The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2024 Canadian GP Review

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Ben, Sam and Harry are together to review what was a carnage-filled Canadian GP where the wet weather wreaked havoc up and down the field. The boys discuss all the action from the thrilling chase up f...ront and Mercedes' first podium of the season, to the disappointing double DNFs of Ferrari and Williams... LONDON LIVE SHOW! Join us as we preview the British GP live in London on 2 July, full event info + tickets HERE FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes, historic race reviews & more! JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: SIGN UP & create your team, and JOIN our league (join code: C3PHEQHPU04) BUY our Merch SEND us something! We have a brand new PO box - address: Late Braking Podcast, PO Box 821, TRURO TR1 9PE EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking, today reviewing, or at least attempting to review what was the Canadian Grand Prix. As you'd have, if you were listening to our qualifying episode, you'll know we're all in the same place for once,
Starting point is 00:00:47 which apparently we should always do because all the carnage happens. Yeah, we had a crazy, crazy time. We did a lot of screaming at the television. We've argued about bold predictions, which will be coming up later. Oh, God. We've celebrating a move for the final points
Starting point is 00:01:01 because of driver predictions that we'll be looking at the end of the season, of course. It's been chaotic in the room and on the race track. As Ben said to me before we start recording, F1 is good at the moment. F1 is so good. F1 good. I tweeted that.
Starting point is 00:01:17 yesterday after qualify. I said, whenever, you know, when if one is good, boy, is it good. And I don't,
Starting point is 00:01:21 max one, I don't get, I do not care the max one again because it was well, well earned, hard for, great race.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. It's going to be a hard job to dissect everything that happened. We saw dry tyres, intermediate tires, and even the wet tires at one point.
Starting point is 00:01:37 We had battles for the lead. We had multiple race leaders, but in the end, as already referenced, it was Max Vostappan who took the race victory ahead of the McLaren of Lando Norris,
Starting point is 00:01:46 then the two Mercedes, George Russell, finishing ahead of Lewis Hamilton, despite the fact that it looked like it might not be the case until the last couple of laps. So let's start out front. Max Verstappen, as you say, he's back in winner's circle, but not a very easy route to get there. How impressed were you by what Vastappen was able to achieve this weekend? I think it goes under the radar just how difficult that Red Bull might be to drive right now and that Max is pulling out scupendous drives constantly.
Starting point is 00:02:16 fact that he managed to be the same time as pole position yesterday in a car that I don't think was 100% comfortable for him. The Red Boy, I don't think is the fastest car. I think probably the McLaren on raw pace right now is the fastest car at this exact racetrack. So the fact that he was able to negotiate all the trouble that went on. And then when he did get into the lead, he never really looked him down. Once he did get up front, the gap was always at least two or three seconds. Whilst everyone else was squabbling around behind him, he did a great job at just not making a single mistake. I think every single driver in the top five or six behind him
Starting point is 00:02:51 went off at least once. Piaastri and Norris both made an issue on that first second corner. Russell did the same thing. Stapham did make that one error. When? Into turn two. You're right. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Okay, so even then, even though he scrambled through it though, he still managed to put out a very strong lead. What was incredibly difficult to predict conditions, they got all the strategy calls correct. We even saw, of course, how we were all screaming at Landau for staying out of. on the intermediates for longer than expected. We're thinking he's going to overcut.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It's going to overcut. Because the pit exit was so wet. The stapping, despite arguably losing the time, was able to use the correct line to get back in front. It was just calm, well executing, even with what looked like a suspension problem, I was really impressed with what he was able to do. I'm impressed with you, Harry, by his performance.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And obviously, we've just seen the interviews afterwards. He looked like he really enjoyed it. Well, because he's had like a challenge for once. It's a big fought for him. Yeah, yeah. And the last couple he's now won, the one in him, he was challenged for right at the end by Norris and this one again has been a difficult
Starting point is 00:03:50 and it had to earn it but yeah he earned it and he was very as you say Sam we're very calm and collected a couple of radio messages in there but he didn't panic at all when he wasn't in the lead either against Russell and then obviously Norris was in the in the lead briefly for a bit as well but he didn't seem to seem to panic about it and just just kept plugging on and it and obviously it worked out at the end and yeah his pace in the end was was too much for for Norris in the or either McLaren or any of the Mercedes. So, yeah, F1 is good. Verstappen also still be good.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yes. Still quite good at the F1. He's pretty good at the F1. Yeah, and he showed it again today. Yeah, I think late on as well in that Grand Prix, because obviously early on there was a lot of usage at the intermediate tires, but even when we were on the dry tires, it was quite wet, and it's been wet the entire weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:40 To the point where we were really in the last few laps of that Grand Prix after the second safety car, and we were really having. having the first dry running at long run pace. Like we did have a somewhat dry FP3, but there was so much focus on qualifying because there hadn't been any running in FP1 or two, really. So it was a bit of a mystery at that point exactly how it was going to go with Vastappan
Starting point is 00:05:02 versus the McLaren's and the Mercedes. And we said, well, I don't think we can repeat exactly what we said about how Vestappan handled it after the safety car, but he just left. It was a lot of swearing. He fudged off. he yes it was close to that um he was he was gone right he was gone within half a lap i think he was 1.8 by the end of the first lap yeah um and as you said i mean he kind of managed it from there
Starting point is 00:05:28 three three and a half seconds or so but i thought that was a thoroughly impressive performance we get these performances from vastappen where he's utterly dominant and can't be caught and they deserve a lot of respect but so did these sorts of results where it's not obvious that the wind's going to be his and, you know, he's meant to, he's made to work for it. Do we think that whilst he was brilliant, he was calm, he did what a world champion should do and he's got that experience now. So the mindset is clearly there. Do you think that he was benefiting from the cannibalisation of pace from the cars directly behind him? They were basically playing each other and not working together. And how many times did we see Norris slowing down
Starting point is 00:06:05 Russell, Russell trying to get past, he then hits Pedastry, Hamilton tries to get through it. It's just almost kind of feels like by the time that they got into a succinct order where they can actually start runging, the race have almost come and gone. But yeah, but then I'd say that's still, that still just happened being good, because he's, he'd never got involved in any of,
Starting point is 00:06:21 he could have got involved in a fight like that, but never did. Yeah. You're right, you're right, they did, they were slowing each other out. I still don't think they would have had the, had the pace, but, um,
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'd have been intrigued to know where this would have gone if he hadn't had that safety car, first safety car. Well, that's, that's my next question. Um, is Landon Norris finishing second, had a brief spell in the lead, but the safety car, the first safety car that came out after he had gone past the pit lane.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He still, he wasn't disadvantaged a huge amount because he was still within that top three, but he lost the lead as a result of that. It's a big game of if-butts and maybes, of course. But how much does that impact the overall result? Yeah, I mean, swings and roundabouts. And you heard Champiero Lambiassi come on the radio to Max Verstaffir, when he realized that he was up front during that safety car period. That's one back for Miami, which they clearly took personally then.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And they think they clearly got the wind taken off them due to the safety car. And they clearly think that they've had their kind of, you know, McCrano had their just desserts. But I genuinely think that had safety car not appeared or had it appeared half a lap earlier, I think if Norris had been given the clean air to run, I actually do think that maybe the wing would have gone Norris's way. You can see it on his face when he was celebrating. You know, I use quotation marks there because it didn't look like a celebration. He looked pretty gutted.
