The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Mexican GP Review

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

The LB boys review the Mexican GP that saw Perez retire from his home race after a first corner collision while Verstappen secured another dominant win. They discuss all the action and as well as the state of the battle for P2, Ferrari's strategy, and Alpha Tauri's results. As always, bold predictions are reviewed (spoiler alert: epic fail) and drivers of the day and moments of the race are shared.. FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League BUY our Merch EMAIL us at [e-mail]   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. And a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Eid, Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking, today reviewing the Mexican Grand Prix, won by Max Verstappen, joined on the podium by Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclair. a red flag mid-race, spice things up a little bit. Sam, it was going down one direction of not very exciting. I think it was brought back a bit though. Yeah, I think the red flag was needed.

Thank you, Kevin Magnuson. Thank you to Haas for a suspension failure. We appreciate your service in producing what ending up being a quite spicy race. We had some good moments towards the end. It was spicy. I think a lot of drivers were kept looking better than maybe they should have done come the end of that Grand Prix, due to the fact that the Red Fly brought it all back together. And, hey, there's nothing like a little mid-race restart to keep you all on your toes.

I quite enjoyed it. I'm glad that it happened. Sorry, Kevin, that you had a bad time. I'm glad you're okay. But for the sake of the race, it was worth it. I can't decide whether it made it better or worse. I can't decide whether you make this podcast better or worse. I'm sure many people feel the same.

But it's, I'm, I'm on, shockingly. on the fence about it. But, you know, enjoyable race, I would say. 6 out of 10. That's all we were here for. Harry's race rating. Keep breaking late. See you later.

Yeah, cheers. Cheers, what's actually coming up on today's episode? Moment of the race, much later on in the episode. Lando Norris's recovery got all the way back up into the top five. Our thoughts on how he went. We have to review our bold predictions. Looking forward to that.

Alpha Tauri, they had a good day with Daniel Ricardo in the top 10. our thoughts on his performance, Ferrari finishing third and fourth. But let's kick off out front. Max Verstappen won the race. He won it by a long way. There isn't too much to say on that one. So let's move a little bit further back. Lewis Hamilton managed to claim second place and fastest lap made good progress from his qualifying position in sixth. Nineteen points going his way. Of course, Sergio Perez with his first lap retirement scoring nothing. So we'll get onto the term one incident in a moment, just focusing first on that battle for P2 in the championship, Hamilton versus Perez. Sam, do you think that it is now very much alive going into the next

three races? Absolutely godsend for Lewis Hamilton, right? He had that fantastic performance in Oskin, Texas, gets the disqualification due to the floor rubbing too much running the plank down. And you think we all wrote it off, actually, in the review that we spoke about, we all said that's basically game over for second place in the championship. The gaps seem too big, uh, without that case it was four races to go. Sergio Perez mucks up turn one, which we get onto properly, but that gives away slightly what I think about the situation.

Lewis Hamilton delivers a brilliant second place, a fast-a-slap, 90 points in the bag, 20 points between the mid-sotal. If there's one more floundering performance from Sergio Perez, and let's not be too unrealistic here, a floundering performance is highly likely. He's not exactly set the world

when it comes to consistency this season, then a second place is more than possible. I think it's still a challenge, it's still an uphill battle, but with races such as Las Vegas about to come through, I really do think that it's a bit of an unknown game, and it's kind of all or nothing, and you never really know what someone like Lewis Hamilton is able to do in an unknown circumstance, who regularly performs as well when we come to new tracks over Sergio Perez, who is going to take another knock to the chin here, he's going to struggle with that motivation.

You saw Christian Horner having a word in his ear after we got out of the car. We're not sure what was said there, of course. You've got to be thinking the pressure's on. Now we're three races to go. want that one to in the championship. I imagine that Perez is a little bit nervous, he's getting a little bit shaky, and I think that Lewis Hamilton is pretty rinks in the idea.

I think, you heard him on the radio after the race. You heard him go, that felt good, guys. That was a great race. We're moving up. I feel strong. I feel promising their trajectories. You know, Hamilton's on that constant uphill. Perez is very much on the plateau going down.

They've crossed over now, and I think it's full charge of head for Lewis Hamilton. It's exactly what he needed. If he kept that Oscar performance, I think the gap would now be about 10 points in it with three races to go. So it really is looking possible that Hamilton could jump into second, which after the first maybe seven or eight races of this season, you never will put Hamilton back in second.

Maybe Alonso, maybe one of the Ferraris on a good day. But Perez, surely, but never Hamilton or a Mercedes. So they've done a great job of bringing this season around. For reference, 20 points separate Hamilton and Perez now. So if that second place had stood in Austin, just two points would be separating those two drivers. Well, Perez not getting points. If Hamilton maintained his second place in...

Yeah, but Perez would have got less points. Okay, I saw what you... Oh, true. Yeah. Okay. Right. I'm with you now. Yeah. I'm just looking at Hamilton's 18 points in that. God, math man.

Point being, it would be very close if that was still still in place. Yeah. Given that, Harry, we've got three races to go. We do have a sprint race coming up next at Sao Paulo. still on the cards? I mean, if you're going to put, I'm not a betting man, but if you're going to put money on

what are the drivers here, I might go for the seven time world champion in this one. Or the driver who is in really bad form at the moment. Which one or what I go for? They're still a chance easily. I mean, it's going to take a bit of, do you know,

it wouldn't take a huge amount of misfortune for Perez or, you know, bad luck, etc. for Hamilton to do it. I think Hamilton could even do it on just pure performances alone at beating Perez. Yeah. So it's, it's quite crazy. I remember earlier in the year in a press conference,

they asked Fernando Alonzo, who at the time was quite close to Perez and second, is second achievable. And he said, yeah, little did I know. He wasn't talking about himself. He was talking about Lewis Hamilton. Those two are a team. Still knew his car was going to be the slowest car on the grid. come this point of the year. He was talking about Hamilton all along. He knew. He knew.

But even then, when he said it, it sounded ridiculous to say. But now we're here. And it is an achievable, it's an achievable thing for Hamilton, which is just is a bizarre thing. But also speaks to how well generally, or overall this year, Hamilton's been driving a couple of blips after the summer break. But yeah, USA and again today, he's been he did the most he could. He got the best result out of that car. It wasn't catching Vestappen, but he was on his own, P2.

He wasn't anywhere near anyone else. So, yeah, I think it's definitely achievable. And as you say, with a sprint coming up in Brazil, which delivers a good sprint because Brazil's good and we won't go into sprint races, but it could be chaos there. And Hamilton could well snatch those points he needs. Yeah, I was almost prepared to say,

before this Grand Prix that the battle for second was over and it was going to take something like the result we had today to bring it back into contention. And I keep saying that Sergio Perez doesn't need to deliver a great deal to see this out. Before today, it's a case of, okay, if he just finishes fifth place consistently the rest of this year, that will probably be enough. But I keep saying he just needs to do something and he doesn't do it. Particularly the last four or five races have been a real struggle for him. And the biggest source of frustration outside of it being in front of his home crowd is that qualifying pace, he was on it. He wasn't that far behind Max Verstappen in terms of qualifying pace. We've seen multiple Grand Prix this year where the gap between those two drivers

has been half a second, if not more. Here, it was what, a tenth and a half between Vastappen and Perez? It was, there wasn't much in it. So to not be able to convert that must be frustrating. Again, He started in fifth place with a chance to go into the lead into the first corner. How often, even at Mexico, does that happen? Whenever someone starts from third place on the grid or fourth place on the grid and manages to get first, that is a real rarity in Formula One. He made such an epic start. And I appreciate his mindset of wanting to go for the lead and not being able to cope if he hadn't gone for it.

