The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2024 Belgian GP Qualifying Review

Episode Date: July 27, 2024

Note: you may notice a slight dip in audio quality based on this episode not being recorded in our usual set up. Thank you for your understanding. Ben and Sam review the wet Spa Qualifying that saw L...eclerc inherit pole from Verstappen who dominated session but faces a 10-place engine penalty in tomorrow's race. The boys run through the grid including a front row start for Perez, a tougher day for McLaren, and Q3 appearances for the Aston Martin of Alonso and the Alpine of Ocon... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes, historic race reviews & more! JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: SIGN UP & create your team, and JOIN our league (join code: C3PHEQHPU04) BUY our Merch SEND us something! We have a brand new PO box - address: Late Braking Podcast, PO Box 821, TRURO TR1 9PE EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Sam's Age and me, Ben Hocking. Now, you might not be able to see this, but this might be the strangest conditions we've ever done a podcast in. Yeah, we've done live shows. Kirstie's doing a little thing now. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm in full Freddie Mercury drag wearing high hills. Ben, you've got an outfit in the other room. Yeah, I've played this better. You have. We're in a party room and we're here to disco, but actually we've got to do a podcast first. Honestly, if you ever question our dedication to this podcast again, I will have none of it.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Harry Seng's massive apologies. He's being, I'm royally shafted by the British transport system. Yeah, come on. British? British? Sorry. It's a good start. It begins with be.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Belgian. Belgian qualifying. review today. So, what seems to be custom now, wet weather qualifies. Why is it always raining? So wet. All the time. Max Verstappen at least claimed the fastest time, but we know that he'll have a 10 place grade penalty, so he'll start from 11th tomorrow, meaning seemingly out of nowhere, Shao LeCler, who qualified second, will start from Pol. Yeah, this happened exactly the same last year as well. And Perez once again, promoted from third to second again. It's a repeat,
Starting point is 00:01:43 direct repeat at the top three. Shocks that Ferrari have been able to somehow... Well, when I say Ferrari, I mean just the Clare. Science will be down at the eighth place. I got to start seventh, of course. Which looked like where they should have been. Perfectly acceptable. And I said to you when we were watching the qualifying.
Starting point is 00:01:56 This is a driver can make the difference kind of condition. And maybe LeCler, we know he absolutely blitzes it on a one-lap pace. He probably is the overall best qualifier in the field at the moment in terms of raw pace. And he just played it here today. He really managed to kind of put the pedal down when it needs to be. he masked the conditions and he will start the front. Whether he can actually hold on to that by the end of sector one could be a very different score.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, like you say, the driver can make a difference and the gaps were so slim when we got to really the third part of qualifying. So the first part of qualifying, it was just track was ramping up and faster and faster. You need to get running under your belt. But once we got through to the later part of the second session and the third session, it was mere temp separating five, six drivers.
Starting point is 00:02:44 So it is down to someone like Charles Leclair. He's had a difficult time as late. Ferrari have had a difficult time of late. Don't forget about old Chuckie. He can pull together a lap. Boy can drive. Boy can drive. I was really good at the qualifying. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:00 obviously it won't start from pole, but it would have been a one three for Red Bull, which a year ago might have been standard. Now that seems like it's a anomaly. Yeah, it's an uptick based on what they've had previously. That's That's got to be encouraging for them. The Stappan was mega, like a crazy gap between those guys.
Starting point is 00:03:19 He was never in. Never in doubt. Every single time you went out, it was another cut of tenths stacked on tour or was already a massive gap. Six tenths, I think it was, overall, which is mind-blowing when you've got the cars who have been so close together. Red Bull not the fastest for multiple races in a row now. We saw how they were at Hungary. We saw how they were at Silverstone. Nowhere did they look like they were dominant, like they were able to really outclass the field.
