The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2023 Monaco GP Review

Episode Date: May 28, 2023

Ben and Harry review the Monaco GP where Verstappen defied the threat of Alonso and the mid-race downpour that caused some chaos further down the grid to secure another victory. The boys discuss whether Alonso could have challenged without the extra pit stop, Ocon and Alpine's first podium of the season, Perez' troubles this weekend, as well as that electrifying qualifying session! As usual they also review their bold predictions, name their DOTD and share listener moments of the race.. SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704 TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ EMAIL us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Well, welcome to the Late Breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead and me, Ben Hocking, as we review the Monaco Grand Prix. Folks, this is definitely the first time I've done this intro. I definitely wasn't on the wrong mic beforehand. You won't have heard it, but everything is going well here at Late Breaking HQ. Max Verstappen took race victory. So despite there being rain in Monaco,

it didn't stop Red Bull from taking first place once again, Fernando Alonzo in second. And Esteban Ockon claiming third for his and the team's first podium of the season. Harry, I know that Sam's not here. He'd usually be giving his anti-monico stance. But that was a pretty good race from Monaco. Are you surprised? Obviously, Monaco is given a good race.

Stop it. Yeah, it was. It was actually a decent of race. And to be fair, and it was for Monaco standards of race, before the rain, I thought it was okay. I mean, drivers were just willing to chuck, chuck moves down the inside wherever. There was like a gap. They didn't care.

Oh, look, there's a 3% chance this might come off. Exactly. Go ahead and do it. I'm not sure what got into them all today. But yeah, car signs. Lancaster, I think, tried an overtake on every single corner of the. the track on Kevin Manxon. I don't think it was far off.

It wasn't limited to corners. I'm sorry. He's probably still trying to overtake him now, even though Boefe ended up retiring. Give it a good go. But yeah, and then obviously the rain came and carnage ensued but in typical Monaco fashion we ended up with the same top three we started with.

Of course we did. That's the only way that race could possibly end. Coming up on today's episode, we've got Moment of the the Race submissions coming up last does Monaco still have a place on the calendar? Does it still deserve its place on the calendar after what we saw this weekend? Sergio Perez, despite the fact that Max Verstappen took the race win,

it wasn't a perfect weekend for Red Bull. Sergio Perez, well outside the points. We'll be discussing what went wrong for him throughout the few days. And Esteban Ockham will be discussing Alpine a little bit more. But firstly, Max Verstappen, taking the race win, he now holds the championship lead by 39 points. Of course, that was very close to race. ago. It's now extended all the way out to 39 points. He beat Fernando Alonzo very comfortably in the end.

I think it ended up being around 27 seconds. But of course, it was in a little bit of jeopardy when the rain came out, a lot of uncertainty in terms of what strategy to go on. Whatever strategy was right to go on, Aston Martin went the other way. They went on to dry tires, immediately realized that was the wrong call and Alonzo having to make a second, unforced really pit stop. Harry, did it matter in the end. Would Alonzo still have been second anyway, or was there a chance he could have challenged him if he went onto the tyres that he questioned maybe what might have been the right ones? This is such, in these situations when we have wet dry races, by the way, as we've said before, wet races, fully wet races, overrated, wet dry. Yep. Bangers. But yeah, in these situations

when the carnage is ensuing, like these decisions are so split second that, you know, they'd put, Astin Martin of Wittstrol on the, on the inters, and they, oh, they weren't working. He'd done two or three laps, and because the rain at that point was just at, like, Mirabeau Lowe's section of the, of the circuit, they weren't working.

So I can see why they, I can see why they did what they did. If they had Chutton on Inters, he definitely would have, he'd have come out somewhere near for Stappen, whether he would have actually, got out of head. He may well have done,

but it was, yeah, I think it would have been touching, and as much as I'd like to think that, you know, he could have then gone on to one win from there.

I think it would have been, would have been tough. So, would that have been your heart talking? Yeah, I think so, rather than my head. Yeah,

so it was such, such a tricky kill. And if it had stayed like that, and they stuck Alonzo on those slicks, it stayed just, you know, in a concentrated area of the track, they could have looked like geniuses as well. So given with the position they were,

they said, him and Vestappen had built themselves that comfort of, they could just, they could do this pit stop and still be fine. It was worth, it was worth the gamble. Yes, it might have cost them. But again, I still think it would, the gap was still pretty big to Vestappen, when Alonso-Bocked. So, you know, it's, it's hindsight, isn't it?

it is 2020, but it, I really, I would, I would, it's hard. I think it's really harsh to, to berate Aston Martin. Yes, it might have been a mistake, but also it could have been, it could have been the greatest school. And in the end, they took the gamble. It didn't work, but they could afford to take the gamble because he still came out P2 after it all. So a tough one.

It would be very harsh to berate Aster Martin for the call, which is why I am going to berate Aster Martin for the call. I thought it was a dumb decision in all honesty. Not necessarily the decision itself, but the timing of it, because there would have been no real disadvantage, I don't think, to them doing the same strategy when they properly knew it was the right call. So he was going on to from the hards to the mediums. And we know that those hards, at least versus what Max Verstappen was on at the time,

which was the medium tire, were doing better as they would do after that much running. So why don't you just wait it out to see that you're definitely making the right call here? At that point in time, it is a real unknown. Should we go to intermediates or should we stick on the dry tires? But the decision to stick on the dry tires didn't need to be made in that moment. They could have waited another five laps to then see, okay, no, it's definitely inters or, oh no, it's definitely dries. They were really in the thick of we don't know which way to go on this. and at that point they made the call.

And I just don't think it was, it seemed like a snap decision where it wasn't really necessary. They could have just, they could have waited a little bit. You know, if they had waited a couple of laps, they would have at that point been able to definitively say, yes, the intermediate tire is the right call.

And until they were certain on it one way or the other, just stay out on the hard tires. They could have stayed out. They could have stayed out with, I know the rain obviously came about, but if it didn't, they could have stayed out until five laps to go on that hard tire. No one was getting past Alonzo.

So I think they just, they managed to force themselves into a corner when nothing was forcing them there. And it is split decision. I appreciate that. And they weren't the only team that got it wrong on the day. And I don't know whether Alonzo could have won, but that gap was very close to 20 seconds with Alonzo having done an extra pit stop,

which is roughly speaking the amount of time you need. So it could have been very close. It's all about track position. So we can say after the fact that 27 seconds between Alonzo and Vestappan means Vestappen would have won by a mile. But of course, if Alonzo has tracked position, it doesn't matter how much quicker Vastappan can go. Alonzo still probably holds on.