Starting point is 00:07:35 He looked pretty, you know, that's a missed opportunity. That's a mischance for us there. I think we could have got the race wing. And I think they probably should have got the race wing. I think if the race are going in a standard format, McLaren might have been on top to win that one. How disappointed do you think McLaren should be particularly looking at Landon Norris and what could have been?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, I think that would be disappointed. I think the thing that maybe they could look, not think they were lucky, but they can look back and say, actually, we probably have done quite well still. Their tie-graining didn't look great towards the end. I mean, particularly on Piastri, Norris less. So it really fell off, don't he?
Starting point is 00:08:12 If they've gone straight to dry ties after that, well, around that first safety car, because it did obviously rain a little bit, but then we definitely went to dries. Had they gone to dries then, would they have had the pace during the race? I don't, for the rest of the race, I don't know. So yeah, they can view it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Norris can feel, you know, hard done by, by that safety car. But in his interview afterwards, I said to you, he was a mature young lad. He was very just accepting of it. it happens is the way it goes, can't be mad about it. And obviously, he had the,
Starting point is 00:08:41 he had the, the right swing of the cool in, uh, in, in Miami. So it, yeah, he might,
Starting point is 00:08:49 it's hard to tell. That race was so chaos. It's hard to tell where that's going to go anyway. So true. It might have, it might have given in the wind, but so much more could have happened anyway. I think the fact that the overtake would have had to have been made on track by
Starting point is 00:09:01 Vastappen does open up a different story, right? We saw that the top runners were struggling to get by each other on raw pace. So I do wonder if, if Norris may be able to defend even if the pace wasn't superior for the McLaren, I definitely think it would have been
Starting point is 00:09:14 a much closer affair had the safety car not come out. Yeah, it is really difficult to tell and I can see it from both perspectives because Norris can certainly look at this race and view Vestappan's pace towards the end of that Grand Prix, which was very impressive those last 15 laps from Vestappan
Starting point is 00:09:31 and it would be easy for Norris to look at that and go, am I going to get another opportunity again? Heard it with Piascriy, right? Do you want to stop play for another go? I've got to worry about the guy behind me, actually. Do you think you can go this fast? No. No chance.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Now I'm right, actually. So I think there will be, there'll be a fair amount of disappointment from Lando Norris in that regard in that you never know when your next opportunity for a win is going to come. But the fact that he's got a win under his belt now, thanks to Miami,
Starting point is 00:09:56 and like you say, I think it was a rather mature approach. What do you make of the, the overcut attempt by Lando Norris? Rate it. Love it. It was a good, when it was,
Starting point is 00:10:07 clear that Gazley was the first one, the pit wasn't he? And then it was Magson and then Botas, when it was clear that it was a slightly too early. And actually, even if it was the right time, it was taking two or three laps for tires to dry tires coming to the window. I think it was a right call. Obviously, Hamilton went for the earlier call, which again, I think was worth it from Mercedes point of view.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But when, when Vastappan and Russell and Norris hadn't come in, then Vastap and Russell come at the same time for McLaren. I think that's a no brain to give that a while because the, They weren't going to gain anything by coming at the same time as Vestappen and Russell because they're just going to come out in the same place unless there's a bad stop for the two of them. So why not give it a go? And actually, I know he did lose out to Russell very briefly,
Starting point is 00:10:50 but it did work for Norris and then he got past him after the pit stop and then obviously had to re-overtake him again. But yeah, I'm not allowed of that. I think it was worth a go. Worth a go? Oh, 100%. How many times in previous races have we said, give this a try?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Why don't you do something different? What have you got to lose? I feel like this Grand Prix, every team just did that. Everyone was like, we've got nothing to lose. Let's just do it. Nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Right, we'll get on to that. But wasn't that spectacular to be like, you know what, we're just going to start on wet. We're both out the points. We stay out the points. What's the worst happens? Ferrari, everything to lose.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Everything to lose. And did nothing good. And they lost. And they did it so badly. Mission accomplished. But, you know, we were saying it with, with Hamilton as well, right? We were like, you're at the back of this pack.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's drying up. You get in the pits. Try it out. get on the drives before everyone else, see if you're an undercut. It didn't work, but they didn't lose anything. And they were bold for it. They gave it a go. Russell's strategy ended up kind of paying off.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And I love the fact they attempted the overcut. And I do think the strategy actually worked, other than the pit exit still being wet, which had actually nothing really to do with their strategy. They could have in hindsight thought the grip we're seeing people lose on the exit is going to counteract the one second difference we might make up through the rest of the lap. Because it's a risk, it's a chance you take.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And, you know, it might have dried up a little. little bit by that point where he got the grip and he was in front. I love that they went for it. It could be in the difference between a race wing or him finishing the second place. Yeah. Yeah, it absolutely was worth a go. And you have to respect McLaren for trying it because it's an unusual strategy in the current day of F1 for an overcut to work.
Starting point is 00:12:24 How often do we see it? Less young or wet or dry compound of tyre. Yeah. And I think they were, they were bold for trying to do so. I think maybe they just went one lap too many. But equally, I don't think that would have. changed. I still think Vestappen would have got by because the amount of time it was taking those tires to warm up. I know Vestappen got Norris straight away. If Norris came out two seconds ahead,
Starting point is 00:12:47 I still think Vestappen gets him by the end of that first lap. He would have been so much quicker in that early going. So the fact that it was quite close and it happened just out of the pits. I don't know if misleading is the right word on that, but equally I think it just would have happened later on if it didn't happen there. It came from behind and he ended up being. next to. Yeah. It was a good enough attempt for it to be worth a go.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Just a quick thought on Piastri as well because as we say, he was in the fight for pretty much this entire Grand Prix until the very end where raining seems to be a massive issue and he fell off the back
Starting point is 00:13:21 of both Mercedes drivers. Is this an encouraging weekend for Piastri or is this like late race tire issue still being somewhat prevalent still a little bit worrying? Yeah, it's a time. bit worrying for Piastri. And again, this is a guy who's in year two
Starting point is 00:13:39 versus a guy who's in, I'm speaking out Norris here, a guy who's been here since 2019. So it's a little bit worrying, but I'm still not massively concerned for Piastri. He's in all these situations, he's still having to learn, like how many wet or wet to dry to dry races
Starting point is 00:13:58 or wet to dry to dry races is possibly be asked you ever done in F1? One, maybe two. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just, just this that's experienced so I don't think the thing that slightly worried me at one point was his pace but he picked that up again and was on the back of that back home I literally insulted him
Starting point is 00:14:14 and he immediately yeah Sam insulted him and then Piastri was like well I'm going to stand for that exactly and he proved me wrong um eat poo uh so it was I'm not too worried by that again it's not he can't keep doing that but I think he'll learn I feel every time with Oscar Piastri in the moment I feel like we just need to caveat he's a year and a half into his F1 career not just the Stinn and McLaren's So he's still being very impressive by my books. Not by Sam's book. Sam hates him.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I was disgusting. No. I think he was off the pace. I think it was very fair when the tyres were equal and the conditions were perfectly equal to go. Mate, you are six or seven seconds off your team mate here. And we're not far enough into the Grand Prix for the tyres to be wearing. You should be closer. And then almost as if something snapped, he went, okay, have four fastest lapsing a row.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm going to close the gap down a two seconds again. And he did. He did a fantastic job. with Piascri. You've got to remember, of course, that if you flip the script, when Norris was up against the likes of science, he didn't really beat science for the first couple of seasons,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and now we look at Norris and say, well, is Norris better than science? And most people will argue potentially. I think it's a fair claim. Equally, you know, look at how Piascri is so early in his career. He is where a second driver should be in relation to their teammate. Other than Mercedes, basically, he is the closest to his teammate on a regular basis right now.
