimination at Monaco when he crashed into Sandovaugh, you're not getting pole in Q2. You do not need to be the fastest. You had 10ths to spare in that second part of qualifying just to get through to the third part of qualifying. If it had happened

where he had made it through to Q3 and it had two track limit violations in that, that session and it started P10, I think I'd have been more forgiving because at that point you're at least pushing the limits to try and get first. Here, you're just trying to get into the top 10. And the fact that it not happened not once, twice, but three times in that session, is pretty inexcusable. So a lot of the, a lot of the hard work that he had to make today was on himself. Having said that, I think he did all right. I think Austria is tricky to, I think it's tricky because you can get stuck in DRS trains at Austria, which even given the pace of the Red Ball is difficult. I think one-on-one overtakes are actually fairly easy to execute because of the amount of

DRS you can have around the lap, but actually these DRS trains can form quite easily. So I think he did an all right job making his way through the field. I think Red Bull should have pit him when the VSC came out, which was an error on Red Bull's part, not Sergio Perez's part. But yeah, the second half of the race. Carlos Sein should have been dispatched far quicker than what he was. We saw Max Verstappen get it on the first time of asking. You've got two choices. You either dive up the inside of turn three and make your move there, or you buy your time, allow yourself to get the DRS, and then you make the move into turn four. Those are your two options. For three consecutive laps, Perez did neither. He kind of half stuck a wheel on the outside or inside, but never fully committed to the move,

and then was eaten up again because he didn't have the RS. So he just needed to pick one or the other. Overall, I don't think he's a driver of the day candidate. I think he did probably what he needed to do. I would say it was satisfactory. I probably wouldn't go any further, though. I think there's a real risk. Sorry, but I'm just going to batting, actually.

I don't want to talk about Sergio. We're on a slight delay, folks. If you know, that's how bad my insin it is. But, yeah, I mean, Sergio needs to stop making it hard. for himself on the Saturday. He needs to get his act together. And because there is a risk of people being over a complimentary about the fact that he's overtaking, I don't know, 10 cars and a race in by far the fastest car on the track. And realistically, it's kind of self-glorification. When if you just got the job done in the first instance, then you wouldn't need to worry about

this. You might actually have a shot at race wings. You might have a shot of beating Ferrari. You might have a shot of backing up for Stappen or beating him because Stappan probably wouldn't of being able to stop on what lap 70, what two or three, or whatever it was for the fastest lap, if Sergei Perez is starting in second place, or even third place for that matter, or even probably fifth or sixth place for that matter. And yet Sergio Perez believes that he's very much still a candidate

to be the top driver for, you know, the season, which is, you know, mad. You're right, though, I think definitely not a driver of the day candidate. Just a you got the job done that realistically, you've made harder for yourself. This was the bare minimum. Yeah, we'll get into Driver of the Day. and worst driver of the day in a couple of minutes time. Any words on Vastappen at all, Sam, or was it?

There's not too much to say at this point, is there? He's so bloody good. I wish I was that good at anything I've ever done in my life ever, because it's, now, I get it. It's like perfect combination of driver who is top 1% of all time, realistically at this point in his career. And compared to, you know, combined with a car that is probably top 1% of all time, if you were to put them across dominant cars ever now,

and you put those two together as a formula, and you think you are spectacular. But what is scary is, you know, you look at where Perez is in that Red Bull. And that, in theory, if you had what a copy and paste Perez and have two Perez is driving in that Red Bull car, Red Bull wouldn't really be leading this championship

where Ball would not be fighting up the front every race. Red Bull will not be winning every Grand Prix. It would have been nine race wings in a row this season for Red Bull. Max Steppen really is such a different. and defiant factor for that team that is making the difference. He goes the extra 10, 20, 30 percent. I don't know how much further he's pushing, but the guy is able to just pick up seconds after seconds on everyone else.

And when it comes down to those historic arguments, it really does show, you know, we hang it with Hamilton of Bottas or, you know, when Bottas was in the car. Bottas would regularly not be second place in the driver's championship, but Hamilton would be 100 points clear by the end of the year or something like that. The Stappen is doing the same thing. So I'm not going to go into it too much.

It was another flawless victory from Max Verstappen. Didn't leave every single race, but at this point, who really cares? The guy knows exactly what he's doing, and he's doing it so easily. The fact that he was able to take a risk, a pit at the end as well, just shows how comfy they are. Well done to Max. Again, it's just spectacular. I'm surprised he remembers how to pull off an overtake, Harry.

Well, exactly. It's been such a long time for him. I'll try to find different words to describe how he is but he's just pretty good in me look the

the flex at the end of the race with the late pit stop as you mentioned Sam that is that is I don't people be like oh showing off blah blah blah but that it's not it's it's that is team and driver and car

like working perfectly together there was you've got 24 seconds so it's okay but like as you say if something goes wrong you could lose a race win here to Leclair

but nothing goes wrong they come into the pits they change the thighs in like two point something and then and then he off he goes and then nails the fastest lap

and then uh even have the time to swerve left and right down the straight to warm the tide while Lecler is

desperately going I'm catching up I'm catching up at the back here Vastapa was just like, left and right and left and right, just get these tires nice and warm, and Lecler is desperately going, please, please wait. It's just hilarious, the difference between them. Yeah, I can't remember the exact numbers on this, but I think it was about two seconds or so that Vastappen was slower on his out lap versus LeCleur's lap because he was just, he was so confident

in allowing that gap to become that small. in order to then go and set the fastest lap by, I think, a full second on Perez's attempt, which, of course, you would do given new soft tires. But nothing ever looks out of control. I was thinking that yesterday, not yesterday, Friday, when we were watching qualifying, that last sector, he flew through it, but it all looked calm. And then you watched LeCler desperately trying to beat that time. And he looked like it was on the air, like he was about to fly off the road.

