The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Hungarian GP Review

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

A *very tired* Sam & Harry review the Hungarian GP that saw Verstappen dominate to give Red Bull a record-breaking 12th consecutive win. They discuss Perez' recovery to the podium, the turnaround in t...eam fortunes between McLaren, Ferrari & Aston Martin, Mercedes' rollercoaster weekend, Ricciardo's success and KMag's poor performance. As always they also review their predictions, share their DOTD, and hear your listener Moments of the Race.. SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking   JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm   JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704   TWEET us @LateBrakingF1   BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/   EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk   SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Hello, and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead and me, Samuel Sage. That's right. When Beneg decides not to turn up, Harry actually decides to make an appearance. You're welcome. It's lovely to have you, mate. For a while. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We are going to be reviewing the Hungarian Grand Prix today. We're going to give it a go. We're going to give it a good go. Just for two of us. So if you do find it a little bit different, weird, bad, because Ben isn't here. We're trying our best. So I can argue a lot happened in the Grand Prix.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Not a lot. Sure. Some things happened. We certainly had a race. Yes, it happened. Kind of. So, yeah, we're going to be reviewing a few areas of the race. We're going to have a few topics for you.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Right at the back end of the race, of course, from Discord as well. We've got our moments of the race. We're also going to be talking about how Ricardo managing his first weekend. And also a quick word on, should Magnuson be worried after another poor weekend? Because right down the very back end of the Grand Prix. We're going to be discussing Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Can they maximise the weekend? Are you happy with George Russell's performance? We're also going to be looking at the turnaround in fortunes between McLaren, Ferrari and Askin Martin. But we're going to start with Red Bull winning their 12th in a row. And this was recording as the most dominant victory in time form since Hamilton's 2021 Russian Grand Prix win. Is this?
Starting point is 00:01:45 Is it? Is this bigger than Spain this year? Yeah, 35 seconds. What was Spain? It was in the 20s. Oh no. Yeah, quite worrying. So with how the teams have been coming together a little bit recently,
Starting point is 00:01:57 were you surprised you see Red Bull so far up the road this race? I think after yesterday, yes. I think after the entire weekend, because Friday they didn't really look dominant. But I think they might have outplayed everyone else because I think a lot of teams went for, obviously Hungary is difficult to overtake out. And I think a lot of teams, McLaren, Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:02:22 They prioritised the Saturday. Yeah, I think they might have gone for a quality set up, which obviously worked for Hamilton. But in the race, that Red Bull was... Oh, it's quite quick. Speedy boy. Imagine, my dad texts me this. Imagine if Max was just allowed to just go,
Starting point is 00:02:37 not like manage anything. Yeah, yeah. That car would be immense. Yeah. I mean, it already is, but it would be so difficult to deal with. See you later. So, yeah. So in that sense, I think that maybe exaggerated it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 But yeah, he was, as soon as he got passed in turn one, that was it. See you later, lads. Yeah. And what was worrying that from the Combsbox, when we were watching, we're watching the Sky Sports UK show, is that Crockty quite comfortably said that, you know, Constructors' Championship could be done as early as Monsor, and Verstappen could win the drivers as soon as Singapore. And that's with Perez consecutively scoring, you know, second or third.
Starting point is 00:03:14 places, you know, if he keeps missing out on points, it could come earlier. Is it the most dominant car of all time now? They have, of course, got the record for 12 in a row, never been done before. Well, I guess officially, you can say it is. It's, um, the thing is with the comparison to the, the record they beat, which is MP4-4, right? Yeah, MP44. That car was, in terms of actual time, was so far ahead of the rest of the field.
Starting point is 00:03:40 The gap was huge. Like, just any one. So I still think the gap, we still have a, tighter closer field than we do than they did back then. But yes, it's quite a good car. It is quite a good car. Turned up with letter boxes
Starting point is 00:03:54 for side pods on Friday. What didn't look great and then they've won by 35 seconds. Yeah, you heard for Staffen coming with the radio at the end saying, you know, in his post-race interview, we set the car up for the race, as you mentioned, and it was, we had to compromise the Saturday. Really interesting to hear that a car that's that dominant,
Starting point is 00:04:13 they actively said, We'll put qualify off to one side. Because if you can sacrifice qualifying, well, sacrifice and finish P2 by 3,000. Yeah, oh, no. Basically poll anyway. Yeah. Then, yeah, why would you not bother doing that? Because of the race is where you score points.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Exactly. Yeah, you get all your points on the Sunday. Unless it's a spring weekend. So, for staffing, of course, basically led every single moment of the race, apart from a short stink where Hamilton was just your front going into turn one. Yeah, five seconds. Yeah, that was, it was interesting. It was good. Yeah, you came out of Franco Perez. And speaking of Perez, starting in ninth place today, how do you feel about his drive back through the field? You think it was satisfying? It was good. We watched this together. And there was a lot of praise for Perez. And yeah, I think he had a good afternoon. But his praise for him making up for where he should be, like making up to where he should be in the first place. And it was a feisty drive. I think he, given that track, he could have got stuck and he didn't. Again, I think he probably should have had to say. second place. I don't think you managed that bit well at the end, but it was fine. I know he wasn't
Starting point is 00:05:22 out in Q2 this time, but P9, considering where that car is, is still not great. But it was a better afternoon for him, so he's got that at least. But I don't know. It was fine. I understand that, well, clearly they've compromised the car for the race, and they must have done the same for Sergio. And when you're already not great at qualifying, it's already your weaker aspect. I would have maybe ask for a qualifying car. saying, I wouldn't mind being up there, you know, I do kind of need the grid position. But, you know, he, what I was really encouraged by, like you said, it was not the drive back through in the manner that he performed it because he shouldn't be there in the first place.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He shouldn't have to overtake six, seven cars to get back to the position that the car belongs in. But it was the vigour, the aggression, it was well tapered, it was managed. But, like, he got everything on the track done to the limit it needed to be done by. It was cutthroat. It was ruthless. He wasn't stuck behind him on for absolutely ages. is every time there was a sniffing of an overtake, he got the car in the right place, he got the overtake done,
Starting point is 00:06:18 and he was off on his way. That's what I want to see from Sergio. I can understand why that will hopefully, give him the boosting eagles, will go into spa right before the summer break, and actually he can carry that form throwing out for the rest of the season, because he does need to have back-to-back
Starting point is 00:06:31 several good performances, it can't just be a one-off. Yeah, I do wonder what would happen if Fernando Alonzo decided to be a menace, because he was stuck behind him at the start of the race, and then Alonzo was like, I've had the ball of that. Not doing that anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Off he goes, Sergio. And if you're sorry, I'm watching my headphones. Yeah. So I do wonder whether that would have halted his progress if Alonzo decided to keep doing what he was doing there. But it was more encouraging for Checo this weekend. Oh, apart from the crash and epic one.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah, don't do that anymore. Plus don't do that. Stop hitting the walls, Sergio. Have you seen that clip of, it's not English commentary, but they're reading a sign that was in the crowd. It's the shot of the crowd. crowd and it says welcome back Daniel Ricardo and it's literally the next shot.
