The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2024 Hungarian GP Review

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

Ben and Sam review the Hungarian GP where McLaren secured a historic 1-2 and Piastri became our SEVENTH winner this season - and it was not without drama! The boys break down all of the action, from the tensions and controversy of McLaren's team orders to the bad day at the office for points leader Max Verstappen... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes, historic race reviews & more! JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: SIGN UP & create your team, and JOIN our league (join code: C3PHEQHPU04) BUY our Merch SEND us something! We have a brand new PO box - address: Late Braking Podcast, PO Box 821, TRURO TR1 9PE EMAIL us at [e-mail] & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking, reviewing a spicy Hungarian Grand Prix with the McLaren duo, as they were in qualifying, first and second, but not without controversy. Oscar Pastri, taking his first win in a Grompsie.

Lando Norris in second, Lewis Hamilton for Mercedes, rounding out the podium. That doesn't tell the whole story by itself, does it some? Oh, it's all the drama, Mick. I just love it. I'm just here for that hot and spicy drama, Ben, obviously, it was, the racing was fine, right? If you're just looking at on-track action, pretty standard Grand Prix. But you know, I tell you that Hungary was going to slap, not for the reasons I said, admittedly, but it slapped.

We've got a lot to talk about. We've got a lot of submissions coming up from you lot in Discord, and there's so much could dig into quite excited. You're that kid who manages to show their workings to an exam question, get the workings completely wrong, but then somehow still end up with the right answer. Fine by me. So if I get the tick at the end, I'm a happy boy. Lovely. Like you say, moment of the race submissions will be coming up much later on. Our thoughts on the progress of both Sergio Perez and George Russell, who had to make their way

through the field today. Max Verstappen, a tough outing for him, but we are, of course, going to start out front with the two McLaren. So Oscar Piastri starting in second place on the grid, but he made a good start and got into the lead at turn one, led throughout the first couple of stints. Then came the controversy. Lando Norris pitting before Oscar Piastri, despite not being the lead car in order to protect against Lewis Hamilton. Piastri coming in two laps later, Lando Norris therefore performing the undercut, at which point McLaren asked the question of Lando Norris, can you please let Oscar back by? He doesn't do it.

He doesn't do it. There's a lot of chatter on team radio. He still doesn't do it until a couple of laps to go from the end where eventually he lets Oscar Piastri by to claim his first win. So I think the question, Sam, that is on most people's lips at this point, was he right to do so? There's a lot to dissect in the lead up to that decision on Lando, eventually letting Oscar Piashtry back through.

I think we have to look at it from the start of the Grand Prix because a problem arose today that has arisen with Landon Norris several times, not just this season, but across his rising Formula One career. And that is his race starts. He had a, I believe, I correct if I'm wrong being,

a change in throttle pedal before the Grand Prix started. Now replacement pedal putting, of course, when you've got the feel for that pedal, if you haven't ever driven a car, folks, you know, you'll need to know that the throttle, the fast pedal, quite useful for driving a car. So if you're comfortable of how it's settling on your foot, you imagine that you might get the best results.

But Landon Norris has had a few dodgy starts so far. You're casting my back to Spain recently, of course, where he started at the top, didn't go into turn one at the top anymore. And then, of course, China in the sprint Grand Prix as well, who was on the front row, got squeezed out. There you got a pole there, right? Yeah, exactly. But then got squeezed out, of course, by Lewis Hamilton,

by trying to rush around the outside and running onto the marbles and mucking that up. already this season, there's a little bit of history there between the starts, not being ideal where you need them. And I'm a track like Hungary where it is so hard to pass, you need to get that sorted. We've said it enough times. There are similarities to Monaco.

Getting the start off and running away can be very crucial to your race for them. Piastri did exactly that. He got the start. He got down the inside of his teammate. Norris was stuck between two cars, his teammate, of course, on one side, and Max was stepping on the outside, who decided that he was going to spend his entire race winging.

And then, of course, that meant that Piastri managed should get away down down the road and the gap was a couple of seconds at that point. Now, the first go round, I kind of understood why you bring in Norris first to protect from the undercut. The cars were a lot more squeezed up. Piastri had a good gap and when the pit stop stick filtering through the first time round, Piastri comes out in front or is well, all is okay. That's fine. No problems. The issues really begin the second time round because at that point, Norris and Piastri are clear of everyone else. I think there was a seven, second gap back to Hamilton come that second round of pit stops. That's a long gap to pick up even

on an undercut. You need a good two or three laps circulating, a real push pace to make up that gap. And let's remember that whilst Hamilton is going well, and that's saying is to show good form recently, it's not the fastest car here today. It's not blowing the pace away. It's not sending anyone where it shouldn't be. They've got time to make their choice here. You should be pissing pedestrian first. And I think that was McLaren's fault. I think the onus, on how that strategy call is changing is on McLaren. When you're in the car as a driver,

of course you're going to say, yeah, I'll go first, I'll have the undercutting, oh, it's powerful round here. Why would Norris say no? Why would he go, oh, no, give it to Piastri. He's in front of me.

You go on, give it to him first. He's not going to say it. I don't expect any driver to ever say that. McLaren should put their foot down and gone, hey, Piastres leading now. He gets first call. He's our lead driver, so he gets preferential treatment on pit.

They didn't. And then, of course, that the drivers were swapped. Norris kept pushing and we heard so many instances of you're wearing your tyres out. You're wearing your tyres out. Now I don't know if he actually was wearing his tyres out or if they were trying to subtly say to him you need to let off pace here. Maybe that's where Piastri was slower than Norris I'm not sure but you need to let off pace here. He kept making that gap bigger and bigger and

bigger and I think what was the problem here on whether Norris should have let Piuski through or not is how long it took to make that decision. If I'm Landon Norris, once the gap got to six seconds, a part of me thinks win the race. Because I've got the thanks on my side. I can use several measurables after I get out the car to defend myself. One, not my choice if you pit me first. I'm listening to you as strategists. I'm coming when you tell me to come in. That's not me on me so that you've given me preferential treatment. I'm following team orders. I'm coming. I've come in. Two, I built up a six second gap. It's on him to catch up to me a bit before I let him through. I don't really have to be giving up

six seconds. Cross the line. You win the race. You've got ways of defending yourself. But I think because Lando dragged it out, dragged it out, and McLaren gave guilt trip and weird messages over the radioes, remember our Sunday morning meetings, remember that you want a team around you. Why are you doing this, Lando?

You know, weird messages. So then make him give the position back that many laps in. It's the worst of all situations. You've had the fallout. You've had the argument. You've got awkward tension now between you and the teams.

Either give that position back immediately or go off and win the race. you know, because now there's friction, now there's trouble there. So I think McLaren are more at fault for the issue that they found themselves in, and it did tarnish what was a really big moment for McLaren having a one-two, then Norris was at fault for being a racing driver who got given a pit stop and found himself in the lead. Any driver would want to go on to win that race.