I mean, I thought he was at one point. So it's just, but everything just is so effortless. It's ridiculous. Yeah. And you're absolutely right, I think, in terms of it's not cockiness and it's just full belief in one another. I was thinking with the pit stop, maybe you just, Red Bull just say, okay, we don't need to risk too much here. Let's do a safe three second pit stop, which for other teams would probably be their average or even beating their average. But for them, obviously, is quite a bit worse than their 2.2, 2.3. that they usually get. Nope.

They will still go all out to deliver the absolute fastest pit stop they possibly can. Even though in theory would increase the risk of the stop.

There's just such confidence. It's admirable. Driver of the day, Sam. Well, it's down to two for me and I'll give a few names as to who can have this in consideration that won't be getting it. Sergei Perez, as we said,

I think a lot of people might be considering him for me, just got the job done. that he made himself have to do. Carlos Sikes, I thought, had an excellent drive up until he got the penalty. His defending was great. His moves around the cars near him were great. I think for the most part, he had the pace over LeClerc and did a great job essentially

keeping Perez away. So LeCler got the second place. And I think I'm going to have to go separately from Max Verstappling as well. I'm going to give it to Landon Norris. I think not only was that McLaren, the updating McLaren, really, really good. I think Landon Norris did what Max for Stapp indeed in his Red Bull, but essentially fighting with the rest of the cars. The way he held on to the back of science, the way he managed to get past Hamilton,

the lack of track limits, Norris saw himself break as well as fantastic. The communication between him and his team, all that's going on. Norris, when he's up the front, he's got a car that can handle it, really still is such a huge threat. Proved it today. Lando Norris is driver of the day. Yeah, I don't have too much more to add or to change there. signs I thought was great.

I think pace-wise, that was his best weekend of the season so far. I was really impressed with how he got on. Lando Norris as well, he's going to be delighted with where that car is now versus where it was, or where Piastri still is. And I bet Piastri, having seen Lando Norris, is going to be very happy to be in that new car come Silverstone. My driver of the day is Max Verstappen because he won and he was quick. as simple as it gets really. Yep. Oh, yeah. Harry?

I think there's two for me. You're right on signs. He had a good race, especially with that defence towards the end. But I think the two you've already mentioned are Norris and Norris and Vestappen. I think I'll go Norris because Vestappen gets it all the time now. So let's get Lando. It's everything he wants.

I know. So let's give Blando a shout. I thought he was. He's really good around Austria, isn't he? He loves Austria. He loves it. Yeah. And also, a lack of... Well, I guess we didn't hear it,

but a lot of drivers were getting quite irate out there. Lewis Hamilton, call the size. But... Alex Alon. Nores, very calm. Alex Harpon, yeah. Lando was very calm.

And it really made me laugh when his engineer was like, I know you'll hate me, but... But again, it was no like pushback from Lando. He just, just, got on with it and he was very impressive.

So obviously Vastappen is also drive of the day, but I'll go to Lando. Staying with you, Harry. Worst driver of the day. Oh, can I have to go for Hall of Famer, little Yuki. Well, Ben, you gave him under pressure for this weekend and he duly did not deliver. The pressure got to. My beard. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

He, just everything went wrong for him today, didn't it? Quite feisty on the opening lab, quite being, I guess, ambitious word, very feisty. And then just, you know, track limits all the time. I don't know how many penalties he got on the end. They kept flashing up so much. I was like, Uki's got another penalty, not sure what for, but something. But yeah, I'll go for Yuki Sanoda. You know how you mentioned Lando Norris loves Austria?

I think Yuki Sanoda really hates Austria. Do you remember a couple of years ago, I guess it was, when he got multiple penalties for not coming into the pits correctly. And he kept crossing over the line. I think he did it twice. It's a fair shout, and I'm going to copy and paste your answer. Yuki Sanoda is my worst driver of the day. That is one of the worst first laps I've seen in a long time.

Disgusting. The incident that saw him go, onto the gravel is one thing. The turn one incident, where was he going? There was absolutely no room to go on the inside of that. It gets pretty narrow. Like the angles don't work when you go that far on the inside of the back. Manx playing F-123. He genuinely was. He was expecting all the AI to just not go very quickly into the corner. But unfortunately, he wasn't driving against AI. So that was awful in itself. He then went all the way round, turn three. which was a bold strategy,

and we saw if it was going to pay off, and it just about did, but then he just decided to break 12 years too late, which is why he's in the Hall of Fame in the first place for turn 4. And that was it. And the rest of the race didn't improve from there. So Yuki Sonoda for me. Sam, I don't, I don't, sorry, Sam,

I feel like Yuki just didn't know when to stop pushing his luck in that first lap. Like, he just about got away. I got away with it in someone just, but he's lost a bit of front wing. Turn two slash three. Oh, this has worked. At that point, back out of it, Yuki. Stop. Take your win.

Yeah, take your wins. Off you go. Yeah, I mean, I'm on the same boat as you two, but you know the, you know the SpongeBob meme where he puts his hands above his head and he draws the rainbow as he does that, right? Yeah. I'm going with, I'm going with Alpha Tauri today. by far, just collectively, absolute horse done as a unit.

Like, Yuki, get so many penalties, but was not helped by Alpha Tauri mucking up the pit stop where he had to service the penalty, right? Failed to serve penalty correctly. That's what Yuki's fault. Why do teams struggle with that so much? Count to five, everyone. Count to five.

Come on now. You've got a watch. all the technology in the world. There's even a man there with a watch helping you. And then on the other side of the garage, wasn't as bad, but Nick DeFries, you were still complete poop.

