The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2024 Mexican GP Review

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Well that race had it ALL! The LB trio are on hand to review the Mexican GP chaos from Verstappen's huge penalties after Norris battle, Sainz's dominant win bringing Ferrari firmly into the Constructors' Championship fight, and the shockingly miserable day for hometown hero Perez... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League BUY our Merch EMAIL us at [e-mail]   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking, today reviewing the Mexican Grand Prix. One by the Ferrari of Carlos Sines from pole position with Lando Norris in second place and the other Ferrari of Charlotte-Claire in third. That was something on it, Sam? Hot and spicy. Yeah, that was really something.

We had a great time with that. It had a bit of everything. We got the safe. Bert got another rung out. Nice to see him stretch his legs. Good to see that. Did he thought he hurt? Yeah.

All right, okay, fine. Bert, as in Bert and Ernie? Yes. That's his game now. The medical was saved car driver's these days. Yes, Bert. And the other ones, come going on. Good.

You know me in games. It's terrible. Yeah, we got the old ding-don, a little ding-don between our championship rivals, you know. France, not France, Ferrari, I've had a great old time. Oliver hates everything. Perez, can't wait to get onto that topic. That's going to be fun. Sorry to all parents' fans, if you're listening.

Yeah, it gave us a bit of everything. It was a really, really good, good weekend of Formula One, and thank you. Thank you to the F1 guards, because we've got a lot to chat about. I think Yuki Sanoda entering term one backwards, set the tone. The slow-mo replay about going through walking him going through backwards it's so good

really really lay out there that's where this race is going that's the level so thank you yuki that was actually just the conclusion of his crash from the day before he just didn't stop still happening

yeah yeah you're right sam we have a lot to talk about on today's episode we've got a moment of the race coming up we've got big brain strout all the regulars that you'll get on a review episode but we are going to start with

the 22nd time panel that was given to Max Verstappen. In truth, it was two penalties, two 10-second penalties for incidents with Lando Norris. We'll take them in turn, I think, because they were separate incidents and could be viewed separately. One of them may be correctly penalized,

maybe the other one wasn't. We'll find out our views very shortly. Sam, start us off. The first incident into turn four, very similar to what we saw at Cota, side-by-side Norris on the outside, being force-wide, Bostappan given a 10-second penalty

in the first instance for that one. Good decision, bad decision, what are you thinking? Well, in theory, this one actually even better for Max because he stayed on the track at Turn 4, whereas Cota last week and the incident that we're going to discuss later on, both of those instances, Max goes off track with the car that's attacking him

because it happens to be Lando on all three occasions. Now, if I was writing the rules, this 10 second time penalty applied, for me, 100% makes sense and it's fair and it's the right call. but I genuinely believe that Max, who I thought handled it over the radio, brilliantly with the iconic lying of, quite impressive. Two over ten seconds, what a response. Like a challenge to him now.

Is it all right? Sure. Yeah. Go on, man. Well, another one. He's going to try and become the first driver to get a drive-through in about 15 years. That'll be next race. Do they exist anymore?

Anyway, I respect that the security to finally put their foot down. What the difference is that's made them put their foot down on this? I don't know. I don't understand why the tables have turned. I don't understand what has suddenly occurred that means that this move is so different to any of the other moves that have taken place at Cota or anywhere else throughout the season

where we've seen wheel to wheel racing. But yes, this was worth a 10 second penalty. He forced a driver off track. He left no room all the time you need with the space. It was aggressive. It was over the line. It was not correct. And as much as Max has been bending the rules

to fit his favour in how Formula One races, for me, that was too far. left in no room and we got no racing. So yes, correct. I'm happy that the penalty was applied, but I actually think the Red Bull and Max for Stapleton can have every right to be a little bit frustrated that coming out of this, they're going to go, wait a minute, last week, we didn't get a penalty. Now we have got a penalty. Multiple instances before, there's been no penalties. Now it's a penalty. But a couple of years ago, they were taking it. It's so inconsistent again. I'm sorry, Stuart. I know you finally made the right choice, but you should be making it all along.

I think they have a right to be a little bit annoyed, but the penalty was just and I think fair. Harry, do you think it was a just penalty or does Vastappan and the team have something to be annoyed about here? Yeah, they have nothing to be annoyed about here. Fair penalty all round. The first move, which Martin Brundall called Rude and Cheeky, which I thought was... I'd love our next album.

Good name for an album. The first move, I deserved a penalty. My issue here is that I think there's a person. penalty. I think the second move was absolutely outrageous. Should have been more than the first penalty. It was just the same penalty again. Should have been more because the crime was worse.

The, the, as Brundle said, I was borderline. I still think it went beyond the line with move one. Moved two was just, that was just stupid. That should have been. Yeah, that should have been way more of a penalty than move one was. The fact that they got equal weighting is there's a problem there for me. But the fact that they both got addressed and penalized was. correct and a hefty punishment at the end.

20 second penalties. When was last time he had? Has anyone ever had that? I don't know. It looked weird, didn't it? In the pits. Just sat there. Nothingness. Yeah, for 20 seconds. That's a long time enough one. I love that they played the whole thing.

They roared dogged it the whole way through. No cuts. Just 20 seconds of no one moving. Yeah, that's very true. I was really worried about for Red Bull's sake. You know the guy with the fan at the front? I was like, if your hand just, slips and hits the car, like even grace. Another penalty.

Yeah, right? Finds me another one. Yeah, it was, it would, these were both, both deserved. I probably would have gone a less of a penalty for move one. I still didn't agree with that. I agree that it was, it was a penalty, but for what move two was, I don't agree that they should, they were both 10 seconds worth. They should have at least maybe been 10 and then a 15 or 10 and 5.

I don't know, but the, the, what that message sends is not a good. one because move one was hard and over the edge racing, deserved the punishment. Move two was just, they're silly buggers. That was not that wasn't even a move. It wasn't even a move. So that's where

my first issue I have this. But the penalties as a whole, yes, I agree. Do you think the fact that he got the second penalty actually influenced the first one? Because let's just say only that that first incident happens. I think there's a chance they only give him a five second penalty

for that. And I don't know if they were subconsciously, like, influenced by something a bit more, I don't want to say deliberate, but it was far more over the edge, like the second one. I don't know if they maybe just, the stewards might just snapped and gone 10 seconds. That's it. Back to Winnipeg. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe.

But again, is that right? I don't know. I don't know. Quite possibly. Because it's quite extreme versus what we've seen before. So you may well be right. but they still need to judge it by incident. I'd have been okay if they said five seconds for the first one.

The second one was it easily a 10 second. I could have gone worse, quite frankly. But yeah, that's maybe maybe right. That's probably they just got influenced by the heat of the moment, which as a stewarding organization, that's not good. No. I'm of your opinion, Sam, that this was simultaneously, it should have been a penalty and shouldn't have been a penalty,

at least the first incident I'm talking about here, because in theory, if the Cota, there was nothing wrong with the Cota one, there was nothing wrong with this one either. So I think Red Bull and Vostappen can rightly say, why was that a penalty and the other one wasn't, which the stewards could just turn around and say, oh, do you want a penalty for both of them then?