I get why he was putting up a fight, and if he was going to give up the position, he should have done it instantly, and I do think he should just go on to win the race after he decided to ignore them multiple times. But they're in a difficult playing field now, and I really do think they put themselves in a tricky situation, and I think it was a shame that that attitude has tarnished a very historic moment from McLaren in the modern era. I think in isolation,

Lando Norris was correct to give the position to Oscar Piastri. I think long term it makes more sense, and I appreciate there is an argument to say that what if Lando Norris ends up in a position to win the champion, ship this year. I think that's unlikely, but I understand that argument. But I think equally, McLaren have invested a lot in this driver lineup. It's one of the very few lineups that's going to span far longer than just this season. I'm sure McLaren would be quite happy if this was their lineup for the next decade to come. And maybe it could be if McLaren keep up their side of the

bargain in terms of the performance of the car and both drivers keep up their side of the bargain, which seems to be the case at the moment. So I think long term it made sense for Lando Norris under protest, because I think he has right to be aggrieved by the way that it was handled, I think Lando Norris was right to give it up on this occasion. However, I am with you that this is far more on McLaren than it is on Lando Norris. I think Lando Norris could have played it slightly better in that what I, so I actually think rather than straight away, he should have waited until, the very, very end to give this position up.

Just to prove the point is he kind of did to say, look, this is how quick I am. They said it over the radio, didn't they? They said, all right, Lando, you've made your point. You're faster. I'll give up the place. Yeah. And I had no problem because I had no problem with him giving up that on the last. I know he did it two or three laps from the end, but I would have had no problem if he

just did it right at the very end. And if he very clearly communicated that over the team radio to say, look, I'm not particularly happy with what you've done. here, but I will give Oscar the position back, but I'm not going to do it until the very end of the Grand Prix, because I don't want to give up seconds needlessly 10 laps before the end or however many laps before the end it was. And if the team, because one of the things the team said was, well, we want to get it done now just in case there's a safety car. At that point, I think Lando Norris is entitled to say, I don't care. This is on you at that point. I'm going to do it

under in my, you know, they used the term his convenience. My convenience, I'm going to do it on the last lap. And I think McLaren should have just been told at that point. Yeah, that's how I'm going to do it. So if I was Landon Norris, I would have handled it differently. But they should not have been in that position at all. How on earth McLaren have walked away with one of the best results, definitely in modern times, really in their history,

they've got a one-two here. And yet they've somehow managed to fumble the best result possible. I don't quite understand how they've put themselves in this situation. As you say, the gap between Norris and Hamilton was safe. Yes, they had to think about it, but it wasn't on a knife edge like some of the other Vostappan-Hamilton-Lacler calls that were being made. They had a relatively comfortable gap. They are comfortably the fastest car out there today. Yeah, they were far gone down the road. This should have been easily wrapped up. One, two, no debate. What they should have done was if they thought, right, just to be extra safe,

we need to pick Lando Norris around lap 45, great. Piastri's coming in 44 then. It's really as simple as that. Why on earth they didn't just pit Piastri one lap earlier than Lando Norris? I've got no idea. At that point, he would have had to have done like 26 or so laps on that set of tyres. Russell did 30 on the first stint. Sonoda did 30.

It would have been fine. I cannot understand for the life for me what they were thinking. surely you just play it safe. Yeah, they shot themselves in the foot here. I think Lando Norris will have every right to come out and go. Guys, this isn't on me. I'm not calling the strategy. We're having a line strategy.

I was behind. The norm is to pit the league driver. You didn't tell me, well, from what we heard on the radio, of course, you didn't tell me, Lando Piastri is, I don't know, two seconds in front of you. Do you want to pit first? Yes or no. It's not like they gave him that preference over the radio. They just said, box, box, in you come, giving him the undercut.

And then they come out with this situation of, we're boxing you first. Oscar is boxing after you and coming up behind you. We'll then defer to the previous order. Like, how have you, we commented on this before the race. How have you managed to overcomplicate this again? How have you managed to make it a one-two with seconds in hand? One of the most over-complicated situations that you could have on a race. Every other thing will be dying for this result.

For a one-two with ten seconds in hand, and you've managed to punish it and make it difficult to swallow. The worst part is at this exact racetrack, Mercedes gave an almost identical version of how it's meant to be done with Hamilton of Bottas. Yeah, yeah. Hamilton said,

100%. Let me through, I'm going to go for it. I'll get it back on the last lap. Hamilton on the last corner of the last lap. Pulls out the way, Bottas comes through, beats him. Not to wing, I get it, but that's how you orchestrate a team attack.

And I think there's a little part of me that I think Lando wanted to be seen I'm number one. I'm fast enough. I've made my point. I remember when Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez were close to each other at Brazil, and they said, Max, can you move out the way of Sergio, please?

So he needs the points, can you let him through? And Max went, I'm not doing it, don't ask me again to do it. I think Lando had that in his mind, and I think he was like, I'm the big dog around town, and asserted himself. I think it was the wrong time to do it. I think that's how it came out. See, I think the situation was still salvageable

after what I thought. McLaren, I think, made a horrendous error not putting Piastri first, but I still think it was salvageable because, and maybe there's a specific reason they did this, but that I don't know, but I can't make sense of it. They don't wait until the next lap to pit Oscar Piastri.

They wait two laps. Why? Because if Oscar Piastri, obviously he's out there on old tires at that point, that gap is just getting bigger and bigger, I am pretty convinced if Oscar Piastri pits the next lap rather than in two laps time, that gap is rather than three and a half, four seconds,

that gap is actually one and a half seconds, two seconds. I think at that point, Landon Norris just lets him by right there and then. And I think that was, they'd be told they can fight, I imagine. And I think that was their biggest problem was Lando Norris, I don't think he was fully against giving up the position. I think he was just against the fact that he would have to slow up by four seconds to make it happen. If that gap is, and again, it shouldn't have even reached this point.

But the fact that it did, if that gap is one second, one and a half seconds, I think they just make it work. And I think Lando Norris says, okay, I'll let him by and we'll go fighting for the rest of this then. And based on the pace that Lando Norris had for the rest of Grand Prix, maybe it is a fight and it would have been a legitimate fight. This was all unnecessary, completely unnecessary. I also think the radio comes went too far on both sides. I think they went down too many weird emotional routes to trying gaslight and Norris into feeling bad about what was going on. You know, McCarrow made the mistake as we've just been through. If you're four or five seconds clear of your teammate and extending the gap, being told, oh, you know, you remember your mate.

Remember we're a team. We're in it together. It's just like the guy is winning because you put him there. You could, you have the decision to go the other way around. And Landon must have said, tell him to speak up, please. you know, why don't, I'm doing what I need to do. I am the league driving right now. You put me here.

I don't want more. He even said, why didn't you pit him first then over the radio? It was just a very confusing situation to see such an inter-team battle going on between a scene that has been so harmonious and should be celebrating a historic moment. Yeah. It honestly has baffled me how they've managed to get to this point. and a discussion we were having before we started recording. And I'm not, I agreed with the point of producer Kirstie that I'm not convinced

Oscarpies Astridi would have been doing cartwheels if, you know, if he had claimed the win in a different fashion. But equally, it is still a, it is still a historic moment for him personally. And it is somewhat tarnished by the way that McLaren has, has handled this. It's just, I don't know, we're talking. about a one two. It's a McLaren one too. They've been excellent all weekend in terms of the car. And yet there's still other parts of the race that we're talking about because they've fabricated this situation. 12 years, isn't it? 12 seasons since a one two. Like that is mind-blowingly good

for this team who three seasons ago were fighting for fourth or fifth in the championship. And they've just won by one-two by 10 seconds after slowing up. I think Piastri knows he got the lead back by watching his teammates slow up by six seconds. I think that's why he was probably a little bit subdued crossing the line. And I actually think the next time Piastri wins, and I said this on our live stream, when he does wing again, he will win again. I think he might be a little bit more excited about it. Because if it comes under just standard racing conditions for him,

I think he will see it as I won that. That was me. I won it. Whereas I think he did kind of have to be not gifted because he earned it. But at the same time, there was some intervention. Yeah, I think Piastri can hold his head high because, you know, when Lando Norris had the opportunity to on pace beat Oscar Piastri, he couldn't. And he didn't. You know, we did have that first set of stops where he didn't pull off the undercut. We had the start of the race where Piastri was the one who got ahead. There were opportunities before what happened for Lando Norris to take the lead if he had the pace to do it. And he didn't. So I think Oscar Piatry can, walk away from this and say, you know, I might have needed some intervention to win this late on, but equally, that situation shouldn't have even happened to begin with.