Starting point is 00:03:41 even with Verstappen's prowess that he has. But here, at Spa, it is his favourite racetrack. Maybe the new power unit is supplying a bit more power than we expected. Maybe it's giving him some extra oomte down the kind of Lecombe and across through Blanchemont. But I don't know if that's six tenths worthy of it. I think of that's, that's Max Verstappen, baby. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's what you pay him the big money for. Yeah. What about Sergio Perez? Because that's a far better qualifying position than what we've seen recently. he is essentially there when Max Verstappen can't be because of a penalty. Almost got knocked down in Q2 of course. It was overall a positive session?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, I don't care what happens in the previous sessions as long as at the end of qualifying, he ends up near the front, right? It doesn't matter what you do as long as you get there at the end. He has got there at the end. But weirdly, this is an exact replica of what he did last year in terms of form. The form was not good leading up to the Belgian Grand Prix, gets to the Belgian Grand Prix, has his only qualifying session where he qualifies inside the top five
Starting point is 00:04:40 for the rest of the season at the Belgian Grand Prix. He's done it again. First time inside the top five since what? China, Miami. Been a while. Yeah, it's been at least five or six Grand Prix if not longer than that now.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Sorry, guys, I've got a Prosecco. So my memory is not going to be particularly clear on Perez's qualifying record. But it's a turn of form. The issue is, can he maintain the form going into the summer break? Is this an uplift for him? We said the same last year, he was unable to.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It quickly rescinded back into being, you know, 8th, 10th, 11th, regularly. He actually needs it to be no further back than 5th moving forward. But for this one race alone, he starts on the front row, he's doing exactly what a teammate to Max Verstappen should be doing. People are going to hate me, but I, I think it was good because he is where he needs to be. The problem for Red Bull is it's largely what we had at the beginning of this season
Starting point is 00:05:30 and parts of last year where the gap is still six tenths or so between the two drivers. And we've had other races, certainly this year, where McLaren, Mercedes, Ferrari have been more competitive. So rather than being first and second or first and third, it becomes first and eighth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those other teams weren't there in between these two drivers. My worry is that if the gap itself was less, I would be more encouraged. I'm not saying it was a bad session for him by any stretch, but equally, it's still, I know Belgium for long lap, it's still a big margin between those two drivers. do you think that we've, like you say,
Starting point is 00:06:08 the fact that we saw basically from fourth place down to 10th place, the gap was about a 10th and a half. It was so small. Do you think realistically, if the cars are set up slightly better or it's a dry track that actually, the situation that Paris has found itself being
Starting point is 00:06:22 is more complimentary. Sorry, I've got a slight croaking my throat. More complimentary. Because of wetting herself in the corner of the room. Actually, then what his actual performance showed, do you think the reality of any other day if he did exactly the same thing, he being seventh, eighth night.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Maybe. I think the McLaren's would have been faster in dry conditions. Yeah. We'll get to that in a bit. But equally, yes, maybe he does drop a couple of positions or so. It's just if we, if we were to say, let's say, Lano Norris got pole position today. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And Oscar Piafrey was third. He was six times back. We're probably asking why he's six tens back. We're calling that a bad session, aren't we? The pace there is huge. I mean, to be fair, Hamilton and Russell, they're four, five tenths apart, right? that's bad from Russell. Leclair and Science.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like these gaps, like... They matter. Yes. And I just think, you know, if he holds on to second place tomorrow, if he gets Charles Leclair, if he ends up on the podium, then it's a good result. And the result is ultimately what matters. Yeah, the points matter. I just think you do have to sometimes look at the timings.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And it's a bit of an indicator for future races. It's the sort of thing where I think Red Bull can look at it and say, we've kind of seen this before. Yeah. And it doesn't end well when other teams catch up. Yeah, I think the worry, of course, is during the race, if the gap maintains at six-tenths to himself and Bastapen, if Mustafa has a clean getaway, has a successful Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:07:52 that gap is going to close very quickly between what is going to be 11th place and, of course, Perez, second. And if LeClau is able to fight with him and hold him up, if he falls behind Bastafin early on, it doesn't look good where he finishes, I don't think. No. We'll see how that goes. I definitely didn't come on here with the intention of bashing Perez, by the way. I know the other room. I heard you, I saw you building signs. I hate Perez. Wash. People probably think that. I really don't. It's just I would be, it would be a disservice not to say what I think about, you know, someone's session. We was trying to be very honest on the show. That's the point. McCarran, they were very quick in practice yesterday. Of course, slightly more dry conditions. Today, they were there, but certainly not where they were. Hungary. They were my shock of the session in the sense of I generally thought they'd be the ones