Oh, man, we might step back, actually. But there is a legitimate question from Red Bull and Vestappen's perspective of, you know, what separates those two moves? I again why I think it's a penalty is my understanding of what not even an understanding of my opinion of what racing should be is that if you are side by side into a corner you should be giving at least one car's width on the outside of a corner because I don't want to see these sort of move shut down I don't want to see the inside of a corner leading at the apex automatically means you can do whatever you want because that will lead to worse racing in the long run and I'm just sick of the first first at the apex argument. This is an argument that off air we collectively laughed at due to some incidents in the past, not related to F1,

Kyle Larson's specific incident where, was it indie? He just arrives at the scene. Sideways. But he's first at the apex, so he can do whatever he wants, right? The bad doesn't have a brake pedal. Yeah, so I'm sick of that rule.

But, yeah, I would penalise that first incident, but I can equally understand why Red Bull would turn around and go, that's the same as what happened last week. The second incident, good Lord Almighty, Max, will you stop it? Terry? I'm very much with Harry here. That first one, for me, it's like five seconds if you're out of control and you don't leave the car space.

Like you've locked up and the cars had to run wide to avoid you. 10 seconds if it was clearly intentional. But that was a war crime. What you've done there is you have broken the code of ethics and a man was put in danger and Max Verstappan who what he was doing and Lando is still having to, he's basically hit the Atlantic Ocean at that point he's driven so far wide on the corner.

I can't believe he's only got the same penalty. Teng is that's it? That's a drive-through. That was ridiculous. It's Sena-pros level of trying to kill each other at this point. That's too much. I think it's a separate 10-second stop go. Then put this on your pit stop.

You've got to come in. You've been a very naughty boy. Your Schumacher black flag at Silverson 94, naughty boy. Come on. Sorry. Can I just request that you be a little bit less British bias? We are the British media and we do make Max drive like that. Very true.

I would have got a bit more harsh on that second incident because, you know, I don't really condone murder on a racetrack. Yeah, man, fair. Fair, good call. He was never making that corner in a million years. The attention was given there, was it? I don't want to respect that move specifically, but I do somewhat respect the approach of Max Verstappen of just,

he has increasingly pushed the boundaries of what's okay, and I think he's finally found what's not okay. Like, Cota, I think he was really trying it out, and here it's like, okay, I found the line, maybe I shouldn't go that far again in the future. But in terms of the championship, we've made this point over the last week. I've been banging the drum on this.

There's no one happier about this Vastappan and Norris Championship fight than Ferrari right now because Charle-Claire, for the second week in a row, all right, I'll take the position, no problem at all. And he's able to just skip off into second. Of course, he doesn't keep it, but we don't know that at the time. And Vestappen obviously gets the penalty, so it doesn't benefit him.

But if he doesn't get a penalty or gets a less severe penalty, it's still a clever move by him, because Ferrari have got a position on Norris. It's interesting. Yeah, it's funny how we've had a double dose of Ferrari managing to get through on the competition and double podium again. I mean, Norris did well.

We'll get onto it in a little bit, but it could have been another one too for Feza. Also, for Vazappen, their argument of being at the apex first, that ruling, for that second incident, you can't count it because he didn't make the apex of that corner. Was it an apex? It was a straight line. He was nowhere near it.

So you can't, if you can't make the apex, then that shouldn't be allowed as a general rule. Is it ruining wheel racing? Like generally, this will change. There's no way this carries on because it's absolutely farcical.

I think it only ruins it if like, yeah, like you say, they don't do anything about it and it seems like they are going to. I hope so. Give it six weeks and I forgot their own rules

and they'll be back to nothing again. Probably. 10 points gained in the driver's championship from Lando Norris's perspective on Max Vest's perspective on Max Stappen, so I believe that gap now sits at 47 points. Is that enough, Sam, at this point? No, Max is like a blinder.

He's only lost 10 points after all that. He had to serve 20 seconds. He was sat there for what felt like a decade in the pit lane. Lando's eating his heart out trying to get every single fastest lap possible to catch Shell LeCler, gets past him, is trying to catch Carlos Sines. And Max has still only lost 10 points. This is the first time that Max Verstappen has properly dropped points to Lando Norris, since, what, hungry?

and is that it? Ten. We've got, what, four Grand Prix to go. Max and Staff is going to need to lose probably a good 15 points of race for it to even be close for the title to come down to anything. So, no, he's playing a blinder. He can walk away happy again. After losing, 20 second penalty, only 10 points lost.

He's lost a point for every two seconds of penalty he's taken. I'm sure he's quite happy with that secretly. And in the day, end of the season, he still walks away driver's champion. Max can have that afternoon, that race again for the rest of the season, and he still wins. So it's not going to be enough. He doesn't care. If that is, today in Hungary, probably his two worst races of the season. But that one was intentional.

That's the thing. He knew what he was doing. I would argue it was even the worst race because he did it on purpose. To be fair, his pace was actually, I don't think it was a rebel in general, but his pace is pretty poor. But I just mean he can, those are his two races

of the season. He can have that on repeat for the rest of the season. And even Austria throw that in there. He still scored points. Good points there,

didn't he? You can have that and repeat for the remainder of the season still come out on top. So yeah, he's game. Norris needs more luck

on his side than a 10 point swing. He needs a win and a Vastap and DNF to the list to even be on. So unless that's a fast forward a week from now where I sat here. But,

yeah. he really needs that to happen ideally for to get the championship so I think yeah like save this happens if we're not

on a day like today he's done enough again I it's not like I want bloodshed between these two drivers but I do after the race right Lando Norris

in the moment is quite heated about what's happened and rightly so man nearly died of course but after the race he's interviewed of course

because he was on the podium and he basically kicks off with the line about how much he respects racing Max. I'm like, come on, man, give me something. Like, you should be annoyed. Oh, I love you so much, Max. Don't not be my friend. Of course, he can still respect Max and who he is and what he does. Like, that's fine, but we're still on the day of a race where he's taking him off twice

in the space of like four corners. Be annoyed. But he wasn't. I want Schumacher storming down the pit lane with David. Yes, come on. That's what I want. I want ancient ears holding them back. Let's have it.

Come on. Let's have it. Let's have it. Delia Smith's getting in there. Come on. Let's be having you. Right. We'll take our first break on this review episode.

On the other side, we're talking about Ferrari and Carlos Sines's win. A highly impressive poll position from Carlos Sines yesterday that myself and Sam discussed. A highly impressive win in the race today as well. Of course, lost the lead at the start to Max Verstappen, but got it back very quickly. after the safety car made its way to the pit lane and didn't lose the leave from there. He was comfortably out in front. Even when Lando Norris got ahead of Charlerclair,

it didn't look like his win was going to be under threat. He took his fourth career wins. Sam, that was pretty impressive. And a reminder, he's not going to be there next year. Yeah, I say it on the qualifying reviewing. I'll say it again. You know, Red Bull didn't want him. Ferrari have gotten rid of him.