If Alonzo is in first place and he has tracked position, I don't care what Vastappan tries. A lot, he's not getting past. A lot of so he might be there with, he would use every trick in the book to make sure that that didn't happen. So, yeah, I thought it was a bad call. Fingers crossed for Aston Martin,

they get in the position again where they are challenging. But this feels like a missed opportunity. I don't know when the next chance will, you know, maybe it's next weekend, but I'm not certain on when the next chance will be that they get an opportunity as good as this one today.

yeah i think that then maybe not going to come around as easily as that one uh every race but you know you never know i might imagine if goes in wins in spain he won't give them monkeys if it won in monaco fair point yeah um yeah it's just one of those where when you're leading the championship you want every variable and every condition to stay as stable as it possibly can because you know at that point you've got the pace to win here we had monaco which is in itself such a unique track plus unique weather conditions. It works against everything you don't want as a champion and it works towards everything you want as a challenger

and it still wasn't enough. So slight frustration there, I guess, that they couldn't make it work. What did you make of Vestappen's performance though? Because we spoke briefly before hitting the record button. A lot of walls brushed this weekend, but nothing hit, nothing terminal. How impressed were?

you buy his performance. I know it's becoming a running joke that I say it's a lot, but he is quite good at the F1. He is, isn't he? He, yeah, look,

I think the most impressive parts, I guess, of his weekend, sector three in quality yesterday. Jesus, man. What, that is,

I guess that's the sector three that he should have had in Saudi Arabia, 2021, but actually this time he finished it off. I, I just don't quite understand how we, how we did that sector three. So that for one, I think his early, the early part of his race on the medium ties where he just took off.

I know Alonso was struggling with with graining and actually started to come back at him just before the rain hit. But that first part was mental. I, you know, I thought it was race over basically by lap 25. So that was impressive. And then actually we're after the, you know, keeping it on track. They all kept on track. How did they all, I mean, some again gave it a good go. How did we have no safety cars?

What? I do not know. I don't understand. I think the only reason that we didn't have any safety cars was because all the crashes happened at about five miles now. They were pathetic crashes. But yes, but his stint after everyone changed onto inters, again, he, I thought at one point, Alonzo looked in the groove

and he got it down to like 16, 15 seconds. But as he said, just happened ended up winning by 27. So he was, he was pretty damn good this weekend and I know there's a lot of you know a lot of comments about that it's the car and yes sure it's a dominant car but none of the

traits of that car made him go that quickly through sector three of Monaco that was all max for Stappen and my dad said this but a few years ago he'd have ripped all four corners off that car trying to do that lap whereas now he finished the lap so yeah he was mightily impressive.

I think what I might answer on to this but qualifying for me yesterday was one of the best qualifiers I've ever watched in my life

it was it was ridiculous that was utterly bonkers Esteban Elcom was on poll at one point I was there like finger

over the keys of my phone just like I'm ready to type Leplan I'm ready to type Lepla plan and then obviously it didn't work out for it we'll discuss qualifying a little bit later on too

but yeah that was that was was something special. But yeah, Max was insane. And it wasn't like all weekend, but it was just when it mattered. He was on it. And yeah, that's why he's 39 points ahead.

Well, one of the reasons. The other reason is Sergio Perez can't do Santa for. We'll also get onto that one in a little bit as well. Yeah, that was a special weekend from Max Verstappen. Because you're right, it's not even necessarily the times or, the outright pace. Obviously, they are impressive. It's the timing of when he needs to pull something out of the bag,

namely sector three on the last lap of Q3. At that point, he needs to go 100% maximum attack. Not any of the other laps leading up to Q3, not even the first runner Q. That's the point at the heat, which he needs to risk absolutely everything. And he waited until really he needed to and didn't do anything before that.

or he didn't over-risk anything before that. That Q3 is sector 3, right? Then you could, I don't think there was any one point in that sector where he wasn't more than about one centimetre away from a wall. Even the most incredible thing for me, actually, was not the most impressive, but as he's coming towards the line and how close he is, he's not even really doing a corner at that point,

but to the inside of that wall, just to get as many thousands of a second as he possibly can, unbelievable. So he fully deserved the pole position. The race itself, yeah, he just managed it as he needed to. And I think provided, you know, if the race had stayed dry, obviously it had been on the hard tire for the second stint, which was the seemed to be the better tire.

So I think he was fully set in that regard. I mean, proving the point that I don't think the medium tire was the better tire. I know he gapped Alonzo pretty well in that first stint, but Perez, up until the point that he caught the likes of Stroll and Magnuson and that lot, he cut into Vastappen's lead pretty quickly. So from memory, I think it was about 35 seconds when Perez came out of the pits and he went on to the hard tires. He managed to bring that down to about 25 seconds,

at which point he caught Landstrel and Magnuson, and it extended out to about 50 seconds in about six laps. but I think that just proves the point as well that he did a great job on those medium tires and they weren't easy to manage. But I can't really summarize it any better than you did with the first thing you said, which is he's pretty good at the F1.

It's, yeah, and I know I'm the head of the Fernando Alonzo fan club, but Alonzo's been on pretty ridiculous form this year, especially yesterday. and I was convinced that lap he did at the end of Q3. I was like, no one's being that. That's the one. And yet Vastappen still pulled it out of the bag. So I think that, you know, I know Alonzo's getting on a bit,

but I think he's actually a pretty good place in his career in terms of performance. So it's doubly impressive. Okay, we're going to take our first quick break. On the other side, we'll be discussing Ocon and Alpine's first podium of the season. And we'll also give our driver of the day. and worst driver of the day. This Giving Tuesday, Cam H is counting on your support.

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Donate today at camh.caps.ca. Flash Giving Tuesday. It's been a while since we've had a podium from someone who isn't a Red Bull, a Ferrari, a Mercedes, or Fernando Alonzo. In fact, it's the first time since Imala of last year. So we're talking over 12 months when Lando Norris scored a podium for McLaren. That's the last time someone like an Alpine has managed to get inside the top three. But Esteban Ocon, not only qualified there, he finished there as well.

A lot of pressure from the likes of Carlos Seines in the first stint and Lewis Hamilton in the second stint. but he held them off, seemed to be pretty consistent throughout the day, and ultimately, Esty Besty's on the podium, baby! As said by Ockon himself. What did you make of his performance, firstly, Ari? And secondly, is there any chance

that there is any repeats for Alpine this year? He said Esty Besty's going to be on the podium, baby. That's a disqualifiable offence in my book. Yeah. Disgusting behaviour from Esteban Okon. That aside, very impressed by him this weekend. Mercedes have actually just lodged a complaint against that line.