Starting point is 00:07:16 In the wall. Carras in the wall. It's like something from the office. That is. You can imagine cutting to Ricardo. It's kind of awkwardly looking at the camera and you know. Jim, Jim Ricardo. Jim Ricardo there.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, brilliant. So yeah, all around, a very good weekend for Red Bull. Maxis slapper takes home the absolute maximum points that he can. He got that fastest lap as well, which is pretty mighty. And this is a good turnaround for Sergio. We're very interested in here what you lot all listening think. about Sergio's comeback. Do you think the comeback was worthy?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Do you think that he should have started, you know, back on the top three anyway? Is he just doing what the bare mingham needs to be done? But I guess we should look at our moment of the race, driving up on the race, won't they end? I'll do that later, mate. This is why Ben runs this.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Honestly, I didn't know that Ben wasn't here today until Sam came over and was like, oh, we've got to do the schedule. And I was like, why? Yeah. And then... That's how out of it you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 We're also both hungover. Yeah. Ben, Ben's at a wedding. We got drunk last night. Yeah. Is that the washing machine I can feel vibrating? Oh, yeah. I am bouncing in this seat because of the washing machine.
Starting point is 00:08:19 There's a lot going on. Yeah, literally. Woohoo. Like, I'm an exercise ball. We've got to drive of the day. Ah, okay. What do you think? Who really impressed you today?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Max was pretty good at the F1 again today. Ah, he's all right that, Max. He's all right. Oh, do you know, I'll go for, I'll go for Lando Norris. Yeah. British bias. Oh, lovely bit of British bias. I know he was slightly fortunate with getting pitted first,
Starting point is 00:08:44 but I think after that he was the quicker McLaren today. Yeah. And I just enjoyed his radio messages when he slags everyone off. I can't believe that. Can't believe that. What are they even racing for? Nothing. You're nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You're nothing. If you're outside the top 10, you are nothing. Not like that. McLauron has been outside the top 10 for half the races. Internally annoyed at his race engineer. He just hates him. Please leave me alone. So I'll go for not.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Obviously, this happened is a clear contend. here. I will give a not for Drive of the Day, but honorary shout out to Ricardo, because I think given he was punted at T1... Welcome back, Ricardo. Yeah, after some of that. I thought it was a good recovery drive to get back to at least where he started, given that
Starting point is 00:09:24 car is a tractor. Yeah, no, fair. He did a good job. I'm not saying, yeah, he deserves the Drive of the Day shout, but considering he beats the O'Don, we'll get on this property later, it's a commendable effort for your first weekend, and we'll dig into it a little bit more towards the end of the show. For me, I think you've already mentioned a couple, Norris, Matt,
Starting point is 00:09:40 George Russell I think was actually pretty decent I know that we talk about comebacks Yeah baby I got a great team radio from George there
Starting point is 00:09:51 I know that we don't tend to applaud the comebacks because if you put yourself there in the first place whether it be you or the team you're out of position because you're in one of the best cars it should be easy
Starting point is 00:10:02 but that Mercedes clearly didn't have endless pace I know Hamilton put it on pole but it felt more like that was a Hamilton thing than a car thing Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:08 It isn't like Perez, who is driving around him, now the most dominant car of all time in terms of racing performance. I think George has a really, really strong race, and I'm going to give it to Georgie Russ. Wow. I know. Huge. He impressed me today.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It was impressive. Because I've given where he started and he finished in front of both Ferraris. Right. We'll get on to that again. Oh, Ferrari. Oh, the pain. The pain. Actually quite glad Ben isn't here because I do think he.
Starting point is 00:10:38 he'd have absolutely lost his head. Yeah. Anyway. Hang on the other, on the flip side, on the flip baby and reverse it, you've got the worst driver of the day. Hang on, take your mind? Well, a couple,
Starting point is 00:10:52 Mangerson again was pretty slow. He was really far back, when he? It was quite far back. Because he's going to think nothing bad happened to him. No. But I'll go for Gaguan Yu
Starting point is 00:11:01 because that is hero to zero stuff. He really learnt off Faltry, didn't he? Get a bad start. Get a bad start. Get a bad start. Bowling ball. Hit everyone else. It's like a classic frustration thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. I need to make up immediately the time that I've just lost, so I won't break. Yeah, I mean, that obviously ruined it, ruined his day, but he ruined it for himself with the bad start. I don't know what happened with the bad start, but don't take it out on Daniel Riccardo's rear end.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I mean, I'm sure a lot of people like take a lot of things out on Danga Ricardo's rear end, but preferably. He slapped that booty. Woo! But preferably, not the Alpha Romeo itself. That's not a lot of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Who am I going for on this one? I mean, Joe's obviously a great shout and they're trying to steer clear of it because we're already hanging it as an answer. It's hard not to look at the likes of the Ferrari drivers today. They weren't good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 You know? They didn't do anything exactly wrong. It was just like LeCleur got himself that five second time penalty. He was not on it all day. He was screaming at his engineer's who don't know what's going on. Can be fair. Free the man. Signs was quite slow, actually.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Science was all so slow. The fact that, you know, he sucked on those soft tires and couldn't get the move done. The fact that Lecler still got back past him despite having a nine second pit stop. Yeah, that's painful. Yeah. And I think Lecler ending up beating Sikes
Starting point is 00:12:14 because even with the penalty applied, he was far enough ahead. Yeah. It's not, I might actually have to go Sikes now, I've thought about it. Because even though LeCleur got the penalty, he still beat his team, mate. Yeah, Carlos.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Ferrari. Well, maybe we're going to speak about Ferrari because it's been a bit of a hellhole weekend for them. A couple of weekends, actually. Okay, big brain strat. Big brainstract. I should have played some of these jingles, shouldn't I? Oh, have we got a big brain strut one?
Starting point is 00:12:42 I think we'd do. Do you want to play it? Hang on. Look at your little list. Got me the little list there. Oh, banker too. We're getting there, folks. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:52 We're almost there. Oh, Jesus. Sorry, everyone. We're going to need you to box for wets. What? It's not even raining out. What are you talking about? It feels obvious.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But for a, Ferrari again. It's hard to not include them in this. The award, the award was made for them. I know it was, but it feels like someone should try and take the crown off of them each race, but they just don't help themselves. I think, and I didn't know whether to me, it's my moment, the race, but when a very frustrated Charlotte Clare,
Starting point is 00:13:35 it's definitely seeping through, isn't it? Because he was like it yesterday as well. He's become very annoyed. It's quite annoyed. But when he asked something about the pitting, and then his engineer said, yeah, we'll do that at the end of the race. He's like, no, I want to know when I'm pitting. Yeah, can we talk about the strategy?