And Williams had picked up an absolute goldmine of a driver. Sykes was hanging shoulders the best driver this whole weekend he was the best driver for the entirety of the weekend better than LeCler in every department outqualified him comfortably out-raced him comfortably the margin that he built up back to the Clare

when Norris eventually got past him meant that he was comfortable doesn't matter what fastest slaps Norris was putting in he has to be doing under one minutes to realistically get close to him that's never going to happen is it he did everything he needed to do he was commanding the strategy you heard him being

like give me one more lap for tire length. He knew what was going on at every single point. Yes, he lost the league at the start, but the Mexican start is such a kind of throw it up in the air and hope you get through cleanly, as we saw with Gasly Albon and Senoda having that collision, he could have come out of there much worse than being second place. So the fact he snatched back the lead,

pretty much within a lap once the safety card pulled back in, brilliantly done. I really can't fault him. Other for the fact he did lose the lead off the start, barely, which is a minor fault. He was absolutely phenomenal. Sala science is such an asset. He is the smooth operator.

And I do, I mean, Hamilton, I think actually drove quite well this race. You know, he best in Gould Russell. And it's probably one of his

better performances as of late. But when you've got the guy winning when Charlotte Clair doesn't, is you do, I bet some of the team are questioning. Why did we get rid of him? Why is he going? And you said,

you heard it in this post race interview. I wanted one more before I left Ferrari. Because he knows. He knows it's going to be an uphill battle when he goes to Williams. And they know they're not there yet. It's a long-term project. So I'm glad he's got at least one more.

But the last two Grand Prix, he's been phenomenal. He's shown what he's made of. So James Vowler has played a blinder picking up Carlos Sines. It's a fantastic signing. How are your thoughts on Sciences' performance? Filthy, mainly for his dive bomb. I wasn't even, I won't cut it a dive bomb because it was just sick, filth. You know what, though?

He left space on the outside as well. Shockingly, makes a good move. In my book, that's a good move. Absolutely nailed him, drilled him. Oh, okay. well, none of that. But it was an excellent move by signs. And yeah, like you said, he was, he's been the class act this weekend.

Just some, again, I don't want to underrate Carlos signs at all because he, I think is criminally underrated. But sometimes he just has a day of days, a weekend of weekends. That was this weekend. He just, there was no one else that was better than him. He lost the lead off the start. Yeah, but it's Mexico. And that often happened.

and to be honest, it went probably as well as he could have hoped it did, he only lost one place. He's the first driver to have won off pole in Mexico for the first and eight years, I think I saw,

just before we started recording, which is... Yeah, Max and Stapp and managed a lead again, but yeah, I think it's the first Ferrari victory at Mexico. Ben, you might be right on this since 1990, 34 years. Big Alain, yeah,

sit it on the grid. Yeah, it's a long time, isn't it? Big out of little that line. But, yeah, it was... I think it went as well, the start went as well as it could have done to be honest considering it's Mexico and yeah once he absolutely

he did him into turn one did it happen into turn one he did not look back and I know he stressed out a bit about the pace of Lecler but it's been honestly he always seemed like he had it in hand didn't look like it got a bit closer and then signs would put away again so very convincing from signs

I'm with you Sam on there it really depends what sort of hamilton we get next year and this is for a complete different topic but I bet there are a couple of people in the team that I think in Hmm. That guy was spectacular. Yeah.

Maybe this wasn't the right cool. But this has always been the cruel, cruel reality of the Hamilton to Ferrari move is that they weren't getting rid of Carlos Sines because he's been rubbish. They just had Hamilton on the table. And unfortunately, Sons was one that's had the four. And it's not because Sines has been crap. Sons has been excellent. So, yeah, it's the harsh reality.

But, yeah, an excellent win from him today. Yeah. to remember is at the beginning of the season, how many drivers are there on the grid that Ferrari would have taken to give up Carlos Sines? I would imagine the list is Lewis Hamilton, Max Verstappen, and Mando Norris. Even that last one, it was, at that point, at that point was questionable. Yeah, and I don't think they would have taken anyone else. That includes Russell, Alonzo. I think they would have stuck with signs. Great job from him today.

And if you look back at his, I believe this is his fourth win, if you look back at his three previous wins, he won the British Grand Prix a couple of years ago, but I think on that day, Charles LeClau was the quicker Ferrari, and it just so happened that signs had the better strategy. Singapore, a very impressive win,

but he was holding off drivers right at the end of that Grand Prix. And of course, Australia earlier this year, Vastappen retired very early on. This was probably his best win of the lot, Because what were the mitigating circumstances here? He got pole position. He had two laps yesterday that were good enough for pole. He got that excellent move done on Max Verstappen into term one.

And he never looked back. Charles LeClair, there were a few times where he got within like five seconds. Didn't really look like he was under that much pressure. And even Lando Norris late on, he wasn't going to become a factor. This was brilliantly managed. It did require some impressive tire management because not all drivers nailed. that out there today, some of which we'll get onto, I'm sure. But Carlos Sines out front did an excellent job. And look, if you look at the top three in the Constructed Championship, we keep going back to

that. At the moment, and I'm talking the last couple of races here, there's only one of the three lineups that can be really happy about what they're doing. And it's the only one of the three that at present is not going to be the same next year. Signs in McClure today, even with LeCleur, dropping that position to Lando Norris, they're picking up 40 points. Their first and third in this race, whereas you've got McLaren finishing second and the other driver fighting to get back into the points. And of course, Vastappan having a difficult day. And Perez being, again, a non-factor when it comes to points.

So 29 points separating Ferrari and McLaren in the Constructed Championship with a few races to go. Again, we've still got two sprints. They've got to feel like they've got something of a chance because not only have they got a lineup that's working well, they've got a car that's working well at the moment. Charles of Claire obviously looked like for a long time in this race that he was going to complete that one two finish that they haven't had back to back one two finishes in a very long time over 15 years Sam didn't quite end up going that way still a double podium should charlerler be disappointed yeah I think he'll be disappointed with this third place is still strong he's still moved up fourth to third but when you see your teammate and again no disrespect to Carlos Sikes but Charlotte Claire is usually the lead driver of the pair so if Carlos Sines is able to extract that pace, manage those tyres that well, deliver what he did in qualifying,

which is obviously Shal's strong point as well. It was disappointing to see Shal's so far behind. I'm sure Sholl also like a change of underwear for the many pools that he probably produced. I think he's still pooing. Honestly. Crikey. And fair enough to.

You can still hear all of Mexico gasping at how close he was to the wall. But yeah, it was a valiant battle, I think, on a set of ties that he had made. be run into the ground a little bit. It just wasn't his weekend. He wasn't on his usual A game. But if he's not on his usual A game and he's still coming home in third place,

he's still beating Max Verstappen, he's still completely outdoes pedestrian. Perez is nowhere to be seen. Both the Mercedes is company behind. There's only two drivers in front of him. And one of them is his teammate. It's really not a bad day. This is the kind of time.

We know when we talk about how champions have kind of damage mitigation, damage limitation. This is what Charlotte Clair did today. Third place, like a bad day for Charlotte Clare and a Ferrari that throughout the season has been a little bit topsy-turvy. I think it's a very solid result.