Fair. Because it's awful. Yeah. But, you know, he's excited. I might let it slide at some point. But for now, don't ever do that again, Estaband. Stop it.

Stop it. Yeah, he was, well, he took pole at one point yesterday. Didn't see that one coming. And from, you know, from there, you had to think he was going to have a good race. and I enjoyed that he, I know they didn't get on very well

towards the end of last year or last year at all, but he employed his former teammates' tactic of just backing everyone up. I'm not going to do anything apart from just back you up. Signs tried to ram him out the way. He gave it a good go, don't they? Good go. But it didn't work.

But yeah, and I know that's a Monaco characteristic, but he earned it on Saturday with that ridiculous lap he did. So that in itself is, itself is worthy of the podium you got. But I think the, I mean, the pressure on him all race, basically. If it wasn't signs, it was, it was Hamilton. And I think he kept Lewis Hamilton behind him in wet conditions now. I know, I know it's Monaco.

But Hamilton closed up a couple of times, but Ocon's bridged the gap out again. And I thought that was... Did the same thing in Japan last year, didn't he? Oh, you're a very good point. Yeah. So, you know, I know it was Monaco, but I'd have thought Hamilton might have got past him there, even if he did the same. the Mercedes as it is.

But yeah, I thought that was hugely impressive. Even with the Duff pit stop, they still managed to get out in front of Ferrari and we'll get on to them. Oh no, no. But, yeah, Ocker was hugely impressive.

And I know it's part of the part of Monaco that may be on pace, they didn't deserve to be on the podium. But as I say, he nailed it in quality yesterday. And to be fair, both Alpines were pretty quick. I know Gassley wasn't quite as high up as Ockham was, but some better pace from them this weekend. So they'll be pleased.

I guess they'll be hoping that's not just the one-off Monaco special and then it translates into performance for the rest of the season. But yeah, very, very impressed by Ockon. It was a bloody top race from him. It was indeed. I mean, the qualifying performance was brilliant. I think him and Gassley were fairly well matched throughout practice

and the first few qualifies. sessions and it just seemed as if Q3 he managed to pull out those extra couple attempts to get him that provisional poll. Like you said, Gassley was impressive all weekend long as well, but Ocon seemed to have that very slight edge that gave him that provisional poll. And I don't know whether to call this unlucky. Unlucky doesn't feel like the right word, but Alpine played a strategy that if we had exactly the same as last year's qualifying would have got Ocon onto pole position.

You know, they were banking on a late red flag. which at Monaco more than possible, not only more than possible, it happened 12 months ago. You know, they set their fastest lap time with a few minutes to go in the session. If anyone,

Verstappen, Alonzo, one of the Merckes that was going around right at the very end of that Q3 session, any of them go into a barrier. Ocon has pole position. So I appreciate, in hindsight, it's difficult to say, but I think they actually went ahead

with the right call there. And just on another, on another race weekend, even like if you considered last time out in Miami, it could have actually resulted in an Ockon poll. I was so ready with Laplan, so ready with Laplan. But even so, I was panicking. LePogeum Leplan.

It did actually come through somewhat. I know it's been a few races into the year. Alpine alluring everyone into a false sense of security because Ocon is finally here to prove. that Leplan reigns supreme, starting with the third place. We're going to ignore the L plan finished second, but Leplan on the podium. What a great race it was.

What a great race, because there were so many incidents, a lot of which we'll probably get into in terms of our worst driver of the day. There were so many incidents and crashes and going deep into Mirabot and so many incidents against other drivers. Ocon, he was asked, he was asked by DC when he was being interviewed after the race hit any walls today? Nah.

He must have been the only one that didn't. He just again, it's similar to Japan last year but Ocon is just so solidly consistent when he needs to be and this was a situation where he needed to be he pulled it out the bag whether it is a one-off or not

remains to be seen. My instinct is it might be but I hope I hope it carries on and they can start to get into the fight because if we can get into a position where at least in qualifying we could have like almost all of Q3 be a battle for pole.

That sounds good to me. Oh yeah. Because to your point, Harry, and again we'll get on to this. Qualifying was pretty good. That was good fun. And it's because we didn't have two drivers capable of pole.

We had probably seven, which is great to see. Estabana Ockon deserves all the Pulaudits for this race. There have been times in the past where I've been harsh on him and I don't think he's come out of his shell enough and he hasn't lived up to some of the potential

that perhaps he had in his earlier years of F1. But races like today prove that he is absolutely deserving of a place on the grid and on his day he can mix it with the best. He can mix it with the best. With that, should we review some bold predictions? Oh yes, we

shit. You're quite keen for this, which is the first time ever you've been keen for this segment. So, let's review bold predictions. Firstly, Sam, unfortunately Sam can't be here today. We can blame the trains in the UK for that one. But we'll at least review his bold prediction, which was a two-parter. Now, part of it was that Monaco was going to be the best race of the season so far,

which I would have been more than happy to give him a point for. unfortunately, he decided to add something on the end of it, which is that Fernando Alonzo would also win the Grand Prix. So the opinion of whether it was the best race of the season or not is kind of irrelevant because I'm pretty certain Alonso didn't win that race. So Sam remains on one point. This is where we might get more debatey. I said that there would be a strategic blunder that caused Charles Leclair to miss out on positions

or something like that. A strategy decision did cause him to lose a place to George Russell. But I don't know whether, can we call it a blunder? I'm willing to, I'm happy either way

on this one, quite honestly. Is this because they had to double stack, right? Is that why? Well, even that, they were out on the dry tires

after. Oh yeah, they were the last. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I don't know. It's close.

I'm reaching here. I want to be kind, but I just don't know if it's enough. Should we do a poll? It's a strategic mishap, for sure. It's a mishap, yeah. Is it a blunder? I think they made bigger blunders than that race

and it didn't involve Charlotte Claire. I don't know. Do you know what? Let's say maybe. We'll come back to that. We'll do a poll. So I may be on one. I may be on two points for the season.