And the bits that I can control, I was not overtaken by Lando Norris. Yeah, the only reason I think that the strategy played out like it did, I'm slightly speculating, is they went to obviously undercut with Norris to protect, some using quotation marks there, they didn't need to protect, but I think that's what the Clarenorne were trying to go. Then they overthought. Yeah, yeah, that's what they did against Hamlet. And then I think the reason that they waited two laps of Piastri is because Piastri was on the official forecasting strategy, right? That was the expected lap to stop on.

So they went, we protected the gap for Piastri's big enough. If we can wait the two laps, we'll do the pit. I don't think they thought about the repercussions of what that might mean between their own drivers and we're too busy thinking about what's going on out here rather than what's going on in their own house. And you've got to get your organs in your own house right first before you start thinking about everything else that's going on. If that was their line of thinking, that is amateurish. That would be utterly ridiculous. You adapt to the race conditions. It was very clear that, okay, if Hamilton's going to become a factor,

it's not going to happen just like that. Like, okay, he's not a factor. Oh, suddenly he is. We need to pit Lano Norris. You can see that happening. Laps out. You know you have a rough idea. Okay, we're going to need to box Lano Norris probably around lap 45.

At that point, it's so easy. okay, Piastri comes in the lap before. Like, it's really not rocket science, how they've managed to get themselves in this situation. We see adaptability when it comes to the strategy all the time in F1. If we're going to say, Nika Holkenberg pitted on lap three, that was nowhere near the expected strategy call. But as we'll get onto maybe a bit later on,

you could claim it worked. He was ahead of his teammate. He was ahead of the two Williams drivers. He was ahead of others that when he pitted, you know, when he pitted, drivers that were ahead of him have now finished behind him. You adapt to what's happening in the Grand Prix. And I just think McLaren are completely to blame as to why this is a situation to begin with. Yeah, agreed.

I do think now that I think I can have done more, but agree that this is on McLaren. Who was driver of the day, Sam? I'm going to give it to Oscar Pescribe. I think that his start was fantastic. The gap he built him at the start was really, really good. I was worried that he was burning through his tyres too much because at one point, mistakes started to creeping. I know there were mistakes.

It's only usual skiff driver of the day to someone who, Ralph had a track a couple of times, cut a little wavy moments, but it was also under a lot of pressure. And I think he did well to delivering a tricky situation where Strachke went against him in his own team. So for me, I'm giving it to Piazcri, although I do think callouts,

I think Norris was still fantastic. I think Hamilton had a really good drive today. That's it. That's what I'm going to mention. I thought there were a few contenders. Oscar Piatry was one of them. The reason I'm not going to give it, to him and it's a bit of an unknown. We know that last in, Lando Norris was a lot quicker than

Oscar Piastri. And I don't know whether it was a case of Piastri was just doing what the team told him to in terms of tire management and Norris didn't, therefore that gap opened up. Or if Piastri was genuinely pushing as much as Norris and just couldn't keep up with him. And that's a difficult one to know. I want to give a shout out to Shao LeClaire. I thought he had a very good drive. It did. And my driver of the day, though, is Yuki Suno. I thought he pulled off a wonderful strategy to go so late on those medium tires in the first stint. He went, I can't remember if Russell might have just gone longer than him, or maybe it was the same lap. But everyone else around him that went long was on the hard tires.

He went a long way on the medium tires where other drivers around him were all going for undercuts. He just ran his own race. And as a result of that, he's beaten his main rivals. There was nothing else that Sonoda could have achieved in that Grand Prix. so he was my driver of the day. Yeah, once again, scored more points of Daniel Ricardo after starting behind him in the Grand Prix.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Worst driver of the day? I'm going to go with, we wouldn't do this normally, Max for Stappen. Mainly because GP has had to literally tell him to be quiet and stop being a winky little baby,

but also, he did just drive straight into Lewis Hamilton. He rang off the track all on his own. He couldn't get moves on when he needed to. He overtook off track and then had to give it back. There was a lot of errors from Max Verstappen to go that are very much unexpected, uncharacteristic. And whilst I judged him more harshly than others

because of his quality, he didn't got dry brilliantly well today. And I think there is a penalty in coming for his way, which will probably put him back behind Carlos Sainzai's science as well. So Bastaping is worse driving the day. I don't think there were any egregiously bad performances today. No, I think you're right. I think that's a fair shout. I've gone for worst driver of the day as Joe Guan Yu, only because...

He was slow. He was slow, but at least... And I don't think the quote-on-quote upgraded Salba was fantastic. But Valtrey Bottas at least qualified it well and was in the mix with other drivers. Bottas has beaten Sargent, he's beaten Ocon. He was in that fight for most of the day. Joe Guan Yu never really was. so I've gone for him.

Yeah, slow, Guangyu is what we saw today. Oof, that's a rough way to end this first part of this podcast. On the other side, we're going to be chatting more about Max Verstappen. So we've discussed the race out front. Oscar Piastri taking the win, Lando Norris in second. A little bit further back from that, it was a three-car fight for the remaining podium spot between the Mercedes of Lewis Hamilton, the Ferrari of Chal-A-Claire, and the driver that at least started in third.

which was the Red Bull of Max Verstappen. Vestappen had a tough day, as we will get on to in a moment. He finished P5 on track. At point of recording, we don't know whether he'll pick up a penalty for what happened with Lewis Hamilton. Like Sam said before the break, my instinct is he will get a penalty. And that fifth place might well become sixth behind signs. But looking at his Grand Prix today, Sam,

we had the incident, of course, at the first corner. we had multiple attempts to get by Lewis Hamilton that failed. What went wrong for him? Everything. Well, if you believe the commentary team, he's setting up too late sim racing. And he just needed a good night's sleep, honestly. I'm biting. Bloak, bloody won a race last time we did that.

So let's got, you know, come on. Shut up. Pack it in. I think he's just been having a bit of a bad time. I think there's something a little bit unsettling of him in the car at the moment. he's not happy with how the car is either being set up or how the car is feeling underneath him. And we're starting to see that reappear. I think he's now slightly overdriving and being slightly over ambitious. And he's letting his emotions get the better of him where he's not able to get to the front.

And I get it, it must be so frustrating to go from being so dominant at the start of the season. You know, all those pole positions, multiple wins. So they're now barely being able to get close to the top two on regular occasion. it's going to be tough. You know, he obviously got taken out in or was part of the reason why they crashed in Austria and then in Britain, couldn't get close to Hamilton at Silverstone

due to the issue. He was slow there, kind of managed to play himself back in the strategy. And we come to Hungary and he's kind of nowhere near again, really. He got beaten by Landon Norris handedly and qualifying in the end of it and couldn't get out the front row. So I think he's just getting a bit frustrated,

and that's okay. It's going to happen. He's regather himself and put it back together. But there was, Instant after instinct. I think first corner, he had a good old moan and the irony of Max Verstappen saying he drove me off the track, oh, FIA, is that how we want a race now?

