The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2024 United States GP Review

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

The LB boys review the US GP where they were trackside! They discuss all of the action from the dominant display from Ferrari, the tense wheel to wheel action between Verstappen and Norris, and the tale of two halves for Mercedes... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League BUY our Merch EMAIL us at [e-mail]   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Welcome to the Late Breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry E, Sam Sage. Hello. And me, Ben Hocking. And I've introduced that as if there's three of us, but in reality. There's a special guest.

We've got another person here. You have to watch the YouTube edition of the video, but there is a young man sat next to me with a kind of Chili beans in front of him. Hello, Charles. Charles Lemurk. This is Shalernerk, folks. On the podcast, we'll see him.

We'll put a photo up on social, I'm sure. He's delightful and he's got no hands. Yeah, I decided to adopt him. Essentially, he's a cardboard cut out that we found half of him of being at the race track. Let's move on. Pretty much. We'll update as to whether we can smuggle him back to the UK or not. We've actually got racing to talk about as well, of course.

We've got Moment of the Race submissions coming up later on in the episode. We've got a chat about Liam Lawson and Franco Colopinto and how both of those drivers found their way into the points, despite not having the best starting positions. Mercedes had a very interesting day, so more on them later on. And of course, we'll focus on the Ferrari 1-2. We're going to start with Vestappan v. Norris, as this was a feature of the race multiple times.

We saw into turn 1. Both drivers were on the front row of the grid, Norris on pole, Vestappen 2. and Vastappen sending it up the inside of Lando Norris, which slowed both of them down enough to give Charlerclair the lead going out of term one. And then the battle resumes later on as Lando Norris chased down Max Vastappen,

ultimately getting past him, but getting past him off track and earning himself a five-second penalty that was applied at the end of the race, giving Vestappan third and Norris fourth, which, of course, championship-wise, means that Vastappen has extended his championship advantage rather than the other way around.

Should we tackle this somewhat chronologically, Sam? Turn 1. How did you view it? Messy. Let's look at the move itself first before we get into the technicalities, the legal situation of the move itself. So, obviously, Landon Norris has got actually a pretty good start off the line.

He's done the job that he's struggled to do, where he can't lead a way into turn 1. He did a really, really good job. The issue there was he just left the door open. so wide, even with moving over and getting a great launch, he left so much space at the inside for Maxwell Stappen. And Cota at turn 1, there's about 4,700 lines that you can take into turn 1 and it still be efficient. And Max Verstaffin thought, you know, that's a big old door right there. I'm going to walk on through it. And boy, did he walk on through it. And he walked on through it quite assertively,

I would say, is the correct phrase. So much so that both of them end up off track on the other side. Now, no penalty given, no warning given. They both had to kind of run them. themselves into the runoff zone and then come back on track in front of a load of cars. And of course, that meant that both Ferraris at that point, well, somewhat science as well, managed to sneak on through to kickstart what turned out to be an incredibly dominant Grand Prix for Charles LeCler. It's not a move I'm in favour of at all. I really don't enjoy the style of racing that is just keep driving a driver until the age of the track

when they fall off and they can't fight you anymore and therefore you get to keep or take the position. I am very much a big fan of the big words of Fernando Alonso, which are all. all of the time you must leave with the space. And it's a motto to live by. So disappointed that this is how we saw the kind of the changing of the leads between our two championship protagonists on turn one. What do you think?

What do you think, Harry? Yeah, so I realized I just, I hadn't said anything yet. So hello everyone. Yeah, sorry, Harry said. He is here. I was trying to fiddle with some, some sample buttons. Oh, I'm at least sick something else. I wasn't doing that.

Yeah, Messi is the little messy. Oh, yeah, yeah. um the jensen button talked about this in the sky uh post ratio we've seen a clip with horner right with christian horner and he said he mentioned if you're at monaco this rule of whoever's at the front of the apex that doesn't exist because if they do what they do in monaco wall you hit a wall so yeah it does it's i i i end again this button i think said this i don't i'm not necessarily man of Stappen because I think he's driving within the rules that we currently have.

Agreed. So he's just doing what he's allowed to do. And we saw it, it wasn't him, it wasn't the only one we saw we were at 1012. Jim, did we mention we're at Coato this weekend? I don't think it's come up. Rest in peace, that joke. That joke after today.

Everyone on the podcast sighs with relation. To be fair, maybe we'll mention it in the Mexico preview because we'll still be here. Okay, not quite rest in peace. Not quite rip. Lots of legs. but we saw it in front of where we were sat at turn 12 where drivers would just send it

and the other driver had to go off the road but because of the you're ahead of the apex rule they give penalties out or they don't give penalties out to that person so yeah it was the term one one was messy but again and similar to turn 12 but I don't I'm not I can't be mad at the Stappen quite frankly yeah if you're mates for Stappen

why on earth wouldn't you do that? Because he's not even getting investigated. But he's just, he's making that sort of move into term one. And it's not the first time he's made that sort of move. He has, I don't want to say no intention of making the corner, but he has every understanding that he could, well, run off the track or not give the driver alongside him the space he requires. And it doesn't matter.

As long as the stewards don't penalize this, Vestappen should absolutely keep doing it. But I'm the same. I don't like it. I think you should always leave one car's width on the outside. And I don't really agree with the concept of if you're ahead at the apex, you can do whatever the hell you want. Because you could just barrel in there at 200 miles an hour. Wow, you know, I was ahead at the apex.

Like, yeah, only because you couldn't get it slowed down in time to leave that space. So fair blade of us happen for doing it. I don't blame him whatsoever. Wasn't there an incident this year at Monaco with Ocon where he absolutely sent it at, is it just before the corner before the tunnel? Portier. Portier. Yeah, didn't he?

Didn't stick though, did it? But there was an argument saying he was ahead of the apex. Yeah, yeah. Which I didn't pay off that time, though. No. Because it's a wall. Was there a crash? I can't remember now.