And now, Harry, of course, on zero. Here we go. No more. Thank you. Thank you, FIA. Yeah, oh, yeah. Harry's now big friends with the FIA because it's only the FIA

that actually managed to give him the correct prediction here, which was, of course. Yeah, my, my ball prediction was five different teams in the top five in qualifying. And I was, again, I thought I was going to be painfully close but no cigar after both Rarias got in, were in the top five and Hamilton was sixth. But then, Charles LeClair decided to do three miles an hour in the tunnel and held up Lando Norris, which if they hadn't made Ardabunuch, I'd have been fuming on either, well, both points. A, that that didn't get a penalty because it's slammed dug, but B because then it also meant my ball protection was right. But don't worry, the FIA pulled through. They made the right call. And LeCle got its penalty, which meant that Hamilton got P5 in Kauley. And they had five different teams. I'm on the board.

well done thank you thinking about it I mean my bold prediction didn't include qualifying at all but if it did

I think I'd probably be right because I think Ferrari have actually cost Leclair a podium in that he'd have been clear of Ocon

if it weren't for and I know Leclair impeded Norris but it wasn't you know that that's usually on the team rather than the driver

and then of course yeah if they're pitted him a lap earlier he's probably on the podium right now instead he was not I'm sorry well done to the three of us though

I think all you've got yours right mine is potentially right and Sam's at least half right so you know we've had weekends where they have all been

horribly wrong yeah I think this has been one of our best weekends well done us well done us a rare a rare dubia for the three of us

good old dub driver of the day who've you got gonna play the jingle oh yeah Where is it? Oh God. Please hold folks.

This one. The verdict is in. You're the driver of the days. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. My drive of the day. Hard to look past. Maxi Vestap, isn't it?

I'd love to give it to Fernando. I think he drove excellently well. But Vastap one was just very good. Ocon obviously is another strong content. but I'll go for the obvious one because I'm going first. So Max for Stappen. For once, I wasn't actually going to give it to the obvious one. Because I think I've given it to Max for Stappen

nearly every race this year so far. Realistically, not quite a contender, but Lewis Hamilton probably couldn't have done any more than what he did, apart from get by Esteban Okon, but we know that overtakes a tricky at Monaco. And then realistically, yeah, that any one of the top three could have, won this. And I think the voting actually reflected that because we saw it pop up a couple of times

where there was a percent or two between those top three drivers. I am going to give it to Esteban Okon. I think he soaked up the pressure behind really well. And yeah, in a day where nearly everyone made at least one or two errors, including, you know, including Max Verstappany at that error at Portia, of course. But Ocon seemed to stay error free. And that's what that's what caused him to get on the podium. so I will give it to him. Worst driver of the day. There's a few, there's a few contenders here.

There is, better with. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. Ben, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. You suck at driving. There's a lot of contenders here, as you said. We can be in for a long time.

We did. Oof, size large. Lance Stroll. now look in my before the before both weekends now obviously amelia romanii didn't didn't happen this weekend i said he needed to step up a bit compared to his teammate i know he was i don't think he listened no i know he was in unlucky in qualifying because he got damage and that meant he went out and that's you know your weekend over but in before that he didn't look like he was on the pace of fernando for being honest so he's a strong one oh sorry and then

in the race he just he hit everything and everyone mainly kevin magnuson k magneson like leave me alone. Stop. Leave K-Mag alone. The crash he had at Lowe's in the wet when he drove into the barrier and then drove into the barrier. Again, it's like, I've done that on the F-1 game.

Come on, come on, Lance. So he's up there. Well, Sergio, not great from you, son, all weekend. I guess, if you can count qualifying. Who was the other one I had on my Minkay Mag as well? Why are you staying out of slicks? Banner.

What are you doing? What you do, mate? Pure banter. Yeah, it's a, it's a real tricky one. I'll go with Lance, because he needed a good weekend and he had the opposite of. And I know some of it wasn't really his fault, but today was, I guess it's just pent up frustration. But, oh, I forgot his move at Lowe's on lap one as well.

Yep, that happened. I forgot about that one. Yeah, all right. I'll go for lunch. Sorry, mate. Yeah, you're right. There are a lot of contenders. There were some good driving out there today.

There was a lot of bad driving out there today as well. To run you through the four names that I had written down on this, and there are a lot of commonalities between Harry's list and Mike. Sergio Perez. Now, I appreciate Perez is, we very strictly give out driver of the day rather than the weekend. If it was the weekend,

Perez might be even more of a contender. But in terms of the day itself, he did everything he needed to up until the point where he drove into Landstrol and caused front wing damage and suddenly his master plan of pitting on the first lap and then not pitting again

was completely and utterly undone. So Perez, is definitely a contender for this. Logan's corporal, that wasn't good. When you get to the point where you are going around on soft tires and your team are training you

in terms of how to deal with graining, your race hasn't gone very well if you're already at that point halfway through. It was not a good race weekend for him whatsoever. I'll throw another name that I don't think you mentioned in as well. Carlos Sines. Oh, yeah. Sorry.

Just poor, man. I mean, that move with, that move with S van Ockon. I appreciate late breaking, of course. But that is another realm. Like, come on, man. That was never on. I think Martin Brunnell might have referred to it as a 50-50. A 1090 at best, maybe?

there was never a chance he was making that move work. I thought he managed the race poorly. But I am going to agree with Mr. Harry Yead because Landstrol might have delivered one of the worst race weekends for a driver I've seen in a very long time. That was shockingly bad. Now I appreciate some of the other performances

outside of the top 10 weren't great, Kevin Magnuson and Sargent to name a couple, but their strong. for points even if they have a good day. You know, you've got Esteban Okon in third, in an Alpine, and you've got his teammate in second place. It's not a great look when your teammate is in second place, and you're struggling around, going deep at Mirabot,

crashing the car twice within the space of five seconds, trying a move on lap one around the outside of Lowe, which might be the most ambitious thing man has ever done after trying to get to the moon in 1969. and there are others as well that I can't even remember. Yeah, it was, how do you summarize it outside of it was awful? Apologies. Not ideal, but it was.

He was my worst driver today. And the last one for now, big brain strap. What have you got? I mean, Ferrari, people may be mistaken to, thing that I was on their pit wall today because they just, boy, they couldn't make a mind. Their mind's up. Box now, stay out. Box now, stay out.

That, for me, is, yeah, that was terrible. I guess another contender is that Aston Martin decision to go on slicks, another set of slick for Alonzo. I'll go with Ferrari. I mean, this award was designed for Ferrari and they lived up to it with that one. And I guess you can throw in that they just didn't pit. the last one is to pit onto wet later on the race

so I'll go for that because I think the signs stay out pit stay out thing that made me that may me chuckle so I'll go for that one so I've picked my big brain strategy for this so generally speaking when the track is dry you want to be on dry

tires and when the track is wet you want to be on wet tires and if it's somewhere in between that you want to be on intermediate tires Okay, I'll give you that one for free. Ben's top tips to F1. I hope someone from Hasse is listening. Kevin Magnuson was on hard tires

when you couldn't tell the difference between the track and the C. Honest, the Lois Hairpin and Mirabot and that sort of area down to 48 was absolutely soaked. And there's Kevin Magnuson bravely trundling on

in those hard tires. going about 10 miles an hour. I appreciate the effort. I appreciate trying to do something different because where they are, there's not too much to lose. But there's a difference between trying something bold and trying something completely and utterly stupid.