Starting point is 00:15:32 and I do think that that's very, very promising for him. I also think that come the end of the Grand Prix, the move that George Russell planted on Piastri where there was contact at the end, I do think is Russell's fault. And I do wonder if that shook him a little bit, hindering him. It allowed, obviously, both Mercedes to essentially get by him very easily,
Starting point is 00:15:49 which kind of remove the deficit that the rest of the cars had, the gap that the rest of the cars had as well. And he kind of fell off from the back of that as well. So I'm not going to walk away from this one and think, Piasstri, you've let yourself down there. You should have been right behind your teammates. I think where he finished is acceptable, and I don't think he should look at him badly because of it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's disappointing that Piastri didn't, you know, disappear when Russell tried to overtake him. That was clearly an option. Casper the ghost, I thought. That was his only option. Yeah, that was absolutely 100% on Russell, that attempt into the Lashikane, which we'll talk about Mercedes a little bit more after this first break.
Starting point is 00:16:26 From Piastri's perspective, I think it was good. What you need in those conditions is a level head. and Piastri, that has always been is positive, right? In that he had a level head on day one. Like, he is so mature for his level of experience in F1. I think where he was collecting those fastest laps and he was building up to the likes of Norris and Russell, I think it's a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:53 He benefited a lot from Russell slowing Norris down. Yeah, fair. So I'm not quite sure he was as quick as it looked at that stage. in the Grand Prix, but equally, you make use of everything that happens around you. Late in the Grand Prix, it was a little bit worrying, but overall, you know, when you look at the likes of Perez not scoring, two Ferrari's not scoring, there were a lot of incidents we only had, was it like 14 finishes in this Grand Prix? Yeah. Piastri, P5, 10 solid points. Not too bad.
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Starting point is 00:18:33 Come and mingle. Take photos. Meet other people. It would be lovely to have you. Absolutely. At which point we'll go to our first break of this episode on the other side, which had him more about Mercedes. So George Russell managed to collect his first pole position in a little while.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Obviously getting the exact same lap time as Max Verstappen in qualifying, but setting his lap first. So he started first on the grid. Lewis Hamilton a bit further down in 7th, but on the evidence of yesterday, some good pace is. in that Mercedes, which sounds very weird to say. A bit of an up and down day. I think it's fair to say for Mercedes. They were looking very good at certain points, not so good at other points.
Starting point is 00:19:28 The end result is a third and fourth. Is that a win? Is that a loss? Is it somewhere in the middle? Yeah, well, it's literally in the middle of where they started, isn't it? One went forward, technically three places. One went backwards, kind of three places.
Starting point is 00:19:44 We turned around to each other, didn't we? We said at one point, if they convert a 1-7 into a 4-5, it doesn't feel great. They did manage to move forward collectively a place each. And that's great. First podium of the season as well for Masegis, which is crazy. That's their first podium.
Starting point is 00:19:58 They have really fallen by the wayside. I think George Russell had some really promising moment throughout this Grand Prix. I think unfortunately for George Russell, many of those really strong positive moments like his race pace, his pressure that he was applying. The defensive work that he was doing for a lot of the Grand Prix were simultaneously. tarnished by the mistakes he made, the times he went off the track, the contact with Piaschri, the way he basically fell back to Lewis Hamilton at one point, got passed by Lewis Hamilton, who started, of course, six places behind him, much like the olden days of Haas,
Starting point is 00:20:32 where they used to find each other by the end of the Grand Prix regards of where they started. They did that, but this time it's a third and fourth. So I think the Sages will walk away from this weekend with a net positive impression of what they're doing. They've got their first podium. Lewis Hamilton finished 4.5 tenths away from a podium and either car kick picked it up easily.
Starting point is 00:20:52 The car's race pace felt seemingly, I know it sounds weird because Russell got pole, but the race pace felt better than the qualifying pace. I think overall that's more transferable. It was more consistent. They were able to regularly hang with the McLarons. They weren't too far off the Red Bulls.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Obviously, they dominated the Ferraris this weekend, which is interesting. Everyone dominated the Ferraris. So true. I dominated the Ferraris. The Ferraris dominated themselves. Alex Albaughan hates them. So, you know, we're going to see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But I think overall they're going to leave this weekend to think we have a better idea of what's going on, maybe, and we've made progress. And we've scored our best points weekend for the entire season so far. So disappointing that they couldn't get Russell higher up as he started on that pole position, but it's up against incredibly skiff competition. And you look at the season's training so far, that redboard is faster. That McLauron is faster. Arguably third is a pretty solid result. How do you read this one, Harry? I think if you'd have told Toto Wolf before this weekend,
Starting point is 00:21:49 three, four, Toto, how does that sound? He'd have gone, yes, where do I sign? Yes, what do I sign? On the pumping eagle. That's not legally binding. But equally, if you said to Toto Wolf, midway through qualifying yesterday, three, four, how do you feel?
Starting point is 00:22:06 He might have gone, I don't like that. I don't like that. I still think I take it. I still think he goes, yeah, I take it. How do they look at it? yeah that's a tricky one for Mercedes to take because at one point this weekend they looked like they were staring down their most competitive weekend since
Starting point is 00:22:24 Brazil 22 maybe Singapore last year I know they didn't win I mean it was yes yeah but but in terms of actual pure pace competitiveness those two um obviously in qualifying george did get the pole hamilton didn't nail the lap and ended up seventh so that that was half a disappointment on that one but obviously for success. I think they'll take the positives from this weekend. It's not, they've converted a 1-7 to a 3-4. They've sort of conversion in the middle, as you said, Sam,
Starting point is 00:22:55 but which on paper doesn't look amazing, but I think they will still take this because their pace for the first time this year is actually good, which they've lacked. Legitimately good. There was a lot of mixed conditions there, but they were good in all of them,
Starting point is 00:23:13 which actually is a quite a good sign. So there's still work to be done there. Apparently the only thing they needed was a front wing after all that. What is that about, though? I don't know. I still don't think. And again, I'm going to caveat this. I know we're not at Spain, but the Spain merchants.