I think there might have been a crash. Yeah, a little bit of a crash, mate. Into his own team, mate. Thank you. So when there's a wall, it's different. Yeah. That's a great example, though, because he was technically ahead at the apex,

but only because he'd dive bomb him. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't like the first corner at all. If it's me, I'm penalising that sort of thing. But it's quite regular at Cota to have interesting turn ones. I think it's something that's always been discussed about how, at most circuits, there's a very natural, what side of the track you want to be on, you know, starting from pole.

Coeter's one of the weird ones where you do technically want to start on the outside because you've got the racing line into one. But also, we have seen plenty of times where you get the inside of that corner and do what the staff and does and you're winning, son. Are you winning, son? I just said son and my mic was standing down, so that's good. Just hear you in the background of the room. Son.

son are you winning son good good this podcast is already unhinged can I also before we move on this is entirely unrelated to F1 but I feel like the people of YouTube need to see can we just all slightly stand up oh god

okay well you can see top half first of all yes look at us we're all wearing a black t-shirt everyone similar just so you're wearing I know this was planned and we walked into the living room in the Airbnb here this morning and we were like oh no because we are all wearing

exactly we are all wearing the same clothes so if you're listening to that going to YouTube and have a look because it's embarrassing. Without even playing it, we've all won the same outfit. Yeah. Vastapen and Norris.

The real topic. That wasn't the only incident that Vestappan and Norris had into turn one. We also had, later on in the race, Lando Norris chasing down Max Vostappen for the final place on the podium,

a number of near attempts going into turn 12 that was right in front of us. And then finally, Landon Norris around the outside, both Vostappan and Norris, and Norris not able to stay on the track. Norris getting by on the outside,

picking up a five second time penalty, which when applied at the end of the race, just about put him behind Max Verstappen. Nine-tenths. Yeah, nine-tenths. Your view, Sam, on... Talk a little bit about the battle leading up to the overtake as well,

and then, of course, the overtake itself. Yeah, the battle leading up to the overtake was feisty. We got to have the brilliant view all the way down that back straight from 11 down to 12, and multiple times to land there was sniffing around. I'm a little sniff. I was having a big old sniff. Yeah, you know.

Like a dog in a park, he's having a sniff. And the Stapper was definitely the target. And he got close to, he got close to. There was a couple of moves where they can't go wheel to wheel. And the Stauffin very cleverly hugged the inside lying. No mercy, no room given. And then we get to the action incident itself, which is almost an exacerbated version of everything we've just seen before.

And my one issue here, so we've got the rule itself that we've just discussed. We, now have us like that rule. We agree that it doesn't make sense. I think my big problem overall today, race day, is the inconsistency of the application to the rule and its lack of clarity. If we have this rule, okay, I can not like the rule, but I can accept that the rule is there. And if you're going to apply it the same every single time, fine.

At least there is some kind of understanding of how everyone needs to race and they can all you the same thing. But throughout this Grand Prix and for other Grand Prix across the season, this rule has not been applied in the same. manner. Turn one, exactly the same thing happens at turn 12. Both drivers go off the track, one who is defending, one who is attacking, but both leave the track.

Just because someone's at the front of the apex, whatever. George Russell, he was firing Valtry Blotas, who was coming back through the field. He did pretty much exactly the same thing as what happened with Vestappan and Norris. He actually kept one tire, I think, inside the white line, gets a five second time penalty. So the defense, well, the attack, yeah, I know.

The attacking driver on the inside, then got the penalty, which is confusing. And then Carlos Saintermax for Stappan, earlier in the grow and predicting exactly the same thing, no penalty was applied earlier. And the example I want to bring up that I saw a little while ago was when Norris and Vastappen were fighting at Austria and Norris went down the inside of turn three and Vastappan came all the way around that outside curb, straight back on the track and was again back in front of Norris, no penalty giving in that instance either.

So completes the move off track, gains an advantage. So the lack of consistency here is just, honestly, it's mind-numbingly ridiculous at this point. I can't call out the FIA and the stewards and the way we implement these rules anymore, but there's no clarity, no consistency in how these rules are delivered. And the fact that Lando was told by his team, yeah, he's done nothing wrong there, you're good to go, shows that these teams don't understand how the rules are being applied. The drive, Max Verstappen is playing the game brilliantly.

He's read up the regulations, every single work of them, and he knows how to apply them properly. As we said, don't blame him for doing it. They are the rules. He's playing by them. But the rules are stupid, and the rules don't get applied properly anyway. And no one does you understand them apart from Max for Stappen. So yeah, absolutely hate that there became a penalty from that.

I think you should be straight over the radio, give the position back, and that should be the clarity that you need. So Landa can carry on battling with the Stappen for the next couple of laps. A shame that that battle ending up being decided by five second time penalty after the race that essentially no one really saw coming because people weren't sure on the rules of the sport. In the battle leading up to that incident, Harry, I think we turned to each other about three times and went, Matt's Westappen. It's quite good, isn't it?

Quite good, yeah. His defending was sublime. Car positioning. Like, it was sensational work from Vastappen. And again, I can't be mad at the final move he made in terms of trying to defend the inside, because that's well within the rules. And I'm not saying I agree with it,

but well, well within the rules. And with Norris then going off and then clear, the place off the circuit, even though they were both off the circuit, he's technically in the wrong as it stands. So, yeah, I thought Stapham was really impressive with how he defended it.

I know the outcome was, obviously, there was a five-second penalty for Norris, but the fact that then Rastaffin defended it that well for so long in a car that was clearly going slower in terms of, you know, tireware. He defended it for that long, that it helped him get that place back

when the penalty was applied, because if that had happened, he got passed earlier. Norris would have more chance to get up the road. So I was impressed by Vastappen. Again, I can't be too mad at the outcome from that side because he's doing it within the rules. As you say, Sam, where it falls down

is the inconsistency of where it's applied because George Russell did exactly the same but got a penalty for it. But I think actually it's just unfair to Salba. They just felt sorry for Bottas. You can't do that. We've got to give them something. Yeah, we'll give them a fight.

say we'll give georgia five seconds for that um yeah so what because within the ruling as you say he was actually more on circle than vestappen was russer russell so within the ruling how is that fair how is that worse than what vastappen was doing doesn't make any sense um the signs vestappen one the only i can see why they let that go because i know they both flew off the track um but order was maintained in terms of the positioning so i see why they let that one go um But, yeah, the inconsistency of it is, once again, baffling, and I'm going to hand over to Ben Hocking. Oh, no.