You just decided that Magnuson once again, you just hate him. He's not a vendetta against KMAG. He's not there. Don't exist. No track for you, KMAG. You like rally in the gravel for you,

sunshine. Also, trap limits, ignore them. That was fun. As a team, they were wholeheartedly crud. Can't say other words, folks, because this is a family-friendly podcast, but they were pants, rubbish, put them in the big,

go to the next race to start again. It was so bad. With Nick DeVries, and we saw exactly the same thing throughout his Formula E career as well, just does not leave any room. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

It's it. That's right. an honorable shout-out for West Drive of the Day but I don't think is a contender compared to the Alpha Towery drivers Lewis Hamilton I don't think it was at all close to worst driver of the day I'm not saying I'm not saying it was I'm just saying worst attitude of the day

Stinky It was also a bit slow Well his brakes get worked mate most of the time But they weren't broken There wasn't an issue They just was not very good Yeah. It felt like ever since his Q1 elimination on the Saturday morning,

he just kind of from that point onwards was like, nah, can't be bothered with this people anymore. Yeah, literally like, get me out of here. I'm done. He was not in the mood, was he? Big brain strategy of the day, Sam. I've mentioned it already on the podcast. It's three-stop Ferrari.

Absolutely love it. They just out of nowhere. What do you think about the floor? Three stop. Also, the better is, stroll, when they did the three stop, anyway,

it was like, yeah, you know what, a bit of that cake over there, cut me a slice, I'm having a bite. Honestly,

look, Ferrari, let Sikes do the strategy work because the man knows what he's doing. He's very good at it. Seems to, it's got a bit of a long-so in my think,

about the whole dictating the race from inside the car. You, Ferrari, the people paid to do the strategy, have a day off. Go and sit down, enjoy yourselves.

Sikes will run. it from the car, I think. My one is, I think Lawrence Stroll needs to talk to someone at Sky Sports and get Bernie Collins back because there are some questionable decisions they're making this year. Yeah. And I'm not even, the Alonzo one, I'm going to park that. It's actually the Lange Stroll one for me that I thought was a pretty terrible idea. So everyone around Lans Stroll decided to pit under the VSC.

good idea. Landstrol, nah, not going to pit him. He was on the medium tire. I was on the same tire as all the others that stopped. No, not going to stop him.

He does the full lap, Astermite and realize, or they might have been on to someone here. Let's pit him now. And then the VSC ends as soon as he's in the pits. That was, it wasn't even a split second decision they had to make on that either.

That was just a poor play. Like they really should have pit him there. And he came out in what? 15th place. Lance Stroll actually had some, solid pace this weekend. He was pretty much on a par, I'd say, with Alonzo. Obviously, he beat him just about in the sprint race,

out-qualified him as well. And then obviously that kind of ruined it from there. He got back to 10th for a point, but I feel like a seventh was probably on the cards for him. Harry? You've taken both of mine. Sorry, mate. I'll land on...

Oh, God. Yeah, I mean, the Ferrari one was ridiculous. again today, they gave it a good go to try and make things worse. Just did it one of a wing. Just dig it one of a wing. No, like the, and I guess in the end, oh, I mean, yeah, why not? Anyway, they just, the three-stop thing was bad. I think of the first stint, they probably, it was marginal, but I think they probably should have let signs go.

I mean, they definitely should. Yeah. So, yeah. I'll just I'll just summarize as Ferrari, which is what this award is made for. So I'll go for them. It is a fair point. We're going to take our first quick break and we'll be back discussing track limits on the other side. Bye.

Congratulations to anyone who kept up with the amount of track limit penalties that occurred and black and white flags that were thrown around. Pretty much half the grid managed to find themselves getting at least a five second time. penalty as a result of track limits. There were a lot of complaints throughout the week because it didn't start there either. There were plenty that were done in qualifying. Nearly 50 laps were deleted in qualifying as a result of track limits. So, Sam, do you think the system needs to be reviewed at all?

I know some of the drivers started complaining and pitching their own ideas on this. Don't care what the drivers think on this one. Track limits 100% need to be enforced. There needs to be a line that you can't cross. Like with any sport, there has to be an out. of bounds lying and I think this is the first time in a long time that we've seen a proper you know we're stamping it down we're we're putting down our foot not allowed to um you're not allowed to go outside these lines and you get told off what I actually would like to see

more of is firstly I know it's hard for us the viewer but I think the FIA need to be faster and more up to date with who is doing what it took laps on laps to finally get a someone's getting a black and white flag but they went across that line like seven or eight laps ago and you're like, well, that might change how they're racing. They might have gone wide again in that time because they've got been informed. You know, it needs to be faster, more coherently. The FIA needs to be more transparent with how they're delivering those messages. You've got people like Hamilton who whilst you had an absolute stinker on,

needs to go over and how to think about what's going on, I think, quietly in a little room. He was very right to sit there and go, well, I've seen other drivers go across the line, left, right and center. Are they getting pulled up on things? And only when that came up did you suddenly start seeing a flurry of black and white flower, black or white flag, five second penalty. to it felt like they're always seven or eight laps behind. Secondly, I love the fact that the white line is now the law, right?

You put all four tires past the white line. That's the law. The way to stop people doing that, and some people will disagree with this, is just surround the track without runoff area, but have gravel. So you're punished for actually running off of trap limits. You know, you put a bit of curb up, fine, but you go past the curb, you're in gravel. And we saw what happened with quite a few drives of the likes of Sanova running straight off, KAMag obviously went off into the gravel.

A few other people took a little trip into the gravel as well. You get punished if you go wide. It's more than just gaining time that way. You haven't got to worry about it. I think gravel works. That would also be how I might revise the system. But in terms of how penalties are given, no, you stick to the white line and that's the rules of the sport.

I don't think we need to change anything just because drivers are having a wing. What did you make of all the track limits this weekend, Harry? Yeah, shut up drivers, firstly, because it's, you know, stop going out. But I agree with Sam. There needs to be a better way because it's overall, the FIA or the stewards and ex-execchio were writing what they did

and the way they policed it, I think. I know they were a bit slow on some of them, but to be honest, there were so many of them that I can sort of understand why. But yeah, there needs to be a better way. Gravel, yes, I think is an obvious one. but I almost kind of think Austria had this solution a few years ago and then I guess the drivers complained.