Starting point is 00:23:30 To be fair, it's a warm up. It's not quite, it's like Spain light, because Canada, they tend to do something similar. Yeah. They were pretty good at Canada last year, weren't they? Yeah, because Hamilton's on podium then. So I'm going to caveat. I'm not saying Mercedes are back quite yet. and I might have to wait again until after the next race
Starting point is 00:23:46 because the next race is Spain and they are Spain merchants. So we'll wait until what's next? Austria after that? Yes. Come back to me in July. Did you see how slowly we're on a straight line? Oh no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 It's a little bit worrying. Anyway, it's certainly more encouraging. And they'll take their first podium of the year, which is mental. Could you imagine in 2019 saying, oh, by the time we get to 2024, by race eight, they wouldn't have had a podium. Well, and then Hamilton had only finished in the top. six at all he's not he's not and he's not qualified in the top six yet so yeah on the face of it for
Starting point is 00:24:20 this year a good weekend all around for Mercedes they i think there will be a little tiny bit disappointed after quality but maybe even qualifying was just a bit of a i think when they woke up on saturday morning before fp3 i don't think Mercedes were like we're going to be the fastest here obviously after fp3 they were like hello oh hello and and they carried on into qualifying with russell converting it to poll so overall i think they'll be happy but it's it's it's an encouraging sign and just, I'm still slightly worried that they don't know why it's good. I think they're going to look at the timing sheets and go after qualifying.
Starting point is 00:24:52 What's this colour between red and blue? I'm not seeing this weird purple you're calling it, is it? Are we out? Is that, yeah, are we done? Have we been fired from Formula fastest? Yeah. I think the fact that they were that capacitive is a good thing. It is overall good.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I do think they've missed out on a few points. whenever you've got a car on pole and you don't then have a car in the top two in the race standings, it's going to be a little bit of a disappointment. But equally, this is so far clear of anything they've done so far this year. Whether it continues or not,
Starting point is 00:25:28 the most amazing thing about this, and this goes back to how good F1 is at the moment. We've been talking the last couple of weeks. Do we legitimately have three teams in a championship fight? A fourth team comes along and is very good this weekend. That's great. Well, yeah, a fourth. team comes along, but one of the four
Starting point is 00:25:45 teams decided not to come along. Yeah, the other one decided to me. I know, I know. Doesn't matter. The championship, that's problematic. I always say Red Bull's only half a team. Well, more on that a bit. But like race to race, it's
Starting point is 00:25:58 not too bad. Like, if Ferrari have a stinker here, we go to the next time out in Spain and McLaren have a stinker, but Ferrari are back on the pace. We've got three teams fighting. That's some, it's pretty good. We like it. Pretty good. Yeah. So, yeah, I think there'll be
Starting point is 00:26:13 it'll be a tad disappointed of how the race played out, but equally 28 points they've got from this weekend, which would match the amount that McIron got from this weekend. They were the joint highest scores of the weekend. Obviously, three more than, three more than what Red Bull would have got. So that's pretty good going for a team that's... Did Hamilton get the fastest slap as well? Yeah, he got the fastest lap on the last one, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah. So... Question for the team. If Hamilton hadn't qualified seventh, and let's say qualified third. do we think they still finish 3-4 or do you think in theory they could have maybe? Because I think 3-4 would still be a reasonable finish
Starting point is 00:26:50 if they did qualify 1-3. I don't think that's even a bad result for them then. I think the fact that George Russell was overtaken by Lewis Hamilton and all race just being overtaken because of a mistake and then having to get it back again pretty much. I just think that indicates that late on, George Russell overtakes Lewis Hamilton, sorry, Lewis Hamilton overtakes George Russell,
Starting point is 00:27:12 George Russell overtakes him back, and they end up like half a second between. It probably indicates that their face was almost identical. They are the same. I think Lewis Hamilton got fortunate with the safety car. He was one of those that benefited a lot because he was stuck behind Fernando Alonzo until that happened. Well, yeah, the pit stop was a shocker for Astell, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yes, and it would have been very interesting to see how that would have gone if he couldn't have got that in the pits. Yeah. Because he was a long way behind the rest of the... top five. But yeah, equally, Lewis Hamilton, I think he had the outright pace to be where he was in fourth place. He just went the long way around it.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Just start there next time. Yeah, that's a good idea. Do your lap. Yeah, how many times when you're saying, you know, qualifying the issue. If you just start there, you might have a good time. Maybe. Don't be fast in the race if you start 10 places behind where you're actually meant to be.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Qualify well. Have a good time. Write it in the book. Get it tattooed. Do you have any thought, Sam, on the, various strategic calls that were made by Mercedes because we had obviously Lewis Hamilton going on to hard tyres which in itself was a call but both drivers coming into the pits in that second safety car period where the McLarence didn't and Vastapen didn't. Yeah, I actually think
Starting point is 00:28:29 the tyre choice was to come in was a good one. I think that the tyres were wearing heavily. We saw that even with the inters, I know that the conditions were changing but actually I think Canada is a surprisingly high tire wear track. There's a lot of heavy acceleration zones. You lean on the outside tire a lot. So I think having fresh tires on a track that might suddenly rubber up was a very sensible decision from Mercedes. And actually, we were very critical of this when we were watching.
Starting point is 00:28:54 But the hard tire for Lewis initially felt like a very odd decision. We both, all of us were sat there going, why not mediums, let alone softs, right? It's about 10, 15 laps ago at this point. Why would you not stick on the softer tire? But come the end of the stink, you argued that Hamilton had the best pace of the entire group and the tyres clearly were getting hot,
Starting point is 00:29:16 they were not very durable, those medium tyres, and they were maybe struggling towards the end of the stink. So actually, I think they might have played it as well as they could have done from where they were. Any thoughts? Yeah, I don't, did we see anyone on soft tyres? No, never featured. I thought maybe, maybe at the end, one of the houses did, potentially,
Starting point is 00:29:34 but I might be wrong. That's just ban. They just wanted to do all the tires. Do all the, you know that we did that on a YouTube, video and do all the tires and one race challenge? Can you finish the race on every tire? Yeah. It's time for driver of the day.
Starting point is 00:29:47 The verdict is in. You're the driver of the days. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. Driver of the day. Who've you got, Sam? Oh, I'm going to go. Max was stepping.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I think he won the race. He won the race. He didn't even start from the front. And I think, well, Russell wasn't really. impressive in some moments and Norris was impressive in some moments and there was some drivers further back even the likes of Ocon and Gasly who both were really, really good at getting the most out of a NAF car. Oh yeah, I know, we'll get on to that again later.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But Max Verstappen, head down, no proper issues, got through the car's problems, stayed out of trouble, got the wing, that's a world champions drive. Are you going for? I mean, good, good call, but I'm going to give it to the aforementioned Esteban Okon for dragging that chungus Chungus of an Alpine He had a 2014 spec car I think That's so true
Starting point is 00:30:47 He's walking around like a box I know yeah obviously he did get him in the end But I think the strategy that he was on Was horrendous Was interesting to say the least And he made it work Yeah I'll go with Ockard Both Alpines were pretty good
Starting point is 00:31:04 To get some points here today For Stappans Another great call Anyone else I'd give it to in there? No. Those, yeah. I think those are the right candidates.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Both Alpines were very good. Policy. I don't think either of them deserve points. Gassley made his strategy work of basically being the first driver. I said to Sholucler to come in for driving. He made that work. And equally, Esteban Ockon, on some old medium tires, after being on old intermediate tires,
Starting point is 00:31:35 driving the biggest car in the history of F1, that's not too bad to get a point either. I will join you. I'll go Max for stopping as well. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. Ben, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. You suck and I driving. Worst driver of the day have you got?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Huh. Who's, Sergio, mate. Why not? One point in the race, Sam was, and I think fairly was defending some pair heads because I was trying. You gave him the, The benefit of the doubt, the first slap contact he had with Gassley. Gassley, Ocon, Gassley.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think it was Gassley. An Alpine. Which may or may not have been his fault. We don't know. So he was struggling because he was missing front wing, but then decided after getting a new front wing to throw it at the barrier on his own. Not just the front end. The rear, and yet, not the, not his, knock his rear wing off. And combine that with the qualifying 16th in a red, but.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It's another bad weekend for Sedgeya. Happy new contract day. Yeah. Please don't rip on my contract, Christian. Please keep the paper. Yeah, so I've gone for Perez on that one. Any other contenders for worst driver? Logan Sargent wasn't great either.