And we'll get into the crash in the moment. but it just has to be a huge source of frustration for him. And yes, I do think this battle is now well and truly on. Lewis Hamilton driving the way he is. Sergio Perez driving the way he is. 20 points that can go away very, very quickly. That turned one incident, Sam. What did you make of it?

Three into one certainly did not go. Yeah, I mean, I want a credit is getaway to start with because as you just alluded to, Ben, the idea of a car going from fifth to potentially first, one straight into a corner, let alone going from, you know, third or fourth, is we haven't seen a start, I would argue as good as that until the crash, maybe since the long-so Spain, 2012, I'm thinking maybe, 2011, where he started, what, sixth or seventh, and he was alongside first place by turn one. And I think that Perez then, he had absolutely the world in his hand.

And I imagine the entirety of Mexico were holding their breath. And the famous expression came to mind, as he hit the brakes, you can't win a race in turn one, but you can most definitely lose it. And with that car, the ability, we saw it with the DRS available when Max was coming back

through the field with fresh tires, they had the car to win that race. They had the car to be one too. And he might not have gone on to wing had he not made he ever taking that turn one on lap one, but second place was more than definitely available. It meant with a lockdown second place in the championship for him. Maybe Max was a big kind.

I don't go and pull me out of the way. It's Max for Staff. but you never go, there is a chance. Have you met him? No, not personally, actually, but, you know, I've got previous. And then you just, you don't leave the room available. All of the time you leave the space, and when you leave the space, you have a good race.

He did not leave the space. Poor Charlotte Club became an absolute filling of the Red Bull sandwich. And, wow, I'm down, thank you, man. That's two episodes in a row. I've said that. He gets absolutely clattered. The sidepog ripped open like Noble's business. You couldn't carry on from that.

You can see the pain on his face when he was sat in that pit box hoping to get the car back out. It was almost in tears. You feel sorry for him. You saw the impact it had with the crowd and the amount of people that left within halfway through the race. You're not really seen much like that. It shows how much of an impact. One driver can have on one demographic. It was huge the impact he's got here.

I am gutted because if it backfires and he never gets a chance to even be near the front again, and this is his last ever attempt at the Mexican Grand Prix, is absolutely throwing it away and it's entirely his fault. No one else could have done anything to get out of the way more. So he had so much space on the outside. He could have sat in third place

for a few corners and got the position on the next lap. He rushed it. It was an amici's game. He threw it away and he is entirely to blame for this one. It's a real, real shame. What are your thoughts on it, Harry?

Yeah, like Sam said, I admire the commit like this is Checo. He's going all out. It's his home Grand Prix. and you've watched that start, as you say, mega start, and then he picks up that toe, and then he's on the outside, and he must be thinking, oh, my sweet lord, I'm going to be leading my home Grand Prix in a second here,

and he was for about 0.8 seconds. But yeah, it was all on him, and it's tricky, because Perez is a person under pressure, a man under pressure at the moment, and I fully understand why he went for it as aggressively as he, as he did, but he doesn't need to win to keep his seat. He could have easily been P2 this race, and that would have been more than enough to satisfy Red Bull. And he's gone for broke here and got broke.

He doesn't want anything. That's a terrible quote. Please don't use that. I know how that feels, though. It's gone for broke and got broke. But it's, yeah, it's just, and as you say, Sam, I'd like, I just, You know, we've given our criticism of Paris and also compliments when he's done well.

But today I just felt sorry for him. Like, you could tell like he knew he's mucked this up, like, so badly. And it's the, it's the whole context of where he is, the pressure of his home race. And it just makes it whole. And Daniel Riccada being a little menace and pretending he's back in 2020 again, apparently. Timing. I mean, talk about timing. timing.

It just, I mean that it was all from yesterday as well with the qualifying with Ricardo. But yeah, he will, I really hope this isn't the, you know, turning point and we don't see Perez in F1 because of this. But I'm more for his sake because he'll just look at that, back of that turn one and go, why don't I do that? Why on earth did I go for it? So tough one. It was on him. And as you said, there wasn't anywhere of Vastappen. Lecler could go.

By the way, don't boo Lecler. He literally did nothing wrong there, so stop that. Stop it. Stop it. It was all on Peres on this one. And yeah, like I say, I think he'll look back at it. And they said in the commentary, you know, well, onto Lecler for not,

what on to Perez for not, you know, pointing the finger. I think he knew. I think he wasn't pointing the finger because he knew it was his fault. So, yeah, it's going to hurt. And there's not a lot of time now to, you know, dust himself off and, pick himself back up again because Brazil is quite literally in six days time.

To your point is one thing to have an incident where, I don't know, P7 is on the cards or P8 is on the cards. P2 was definitely achievable here for Sergio Perez, which is in some respects credit to him in that I think he had the pure pace to get to that point if he'd been able to let the race unfold without that first lap incident happening. And we've constantly said, you know, that one, two, Red Bull, regardless of which way around it is, is what they are striving for. But it's something that Perez has really struggled to achieve since Miami, pretty much. And we always refer back to Miami as sort of the turning point of there wasn't much to choose between Vastappan and Perez's first five races of the year. Miami was the turning point.

If we're looking at the 14 Grand Prix since Miami, Perez has been second twice. Yeah, it's not been a regular occurrence that he has been directly behind Vostepen. in these races. So to have that opportunity present itself at his home Grand Prix as well, that is, it's a real kick in the teeth. The incident itself, I don't have too much to add because I agree with you both in that I think even if Lecler in this position, I don't think he ever would have done this, if LeCler had seen both Red Bulls either side of him gone, ah, this ain't going going to work. And he had backed out, I still think there would have been contact between Leclair and Perez. it would have been more front of Lecler's car to Perez's back rather than his side,

but I still think there's contact happening even if Leclerc makes the decision to back out a little bit later on. The reality is we saw on a number of occasions two cars struggled to go through that corner side by side. When you put one more in there, that struggle's only going to increase. I think that was, he turned in too early for that move. and he's ultimately paid the price. And as mentioned, it's a shame

because there was a definite result on the cards for him. Before we go to our first break, I think we've got a bit of time to review some bold predictions. No, let's move on. Have it a new sandwich. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on. Let's not do this. As already referenced on social media, I did say in the preview for this Grand Prix that it could not get any worse for us because our predictions for the US.

You said physically it couldn't get any worse. Physically could not get worse. And I was really confident in saying that. And I was really wrong as well. Good Lord. Where do we even start? I would start with the worst. But I don't know who's was the worst.

Let's start with Harry's because his ended first at least. Harry predicted what the Sergio Perez would win the Grand Prix. I win, mate. Yeah, easy days. And as I said, for 0.8 seconds. was looking real tasty that prediction, and then it wasn't. Go for broke, get broke.