They had the rumble strips that were quite harsh if you went over them and sometimes broke your car. For me, why is that not a solution? Because you don't go over the rumble strips then, because your car will break. And I know people say, well, that's dangerous because they may break the car and have a massive accident. But I just don't drive on them.

That would be the solution. And it's the same for if Graver was there, they wouldn't go out there or if there was a barrier there. Obviously, they're not going to be a barrier there. But it's that incentive to not go out that far. It's just there's got to be a better way of doing it. I think the way it was police was for this track in its current state. They did it correctly. I still think there's too many warnings, black and white flags, etc.

Before you get a penalty, but whatever. But yeah, I think there needs to be something. different there going forward because it's not a good look for Formula One having this. I know it's funny to see all the penalties come up. It's good for us to chat about, etc. But overall, it's not a – imagine if we came down to the race win being decided by that. I think it just looks a bit stupid. So, yeah, they did the right thing today, but I think moving forward, something needs to change

on that track because I just have some gravel there because they won't go there. They won't even go near it. They don't go near it on the exit of turn four. So why would they go near it on the exit of turn nine and ten? Loved every second of it. Absolutely loved it. Thank you. The FIA policing something and doing it consistently.

I know the drivers hated it. I know some fans hated it. I loved it. Thank you. If you don't want to get penalties, I've got a great idea. stay in the track. Like, that's what... I've got to give...

Gotta give David Croft a lot of credit for this because he had a spot on analogy here when he was discussing this with Ted Kravitz on SkyCom's, which was, should we turn up at Wimbledon next week and just test out having balls that are landing out of bounds are actually fine now? It was a great comparison.

And why should it be any different here? The track is the track. And the FIA are very clear. if you go outside of that white line, that is the point you are off track. There is no confusion as to where that is. The drivers are all aware of it from the first moment of practice all the way through to the race and they know it's going to be penalised. Great. Nothing more needs to be done. If you want to play it safer, but risk being a bit slower, that is on the driver. The driver then makes the decision. Do they want to be safer within track limits but potentially get rid of a

couple of attempts on their lap or add a couple attempts on their laps. Or would you rather go the other way, play it a bit riskier, but know that you will get penalised. You will get your laps invalidated, like Perez did, for example, in Q2. That is on the driver. That is strategy. That is part of what makes Formula One, or should make Formula One, the best motorsport in the world, the best motorsport series in the world. If you want it to be the pinnacle of motorsport, this is the sort of thing you have to do. You can't give in to drivers who say this is too difficult. No, it's your decision. You're the driver out on track.

You play it however you won. You face the consequences if you can't stick to whatever the rules are that we say. Agree on your points in terms of gravel and the increased curbs. That's absolutely fine and agree on those. But even without those, I don't think the penalty system needs to be adjusted. The only thing that needs adjusting is the drivers and their approach to it. The drivers that were well disciplined out there today were rewarded. Those that were, those that weren't, they were punished. There were a few positions decided because of penalties. I'm absolutely fine with it.

Don't care. The only thing I would say is that I think there should be some sort of, they've got such a massive list of graphics that they have nowadays. I think they should have, they should make it easier for the person watching to see who's got what. I think the system, yeah, just whether it is a graphic or whether similar to how they've got it on the Codemasters games, to be honest. Like, with them, you know straight away as to... Oh, go on, Aaron. This is my first podcast, everyone.

Tim is he talked to his dad. It wasn't even... Anyway, Carol. Did you actually have a point? I was just agreeing with you. I was just about to say like the F-1 game. Yeah, okay. Yeah, whether they could actually put something like that in,

just so everyone knows, okay, this person has had a black and white flag. This person is going to get a penalty the next time they go over. And then I actually think that adds to the drama, because if you are closing in on the last few laps and you've got the driver in first, who's one warning away from a penalty, and you can very easily see and detect that, I think that adds to the drama. Whereas right now,

I think you'd have a situation where it's unknown and someone might have forgotten about it. So I was just so happy that they stuck to their guns and didn't give in on this. Yeah. A little question, I guess, for both of you.

How would you both feel about having to serve five second penalties before the end of the race? And by doing that, because you're thinking, obviously, The current way to do that is take a pit stop, sit at a pit stop and wait. Obviously, that's got actually a five-second penalty if you're just having to drive in and drive out again. But what would you feel like if we had, on tracks that can, almost like a Joker corner that was five seconds long,

that if you had to serve a penalty before the race, but you haven't got a pit stop left, you have to declare, I'm going through the Joker corner to make up my five-second penalty. Because I think it can be confusing for new viewers to go, this person served their penalty, but this person didn't. go drop down places and, you know, so on and so on. So I feel like that could make a bit more exciting and a bit more on track action rather than just deciding things on a timing screen afterwards. Go on, Harry. I, they do something like this is a motor GP, don't they? I think, Joker lap type of. They do it in Rallycross. Yeah. I think I, I think this solution is to keep it, or not to confuse people, I think the solution is, as you've already mentioned,

with a graphic rather than the joker lap because then I guess you then get into the situation as of why are people doing joke collapse and then what if you have to have a joke a lap for every race but then no one gets a penalty? I don't know. It feels convoluted but I appreciate the point that there needs to be

a better way to to show it to people because I think if you weren't I mean I don't think I kept up with all the everyone who got penalty this afternoon. I don't think I could name all of them. The little graphic that came up on the bottom we've never had before saying these drivers still haven't taken their five second penalty.

I think they made that up for the sport. Yeah. Oh my God. I need to do so. Just go on candle. A sort of template. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah. So I think today as probably, I bet they're already thinking about this at the F1 TV. F1 TV offices. A better way to show it if we get into that situation again. Yeah. I think I agree with that. I think I'd just find a way to better present it.