Starting point is 00:32:55 No. No. No. Went off twice, second time better than the first time. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, not a great day for Ferrari overall. Yeah, worst team of the day. Yeah, we'll talk about a bit more about Ferrari after the next break.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So, yeah, they're in and around this discussion, but equally, you know when we were jokingly said they'd only did their upgrade for Monaco? I think they might have actually only done their upgrade for Monaco. They've done it for Shell, just to win that race. And nothing else. They've got a Spain upgrade for Carlos and that's it. We only win at home. Notting in Muller.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Perez is a fair shout because when your teammate wins a Grand Prix and you don't score any points, That isn't great. But the worst driver of the day was Logan Sargent. He made two notable errors, got away just about with the first one, didn't get away the second time around. This was the sort of race as well where if he were to keep it on the track and avoid errors, there were points there. There were points available for pretty much anyone if they wanted it. If they didn't crash or spin or get involved in some. someone else's mess.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Like there was a chance at him really. And he had a good qualifying session as well. But this was, he stood out a bit. Also just, Daniel Ricardo, he was poor. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:21 beat his team mate, didn't he? But. Yeah, he shouldn't have done. Yeah. He shouldn't have spun. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It's a valid. He wasn't, yeah, he wasn't quick, was he, Ricardo during the race? I'm going to go, Sergio.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think when that many cars fall out of race, even if you did have the bad start and you qualify in a bad position, that Red Bull, although not the dominant car it was last season, is more than good enough at a track like Canada to get yourself up to at least a tent for a ninth. In next conditions. Yeah, right. Like, if both Alpins are scoring points, Sergio Perez should have scored a point. I'm sorry, it's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Or should have finished the race. I mean, yeah, obviously, that's a bare minimum for any F1 driver. And the fact he bing it off on his own, that's even worse. But he should have been in there. And it's not good enough again from Sergio. Big brain strat. We're going to need you to box for wets. What?
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's a headstack. Goodness me. Goodness me. They actually have many contenders. Should we list them off? Firstly. The start of the start. Huss.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Wet tires. Which looked good for about seven laps. In fairness. It's worth it. It's worth cool. I don't think they've really lost out. I do not think it's bad. I kind of almost gained at one point.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I think they kind of. just broke even with it. If they got lucky with the weather and it dried up a bit faster, genuinely would have been a brilliant call. Mackison was fourth at one point. I think if the rain had come... Yeah, or the rain comes quicker.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah. Or a safety car comes out. Well, I'll go... There's an obvious one, but I'll go first. And I've already mentioned this one. But Alpine, leaving Esther Banokon out on a set of intermediates for over
Starting point is 00:36:19 like 45 laps. Yes. He made it work. You don't get a pit stop. No pit stop for you. We don't service our own. The people that are part of our team. We only give piss off people we like.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Be fair, there's only two people on tyres this weekend. Yeah, Trenks are the England squad, I need for you. So he's out. Because we're in Canada, it's not too far for Travis Kelsey to come along. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds is there as well, I imagine. Yeah. Good. I'll pick that as my one.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I know there's another one thundering its way down the corridor here, so I'll hand it over to Sam. Yeah, Ferrari. What are you doing? What are you doing? Not only were they just so bad. They capped it off and going, okay, we do something clever now
Starting point is 00:37:01 and they're pissed up. So they come in to be the first team to probably go on to the dry tires. And then Charlotte, Claude doesn't want to go anywhere. They all just sit there looking at him like, go. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I just control alt deleting. Why aren't you going? Oh, the car doesn't work. Well, you fix the issue. No. No. I didn't touch the car. I am Charlotte Claire,
Starting point is 00:37:24 the engineer. I fixed the car, immediately to drive around at three miles an hour, nearly falling off the track at every corner, and then to retire the car. I mean, I appreciate a bold call. We all do. And we said earlier in the episode.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Love a bold call. Yes. The given, all we'd heard about for the previous 20 minutes was the rain that was about to hit and the accurate weather was pretty accurate. Are you doing this Ferrari? If they have just waited for literally two more laps and then done it. Well, just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I understand the call, but it was terrible. That's the answer. That's just the answer. 15 laps to go and fine with it. Yeah, 15 laps, if you're in last place and there are still 18 drivers or whatever, still in the race, go for it. Oh, no problem with it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 What were you lose? There was over half the race to go. We saw how much carnage happened. If you just stay in the fight, if you just allow Shao LaClau to catch back up, to the end of that safety car on intermediate tires, there's still points for him. If they had sold, maybe they solved the issue, like they said,
Starting point is 00:38:32 or Charles sold the issue by starting the car up again. Either way, there's a chance. Yeah. All he needed to be was in the fight to see. You time a safety car, the next safety car, right? You might end up jumping someone. The car wasn't the slowest car on the track. It wasn't good, but it wasn't the slowest thing out there.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Like I said, if you've got 10 laps to go and you've got nothing to lose, sure, I haven't got a problem with that, but there was just a lot of carnage yet to unfold, so that does win big brain strap for me. But well done harsh for actually doing something of it inventive, and it kind of working. Yeah. I respect it. Respect that.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Let Kamatsuka. Honestly, it crooked up a storm. Start us, Andy. What's the matter, mate? I don't want to do this. What's matter? I don't want to do this next bit. I mean, even though I have had a good weekend,
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't want to do it because there's an ensuing argument about to happen. I want to do it. Hang on, we're at 40 minutes here.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Really need to go to a second break. So we're going to have to, we're going to have to keep this really brief. For the sake of the ads. Do it for the ads. Go it for the revenue. We're trying to go full time. Reviewing bold predictions.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Harry, your bold prediction was Lance Stroh, top seven. Where did you finish? Seventh. Well done. One point for you.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Even though he was eight for nearly the entire race. Yeah. And then he was like, I'll do it for hours. Fair. I'll take you. Ben, bold prediction. What was it?
Starting point is 00:39:57 My bold prediction, as revealed on yesterday's qualifying episode, was that the top four cars in qualifying would be separated by less than attempt. The gap was north point 103. That is 3,000th away from being right. I hate this game. Sam, your bold prediction was that. Three people over the weekend were crashing to the wall of champions. What was that word that began with C?