Indeed. Sam saw Harry's one retirement and raised him two because he said that Aster Martin would be in the top six. If you'd said both Aston Martins to finish, you'd have been wrong. If you said one Aster Martin to finish,

you'd be wrong. What I actually meant was top six retirements. I just thought, you know, I thought, I can't get short, we've got a lack of time, I thought that was clear. So I'd like my points, please.

They were that bad. I don't think I'd give them that. No, yeah, asking, you suck. And now I've lost. So pain. Sam can still draw. Somehow, mine was the least wrong, and it was still appalling. Mine was that Esteban Ockon was going to finish in the top four.

And I was looking, because the first half of the race was a real dire experience. from a knock-on perspective. And I looked up after the red flag and things were going a little bit better. And then I realized he was 11th and still seven positions away from my prediction. It's like, ah, yeah, it's probably not happening. Yeah, he was slow.

Al-Pin was slow. But he finished the race. So I'm going to take this as a win. To be fair, I was almost tempted to give you the point because Esteban Okun said one of the funniest radio messages I've ever heard in my life, which is tell, so, tell us, I'm going to send it. and then 15 laps later

he finally gets past him. Good work, Esteban. Set a time limit. You're hard. You're hard, aren't you? Estaban, yeah. Did you see Haas's response on social media? And they should say,

ooh. Ooh. Good one, house. That's the best thing you've done on season. Yeah. Oh, man. So good news is, really good news, we cannot physically do worse

for the Brazilian Grand Prix. It's not possible. Surely not. Please, no. I mean, Ben, you could also have also had a D&F and then we'd all be terrible. That is the only step it gets worse from. Tune for Brazil.

It's a small insight, folks. I'd basically made that video before the race thinking, ah, we won't need this. And then as the race went on, I was like, oh, God, better use this one. If you don't all get his folks, check our social.

media, there's a rather ironic and hypocritical reel of us, definitely looking very confident in our predictions, and then the results take place. Do not make. If you have your abacuses out, by the way, you don't need to move them at all because that was three wrong predictions. But Sam is now in a lot of trouble, because without getting three in a row to end the year,

three, three, it's going to be a loss. Well, folks, I've accepted it. Obviously, that means that, well, if I don't draw, which would be miraculous. It might be bigger than Lewis Hamilton and an eighth-time title if I managed to bring this back. I think that you can have fun

with my social media account for a day. That would be good fun, with it? Oh boy. Ideas churning away in my mind. I can't wait. I can't wait for 24 hours to pass and you guys to do next to nothing.

We'll actually forget about it. Yes. You've got one day left to do it. It better step up. I need to remember my password. I forgot how you guys logged in. Or do one tweet and obese. I'm a smelly poo head and then we'll move on.

I'll get like a thousand re-tweets saying, look amazing. That is actually what's going to happen. Right, we're going to take our first break. On the other side, we'll be talking about Ferrari. Yay! Okay, Ferrari starts to discolampri first and second. Neither of those positions held come the end of the 71 laps.

They finished third and fourth. Charlotte Clare was on the podium in third place, despite that first lap tangle with Sergio Perez. Carlos Sines finishing him fourth was under a bit of pressure from George Russell in the second stim, but eventually that faded until it was a pretty comfortable fourth place for him. Obviously, they started on the front row. Sam, was this realistically all they could have achieved? Or was there a second place somewhere out there for them?

I mean, I made a carbunara almost being sacrifice for the Ferrari duo to go on and do well. And clearly I need to perfect my cooking skills because it hasn't turned out too well. for them. So maybe it's my fault. Sorry, Ferrari. I just don't think they know how their car works very well once it gets to racing conditions, especially in hot weather, because I went on about this in our Mexican preview. I said that MacFestappen is not closer to the midfield.

Come the actual normal race day, he'll be dominant and he was. Ferrari don't understand how to run their tyres over long periods of time and they overheat. And they did. And it looks like they're very rapidly not becoming the second or possibly even third fastest car on the grid at the moment and they're struggling incessantly. Now, what worried me the most with this pace is that apparently, Charlotte

Clair's Ferrari is just as fast with a full front wing as it is missing part of a front wing. And I have to ask Ferrari, what do you think of front wing does if when you lose a lot of it, it still does the same thing? Because that tells me you've not perfecting

a large part of the car. Carlos Sykes, unable to keep up with Charlotte Claire for a lot of that racing, and ended up finishing, I think, about eight seconds behind him. Luckily, obviously, with the red flag, you got to replace that front wing anyway. But it's going to look good before that sting. It is the tyres that are causing Ferrari to have problems. Mercedes on the medium and hard compounds seem to be able to, well, Hamilton especially,

seemed to be able to really eke out that level of performance. Hamilton in the last two Grand Prix in these hotter conditions, where the tyre compounds are needed to be stretched, have been able to pull out performances that we haven't seen from them for quite some time. George Russell not seemingly able to match Lewis Hamilton. I think this has been one of his worst pairs of weekends for quite some time from George. But Hamilton especially is able to take that leap in front of the Ferraris.

Charlotte Clerk, Ben, you might know this stat that I do, but I think he now does have the worst pole to conversion record of any Formula One driver. I think it's 11 poles. It's like 11 poles and no wings is now the conversion rate. In a row, yeah. Yeah, I've just pretty shocking. Just seen a stat from a someone from a rival podcast.

So yellow card to me for this. But this happens now to double figures for the amount of wins he's taken from LeClerpoles. Oh, God, that is disgusting. Can you imagine why? He has more wins than some former champions if you're just counting the races when a guy's part in on pole.

God, that's such. Sorry, Charles. That is brutal. But, I mean, Ferrari, Charles, you've got to start converting meets because the fact that science won in Singapore, and show you've known how 11 pole positions in a row without a conversion is that is horrible. That is absolutely filthy.

So, yeah, I don't think Ferrari understand their race car. I don't think they know what their proper strengths and weaknesses are. There's a quick car somewhere in there and they're lucky that they drive and line up is strong. But over the race pace, it just absolutely crumbles. It falls away. And I think they got lucky that Piascri is still learning. I think they got lucky that Norris had to start from the very back of the grid. I think they got lucky that Russell seemingly wasn't on the same pace as looking.