What I would say actually, actually, the two, I think what was your original point, Sam, about the time delay between it actually happening and the penalty being given. I don't think we saw this today, but I was wondering whether we would see it late on was we still had a driver as being investigated for track limits, essentially the last time where they would get the penalty. I could envisage a situation where a driver desperately at that point, as soon as they get that warning, comes into the pits to avoid having to serve five seconds in the pits, knowing that if they do it that way round, the five seconds added on at the end of the race will cost them less than it will serving it

in the pits. So if there is that delay between it's being investigated and it's being handed out, at that point, I can see a team going, right, pit the driver now and we will lose less as a result of that, which we should really avoid. Yeah, I mean, clever tactics as well, but yes, I agree that we want to mitigate that. If you are, if you're being penalised, you should be penalised. A completely unrelated point, but breaking news.

Aston Martin have lodged a protest over the results of the race. Oh, what do they want? Do they want a lot of so to win? Anything specifically? No, no.

That's, it's just, just breaking now. No idea. Yet undisclosed, apparently. No, just kidding. Astor Martin,

don't fancy the staff are winning. They think. Everyone else in front of Alonzo should be disqualified. Oh, apparently the reason is we don't like it. Oh, that's good to know. More on that later. We'll take our next short break. We'll be discussing Ferrari right after this.

After a few difficult results lately, Ferrari managed to find themselves quite comfortably as the second best team out there today, providing the fact that Aston Martin's claim of the race being in valid doesn't come through. They finished second and fourth. So Charlotte Claire was second and Carlos Seins fourth. They also had a man on the podium in the spring race as well. So it went very well for them and they now sit just 20 points behind Mercedes who are in second, Ferrari still in fourth. Pretty good weekend for them, Sam. What did you make of their efforts? This has been a bit of a good turnaround for Ferrari in the last couple of race weekends. The

the bench update, as I like to call it, for Ferrari, which turns their side point into what literally looks like a park bench that you can sit on. It seems to be doing them some favours, because arguably in Canada, they were the closest car to Red Bull. And now in Austria, you know, they've been the closest car to Red Bull. And Fangio Alonso, obviously, you might remember, came out and said, you know, I'll never not be on the podium again. Well, Ashton Martin have, you know, diminished their pace in the last couple of races. They've been nowhere near really. consistently what they were doing the first half of this first half of the season we've had so far. So it looks like LeCler, Sykes and Ferrari have started to slowly turn it around.

It looks like they are becoming the more consistent second fastest team of the lot. In the championship that we're all interested in, that isn't Red Bull dominating, Ferrari do look like they are leading the way. Now, I think it goes both ways. I think the Ferrari updates of what Freddie Vass is starting to employ is starting to take effect. We're starting to see his mind work. within Ferrari and now it's starting to take hold. You've got to remember he joined at the start of the year.

So everything that probably went on anywhere between March through to maybe May time wasn't really of his doing. You probably thought, yeah, the numbers look good. We'll see how it goes. And now he's started to get his fingers into the lovely R&D pies to see if he could cook up and nice little update. And, you know, maybe this is the first one we're seeing because it does seem to be working. And whilst there's still nowhere near Red Bull, you know, Max and Stappen and Red Bull were

truly dominant today. They completely outclass Mercedes. McLean with their new updates, despite also beating Mercedes, still weren't really in touching distance of them. Ashton Martin, 6th and 10th, not really anywhere close to them the whole time. And, you know, when Perez is having a bad day, which is more often than not at the moment, Ferrari are able to capitalize. So it's looking on the up.

If they can keep this momentum going, they can keep bringing a few more upgrades. They can keep growing the car in the right direction, which, you know, if that transitions into the 2024 season, great, they've got a good car on their hands. I feel very positive for them. The Claire did a brilliant job, but also Sykes was great at defending and shielding the Claire. And we've all said on the podcast already, we arguably think that Sykes should have got past the Claire

being allowed to race off on his own. And maybe the result will look different. Maybe that gap that the Stappan had to pit into wouldn't have been there if Sykes had been allowed to go through that early in the Grand Prix. But my point is, they have a brilliant Grand Prix. It's been their best for a while, I think. And it's nice to see the updates for them are actually taking effect

and they're actually having a positive outcome because of them. I feel good. Do you share in the optimism, Harry? Yeah, I think the most optimistic or most positive thing for Ferrari today is their race pace. Because they've been there on a few occasions in qualifying this year and then so been nowhere in the race or fallen back in the race. But today they were, well, they were nearest challenges to Red Bull, which I don't think that's really been the case since potentially. Bahrain, but even then as questionable with Alonzo's pace and the Aston Martin.

So, yeah, encouraging, very encouraging signs. I'm on the same sort of wavelength as I was for Mercedes after Spain, which at the moment, oh dear. Because

Ferrari were quite good here last year, again. Maybe it's just that sort of thing. But I have to say it was encouraging for them today. I know they tried to mess things up with strategy, but even that they even the car is good enough to even make up for that so yeah definitely encouraging signs for Ferrari but I think that you know the position of second fastest team this year has swung from race to race so I would not be surprised if next race Mercedes is second fastest again I mean I've been there on the verge of writing another apology letter after today but I'm surprised you have a similar mate I mean yeah um But next race, it could all be different again. They've got upgrades coming, as we know, for the next race, Mercedes.

So it could swing. So definitely encouraging, but I just need to see a few more races to think or to conclude that they are now the second fastest team. Yeah, definitely. I don't think we've had a race this year. I don't think we've had two races this year back to back where the second fastest team has been the same. it seems as if every single race is a new team.

We definitely had, you know, Ferrari looked pretty good in Bahrain, the first race of the season, but then they were all full at Jeddah, where Aston Martin were far better, and then Aston Martin had been off of the boil in the last couple of races, whereas Mercedes came into prominence at Spain, Ferrari were good here, they were good at Azerbaijan, Miami, they weren't as good.