Starting point is 00:08:40 fighting Max for Staffen for that pole position. I thought, okay, if they can't beat Max, when Max takes that penalty, they're the two that are going to pick up the places, right? I put it in my bold prediction that they finish one, two. It looks very unlikely that this is going to happen now. Whilst they looked strong, the fact that Hamilton's beat both of them, Russell's right behind them, the Clers in front of them as well. Obviously, if the Staffan might have the page on them to catch him during the Grand Prix, it's not plain sailing. This dominant car that we've started to elusive with McLaren, clearly not a factor here as well. I think it shows where, you know, dry running and wet running can be so different.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And actually, McLaren have often gone almost the other way too much in other sessions where they have lent a bit too much into a potentially wet race. Silverstone happened, right? Yeah. I mean, Belgium. Yeah. Yeah. So I think they might have almost gone the other way because they were very quick yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I don't think they quite had it. in the wet conditions today. Based on the practice review idea yesterday, like the, you know, the timings of the long runs, there are only three cars who are very much out front in terms of outright pace. Max Verstappan and the two McClara. No one else in terms of yes, that it's practice at least,
Starting point is 00:09:52 which isn't always a true indicator. No other team or driver was close. Yeah, I think the worrying part for McLaurang here is, are they starting too far back? Can they capitalize? Obviously, we know that you can overtake around Spar. But if something was to happen that meant, I know, what if we get a shock shower halfway through the Grand Prix?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Is that enough to jeopardize themselves? The fortunate thing is they are in front of Max Verstappen, who I still think is their biggest competition for the wing, but can they get through maybe a resurgent Perez? The Clare who probably wants to pick up a race wing for the first one since Monaco. And Lewis Hamilton's going to want to do well. They've got cars in front of them that are going to be pushing them all the way. Is the car going to be quick enough to make the difference?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah. I mean, my instinct is that both McLaren's will have the pace to beat the cars in front of them. Sergio Perez is the one I'm unsure about who, and I didn't say this before, he is running an old spec, so that that definitely factors in. But I think based on what I saw in practice yesterday,
Starting point is 00:10:45 those two should, the McLare and Eros should have enough to beat the cars in front. What is more of a concern now is, I thought that based on that pace, they would have a good chance of starting one, two, and just happen in 12, 14 or something. Instead, because they haven't had the best qualified session today,
Starting point is 00:11:01 let's say one of them gets a poor start and drops two positions and the staffen gets a good start and gains two or three. They're right against each other. Yeah, immediately. And that gap disappears very quickly with one good start and one bad start. Do you think that Hamilton has outqualified his car there? Do you think actually Russell is more where the car probably should be on basic average form when Hamilton's done a good job of being in front of the McLaren's or other McLaren's let themselves down with the setup?
Starting point is 00:11:24 I'm not too sure because at least based on the practice session yesterday, I didn't think there was much separating Ferrari and Mercedes, but I thought they were comfortably behind the parents of the Stappas. But we know that Mercedes are playing around a bit with, you know, their car, their upgrades. They got rid of the upgrades, right? They both got back to the previous version. Exactly. So in that sense, the practice times might have been misleading.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. They might actually be far quicker than what they demonstrated. In which case, Lewis Hamilton has done an excellent job in qualifying the car where he has because he would be able to take advantage of that. If it follows yesterday, I would be surprised if Hamilton can stay ahead of the McBarrans, but that would have proven he's had a very full of phone test of the day. I feel like Hamilton is doing what he used to doing his championship winning seasons. It would start the season slow and very rapidly build into how the car progresses.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And he's starting to show the last four or five races, he was being, before that he was being besieged by Russell pretty much handedly every single time. Not doing badly, but he always finished behind George. Whereas now, since pretty much, I'm thinking Spain-ish, he's really started to come into his own a little bit more because very comfortable with how the car's hanging that qualifying record was what, 7 to 1 and now it's very quickly become
Starting point is 00:12:33 7 to 4 or 8 to 4, something like that so it's very quickly tipping in the scales of Lewis Hamilton's favour ahead of course in the points gallery as well. Yes, yeah indeed. Further down in the top 10 so we've already mentioned that Russell and Sines couldn't match
Starting point is 00:12:49 the performances of their teammates what did you think of their sessions? science, I think, is a little bit wayward with what's going on at the moment. I think obviously no contract signed. He's not at home in the Ferrari car. I imagine that setups and developments aren't focused on science as driving. Unfortunately for him, he still needs to be putting in these superstar performances because if he's not signed somewhere, he's got to be attracting that talent, right?
Starting point is 00:13:12 He's going to be attracting a team to come forward and go, you haven't got a signature. We've got to get you in the car. You're more than good enough. Let's get you in the car. But if he's going to be starting seven places down his team, mate, it's a worrying sign. We know that Carla Science is a good driver.