He does what he needs to for the team. I think we all know that the drivers was never really in a proper conversation. And so that's obviously well and truly gone. But for the constructors, this is good enough to keep the motoring. Another one like this in a week's time, they're right there. They're only a few points behind at that point. So he will be disappointed. But overall, this is not a bad day for the Ferrari team.

I think Ferrari themselves will go away and feel quite happy with how that's happened. what do you thoughts on LeCler's race Harry yeah I think he'll be disappointed but he'd been said

in his post race interview he's just not been there this weekend so I think coming away with a P3 which was almost a P2 I don't think he can be too massive disappointed

he knows that the driver's championship is not a thing but for constructors wise this was a big big day for them they'll obviously know I've taken Red Bull

and they keep having days like that then the win could be on for them. So Lecler personally, I think it would be disappointed, but from a team point of view, I don't think he can be. I think he'd,

he made the most of his race. It was clear that he was struggling more with his tires. And the signs was, as you say, that save was, I know he had to make the save, but the save was ridiculous. I don't think I've seen one like that for a long time.

Honestly, as soon as it started to go, I was like, well, that's in the wall. That's going in the wall. I'm not entirely sure how he saved that. So fair play, kept out of the barriers. Obviously lost P2 to Norris, but yeah,

and that was due to the gap that he'd, you know, built up over, over the Mercedes who were having their own little ding-dong battle. That's the second time ding-dongs come up. Ban on that phrase for the rest of the podcast, please. Don't just limit it to the rest of this podcast. Life.

Yeah, thank you. I'm a ding-dong man and it's staying around. Shut up. No, please. On mute you. But yeah, I think he'll be disappointed, but he shouldn't be too much, to be honest. I feel like he wasn't at one with the car, like from the off this weekend. Even with qualifying on yesterday, he put together an all right performance, obviously,

but there were multiple times on key laps where that car did not look very secure. So I think Carlos Sines very simply put was the quicker driver, whether he got the setup right, whether he was just better this weekend, I don't know. but from the off, Carlos signs just seem like the better of the two Ferraris, in which case is third place the worst result in the world. Not exactly. But if you look at the few different ways this race could have gone for Charles LeClaer, he will be a bit disappointed that I don't know how concerned he is by the Norris

battle for second in the driver's championship, but that could have gone very differently. Like if Norris and Vastappan, rather than nearly take each other out, actually do take each other out, and Charle of, you know, his car was in theory quick enough in Ferrari won the race, suddenly that could swing the championship quite a lot. And ultimately it didn't go that way for him. So it was an okay performance from Charles,

LeClaire. He'll be, I think whenever your teammate pulls off a fairly comfortable win, you're going to be disappointed that you're not second. But I just think that that second stint, tire management towards the end of the race, he didn't do as good a job as signs of him. Shall we do driver of the day? The verdict is in. You're the driver of the day.

You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. Sam, who was good at driving? I like that you come to me first, Ben, because I do get the easy option. Carlos Sanks was the driver of the day. As I was already stated, pretty much a flawless weekend.

People might say, well, they didn't get the, I used to ever get the fastest slap. The amount of people that stopped right at the end there and put on softs. it was never reasonable to expect him to get the fastest lap. He did everything right and even the start, which was tricky where he lost it. He reclaimed it back with Sachsew. So Carlos Sainz, for me, was a clear winner for driver of the day. For me, Carlos Sines, great performance and very much worthy of the second best driver of the day.

Oh, oh, no. Kevin Magnuson, what an effort. He demolished his teammate, who had, I don't think Holkenberg did a poor job, by the way. He's in the points as well. Kevin Magnuson from the off this weekend has been on it. Qualifying, great. And he beat Oscar Piastri. And I know Piastri is making his way back through the field,

but every other midfield driver has been beaten by Oscar Piastri today. Not Kevin Magnuson. I think that was this two-race stretch has been Magnuson's best of the season by far. My guy, do it in the first two races of a year. You've left imparting late. You've already been replaced. Why have we done it now? Max replacing himself.

He's making a late push for the Red Bull seat, I reckon. Oh, see. You know what? I'd pay a lot of money to see that. Max for stuffing and Kevin Magnuson at the same team. Good Lord. Would both of them survive the year? I don't have a race, mate.

That's it, one race you're done. But in all seriousness, I was seriously impressed. Carlos Seins was great and would be easily driver of the day if it weren't for Magnuson for me. But yeah, got to give him a K-Mag. Harry. You've said all my points, Ben. Kevin Goddamn box office, Magnuson.

It's like a different driver versus the rest of the year. And like you say, Austin was actually really good, but they fluffed up his strategy. Yeah, this was highly impressive. And I know Vesappen had four seconds, four, sorry, 20 seconds worth of penalties to contend with. But he was only four seconds off him at the end of the race. That cat was getting smaller.

That cat was coming down. It was chomper after him. So very impressive. Signs absolutely definitely a worth. worthy winner as well because of all the above reasons but yeah i was going to go for k-mag-tie let's move on to worst driver of the day this could be very short best ben-bin-bin-bin worst driver of the day

you stuck at driving sam you've done a wonderful job of digging your grave here sir because i seem to recall you less than two minutes ago saying that you love going first in these segments you also have a driver of the day sam no no i still I'm proudly upon that step. And most people might think, well, surely Max Verstappen. Well, I actually disagree because Max Verstappen, although picking up 20 seconds of penalties,

he did it for the right reasons and with intent. As much as that's very naughty, he knew what he was doing. He also scored points. He did also score points. Unlike asserting other Red Bull driver, Sergio Perez, and myself and Harry have done pretty much the same tweet, so I'm going to go out and read the exact same thing here because I think it summarizes things so well.

The weekend itself is sublime. Out in Q1. Brilliant. He misses his start box. Brilliant. He then crashes into another R.B. driver. Brilliant. He then runs Lance Stroth, Lance Strull off the road.

Fantastic. He moans non-stop about everything. And he's going so slow that he can watch the race on the big screen. He then attempts the fastest lap at the end. And he's one second away from what Charles LeCler has managed to do. Finish his P-17. Silencing. the haters.

Sercchio Perez. That was abysmal. Wow. A lot of different contenders raised by Sam, but he does eventually do from the Red. Harry, who have you got?

Yeah. Sergio, mate. You've had better days. Do you know what? The way this race started, I mean, the firstly, the parking in your pit box

in Brazil and not Mexico, which was a good start. And obviously, they said it was a false. start and he was like, no, it wasn't. They were like, it was a great start. Come on.

He still argued the point about the pit box, though. Yeah, he was like, no, it wasn't. Nah. He's so delusion. Yeah, that's, got that to be checked. Yeah, we've all checked him. You weren't in the pit box. You're going to wrecko yourself, mate.

That aside, he was a good, it was a good start, mainly because he started about five meters in front of everyone else. He's right ahead of those five miles. He's not going to get alongside Max on the front row. He started at turn one. But the way the race was shaping up for it. I mean, we were sort of chop. up in through the field.

I was like, this is kind of, kind of, Sergio Perez racing point vibes. I was like, oh, okay. I didn't think he was going to win the race.

I did, obviously. But I was going to that. I was thinking, this is shaping up. And then, and then he met Liam Lawson and the hatred began.