So it is completely going all over the place this battle for second, which, to a point we made earlier, be interesting if that was for first, not to, obviously, you've just got to stand by. Just rub it in, mate. I know, I know. It doesn't exist. I told you it doesn't exist. McLaren are coming as well because they want to continue the trend of different second fastest car.

Next, next rate, Silverstone, Piascri, third and fourth, I reckon. They weren't far off today. And I'm very glad we haven't done this yet in terms of reviewing bold predictions. But I'm very glad Piastri didn't have the upgrade as well. my words, copy and paste for next race. I'm sicker to it. It's happening again. I'll have to see if it will count this time, though.

Yeah, it's... That, that, don't you dare. I don't know about that, mate. But we... Yeah, so overall, I think I'm... Yeah, I agree with Harry. You just need to see more than one race. Certainly in terms of...

Charle of Clare needs to work out why his car doesn't work as soon as there is a drop of rain on the circuit. Because Spain, we had something similar. Here just had nothing in qualifying, got nothing left, but was absolutely fine out there on the Sunday and on the Friday. And again, Carlos Sainz, I think that was probably his best weekend of the season so far. He just had, he had a great pace all weekend long. I definitely would have let Carlos Sines go in the first part of that race because, yeah, Vestappan probably would have just sailed off into the distance anyway, but give it a go Ferrari. I don't got much to lose, mates.

Like, go for it. Well, yeah, why not? So, yeah, overall, pretty encouraging. They did try their best on a few occasions to make it not so, but they stuck to it. My overall conclusion is this. If you bring the softest tires to a race weekend, Ferrari will be great. If you bring the hardest tire compounds to a race weekend, Mercedes would be great. And then if it's anything in between, Aster Martin will be great.

It just seems as if they are at completely opposite ends of that, because as soft as the tires will get, Ferrari are great. But Mercedes on the hard tire seem to be better. So, yeah, need to see more, though. See more buts. Great reference there. Right. Should we review bowl predictions, as I've already alluded to it? Oh, yeah.

We think so well. Let's start with you, Harry. What was your bowl prediction? I said that Lapland was coming into force this weekend, and both Alpines would be in the top seven in the Grand Prix, in the main race, and Gassely tried. He gave a good go, didn't he? Gave it a good go.

Ockon was. asleep. I don't know where he was. But yeah, it's a no. It's a no one that one. Yeah. Yeah, they weren't very quick, were they in the end? Team that were quick on half for the garage was McLaren, which relates to Sam's bowl prediction. Look, I got quite excited when I saw that Landon Norris, and, to be fair, in the spring shootout, Piascri wasn't too far off either. And I was like, okay, looking positive. Piazper is come forward in the main race and Lando just hold on

and then, yeah, I don't think the Eskri had a bad race at all because it shows you how much the car was struggling and how good the car could be. But yeah, you know what? I'm not too gutting about this one. You know, yeah, yeah, well that's

it wouldn't go on that. I just, yeah. Oh, well, got another one wrong. So me, F1. Don't do that, please. I'll be broken. And to complete the fact that the abacus is do not to be, do not need to be changed whatsoever on this race weekend. I did not get my bold prediction right.

I said that the top five in qualifying would be separated by less than a 10th. Charles Leclair did do that. So well done God, Leclair. The problem is he didn't bring three people along with it. So it's very much wrong. And I am glad because at least there was one driver who was within that one 10th gap. If I'd said it for the sprint shoot, how I could not be more wrong if I tried because of the Staffan dominated that one. But well done, Leclair. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, no movement at all. Speaking of spring races, Harry, how did you find that? Look, it was entertaining.

It was entertaining and I will not deny that it was entertaining. But that's not because it was a bloody sprint race. It would have been that entertaining had it been a normal-sized race and it was only entertaining because there was a bit of rain and there was some like strategy at play there was strategy so that made it interesting

I don't care I don't care I said this in the Discord afterwards do you know what would have made it better 50 more laps on the end of it would have been belting but no it won't catch on it won't catch on as a concept that's never catching up I'd yeah call it a Grand Prix or something um yeah look no it's one French

I can't speak French I'll let the funky music do the talking Oh God, it goes aloud, referendum Oh man The Dean Coyle on the podcast Oh God, Floier Oh, no Anyway

Yeah, my point is Yes, it was entertaining But It just doesn't justify the need It was just sort of getting there and then it finishes. I just feel like short change by a sprint race, even when it's entertaining, because I'm just like, well, where's the rest of it?

Because I wanted to keep going. It's the next thing. I was always over the footlong. I walked away with a bit of crusp from subway. Exactly. Yeah, so I will not deny that it was entertaining. It was a very entertaining, 24 laps.

But that's not why I won. Jack Mahler. I want, yeah, exactly. I want more than that. So, entertaining, but I still hate them. I can't stop picturing now, walking in and asking for a sprint subway. You just get up at the end, me.

Oh, man. Sam, what did you make of it? Um, oh, no, boys. Oh, no. Oh, no. I actually thought it was all right. I'm not saying it wasn't all right. Yeah, but I still hate it.

That's my, that's my point. right. If you were to, the reasons why it was all right, okay, change more conditions, strategy and, you know, different tactics at play, that makes any race enjoyable. Doesn't matter whether spring, main race, I don't care where it is. That is what makes a fun race. Competitive cars, different tactics, changeable conditions, don't know what tires are good. At any point, that makes it fun. And because it now doesn't reset the grid order for Sunday, I don't care if Sergio Perez makes up the places that he missed up because he's still back in 15th place come Sunday.