Starting point is 00:13:52 What's going on? Yeah, we're on it. We'll discuss it at the end of the race. What do you mean the end of the race? I need to go now. I'm in the car. I mean, that one, I mean, I'll leave it. You might have the same other one I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Well, I was going to, the clear one was my big brain. Oh, the other one I'll go for then is Carlos Sinesel fully being a race engineer. Yeah, just forget the engineer. Just him straight to the pick from. When Perez gets near me, I'm going to box engineer. Good call. Good call.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's your dream. job. Yeah, fat on the back. Well done, mate. Carlos. Well, that. Woo! Good call.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I love that. It's like, turn your steering wheel to Sierra or whatever it is. He's like, that's too early. I'm not doing it now. No. I'll do it later.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Get lost. Too fair, though, Carlos. It's not like you're quick at the same time. Maybe stop focusing on it. I mean, the entire team from within the cockpit. It is getting worse, week on week with Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We'll go into more detail on them later, but it's not, it's not positive. Suppose, We should review our bold predictions. I haven't got an abacus because it's Ben's. Ben's got the abacus, taking it with into the wedding. The Abacai.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So, what we'll do, Ben's first? Ben's was, I guess Ben was a close. Five different constructors in the top five for qualifying. And it was looking handy. Piazori's absolutely mugged in blind. Sent him for a bag of chips. Yeah. It was looking very good.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I think he just needed LeClaire to beat Perez. Yeah. Which he did. Yep. I mean. Piacstrue went even quicker. Hello. Hi there.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's me. Piestri, the laid back man. The man who has no emotion. It's so zeng all the time. Perez Bush you offer, Oscar. Well, I didn't leave me any space. He didn't leave you a lot of room. Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Okay, Oscar. So, if you counted that, that's nil for Ben. But he wasn't far off. What was yours, please, Harry? Mine was. Points for Daniel Ricardo on his return. 13th. Yeah, didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Didn't happen. And then I very much went down the same route as you. But then just slapped another layer. on top. And that other layer turns out to be correct. Was right. But I can't have that. In a classic fashion. Yeah. Sometimes I really should just limit myself. Just do one, mate. But the other one was too simple. Yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:15:57 Per was on the podium, but I'd give you slack. Yeah, I get it. That's why I had to shuck something in. So, let's just work that out. Ben, on the radio here. All right. What does that mean, Ben, for our bold prediction? Not doing a Ben impression. Can't. Terrible. I think, oh, it's nil, nil, nil. Oh, it's nil, so I'm still, nil, no. So I'm still
Starting point is 00:16:17 losing. Can't wait for the Twitter account. If Twitter's still here. Because I might donate you my account by that point. Threads. Threads it is. You can take over my threads account. I've got a lot of followers on there.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. Well, anything else we'd say in that first, first segment? Let me check for schedule. You check the schedule wedge, mate. I mean, I forget to get it to yourself. I am.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'll get the sketch. What else is on there? No, we're good. That's topic that one done. Let's, a break, get a sandwich. All right. And we'll, we'll see you in a minute.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Folks, make it an ice sandwich because this is, this is going to be a tough listen. This is going to be, or buckle up. Sorry, in for the outbreak and we'll catch you straight after. Nice.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, good. Okay, welcome back for topic two of this how are you in Sam Banganza? Samanzah. Samanza. Sam Bangva. It's not a thing. Let's stop saying it.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So we're going to talk about the other teams that are kind of cropped up and down, kind of the second fastest team spot that we've had throughout the season. There's been a lot in that section, like four teams, like arguing how we're being the second fastest car. And it always seemed to leapfrog each other. So Maca, right, another podium, Landon Norris sticks it with another second place.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And Oscar Piastri again looked achingly close to being inside the top three, and they're not finishing fifth place. What are they doing? They're fortunate. It's crazy. They're a great time. Very good weekend for McLaren. I think obviously the obvious podium is
Starting point is 00:18:05 a chili bottle It's going to be tired I get thirsty I got to drink my cold water Man's thirsty But yeah obviously from the outside The podium is yes It's a great result
Starting point is 00:18:16 But I think given where they've got That second podium Hungary and Silverston Oh man It's got down the wrong oh Do you carry on with your point mate Are you dying? It's still dying
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm dying yes sorry carry on Okay Given the difference in Hungary and Silverston, just checking. I'm going to come again. I'm good. This is very good weekend for McLaren. And I think Aston Martin,
Starting point is 00:18:45 Mercedes, Ferrari are all going to go away scratching. I know Mercedes has still had a good race, but still going to go away scratching their head somewhat because where have McLaren't come from? What have they been doing? They were in 1973 about three weeks ago. and how they're here. It's quite a shock how quickly they've risen up to,
Starting point is 00:19:06 well, for the past two weekends, second best team. So very intriguing to see if that carries on into SPAR next week. I guess it, I'd hazard to guess it will because, you know, Spar and Silverston quite high speed. And Austria. And Austria, they were good, weren't they? Yeah, very true. I mean, obviously, Norris only had the upgrades in Austria,
Starting point is 00:19:24 but he was still clinging on comfort from the back of the Ferrari. Exactly. So this, so far, it's very encouraging from McLaren because it looks like it's a car that's good everywhere. Yeah. No, you've made a really good point there, I think, is the diversity of that car.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's the ability to perform not at one set location. Because we've seen that with the likes of what Ascom Martin did, right? On front-loaded tracks, they were not good. I think, yeah, they were good at, yeah. Right, things like Monaco, great, okay. But then they were struggling further and further and further, yeah. So currently, McClaring are hitting all the right points at every track. and they're maximising that Mercedes engine as well
Starting point is 00:20:03 because they don't seem to be properly slow in a straight line at all anymore. It was so slow. The drag has the drag gone? Where has the drag gone? Like where is the rum gone? As far as the Caribbean reference. We drunk it last night.
Starting point is 00:20:14 We drank a lot of it, yes. Yeah, no, it's fantastic. And Norris is relishing the upgrades. You know, this is the Norris that we came to get used to when it was like 2021 and 2020, when that car was really up there fighting with Ferrari, could have been the third or fourth fastest car in the championship, but had just missed out. This is the Norris that we have heaped praise on.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And I think the first half of this season was one of his poorest for an opening few races. And I don't know if there was frustration there, if the car doesn't sit properly with him. You know, it happens. But now the car has turned around. He is really jumped on it and driven it fantastically well the last year races. Do you have any thoughts on Piastri? Of course, he wasn't right behind Norris this time. He did drop back considerably, didn't like the hard time.
Starting point is 00:20:59 ending up finishing behind Perez and Hamilton. I still think it was a really good race from Piastri. I know from the outside it would look like he was P2 and then he's finished P5. I say P2 on lap 1. But, you know, he's still a rookie. And this is only the second race where he's had a competitive car. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think there's still a lot of learning going on there. So yeah, I think Norris is, give Norris the tools and he'll deliver. Yeah. And I think Piasis. he's learning that the hard way. But I still think it's an encouraging weekend given where they were on the grid together, right next to each other.
Starting point is 00:21:37 His opening stint of the race was good. Solid, yeah. And I think it was quicker than Norris in that first part. The gap got bigger. And the rest of the race, I think, is just a bit of a learning experience to hold on to his tyres a bit better because Norris could, so it's in there.
Starting point is 00:21:52 It's just, I think Piash needs to learn. So McLaren, if they can keep up this performance with the car, that line up is looking tidy. Do you think they're on track to have the best line up in the grid at the moment? You think Hamilton, maybe Russell is probably that. Russell was still, but it's, if you want a consistent lineup. It's closer than it was, right?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, I think this is, it's exactly why they got Piastri and ditch Mr. Ricardo. So, very encouraging for Oscar. I'm not worried, not yet. I think, you know, he's had two, like you said, two races in a car that actually performed. and he did such a stellar job in Silverstone. It was really unlucky to not get that podium in the first time of asking. It was only because of the safety car that he missed out on that, of course. And you're right, in the first sting,
Starting point is 00:22:39 I think the gap was maybe two and a half, three seconds by the time they came into pit. So he wasn't holding Norris up in any way. He was really quite competitive. I just think he needs to clearly learn how to manage those different tyre compounds because the hard tie really got to him. He wanted to come in as soon as possible. I'm going to get the tyres off. And he had to be coached a little bit by the racing here to be like,
Starting point is 00:22:57 you know, you've got to hit this, you've got to get to this point. Otherwise, it's not viable. You won't be able to make it to the end competitively. So I'm a little worried that maybe he can't maintain that in certain different conditions. But, you know, time with, we'll learn, he'll grow. If he keeps watching Norris, because Norris is actually, when you think about it, really quite experienced in the car now. He's being here for, what, five seasons now?