And then from then on, everything went to pure poo. Terrible. Terrible day. Terrible weekend. But terrible day. And the, to top it off with the swing and a miss of a going for the fastest.

I mean, to be honest, Red Bull, why do you bother? His car's got a hole in it. Yeah. Like, they did it after Leclair pit as well. Well, you're not going to beat that unless the Claire falls off again. It's never going to happen. It's just embarrassing. You just made him be last for no reason.

Sorry, Sergio. One's good. Also, shout out. I wasn't, there was differing opinions on commentary, but Yuki, mate, are you going to win at the first corner? Why are you diving down the outside? It's quite clear. No space.

We'll get into that as well after the break, by the way. I want to talk about that. Yeah. My worst driver of the day was Sergio Perez. Oh, okay. It's a shock. I get to that conclusion. There's three.

Our next segment is on Sergio Perez, so I'm probably going to leave it there because there's going to be more chat about him. But needless to say, he was the worst driver of the day. We'll take our second break on the other side. Sergio Perez. Okay.

Welcome back, everyone, as alluded to before the break. We are going to get into some of the key elements of Sergio Perez's Grand Prix. Sam, let's start at the start because that didn't go very well. We've already touched on this, obviously. Five second time penalty for not being in the ball. It was a great start, great launch, should I say, from Sergio Perez, but ultimately costs him a five second penalty. Your thoughts on that.

Great start because he's starting in front of the five drivers. was meant to overtake it, so he just starts in front of them. Yeah, I'm baffled by this. You think, you know, you're at your home Grand Prix. And after qualifying, by the way, the worst Red Bull qualifying performance before this one was Daniel Riccardo and P7. So go back another 10 places and now, Sergio Perez, how was that site all shocking.

It's the bizarre defect, I don't know, he comes out and says, you know, oh, I've all places for it to happen. It's happened here. And then you think, right, I need to make amends for this. So you park in the next boxing, front of you, basically, you've got half the car hanging over the front end. And he does get a good start.

He does get a good start. But you argue that, okay, you've got a good start because he's on a completely different part of the racetrack to everyone else and is able to maybe get a better launch. It's a debate that you can have. Five seconds for that. Is that the norm? That feels very low. The norm is either a five or a ten second.

Great. Either a five or ten. Cool. What's the difference? Why do we get one of the other? they go five for misplaced parking and 10 for an actual jump. But I made that up.

I'm not sure. It feels like a lot. Alonzo had one of his saldi dast you, didn't he? He was out of his grip spot and they gave him five. But that's the last one I can think of. Fine.

Five still feel small, but I can understand it. And then, yeah, he ends up having the world's biggest beef with Liam Lawson, which I love, by the way, because Liam Lawson, right, he's got the dog in him.

You know, he's from down under, he's got that right, He is perfect for Red Bull family mentality, sticking middle fingers out of cars, driving right up against people, not afraid to put his car on the line when it mattered. And whether you think the defense or attack of that move where they had contact was on one drive or the other, Lawson wasn't taking any ball from Sergio Paris. No Red Bull, that's for sure. The only thing he might be taking is that guy's seat coming at the season.

The defense was terrible. The drive was terrible. He didn't put up a good move across the entire race. then he moaned constantly about how he had damage, which arguably he shouldn't have put himself in, you know, the danger zone for that. It was just a, I've gone into it on the worst driver performance, so I won't bring up all the same points again,

but this was retirement worthy. Genuinely, I wouldn't be shocked if they've made the decision after this Grand Prix, and that is game over for Sergio Perez's career at the end of 2024. Harry, your thoughts on the start? He certainly started his car. there's no denying

The engine got turned on Just a bit of it And again I referenced Alonzo did this in Saudi Although his was slightly different He was like To the Was he slightly to the right of it

He didn't go Yeah It was lined up probably It's a bit different But Sergio mate You were You were

I don't know who you argued this And I admire the I respect the hustle Almost So you just like In complete denial That you've got this wrong See the Panama

Now mate Yeah He was like I said He was in Brazil He was that far ahead And just a And again, this is just a sign I think of the pressure of this weekend,

the pressure of everything getting to him that that's that kind of mistake. I bet if you go back through Sergio Perez's career, he's never done that once. And this weekend, he does it. And that's just, I think, the sign of the times he's in. So, yeah, obviously that was good. The actual start itself, yeah, he wasn't wrong.

It was a great start. And he made up quite a few places. And that's why I said, the early part of that race, five second penalty aside. actually looked like he was shaping up pretty well until he met Liam Lawson who will now have like a

what you call it a thingy doll that will stick needles into into but yeah that was probably the highlight of his rate the highlight of his race was his start which speaks volumes the highlight of his race was something you got penalised for yeah that's what I mean that's how bad the race went

yeah it wasn't good no, no, it's great, mate. He said it was a great start. That's the worst thing. It was a good start. I'm convinced even if he started where he should have done,

he would have picked up at least a few of those positions. He had a good start and it was ruined by not being all the way into that pit box. The thing is, and you question the penalty, Sam, of whether it should have been five seconds or not, if you asked Sergio Perez before the first pit stop, would you rather have taken,

taken the five second penalty or a worse start, it would have made sense to take the five second time penalty because lap, I didn't noted down here, lap 18, he was seven and a half seconds in front of Oscar Piastri, who he started alongside, which is obviously more than five seconds. So I'm not, again, the launch was pretty good. So he might have picked up a few of those spots anyway,

but actually his start plus five seconds was probably still net better than him just staying where he would have done as sort of Oscar Piastri did. But yeah, it's just, like you said, Harry, he's probably never done this in however many races he's done. It's just awful timing more than anything, but it really set the tone for what was a difficult day. What were your thoughts on the Lawson interactions, Harry?

Yeah, Lawson. Lawson knows how to race, doesn't they? Which I think is probably quite clear now. And it was all fair. The whole thing, that whole, I mean, to be honest, if I was Sergio, I probably wouldn't have sent it out the inside of that. Why are you doing that? You're not going to bad thing after I. Why have you bothered?

Why are you doing that? So on that, on that point, but fair enough to Lawson for not just turning in on because a lot of drivers would have just turned in. So saw him coming, gave him a room, Perez decides to then squeeze him to the absolute outside of the track. Lawson doesn't let it go and fights backing takes the place. Perez can have, I know he calls him a need. idiot, but Paris can have no complaints about that.

It was hard but fair racing that. And like I said, Perish and have gone for in the first place. I'm not, I have no bones of that. And I'm not going to say it's anyone's fault. But if I was with a bit of circumspect, if I was Sergio, I would have left that one alone for that lap. Pride and pressure got the better of him. Yeah, just by expectation that he was going to jump out of the way.

And why would he? because he's coming after your seat, boy. I think he was embarrassed that it didn't go to plan, and then he reacted badly and, you know, you spiral from them. We've all in those situations

where you've done something a bit silly in front of people and you're like, oh, a bit embarrassed, and then you get a bit more than yourself and then you're at badly again, and you're like,

oh, I shouldn't just shut my mouth for the first time round. And then you try and take Lansdrol off the road. Right? Yeah. We all do it. Yeah. Happens the best of the...