Is it fine, that's how we're going to start doing things after season after season and rules being changed to match how Max Verstappen has been driving cars off the track. The irony of him moaning that someone drove him off the track while Madangoros had a car up his inside was quite amusing. I also think it went under the radar that Max Verstappen Hamper Lewis Hamilton going into turn three. He gave the position back to Landon Norris eventually after being told by the team.

And I think that, I think Lewis Hamilton got put out by that. He got squeezed immensely by Max going through turn three and four. He and Lewis lost the position to Landon Norris because of that as well. I do think that if Max had not kept position off track, Lewis Hamilton would probably be in second place as we finished the first lap. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You know?

Yeah. So I think that I think the Mac's gone a little bit lucky or having to give back two places, let alone the one, which he eventually did, of course. And then it just kind of went downhill for him, didn't it? He didn't feel like the car was working for him. We then go into the battle with Lewis Hamilton

where he believes he was squeezed off track again, the irony of it. I thought Lewis put up a fantastic defensive performance against Max Verstappen. I thought he played a blinder. I thought the amount of well-positioned moments from Lewis, I thought the way he lined his car up, the way he ran Max all the way around the outside

through turn three was fantastic. He was so difficult to get past today. I don't know if he took a leaf out of Fernando Alonso's book when Lewis had to get past him a couple of years ago, of course. But he was sublime. I thought the defensive performance was sublime, and that, of course, meant that he just got more and more riled up by what was going on.

And then eventually we see Max just essentially, it felt like not want a break for the corner. It felt that felt to me, remember how we had the conversation about a week ago about penalty points and slightly dangerous driving that felt like he lost his head. It felt like he just completely didn't want a break for that corner. He's just going to send it down the inside without any consequences.

And I think it was quite lucky that Lewis Hamilton didn't lose a wheel and Max Verstappen wasn't out of that Grand Prix. I really do think a split second either way, both those drivers are out. And we've had a massive collision at turn one. I think that was really quite dangerous from Max Verstappen. And I think he did it with Red Mist. I think he did it angrily.

And when he got out of the car at the end of the Grand Prix, he told medical to bug her off, basically. He didn't want to be seen by anyone. I think he's lost his head today. It's gone down the drain for him. I think he's going to get a penalty, rightly so. It just wasn't his day, was it? No, and it was quite apparent very early on

because his mentality and his attitude just wasn't there today. And it's rare because we're so used to seeing him do far better. And the fact is he'll still claim. some decent points from the Grand Prix, even with that penalty. But he just, he wasn't on it today. He was overdrive in the car, as you mentioned. Now, I will say he is angry with his team strategically. And firstly, it's quite rare that Red Bull are poor strategically, but he has right to be angry. Like, Red Bull messed up today. I do not. They are usually on it, but they allow. themselves to get played by the other teams.

And his whole point of trying to make up for what the strategy team have done, I think is correct. I think he was having to work very hard to get back into the position he was in at the start. It's not like he was having to work hard to make up positions from that starting place. He was just having to work hard to get back to where he was to begin with. He got undercut, left, right and center, right? Yes.

He got undercut, obviously, in the first. It got undercut in the second stint. And my problem, particularly on the first stint, and I think they were a little bit better on the second stint, is that they're not the only team that's guilty of this, but when you are overcut, you've got two options. You either respond the next lap or you go the other direction, you go far longer. They didn't leave it long enough, I don't think, on that first stint. I thought they were going to go longer than they did. It's what four laps? Yeah. And it's enough of a tire delta to get you into position. he was versus Hamilton, but not enough of a tire delta to make it a slam dunk pass as they would like. And I just felt like if they left it a couple laps longer on that first in, firstly, you just increase your chance of a safety car or a VSC as well. Obviously, that didn't happen, but you don't know that when you're playing the strategy. I just think that might have played a little bit better for them. They just didn't, they were left in no man's

land for both calls. And I can understand Vestappen's frustration about that. So I don't think the Red Bull team are faultless today. I don't think they were very good at all. But in terms of Vastappan standard of driving, it was poor. It was very poor and it was desperate at times. I think the move around the outside of turn three that didn't pay off for him is a fair enough attempt, but obviously he doesn't pull that off. The move that caused contact into turn one, it's desperation. I don't think there's any malice behind it. I just think at that point he is going gung-ho into the corner. Maybe he makes it stick.

Maybe the tyres respond. Maybe they don't. But I... Do you think that's acceptable, though, in a Formula 1 car at that speed, gung-ho into a corner with someone turning across the front of you? No, that's dangerous.

Definitely not. That's why we'll get a penalty for him. rightly so. I mean, it was a poor move. And I, look, I think this is Vastappen's mentality of, and we've spoken about this before, when Vestappen came into F1,

he had a very clear objective. he wanted to be a world champion, but he has constantly said, he doesn't care how many. Like, he wanted a world championship. That was his objective. And I think it's reflected in his rather race-by-race mentality. He just, he sees a position in front of him. And I don't think he's thinking of the championship. And it's completely fair enough as well, by the way, to have drivers who think differently. Some drivers in that spot go for the championship, 15 points or 12 points. Lewis Hamilton is one of those drivers. Sure.

Vastappan, I don't think things that way. I think Vestappan's mentality is I'm a racer. If I see a position, I'm going to go for it. I just want to win everything in front of me. And in some situations like we saw today, that doesn't work out for him. But yeah, he was childish on the radio, as was called out by his engineer.

And I think he was right. I think some of his comments were way to, emotion. Very, full on at his team. They try to do their job. Yeah. You know, we all have bad days, but swearing like that of your team over the radio that many times,

why do you get him, mate? And lastly, just to address the first corner and my view on that, I think if Lando Norris does not have a car to his right-hand side, he has a fair point because I don't want to see drivers being forced off the racetrack when they are side-by-side into a corner. but the fact is Vostappen made that three-wide knowingly.

They didn't need to keep going. As soon as you commit to that being three-wide, and to be fair to Vestappen, he's probably looking at that and saying, this might be my only chance of taking victory today. And I think as soon as you make that free-wide, you know that Piastri is going to cause Lando Norris to go slightly wide, and Lando-Norris is not going to have the room to do anything about it. So you just back out.

And I think that was telling of his overall mentality today was that he wasn't, he wasn't fussed enough to play the championship game and just, you know, sit back a little bit in that first corner. He wants to go for it. And yeah, I don't think there was any, any basis to his question of why he should give that place back. Yeah, it was an all-long nothing day for him, wasn't it? It very quickly turned into nothing.

What did you make of Hamilton getting third place and LeCleur getting fourth? So we know that they made up positions based on their qualifying attempts. They weren't maybe as competitive with McLaren as they wanted to be, but equally some good points for both teams. Yeah, really good points for both teams. I was very impressed with Lewis Hamilton today. I really do think he had a very strong race day. I thought the only time that he was a little bit off the boil

was as the tires started to die off and he couldn't keep up with the McLaren's. But then again, I do think that McLaren was the best car today was superior. but he was racing alongside Bostaffer on multiple occasions. I've stayed already. I thought his defensive ability out there was fantastic. And I really do think that if he doesn't make that defensive maneuver stick, the race pangs out to be completely different. Max Wastaffel could get down the road.