And they very much hit the second of those two. And the worst thing is, they realized their error. Went on to the wet tires. But Magnuson managed to make it just one corner from home before having a proper smash into the wool. Oh, yeah. That coupled with the Nico Holkenberg penalty

that they just forgot to serve. I love that. If we just stay quiet, they won't notice. And to be fair, I didn't notice. I completely forgot. So well done to someone from the FIA for actually being aware enough that they did need to serve that penalty

and they didn't. But yeah, maybe I should just extend And it to Hass because, yeah, P17 and the DNF doesn't read well. It's not a great look. It's not a great look. Not so much. We'll take our next short break. We'll be discussing Sergio Perez and his pointless weekend right after this.

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Find an agent today at dejerdin.com slash business coverage. So whereas there was joy for one, Red Bull, Max Verstappen taking the race win by a very comfortable distance, it wasn't quite as good on the other side of the garage. Sergio Perez, after a crash in Q1 of course. qualifying started last place on the grid and it didn't get a great deal better from there. Ultimately, having five pit stops and finishing P-16 on the track, which of course led to absolutely zero points. Now, of course, the championship leaders extended out much, much further in the direction of

Max for Snap and Harry, that was not a great weekend. Does the result reflect how poor it actually was? What were your thoughts? all his all his um all his work was well i guess undone uh when he when he smashed it into the barriers at sandova i mean there was that was weekend over he yes i know it got worse in the race and his his we've seen it before you people that start the back in monaco they often do that switch to the hard tire immediately on lap one and then just plod around for the rest of the race waiting for everyone else to get out the way and pit and they might pick up a few points um It does work, but, you know, that still would have meant he'd still be far behind Max in the, in the championship. So for Cheka, this was, yeah, this was all done, all undone, as I say, in quality. And it was, it was game over from there. So I know he didn't, he didn't particularly look like he had quite at the pace to match Vastappen,

but you've got to be in it to win it. And it could have, you know, he could well have been in the, in the fight for Pau, which meant he meant he would have been in the fight for the win potentially. so he just he wrote himself out of the out of the picture immediately in Q1 so it was it was not it's not a not great weekend for as we talked about it so much in the preview about him being a street circuit specialist oh sam is what is to blame for this as soon as he uttered the words mr street circuit ruined it for him and then he goes and does that so yeah for For Checo, that's going to be a painful weekend to watch back because he knew immediately

that he was sort of sat in the carth quite a while, I guess, in disbelief that he'd done it. But he knew from then that it was game over. There wasn't, you know, he had to hope basically for Verstappen not to score as many points, which is a weird one, I guess, for your teammate. But that was his only hope after that. He was never going to recover. So bad weekend for Checo. It's humiliating enough to be lapped by your teammate once.

to be lapped by your teammate twice. Ooh, that's not a great look. Yeah, this was, as you say, most of this was undone on Saturday because even if he hadn't crashed into the back of Landstrol in the race today, and let's say that Red Bull absolutely nailed the switch to the intermediate tire later on for Paris.

I don't think he'd have scored points anyway. I think he was probably, maybe he could have got one of the McCarons for a P-10 or something like that, but it didn't seem as if anything was more available. If we look at the race exclusively just for a moment from Perez's perspective, the first part of the race, he pretty much did spot on. I understood what Red Bull went for in terms of the strategy, in terms of pinning him straight away,

and then hopefully undercutting a load of drivers ahead of him. I understood why they went that direction. and at least for the first 10 laps, it worked a treat because, as mentioned earlier on the show, he was 35 seconds behind Max Verstappen after the first lap and the first pit stop. He managed to get that down to about 25 seconds.

So there was one point, I was kind of calculating it on the fly, there was one point that if everyone ahead of him had come into the pits, he would have landed in a net P3 at one point. the problem is as soon as he caught up to Lanchstrol and more accurately the Williams drivers who were holding up Lansdrol and later Perez

that gap then just extended right back out again that gap to Vastappen became 25 seconds and then soon enough I think it was lap 15 and the gap was 50 seconds I'm like, how on earth has that happened? And then you see the graphic come up to say that Perez is three to four seconds a lap slower than Vestappen.

Now in reality, Perez is pace was not that bad. It's just that with Monaco, you do get stuck behind drivers and you can't do much in terms of showing your real pace. It's why he was so quick before he caught up to those drivers. So in the race itself, up until the point where he smashed into the back of Manstrol, I think he did everything he could. Obviously, the incident itself with Stroll, which, you know, very easily avoidable. He almost, was it Stroll again? He almost clipped a few laps before that. I thought he drove into the back of Magnuson and then Stroll came through. Oh, sorry.

But it was, those three were all together all afternoon, it felt like. Yeah, it could have been Magnuson, sorry. But he did, he had another near miss, didn't he, when he fought Stroll pushed him off, which. Oh, yeah, that was another one. Yeah. I'm not quite sure what he was on about with that. But, yeah.

So the race itself, up until that point, was okay. You're right. Qualifying was the absolute downfall for Perez. I cannot understand, and I appreciate I'm sat here in my room and not out in Monaco driving an F1 car. So if you want to say, I don't get it, fair enough. But the risk factor versus reward just was, there was no sense to that Q1 crash. He went way too hot into the first corner, into Sandovaat, right? I was never stopping.

Never stopping. As far as I'm aware, I could be wrong on this as well. There wasn't a lockup, was there? It was just... Just too fast. Yeah. It might still be trying to stop, actually. But why was he pushing so hard?

His objective at that point was not even set a lap that's good enough to get into Q2. His objective at that point is set a banker lap quick enough that he's got a banker if he needs it. As we know, his lap time before that was good enough for P20 when the round. ramping up at the track or occurred afterwards. So at that point in the session, he's not even setting what will end up being his quickest lap of Q1. There's just no, with that car, with his ability, the risk versus reward standoff, the trade-off,

just didn't make any sense to me. Now, we've already spoken of Verstappen's Q3 lap. He absolutely risked it in sector three of Q3 on his last. slap. But there's sense. There's logic to that. Where was the logic to being so on the limit midway through Q1? Don't, I don't understand. I've also just realized Alonza's only 12 points off him. 12. That is too close. It's far too close considering the car. Yeah. I'd be, boy, he should be worried. Yeah. I mean, that's not, that's crazy to think a couple of races. ago we're talking about is a championship effort on the cards for Sergio Perez.