Starting point is 00:23:18 This is his fifth year. 2019, this is his first year. Is it 19? 1920, 21, 23. So this is his fifth season now, which is, you know, he's not getting on. That sounds ridiculous. Old man. Oh, man, but he's, you know, he's one of the more experienced drivers,
Starting point is 00:23:30 one of the more consistent drivers on the Grickinghouse. So he'd do well to learn from Norris and look into what he's able to do when driving the car. But fifth place feels, if you could say to me at the start of the weekend, Pliastry will finish fifth, Norris will finish second. Good weekend. Yeah, okay, that's solid. You know, I'm not wowed by it, but I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I didn't, I didn't, they were playing down their weekend before it even started. And I, if I'm honest, I didn't have them, I thought Aston Martin would be back here this weekend. I didn't have Maca on a Macca on the podium. I don't think, did we? No. I had Leclair on the podium. Lolt.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Suss you, mate. You can do anything. That's true. So, yeah, it's a very encouraging. Now, speaking of cars that have been the second fastest car, and we did just bring them up because you thought they were going to be on the podium, what is happening to Ferrari? They came out of Silverstone.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Freddie Vass said that, you know, we're too conservative. the tyres weren't working for us. We need to be more aggressive with what's going on. Stratu was a mess today. The tyres weren't really working for them. LeClau gets a penalty. Sykes is just slow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 What is going on? That car's slow, man. It's just not... It's been the case a lot this year where it just doesn't have the pace in the race. The race pace. The race pace. And it's the same again today.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't think it matters what tie they put on. I know Ben's made the point that they're only better on soft to tires. but I don't think any of them were good for Sighton's had a good start right got right up behind the Clare but he had the soft tyres on so yeah he made up two three places and then he just sat there
Starting point is 00:25:05 yeah so I don't I just don't think for I have the inherent pace to do anything apart from finish where do they finish in the end seventh and eighth
Starting point is 00:25:18 yeah because Russell obviously got the penalty advantage from the Clare so yeah he jumped them right at the end there so yes they were seventh and eight I think ninth and tenth. I think as you,
Starting point is 00:25:27 what, you've given Georgie Rusty Drive of the day, but if you're being overtaken or beaten by a guy that starts in 18th.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah. And you've started, at least Declur started in, like, seventh, in the top 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Fifth? Don't know. In the top 10. You can literally say a number and I'll say that. I don't know. And signs were still in front of him
Starting point is 00:25:51 in 11th. So I think that's, that is the worst part of their week. end for Ferrari because that's just not acceptable. Not when they were directly competing with the likes of Mercedes and asking at the very start of the season and they were regularly beating
Starting point is 00:26:03 them out for points. They looked like they could quite comfortably be the second fastest car and claim that spot in the championship but at this rate they could finish this season fifth. Remember, look like I got a podium once. I do remember that. Tullosin's still struggling to get there. Him and Stroll I think the only two drivers within those top
Starting point is 00:26:19 other than Apiastri I guess who's entered the race. But every single other, every single other driver within those teams has picked up at least one podium. Even Ocon's got a podium. Even Buddy Ockons got one. And we saw what happened to them. That was a disaster start.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Ralphie. Blessing two races in a row. Shocking. Yeah, Beno loved that one. That's all a part of Laplaine. He'll be happy with that. Still looking smug, though. Not sure what about.
Starting point is 00:26:41 We'll find out soon. Ferrari are developing what feels like the wrong way. I thought Freddie Vass were coming and give them the culture shock that they need and will start to build up from the ground up again. Change the foundations. Change the way of thinking. he's a very developmental focused guy.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He's very good at the aeros, the shatty development. He's got a lot of history with success in that region. And I know it's not been long, right? He's only been in the job seven months. And for an F1 team,
Starting point is 00:27:08 it takes time to change it. And maybe he's working behind the scenes to go, look, this car is what it is, 20204 is actually what we're focusing on. Maybe that's the case. And I hope it is because if they actively are putting in all their budget
Starting point is 00:27:21 or their time into this 2023 car, that's really worried. because, you know, they brought Freddie Vassin from outside to change things up. But also wasn't given them what they needed. They needed this difference in leadership and this change. But we're starting to see these strategic errors, the arguments over the radio,
Starting point is 00:27:39 the car is going backwards, the updates that they're bringing, unlike teams like Mercedes and McLaren, are not allowing them to take that step forward, that big leap forward that the other teams are getting. Nothing is looking good for Ferrari right now. There isn't a shining light for them. no and the sense of frustration you get from both drivers now with the radios is that's a real real worry
Starting point is 00:28:02 because they don't want to lose drivers do you don't want to lose their mentality um i just was thinking Ferrari basically sacrificed obviously after 2019 when something happened with their engine it was no longer fast who knows what that was not sure no idea nothing illegal here um they sacrificed 2020 and 2020 and 2021 effectively for these new regs. And so far, they've won a few races last year. Yeah, it felt tantalizingly close for them in 22.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And I think by the end of the season, the Red Bull was just better, you know, comfortably better. But the start of that season, I think they could make a bigger impact had they got the things like the strategy correct more often, right? I think we could have taken it
Starting point is 00:28:45 to a few more races towards the end. Yeah, what is it? Japan ended? Yeah. But I think, yeah, it could maybe have got into the Americas, at least. Yeah, and they broke down a couple of times. Lecler was leading.
Starting point is 00:28:54 in Spain and Asperjan, wasn't he? Yeah. It's just to consider where they are now. They sacrifice so much in those two years for these new rules, and they're basically where they were in those two years. Arguably slipping further back. Yeah. If they finish, it's the fifth fastest constructor at the end of this season.
Starting point is 00:29:11 If that's where they are in the points tally, if McLaren beat them, if Askin beat them, the Salyis beat them, and of course Red Bull, this season has been a utter failure. I would class it as a complete failure. Yeah. But don't fire. Freddie Vass yet. Oh God, God, no. Try and let him put his philosophy into working. I am,
Starting point is 00:29:28 hoping, like I said, that the development is fully focused on 2024 because, boy, do they need it. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. The other scene, again, that have been struggling, that were once the second fastest car. Ascom Martin, ninth and tenth today, not good. Have we talked about them already? Not in full detail. I can mention. Yeah, I was surprised at their pace today. I mean, thought Alonso might have been a bit quicker, but it was quite evident early on that he, because he dropped off the Ferraris at the start fairly quickly.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He kept chatting like he was going to be quicker, didn't he? Two tenths quicker, mate. So I'm going to get there. Seven seconds behind, Fernando. So when are you going to do it? Yeah, so a tough one. As I said, I thought this was going to be a better weekend for them, given what the strengths of that car is.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah. Strengths, strengths are. Well done. God, English. Strengths are. Yeah. help. It's hard like a tire break.