Max Wrenner doesn't get as annoyed. You know, strategy is able to play out much simpler. I think Hamilton has to put the car where he does. And he makes it work. I was really quite impressed with how, because we have been really critical of Hamilton in defensive times over the last couple of years. we've said how it's just leaving the inside open.

He's not paying attention to where cars are attacking him. He seemed almost off the boil with it. But today, I thought he was sublime in defense. And I, you know, what I send his praises for it, I really thought it was good. LeCler, I thought, made the most out of a crud car. I thought that that Ferrari is still the worst car out of all of those teams. And I thought he was consistently in the mix. Yes, he benefited from Hamilton and Bostap and battling on multiple occasions.

But they played the strategy pretty well. You saw it, and we brought it up early with Bostappen being annoyed at the strategy being left out to dry. The moment Hamilton came in for that undercut, the Clare was right there behind them, instantly, right in the pit lane behind them, mirroring that strategy, clinging on to the back of a faster car, and it almost paid off for them. The moment Vastapa got back past the Claire, he fell back again. But then, of course, he benefited from the mistake Bistapa makes later on anyway. So I think Ferrari can walk away knowing that their drivers did pretty much everything they could do today. the car is where the problem is. Equally, Hamilton is now in front of Sergio Perez.

Hamilton's got a bigger gap to George Russell in the championship order. I think Hamilton will be very pleased with how the end of this first half of the season has gone for him. Yeah, I don't have too much to add on Hamilton's race. I thought he did very well defensively too. The only thing I would maybe question was the middle stint. I think he went out a little bit too hard on those hard tires. He was really pushing them early on. And I think that caught up to him later on in that stint.

that's nitpicking. I think he still had a very good race. From Ferrari's perspective, I've already mentioned Charle-le-Claire. I thought he had a very good race. I think Ferrari were a little bit better today than I thought they were going to be. They were relatively competitive if you take out McLaren. But yeah, I think Charle-Lac had a good race. Strategy-wise, I'm in two minds. I can understand, I can completely understand why they did what they did when he, like you say, he followed Lewis Hamilton and into the box, you know, the second time around. The only downside to that is LeCleur had three stints. His shortest stint was the hard tires,

the two longest stints were the medium tires. He had to go 29 laps or so on those medium tires to the end. I know it's hindsight. If it was me, I think I would have just committed him to going long on that middle stint and forgetting about Hamilton and then seeing if you could make something of it late on. I think as soon as, I think a box opposite call. there would have been best. If Vastappan and Hamilton, neither of them come in, make the play.

If either of them come in, keep going and just, he had a tire advantage at that point. Keep working that tire advantage if you've got a bit of clean air if one of them comes in and then make a slightly later stop for those medium tires. I also think Carlos Sines, who had an okay race as well, I think they had a bit of a luxury of they knew, unless they did something horribly wrong. They weren't going to get any worse than six with Carlos Sines. As a result of that, I think they could have been a little bit more creative with the strategy. I'd have left him out a lot longer on the middle stint to give him a far shorter last in. Just because I don't think he had any threat from Perez or Russell based on how the race was going. And I don't think they took

advantage of that. I think the one, I know it's totally small, the one critique I would have of Ferrari was again, using that luxury to pick up something like the fastest lap of the Grand Prix. you know, it's only a point, but when you have got the luxury, a point could matter for your drivers. And it's always a nice thing I'm going with the fastest lap trophy or whatever it is that you get. So I think they probably could have taken abse of job it.

You know, it wasn't a disaster weekend for the drivers. Considering how bad Ferrari had been recently, this wasn't a disaster. Let's have a look at big brain strap, shall we? What have you gone for in this race? I've gone from McLaren pitting Lando Norris first and then deciding to destroy any rivalry or happiness that they have.

in their own team and ruining a monumental occasion. We appreciate the content. Thank you. Thanks, McLaren. My big brain strat. I've already mentioned it so far in this episode, but Hass pity Niko Holcomberg on, I think it was lap three. I thought he had a problem he was in so early.

Well, I thought it was a very clever play from them. And I've got to give Hass a lot of credit for their strategy calls recently. I think they're getting this right a lot more than they're getting it wrong. Nika Holkenberg does not have a good start to this Grand Prix. Kevin Magnuson gets ahead of him. I think Holkenberg is down a few positions. He's around 15th or so. I think 15th is right.

After the first lap, Hasse know they've got a pretty quick car in a straight line. I completely understand the decision to not get caught in that queue that was forming. We saw one behind Fernando Alonzo, which was quite substantial. Just get out of that straight away. He's at the fastest lap, which proved their point. And then, yes, you are having to protect a little bit. And I know the Aston Martin's got back by him,

but I don't think there was anything that was going to stop that from happening. He has beaten his teammate, who again was four or five positions ahead of him after that first lap. He's beaten Alex Albon, who was consistently ahead of him in that first lap as well. So I think actually, even though he's only finished 13th place, it was the right call for Has to do it. So that's why I'm giving them big brain strap. Yeah, I don't think they had the car to really beat the RBs or the Askins today. I think that was as good as it was getting. And we might as well review some bold predictions as well.

Oh, good. I'm really looking forward to this bit of the podcast that we do, Ben. Sam, what was your bold prediction? I predicted that Al Paine would be in the top nine, both cars. Ben, where did they finish? One of them was in the top 19. Good. And where's the other one, Ben? I haven't heard you mention his name. Pierre Gasly, he retired. He was the only retirement. So we just get the Abacus out. So 18th place gives you no points. 20th place gets you no points. add those together

and you get no bold prediction point. Good. You know what? I'm so glad the live stream went well and I'm so glad we had a good race because I am fuming and how that went. Yeah, real close call that one.

Harry's bold prediction, not that he get a point anyway because he's not here to collect it, but he said that two Astor Martin to be in the top six, well, six wasn't it? Top six is what he said, yeah. Yeah, which after qualifying wasn't looking too bad.

They qualified seventh and eighth. and they had the soft tires to start this Grand Prix around a load of medium runners and I was a bit, if there's a couple of retirements here, I was a quaking in my booze a little bit. If there was a crash, if that Vastapin moment turned into a crash,

the options were there. And then Leclair, sorry, signs got by Alonzo and it was very clear that that wasn't going to be right. So that's all good. My bold prediction was wrong, but I don't care because I predicted that Charles Leclair

was going to win this Grand Prix. He finished fourth, which doesn't classify as a win, I'm afraid. However, who has two thumbs and put Oscar Piastri as their two-time's driver? This guy! Nicely down, well done. I'm still going to find a way to be like 10 positions down, I'm sure. But I am happy about that. This is where everyone else has used their like times three on Piastri.

You didn't. No, I had shocker for fantasy. I had Russell as my times two. I had Norris as my other driver. at Hamilton, Holkhammerg and Senoda and my team. That might be right. I think, oh, dango. The scoring's weird.

You might get a load of points for Russell, like, making up a ton of positions. Yeah, maybe, maybe. I mean, we'll see. We'll see. As long as I'm not plummeting, I don't think it's going to be it. I'll regroup for the summer break. I dare say you might still be ahead of Harry. Let's take our second break on this episode.

We're going to be talking more about Perez and Russell in their fight through the field right after this. Sergio Perez and George Russell did not have a good time of it in qualifying. Both of them exited in Q1. So they both started on the hard tire in this race to try and go long on that first in to see if they can make something of the Grand Prix.

As it happens, Sergio Perez recovers to P7, George Russell recovers to P8. So they do end up in the points, but ultimately a long way from the top six in terms of competition. Do you think they got everything out of this rate they could, sir? Yeah.