Lewis Hamilton, and that Lewis Hamilton is the only man in that top set that seemingly able to actually perform any normal race pace that isn't Max Verstappen, because Sergio Perez crashes out in the turn one. So I think they have actually managed to make themselves look better than they really were. I think if Norris was there from the full front, he'd be in front, Prong, Perez in theory should finish in front of them. Russell should be in front of them. Daniel Ricardo was there with him for a lot of the Grand Prix and the Alpha Tauri for crying out loud. In theory, Yuki Sonoda wouldn't have been too far off either. It's just not looking good. I'm hoping that the Freddivass era kicks in at the end of this season and we see a fully comprehensive,

competitive, upfront and ready to go Ferrari that can actually bring consistent performances across race pace in different venues because they just fall apart. They crumble. So, yeah, it's not, it's not been good for Ferrari to get a three, four from a one, two. It's pretty devastating. What were your thoughts, Harry? Obviously, the first and second place where they qualified was and then achieved in the Grand Prix. they do just about end up with more points than,

or sorry, they end up with exactly the same, I think number of points as Mercedes from the race and they beat McLaren, which kind of puts the distance between those two teams a little bit more. Good weekend, bad weekend, anything they could have done differently. This goes back to the point I made at the start of the podcast. I'm slightly unsure whether I liked the red flag coming out or not

because I was intrigued. I don't have a lot of trust in Ferrari. I was intrigued to see where that was going because they had overcut, if you were, and not really overcut anyone. but they were playing the long game here and had gone, what, 10 laps more longer than the likes of, I don't think they're catching this happen,

but the likes of Hamilton, etc. Seven laps, I think it was for science. Seven laps, yeah. So it was, I was intrigued to say where that one was going. Again, I don't know how long that would have, how well that would have played out, but I was, wasn't mad. They seemed the most confident.

They went for plan A. Plan A for Ferrari. You never hear it. What are you doing? What are you doing? They seemed very confident and both drivers agreed, which, you know, unusual. So that's a good thing for them. But yeah, there's someone about that race pace in the car.

It's very quick on one lap. And, you know, yesterday I think it was quite a surprise. We didn't really see that one coming. You know, fair play to them. They locked out the front row. Obviously, they couldn't keep it, but it didn't matter if they couldn't keep it anyway. because I think Perestapel was coming past them, even if it wasn't into term one.

But yeah, it's a confusing one. It's a real head scratcher because you can be as fast as you want on a Saturday. But if you can't convert it into a decent race, I mean, it's still a decent race result, I guess, in terms of where they are on the championship versus their competitors. But given the gap of Lando Norris to signs

by the end of the race, and Lando Norris started at the back. Oh, that's not good. He got only started at the back, right? On the red flag, he got absolutely done. Yeah, I think he could have been past signs, to be honest. It probably would have been if he had a better restart. So that's got to be.

They're very much like Haas in that sense, in terms of the just kind, which is weird because they use similar parts. But the race pace just goes to absolute poo. And they just don't seem to know why. I guess it's only the decent qualifying that's kind of saving them a bit because at least then they've got they've found they're just starting further up the grid

so for next year that's got to be a focus because it's it's painful man Lecler and Leclercler is he drives well a lot I mean we saw it again yesterday and as you said he drove most of the race with a front wing end plate

and it's just painful to see painful to see him having to struggle around because you know I remember the, we all remember the start of the 2022 season when him of Vastappan were battering it out. Now imagine if there's Hamilton in there, it would be glorious. So please, Ferrari, just sort the race pace out. You've got a quick car now.

Well done. Strategy is still a bit questionable. But today you seem confident. So even if it was misplaced, but confidence is key. Now just get a better race car. Please. I think I finally actually solve this. I understand this now.

Ferrari are doing one of those reenactments. They are just reenacting Williams from 2002. Put your car on pole and then just wait and see how long it takes for Michael Schumacher slash Max Verstappen to pass you. That is all they're doing. Replace Montoya with LeCler and replace Schumacher with Verstappen. The thing is, from LeCle's perspective, what more can he do? It's not as if he is bottling these pole positions.

He is doing what he can. And ultimately, I think third place was all that he could achieve. I appreciate the point about the intrigue of where Ferrari would have ended up if their strategy was allowed to be played out. Ferrari must be kicking themselves that they abandoned. They didn't abandon, but they brought their cars in not that long before the red flag came out for Kevin Magnuson. otherwise that would have helped that a little bit

in terms of track position on the restart. But yeah, I think from, from LeCler's perspective, I was fine with the strategy. I think they probably did the right thing in going longer with him.

With Carlos signs, I think that's where they made the error. And this is where, at least for Sky Sports commentary, Bernie Collins was making the point. And side note, can we just have Bernie Collins available every single race week?

She is fantastic. that woman is so good at it. She is, all of the things that I shout at the TV, like every single Grand Prix that no one else picks up. And then she does, it's a great feeling. So well done to Bernie for adapting to that. Anyway, yeah, I mean, she was making the point that as soon as Nika Holcombberg comes into the pits, because that's what caused the gap that Hamilton dropped back into,

sign should have stopped on that lap that Hamilton stopped, because track position was so vital that you at least want to make the other car work for it. I think overall, yes, Lewis Hamilton had the pace advantage on both Ferraris. He might have got past anyway. But at least if you are coming in at the first possible opportunity at that point, he'd have come out just ahead of Pierre Gazley, who was still going around at that point,

you use that opportunity to take the pit stop and then there's no opportunity for Hamilton to undercut. if he's quicker and can beat you on the same strategy, you just hold your hands up and say, okay, fine, they're the pace. Because there's not much you can do at that point. But to allow yourself to be undercut with such ease, and I don't think the deficit would have been enough personally. I don't think the deficit would have been enough for Ferrari to make their way back past

Hamilton. I think he would have held that advantage, which, as I say, if he does, if he has the pace to do that anyway, so be it. But at least make him work for it. I thought Ferrari made a strategic blunder in that sense. In terms of the second half of the race, obviously you would have wanted more from Ferrari's race starts, I think. Vestappen nailed both of the starts.

So that would have been, that would have made things a bit more interesting. But like yourselves, Vastappan had the pace to beat both of them. Once Hamilton was in clean air, he had comfortable pace as well. Signs did what he needed to do to protect against Russell when that was a fight. 3-4, probably what they were going to get at the end of the day. I was really surprised at how the hard tire of LeClair and Sainzic had come properly back into the phase and Hamilton was actually able to run that medium at a faster pace than the hards for the whole 30-odd laps that they were running them for.

I really thought come 15, 16 laps into the stink, we would have started to see that crossover. But the gap just kept growing. I was really quite surprised. Is that on Ferrari or is that on Hamilton? Because as mentioned, signs pulled away from Russell on that same medium tire. is that Hamilton's performance doing the talking there in the later parts of that Grand Prix or is it the tyre factor of the hard's not coming back

like they should have done? It's a very fair question and I think in the post-race interview when Jensen was interviewing Lewis Hamilton Hamilton came out and said, I had to drive like you, I had to nurse those tyres, I had to give them some sweet finesse

I think is what he said because he was running those tyres I think to the absolute end of what they could manage. You might be right, it might have been a Lewis Hamilton tyre master class a day and that might be the difference. makes between a seven-time champ like Hamilton and Russell, who maybe overdid it with some fighting and defending and they fell off. So who knows? It's a good question. It was good to see,

actually, Hamilton acknowledged the driver that beat him over three seasons on points. Oh, my God. If you do add all the points together across those three years, you'll find Jensen Button does end up ahead. Yeah, it's a good point. The Jensen Button hour. It doesn't exist. Right. Driver of the day. Oh.

Who's going first? The verdict is in. You're the driver of the days. You're the driver of the days. You're good at driving. That's you, viewer. Listener. You're a good at driving.

Harry, what you got? I'll go for the obvious one here. Shout out firstly to Danny Rick. think we've got to give that one. I know he's been back already, but second race back, I guess, again. But was very impressive this weekend. But if it was based off the whole weekend, I wouldn't give it to this person because he shouldn't have been where he was in the first place.