Strap as well as in, folks. No, I want to at least talk about the defending of Vastappen first, because I thought it was sublime. I, like you just said, his car positioning was supreme. And I think his... Sorry, I was having a Starbucks. Love that. I've finished enough.

Sorry. It also made me realize his defending and how the race unfolded. I think with sprint weekends sometimes because we don't have, we've got two qualifying sessions. We've only got that first practice session. We don't have anything more than that. So it's difficult to tell race pace-wise. So coming out of the sprint, which for Staffen obviously won,

I was a bit unsure on how impressive was that win? Obviously it was impressive full stop, but like how impressive was it? and I think the way the race unfolded, I was like, oh, he did very well to win that sprint because I don't think it should have done. If Ferrari didn't fight between themselves, maybe he wouldn't, but he did a great job converting on the Saturday and then great work defending on the Sunday as well.

The move itself from Lano Norris, this whole debate is mind-numbingly stupid. How are we here? How are we still talking about? this. How have they not worked this out yet? Like, my, my view on it is that if you have one of your wheels, one of your front wheels as in the attacking driver, alongside or ahead of the back wheel of the other car, but let's say ahead, then you have the rights to a car's width of space. And if that other driver doesn't give it to you, I don't care if you passers, honestly, they could go out to

the DHL barrier and pass, I've got no sympathy at that point because you'd know the rules and you'd know that you have to leave that space. If you don't leave the space, then they're free to do whatever they want. And if they overtake off track, so be it, you put them there. And if you don't want that to happen, don't put them there. Now, that's my view on it. I appreciate some have another view of not that, but at least if the defending driver can't stay on the track, then, you know, they should probably let it fly, which I'm okay with. But I just, extend it even further to you have to leave that space. And if you don't, deal with the consequences of it. But as you said, Sam, it just comes back to the inconsistency. That has to be the most

infuriating part of it. Like, even if you're going to apply a rule that I don't particularly like, if you apply it across the board, okay, I'll deal with it. I know what to expect. And I know each time that what's expected of both drivers and if they don't do it, what's going to happen? And they just can't get it right. I don't understand. It's not like this is a brand new... Overtaking is not a brand new concept in this sport. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It's happened before, actually. I'm not saying it. I dare say overtaking has been around as long as F1 has, which means they've had a number of years to get this right, and instead they seem to get it more wrong. So well done. What's frustrating is historically, I don't feel like this has ever really been a massive problem

up until the last kind of five or six years. We've had incidents, but I don't remember going on like this, you know, time and time again, where we see drivers, it's actually plagiarizing the rules to make sure that they can stay in front. This is going to happen.

Probably a combination of circuits changing in terms of runoff and a tarmac runoff. And I don't want to sound like a old man yelling back in my day but the younger generation of drivers now that we have as young uh the new generation of drivers we have have grown up that during their racing career racing on circuits that have this sort of runoff so that that I would say that's that's like a uh it goes beyond just F1 I think that's just the way things have happened because you this is probably why people like Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonzo the old men of the sport um

get quite cheesed off with drivers that do Liam Lawson, for example, this weekend. He was bordering on the edge of not correct. But I can see why people like Alonzo are annoyed because that's just not the way they would have raced or they do race now. It's just a different mindset. So I think it's probably why this is now more of an issue than it has been beforehand. You mentioned a great point in there. Track limits.

Just put some gravel there. Do you know what, Sukratty? You won't do it if there's gravel there? Have people not notice Austria? You know the little gravel traps in Austria? That's very simple. Just do that. That works brilliantly well.

Again, this is infuriating because ahead of the US Grand Prix, there was a debate of, there was action taken at Austin to improve the track limits issue. And where is it? Didn't see it. So well done. Yeah, good stuff. You know what? I think we've remained surprisingly calm.

We're tired. Very hungover. That's what you think. I flips the table. Ben Suleim, I'm coming for you. Okay, we'll get to move on. Should we review our bold predictions? Why?

No. Do we have to? All right, then let's head to one. Harry, what was your bold prediction? I said that Liam Lawson would beat Sergio Perez. You know what? It's a fair effort. It's a fair effort.

Lawson gave it a good go. Perez gave it a bad go. If we said when you made that prediction on Thursday that Lawson would finish ninth, you'd have gone, hmm, maybe. So I'm not too disappointed with that one, even though it's still wrong. Sam.

So I said that both Harses will finish in the top six. And guess what? Guess where Hars are in the Constructorses Championship? we had both cars at it. That's not how this works. A tech car is here. No legends have recommended you. Can I go out on a limb here?

Go on, mate. You might have got carried away by the live crowd. I reckon you might lose that limb. Gosh, that's a threat. I'm getting carried away by this. I'll be like Shola Merck in a minute. Just no hands. Yeah, no, it was wrong.

It was wrong. I was also wrong. I can't believe you wrong. Okay, so I've, not had a lot of luck when it comes to bowl predictions this year. But this one proves I am goddamn cursed. This year, you've actually stinker after stinker. Yeah, but I just want to get one completely wrong.

I don't want... Okay, so my bold prediction was that Lando Norris and Max Verstappen at some point across the weekend would have contact. How didn't they have contact? Such good wheel-to-wheel driving from both of them. Yeah. They did everything but that. They were getting pretty, especially with some of the late moves as well.

well. Yeah, that breaking maneuver from Norris up turn one was, oh, that was close to uncomfortable. So I am basically saying at this point, I am cursed for the year and it doesn't matter what else happens because I will get it wrong. There's nothing I can do. Oh, well, mate. It's always next year. Maybe. Should we take our first break? Okay. On the other side, we're talking about Ferrari. We'll try and wake up more, I promise. Welcome back, everyone. a bit of an odd one for us because usually our first topic on a race review would be looking at the driver or a team that won the race. Instead, we're occupying topic two with the news that Ferrari first and second in the Grand Prix, Charles LeClau, winning the race, Carlos Sines in second.