I think a track like Hungary, which can be so difficult to navigate yourselves through, I do think they got the most out of it. I was very intrigued by their difference in strategy, because they started right next to each other and were on the same tyre,

of course. Russell, I think, was the longest runger on that hard tyre. I think he was the last person to come in first, which I're respecting, it makes sense to one play for your safety card or play for a red flag.

You know, there was definitely a chance of it happening around somewhere like Hungary. You can have a, if you get some red, flag, he's driving around in sixth or seventh, I think it was, maybe eight. He's in there on actual fresh tires actually fighting for the Grand Prix. Makes total sense. Perez is something a bit different.

He's stopped early and tried to undercut all the people that were around him. And I think it worked a lot better than they were expecting. It's like all the Red Bull strategy left for Stappen this race and went to Perez. His pace was pretty consistent. He managed to make his way through traffic to a reasonable degree. And then the strategy worked out. And they ended up beating Russell by, I think it was. eight or nine seconds overall, which I think,

considering in Perez's pace, considering how bad is being around the European tracks, that's not a bad recovery. The sad thing is he had to recover from both of them did, but Perez more so because he crashed the car rather than, you know, got stuck out on a bag lap and a bag strategies we heard from Russell in the qualifying review.

So I don't know how much more they really were getting out of this. I don't think they were going to beat any of their teammates, for example. I don't think Russell or Perez were getting close to Vastapel or Hamilton, and they were going to get near the front two. So that means you've basically got the Ferraris in front of them. I think they were just a bit too far, go on, unfortunately, with how this race plays out. So a good recovery after a self-inflicted poor Saturday.

Yeah. They both Max their Grand Prix. There was nothing else for both of them. Seventh and eighth was the best they could get. And the fastest lap, of course. Yeah, in the conditions, obviously. If they qualify better, I'm sure that something else could have been on the table. But seventh and eighth based on their starting positions was correct.

And I think they both played the strategy. game well in that I say they played it well. I think it was their only option really. They had to go long and they would have been delighted to see early on the amount of cars that went in for an early pit stop. So we know Holcomburg came in very early, but then we had Albon, Magnuson, Rikado, Alonzo, stroll one a bit longer, but nearly all of the cars that they couldn't make, because they weren't making overtakes on track when the tire deficit was, when there wasn't the tire deficit, which I think is fair, given how difficult it is to overtake around Hungary. But they kind of, you know, all of those cars, or nearly all of those cars, made their way

backwards. And because, again, Alonso seemed to be struggling a little bit, even on the new tires in that second stint, it just meant that they could actually extend that advantage over some of these cars rather than lose out despite being on older tires. It just made the workload a little bit easier for both of them. And of course, when they did come into the pits, as you say, George Russell goes like 30 laps. Perez wasn't that far behind. It just meant that they had new tires and could make a few overtakes relatively simply. It wasn't too difficult for them. And I said yesterday with Sergio Perez, he will naturally be gutted about the crash because it's a crash in qualifying. You never want that. But equally, I think he'd be extra annoyed and because of how good

I thought he could have been in this race. His face was good. He had a pretty good Friday in terms of race pace in practice. And I said that. And I think if he had started somewhere, even put him eighth. I think he can at least stay with the lead fight in this Grand Prix. But as it happens, even after a good Grand Prix, he's coming away with, you know, 7th place, McLaren are coming away with a first and a second.

And this is the sort of Grand Prix where, if Vastappen's not on his A game, which he definitely wasn't, you want Perez there backing him up. And even with Vestappen having a horrible day, he'll still be one or two positions ahead of his teammates. So on the day, I think pretty good from both of them, but they were hampered by what happened yesterday. Yeah, 14 points for Red Bull plays 43 for McLaren. You know, that's a 25 point swing there. That's pretty meaty when the gap's only about 100 points in the constructors. you know, that can come down quick if that keeps happening.

Let's have a quick look at Aster Martin and R.B. So both of them started inside the top 10. So we had seventh and eighth for Aster Martin, ninth and 10th for RB. The way that it finished, Yuki-Sinoda will pick up two points in ninth. Landstrol picked up the last point in 10th with Alonzo and Ricardo just outside the points. It felt like, at least to me, Sam, that these two teams definitely separated themselves from the teams further back than them, but equally couldn't pose a challenge

to the four teams ahead of them. And of course, with only one retirement to an Alpine, there weren't many points on offer. But out of those two teams, those four drivers, how do you rate their days? Yeah, I think this is what they would have expected to have happened, right? They looked at Russell and Perez behind them and gone, they're not there because of pace.

They're there because of mistakes. And if they have a good standard Grand Prix Sunday, they're going to find their way in front of us. Those cars are just much faster. than the Aces and the RB. So I think logically, as that scene, you need to say, if you're Askin Martin, you go, we need both of our cars to be ninth and tenth. Not one of each or not both RBs being like the dead.

There should be both of ours. RB will come away the happiest, of course. They walked away with two points. Asking Martin will walk away with one point. What's interesting is you argue the two more experienced drivers are the ones that both of them have not finished inside the points, which is quite interesting. Yuki-Sin-Odo will be by far the happiest.

I think you were right to call him out as one of the drivers of the day at the start of the recording that we've done. Sangoostrowski was fantastic. He made the tyres really sing for himself. He was putting up a really good defence to launch Stroll as well. I think, you know, Stroll was having a good race generally and was kind of harrying along Sengroa quite a lot of the Grand Prix. I think they finished with, I've got down on my notes here,

less than a second between them is what I've got as the gap between. So they were close for along the Grand Prix. And I do think that overall, whilst they're close together, I think the Asken probably just has the legs on the RB. So I think that's a bit of a success for his. Senoda. He could probably pat himself on the back. I think Alonso is going to be quite annoyed. He's seemed quite grumpy the whole way through the Grand Prix and the fact he's been beaten to a point by his teammate again. This is what the third or fourth time in a row now that

strollers, I think, outdriven Fernando Alonso. He's not a happy bunny in that car at the moment, even with the fact that they are somewhat back to expected form. It's not going the way he wants it to. Ricardo will be the one that's gutted. Strategy was a bit different. Didn't pay off for him. He got stuck endless timers behind other traffic. The amount of times I saw him fighting a salver or something of the like really hampered him, slowed him down. He did well, I think, to get back on to the back of that

fight with a long-so stroll and Sengoda again. But it just wasn't his day. It just kept going the wrong way for him. So I would rank them in the order they finished. I do think, though, that Ricardo, especially Strachie, did not play into his hands. Yeah, definitely. Particularly on that first stop, it just didn't work out for him at all.

Whereas, you know, the others, you know, Alonso had track position. Strull went longer and Sonoda went way longer, whereas Daniel Ricardo was the one who was just stuck behind slower cars for a long time. They somewhat made up for it by pitting him first out of everyone on the second stop, and that got him ahead of the likes of the Hass and the Williams drivers. But at the same time, that of course just meant he never had the tires to compete with the three cars in front of him. So I don't really hold it against Ricardo that he's out of the points here.

Fernando Alonso and Landstrol is an interesting one. So I understand why they started on the soft tires because it did prove to be a very good starting tire, did the softs. Alonzo got a position ahead of a Ferrari, but we also saw with some other soft runners. Albon, for example, he made up positions. Five, I think. Yeah, I think Magnuson started on the softs. He made up a good number of spots.