Starting point is 00:40:18 Crash. Yes. What do you define us hitting the wall as? A crash. Hitting the wall. How is that not what a crash is? There's a dictionary definition that says it's the same thing. If Max Verstappen hits the wall and sets a purple final sector, I'm sorry, it's not a crash.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So when Lewis Hamilton won the race on three tires only, his car wasn't together and doesn't win the race. He wasn't setting purple sector. That doesn't matter. That was never part of the requirement. I'd also like to, he didn't have a crash. Lance don't hear it twice. Alba also hit it once. I've got backup options.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'll give you, Albin. I'm not giving you any others. The disc will believe it's correct. Three two in total. otherwise he loses the pit stop one. Well, there'll be 2.1. That's fine. 21 is fine if you lose the pit stop 1.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It's not because it's 3-1. No, it's 3-2. 3-10. Sorry, mate. Good stuff, 3-2. Everyone, back me up, thank you. 3-1-0. I love 3-2.
Starting point is 00:41:05 3-1-0. Great. So we're going to take a break at this point. We're going to have a fight. We're going to get out of this fight. Yeah, go on. 3-1. 2.3.2.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Okay, everyone. We referenced as part of the big brain strategy. Ferrari's difficult day. We apologise because this is on us, we did say in the qualifying... We did. Sorry, not the qualifier, the preview episode, that, you know, could Ferrari keep their momentum
Starting point is 00:41:54 from Monaco going? Narrator. No. It's going to be a short segment. They didn't score any points, Sam. No, this was a... Oh, I get this war. Flipping disaster.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. Absolutely a point. We came for Ferrari. I don't actually know what happened because it's not like they were running in the points and strategically they tried to be bold and we got a laugh at Ferrari being rubbish. They were rubbish anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:19 They say in practice, we're really bloody slow here. They were right about that. They were. So it comes to qualifying. They're struggling to get into Q3. We don't use new tyres. We've already discussed that on the qualifying review.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But what a strategic blunder that was. Absolute poo fest ringing down upon them. They get to the race day. We're not very quick. we're still not very quick, we've got issues with the car. Let's do a bold strategy call car and will it pay off for them? Narrator, no. They end up retiring one of the cars.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Carlos Sines is then awful, spings on his own, kills Alex Albon's car and race entirely. It's a terrible day for them. They've had a shocker. I think the image of Carlos Sines desperately trying to get off the wet grass perfectly summarises Ferrari's weekend. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I can't escape. I can't. I cannot escape this hell. I'm trapped in this pool of crap. Could have gone better. Could have gone better for Ferrari. A car finishing at least. Yeah, I think like you says,
Starting point is 00:43:22 obviously the weekend went terribly in terms, or the race went terribly in terms of the results they had, i. none. Signs spinning, that was his own foe and crashed into Albonn. Signs. But you thought your break, mate.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yeah, that's like a basic rule of sim racing. Don't roll back into the bloody race. Yeah. So don't do that. Take out your future teammate. Potentially. We don't have incite knowledge. Lecler obviously had the issues with the engine
Starting point is 00:43:46 that he had to fix himself because he's a mechanic as well. And they had put him on slick tires when it was raining. What's beating his teammate at the entire rates though? I don't even blame Leclair. But in general, the Ferrari was the more worrying thing was a part of garbage this weekend. Yeah, I don't understand what the problem was with it. The car won the one the last race.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I know it was Monaco. But the car won the last race and naturally has generally looked pretty good this year. That's easily that worst weekend. weekend. It was not even close. It were slow. It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It was so bad. I can't even like confidently say they were extremely slow either just because FP1 and FP2 are so difficult to judge and FP3 was equally difficult to judge because there was so much quality running. And then we had qualifying and they had a strategic error that probably cost them a position in Q3. And then in the Grand Prix itself, Signs basically spend the entire race in traffic, which it's difficult.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I mean, we saw like Lewis Hamilton struggle to get by Alonzo right. We don't really know what pace signs had. Sure, it's their own doing, but we don't know what pace he had. And equally, Charles Leclair, if he had an issue for the majority of that first thing, we don't know how much that was costing. So I think really, coming out of this weekend, Ferrari feel like they were probably slow, but equally they never really got an opportunity to show if they were quicker than that. But just a disaster all round, really.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And, you know, we can say we can give a bit of a pass because for the most part, it has been a great deal better. But it really feels like a missed opportunity because, and I think we made this point in the preview episode, we are on the cusp. And I gave F1 my under pressure because we're almost there to something of a good season and a good challenge, even if both championships aren't up for grabs for the entire year,
Starting point is 00:45:33 there could be something here. there isn't going to be if the likes of Ferrari or maybe someone else isn't able to pull together results like this when they are absolutely needed. Just, just they should have packed up on Thursday. Yeah. I mean, they would have saved themselves some cash and walked over the same amount of points, right? The worrying thing for Ferrari is here.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You're right. Do they hope that they were caught up in traffic, qualifying pace and the weird mixed conditions in the suit the car? And actually, this is their anomaly. And actually, Monaco, weirdly, might ring true for the. rest of the season. They've got to hope that when they bring those upgrades to Spain that they brought to Monaco, they click, it works, they get the set up right and they're straight back there with
Starting point is 00:46:12 McLaren and a Red Bull. Otherwise, we are in for a very tough mid-part this season for Ferrari. Yeah, because even like Imala, for example, they might not have been as good as they were at Monaco, but they were still much better than what they were at Canada. They were still the third fastest team. So I'm struggling to believe that this would be the start of what their actual pace is from now on. but yeah, a difficult one to judge.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Just, no. This is where Ferrari have actually painted their car silver and Mercedes had painted their car red and told them it's like a special livery day. Actually, that was Mercedes-y's driving around. This one's already moved. Yeah, he's already over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Right, shut. How did the Alpine score points, Harry? I don't really know, mate. I know, I know. Plural. How did the Alpines? I don't know. Three points.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I don't know. It's a mystery. To be honest, they did exactly what you were saying earlier to people like Charler-Clair and Logan Sargent. They just stayed on the track. Yeah. Which, to be honest, they did. I don't think the Alpine, I don't think the Alpine pace was good,
Starting point is 00:47:17 as we saw by Yarno Ocon. It was not a good. We must have called him Chungus about 19 times. I look, to clarify, Espan Okon is not a chungus. The car is. The car is. We read today that Ocon, there's only one updated chassis. for the Alpine,
Starting point is 00:47:33 which is a lighter weight chassis because the chassis is a chungis normally. But Gatsley's got it. And apparently Ocon thinks are going to swap. A wheel soon see. Okay, then. Sure. Like I'm going to take Ockon into the room and go,
Starting point is 00:47:48 you're getting the new chassis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like giving the child a gift. Like, you're going to get the towing X. It looks the same as last time. Yeah, it's different though. They promise you. They do that.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Excellent word by both. And actually shows the experience of those two. drivers. I know they're not, I'm the most experience on the grip, but they've been around a while now.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And they, they just drove very sensible. Well, well. Hang on, but even, they, they battled each other
Starting point is 00:48:14 and it was fine. Did not crash. I think that last moment. He did. You could see him. Yeah, but he didn't go for it. His contract has not been
Starting point is 00:48:23 renewed for next year. He had every, like, in his mind to go, no, I can't say that. Sudge this. Send,
Starting point is 00:48:29 send, you know what? He would have a, he would have a, like every right to go. And he didn't. He went, this is my team anymore,
Starting point is 00:48:36 I do what I want. And he didn't do it. Now he doesn't. Now he doesn't. Before, when everything was, everything's still on the line. Reward Ocon with punishment. He's a sadist.