But based on today, Lando Norris, absolutely some filthy overtakes today. Just stop being so naughty. It was, yeah, I felt dirty after watching it. but just the medium tyre work and that second stint, I know it got mocked at the start again, which again docks him down a few points,

but made that medium tyre work like no other person could make it work. I don't know what he was doing. Louis Hamilton was doing some sweet finesse, well, who knows what Landoz was doing to those tires, but...

Louis Hamilton just took it to Dirty Town. He got naughty with it. Nolty. But yeah, Lando Norris for me. There's happened again, obvious contender, what else is there to say about that stuff and say, I won't say him.

But yeah, I'll settle for Philando Norris, the popular vote. There are actually rumours in the paddock that George Russell might not go to the Brazilian Grand Prix to race because his career might be over. He's over. He sent him so bad. It was unreal.

He's covered. He's absolutely covered in filth. I'm heavily. I've actually vomited. The Ferrari pass. well through turns four and five. Oh, I'm sorry, the... Was it Ferrari? Or was it on Ricardo?

No, it was on Ricardo. The Ricardo moves from four and five. That was... Shee! So for Kigsdo. Shee! I don't even know what that is, but sure. Neither do I.

It's a good thing. Let me know. Is that good? It's offensive. Who knows? I might have offended everyone. Sam, what have you got driver of the day? I don't want to pick the same as Harry

just for variation, but landing or is 100% deserves it. why I actually wouldn't give to Lando is the point you made, Harry, that he put himself in the first place, and I do think he mucked up on the restart, and I think that was all his fault as well. But the overtakes were sensational. I'm going to go with old Louis Han, because I think that might be his best drive of this season so far.

Great tire management. He destroyed the Ferraris, both of them. He had to work on his own to do it. The strategy finally from Mercedes was bang on. They actually got it entirely right. Every tire choice was correct. the pit lap was correct. They were aggressive, well done to Mercedes.

And he didn't moan once, not properly. Only a little bit. He said, this might be difficult. Bono went, you could do it. And he went, yes, I can. And I'm like, honestly like a child. Bono's worked it out. Just be happy, positive tones and we'll be fine.

And he's like, yeah, right. He's like he's five and he will thrive. That's the new rhyme. You're one of eight drivers on the medium tire. I'm sure you can do it like the rest. will remember how many times you've won and how many championships you have if anyone could do it louis it's you and lewis goes oh you're too nice i'm going to do it so for me you get to try with the day he was great i when um bono it was early in the race bono came on the radio

and was like how's the balance louis and he was like balance is great mate and i was like okay how will do us having a great race today we're having a great day we cook him we can get a big happy okay uh from from my side yeah daniel ricardo does it There's a shoutout. Lando Norris is not getting driver of the day from me. Qualified better scrub. Lewis Havilton was great. I am going to give it to Max for stab,

but he wasn't even in the top three. That's fair. I mean, if it weren't for the red flag, that might have been the most dominant win it had all year. He opened up, I think it was about a 16 second lead, had a red flag, had to do a restart again, which is a scary prospect on pole in Mexico, and then opened up another 14 second lead.

He opened up a double-digit lead twice in the same race, and he wasn't in the top three for driver of the day. I'm going to give it to him. Again, another video message is really ominous when, again, fairly early on, GP was like, Max, you don't need to take that much curb of turn three. And he was like, mate, I'm trying to not to, you know, but this car was terrible through that corner. And he was still extending the gap.

And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. The phrase, our car isn't quite lovely through that corner. It's sensational. It's not quite lovely through there. Yes, Max. Get that tattooed someone. It's not quite lovely. I think it was probably the end of the first lap or maybe the beginning of the second lap.

And you saw the gap and it was like, yeah, this is done. This is done. No chance. I told you it was going to be pure domination. What about worst driver of the day? Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, bin. Worst driver of the day Ben Ben Ben

Worst driver of the day You suck at driving You've got Harry Who was horrendously bad today I mean Sergio Perez wasn't great I I

It feels like they're really obvious one to But you give me first I'll give it to Sergio Perez don't drive into cars at turn 1 on lap 1, mate. That's bad tactic. Let's get the book out. Don't crash. Write it down.

Another one would have been Yuki Sinoda, who actually was having a great race. I mean, he was helped by the red flag somewhat. Having a great race. But then he's like, Oscar, mate. Oscar Piastri, you don't exist. So bye-bye, I'm going to drive as if you weren't there. And then ruin any chance points.

so well on you keep but I'll go for Paris Have you got some? Two of the games I think are fully justified Harry is called out I'm going to go with the opposite side of the Mercedes garage though

Georgie Russ who started what two places behind his teammate could get half the overtakes done burnt out his tyres very quickly I think ending up something like 25 seconds behind his teammate which any other team at that front end

we would have called out immediately as an absolute shocker Russell has had not got to grips with the car on the tracks, both at Cota and here at Mexico. And he's on the struggle bus to nowhere town at the moment. And the guy needs some points because this is rapidly turning into a bit of a Lewis Hamilton domination in the team standings. They're close in qualifying, but at the moment, that race pace is nowhere for him.

And this was, I say he was under pressure at the start of the race weekend. He's not delivered. It was a shocker. Just, and as we've already spoken about, the Phil from Norris to mug him off like that, someone like George Russell as well, that's not on. You can't be having that, George. So, yeah, Russell, worst row of the day. Fernando Alonzo.

Slow. Very slow. I was hoping we wouldn't get back to asking Martin. It sounds weird to say it. Fernando Alonzo and Slow don't usually belong in the same sentence unless there's also a negative in there. But, yeah, I know he retired, but he wasn't fighting in the top 10 before, that was he? Fernando Alonzo.

passed by his teammate yeah just a rough weekend really I mean the spin itself and qualifying was not good and it just didn't get any better from there he hates that new car doesn't he can I throw a conspiracy theory

oh god I don't think it's going to matter what our answer is so good I'm going to say it's a rhetorical question I think they retired him to save face I fully agree I mean to be fair I mean what

He's trundling around on the back What difference does it make if he gets, if they take him out? I don't, I don't know. Like, would he have saved face? Like if he'd finished 16th, would that have...

I think they'll come out and say that you have a problem for most of the Grand Prix or something or is it always nursing an issue. I think that's what they'll come out and say. But they could say that even if he finished, right? Yeah, true. But I think this compounds it.

So that's what I think they've done. I think they love a long so and they've gone, oh, let's, let's help him. Please stay with us. rather controversially. We'll do Big Bain. Big Bain strategy. Big Bain.

We're going to attack Bairn. Sorry, just on that big. Sorry, Ben. Just on that note of mispronouncing things, did you hear Crofty say that George Russell finished sex when he came across the line?

Yeah, I really. I'm a real childish giggled to myself. Sorry, anyway, Big Bain. Oh, good job, Crofty. There's an awful joke in there somewhere. I'll find it. Right. We'll do big brain strategy in the next segment,

and we'll take our next short break. Let's talk a bit about Alpha Tauri, because Daniel Ricardo from a personal perspective, delivered a great performance, but obviously it's also a very good performance for the team. We actually discussed this on the preview episode, those sorts of seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth positions and what could change come the end of this season.