Starting point is 00:30:27 We're trying. Yeah, I think they're going to be leaving, scratching their head somewhat because I know Ben said it at the time, but it's ringing more and more true. Monaco and I guess Canada, but Monaco especially are looking more and more like missed opportunities.
Starting point is 00:30:43 They could have won that. Monaco, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're going to be slightly confused because, yeah, today they were, they were behind Red Bull McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes. Yeah, quite comfortably as well. They were a full pit stop behind the Ferrari guys, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:30:59 George Russell demolished them from 80s on the grid. Also another worry, the same as Ferrari. If we're going to give Ferrari stick for that, it's the same for a fast in the market. Yeah, no competition at all, because they were faster than Mercedes comfortable for the first few races of the season. And I guess the one compliment I could give them at the moment
Starting point is 00:31:14 is Lankstrol is not too far behind Alonkso at the moment. The last few races, he's been, you know, chatting at his hills. Yeah, chatting as it is heels. It's a new expression. I like it. Chatting at his heels. Just like on the floor. Hello, I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Hello, Fernando's heels. I'm going to get you. Chatting at his heels. Your little whippers skimmer. How are you doing today? Heels. Hello, heels. I mean, he's a god.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I would look at his heels. I would shatter his heels too. But you're right. I think he was kind of like hanging around not in the top ten stroll and then sort of pop up in 10th. All of a sudden, he's right behind.
Starting point is 00:31:50 We're not right behind Flando, but he's the next car in line. He dig what he... Arguably, it's the second driver of the team. He dig what he needs to do. He finished the spot behind the lead driver. Yeah. It's not a great positive to take home, but I do feel like it is a positive that they can take home.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. We'll see. I think they probably expected a bit more from the weekend. I mean, they were only, was it, four tenths off in... Alonso was in quality, but... But, I mean, the top ten were only five tenths off. Yeah. If folks, if you didn't know, joint closest top ten of all time...
Starting point is 00:32:20 from that qualifying session on Saturday. So, you know, it does show how on a one-lap pace, the grid is tightening. It is. Qualifying this year, excellent. Immense. Races. Less immense.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah, that was maybe one of the worst races of the season so far. I think that was worse races. Do you think it was the worst race of the season? I'm annoyed about because I really bigged it up. I'm really bigged up hungry. It's also, we've talked about ties so much, and I'm not going to keep going on. But, like, even with two stops.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. A potential free step on the horizon was spoken about, you know. And it still didn't deliver. No, no, it was not great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Aston needs to work out what they're doing. Maybe again, they're committed now to 2024,
Starting point is 00:33:02 and they've realised that the chance that success has come and gone. They, you know, Red Bull have got the wings. So what's the point in pushing? I think they're in for a tough few races now because we've got Spar, Zandvort, Monza. I don't think any of those are going to be great, but I think Singapore is probably going to be the next one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yeah, maybe. I, Sanford could go their way. It's a bit Canada-Monico-esque in terms of flowy, swoopy corners, but, like, very tight. So if they can get in a good grid position on the Saturday, then they might be able to hold off. But you're right, it's not looking too positive for them. And with the rise at McLarenang, the, the Senghis are always just plucking away in there. It's hard to see where their next couple of podium's come from, especially after Fernando came out with that, aggressively fighting talk that they won't be off the, we won't be on the podium again, apparently, off the podium, however it works.
Starting point is 00:33:48 English. It's so hard today Oh God, let's move on Oh God Another break That's the other topic two We're going to We have a nap
Starting point is 00:33:55 A struggle This is a struggle Let's have a nap We've got this And we'll be back Refreshed I'm sure For topic three Where we're going to be talking
Starting point is 00:34:03 What we talk about? You tell me son We're talking about Mercedes We See a bit God Let me rest
Starting point is 00:34:14 Please Welcome back Did you get any sleep? Because we didn't. We didn't actually. Didn't have a nap in the end. No, we're all aboard the Elby struggle bus. And it really is struggling.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Very much the Alping of the weekend. We are. Yes. I think we're the Alping of the podcast. Done by Corle One. We're smug about nothing. What are we smug about? We're terrible at this.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Anyway, Mercedes had quite a difference in fortunes on the Saturday. George Russell only 18th and arguably the team are to blame for this, but he could have got a lapping earlier on in the session and made it work. But then Lewis Hamilton out drove what I think the Mercedes was capable of doing, stuck it on pole position and broke the max for staffing streak.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So how do you think their weekend went from those positions to the race? Do you think they've maximised what was achievable for them? It's clear that car still not there in race pace and like we said maybe they went from more of a cally setup which for George is a bit painful because barely did any. Oof.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I it was slightly disappointing look, clearly the Red Bull is just a rocket ship but you do feel maybe Mercedes if they'd been in the well, if Russell had been up there and also if Hamilton had managed to cling on
Starting point is 00:35:52 to at least P2 not even the leave. What a dud start that was. Yeah, it was a bit of a shame. So I think they'll leave today. Oh God, I think I need to go. Oh God, he's dying folks. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:04 That's us both gone out. Yeah, I think they'll leave. today satisfied but disappointed. I think Hamilton should have been on the podium. I've had a lot of times why I'm being satisfied but disappointed. Shriffing your new Twitter bio.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Satisfied, but disappointed. Okay. Get that on a t-shirt. Yeah, I think Hamilton probably should have been on the podium today and you saw he had the pace at the end of he almost caught Perez. He was close. So I think, yeah, there's probably an element of frustration
Starting point is 00:36:33 in that they didn't maybe at least finish P2 with him. I think you could have had Norris as well, from being honest. You think so? I know the pace is, they struggled a bit, but then they were sort of caught, he was caught behind Piastri as well. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:47 They were struggling with cooling, that sort of thing, which has been an issue before. They really do struggle with cooling, actually. The Mercedes always seems to have a problem. I think they really close off a lot of the air vinks to produce a lot of speed. Open them up.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Hey. Well, I think it gets slower. I'll blow up. Boom. Boom. There goes your race. Mesegis boom. He turned down the engine. No, no.
Starting point is 00:37:07 We're just doing something. something with the temperatures. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Sure. But you're definitely turning down the engine. So, yeah, look, I think great to have someone else on pole position. Yeah, that was cool. And it made for a good Saturday.
Starting point is 00:37:19 It was a great laugh. It made for a very exciting Saturday. Yeah, so commend them on that and commend Hamilton on that. They obviously did mess up slightly with Russell's positioning. And I agree with what you're saying that Russell should have got the lap in. But I think the track was like ramping up so much that even if he had done an amazing that beforehand, he still would have been out. Do you think, though, because they did it with the stabbing in Q2,
Starting point is 00:37:40 a Christian Horger even came on the radio to Sky Sports and discussed it, and they said, we're not bothering with any of this risk. We're sending them out with three or four minutes to go. Get the lap in, mate. They should have done that for Russell, really. Well, both marks, we saw they were on Call-Offant chat, but they were caught up in, yeah, traffic there. So that was a bit of mess.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But, yeah, Hamilton had obviously a great lap in Q3. Got proposition, so I don't think they were necessarily expecting to win today, but I think maybe they could have maximized it slightly more. Yeah, the start from, Hamilton was really disappointing. It felt like initially he got away well. And you thought, okay, Hamilton and Max, go into turn one, wheel to wheel.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Max gets the lead. Oh, okay. Not a problem. Not being in the world. We all expected Red Bull to win this one. And I did say in the midweek preview that this is going to be one of the most dominant races we see from Red Bull. It just fits for them so brilliantly.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And I was proven correct. Maybe I should go with that more often. Yes. Definitely should do that. You know, and if Hamilton comes out of, you know, lap one in second place, then the nature of Hungary means that perhaps he stays ahead of Piastri
Starting point is 00:38:40 for the whole race. You know, Norris is the car that maybe threatens him throughout and maybe he gets third place at the end. Maybe Perez catches them, we don't know. I also think they kept him out in that final stink before his final pit stop, rather.