A Ferrari won two, Sam. Where on earth did that come from? Marangelo. Good stuff. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, that car, the level of dominance, It's a problem. You're not seeing something like that. Well, I don't think all season, realistically, even in Monaco when they drove well, it's Monaco, so it's hard to judge a level of, you know, a dominance between one team.

Of course, they won really well in Australia as well, right at the back of the start of the season. Again, that was the stabbing out, so we don't know the true pace of how that race will have gone ahead, how he finished it. And, of course, when LeClaire won in Monza, that was more strategically brilliant than it was outright pace.

So this feels like the first time that we've seen Ferrari dominance. at a Grand Prix this season. Eight wings in total for LeCler across his career now matches Daniel Ricardo who was sorely missed here in Austin. And I'm shocked at how much of a

dunkin they gave to the rest of the field. 17 seconds it was back to the next Nong Ferrari car from Charles LeCleur. Carlos Sikes just doesn't do tire wear anymore. No thank you. Got still order in it. Take it out my basket. Don't want tire wear. He played absolutely blind and stopped early.

Went long and a hard. Undercut, everyone around him and got her comfortably, kept pulling away from the stab of the Norris, even on the older tyres. I was really quite surprised just how good they were. But I told you in the preview that we did live, Ferrari are not out of this. They have something. Even Lecler said afterwards, we can go after a title here. It is ambitious. It is unlikely, but it's not impossible.

I genuinely think they are outside contenders for this. If they can maintain that pace, that dominance for the next five Grand Prix, there's something there. It's going to get spicy. Harry, we saw in the sprint race after Sines and Leclair had finished fighting each other, they actually had pretty good pace. And on Sunday, they executed on that pace. Yeah, I mean, fair enough to Ferrari for mucking about in the sprint race, which a laugh on it.

Yeah. Yeah, it was very surprising how quick that car was during the road. I mean, especially, especially. Which is strange because. he wasn't as much in the sprint base. Science was all over it, right? But anyway, I guess, again, Sunday is where it really counts. So, yeah, the pace that he could just go.

It just didn't matter. He obviously was fortunate, but very well placed at the start of the race to pick up the pieces of the chaos of turn one. And after that, he could just go away, sort off into the distance. You said to me on the coach home, would have been actually really interesting had he not got the lead of term one because I think it would have been quite a good race to watch him try and battle to

do you think he will look up through I think still would have done it yeah but yeah easily the most convincing performance from Ferrari this year

as you said some Australia they were slightly gifted in the Vestappan was out with that reliability issue Monaco wasn't very dominant

but LeClau obviously nailed it with the pole position and then from there they could do all they wanted Monza was strategically and Shard of Claire being a god

this was just pure goodness from Ferrari your goodness Ferrari goodness. We said it to each other in the stands. Strategically, they nailed the strategy as well. Because I said to Ben, I was like,

when they were one and three in the race, because they were Stapin in the middle. I said they are perfectly placed to do a little pincea movement on Vastappan here. You pit signs first. Check, they did that. Put them on the hard tire. Check, did that.

Forced Fustapen to pit. And then the clerk could just pit whenever he wants. I know he had a big lead anyway, but pit whenever he wanted. Yeah, that's Matt. He's 11 seconds clear when that was started to happen. So you could throw, they nailed everything.

The car was good and strategy was good. When was the last time that Ferrari actually got all of the things correct? I mean, we were questioning in the stands whether they were impostors and they weren't actually Ferrari. It was that good. Hans Schmints is dressed up being all red for once. You know, I'm buying that as a conspiracy theory because I don't know what else could cause this.

They were great. And, you know, Charlotte-Claire, you could say, sure, he was, he benefited massively from what happened with Vastappan and Norris. But he took advantage of that. And the way in which he sped away from those two early on in the Grand Prix, very impressive. Certainly the second half of the race, his pace was not as strong as the first half,

but equally it was still more than good enough to see home the result. And of course, when you have such a big lead, I'm sure he wasn't massively pushing. I think he backed it off. The way Sykes was pulling the gap down on those older tires, I really think he backed it off. Yeah. So outright pace.

very good. Tireware was phenomenal. I think as soon as Carlos Sines came into the pits and Vostappan came in a little bit later, I was thinking, okay,

Vestappen's probably going to reel signs in and then we'll see if he can actually make the move or not. Nope. He was no threat whatsoever from

Vestappan, Norris, anyone. I honestly think Carlos Sines, he was on one this weekend. The way in which obviously term one played out,

signs out qualified, he qualified third but he was on the outside of that quarter he got so unlucky with a line through exactly and charles lecler was the one that was able to take advantage i think signs may have been quicker than lecler i i think they had pretty comparable pace um of course lecler benefited from having that free air early on in the grand prix if signs has the same thing i think he he wins this as well which is great for ferrari that they've got two drivers that i think both had the pace to win this Grand Prix. But to go away from this, at least the main race itself with 43 points, even though they somewhat messed up the sprint based on them fighting each other, they still did

pretty well there too. And now they are, they are right there with Red Bull in the Constructors Championship and not a million miles away from McCarrum. Now, if they do what they did today twice over, they will be less than five points away from leading the Constructors title. Still got a couple of sprints in there as well. That's still got plenty of. to pay, plenty to play for. Pay for. Plenty to pay for. You're running up that debt, boy.

It's a cost of cap, lads. Can't pay for a lot. Do you think Ferrari can go after anything, Harry? I still don't trust them. I mean, that's fair. Let's go with the yes. If the upgrade, because we saw a glimpse of the upgrades in in Singapore, but they fluffed up, collie,

and didn't show. it really in the race properly, but we knew it was there. Austin was a test of whether they would work at what you'd say is a very different track. So that's a very encouraging sign for them. So with that in mind, you say, yeah, they can be in the mix. The problem for them is that now that they are also in the mix, you've got three teams all chipping away with each other. It makes it quite hard to chase down the ones at the, yeah, yeah.