Starting point is 00:13:24 not the time to have a turn of bad form. I do think it's the conditions that are separating science and Nicolaire. I think Nicolaure is an exquisitely level qualifier where science is just very good. I think that's the difference between them. Russell was the one I was actually more worried about. Russell was very good in the wet.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Russell proved previously here at Spa, of course, in that Williams that he did, for P2, I think it was. In a car so bad that he can elevate it. He's previously qualifying in the wet so well. So to be four or five tenths behind Lewis Hamilton at a track where they're running the same spec car. You know, the conditions were exactly the same for them. They weren't caught out on anything like
Starting point is 00:13:58 the fuel issue that we saw with Russell previously at Hungary, right? That hasn't factored here. So to see Lewis so far clear after the run that Russell was had in qualifying, I was quite surprised about. What are you thinking? I think this is proof actually more than anything that
Starting point is 00:14:14 the qualifying format that we've obviously had for a long time. It's well over a decade. Yeah, even longer than that, but it's, it works because it just shows that, you know, Q1 and Q2 are all about just advancing through the session. And throughout Q1 and Q2,
Starting point is 00:14:30 I didn't think there was much between either of those sets of teammates. Oh, agreed. Agreed. You know, it was quite interchangeable. But it just goes to show that, you know, when everything's on the table, Q3, there are some drivers who can get that extra percent out of the car.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Charles LeClair is one of them. And to be fair, I mean, Carlos Sines and George Russell can be those people as well. Yeah. But just the regular. regularity of it, I think. Look at Russell in Canada. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I just think today they couldn't get the job done in Q3. I think for Russell, more so than science, this isn't a big deal. It's not so that he should get out of the car and worry about. This is something that goes, oh, well, I've got to be it on my teammate, who I'm already beating across qualifying throughout this season. And you know what? I can make up a kind of place for example. Or Hamilton might fall back behind them.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We'll take a break at this point. But we do have the other half of the grid to talk about. Welcome back, everyone. more reaction from Belgian Grand Prix qualifying. Hey, I even called it the Belgian Grand Prix. Well done. You're not the name right. We've moved on from Britain. Thanks not even had a drink yet. I know. That's incredibly worrying. I'm on my third. You've had none. Yeah. Well, more from Abu Dhabi here coming up. We saw Fernando Alonzo and Esteban Ockon make it through to Q3. Of course, Pierre
Starting point is 00:15:59 Gasly looked pretty good early in qualifying as well. He'll start from P12. A better day for Alpine and of course a Q3 appearance for Ashton Martin. Your thoughts for those teams. do not understand Alpine. I don't get them. Your power unit. Yeah. What? I thought that was supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:16:16 There's a reason you're going away from it, right? But straight line is now good. What are you doing? Famously, that is being Alpine's worry, right? Famously, they spoke of constantly about how their power unit is never up to scratch. They want a constant re-evaluation of how the power unit sit. Ferrari, Mercedes, and the Honda slash Red Ball Power, whatever we're calling it, always been better in terms of what its output is.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And yet here, we've gone from being at an aerodynamic chassis focus track in Hungary to come into a power circuit in Belgium. And they are immediately more competitive. I don't really understand it. They're a big chunky boy car. Their power unit doesn't work. And yet they're better at a fast track. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I think Gassley will be disappointed. He was the better of the two drivers throughout the majority of the qualifying session. And when it came down to it, Ocon got the lap. He got the lap done. He was Biden in his time. Ben was teasing with the entire qualified. I was rubbing it in their face, of course, that I've got Gassley. They've got Ockong in the teammate walls.
Starting point is 00:17:10 But yeah, I don't think Twelt's too bad. He'll be able to follow Max for Staff and Through as they will sit closely with him. I wouldn't be shocked to see Ockon come back a little bit. Gassley come forward a little bit. I reckon they're going to be fighting over that last point, 10th, 11th place, ish, at the end of the Grand Prix. They'll find their way to each other. They always do.