Starting point is 00:38:53 A couple laps too long. Yeah, I get the offset they were going for, which obviously worked. He got Piastri. He almost got Paris. Maybe they could have... Yeah, two laps earlier. Might have helped.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You know, the tire life, of course, would have maybe dipped. Who knows? but I feel like, you know, yeah, a podium was a fair shout. It wasn't exactly out of reach. In terms of George Russell coming through the comeback, though, we have disgusted for Drive of the Day. And, you know, some great regia messages from George there,
Starting point is 00:39:21 you know, every time he got a move done. Yeah, baby! We actually commented that we hadn't heard much from Russell this race, which was sad, and then he did that. And then also, he goes, I really think we should be stopping right now. Consider boxing. Yeah, fallups to go, George. Clos up and signs immediately.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. overtook them and then nearly got the clear. Got them. Tah, the old one too there. Yeah. Flip your baby and reverse it on my pit radio. So yeah, I think I think Russell was really positive actually. I think Russell really maximised the weekend after qualifying.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I don't think he could have got any more out of that race. I think, what, six points, at six place, eight points. I really do think that that's a, he can walk away happy. That's a really solid performance for him. In a car that is never going to, it's not a dominant car right now. It's not like Perez doing it. Yeah, I agree. People are going to say I'm a Hamilton Hater.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I know I have that reputation, but I'm not. But even he admitted on the radio because he said, sorry. Yeah. He could have done that whole start. Even if not the, obviously the start itself could have been better, but I think just the way he positioned the whole,
Starting point is 00:40:26 he defended heavily from Vestappen, but then he got hung out to dry. Yeah. And then Piastrian Norris got past him. And you can tell he knew that he'd sort of messed that up a bit. Yeah, I don't. You know, it feels harsh, but it do feel like a bit of a rookie start from Lewis. It wasn't, he's had better.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah, I mean, he's had a lot of them. So, yes, he has had better. But this wasn't good. You know, your first time on poll... He didn't read it that well. When was the last time he got a bloody poll petition? 2021. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Brazil? I didn't get out. He was... Abidab? No. No? Before that. Saudi Arabia, 2021?
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah, it's ringing bells. Text. A while ago. Towards the end of 2021, that was the last time we got a poll. And I get, you know, been a while, but you have got 104 of them, mate.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So, you know, you've done this more than anyone else ever. It was really bad. It was really poor. Confirmation from K-Dog. Yeah. It's Jeddah. Thank you, K-Dog.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Producer Kerski coming in clutch, as always. The only sane member of this group. Yeah, so, you know, you think, I'm Lewis Hamilton. I'm the seven-time world champion. I've got over 100 race wings. I've got over 100 pole positions.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I should know how to manage the start of a race. And yeah, I think maybe I'm saying like I'm being a little harsh here, but I was really disappointed. By the end, halfway through, that one, your fourth place, start and fall back even further. I was let down. Also, I was let down because I wanted exciting Grand Prix, and that felt like the way we were going to get it, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, I was just a bit surprised. He's raced for Stappen a lot now. I think it was obvious that once Verstappen was alongside in that run down to turn one, he was always going to break later and hang him out to dry. And that's the thing. I think the move was completely fair. And it was completely fair.
Starting point is 00:42:08 But he just, I was just a bit, I don't know, a bit surprised at Hamilton didn't try something else to cut back. How many times can you get playing at the same game? Yeah. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:42:15 so I guess, yeah, as you say, it comes from a place of disappointment more than anything else that after such an excited quality. And yes, as I say,
Starting point is 00:42:22 Mercedes probably weren't going to win the race, but it would have been interesting to get a bit of headache. Do you think Lewis Hamilton get second in the race? Quite possibly. Yeah. Because I guess maybe
Starting point is 00:42:33 they won't have the cooling issues because of the staff would have run off anyway. He definitely would have been on that. I think at the podium, at least. So the question at the start of this topic was, do you think that Mercedes had maximised the weekend? And you're going with?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Sort of. Good. That is so you. It'd be more you. So yes or no question? And I said sort of. Good. Well, I think they...
Starting point is 00:42:57 Well, I guess in that case, no. So I think Russell did. I don't think Hamilton did. I think Hamilton maximized Saturday. Russell maximized Sunday. Yeah, so together, they got half of it. So that's where my sort of comes from. Half. Half. Half. Max.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Oh, bloody ate this show sometimes. My eyes are so heavy. I know it sounds ridiculous. It sounds going to fall asleep. I'm so tired. I'm absolutely shattered. All right, well, let's hear your thoughts on my say is, folks. Discord link is in the description.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I'm going to have you in there. I'm loads of new join this recently. It's really, really good. This isn't the end of this show, I'm just saying, you know, get in there and a house. Is it not? No. Oh, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:43:33 We've got topic four yet to go. I'm not even doing our break for that one. You're just going to roll into it. You're crazy. I'm just teasing. You're not doing that break. We give the dollar. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:43 So we'll see you after this. We're going to be talking Ricardo and KMAG, who have had two kind of juxtaposing weekends. Nice. Sing a minute. Bye. We're back slowly losing our minds. It's quite hot in here.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's very warm. It's very, very hot. Just to go the fan. Very hot. And we're very, very tired. And we're going to be talking about someone who also might be very very tight because it was their first race back in, you know, half a season or so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Might be feeling it. Daniel Ricardo, he got absolutely punting on the first lap by Joe Guangyu. Amazing, he's carding obliterate because the two Alps around him did. I'll be quite gutting if he retired lap one, turn one of the race. But how do you feel it went for him as a race? I think the entire weekend has been very good for Daniel Ricardo. Yeah, as I said, I mentioned in my Drive of the Day pick. obviously he wasn't, but, but I think given,
Starting point is 00:44:58 he obviously started in a pretty good place. It's the first time that Alphitari have not been out in Q3 since Monaco, in they said. Out in, yeah, sorry, Q1. So that was impressive in itself. And then the fact that he got punted and was last, but I was like, oh no. He was running around in 18th for like quite a long time.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I don't understand what was going on with some of the strategies. I kept blowing my mind how like Yuki was in 11th. and then he was last and the Ricardo was something in 13 I'm thinking how are you still here? So, and that good, they had like a strategy of he pitted did 10 laps on the hards.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. And then pitted again for mediums. And then he did probably on the longest last stints on the medium tires. And I think that in itself is fairly impressive because he jumped everyone. But he wasn't, I thought, I said this deal,
Starting point is 00:45:43 I thought he was going to be under pressure towards the end. No one. No, not even close. And I think he was sort of catching Bottas. So, I think he did. exactly what he needed to do this weekend.