Ones at the top. So even if they are now the quickest car, they've only got five races left. to do it. Ferrari, start your goodness at the start of the year. Or just don't muck up an entire half of the season within that grade. It's going to come to the end of the season and Canada's going to be the reason

they haven't won this title. I don't. Yeah, I think they could be a threat. One of the points I made in the preview was that what we saw here at Austin, that's probably going to be about it for all teams for the rest of this year.

You're unlikely to see any major updates throughout the rest of this season you might get one or two minor updates but for the most part what everyone was able to show at Austin they are going to carry that through for the next five races

and I mean Austin is a bit of an all-rounder as a track like if you can be good at Austin you're probably good elsewhere like Mexico is I'd say fairly similar to Austin like you've got that big long straight but equally you have you have a mini S section in the middle there Yeah, it's almost like the back to front coter, isn't it, really?

But yeah, I think if you can be good at Austin, you can probably be good at Mexico. You can probably be good at Qatar as well. So it bodes well. They might have left it too late. There is a very good chance they might have left it too late. But equally, you know, if Lando, Norris and Max Verstappen, because I think one of the reasons why Ferrari were able to capitalize is because of the Norris and Vestappen battle, I'm not sure Max Vastappen, if that points gap, is the other way round, for example, and he can't afford to lose any points.

Maybe he doesn't dive bomb Lando Norris in the same way into term one, at which point Ferrari don't get ahead, and then they have to, maybe they get ahead anyway, but they have to work it. I don't know. There is, I think there's at least a possibility that Norris and Vostappen that battle

could cause Ferrari to just sort of like sneak around the outside. Do you think they've got been taken seriously by the others? I think there's a little part of it. They're so focused on each other. Maybe. I think it's more just like they're focused on the driver's championship. And I think there's a legitimate question as to whether that fight might be over now, thanks to what happened at Coeter.

But yeah, I think there is an element of their scrapping away for that title. And, well, you know, Ferrari aren't completely dead in the water when it comes to the constructors. It can be interesting final five. Indeed. Shall we do driver of the day? Oh, no, hang on. No. Can I do it in a minute, folks?

Please, please. Okay, Ben, do that again. Should we do Driver of the Day? The verdict is in. You're the driver of the day. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. Who was your driver of the day, Sam?

Quite a few contenders here. I'm going to take the easy one. Shall La Claire. The dominance was there. He was flawless. Absolutely smashed it. return. Brilliant,

brilliant performance. But a little shout out for Lawson, Colopinto and a few others. Who was driver of the day? Harry? I'll also go, Leclair, because,

because, yeah, he was very good, actually. But yeah, shout out to Lawson, shout out to Colapinto, shout out to Russell. I know Russell put himself in that position during Kauley,

but his stint on those hard tires was actually very difficult. I think it's still going. It hasn't changed yet. Okay. Shal Lemert, who was your driver of the day? I like chili beef beans.

Helpful. Thanks, Sean. Cheers, Sean. My vote is going to go to, I'm not going to go for Leclair. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Liam Lawson, baby. Please never do that again.

Ben's doing two owls with this. Yeah. Index finger and thumbs. Loll. Oh, no. Oh, no. We're back in 2009. Yeah, I thought it was great.

He just going to do it. He went all the way from 19 to 9th. I was managing expectations in the preview, and then he just completely... Please put them down. He did a great job. He made up 10 positions in the Grand Prix. What more could I say?

Oh, thank God they're down. Finally. Yeah, don't you worry. Let's do Worst Driver of the Day now. Oh, yeah. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, bin, worse driver of the day. Ben, Ben, Ben, worst driver of the day. You're stuck at driving.

Here you got, Sam. Well, I'd like to say worst driver of the day, but more like worst driver of three laps. Oh, no. I don't think Lewis Hamilton decided to re-turn up this weekend. I don't think he was there. I am convinced. There he is.

He's behind some imposter. There he is. I can't get the mask off. There he is. Yeah. Sorry, Lewis. Yeah, no. the whole weekend, absolute shambles.

He looked all right on the Friday in sprint qualifying, in sprint one and sprint two. And then it just, it just went downhill from the moment any actual action decided to happen. I just don't think he, I think he's checked out. I think the,

when we get on this probably, I think he's so done. But yeah, spilling on his own like this. He came out with a little speech saying that this was the first time was ever sprung in his own, which would probably take a little debate

from the three of us for quite a while. And to be fair, we can only find one other example. Well, Monsa, in 2009, but like a word with you, please, Lewis. But other than that, I think you're pretty... Fifteen years ago, Lewis. Come on.

You're punk. You're not getting away with us. But yeah, Lewis, there was some bad drivers to go, but that mistake was pretty damning. Only DNF for the whole race. It's yesterday, actually. Oh, sorry, I'm really struggling. Harry.

Hamilton is probably a pretty fair shout. Oh, no. Sergio Perez. Aliski scored points. Yes, but... Was beaten by the man who started getting the pit. He was beaten by George Russell, who started in the pit lane. And I know people, but we get comments every week because we're being harsh on him.

But there's, there's just not a lot, not a lot of positive things to say. And I know Sergio obviously is trying to spin it to be positive, you know, or when he's posting on social media and stuff. But I know the Red Bull is clearly not. the dominant car it was, so you can't expect him to be up there all the time with Vistappan. We know how good Vastappan is. But this has been the problem with his year and even the past couple years where he's just, he's just not close enough.

And he was stuck. Both races, sprint and main race, he spent a good time staring at Yuki Snowda's ass. He was stuck behind the R.B. for a long time. But yeah, I think the nail in the coffin, I probably wouldn't have given it to him if this didn't happen. But the nail in the coffin is George Russell. overtaking him on track,

despite starting in the pit lane. Yeah. Ben, what did you say the gap was between the Stappen and Peres? I didn't say, it might be something like 35 seconds. I didn't say.