So it did prove itself to be a good starting tire. And I can understand why Aston Martin, even if they're not looking at the cars in front of them, are looking at the cars behind them and thinking, we can't get beaten off the line by them. We're just going to go with a soft tire to start things off and we're going to dictate strategy from here. I thought when Fernando Alonzo Pitt for medium tires that they were playing a strategic game of,

Alonzo is holding up everyone behind him. Lance Stroll is going to use that to get ahead and then Lanchdoll is going to come out ahead of Alonzo and with fresher tires. So essentially just securing Landstrol away from that fight. That's what I thought they were playing. And then Alonzo came on the team radio and it was apparent that, no, that wasn't what they were doing. It would have been a fairly good strategy, I thought.

But they just, I don't know, Alonso just didn't seem to have a great deal of pace. No, I thought he was kind of slow. Yeah. And obviously, Lance Stroll late on made up, he had the fresher tires. He was able to get by his teammate. But I thought that was curious. I just thought that that was maybe the strategy. Because that essentially enabled Yuki Sonoda and his strategy to work.

He just got a bigger and bigger gap behind him because he just kept going. Yeah. And, you know, we had Gassley and the early stopping Holcombberg. They were in the mix with all of these cars behind them. And Yuki Sonoda is just he doesn't have to worry about the other cars. He's just doing his own pace. And then he comes into the pits. And he doesn't even need to make many overtakes in that Grand Prix, Yuki Sonoda.

He's just automatically ahead of all of those cars. cars that have stopped earlier. So, yeah, I thought it was, I thought they were on something strategically, Aston Martin, and then it appeared that they weren't. And actually, yeah, I think they've probably cost themselves one point, maybe two. They'll get away with it. They'll get away with it. Question from me, because when we obviously, you see the cars all open up and we saw all three

tire compounds on cars at the start, unusual, which I love that we saw it. Were you a little bit surprised that there were that many soft tire runners? because obviously we didn't know the immediate benefit of getting off the line before this happened. I was shocked at how many were running that soft tire. I think based on the track, I wasn't overly surprised because track position is so important at Hungary. And ironically, it didn't really work for the likes of the Astor Martins and for Kevin Magnuson and a couple of others. But I wasn't overly surprised because if you can't, if those soft tires just hold on enough in that first stint, then suddenly you, you've opened up the strategy playbook

and if you're a team like Magnus, if you like Hass and you're Magnuson and you make up four positions on the first lap or however many it was, suddenly you've got all of these cars behind you, you've got a very quick car in a straight line, maybe you can make something work. They couldn't, but I didn't mind it.

I don't mind a punt like that when you're outside of the points. You think this could be the kind of the throws a strategy out the window, it might open the door for something new as we go. It's incredibly odd, but I'm not saying this was the only reason why this happened, but Nika Holkenberg, of course, started comfortably ahead of his teammate,

not on the soft compound. Yeah. He doesn't get a good start, and that enables him to make the strategy call of pitting on lap three. You know, he's a cent, Holkenberg has essentially benefited from a bad start because he was then the one that was in this situation of, I might as well pit on lap three.

Weirdly, by accepting it was. poor, he went, take all the hits now. Let's go for something different. I respect it. And it worked. He finished two percent ahead of Manxen. So, yeah, I can understand it. Okay, we're going to take our final break on this episode. We've got Moment of the Race submissions right after this. Okay, one final segment on today's episode. It is, of course, as always, on these race reviews, moment of the race. We do have plenty of submissions from our Discord members. We'll get to those very short. but before we do, Sam, what was your moment of the race?

We love a good reggae message here at late breaking and we even give out an LB for best regia message of the season and I am going to give it to GP calling Max Verstappen childish. It's not often you hear a world champion in a race get called childish and I thought it was funny. I had a right old giggle about it because he was being a bit of a kid. So well done, GP. Your patience is saintly, but you really were a warm thing today.

my moment of the race is the Charle LeCleur's race engineer when LeCleur was leading and everyone else had already come into the pits and he came over team radio to say, this is really good driving and I just love the message.

It was the nicest thing that they've ever said to Shao LeClau. It's just LeCleur getting that positive affirmation of you're doing really good driving. I feel like he needs that as well, LeClau. I feel like he thinks. thrives on positive affirmation, you know. I don't know. It just made me chuckle. I think it was the exact wording of it that just made me chuckle.

But yeah, really good driving, Charles. That is funny. Right then, we shall go to our community. We had so, so many, understandably, because there was so much drama. So many of you are so passionate about your drivers, of course. So we're going to kick off with two individuals that were at the Grand Prix. It's lovely to hear from them again. It's Real Dad and James.

This is Real Dad and James, live in Hungary. It's very loud moment of the race. Our month of the race is definitely the dogfight between Lurzheimer and Vustappen, ultimately ending with Lerzhamerton, Punting, Mastopin off the track. There's not been a penalty given yet. It's also not an investigation. But Lewis has always been to clear in position now.

So, yeah, and we'll hear from our moment of the hotel from that now. My hotel, Real Dad, meeting. Ting. Oh my God, look at this. Watching the replay now of Hamilton hitting the Stafford. Incredible. Real Dad met Jack Villeneuve. And he says, hi, Harry. Over and out. My. There's so much to absorb in that moment of the race. It's a lot in that. I mean, firstly, the fact that you both clearly think Hamilton hit the Staping, I hope, maybe you just misspoke. Do the community think that, have bent at, are we on the same page that everyone else thinks it's the other way around? I don't think I've really seen any reaction to be honest, but I would be surprised.

I also don't care because you're wrong if that's what you think. Also, Shatfield, I've actually said, hello, Harry. I will crease. I will literally die. I'll pay a lot of money. I would. I would love it. Coming up next is our favourite sign-off from all people. And one of the best names we've ever had is Darth Fartnoyce. Hey guys, Darth Fart Nose here.

A moment of the race was all the radio messages between Norris and the team. Also, I just think Norris was so stupid. I'm sorry, but you use up all your tires and the last stint just to make a point and pull away by six seconds rather than let your teammate through and then try to fight him. You obviously had a tire advantage, but whatever. Also, Restappen, he's kind of under pressure now and it shows. All right guys,

love the show. Darfurno is out. It simultaneously never gets better or worse. No, like it's horrible. But I love it and don't ever not want to hear it. It's an interesting one on the Norris and Piastri point because I feel like, and we don't know how much Lando Norris was trying to get by

in those last two laps, but obviously he couldn't keep within the DRS of Piastri. I don't know whether he was attempting to or not, but I feel like the first couple of stints and those last couple of laps might have proven that Norris couldn't get by Piastri. It did feel very much like if you were the driver in front, you were staying in front.

Yeah. And maybe that's why the decision to pick Norris first, giving him the undercut, seems even more stupid if that is what actually happened, right? If they knew that, bizarre. All right. So many more to get through. Norn from Texas.

Oh, hello, my late breaking friends from across Lay Big Wet. It is I, Norm from Texas. And I am here to give my moment of the race. And my moment of the race was the absolutely spicy radio drama we got between our race engineer dads and the perpetually petulant children racing around the track. Ah, Hungary. You shall be ever, forever be known as Winch Fest 24. Anyway, keep breaking late.

I like that. Yeah, that's great. I love also, Angiangia Dance, I think is great. They are like grumpy parents just trying to get their kigs to do the right thing. 100%. Up next, we've got Lireel. Hello, hello, it's Liriel from Australia. Medium time listener, first time submitter.