Starting point is 00:45:56 And I actually think it was quite impressive. And maybe that's an experience coming in there for Ricardo to not let his head drop and, you know, carry on because I know it was only 13th, but that car's rubbish. Well, that's the thing. You say only 13th, but he's in the worst car on the grid. And he got punted on the first lap. He's off the track facing the wrong way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And he's managed to beat his teammate by three spots. So forget qualifying. It doesn't matter that he started in front of him because by the first corner, he's at the back of the grid anyway. Yeah. He's managed to out drive a lot of, you know, key drivers who are on the grid around him. You know, he's beat both the Williams comfortably.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Where did Holgerberg finish? I've forgotten. I think it was behind 14th. There you go. So he's beat Holgerberg who started well in front of him as well. But that's the house, man. Yeah, I know. But, hey, you know, he was, again,
Starting point is 00:46:42 he's off the track after being rear-ended by an Alfa Romeo, you know. Right behind Bottas, as you mentioned. He was catching Albon as well. You know, it was good, really solid. And I think he will walk away from that And they'll go, okay, 13th, good result. But when you break it down how he actually got to 13th place, that's what's so much more impressive from him.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think you're right, though, I think race experience came into this for him. I think he took a hold of the strategy. Didn't like the hard tyres. Quite publicly said, not like any of these tires. Go off them, made the mediums work for himself. Yeah, it kind of flew under the radar, as you say, because a lot of weird strategies going on. but I think that that last stint from him was very, very good.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Very solid. Very solid. So, so far, Danny Rick, very good weekend. The right call to put him in over DeVries? At the moment. Hard to say after one weekend, but it's gone well, right? It's gone well. This is being the best drive from that seat all season.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yes. I don't think DeVries has finished higher than, maybe in. DeVries get any points? No. No. You're going, no. Right, and then kind of juxtaposing that very good weekend was quite a bad weekend was Kevin Magnuson.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So Nico Hocko again in Q3 for qualifying. It loves a bit of quality as Nico. Fliesang in the radio earlier, just how good his qualifying performances have been this season. Give Nico Hockenberg a quick race guard. Please. Give him the Ashton. He was only in it three seasons ago. Yeah, he's dunking on K-Mag in quality at the moment.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And that's, that's going to be a bit of a worry for, for old Kevin. And where did Kevin start? Back row of the grid. He was 19th. He might have been 17th. I don't know. I thought that was Yuki. And then,
Starting point is 00:48:32 uh, maybe it was. Russell was 18th. Yeah, anyway. Anyway, he was, yeah, in that back section, he was nowhere in E. The entire race. And I know the horse is not good on its race pace. It's got to be worrying, though.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's got to be worrying in comparison to his team, mate. Yeah, it's not, it's not, um, it's not great. And I know he's not crashing like Mick Schumacher was last year, but it's sort of the... What's the matter? What's the point?
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. But it is the whole combative mangan. If they're going to be consistent with that, you'd have to say, maybe they'll start asking questions about mangson, but it's harsh, so probably won't. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:06 so it's not been a good year so far for old KMAG. Contract's up at the end of the season. Yeah. You think currently getting it renewed? I mean, it's harsh again, probably, but... Probably. Probably. Probably.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I mean, if it's any other team, no. No. But it's any other team, they wouldn't be doing this anyway. So, yeah, I think Holkenberg's proving his talents. Yeah, unexpectedly so. I think, I think myself included, I didn't write Holgerberg off, but just kind of didn't see the point. Why take a risk on this driver that's not really regularly bringing a race seat for quite a few seasons now,
Starting point is 00:49:40 who probably doesn't have the racing eggs that you expect him to have anymore, go for someone that's a bit of a risk that's a bit younger or something like that, give him a chance, but it's K-Mag that should be out the door currently. He's not performing. I know he's got a lovely little newborn and he's probably a bit knacker bless him and he's, you know, the life of a...
Starting point is 00:49:56 Sleepy. Yeah, he's got a, yeah, it's... I mean, I'm not experienced with young babies, I must admit, don't have one of my own. But I imagine it's pretty gnecoring. I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From babies. All right. When are you talking to them? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:12 This is... Oh, God. Yeah, so he's... He's got to pick it up, though. After the summer break, he's really got to start putting in a shift. Because if he doesn't have a good second half of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out on his, on his bum. Like I say, we know the Huss just can't do a race. So bad.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And obviously, Holkenberg always ends up falling down from where he qualifies. But if the car can qualify well, then Manxon needs to do that as well. Yeah, if Holcomburg's doing it, Kameg should be capable of doing it. At least Holcomb is giving it a chance to try and get in the top 10. We always say, don't we? Like, you know, if your driver is one place, and the other drivers should be maybe one to two places behind. That's a fair, you've done all right.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know, that's okay. You should not be eight to nine places down on a regular basis. It's not like this is happening one every ten races. It is almost every Grand Prix at the moment. Yeah. So yeah, pick it up. Pick up. Pick up.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Okay, so we're going to move on now to our moments of the race, which is for everyone's sake, thank God the final topic. We're almost there, folks. Thank you for struggling for winners. We appreciate it. Harry, we're going to go to you first. before we go to our lovely listeners, what was your moment of the race?
Starting point is 00:51:22 It wasn't a zinger, was it? It wasn't, no, it's not going to go down as a greatest of all time, race. But I'll go for GP, Max just happens, engineer, team engineer, coming over the radio, just saying, everything okay.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You're right, just checking in. Because I feel like that was to us as well. Yeah, are you okay? Is everyone watching? Because I know this is boring. I'm sorry, really good. It's like your mum, when she comes around the corner of your room. Everything all right, darling, you're feeling.