Yeah. Happens all the time. You get embarrassed, and then you're like, I'll take you off the road. I think him being that riled up about Lawson is worse than the incident. The incident was clumsy and I, like you said, probably should have, he'd have got by him, that he just needed to back off.

He was making solid progress through the field. I think the fact that he was so riled by him in the first instance to call him an idiot, that's not great and shows that this guy might be getting under your skin. But to then, however many laps later, call him an idiot again because he's seen some dead. debris and he's watching the replay of Lawson in a separate incident and to comment on that. It's not a good look. You've, you need to, you're in a red bull. Like, you've got to have moved on by then, but he's still fixated on this incident and

happened laps and laps before. So I actually think like the way he looks coming out of this is almost worse than the conduct of his racing. It was, and I mentioned this before we started recording, when Lawson got by Perez later in the Grand Prix, which made sense because Lawson had fresh tires and Perez had like 20 lap old mediums. It made sense that

Lawson was quicker at that point. But it was the way that Perez who never have had a chance of getting by Lawson again was like shaping up to the inside of term one like, I might go for it here. You could tell he's agitated because the sensible thing

would have been just to get in the slipstream and carry on with your race. It's done and dusted at that point. I don't know. I haven't had enough time to formulate my full opinion on this because Perez has had a lot of questionable races. And I've always felt like there has been some good stuff there that's kept Red Bull interested and keeps his contract going.

This race might be the point where it becomes untenable in the future. It could be the one. I was going to ask you, do you think that this might be the moment where it's tipped over the other side? it might be and again there have been some bad performances where I haven't felt that's the case this might be the one I don't know Harry what do you think I I I know it's all rumors but I'm you know at least they kept Perez in the car for the rest of the year so they could do the Mexican GP because it's who thank you glad the crowd turned up for his 17th place finish yeah this could

could well be the the undoing but I think I would have said the undoing was already done but yeah there could be the final final nail in the coffin howmore markers made comment so yeah here we go. Did you hear that about what Paris's dad said? Yeah, but he's going to be a world champion. Yeah, Helmut Marco's like, I respect the father's optimism, but

being savage by Helmut Marco, it's okay? Oh no. Oh no. Sticking with Liam Lawson slightly because he had a bit more contact with Colopinto later on. Harry, did you have a view on that incident? I had this one was, I was okay with it. It was clumsy again.

again. But, and I know, so Lawson sort of runs Collopinter out of road, collar pinter comes back on, he bumps over the curve a bit, smacks into his front wing. I'm just a bit like, you're both young, you're both silly. Do you know what, you've both learned a lesson here. Don't do that again. I'm not too, wasn't too mad at it. Obviously, it compromised, compromised Lawson, but he sort of initiated the squeeze in the first place.

So, yeah. I had no massive issues with this one. I saw Collar Pinto was just battling everyone today. I know he didn't pit. He did pit for ages, but it just seemed to be, every time as a replay, it's like, oh, Colopinto is I'm going to fight again? With Piazri for about the half of the race.

Any read on that incident, Sam? It was very scrappy, wasn't it? And the kind of battle that you don't really need when your two drivers fighting outside of the points. You know how we spoke so fondly of a longso, knowing what battle to fight and what battle to leave? this felt like one of those where you think neither of you are doing well right now

the car isn't really working how you need it to you need to move forward move forward together you know realize which one of you is quicker and sit in the slip stream and make it work because I know they can't communicate it and it's very difficult to do so they're F1 drivers they want to fight for everything

but they need to be fighting for the points not fighting each other back in 12th 13th place at this point I don't think I put blame particularly in one driver the other they both had a go pushing each other wide they ended up not giving each other room and it showed a lack of experience from both drivers there. So racing, they both got their come up and so I think.

But it just felt scrappy and not needed for a place that gave them absolutely nothing coming to the Grand Prix. Very, very quick question. Just as you've mentioned, Fernando Alonzo. Did anyone, TV direction, commentator, anyone, realized he retired?

Yeah, Sky talked about it for a moment. Did they? Yeah, Martin said, oh, he's got that lovely 400th race helmet on. It's a shame you won't be able to finish the Grand Prix or something. He also retired from his 300th GP, so he's just not allowed to do those. Can't wait for 500. He'll still be going.

It will happen. No doubt about it. All the four seasons time. Yeah, I think the Colopinto Lawson incident just closed that one off was unnecessarily scrappy. I've got to be honest with both drivers this weekend. I wasn't particularly impressed by either of them. They were, they fell below my expectations. But the incident was, you know, Lawson's complaining at Colapinto, not leaving him any room.

approximately two seconds after he doesn't leave him any room. I don't have much sympathy for either to be. Yeah, either play the game or shut up. Yeah. The other incident we should just cover off quickly is that first corner incident between Alex Albin and Yuki Sonoda that caused both of their retirements. Sam, your view on that one?

Yeah, no, I think Yucon had every right to be there. I actually think it is a really unfortunate accident. There's a lot of cars going to a very small place. Pierre Gasly, And I don't think he's at fault for this, but he's trying to find himself some room so he comes over slightly. I don't think Gassi realizes

there's a third car on the other side of him where Albon is kind of right next to him. So Albon shuffles over, Gassie shuffles over. Albaugh's over some more. Gassie shuffles over some more. You see from Albon's point of view that it just pinks us. I think Gassi's so lucky not to come away

with any damage from that scenario. And Yuki just comes off by far. I mean, obviously Album retires as well, but Yuki by far the worst being thrown into into the wall there. The expression is you, brought up earlier, you know, you can't win the race on turn one, but you can lose it. It did feel risky, but equally, I don't think there's anything wrong with what he was trying

to do. I appreciate he made a good start. He was trying to take full advantage of it. He could pay off. Harry? I didn't disagree that it was unfortunate. I'm not saying this is anyone's fault. It's just turn one.

I just, I think, you see at the start, Albon, Albon has a couple of chunks out of him on the straight already. I'm tired of ties a couple of times, don't they? Yeah. And I just think, and again, it's just like the natural jockey. And he's got Gassley next to him anyway. So he's like trying to maneuver that. I just think, I think a different driver, Fernando Alonzo, a Lewis Hamilton.

They're probably just backing out of that one before they get to that. If it paid off, we'd be praising. I'd be praising him, obviously. And sometimes it's those risks you've got to take. But just given the context of where we are right now, given the crapness of Sergio this race, could have really done with a good result and I think that he'll look back and go oh I maybe should have backed out of that

so I don't I don't blame him I don't blame him for like the incident it was just unfortunate I just think he probably could have been a bit more circumspect about it yeah I'm aligned I'm aligned with that Mercedes finished fourth and fifth quick word on them Sam this is good as it's going to get for them I think

I think they were beneficial the Maxis Staff and picked up some penalties just a few if you hadn't noticed I also think they were quite lucky that Perez was god-awful and Piastri was unable to make his way back through the field properly after a really bad qualifying. Fifth and sixth was lucky, good, all right, you know, the best thing of hope for.