We're now looking at a situation where he is three times closer to Alonzo than he is to Vestappen. That's with a second place that he got last time. Yeah. Good one, Checo. Oof. Yeah, this. Do you remember, I mean, a lot of people are going to be absolutely unaware that we ever did

this, but we used to do a racing league. And we, every time we went to Monaco, we, we'd almost do a bit of an internal challenge of who's going to have the most pit stops. I think Perez thought he was in the league. Yeah, fair. That's a good reference there for the OGs. It's on YouTube. Go watch it.

I reckon about 1% will understand the reference, but that's what we're here for. Yeah, we hear you. In summary, 20th to 16th in the race didn't look good, and it was right to not look good because he wasn't very good. Good. That's a great conclusion. I love it. Are we all happy with that?

Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Another, let's get on to Monaco itself. Because as we know, the three of us, to summarize our viewpoints on Monaco, Harry loves Monaco like it's his own son. It is my son. Sam hates Monaco as if Sam was Harry's son.

If that makes sense. And I'm maybe some of, somewhere in the middle, possibly closer to Sam's point of view, but not quite as far as he is. Now, we've had some dull Monaco races in the past. Firstly, what do you make of today's race, including the rain, excluding the rain, does it have a case to be the best race of the season so far? I think I've already said this, but even excluding the rain, I feel like we're actually having and I know people will be like, yeah, but an okay race at Monaco is actually a dull race. but I was enjoying the race before the rain arrived

because it was, as I said, we had some dive bombs, if you want to call them overtakes, but they were dive bombs everywhere, which was quite enjoyable. I thought the tyres, the tyres situation was actually quite interesting, and I guess we never really saw that play out at the front entirely, but the...

More things than usual. Way more deck, but that allowed for some of the overtakes we saw, you know, when sergeant, who's not learned what graining is apparently yet, but he's working on it. but because of that, you know, we had some action in the, in the midfield or the lower end of the midfield. Obviously, science gave it a go, but it didn't quite work.

So I was enjoying that. And actually, that strategy element, I was intrigued to see how that was going to play out. I think this happens to how it covered. But it was sort of ebbing and flowing, wasn't it? Well, you weren't quite sure how, how that was going to pan out. So I was enjoying it. Obviously, the rain made it even more, made it better. Just the carnage that ensued when that rain fell was great.

I'm obviously going to defend Monaco until I die I'm going to die on this hill but for me, the race aside I don't care qualifying yesterday for me is why Monaco deserves this close on the calendar and I don't, you know,

I know people will say that it's, I say people, Sam, we'll say, well, yeah, but what about, you know, the race? But it's such a unique, it's such a unique challenge that, you know, maybe qualify, yeah, qualifying maybe is the,

the more exciting part of the Monaco GP weekend. But so what? It was insane yesterday. I'm shook us by it still. I just could quite believe what I was watching. So for me, that alone means that Monaco still deserves a place on the calendar. Yes, the race was more interesting. F1.

Tired egg makes good racing. It's good. For goodness sake. Come on. So, yeah. I obviously will defend it till I die, but I actually think this justification. I think the Monaco qualifying alone is enough to keep it on the calendar.

It's a ridiculous spectacle to watch. Really random one. I was just thinking back, do you remember where before the race started? It feels like two days ago, but before the race started. And Martin Brundle grabbed a quick word with the head of Pirelli, who I can't immediately remember the name of.

Yeah, everyone was starting. sauce. What are you talking about, mate? What are you talking about? Everybody's going to start on the soft tires. One person did, I think. It was Joe Guanyu. So I don't think anyone else touched them. It's a real worry. He's the head of Pirelli. I just thought that was hilarious. Also, another random, completely unrelated point. James Vows, can we have him every week? That man. He is so far clear of everyone else. He is in that spot. His brain is massive. I just, brain valves. Yeah.

B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, V. Um, he, yes, I loved him on the, having him on the Skype, all this weekend. Yeah, so for people who don't watch Sky, you know, camera Sky, he was the, they kept throwing to him a few times during the race and during qualifying. But he, his way of, his, his way of explaining things and how they happen. The one that got me was when they were taught, this might have been through practice, but, um, Albon had a, he shunted in, in Q1. sorry, in FP1.

And then they were talking about since signs shunted in F.E. 2, 3? Anyway, another practice session. They're talking to him. And he's just like, yeah, that's totally different. Like Alex has gone away in decarpt, how to say that, decompartmentalised it.

And his brain is massive. And, but he doesn't make you feel stupid, which is a massive valuable, valuable character there. I just think he adds so much more than the other team principals do in that sport. And that's not say, James Vos is better at his job,

but just in terms of, for the viewer, I just thought he was so far clear of everything we've ever had before from other team principals doing the same job. I agree. When I have Guntherstainer, it's basically Crofty doing bad jokes at him and Gunther's like, go away. Otmar would rather be anywhere else in the world than talk to Crofty. You know, Christian Horner is Christian Horner.

He's good TV. But you're right, James Viles, the best one. The best one. Yeah, so there was actually two completely separate points from what we're actually talking about here. But anyway, Monaco in terms of its place on the calendar. So the race itself, I think, was pretty good. Now, in terms of the rain, is it a stroke of luck? Yes, it is.

But, you know, leaving itself out amongst the tracks, generally speaking. So, you know, it was. But I agree. with you, even without the rain, I think it was for a Monaco race, very good, for a normal race, okay to pretty good, is

what I'd probably say. Yeah, I think a lot of it was down to the Williams drivers, just holding everyone up and drivers having to try and get past, but there is a point in here that, and I don't think Monaco's the answer, because I think it's too far

the opposite end of the spectrum. But we do know what it looks like the other end of the spectrum where that race, DRS passes, right? Perez is back into the top 10 within a matter of five laps. But drivers like Perez and Stroll, who are clearly quicker than where they were on the track, and even the likes of signs and the Mercedes who were having to try and get past the Alpine, they would have been able to make those moves so easily with DRS on other tracks. here they had to work for them and they had to look at,

they had to analyze these situations and say, is the chance good enough for me here? Carlos Sainz had to try and chuck and move up the inside of Esteban Okon when it absolutely wasn't on. There is no way he tries that move at any other circuit because he'll get DRS on the next straight and it'll just be able to get past before the breaking zone. So I think there is a point.