Starting point is 00:51:46 All right, are you? You're like, oh, thanks, ma'am. Just checking that Max is still awake. Yeah, literally cruise control. Yeah. So I'll go for that because it feels appropriate. I'd like to, when Max is that far ahead, I'd like to challenge him to try and do a lap with his eyes closed.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Not like it has to be the fastest lap, but can he just make it round? Because I think he'd probably good. I bet you know that track well enough, but you could probably work out the timing easily enough to do it. That's a good idea. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Next time, Matt's true. When you get plus 30 ahead, you have to do a lap with your eyes closed. That's the new F1. rules. What am I saying about my moment of the race? It was hard to pick, wasn't it? Let's all be real.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's not fun. The race wasn't great. The fight between Perez and Piastri was good. You know, it was a squeeze, but, you know, we kind of agreed that it was on the limit, but the right side of that limit. Enjoyed that. I think I might actually just go for Ferrari's team radios today. Yeah, it's been being solid stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I also just enjoy, as we've already mentioned, George Russell, going, yeah, baby. quite enjoyed that Landa Norris just hating on everything I can't believe he said they were racing for nothing it's so disrespectful he used there like four races ago you were in like 13th place what do you mean racing for nothing
Starting point is 00:53:02 get out of the way you're racing for nothing you waste of my space get out of the way anyway that's that's it from us let's hear from the lovely discodilus Harry who do we have first up we have real dad and James from
Starting point is 00:53:18 Budapest. Lovely. This is Real Dad and James live and direct from the Hungarian Grand Prix here in the Grandstand with our moment of the race. Our moment of the race
Starting point is 00:53:29 is Joe going bowling. I mean, it was terrible to Gas leave. And two minutes of racing. I mean like... I'm probably teaching. From Hungary, been a great weekend
Starting point is 00:53:56 apart from the catering. Thank you guys. Bye. Apart from the... I dig at the catering there from Real Dad. Limey. What's wrong with the catererick? Real dad. Real food reviews. They can move on to doing food reviews. I would love their, honestly, best QO and F1.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah. Not ass, that's for sure. Is this, is this in first time? This is a firsty. Sensational, mate. Here we go. Shall I introduce it? Shall I introduce themselves? Perfect. It's a big ham in my moment of the race is Lando Norris, absolutely winging on team radio, complaining all the time. But I love him. Baby Lando. Thank you, a big ham. A big ham. It's a great name.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Great name. Next is All Good Always from a plane. Highly breaking. Hopefully you can hear me, but I'm because I'm on the plane and I'm going to be flying off soon. But my moment of the race has got to be the Ferrari radio messages. I mean, it's hilarious. Anyway, thank you guys for the comments on the last podcast. It was so nice and all.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I hope that I can provide more wonderful lights and comments for the rest of the podcast. Let me guys. Love the podcast. What do we say? You didn't say anything, man. You weren't there. Classic you. Classic you, that is.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You're just saying anything. I was hearing you because I make a microphone in front of your mouth. I said she was always very lovely and brought very posy vibes. Pauzy vibes. I agree. The next up. Another first time. Me, the one car guy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Hey, one of guys. late breaking. I'm a long time listening but first time submitter. My moment of the race today was when Joe tried to do
Starting point is 00:55:35 his best and baltatory bontas in Hungary impersonation and he tried to bowl with the F1 cars but he only took out two Alpines
Starting point is 00:55:44 and tried to take out that Ricardo that's about it after that I kind of fell asleep to the whole race so keep on doing you guys
Starting point is 00:55:52 see you I wish I could fall in asleep I could do with a lot I'm quite tired. All right. We'll get you open, so.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I've got to go home. Oh, Christ. Yeah. You're not staying here. All right. Next up is Callie, who may or may not be happy about hanging Ricardo. Harry, Sam. Hello.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Ben. He's not here. He's not yet. What's going out, guys? Another race to be proud of. Hungary does not disappoint. Greatest race of the season so far. You know why?
Starting point is 00:56:25 You know why? because Daniel Ricardo is back, baby. Lose it. Moment of the race. Danny Ricardo being back, beating Yuki Sonoda in his first race back, man. What a day. What a day.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Me and my girlfriend are on our way to the aquarium right now. I was watching the race on the way down. I thought my tattoo cursed this man, but he's back, baby. Let's go. I'd be swimming with the fishes tonight. He will be. Cheers, Callie.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Oh, no. I just didn't see that message. Right. Next up is everyone's second favorite, Hazer. Right, boys, my mum at the race for the Hungarian Grand Prix. Well, there's so many you pick from. It could have been the DRS overtake into term one, or who could forget, the DRS overtake into term one.
Starting point is 00:57:17 But all things considered, I'm going to go with the DRS overtake into term one. Cheers, boys. Fantastic. A great choice. It's a mission there from Hazer. That is the kind of banter we do. I love it. It's really on our level.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Next up is who have we got here? Oh God. Right, here we go. Yizzy Pavlinka. Great name. Sounds like a tennis player. Hello. I'm going to probably say GP,
Starting point is 00:57:42 asking Max if he was okay. And he just said, I'm all good. He's too chill. It's insane. He's very chill. Yeah, I'm fine, mate. I love it. How are you?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Another first time from Astro. Many. Out of space submissions. Yep. What's going on, guys? Sam here. Long-time listener. First time submitter. My moment of the race was definitely
Starting point is 00:58:03 Lewis Hamilton getting absolutely cooked off the line. I'm Bill Lewis Hamilton fan. Went crazy for a poll position yesterday and was disappointed. Thanks, guys. Man, it's so sad. Roast's own favorite driver.
Starting point is 00:58:17 So, so disappointing in life. Do you want to do this one live? Steph can't drive. You submit it this whilst we've been recording. So we can take a real risk. If this is bad, it's all on you. This is getting edited out, isn't it? Here we go. Steph can't drive.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Please, please be good. So not necessarily a moment of the race, but the highlight for me was watching the F1 Junior's broadcast of the Grand Prix. Oh, yeah. It was so much fun. The kids were having an absolute blast. The graphics were really cute and super engaging.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Harry Benjamin did a great job of explaining everything and getting the young commentators involved. It was so great to see young and diverse talent leading the commentary. I hope they do more of them. It was so fun. Hulsome, that was. Housom?
Starting point is 00:59:03 Good quality. Wow. Steph, you've not let us down there. Cheers, Steph. It might not have got to drive, but you can submit. Do more. Change your name to that.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I enjoyed that. Yeah. I'd like to see more images from the youngsters, the junior show. Yeah, I've seen a few. I've seen a couple, but I'd like to see some more clips
Starting point is 00:59:20 because it's very hard when you've got to do the show of this podcast to keep an eye on the Kigs one. Like this one. They're all flying. Why? What? I don't know why, but I...
Starting point is 00:59:30 Lap 22, they put all the F-1 cars as balloons. That's something I would do for fun. It's like we've got control of the broadcast. I know what we're doing X-Lap. Put them all on balloons. I also, it says, for Stappan, leader, exclamation mark. I like that. He is the leader.
Starting point is 00:59:47 We're just discussing pictures you can't see. Yeah, sorry, but you can look it up. It looks like a lot of fun. Maybe we'll watch it like that. next time. I would like to put all the drivers in balloons on that 22. Oh, it's 59 minutes. We've bloody made it. We've got to an hour. Good Lord. I can't believe we've made it through. I mean, I don't mind doing
Starting point is 01:00:04 them just you and me, obviously, when many boys are not here. I think most of the time it would be fine. The bloody washing machine is going, I am vibrating. But because we're both so tired, this has been a bit of a struggle today. It's been a lot. So, for all of those that have stuck with it, we do really appreciate you. thank you and please stick around because the next episode is episode 300 300
Starting point is 01:00:28 which is mad we've got some big stuff going on for 300 what are you doing? You'll find out and you'll find out what I'm doing too so you're going to come on listening to episode 300 we've known about this for a long time we've still not really planned anything
Starting point is 01:00:49 how many times have we sat down then go, what should we do for 300? Yeah. And they never come up with a decision. Anyway, there'll be some bits on there. But it's also the SPAR. Beldon GP. Spar preview.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. Bodden GP preview. That's Mick Week. Harry will be there for it. As far as I'm away, yes. Ben will be there for it. As far as we're aware, yes. I will be there for it.
Starting point is 01:01:09 As far as you are aware, yes. And to me, that makes three. Three! No. Come on, right. Let's go. Right. Discourse in the description.
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Starting point is 01:01:25 and a birthday shout out which we're going to be doing on the 300th episode. We are. We are doing it. Don't you worry, I will remember. Also,
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Starting point is 01:01:40 at the moment goes up in video format as well. A vlog? You might have already mentioned this. Yeah, we've done our winner's fan zone vlog. We, Kirsty, did a great job.
Starting point is 01:01:49 We've also learned many microphones. portable microphone. Oh, yeah. We've got these ones, we need ones being out, yeah, because our audio was not good. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Sorry if we asked you for a bold prediction at that event, but we never used that. It was just unusable. We're really bad at it. It's just lots of noise and me still with a cardboard thing
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