So while I don't think it's perfect, I don't think it is the solution, while I think it's a bit of a pain in the backside, I did enjoy just seeing 24 more laps of good racing and that was better than a practice session. And I'm sorry to all you practice worshippers that like watching cars go around with some weird little bits. Yeah, I'll see you out there with your high,

your flovies and like strolling a bin bag and some, you know, weird metal bits on the side of cars. Sure, I get it. Science is a thing and it's cool. But I did just kind of like seeing more racing. And when it doesn't impact the main race, I don't hate it as much. I don't love it, but I'm not the same level as Ben who's about to blow his top. Hate it anymore. People have been wondering whether this sprint race would be the sprint. that would change my opinion on this. Maybe Austria. Maybe Austria could be the track that turns things around and we can deliver a great

sprint race. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. My opinion has changed. I think sprint races are even worse than I did before because of this race. And I'll explain why. Because, because. Because that was a lot of fun.

I really enjoyed the sprint race. But to your point, why did I enjoy it? None of the reasons I enjoyed it had anything to do with the fact that it was a sprint race. And most importantly is this. What is the whole point of sprint races? What is the number one reason they exist? It's because drivers are flat out from the point of the lights going out to the check and fire.

They're completely flat out. No strategy. That's the whole selling point of sprint races is strategy doesn't factor in. Yet, because of conditions changing, strategy was forced upon sprint races. I mean, that's not the sprints fault. Well, it absolutely is because the sprints aren't supposed to have strategy.

You've just blamed an enableness object's organisation for weather. I'm with him. I'm with him. But that is my point. Spring races aren't supposed to have strategy, yet it had strategy this time because of something outside of what a sprint would normally have and it made it great. The whole point of sprint races is that they're not supposed to have strategy, yet as soon as one did, it was a fantastic watch. But on any normal sprint, that can happen with any normal, that can happen with normal races.

Yeah, but we have strategy in normal races. We have pit stops. We don't have pit stops in a normal sporing. We don't have pit stops every time. Hold on, I get to my point. What are you all about? With a stress, I'm going to mute him. Let me bloody talk.

I'll get a scrape. We have some races. Is he actually muted him? We have races. Where, you know, we have races. We have races. right, where you're not allowed to, we appear, and it's basically the most dull experience in the world,

and everyone goes circles around on the same two sets of tyres, and we cross the line, and that's done. And then some races, we have where there's changeable conditions. You can apply it to any session, qualifying, gets more excitement, changeable conditions. You know, you can't say that that doesn't happen. So I think you're just using the fact that you both don't like springs

to just go, oh, I just don't like him anymore because something was exciting about them. I just, things can be fun for different reasons, and that can be surprising. That's all I'm saying. It was a surprise. I liked it. I thought it was good fun.

I'd rather see it over a practice session. Oh, look, they can't talk now, because I'm muting them both. I'm going to kick him off in a minute. It's not fun because it's a sprint race. That's Ben's point, right? It's fun because it's like a Grand Prix, but it's only 24 laps. And the sprint race isn't the fun part about it.

Mini Grand Prix. It was fun. Let's call it mini Grand Prix, then. But just have a Grand Prix. You do. You do it on the Sunday. I don't have had that at all if the race was only the Sunday. The Saturday would be boring anyway.

What is the point in it? More fun. My point is the reason it was exciting is because of a reason that isn't supposed to even exist in sprint races. I don't care. It was still fun. Great. Let's have a race on Thursday as well then. And a race on Wednesday.

And a race on Tuesday. Let's just have nothing in life. Races on Sunday can be boring. So why can't the Saturday be fun? But they all have pit stops and they all have strategy. We're not for going to agree on this, folks. I would hope we can agree that Sunday's races have pit stops.

Yes, but that was obviously a sip of the effing tongue, folks. Anyway, they still suck. We'll have a short break. We'll be back with a moment of the race after this. lying of meltdowns. Harry, moment of the race. What have you got?

There are a few contenders here. We've already mentioned one, which was Yuki Sonoda living up to his Hall of Famous status and just not breaking anywhere. I don't want to take all of them. So I'll go for... There's a couple of great team radios.

I'll go for Toto Wolf. Lewis Hamilton, as we've already mentioned, was unhappy. bunny today in his Mercedes. And Toto twice, Toto found the need to go on the radio and tell him to get on with it. But the second time, when he said,

I know the car is bad, please drive it. That is, that's brutal. What a message. Also, I kind of see what he's trying to say, but in his head, do you think that sounded more motivational than it came out? This car is terrible.

Please drive it. Boring on Ruse. Sharper do your job. shut it shut it yeah that that made me chuckle but there are other team

videos which I'm assuming you guys will come on to so I'll leave that I'm going to go to Sam next on this because I am going to have to think of another one because I had that one as well

well to give you a little bit more time to think the details of the Ascomarting protest have just come out and it is because they believe

certain cars were not penalised by track limits swing may went over trap limits a certain amount of time. So they are expecting penalties to be applied post-race. So this is a classic F-1. Who knows what the result actually is if it's found to be true? Be really funny if those certain cards are from 11th down. No one cares about them.

Sure, Astor Martin, okay. My moment of the race. You know what? Some great on-track battles, despite it being Sergio Perez not understanding how DRS could work or Crofty on the sky. commentary box, understanding that, you know, there is a detection point in turn three. I suddenly decided that the DRS was only activating in turn one for some reason. I'm going to say it was the battle between Perez and Sikes.

I thought it was a really fun three-lap battle, went all the way through the lap, side by side. That's what you want to see, not just battles ending with the DRS pass. So enjoyed it, despite it being Sergian Perez's slight incompetence with understanding where the DRS line is, it was good fun. I think the actual battle itself is the serious answer, so I'll give the slightly sillier answer, which is the team radio surrounding that very battle. Correct.

Carlos Signs being intimidated. He's Sergio Perez. What do you think he meant? I don't quite know. I think he meant intimidated. Do you think he mean like crowded? Because they were getting quite close. Like, you know, get crowded off the track.