No, no, I didn't see exactly what it was. Quite large. I think it was about 35. Yeah. Sorry, Sergio. And please don't come after us fans,

but I can't defend it. You've got to be realistic with yourselves at this. If you're a fan of Sergio Perez, you've got to, come on, looking at it realistically. It's not a pinning on him as a person.

He's just not going very quick, is he? Like, be realistic about it. Just to annoy more people, Alex Album. Oh, I'll get on to him later. He was crap. Yeah, I was about to say, I hope you don't think Alex Album

that you've got away with not getting a mention in this topic because, yeah, he was not good this week. Crap is the word. I saw this is from my dad. Oh, he's played the wrong jingle. You've waited so long to use it. Oh, crap.

The secret to comedy is, mate. What? Timing. It'd be really funny if you wait, like 10 seconds to say that. Timing. Sorry, no, my dad told me this, but James Vals was saying that in the term one incident, they think that Albon damaged a bit of his diffuser,

which feels a bit far-fetched because he punted someone, but also don't punt someone. Don't drive into another car. Don't do that. You know what? Great saving qualifying, Alex. What's better than great save? Not having to do one.

Yeah. Keeping your lap time. I'm actually going to go with Lewis Hamilton, though, because he retired on the second lap for a spin. And I know Toto Wolf and Mercedes are saying it was them, not Lewis that was at fault, but I don't know. The car seems like a handful, but come on, he's Lewis Hamilton. The guy's got the ability to keep a car on track.

Yeah, I'm going to Hamilton. The Russell one, obviously, is not good. I know the same corner, it was slightly different because he clipped the curb, but it's also in quality. Exactly, it's in qualifying. This is not a lap two of the race where you're not pushing as hard. let you say. Big brain strat, sorry.

You're absolutely mugging me off here, mate. You got it. Box for wets. What? It's not even raining now. What are you talking about? Sam.

I've gone fast a slap. Yeah, boy. Yeah, I'll be it all over this one. So love that. Absolutely no need for it. Wasn't held by a rival of any kind. Save the planet, bro. Keep the tires on.

Thank you, Karpinto. With the best line I've heard. Formula One. Yeah, I loved it. It was so unneeded. It wasn't held by anyone else. They weren't losing points to someone who had the fastest up that's directly alongside them.

They just wanted it, apparently. And Ockon actually did it. So, you know, finishing 18th, but fastest lap. But it wasn't Ockon who got the fastest lap. It was all of the French. Thank you, France. Big brain strap. I'll go for Hasse, absolutely nailing the two-stop.

Oh, God. It's Kevin Malmston. Kevin, Kelvin's so good. Only, spoiler, this is mine as well. Only two Chalmers did the two stop. Estabano,

Ockon, as previously mentioned, which, I don't know, they did it for banter. Literally, and he got a lot. And Huss with Kevin Mangson,

in what was clearly, I know what they said beforehand, a two-stop race, but Hasse, if, read the situation, read the room, if it's not a now longer,

my guys. It's no longer a two-stop race. You don't have to two-stop. And he didn't have to either. He went medium hard. So he could have just carried on. And his pace was good.

He could have done well. Yep. So, has you look quick most of the weekend, but actually not a great result on the end. Yeah, they've managed to jump RB

in the standings, but it could well have been more if not for that strategy call. That is mine as well. I don't. It was with a one weekend as well. That might have been Kevin Magnerson's best race weekend of the season.

He was flying. No more for you. He was right up there with Nico Holkenberg. That qualified him, didn't they? Fully deserved a top 10 finish, and they went for a two-stop, which didn't work.

As soon as he came out, he came out pretty much side-by-side with Colopinto, who would just stop for the first time. So they had the same tires on, and Colapinto started a lot further back than Kevin Magnuson. So that's an easy one for me.

You take our second break. On the other side, we're talking about Mercedes. It was an interesting weekend for old Mercedes, wasn't it? In that you had George Russell starting from the pit lane and Lewis Hamilton starting from the penultimate row on the grid. Not a great qualifying session whatsoever for them. An attention turned to the race to see if they could recover that or not. 50% true, 50% false.

George Russell went all the way back to sixth place to finish ahead of the likes of Sergio Perez. Lewis Hamilton was out after a couple of laps. So contrasting fortune, Sam. This was Lewis Hamilton's worst weekend in Formula One. I'll pickleyn. I don't think that's far-fetched to say, though. The amount of sessions that he had in the car that were competitive, and he was essentially either the slowest or one of the slowest people on the racetrack,

or if not putting it in the gravel, it was like watching a rookie for the first time. I didn't know what they were doing. outclassed by George Russell at every turn. Russell showed what that mistake was able to do. He hated the upgrades so much, and he went, George should have mine after George put it in the wall.

He just is so done. He's so fed up of being in that car. He just wants the big shiny red car now, which, you know, I can understand. But he's sick to death of driving that Mercedes, and he's driving it so badly. He's had a real poor runner form recently. He's being outclassed by Russell.

And what a drive from Russell. Yes, it was his own mistake that put himself in the wall in qualify, which meant he had to start from the pit lane, and it caused the team a world of hurt having to rebuild that car, having to find the parts off of Hamilton's car, really messy situation for them. But at least he repaid them with a fantastic drive,

a well-executed strategy, P6, beating a rival in Sergio Perez. Pace was really, really strong, got moves done all day long cleanly, even with the five-second penalty. It did not affect him because he did more than enough to make it count. I was really impressed by Russell,

even with the mistake. Hamilton, I don't think I've been more disappointing in Lewis Hamilton in a race weekend for a long, long time. This was really, really nath. What did you make of Mercedes? A tale of two halves. Conclusion.

Mercedes were, they started off the weekend really badly. Friday they were absolutely never. That car looked like hell. That practice session, I don't think anyone went off more than Mercedes. They just wouldn't stay on the track. It's like Grosjean. They turned it around in. sprint qualifying.