Starting point is 00:48:47 He loves being hated. Fair play to Alpine. They were both really slow for a lot of the Grand Prix, but they kept it on the track. They didn't kill each other. Gassu did a great job, I think, of being ahead of the strategy curve.
Starting point is 00:49:01 He even pitted, before a lot of the cars around despite his tires, originally also being the newest of the set of him around him again. O'Con did a great job of defending on old tyres. And it was another great performance from O'Con, right? We're seeing it time and time again over this season, other than Monaco, basically, where he has outdriven that car. And he's done it again, he's really performed.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I also think the small amounts of upgrades they're making, the weight saving and the slight changes in the chassis that clearly gasoline is benefiting from are actually taking effects. They're not gigantic leaps. But that's two, that's what, three times now they've scored points this season? Sure, yeah. Right? And at the start of the season, they were literally the slowest car.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So they are slowly moving forward. And that is great progression. They're going in the right direction. Sonic weekend from Alpine. It just further proves the point that this whole saga about their drivers is so stupid. Yep. Because the reason they have scored points today is their drive. both of them. They were both very, very good. They are the reason they've got three points. And
Starting point is 00:50:06 equally, driverability is the reason why many other teams do not have as many points as they should do. Yeah. And they are throwing, they have thrown that away. It's utterly beyond me. That might be big brain straight out of the season. Sure. I can subscribe to that. Yeah. They were just, they were awful. They were so slow. They had no right to score points here. And yet they did. So their answer is to, no, we don't want to knock on next year. It's just so stupid.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But they were great. They did really well to score points. What did you make of the RB drivers, Harry? Because they looked very good in qualifying, particularly Daniel Ricardo who hooked up the lap. Didn't quite equate to race pace. Yeah, the race space wasn't there for either of them, to be honest, was it?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Not particularly. Yeah, Ricardo, he had a slightly dodgy, I still couldn't work on whether you actually jump the star or not. They think he did, but from the onboard didn't look like he did. Well, you never saw like a proper detail replay. They did one replay, but it didn't look like it. Anyway, but it wasn't a good start for him. He obviously dropped back, then he had to take their penalty out of the pit stop.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Sonoda, he also wasn't quick, but was just one of those drivers up until about five laps from the end. He would just stayed on track and, you know, didn't peer, that sort of thing. and so that's how he'd get in their places but fair play he was having an okay race but again his pace was not good Landstrol was stuck behind him for the entirety of the race until he overtook him yeah they had a
Starting point is 00:51:39 I mean Ricardo still came home with points which again if you look at where he qualified versus where he finished you go well that was disappointment but I don't I think Ricardo out drove the car in qualifying yesterday so it's probably realistically where they're about where they should have finished but it's a shame they didn't get double points finished
Starting point is 00:51:56 so I don't think they can be massively, I don't know, I'd say massively happy. They still got some points out of it, but I think they should have got both cars and the points. I haven't recovered from that Sonoda spin yet. I still don't know how Nikolkhovak hasn't hit him. How? How has no one been affected by that?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Apart from Sunoda, obviously losing a load of spots. No one hit anything. Sunoda didn't hit a wall. No. Holkenberg didn't hit him. The breaking ballard got to hit. Yeah, that was it. RIP. But I mean, it's unfortunate for that Sonoda wears white overall because they ain't white anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:32 He poopied himself. End of review. He poopied himself. Fuki Punoda. Oh, no. No, that's poor. I expected more from you, huh? Why?
Starting point is 00:52:46 I have no idea. Yeah, it's an odd one from the Minardi duo because I like I say, I don't think Ricardo had a good race. I know he came home with points, but. Equally, I think he got a bit fortunate that his five second penalty didn't cost him more. And there were multiple points where he wasn't on the back of the car in front of him, despite the fact that I think he should have been. I think Sonoda was having a pretty good race. He was in the same spot as Ocon.
Starting point is 00:53:13 But equally, if you spin and lose a load of positions, it kind of counts for nothing. It's still a point more than what the Alpines have got. points than William Salma has. So in terms of the teams, they probably consider to be in direct contact with them. They've still won, I guess, but it's not a great weekend for them. No, not a good weekend at all, really. I mean, when you look at the potential, we said this about Mercedes, and I think it was really not realized by the RB guys, the fact that Ricardo qualified brilliantly in P5,
Starting point is 00:53:53 and he deserves a lot of plagues for that P5. and he tried very hard to humble Jacques Villeneuve on the qualifying day and they did a very, very good job at almost proving him right again come the Sunday and we're going to get into some of those comments. I imagine at a slightly later date because they were quite controversial. But it was a real tale of two sides for Ricardo where yes, picked up that penalty, dropped two positions straight off the start. He was not quick for majority of the Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:54:18 managed to beat his teammate, but only after Sunoda had that spying and that's again disappointed from San Diego because after such great form across the entire season where he's really shone a light upon himself to then not really score any points because a mistake all on his own was a bit of a letdown. So the fact that they've walked away with some points, but it definitely could have been,
Starting point is 00:54:36 they could have easily been where the Askin Martins were. I think they could have finished sixth and seventh, if not seventh and eighth, if they both had a completely clean and strong weekend. And arguably, should have both bringing the points quite comfortably. So they did well to walk away with some, but it should have been better. There was so much happening in this Grand Prix.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's hard to give everyone the, attention they deserve. So just a quick word, Harry, on the Aster Martins, who did finish P6 and P7? I think that's where they deserve to finish. That's my quick word. It's fair enough. As we said, I think Alonzo could have gone quicker, but he just wanted to battle Lewis Hamilton. I don't actually think that, but that's exactly what their pace was, six and seventh. They weren't quicker than the Mercedes duo. They were quicker than the rest of them, six and seventh. Yeah. I actually think it was a really great drive from Alonso. I think Stroll did well, but I think Alonso did a great job of defending from Lewis.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Just on his own all the whole time. Exactly. Apart from when Hamilton was there, he was on his own. We literally got back to what Alonso was doing, where he's a head of everyone else, but he's behind the absolute top runners because the car just isn't there. And Alonso excelled in the mixed conditions. He barely put a foot wrong. The pit stop was what cost him, not anything he was doing.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I really think he shung a great light on himself and he did himself proud, and that was a great return to form for Alonso and for Ashton Martin. The fact that Stroll was right there behind him as well, I do think this is a really positive weekend for them. Final break on this episode. We've got some Moment of the Race submissions. About this. Okay, moment of the race,
Starting point is 00:56:18 we've got some discourse submissions that will play in a moment's time, but we will start with our own moments of the race. What have you got, Mr. Reed? There are plenty. Yes. I'm going to go for Alex Albourne, you dirty, dirty man.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Oh! Oh! When we do the LBs, it might be overtake at the season. For those of you not knowing what we referring to with those, those noises, Alex Albon into the final corner overtaking an Alp, I know, sorry, Ricardo. Yep. And then, to be fair, he might have crashed into him otherwise.