That's a lie, second time submitter. My member of the race should probably be when the Australian won. Big ups, Oscar Piastri, although that was a weird, weird one. However, my actual moment of the race was GP. absolutely cracking it on the radio and calling Max Childish. Incredible scenes. I mean, totally fair. Yeah, well done to Australia. First time, syncs what? Mark Weber. What, Daniel Ricardo. Oh, yeah, I forgot he.

Oh, you're going to get hate for that, boy. I really am. Sorry, guys. I also pick up his wings so often as well. That's the ADHD moment, folks. You hate that. Otherwise, you're a hater and you're a divergent. That's how I'm getting out of that one. Okay, moving on swiftly. Thank you for. submission they're out you're great um on the button is up next hello lake breakers o tb here from new zealand uh i love this podcast uh my moment of the race aside from um the craziness with the mcclaren strategy again uh was mad max so uh he hasn't really left has he cheers

that's true we saw a research it's of an old character to go didn't we that was the grumpiest he's been since what 21 at least There was a lot. I know that you focused on and our last submitter focused on the sort of last childish message. But there were quite a few before that that were tasty. Yeah, you know, can't get the car to turn in.

It's not breaking how I want it to. Why have you done this to my strategy? F this, F that. Beep, beep, beep. It was, you know, every two or three laps. There was another radio message. And I know obviously the race director chooses what to broadcast. So all the other drivers for all we go might have been,

engine along and we only heard Max. But equally, he was still saying it and there was a lot of it. What was the one about the tie warm up? You didn't say tire warm up, but let me. Oh, GP said, well, that's a way to give them an introduction. Yeah. And then he just went, well, you put me on here. Just making up.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. And then obviously, I love that with Hamilton or whatever, he came out, GP said, come on now. It says whatever, man. Just at that point, he's got absolutely sick of talking to each other. like an old married couple, as they say.

Up next is Emma Scott. Hi, everyone. Emma from Scotland here. My moment of the race today, apart from Piaastri winning, obviously, was Max Rappen being an absolute baby on the radio because he actually had to do some racing. It's your job, mate. Also shout out to Sam for the Twitch stream today. It was my first time joining, and I loved it.

It was great. Keep out with good work, guys. Thank you. Bye. We love to hear from our Scottish listeners as well. Don't often get too many submissions from Scotland. but yeah, stream was great and thanks for joining. We always love the support.

Coming up next, oh, hello. It's just a Hall of Fame we've got here, Ben. Is it a Hall of Fame? Oh, I can hear the beep beeps now because the battery never got changed. Come on.

Harry's microwave here. Coming back with another submission, moment of the race was obviously Crofti going all in on max with sleeping habits or lack of them. Sorry about Mr. Harry's microwave in the background. Thanks for the podcast.

Bye. The beeping is hilarious. It's just someone saying beep. Thanks, Gung. I wasn't on the screen. I'm looking at Discord. Bang is absolutely messing himself. Are you okay, Ben?

What do you need me to do, love? It's just beef in the background. Every like one to two seconds, quietly say beep. That's good that. We've enjoyed that. Oh, that's got me. Yeah. Yeah, not often do I cut back to look at the screen and bang is not near the desk.

No. That's really funny. That was very funny. Good. We're over to Seb malicious now. So, let's hear what you've got to say. Hello. There's a lot of moments of the race.

There's Angry Max. There's the croissant winning. There's Lando doing his best impression of a deaf man. There's Lewis just sitting there and just minding his business. going about his old man things. There's Alonzo just winging as well and not being able to develop a car every in his career.

Just loads of things. Yeah, they're all my moments. Bye, love you. A lot of juice there. A lot of juice. A lot of secret little digs at a few people, I think. Yeah, that was not moment of the race, singular. But we appreciate the quickfire roundup.

Yeah, it's a good little summary. Maybe we should start doing Seb's 30-second summary. Seb summary. Seb's summary. Moving on to, Joy, who wasn't here for qualifying. She was in class, I believe, as I've been told. And obviously, she's our George Russell advocate.

He didn't have a good day. So let's see what she's got to say. Even as George Russell's number one fan on the Discord, I can't deny that Max and Lewis colliding at turn one was the moment of the race. Runner up to that is probably Lando not breaking the Hungarian trophy. Good job, Lando. Runner up to that is probably Sam showing a nipple on stream. It was unhinged.

Also, my cry for the Discord, George Lovers, absolutely worked. You lovely lot are amazing. Is this how Harry feels when he asks for five-star reviews and get some? I honestly feel the butterflies. If you love George, come talk to me in Discord. Yeah, she is starting to amass a small George Russell fan base and army

in the Discord. Sounds more like a cult. Sure, sure. If you'd like to join Russell Mamia, see what I did there. Oh, like that. Yeah, get yourself into Discord. Joy will, I don't know, do a five-star frog splash off of a ladder. We've felt like a strange wrestling path here.

Up next, it's Brackett Dom. It's up Blade Breakers, Brackett Dom. Moment of the race had to be Lando Norris not letting Piaastri pass when they first asked him to. Because I actually think that costs Lando the win. They come on the radio and say, Lando let him pass.

You say, okay, I'll let them pass. But then you better let me fight him for the rest of the race. I think they would have been okay with that and I think he could have. So, yeah, Lando, just follow team orders when you're asked to. I think you can make that position back and win. I don't disagree with Brackett Dom. I did kind of suggest at this. If he'd done it immediately,

he could have had 15 laps to be right in the back of him with the IRS. I would have legitimately taken the win, right? Ben, any thoughts on that? I would love to have seen it. As I mentioned, I'm doubtful whether he pulls it off just based on how the first two stints go. But equally, it's a guess. I don't know. I'd love to have seen it. We love a big of speculation. Our penultimate submiter, sorry, we've had so many, and we can't get to all of you, so thank you again. But it's fry up the sausages, Barry. Good day, everybody.

Fry up the sausages, Barry here. For me, the moment of the race, Hungarian, it's just got to be the spice. Spicy pumpernickel, spicy sausages, spicy radio, some spicy overtakes. Oh, spice was on. They're cooking F1. is cooking, baby. Thanks for the podcast. See you later. See you like a

leg of Barry. Cheers, see you in the kitchen. He's right though. I feel like F1's in a good place right now. We were, you know, there's a lot of moans last season. I get it. I get why. If it happens in F1, you get these dominant seasons. But I feel like we're back, baby. Yeah, I race to race, even if a championship battle doesn't materialize both drivers and constructors. Race to race, it's really exciting. And that matters. The fact that we haven't got a clue in our pole one, two, three,

and are so regularly completely wrong now is actually great. It's a good thing to be wrong about if it means exciting racing. George Russell Poll, I was definitely right on that, won't I? Yeah, you smashed it, mate. I really wish you were right, because again, my fantasy would have been great. Finally, someone who attended our lovely live show and was delightful in person, as they are on submission. It's Steph can't drive.

I was going to submit something about Formula E and London yesterday, just to wine Sam up, but I'm so grumpy from that tainted Oscar win that I just don't have the answer to do that anymore. So instead, my highlight of the race is going to be DP sassing Max out over the radio. The only person that can do it, and he does it

so well. I've got Oscar won, but it feels so weird. Okay. Yeah, a lot of sass for old Maxie to stat there. indeed. Thank you ever so much to everyone who's submitted, as Sam has already mentioned, we can only play some based on time constraints, but keep submitting if we didn't play yours because there's every chance you'll get on the next time we do this, which of course will be midweek because we're back in preview mode for the Belgian Grand Prix, where we will be joined

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