Hamilton and Russell had the world's longest battle. It went on forever and eventually Hamilton saw his way get through. But it just shows you how evenly matched. I think those two are when it comes down to it on certain days where Hamilton in his career and where Russell is on his career, they really show very similar qualities and are able to produce very similar results and it just happened to tip the way of Lewis Hamilton

to get. I know Russell had a very slight bit of damage on the front wing and maybe that caused some of the pace to be lost, but it happens like that. It goes that way sometimes. Sue points going for Hamilton over Russell this time. The gap between them goes up to 12. That mistake is battle with six so many times there's a reason why they're one of the best lying-ups because they're so easily able to take it to each other.

And very clean, very respectful. That's how you race your team mate, right? It was harsh, but they kept it on the track. It was a great fight. I think they could come away from that and shake each other's hand, to go, fair enough. Yeah, it's a difficult one to tell in terms of that front wing damage how much of an impact it had on George Russell.

I would lean towards it did have an impact just based on Russell being the faster car in qualifying and Russell being the faster car in the first part of this race. It wasn't until the second part of this race that Hamilton was the quicker driver, but again, tough to tell. I do have one point to make on Mercedes very quickly. They were over a pit stop away from the top three, as evident. by the fact that Charlotte Clerk could take that fastest lap away from, he could have that attempt.

And they were comfortably clear of the stab, and that was over 10 seconds. So they were in the middle of nowhere. You've got one car running a Silverstone spec in George Russell when they were good. And you've got Lewis Hamilton running the current spec in Mexico. Do you know what would have been really useful for Mercedes? To have them run their own races

and collect some goddamn damn. Instead, they are having the most needless battle of all time and not collecting any info. They should have just, I know George Russell's there next year and Hamilton isn't. They really should have just gone, give Hamilton the place, let's collect some data, and find out what's going on with our car, why it was working a few months ago and why it's not working now. Because, you know, that would be quite useful. The most damning part of the whole thing is that either spec is over a whole pit,

stop slower than the rivals they were beating in the summer break. It's not good news. Yeah, yeah. Not great. Anything you want to say on Merck, Harry? I just wrote down on my notes. At least they had fun. Not have a good time.

It's often forgotten having fun in F1. So I'm a fiesta. I appreciate you bringing up the point. They had a lovely time. Should we do some big brain strat? Let's do it. Harry, what have you got? my big brain strat which I've now momentarily forgotten is

oh no what was it your big brain strat is not remembering your big brain strut. Oh no I had it. Williams and Colapinto. I respect the hustle but also big respect to Colapinto I know it was only ever going to be a one stop behind safety car but man was just out there in the hard ties waiting, goal hanging for a safety car.

If that had come off then it would have looked really. good in the end it didn't but i i enjoyed it mainly because he stayed out for so long had a battle with everyone then came out of the piss and was as fast as the leaders which is just banter quite frankly you're right that's just colopinto from now on gets knocked down q1 starts on the hard tire hopes for a safety car doesn't get one tries to get the fastest lap rizzes everyone up i love that sam we've already mentioned it but sergo perris pitting for the fastest lap with a broken car is sensational banter. I loved it so much.

And that was a close run thing. My big brain strap has to go to the Sky Commentary Team talking about how oh, Mercedes are over a pit stop away. Maybe Charlotte Claire should try the fastest lap. And then Charles LeCler going to the team.

Yeah, we should probably think about the fastest lap here. Because again, I can just have visions of Ferrari going Oh, 30 seconds. How many seconds to do pits? Extra lesson 30. Let's do it. The worst part is that Ferrari are thinking all of the F1 world

were the last to realise that they should get the fastest lap point. Everyone said it. And then they go, oh, Charles said it. We should definitely do that thing. Great. Cheers. It's real, I'm not to take anything away from Ferrari from the past two races because they've been excellent, but it's been real fortunate that like any other competition has just been being stupid

for most of the time. That's how Ferrari will win one. I'm going to be out stupid I'm sorry Ferrari win a championship because they're not stupid I'm out of here it's not that they're not stupid

they're just the least stupid sure that counts not to that point I'm going to ask this question rhetorically because otherwise the answer would be no

but should we review bold predictions no no it's rhetorical mate can't say no we can't do it anyway it's a rhetorical no My bold prediction lasted a long time.

I said that both Williams would be in the top eight. That was over after Checks number, one lap. One straight, mate. He didn't get to turn one. Yeah. Sam, yours was also Williams-related. You said that Colapinto would be inside the top six. He was holding on for that safety car.

And boy, was I as well. Really, fingers were crossed. It still wasn't going to happen, was it? I reckon it was close. It was on the cuts. Oh, sure. I'm not sure what card it was on, but technically. Yeah.

Go points. Not quite. Harry, your bold prediction was that Sergio Perez would win the Grand Prix. Now, you also predicted this last year, and he retired on the first corner. And I've got no idea how, but I think you're more wrong this year. If he's still there next year, I'm going to triple down. Go on tripled down. To clarify, Harry,

thought that Perez would beat everyone and excluding retired cars, has beat no one. Good. That's a swing and a mess. We've had some real shockers on bold predictions. That is up there, I think, as a trio.

Somehow last year, Mexico was also terrible. And we've been more terrible again. We just can't predict. I mean, can't predict much, but Mexico especially. Terrible. I mean, between us as a team, we've had about six predictions right all year.

That's bad. But this isn't even close. No. In any sense. No, no, no. I've got one more segment on today's review episode. On the other side of this break, it's Moment of the Race. Welcome back, everyone.

Moment of the Race. We'll get into our Discord submissions very shortly, but before we get there, we'll each give our own submissions. So, Sam, kick us off. What was your moment of the race? I did have one that came before the Grand Prix, and that was Carlos Sainz, overtaking Landon Norris on foot, and then deciding just to wave the hang back.

and give a light little tap to Lando's Franken Beans which saw him in great despair at a start of interviews. I know what you mean, but I'm questioning the terminology. What else do I call it on the podcast? Anything.

What a Franken Beans legend. On track, I don't know there was loads. There was loads. I think I might have to bring up Sergio Perez Fasson for himself again. It was that funny. Oh, you can't do him like. You can't do him like that.

The fight, I know it was ridiculous and audacious is stupid, but the battle with Norris and the Stappen was just great watching. It was awful, but I bloody loved it. Harry, moment of the race. I've got so many to choose from here. We've already mentioned this one, but nope, it was a great start, which floored me. I burst out laughing when he said that.

Because factually, yes, you're not wronged, Checo. but it doesn't count. Sam, I'm surprised you didn't go to this. This is a genre of comedy, niche genre, but genre of comedy that you really enjoy, which was Sergio Perez was handed a five-second penalty

and it cut to Checo's dad. And this is where you work on YouTube, but he just went, okay. Like a little eye roll. Love camera cut to parents so much. Checo's time. I was just like,

God, this crap again. All right, champion, is it? Yeah. Norris of this happened, obviously. Peres and Lawson. Peres and Stroll. There's no penalty there, apparently.

Doesn't exist there? All of these I loved, but George Russell back at it again with the team radio. One was the rain when there was clearly no rain, so I think it might well have been sweating, George. And then the other one was when he was informed

about Vistappen's penalties. They were just like, wow. Wow. Turns into Owen Wilson. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah, some excellent moments from this race.