That's a rather useful result for the team, Sam. Yeah, I think now, Ben, you'll get correct me if I'm wrong. Have they become equal with Alpha Amelia 1 points after that seventh place result that Ricardo picked up or are they just behind? Yeah, I think so. They're now level on 16, maybe. But I think they've gone above them because of performances, right?

Yeah. So as they'd like to really hammer home over the UK commentary, that essentially was a $20 million performance. That's the level of prize money. They just gained from that jump. And I don't think I'm the only one. That Alpha Tauri surprised me. today. I think they claimed it was the most upgraded car this season over the course of the whole

season. And for the first time, I think we really got a proper taste of what that looked like, both from Daniel Riccardo and Yuki Sanova's point of view. I think Yuki showed a little bit of experience, as Harry Dori mentioned, he literally forgot Oscar Pliastri existed. He did a Charler at Austria where he just didn't realize the size of his car and drove straight into the side of someone. Great move there, Yuki. But the red flag helped out Yuki, and it looked like at one point we were going they get maybe like a sixth and eighth or a seventh and eighth from Alpha Tauri, which would have brought them right behind Williams in one performance. And after this Grand Prix, there's every chance they can still beat Williams. Seventh place could still very much be on the cards

overall from pure points perspective. Ricardo was phenomenal. That qualifying, that was fantastic. We said, you know, could you keep out the penalty off from the back, also qualifying Q3. They were just delivering strong performances, strong maps time and time again. whatever they've done where they've changed their upgrade strategy to follow more closely to Red Bull has immediately kicked them up the performance grid. And they might be a threat for regular points now for the last three races of the season. The likes of Alpine asking if they bother to turn up, Hasse, Williams are going to need to be wary because the positions from kind of seventh, eighth, ninth, ninth and tenth in the point standings every race,

they might have two Alphi Taris in them from now on. It might be much harder for them to get regular points. I genuinely think this might flip the script. I think they could beat Williams out come the end of the season. What are you for, sorry? Yeah, I mean, we saw glimpses of this

at the end of the race in in Austin. We were there if we didn't mention that already. Are we? I know. I saw it as well. But the problem was in Austin. They qualified much worse

than they did this time. I know Yuki was at the back this time, but Ricardo in particular for the main race was not in a good spot or as good a spot. so we didn't really see that come to fruition quite so much and it was happening towards the end of the race but they weren't really spots that were worthy fighting for.

So it's good to see that's carried on. I'll be intrigued to see if it continues to carry on or if it was more track-specific with Mexico. But that's a huge chunk of points. I'll tell you what, it's really helped me my teammate wars predictions as well. Thank you, Daniel. And thank you, Yuki, for being bad on that one.

Yeah, big poos on that for me. Big poos. Don't worry because Ocon Oh no, Occon gained A point. We move. Yeah, you should be very slowly grab her. Come on.

We are crawling along. But anyway, yeah, look, this is, it's encouraging for Alvatari. And as you say, start of the year, it was a terrible car. It's getting much better rapidly in a similar way to the McLaren,

although not quite McLaren pace, but although he did beat Piestri, didn't he, Ricardo, so who knows. I'll tell you what, Piastri, he's very young. Just stop chewing your tyres up, mate. Stop doing that.

Ateam. Eve. Actually, he got out of a big race munched. But, yeah, so it's going to be very interesting to see how this goes for the remainder of the season. But it's an encouraging sign for Alfatari

and, you know, if they're moving more towards a red ball structure in as we move into next year, then that's only good news for them. But today was very encouraging because clearly they had a quick car. And actually, yes, I'll be really pleased with P7. Arguably, they could have had P6. I think Ricardo got slightly mugged at the restart

with Russell. He got slightly boxed in. And Sonoda should have picked up points as well. So it could have been even bigger haul. But this is a big result for them, considering where they started this year. I reckon watch out for Las Vegas. I reckon they're going to go big there.

on the track or off the track both mate I think they're going to put it all on black and wing everything they win the title I don't think Maxfussappan's going to put his title on the line on a run imagine that if that's the twist

you can gamble away the title in terms of this result massively encouraging for Ricardo personally massively encouraging for the team and whilst this was definitely the highlight of their year so far I think the best thing for them is it wasn't out of place. I know that this might have been the peak of their performance,

but as referenced, the last few races, they have pretty much been on it. We did have a couple of races where Yuki Sonoda was not allowed to finish a lap. It would have been really interesting to see where he would have been in those two races because I think this car has had pace pretty much since the summer break. I don't remember them being particularly quick at Zanvort, but outside of that,

I think they've had an all right car since. we've come back. And this was the best result so far. From Daniel Ricardo's perspective, his individual result, what we often see with these teams that are seventh, eighth, ninth in the championship, is that whenever they do deliver a result that's in the points, it will come as a result of something unexpected happening in a Grand Prix. So, for example, Nico Holkenberg at the Australian Grand Prix picked up seventh place, I think.

but the amount of things that needed to happen for that result to happen, on pure pace, he's probably not getting a point. Look at Austin last time out and Williams finishing 9th and 10th. They need disqualifications to finish there. Here, apart from Sergio Perez, obviously retired first lap, I don't think there was anyone lower than Ricardo that should have beaten him on pace today. I think, you know, Piastri finished behind him. He was quicker than Piastri.

simply put, like, he was quicker. And he might well have been quicker than George Russell. And to your point, if he doesn't get him at the start, I don't think Russell makes that overtake happen. So he finished, I think, where he deserved to finish. And if Yuki Sanoda had remembered Oscar Piastri was a person, he might have been there as well. Those two drivers were, I think, legitimately top seven performers,

which is great for Alfatari to look at a result like this, not to just say, yeah, we've got the point. But to say that we legitimately got those points, three races to go. If they can claim anything more, yes, seventh place might well be out there for him. Let's move on to McLarence. Obviously, we've touched on Lando Norris's recovery and other segments so far, but just to look at that, obviously a qualifying performance that left a lot to be desired, a lot of work to do in the race today, up 12 positions from his starting position, which we know beats his

previous record, which was nine positions gained in a Grand Prix, all the way up to 10 points in fifth place. Sam, I know we've already given him a nod in driver of the day, so I'm assuming this would be mostly praised, but what were your thoughts on his performance? Yeah, I mean, if we remove the concept of Saturdays from a Formula One race weekend, this was absolutely phenomenal. If we don't remove the concept of qualifying, then he had to do all the work that he didn't do on the Saturday and don't be wrong. He did the work. He actually put a shifting and he recovered fully to where he probably should have been arguably. He could have been further up. So, you know, if you're going to make a mistake, he owned it. He came out on the radio immediately and he was very frustrated with

himself, but he was also very clear that the blame lies with him. And I respected that. And he got in that car on Sunday and he just did it. He just did the F1 and he did it really quite well. overtakes were filthy. He held no prisoners. He, you know, planting it around inside, outside, all sides, upside, downside. He was everywhere. The man can not be stopped where it came to overtakes. And when you are struggling to get a performance thing on the Saturday,

which we're seeing a couple of times now from Lando, I'm thinking of Qatar as well. He had a bit of a bustle there. You know, you've got to be able to deliver it on the Sunday. You've got to be able to recover. And he did recover. The fact that he was passing was, what, pastry was immense. And then I think realistically,

he probably should have been in science, but he bottled the restart. So I think probably fourth, maybe not third, but you know, it could have been on the cards. So, you know,

it was a great recovery to shame he had the bad qualifying. I think if he didn't have bad qualifying and he qualifies in the top 10, he could have been fighting with Hamilton, I think, for a P2 or P3. Yeah, I would agree with that.