And I, like I say, I'm not Monaco's biggest fan. and I think Monaco is too much the other way. But certainly it was good to see drivers having to work for overtakes because they shouldn't be slam dunks. So I was happy to see that. I do think it was a solid race season, even without the rain. Of course, the rain added a lot more entertainment to it. But I think it would have been okay even without that.

To your point, qualifying was electric. That might be my favourite qualifying session ever. Maybe there's one or two that I are up there as well that I just can't remember because of, you know, is in the short term this Monaco result. But yeah, that was thrilling action for an hour. I do think that despite that, I do think that qualifying, the point of qualifying is to act as the supplement to the race itself. So if qualifying is more entertaining than the race, then I don't think you've got the recipe for a brilliant weekend. I still think the race should be the number one source of the entertainment,

which Monaco doesn't provide on a normal case. This has helped Monaco in terms of my opinion of it. If I still had to choose tomorrow, do I keep it or lose it? I'm still saying lose it. But if we can have more Monaco Grand Prix like we saw today, that's a step in the right direction. I'm going to unceremoniously pinch someone else's points here. apologies, but on your point about having to work for overtakes, but not necessarily getting them done,

I argue it's 100 times more entertaining than having a 100 DRS passes. So this point is Nick from Tom Bellingham from the P1 podcast. So I'll award myself a yellow card for this because we don't allow other podcasts on here. That's a joke. That's a joke. But he was making the point on their podcast that, so Ben, I'll do the same with you, unless you've already seen the clip. seen this clip anyway I have not

2016 Monaco GP what do you remember about that the pit stop incident exactly everyone talked about Danny Ricardo pitstop incident 2016 Chinese GP what do you remember about that

there were a lot of overtakes the most overtakes ever in Formula 1 history but can you tell me what happened in that race apart from lots of overtakes no I can't but this is that this is not my point

his point but I agree with it you can have a gazillion overtakes in one race but actually is it is it what makes it an entertaining and memorable race people are going to shout to me for that I'm sure but I think it speaks to your point that it was more more memorable than than just having a slam dunk DRS pass

and as you say Paris would have been back up there in no time as we saw with Vastappen in like Miami or we saw with him in spa last year we came from blast. So, again, I will die on this hill, but I think there is some merit. I agree with the larger point.

Like I say, I think Monaco is still... It's an extreme example. Yeah. And to be honest, I don't think it's the actual track itself. I think it's the size of the cars. Well, look at a Formula E race around there.

The cars are like half the size of a Formula One car, and you get some... Well, they overtake all the time. So, yeah, yeah. I watched Formula E Monaco this year, which I didn't finish. I didn't finish it. But they've done a few races around the full circuit there

and there's been a few belters. So you're right. I think I agree with you on that point. Also, we're going off a lot of tangents here. I think the enjoyment of this race was helped enormously by the fact that it was F1's TV coverage and not Monaco's. So much better. I mean, some really cool new angles.

The helicopter shows. shot. Chef's Kiss, love that. But we just saw the action when it was, when it was happening. And I don't know, F1 don't always get that right. But for the most part, even if they missed it, because there was so much going on of that carnage, they still got the replays back up and you saw what happened. Yeah, I think I said this before.

It was going to be a pump the brakes, but I think Monaco has been done a disservice over the years. Yes, it still isn't the best race in the world in terms of entertainment. But I think we, it's made to seem, it's been made to seem worse by the fact that the TV coverage has been garbage. So hopefully that's, that will stay. I think it will. Quick one before we go to our last ad break, rate in the race out of ten?

Seven and a half. Same for me. Seven and a half. There you go. We're in agreement. Yeah, pretty good one. And I think two Sam's bold prediction, probably the best one we've had so far this year.

Agreed. Okay, we'll have our last short break. On the other side, we'll be looking at our moment of the race, including some Discord submissions. Black Friday is here at IKEA, and the clock is ticking on savings you won't want to miss. Join IKEA family for free today and unlock deals on everything from holiday must-haves

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Before we get into our lovely listeners Discord submissions about what the moment of the race was, we will give our own submissions. So starting with you, Harry, what did you pick out? There are probably quite a lot to choose from. There are so many to choose from. I actually had to start writing notes down in on my phone

because there was so much happening. I'm definitely missing some. some absolutely vintage George Russell team radio again this race. Spitting. It's spitting. But the one that made me cackle the first time, which probably his first one, was I think Gaz, I reckon Gazley's trying to back me up here.

I'm sure why. I'm like, am I, George? What are you doing, Pierre? Oh, man. Yeah, he was on top one. There was another one as well. Like, oh, the one about, The one about

can you let me in front of Lewis but I won't go five seconds in front of him. Yeah, all right, George. Negotiating. Yeah, so that one was good. The one that made me also Yelp was

Nikko Holkenberg into Mirabow on lap one. That was aggressive. Want to use your break, son? That was... No, no, the break is called Logan Sargent. Oh yeah, sorry. When I watched the Logan Sargent on board,

that was... And yeah, he was... It was human, wasn't he, Logan? So that was another one. for me and there's one more which I hadn't written down and I've forgotten what it is. Oh no. Anyway, there were a lot. I'll go for George Russell's team radio because it really made me cackle this race.

Yeah, my moment of the race that I've got written down here, very similar to yours. Chapter probably 50 of George Russell's radio negotiations. I love them so much. any potential way that he can gain an advantage, he's on it. He, baby Alonzo, baby Alonzo, he is so on it in terms of ways that he can possibly gain an advantage.

Honestly, just, it got to a point where obviously LeClau was far too, he was 10 seconds plus back, so it didn't end up mattering. But he was like, oh, you know, can I go past Lewis Hamilton? You know, I won't go more than five. seconds ahead. So that means that I'll still be in the position behind. It makes sense for the team.

He was four seconds behind Lewis Hamilton. Do you really think? Sorry, I appreciate the effort, George. Do you really think that Bono is going to go over team radio and say, Lewis, just for the sake of the team, can you back up by four seconds and let your teammate pass? And he's got a penalty. So he promises he won't go more than five seconds ahead of you. I admire the effort. more than anything in the world, it properly made me laugh. Sorry, I remember the other one, and it was just a screenshot, basically,

but it's when Stroll and Russell decide they don't want to do Mirabot. Russell reverses out and then just drives in front of Perez, and there's the shot of Perez, Russell in the air and just behind in the, like parked up in Stroll. Like, these are the best drivers in the world. This is amateur hour.