I enjoyed all of them. All of it. Yes, there's not too much left for me to say, but I do have two bits of team radio that I enjoyed. We've obviously already spoken about Perez calling Liam Lawson an idiot. But in the same team radio, I've just found it really funny that he went, Is he okay?

Are you well? That's more insulting than calling someone an idiot is asking whether they are mentally okay. The other one was, was GP to Max Verstappen when he was telling him about his penalty, just said going, um, for info. It's another one.

I bet he was dreading doing that message so much. Yeah. That whole exchange with GP and Max is great. Quite impressive. There's a lot of winging. And by the way, you've got another one. You've got another one.

We have got a lot of Discord submissions to go through. There have been many today. So we're not going to be able to get through all of them. to all of those that have put in your submissions. If you are, if you're a first timer, if you're not a first timer and you're not getting played today, don't you worry, there are plenty of opportunities still to come in this season.

Harry, we've got first. First off, we have Cronenberg. Connberg here, live from my liver room. I got to say, my moment of the race is probably that double dose of not DRS, but dirty driving from Max. That was wild. I thought he was literally trying to take Lando's life. some wonderful fat house

Did you guys hear Brunnel selling LeCler that he's complained about first world problems because he can't stop drinking his water when he's warming his pirates I'm drowning Also

Sergio But I'm on it Anyways You bring your lab boys I forgot drowning Lickler I forgot

LaCleur being waterboarding Was a thing I thought I took a wig. I'm warming his tires. Hold on me. Next of his Brown 30. Hey guys, Brown 30. My moment of the race was when JP told Max Verstappen,

he was given a 20-second penalty. And Verstappen's response was impressive. Also a shout-out to Hoss for a double points finish. That was impressive. You guys are awesome as always. and join the Discord. Thank you very much. Yeah, eight points going hastas away today.

And of course, I'll be picking up none. Another good result for them. Mojo Dojo Casa House is next. Well, the leg breakers, the moment of the race is Carlos Science plays. He absolutely made very little mistakes. Yes, he might have lost at least at the beginning, but he could be recovered and never look back.

Congrats to Ferrari. Keep breaking leg, like, nice. MDCH but L2. I like that he shortened it MDJ and DCH

It's a very Ben mover reeks of Ben Ben of Ben Huckin right next one this one is their name

and not a statement from me but this is Ed Shearing is hot my moment of the race is when Checo didn't

make it into his grid box and then when he got damage and then when he passed Joe

for last place and then when he pitted for the fastest I didn't get it. Oof. Kirstie, a little thing for you here. Can you just edit what Harry said there, so it makes it sound like he said,

this is a statement from me, egg shearing is hot, please. But you just said it as well, you're freaking moron. Yeah. I've got to go issue with it. I'm not embarrassed. I'm not ashamed.

Ben, you say as well, they get a comedy triple. Ed Shearron is an ugly. No, he's, yeah, he's lovely. Okay, good. next up is Ferrari strategy team who very kindly sent a submission in this is Ferrari strategy team long time listener first time to me

my moment of the race is Scarletal almost giving me a heart attack when he almost threw it in the wall at the last turn but thank you Ferrari for giving me a shred of hope that we might actually win the Constructed Championship yeah that's probably how the strategy team would have reacted I imagine he's watching

he's watching the water go go God, please go, I'll get a shreg of hope. I need some hope. Her Fisher is next. This is Fish and my moment of the race was when the graphic came on screen that said outstanding penalty

20 seconds from Max Ristappen because it was definitely outstanding but it was also outstandingly egregious. Griegeous. Great word. Yeah. Love doesn't get enough love egregious in this podcast.

underrated word. He's like the Carlos signs of words. Chiggles le giggles is next. Chico blaming absolutely anyone but himself. Oh, that's it. Is that it? That is that does chant. All right, good.

Norm, he is back. Norm from Texas. Here we go. Oh, hello, my link breaking friends from across Lee Bigwood. It is I. Norm from Texas. And I'm here to give me. my moment of the race and my moment of the race was the FIA actually having a pot of coffee

taking the time to watch video and making a decision and not, you know, waffling back and forth like you've been doing all season. Anyway, way to go. Gold Star there, guys. Anyway, keep breaking late. The drama. The drama that he delivers every time. I like the idea that the incidents happen and someone's like, someone, get the kettle on.

We're going to sit down. We got business to attend to. Someone waving their minds. client, I'll have one. Yeah, yeah. Anyone, what are I going? Because we got some stuff to review. That's why it takes so long every time.

Got to make 20s. Good. Cheers, Norm. Spicy pastry is next. Hey, boys, spicy pastry. My moment of the race is the youthful optimism of the commentators constantly thinking that the gaps that can be closed up. Just absolutely can't.

Six seconds in two laps? What are you guys smoking? Yes. Thank you for pointing this out. When he got past, like, when he got past, Leclerc and they're like, there's about six second gap with four laps to go. I wonder if he can close it down.

Like, no. Are you insane? You're trying to really build this hype. Come on. You're better than that. Thank you, spicy pastry. Hazer is next. Oh, all right, geezers.

My moment of the race has probably got to be Sergio Perez and Liam Lewis and have a bit of a spicy battle up and towards turn two. It's a bit like an FA Cup third round tie. You've got Premier League and League 2. They've got no right to be on the same pitch, but yet here we are. It's all entertainment. Georgineo, what was your moment of the race?

Cheers, Avia. My moment of the race has got to be Paris sat in a mile out of his grid box. Trying to make Harris ball predictions come correct. Cheers, boys. Cheers, Alvier. I love that Georgina and Javier and Javier could play for the Premier League or League two team

in FA Cup third round tie. Sensational as ever. Finally, last but very much not least is Joy. Well, don't you know, the handsome fellow will always be my moment of the race. He has rain on his visor always gets me. What? For reference, Sam on stream asked what a Midwestern accent sounds like. So I told him I'd do it in a submission.

So I just tried imitating my mom and all the other Wisconsin moms. Wow, I didn't expect that. There you go. That's something Irish, no? I'm just being mad. I'm not going to do it. Irish accent. No, no, no one, no more, no more accents.

Ever. You could attach that to any nationality and I think I'd insult them. Okay, let's, thank you, everyone. Let's get out of here before Sam does his shard of player impression. He's like a cabluck, it's fine, he's in tank. That wasn't us. Shush. Airbnb's so confused.

Everyone's so confused right now. It is probably a good idea to get us out of it, Sam. Folks, thanks for listening. Let us know your thoughts on the Mexican GP, where the penalty's correct, to Lando and Max race cleanly or was it just abhorrent behavior? Sergio Perez, has you got a drive? Who knows? Let us know your thoughts.

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Yeah, we'll be back for the Brazilian preview, of course. And then throughout the weekend we'll have qualifying sprint reviews, race reviews again. Lowe's coming up for you, so don't go anywhere. Is it a sprint? Ah, yes. Sorry about that, mate. The vibe just drop off the bloody cliff face at the end. Sorry about that.

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