Starting point is 00:17:26 They always will, much like the hardest of previous years. Yes. But when it comes to Askin Martin, now we saw Lankstrol absolutely destroy the front end of that car when it came to practice. And I do think that's hamper his form because I think we've been quite fairly kind to Lance Stroh of the few grower entries. His forms on the uptick,
Starting point is 00:17:43 he's improving the results are better, we're right next to his team late Fernando alongside on many a time and finishing in front of him on many occasions. Well done to you, Lance Stroh. I think this is not his confidence a little bit. I wonder if the repair of the car has meant that maybe he's not as set up friendly
Starting point is 00:17:55 as he wanted to be. And of course, tricky conditions. We've seen Lance Stroh excelling these conditions beforehand. Remember, we took a pole position in Turkey in 2021, of course, in even harder conditions than this. Fernando Alonkso that triumphed. I think the car is where it needs to be. Ninth place is good for Ashton Martin.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It shows that the upgrades that they're bringing are progressing with the car. They're able to apply to multiple tracks. They're being consistently inside that top 10 now. I think Fernando can be happy. I'm sure Lance Strohl will probably have a electric start that he's always famously had. I'm going to be back there in kind of the 11th, 12th region pretty quickly. Yeah, I think from Alonzo's perspective and Aston Martin's perspective,
Starting point is 00:18:31 it's okay. It's kind of roughly, where they've been the last few Grand Prix. We know Hungary they were relatively competitive. They had both cars through to Q3. Exactly. It was exactly the same. And that was with Perez and Russell exiting in Q1,
Starting point is 00:18:49 which would have put Alonzo P9, which is exactly where he's qualified today. So it feels about where the car should be. Alonzo, obviously, in these conditions, you would back him to do a better job than Lanchstrol. And that's proven to be the case. I think that probably would have happened even without the crash just based on,
Starting point is 00:19:05 It's not been an insult to Lance Rollo. It's just Fernando Lollstone. It's very good. It's one of the best of all time. Yes. From Alpine's perspective, I've got to be honest on this. I was, so I was running some numbers from yesterday's practice sessions. And I, the end result, I had to rerun them because I didn't think Alpine could possibly be that quick. No, they're just genuinely pretty much this weekend. Granted, it is kind of just going back to where they were like five races ago. Yeah. But they have taken a real dip in the last. asking for the Grand Prix. This feels like maybe it's only here, but they are back to fifth, six,
Starting point is 00:19:41 bass this team. Does it make them a conversation in the RB, ask a battle again? Like, it's so, they're so to a throw. Their practice pace
Starting point is 00:19:47 was better than both for those teams. Yeah. So I think 10th and 12, they can stay there. You know, granted, the staff is going to be
Starting point is 00:19:53 coming through from 11, so that'll be one spot. Yeah. Outside of that, I think, I don't bat any of the drivers below those two to get ahead of them.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, they're being following very quickly by Albon, of course, who's right behind them. Bottas is in that conversation as well. I can't see the Salba making too much progress in that scenario. He's trying, isn't he? He's really trying.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He's really trying. What more can he do? Williams, lock him down. The green toaster. Get voucher in the other car. Yeah. So I've been impressed by Alpine this weekend. Like you say, Gansley was very good early on.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Seemingly just got to one with the conditions very quickly, which for this session, because, you know, I guess everything. consolidated in the end and he's just been knocked out in Q2. But it's actually quite a good sign for almost future events if there is a downpour.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He's not that like you can back him to do a good job. He gets up to speak quickly. Yeah, he could be the first guy to react. You're having on what you might get out of it. We're not expecting that tomorrow, but it's just an indicator of like what we might see in the future in other races. So, yeah, I was impressed by them. Alonzo was fine.
Starting point is 00:21:01 What do you make of the R.B. Menardi driver? So Yuki Sonoda got knocked down in Q1, although we already knew that he was taking a 752 players. Did you hear his reaction when we got talking about the 60 plays penalty? No. He literally went, oh, geez. No, no.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yuki is fine. Don't worry. You can only go back to 20th. You got starting 80th place. I mean, he qualified 18. Yeah. He'll start 20th as a result of that. Daniel Ricardo got knocked down in Q2 13.
Starting point is 00:21:27 What do you make of that race? I was really impressed by Ricardo. Consistently impressed by Ricardo. I mean, I actually was almost disappointed that he got knocked out in Q2 because I think the pace was there to get into Q3. Yes, I think it was. Yeah. And I want this on the record.
Starting point is 00:21:40 No one is coming at me for this. No one is coming at me for this. They didn't get the strategy right. No, they didn't. They went out the wrong time. They went out too early. They did. Right at the end of the session,
Starting point is 00:21:49 Ricardo was not getting a lap in. Yeah. Now, come at me. I'm sure you will. Ricardo's pace itself was fantastic. He was faster than Yuki Sunoda. You think Yuki might have the ability to push himself because he has got the upgraded power unit in today.