They seem to have gained some pace again. Then you get to real, the sprint race, they could only do eight laps for some reason. Russell had all the pace and then he no longer had the pace. By now, pace. By now pace. The last time we never had that pace, it was just cruising around behind them by six seconds.

Yeah. And then you get to the qualifying, Hamilton just didn't, continue to not have pace. Russell had the pace, but then Bind did. And then you get to the race and Russell see him makes up back to where realistically back to where he probably would have been anyway. He made it, it's like a really difficult afternoon to get what he should have just had anyway.

And Hamilton was in the in the boonies. Yeah, they didn't. Clearly that car was not not driving well for them to have so many incidents during the weekend. So the drivers, yeah, the drivers would do doing their best. But I'd like to say, with Hamilton, I think he just had had enough by the time we got to the race. I will give him a shout out for his start. The start was very good, yeah. Five cars in one corner is pretty good.

Made the rest of them look a bit rookieish. It was like an Alonzo at Zandvort style. I'll just go where all the spaces. You went to the right, I go left. Yeah. So shout out to him for that. But then obviously then a lap later, he was like, no, I don't know for that today. And Russell was very impressive during the race.

There's clearly something, I don't know whether it was the track or, or the car is just not, before the summer break, that car looked really damn good, was winning races. And then they put upgrades on. And it's never been the same since. Well,

it's such a sad car. But they're just sort of slipping back a bit to where they were at the start of the season in that, I know they had, at the time, had Aston Martin around them. Yeah. But around that territory, which, you know,

Hamilton and Russell, I think, are trying to overdrive it almost, which you can probably see with the mistakes they're making. But again, Toto. Just concentrate on 226, please. Yeah, I give up. I don't even know what to make of Mercedes

for the rest of this season because, you know, maybe they turn up at one of these tracks and it just so happens to suit the car and they can go out and try and get a win or a double podium or something like that. But it feels unlikely. Just based on what we saw at Austin, it's not a good car.

It's fundamentally not a good car. in comparison to Ferrari and McLaren and even Red Bull seem to have recovered a little bit of their pace. We know only Vestappan had the upgrades on the Red Bull this weekend, but I think Perez gets it next weekend in Mexico. So those three teams, they seem quite comfortably clear of Mercedes right now. And in turn, Mercedes still seem clear enough of everyone else. It just puts them in this sort of no man's land spot. I think the sprint was probably the most telling. race of where Mercedes are because obviously I'll get on to the race itself in a moment, but there were mitigating circumstances of Russell making a recovery, Hamilton not doing

nearly all of the race, whereas the sprint was for the most part just a straight up shootout, right? Shoot it. Shoot it. Good. So, yeah, and I think as soon as, again, Russell's pace just dropped off after lap eight of that sprint. They would, as you said earlier, they were just there, like Russell, just a gap filler.

Then Hamilton, somewhat in formation in the middle of nowhere, which is probably where they would have been if they had qualified normally for the actual race itself. George Russell's recovery was, look, two things can be true. His recovery was excellent. He shouldn't have had to do it. You know, it's his fault that he went off in qualifying and had to start from the pit lane. But the recovery was also great. I don't think there was anything more that he could have done

than what he actually did out there. In fact, the fact that he got up to sixth was pretty impressive. I remember, because he went very long, obviously, on that first thing, which was the right strategy call for sure. I remember seeing the gap between himself and Sergio Perez. I think it was about 16 seconds or so, and Russell still needed to pit. And I was thinking, yeah, I think he has a chance of getting this.

Yeah, we had that chat, didn't we? We like to think he could get back up to it. and you called it, Struggleway. And he shouldn't have done, but he... No, exactly. That's the damning thing for Sergio, right? He did. And ultimately, the way Mercedes played it,

Russell only had to make overtakes on Holkenberg and Perez in that final stint. Holkenberg, he dispatched fairly quickly, which makes sense, given the tire disparity. But then Perez, I think Russell did well. And of course, I mean, Russell's after five second penalty as well, let's not forget. Like, that's another thing that didn't go his way, should have really impacted his ability to get back up to P6.

And he did it anyway. I thought he was very impressive on the day. But of course, he shouldn't have had to make it so difficult for himself. Harry put it best. He just got to where he should have been anyway and made it harder for himself. Well, George. Well, George. Let's go a little bit further back in the points from where George Russell is to Liam

Lawson and Franco Colopinto because they finished ninth and 10th. Now, Liam Lawson, what are we calling this, a re-debut? We're not... Someone calling it a debut on the F-1 channel. No, grow up. No, it's got a debut. Yeah, grow up. He's done that.

Yeah. His first race of this season, at least, and he got all the way from 19th on the grid. Of course, that's not where he qualified. He qualified a little bit better than that, but he was taking an engine penalty. So he started right from the back, made up 10 positions. Franco Colopinto, out in Q1, made it all the way to SQ3 for the sprint,

but was not downed in Q1, but he also recovered to get a point. Do you make them both of their races? Yeah, let's start with Liam Lawson. He came back and he openly said, I'm feeling quite rusty, not really kind of in the groove yet, and we saw the battle he had with Fernando Alonkso,

which I know it was close, and Alonkso was a bit of a grumpy boy, but I think for a lesser driver, that really could have ended up ending up in the mud. They really could have both ending up in a world of pain, had they not been super aware of where each other were. And that's both alongside being brilliant, we were to win,

and I think Lawson, who pushed it, but I think it was on the edge, but it was all right. He drove that brilliantly. But then come to the main race, which, what qualifying,

I think they used him really well, because he got through to Q2, and they kind of say at that point, well, we're going to use you, Liam Lawson to not set a lap time, but you're going to just give Yuki a toe down all the straight line bits

to make him extra fast. And that tactically makes a lot of sense. It's not like whether he got through to Q3 or not over. Vyuki will be beneficial. So at least they tactically played it well, I thought. In the race, though, he was so clinical. He was so consistently quick.