And ultimately, I think everything went against him today. Some of it self-inflicted, some of it, not self-inflicted, but I think almost everything went against him. So,

firstly he was the only driver to use the soft tire. I still don't think that was a good idea. I think he could have used the medium tire and still done the same strategy and that would have been more effective. So, I mean, the soft tire, he was struggling on that. And he only gained two positions on the start. So I think they were perhaps, and one of them was, of course, Perez. So in reality, it was one position gained at the start.

I think they were probably hoping for more than that, given the tire compound difference. So I think he should have started on the medium So that didn't go his way Obviously then he pit just Sorry he pit when the safety car came out But before the red flag came out Which I think that's probably on the team In the I think it was fairly obvious

A red flag was going to be waived there I think as soon as it happened I went yeah, it's a red flag So I think McCarran should have seen that coming That obviously hurt But the poor start Was self-inflicted But again that didn't go his way

And yeah, I think if you add all of those things together, if all of those things he either does better or other people do better for him, I think, yeah, I think Signs was getable. I think LeClau was getable. And in pure pace, he was probably on it with Hamilton. I don't know about Vastappen, obviously, because Vastappen was quite good.

But Hamilton and Norris, I think pace-wise, there probably wasn't much to choose. So to beat your teammate as well when you're starting 10 positions or whatever ended up being different. That's pretty good going. So, yeah, he did pretty much everything he needed to do in that recovery.

But two points, Sam, it's his own fault he needed to do it. Harry, your thoughts? Norris is going to start thinking, like, and it's mostly his own fault, but like, what do I need to do? There's always something that goes wrong. And again, I don't think this was a win on the cards, but there just seems to be something

that gets in the way. away from a better result. And yeah, Kordofan yesterday was it. And then I guess a restart as well. As you mentioned, being pitted under the safety car. It didn't cost him massively, but it still puts you further back a little bit. And yeah, it just seems to, things seem to work against him. Sometimes not his fault.

Sometimes they are his fault. But, you know, it was still an encouraging, very encouraging drive from him, as we've already mentioned. But he just, yeah, he just needs everything. to come together for him. Like Piastri, he's been better than Piastri this year. Not saying Piastri has been bad, but overall Piastri has not been quite as good as Lando Norris. I think we saw that again today.

But Piastri is the one who's got a sprint win. And it's that sort of thing. Like it just came together for Piastri on that day when it didn't for Norris. And that was kind of self-inflicted again from Norris because he had lap, was it? No, he went off the track, didn't any qualify or something. I can't remember.

But yeah, he must start to be wondering that. but it will, I'm confident. Confident it will come together for him at some point if he continues to drive the way he does. Just needs a bit of luck on his side. Okay, let's do Big Bain strategy, shall we? Ah, Bob, we're going to need you to box for wets. What?

Oh, it just reminds you saying the Killers Live, which we did in Austin last week. They didn't play this one. honestly they were one song away on the set list as well because they played game as a friend of mine and I was quite I mean I love that song but I was a bit sad Harry what was your big brain strategy my big brain strategy

was just Ferrari coming on the radio said they're going to do a one stop I'm sorry you're going to do a what's that? You're going to do a what you just said it when do they do that? Never. I was shocked Apparently the alphabet starts with A. But that's the thing.

I think that would have been plan A. They didn't have to go very far down the playbook to get to that strategy. They could have said plan A. Honestly, shook us. I just couldn't believe it. Anyway, as I said, would have been intriguing to see how they played out.

They didn't do it one stop at the end because of the red flag. But I just couldn't believe it. Ferrari saying what they're going to do on strategy. You knew. My big brain strategy is one of my, favorites for a long time. Oh, here we go.

My man, the bacon was out. Esteban Ockon calling his shots, saying, listen here, ass, you punks. I'm going to overtake you, Nico Horkenberg. And then just not do it. No, he gave it a go, and it was the worst attempt at an overtake. He kind of just whirled through the corner, and then just it didn't happen. And he nearly got so out of shape that he was overtaking.

of like Ghazley. He was right. He made the overtake just 15 laps later on. Honestly, the cheers in this household when Ockon went from 11th to 10. It was the whole village heard.

Oh, man didn't put a time on it. All right? He got to get down. Pass. I'm calling you out. But what did, like,

what did he think? Why? I don't understand why he said that. Has that ever happened? Why are you calling out an entire team to say, I'm coming for you? No. I hope Hulk's shaking his boots because I'm cunning. I just, what?

He thought he was in Fast and Furious thing for a minute. He thought he was Vin Diesel. Oh, God. I tell you, Al-Pee must be hating Hass because Gassley was stuck behind Holkenberg for the entire first stint, and then Ockon was behind him the whole second stint. But yeah, all that for one point. Sam, what was your big brain strategy? Now, as much as I love that one,

and then you're right, that was Havaris. We've taken too long a step away from Ferrari. One point away from Ferrari is one too many. So we're going to bring it right back to them. And this was when the red flag and come out and showler, as little radio message pops up and goes, if we go hard tires on the restart, it's going to be a disaster. We're going to be, you know, it won't work.

It won't work. Cut, race restart, both cars on the hard tire. It didn't work. I shouldn't listen to Shalaclacl because it didn't work. So that was great. I mean, they were doing so well with the plan A and the one stop. It all looked confident. And then they didn't listen again.

And it didn't work. So yeah, that one. Good one, Ferrari. Two out of three is a usual appearance for you in this segment. We'll take our last short break moment of the race on the other side. Ontario, the weight is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget Online Casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips.

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19 and over, physically present in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. See Golden Nuggett Casino.com for details. Please play responsibly. Okay, moment of the race submissions, as always provided by our Discord. we'll get to in just a moment's time, but we'll give our own moment of the race before that. So, Sam, kick us off. What was yours?

Well, I've got to talk more about the Norris cut through of the whole track, but it was that move from Norris on Ricardo. It cannot have been more inch perfect if he tried. The man was, you know, he was like Rambo. You know, he was just cussing through everything around him. And Daniel Ricardo, you know, when he's on it, he's on it. The last of the late breakers, as they'd like to keep saying on Sky F1, copyright, my falls. You know, I think that you go up against Daniel, you expect to challenge. But Landau, planting it, smashed it. I'm it. Thank you. Bye-bye. It was great. Loved it. Fantastic it moved

from Landon Norris. I don't want to single out one incident, but there were a number of incidents throughout the Grand Prix, Strol Bottas, Perez First Corner, Piastri Sonoda. And I want to give credit there, Norris and Ricardo through that corner. It kind of made the others look a little bit amateurish, I thought, just how much trust they had in one another to make that work and then seeing all the other ones pile up. That's how I kind of saw that. Yeah, fair. Harry, what was your moment of the race? Related to your final point there, Ben, mine was, Uki-Snowdic was obviously forgetting that

Piastri existed, just drove into him and got punted off. But my moment of the race is Oscar Piastri on the radio, just the least unfazed man you've ever heard in human history. Ah. He just drove into me. There's a sonoda in my hip. He's just... It honestly baffles me how... He just doesn't care.