Starting point is 00:22:04 in terms of, you know, the new spec, in terms of the one that's, you know, fully brand new in the car, so it gives it full oomph. And I think what I'm shocked about, maybe this happens with Yuki, because we've seen it a couple of times historically now, is when he takes a penalty, I feel like he doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I feel like he's like, I'm going out anyway. Why bother? Yeah. I think Yuki has to get in the mind zone to really be attentive, aggressive, get the timing. And if he knows he's starting from the back regardless, I kind of think he doesn't really give a crap.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, there was nothing to be gained. him being in Q2. Starting a pole position. He still will be last. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there was any advantage to that. But yeah, Ricardo, solid session.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I don't think the car's particularly great this weekend. No. Yeah, we'll see how they go. In the dry, I'm a little worrying for him. I think you might go backwards. Haas have said that they've set up the grid. Pass. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:54 16 and 17. The only team to have two drivers knocked out in Q1 based on Alex Almond and Valkybottas and Daniel Ricardo making it through where their teammates didn't. tough session yeah tough session but kamatsu comes over the team regia
Starting point is 00:23:07 that we heard speaking to the sky f1 commentary team and he did say that they purposely set up for dry conditions in the race that might mean
Starting point is 00:23:15 that they've got significant straight line speed coming towards them in terms of the grand to come through tomorrow which I don't know of points on the cards
Starting point is 00:23:20 I think they're going to be too far back from this unless they get a bit lucky with a safety car or maybe a red flag but I think they're going to be far more capacity but I think they will move forward
Starting point is 00:23:27 yeah based on the conditions that are likely to present themselves tomorrow based on it being and dry. I think it's the right call to, look, that's where, and it's obvious, that's where the points are won. Now, granted, they will have to do more work than perhaps they wanted to from 16, well, actually 15, no, it will be 16 and 17. None of the penalties.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Sorry, I haven't been to mental maths as to where people are qualified. So 16 and 17 is is where they're stuck. But yeah, I agree with you. I think points will be tough because I just don't think they're going to have an outright advantage over the likes of Alex Albert. The Alpins, I think, again, will be just enough. They won't catch up to Vastappan, of course, go forward. Yeah, I think Vastappan will probably see them both off. I wouldn't be shocked if the only car, they comfortably beat, maybe two of them. Ricardo, if the car is bad in the dry, and I think Bottas will go backwards.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah. I mean, Bottas, again, is out qualified in tricky conditions in a car that is quite literally a green dustbing that you see outside your house. Last point, actually, on the salvo, we saw, not that it would really impact him, but we saw Joe Guan Yu, potential blocking of... Oh yes, of course. Max was happened.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They were investigating that. I assume they've now made a decision about that. He's starting on the back part of the group regardless. Even with the penalty, he wouldn't start behind Yuki Sinoa, so nothing will change it. So that means the stewards will choose not to penalise because, of course, that's how they make decisions.
Starting point is 00:24:51 For me, was a penalty. Max sounds like a flying lap. Hello. You go through one of the fastest corners on the racetrack, if not the entire calendar in the wet, and you're just on the racing line, not doing anything, that's a slam-down penalty for me.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Driver of the session. Driver of the... I'm going to have to get it to Max for Snapham. He did get pulled by quite a lot. Over half a second. I know it's smart. I know it's smart. I know it's but in those tricky conditions. When the rest of the field is that close together in your six-tenths clear, that is phenomenal. That's really quite impressive. I'm trying to think of anything else stands out. Boss has, you know, deserve a shout-out. He really is dragging that car up there. And Charlotte-Cla, I think, is well, deserves another shout-tap.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, top two for me. Charlotte-clair, I think, is... at least a couple of positions higher than I thought he should have been. Fighting with Hamilton maybe at the best, yeah. I mean, if you told me yesterday, even knowing Vastappen was going to get a 10 place penalty, if you told me yesterday, LaClau's going to be on pole. Wow, yeah. Not based on LeClau's ability, obviously.
Starting point is 00:25:49 It's just Ferrari have not really been at it. So yeah, I'd give it to the first two. And Vastappen, it's odd because we always knew he was not going to get a whole position based on the penalty. But equally, you kind of just knew, from like the first or second lap. Yeah. He wasn't going to be.
Starting point is 00:26:05 In the first four or five minutes of that session, it's fantastic. When the staff is on that path, he's on that mindset. He is unbeatable. He really does level up. So that's what the Red Bull can do still. It's still capable of doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Let's see if Paris can bring in the races. He will be the lead runner. Well, I expect that the race review we do tomorrow will be under slightly more normal conditions. Carle standard. That is again reliant on the British transport network, though. I've got to get back in time for the race.
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