But I don't know. You were in track limits, right? He's attacking. He's the car attacking. he could be wherever he wants doesn't hit him. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it might have been something like that

where he was like not leaving him enough space, but it seemed all okay. I know there were questions about signs actually moving in the breaking zone, but yeah, I don't quite know what he meant because as far as I'm aware, and I will admit, I haven't read the regulations from first letter to last.

I don't think there's any mention about you can't intimidate other drivers by trying to overtake them. We've done it on the podcast. You know, we intimidate each other all the time. Yeah, yeah. Also, it's getting funny how those complaints of moving under braking go away the moment that the driver gets passed. You never get brought up again, do they?

No, are we still going to be able to. It's all right. Yeah, no, mind. We'll move on. Yeah, watch on the bridge. So those are our moment of the races. We do have moment of the races from our Discord. of missions. So if you'd like to get involved, you can join the Discord on these race day Sundays.

And then there's about 10, 15 minutes after the race is finished where we'll be asking for them. But the question is, will the soundboard work? Folks, we're on the old soundboard today. My old friend's back. Let's see if it's back with vengeance. Everyone's chanting it. We're going to go to Frazzle. Or are we? here we go my moment of the race was knowing that if Max didn't stop for the fastest lap

I could have actually cooked an omelette in the time that it took for him to pass the line and then for Leclair to pass the line ridiculous that's a quick omelet you're cooking there son can you imagine an omel

with frazzles in them I know that's awful I would like a video sent him by Frazzle of him timing himself a 24 second omelet please Okay, now full disclosure, this might be the longest submission that Skyler has ever done. I think it just about reaches three seconds. 24 kilobytes.

I know. Give some consideration for the amount that we can store on here, Skyla. Come off. Five second penalty for intimidation. Less of that. Well done, Skada. Top Dog. Inspector.

Seb is up next. Hey guys, Inspector Seb here. My moment of the race is DeVries having obviously such a good race beating his teammate. Definitely had nothing to do with Yuki's penalties and the fact that DeVries pushed him off the track. Nothing at all. DeVries is on the win. He's on the climb. He's definitely not getting his seat taken away from him.

I sense some sarcasm there. I think there might have been some in there. Hmm. A sprinkle perhaps. I do have to give a quick shout out though for Inspector Seb because they have labelled their submission perfectly. Inspector Seb, Austria, M-O-T-R. Great. I didn't need to edit the name of it whatsoever

before uploading it and I love that. Saving me time. Thank you, Inspector Seb. Let's go to All Good Always next. Highly breaking. I'm back for another submission after missing out the last Grand Prix one because I was just too exhausted. And if I would have recorded a submission, I think it'd be totally incoherent due to lack of sleep.

But anyway, my moment at the race for this Grand Prix was when there were four cars racing and battling for 16th place. I mean, it was exciting. But it kind of makes you wonder, what's the point? But yeah, anyway, love the podcast, love you guys. Bye. Oh, just going to kick me old depression there and the last little big of that submission.

just a little. Just brought the moon right down. I love the tone. Let's go to Joy next. Can someone explain to me why Ferrari said, hey, we're going to extend your stint, and he's like, okay, but then they pit him with the next lap.

Was that to confuse people? Because it confused me. Yeah, I completely forgot that. Yeah, we're going to extend them. Might be raining the end. Box, box. I think they were just trying a dummy. Which was a bit pointless because there was no positions to be games.

Come on. Let's go to Norm from Texas. Norm from Texas here and I figured I'd give my moment of the race. And guess what? My moment of the race that cemented this weekend as possibly the best weekend in F1 we've had so far was the KMAG versus Albon versus Olcon going three wide into turn three. and they kept battling and guess what? It was good.

It cemented that this weekend in F1 was the best that we've had so far. So, anyway, that's my moment of the race. Keep breaking late. And lastly, the best name today. Darth fart noise. My moment of the race was

lap 70 when Charlotte Claire took out 22nd of Max Westappen's lead. I thought this championship was back, you know, exciting again. But then Max posted a fastest lap again. Okay. Bye. That fastest lap could be the difference at the end of this season. Took the lead from 80 points up to 81 points. So it's worth keeping an eye on. Did you guys also see the guy that does the jetpack stuff just fall out of the sky before? Yeah. It was like a proper comedy cartoon sketch. Like,

He looks down at his left-hand jetpack and he's like, oh, no. It's not working anymore. And then he just falls... My favourite bit of it is the camera cutting to Oscar Piascriy, who's just having a drink going, oh, that's all good. You're a highlight there.

That's all our submissions for this time, but we'll be back for the review, obviously, of the British Grand Prix. The review week. Well, yeah, I'll see what I mean. Next time we have a moment of the race, yeah. Yeah, it's all good.

Well, that's all good. Slick Rate the race, Sam, out of ten. I'm giving this one and eight. Ooh. Harry? I'm going to agree. Eight.

I'm going to go eight as well. Three. We're all friends again. Yay. Hey, lads, we don't ate each other anymore. We all love each other, really. No, eights here. But plenty of eights for Austria.

Austria, every time. Great rate. Can't miss. Solid, great race. Great race. Terrible. That'll do it for today's show.

Before we go to Sam for the outro, just a quick mention. We had the very tragic death this weekend of Dillano Van Toff, who was tragically killed at Spa on Saturday. I know there was a moment's silence before the race today at Austria. We just want to express our,

our condolences and our thoughts, of course, go to his friends and his family. And also since our last episode as well, Bob Fernley, who was a long-time man at Force India before obviously became Ashton Martin, very integral to the consistency and the success that Force India had in the midfield throughout the 2010s. So I just want to express our condolences on both of those before we go. But Sam, if you wouldn't mind getting us out of here. Folks, it's been a big of a wild ride as the podcast and the race weekend has been. I hope you've enjoyed it all.

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