Like, that was annoying. Oh, well. Oh, we'll move on. Garrier. It's like a collision at 200 miles an hour. That was mildly irritation. It's just how he sounds like he doesn't care. Yeah. I'm sure it does care.

But just the way he sounds. Yeah. Yeah, I just... And I love it, though. Because a lot of them, you know, get very annoyed on the... Estabana Ockham with a simply random outbursts. They say some weird stuff on the radio. Oscar Piastri, it's just like, oh, okay.

All right, then. Never mind. I wipe my hands of it. On to the next one. On to the next one. We move. I'm actually going with quite an obvious moment of the race, which was David Croft calling Esteban Gutierrez and Jerome Dambrose,

you henchmen. I just... I love it. Why? Why? Look at me. Estefac de Harris. Okay.

Sure. The world's strongest man. Yes. Gros Dambrosia. But what have we got from our Discord? Oh, righty then. Here we go, folks. First up, Bristol Liam.

Because obviously... Oh, God. Bring on the accent. Right. Molly moving at the race. It's going to sound a bit cruel, but it was key, came out crashing because it brought the red flag

so I could go and make my hot chocolate without being scared of missing something in the race. Cheers. Very valid. He burned his tongue on that. Oh man. Can I just say another nomination for the member of the race was Kevin Mangson just stood at the sidelines

watching his crumpled hats of burn. Just like, I don't know. You burn, I don't care. Fair. Completely fair. Oh, Lordy Lord. Okay, next up is, come on, 19 kilobytes of Skyler. Right, here we go.

K-Mex sitting on barriers. Well, there you go. Yes, well done, Skylar. Cheers, Skylar. I guess this will be a happy person. Bungers. Hello, my late breaking lads from across lay big wet. It is the McLaren seat.

oh yeah and my moment of the race for the Mexican Grand Prix has to be that sweet sweet overtake that Lando pulled on Daniel Ricardo leaving just enough space for me to stick a nickel in there and

save it for later when I need this when I need a soda from the vending machine yeah I'm going to steal that one stick a nickel yeah good Lord I think I think of a stick a nickel Thank you, bungers.

Next up is Elplan Sam. Hey guys. Moment of the race, Lando Norris around the outside of Daniel Ricardo. That was absolutely amazing. Also, Yuki Sonoda trying and failing to go around the outside of Oscar Piastri. And Piastri just being like, yeah, he hit me. Like, so calm.

I literally love him. I mean, you both, Elplan, Sam. I love that. Next up is shaky pudding. Is this a new one or a new name? I can't tell. But anyway, it comes shaky pudding. I was going to be shaky.

It's a jelly, yeah. Jello. Here we go. Jellar because jam don't shake. Here we go. Hey, Lay Breakers, shaky pudding here. It's my first submission.

Moment of the race for Mexican Grand Prix has got to be that last pass by Norris on Russell. smooth as butter runner up would be them saying George Russell

came in sex place and saved six at the other I'm mad after our own heart oh we are a very talkish gig a living smooth as butter

shaky as pudding that's a bumper sticker oh good Lord okay next up norm from Texas Hello,

Dome de'estateca. Anyway, hey everyone, it's Norman from Texas and I'm here to give... Did he just say he goes to the library? He's asking where it is. All right, okay, fine. In my moment of the race, in my moment of the race

was watching both of the McLaren's get into the points. Oh my goodness, we got Oscar Piastry driving like the cold-blooded cycle we know him to be. We got Lando Norris driving so angry.

He came back from all the way in the back of the field up into fifth. also Alcon buddy don't call your shots anyway keep breaking light and this one's for buggers yeah good all the points were made time was given

exactly exactly next up SoCal Jen Hey there gentlemen It's SoCal Jen here I hope you're recovered from your jet lag Moment of the race Oh, God, Checo. Lap one.

Come on, Checo. But on a happier note, what about that Danny Ricardo? P7, almost P6. Okay, guys, join the Patreon and keep breaking late. Thank you, SoCal. Love that. We should start using their sounds on the soundboards

because that wamp, wamp, that was great. That was good. The real John Moe I think we got a few Oh good Lord I've seen Not the real one I've seen a name for two times

Oh anyway We'll get to that The real John Moe is next Finding out that Checo is going to be a commercial airline pilot After shanking that landing so badly Is definitely the highlight of the race Oh he shanked that landing Thank you

Thank you the real John Moe I appreciate that. We appreciate that. I think another new one, FGE Digital, sounds like a business has sent us. It does. Anyway, here we go. Santa, lads.

My moment of the race would definitely have to be Ockon, on the radio, telling his engineer to tell Hass, he's going for it. Oh, good Lord. And then bottled it and didn't go for it for about 10 laps. Yep, it's a good one. That's the French way, I think.

That's the French way. I'll get to it. Taking his time, it's fine. Okay, next up is Chuckie Laplucky. Brilliant. Nice. Sensational.

Moment of the race. It's just a little bit of fire. Yeah, it was just a little bit of fire. Just a little bit. Just a little bit more. Just a little bit of fire. It's all of this. Kitty Ninja is next.

I don't really. have a moment of the race. I mean, I would just say, you know, the past that Lando had on Russell was fantastic. But I got to give it to Daniel Ricardo for bringing home P7 and a car that doesn't deserve to be in P7. Okay, bye. I love moment of the race submissions that start with. I don't have a moment of the race.

Yeah. It's great. And they give a full moment with the race. Yeah. Yeah. You did have one. We got stick for skipping the, whoever that was. Classic cult.

Who is it? Carlson, LGN. Sorry about that. Sorry, Carson. Finally. Deep breath of one. Oh, no. I can't do it.

Finally is a submission here. No. You can't. From Randy Dick. Here we go. Good night, mates. It's your boy. Randy Dick.

Driver of the day. Danny Rick. Phenominal. Another lap and you would have had that Palmie, George. Worst driver of the day, Perezi. If he's going to finish 120 minutes behind Danny,

he might want to give footy a go. Did he call George Russell a pom? Yes, we are the Appelves. It was a good performance. I got up for that. I think he meant Pommies in the Aussie slang term for English people,

not apples. I thought that's what it translated to, because it's French. The Pommie. Is that a Pommie? Oh, I'm going to Google it now. Did they call us Pommies because we look like apples? Probably when we sunburned.

I feel like there's a more historic reasoning behind it, but I'd like to think that's the reason. You'll be pleased to know everyone. That was the last one. We made it. We made it. There was no going up from that point. Very true.

Very true. I am utterly exhausted. Sam, would you mind getting us out of here? Oh, good. We've made it. Sorry, folks. Every time, if you're watching on the camera, which is available on YouTube,

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