Starting point is 00:56:53 But because he's breaking too late, just slips down the inside of an Alpine at the same time. But the gap's not there because Ricardo's on the inside. He just sort of forces Ricardo out the way to then go down the inside of the Alpine. takes the racing line, but everyone else around him is just about. And he just goes, I'm just going to pass through like it's the Matrix. He was actually, and to be fair, a shout out to Arbon. I think he was on a really good race until size decided not to end him.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Until he wasn't. He decided no more from you. No more for you, Albon. That was too dirty. That's my moment of the race, because there are loads to go through here, but carry on. Moment of the race now. Oh, there are so many. I think I will pick Charles Lecler just sat in his pit box while everyone around him just
Starting point is 00:57:34 Dangs, they're watching for over 20 seconds. Classic Ferrari. Just like, what can we do? What can we do? Why isn't it going? What can we do? Shell, go. Why's the car off?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Why's the car off? I'll fix it then because I'm Cheryl LeClau, and I have to do it all for you. And then, obviously, they retired the car two laps later after a terrible decision. It was just brilliant stuff. The album one is a definite shout. Martin Brundel, unintentionally being very funny, and it's horrible, but forgetting the Perez was in the race.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Oh. That was brutal. I forgot he was here. I'd like to give focus, George, focus. Focus, George. Another great show. Oh, I forgot what I was going to go for. The Yuki Sonoda spin.
Starting point is 00:58:20 How on earth. The Haas did not collect Yuki Sonoda. I've got no idea. Collectively, as a three, we screamed. We all went. Yeah, and actually what they were doing. Yes, exactly. I don't know how they don't.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I mean, they must do. We heard Yuki's radio once, he just screamed over the radio, but he must have gone, ah, at one point or another. Oh, and Charles LeCla,
Starting point is 00:58:42 being unhappy about the team radio, he got back about how much time he was losing, and he's like, no, I don't want this answer. Just give me the actual thing. Yeah. That's our selections. Time for some Discord selections.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Okay. We've got bloody loads. Okay, folks, yeah, we've got about a gazillion here. First up, though, is Real Dad and James. This is really, dad and James and his mate Moritz moment at the road a little bit early Leclerc is one minute and seven seconds behind
Starting point is 00:59:11 after what could have been the best pit stop in Ferrari history James what is Toto saying right now however nothing that's that one not saying about Russell and Moritz what is LeClerc saying oh no no no no no see you guys No, no, no. Oh, no, no. So a little fart there to round that one off. I don't know what happened at the end there.
Starting point is 00:59:37 A little squeak. No idea. Real doubt losing it. It's not quite as a minute, but seven behind. Excellent, excellent moment. A little squeak. A little squeak. Everyone was bit excited.
Starting point is 00:59:54 A little squeak. Oh, go, thanks, Carl. I don't know why that's something. Go on. Next one. Move on. Next is chiggles like giggles. high of watching Magnuson and Hockenberg race through the pack on wets was awesome
Starting point is 01:00:08 but then completely evaporating still all and all pretty good race really cheers for that chigggles um we were amazed by that yeah yeah I was just gonna quit to say like we Magnuson got up to was it fourth at one point four fourth place yeah it were fourth and seventh it would have even if he'd have fell back after that it would have been interesting to see him get up even further than that that would have been pretty Yep. Next up is Charlie Brackett's Carlos Sineshater. Hey all, it's Charlie submitting from Scottsdale, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And my moment of the race is Checo crashing out because I did not want to watch him drive that car anymore with his pace. That was embarrassing. And the DNF was probably better for him than if he kept going. Love the potty eyes. Keep it up. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Very embarrassing. Next time we have is Alex C-458. Hey, boys. Alex, you're live from New York City. What a chaotic race. That was so much fun. My moment of the race, got to be the first, you know, 20 laps, racing in the rain, can't see. It's a slip and slide, people on off. I love a wet weather race. So that was a lot of fun. Really great race. Safety cars. I mean, it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Sadlando couldn't steal away the wind. McLaren fumbled a bag a little bit. Got a little unlucky safety car, but I love some wet racing. Good job. A quick point on that is that I think. Weather races can be very hit and miss. Oh, yeah. Today's was a hit. Like, it was great. But like, it's not, it's a bit of a risk.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Sometimes they're not great. Today was. Next up is the thirsty platypus. Okay, thirsty here, boys. I'm with you, has worst driver of the day. Jack Villeneuve. Shut up, your flog. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:54 How many wins have you got three more than Ricardo and like 10 less podiums? Just be quiet for a change. Good rice, fellas. Be quiet for a change. Yeah, I agree. Next up is big American daddy. Yeah, yeah. Moment of the race.
Starting point is 01:02:12 George, you get extra pump a nickel for the pass on Lewis. What if I started? Extra pump a nickel for George. I got a slice for you, George. George, you've been very good, George. You can have Lewis's slice. He doesn't get any from me anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:30 No bump a nickel for you, Louis. Just busting. and make him go faster nah god we're an hour ring this is terrible yeah next up is on the button hey there lake breakers hi Sam Ben Harry
Starting point is 01:02:47 OTB here from New Zealand 6 a.m race start here this morning so it was an early one and pretty good exciting start with Haas kicking butt in the first five laps the rest I could probably sum up my moment of the race was some sphincter tightening circumstances.
Starting point is 01:03:05 First one was Piastrian Russell in the chican, and then Yuki's sliding out and nearly getting his nose wiped out. So great race. Keep it up, guys. Love the podcast. Thank you very much. See you. Underused word. Sphincter tightening circumstances is a phrase I'm going to use this week. FTCs.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Next up, Northern George. Oh, we didn't drink is calling. So. Sam will drink it. I love it at the time. No, then it's Northern George. My moment of the race has got to be the graphic of the Ferrari show in Charles of Claire, lapping 18 seconds slower than Max Verstappen, absolutely top quality by Ferrari again.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Cheers, boys. That was so six seconds a sector slower. Yeah, I don't think that was the right cool. In hindsight. In hindsight. Hello, this is the wrong number. That's how bad that call was. thankfully
Starting point is 01:04:01 Gaussar Liam has gone and Bristol Liam has returned that's good I'd like everyone to spare a moment for Ferrari's championship hopes they were from the Monaco Grand Prix
Starting point is 01:04:14 to the Canadian Grand Prix you will be missed we all loved you excellent it was a real one it's a real one for one race and finally we've got Kronenberg
Starting point is 01:04:25 uh Georgie boy how are you going to start on poll and then almost get beat by your teammate who started in seven. Too many mistakes, mate. Sharpen up. All right. Keep breaking late. I don't think that's a moment, but sure.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Get the joke sharpener out. That is, well, not everyone, but thank you everyone for submitting. So many. As a gazillion. That was a whirlwind tour through the Canadian Grand Prix. There's every chance that we've somehow missed something to happen because there was so much that did happen. So apologies if your favorite team.
Starting point is 01:04:59 favorite driver hasn't had as much airtime as they might. Quite long to mention before we go. Yes. What was Joe Guan, you doing? Nothing. How did you got to get a worse driver of the day? He's shout. No idea.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I forgot. You were here. Because no one knows what happened. Honestly, he's sorted on the timing board for so long. Anyway, sorry, carry on. Yes. We'll be back with another episode, midweek. Midweek.
Starting point is 01:05:21 So, we'll be out of it? I suppose. So, yeah, folks, power rankings. It's worth a listen. After a race like that, I think we'll have some fun discussion. There's going to be some up and down scores
Starting point is 01:05:32 I think where we might have have some differences and if the bold predictions argument there's anything to go by then you can want to get on to that one so check it out. Remember live show is now available to you thank you soldier boy
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