It really made me laugh as well. It's been a lot of moments in there. A lot of moments. If I can extend it to the weekend for just one moment, if you haven't seen it, I'm Martin Brundall speaking to an 89-year-old photographer in the pits. Great one minute of content there. Some good stuff, some good stuff.

Should we hear what our Discord submitters have to say, though? All right, then. Please, I'll just scrolling back. Right. You lot. Here we go. First up is Real Dad, who was actually back. Yes.

Real Dad. is back with full effect. Monaco, 2023 moment of the race. My moment of the race is basically Magnuson and then Russell trying to take a shortcut in a dead end, which was rather funny.

Maybe they need sat down having their cars or something. But there you go. James, yours? My moment of the race is Lance troll literally playing bumper cars down just before a tunnel section. I mean, it is basically a go-karting circuit. It's so

narrow. There we go. Have a good one, guys, and Sam, yeah, wasn't a bad race, but now how you feel. See you, bye. Cheers, Real Dad. I just remembered another moment of the race for me, and I think it's going to come up,

but Yuki Sinoda implying that his team wanted to crash. These brakes suck! All right, Yuki, do you want to do some adjustments? No! You're trying to let me crash. Okay. All right, Yuki. Right, next up is

Hazer, who has got three friends with him, and they've had beer, apparently, so this can only end by it. Right, boys, we've got three for one, especially in moment of the race, Callum. The rain in it. Alex, moment of the race for you. The slipping and sliding. JJ, moment of the race.

Marcusin's sitting on the dry. He's got a pretty for sunshine, having you. Cheers, boys, thank you. Cheers, Hazer and friends. Oh, love it. The rain in it. Rain in it. Next up is Skyler, so a lengthy one here.

All the people sliding off when it started raiding. Yeah, that was pretty good, Scala. Yeah, if anyone had missed that, that's all the people sliding off when it started rating. So, cheers. Cheers for that. Next up is Hecty. My moment of the race is when Crofty was talking about the Haas

assumptions that Haas was making about sergeants slowing them down to help Elbin out. Audible, groan. So painful. Shut up, Crofty. He's probably not coming on now. Was that another did you do? Surely not. To be clear, the first one was,

other did you do either? I don't know what that one was. Right, next up is Treetorn. This is Treetorn from the heart of Bourbon Country. I have two moments of the race today. The first is beef pulling off the double denim. Never underestimate how difficult that is. The second was Yuki going deep into turn five

when he realized he was set to finish P.L. 11 again and refusing that energy. Long live Monaco. It really looked like he was going to finish either P10 or P11 yet again. Finally broke the streak. Give it a good go, didn't he? Yeah. Next up, SoCal Jen.

Hey, y'all. It's Jen from SoCal. My moment of the races is when I realized Ben is 100% right that Aston Martin is going to lose second place and the constructors due to Atlanta. stroll. Way to go, Ben. You're always right. Join the Patreon. That's a great point that. That was possibly my favorite submission of all time. Yeah, all right. Jen, please. We're talking about. Next up is All Good Always. Highly breaking. Well, another update to my last life update. Yes, it was South Korea. So you boys were spot on with your assumptions.

Moment of the race, probably all the cars turning into a slip and slide when the rain started come in, especially Lance Stroll. I mean the yellow and green flags going on and off. Just kind of just proved that he was just playing bumper cars at this point. Love you guys. Love the podcast. Bye. Next up, a couple more, joys that kill. It's probably a tie between the two Ferrari Pitches. stops the fake ones on lap 21 and 28 for signs.

I can guarantee some teams didn't think that they were joking because they're Ferrari. But also when Max was talking at the end of his race and the camera just slowly pans to Esteban O'Con like cheering like crazy with this team and Verstappen is trying to talk, those are both great. Also, I'm a plus one vote on Sam's prediction because this race has been pretty good. You were saved by the rain. It's a real shame that Fernando didn't win, Joy. yeah

Sam's love for the two-parter cost him here cost him dearly I mean he's probably watching the race as we speak now fuming no because he doesn't know that Alonzo has a one year oh yeah fair point

fair point anyway that'll do oh no oh god Beef 500 Beef 500 is here you need to get a move on because it's going to start soon

is it yeah yeah sorry right beef make it quick hello beef has actually been out today so I've only watched racing bits, life update, submitted my essay, being on a flying

Scotsman today, and I sat in a fire engine, so my morale is up again. But my favourite bit is, we basically went from, both from Booth's Dad to town, and my favourite bit was tuning back into the Grand Prix, seeing it was raining, not knowing what was going on, but it was

so clear that Ferrari had pitted much later than everyone else and came out with a P6 and P8. I love that for you guys. Okay, bye! Fire engine beef. Well, sticking with the number fee, maybe beef 99. Sorry, beef 999.

Or 911 if we're talking about America. Yeah. Excellent. Well, cheers for that. Thank you all for your submissions. There are actually loads for this week. Sorry if you didn't make it on, but we were inundated, which sign of a okay race. Indeed.

Appreciate them greatly. You're right, Harry, but we've managed to time this almost perfectly. Yes. As we are saying this, we are seven minutes away from the green flag dropping at the Indy 500. So we've managed to Monaco watch along. We've done this. And now we're going to go straight into indie. Good stuff. Oh, yeah, Sam can't do the outro. Oh, no. This is always a bad idea. Where do we drive people to? Social media. That's a good place to start. TikTok, Instagram, Twitter. Guess what? We're all three of them. You can find us on all of those. Discord. You'd have

heard the submissions today. And if you want to get involved in the chat going on there, the link will be in the description, as always. Join the Patreon was a feature of at least one Discord submission. You can join the Patreon. We've got a number of tiers available to you. And five-star reviews? Five-star reviews. Leave us a five-star review.

We like those a lot, unsurprisingly. And don't worry, Sam will be back, who does these outroes far better than myself or Harry could ever do them. He'll be back midweek, where we will, of course, be previewing the Spanish Grand Prix, which of course features the greatest turn one. in the history of motorsport. I mean, more excitingly, the Spanish GP with the altered

altered final corner. Let's go. Let's have it. Could be a good race. Maybe not. Yeah. It'll be good. Don't worry. So yeah, we'll be back for the preview

and of course the review of that in one week's time. Thank you very much for listening. I've been Ben Hocking. And I've been Harry Eat. And remember, keep breaking late. Sam, you're so much better at those. Yeah.

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