Tireware didn't really seem to become a massive factor for him. And the way he got back up to P9 and beat so many kind of key cars around the team, they're obviously fighting close with hearts at the moment. And they've just lost that edge, two points in it now. But without Liam Lawson, across the whole weekend, the gap really could have being, I think, four or five, right? And between those teams, you say, oh, four or five, that's quite a lot. they might not score points

either of those scenes in the next three or four races there's every chance that doesn't happen so can't be against the Ashton Martins but the disparity here is between himself

and Yuki and we have given Yuki high praise this season we have really sung his praises but the fact that he starting in front of Liam Lawson and then on his own drops it pace wasn't there

he held up Perez brilliantly for the first bit of the race and after that he just went downhill so quickly that to see one of them finished what was it 16th

for one of them finished 9th that's it's just not good enough. And Yuki already is going to be on the back foot here for any conversation between getting the Red Bull seat or who should keep the RBC. This is a very bad start for Yuki Sanoda. I think it could have been forgiving if he didn't have the spin,

something just don't go your way. But dropping it like that all on your own is a real rookie error and not what you're going to see when the guy who has a grivenball season comes in and immediately scores two points. Colopinto, on the other hand, qualifies right next to Alex Albon. The difference between those two of them,

Collopinda didn't punk someone. Whether his car broke or not, Album's pace just wasn't there. Didn't out qualify Colopinto essentially at all weekend and no pace over his teammate. Colapinto delivered time and time again, one point for Williams, which in this day and age is a great hall for them.

I was really impressed again. And then he comes out with the best flying in Formula One after the race, which of course is, why did the French have to put new tires on? We're trying to save the planet, bro. And I respect every single part of that. He's just so full of Riz. What did you make of old Liam Lawson?

We spent a lot of time talking about expectations for him on the preview episode. Of course, your bold prediction was that he'd go ahead and beat Sergio Perez. But even without that, highly impressive weekend for him. It was very impressive. I think, yeah, like you say, he was a bit ring rusty in the sprint race. His defense with Alonso was borderline, in my view. Stern. Stern, yes.

Rough, yes. I think a lesser driver than Fernando Alonso probably would have taken them out. And I don't mean on purpose. I just mean. I think Alonso knew when to back out of that situation because he's been around the block 50 times. But yeah, during the race, he was highly impressive. Obviously, he had to take the penalty. Those three, Russell Colapinto and Lawson that did that hard tire until basically the end of the race and then onto the mediums.

But to make those, they had such good pace to make that work. they were very impressive so Lawson was very impressive considering that was his first race back Colopinto continues to impress and give James Vales quite a headache because yeah he was very impressive

in sprint qualifying because as I said got into SQ3 I know he ran out of talent in front of us in that last lap he went out in Q1 yes but so did Albon and they're in a Williams so that was pretty acceptable

but then made that strategy working during the race and again was very it'd be very easy when you're doing that strategy and again for the likes of lawton named colopinto it'd be very easy to just get caught up in battles you don't need to be in and they didn't they just yeah yeah when there were battles and he just before they thought them when they didn't they didn't because they're just what they need their overall race time to be the quickest it can be so yeah colopinto the ris king he rizzed his way up to some points smooth talked his way past people yeah get out the way please Hey, you're really pretty.

Do you mind moving to one side? Thank you very kindly. I'll go. Shall I thank, Franco? Liam Lawson. Start with him. Sorry. Liam Lawson.

Oh, God. Yeah, he was great. And I don't want, this is going to sound like me being harsh on both Lawson and Colopinto. The strategy was so much better to start from the hards and go to the mediums. Let's not say they didn't execute it well because they did. But there are, quite a few drivers who finished outside of the points that would have been looking at the end of

the race going, I wish we'd done that. Because I think they would have ultimately beaten them. You know, the likes of, I know Yuki Sunoda had the spin, but he also had R.B, their strategy is awful sometimes. Like, they really don't get it right for either driver a lot of the time. I think Sonoda was undone by, he qualified very well. And similar with Ghazley as well. Like, Gazley, he, qualified well, seemingly holding off the Hass quite well early on in the Grand Prix. They paid him too early and he's sort of stuck in the middle of nowhere and he can't make it back to the points either.

So I think Lawson and Colopinto both did very good jobs. But equally, their strategy did help them out a bit. But as you said, Harry, there is a skill to ensuring that if you're on that, if you're on that strategy, not getting into battles that you don't need to be getting into. you know even though Sergio Perez as an example was trying to get past Franco Colopinto it never felt like Colopinto

was unnecessarily defending to keep him behind like he was he was still taking the preferred line into corners and that's what you need to do when you're trying to execute that sort of strategy so I was very impressed by both a bit of an art to it isn't it that whole

what battle do you actually battle with what fight do you go for I think it's a bit of school of Fernando alongside you know, we're seeing it time and time again where he will put up the ultimate defense. And then there are other times where he would just cycle on over to the side of the track and kind of wave someone through and go, cool, I'll let, I'm going to do my own little racing. Thank you.

So it's a good skills to have. Wait like a lion. Or lie down like a slug. Sure. Let's go to our final break on this episode. On the other side, we've got a moment of the race. Back everyone. Moment of the race time.

We have got Discord submissions, but we, will first of all ask ourselves. What was our moment of the race? Sam. Sam, what was my moment of the race? I'm asking myself. For me, it was... It was the double overtake from Ockong on the Aster Marting and the R.B. car at the same time,

scrapping away they were and round the outside, which appropriate, so we saw M&M, goes O'Con. It's the best thing they've done all day. Other than still the fastest that point from essentially nobody. I thought it was great. It was going action. I've got to see it live.

Wasn't that in the sprint race? Yeah, we allow it. Oh, yeah, allow it. Allow it fam. I love it fan. Right. So I'm not sure which action he's watching. I'm so tired.

Just need to check in with the fam to see if they're allowing that. They are allowing it. Thank you, fam. Thank you, fam for allowing it. That is terrible banter. Have you got a moment of the race? We're pointing at a coffee machine. I quit.

Did it happen in the race? We're pointing at a coffee machine. My moment of the race was the Bahrain Grand Prix. Richard in 1993 European Croftrie. I'd like to be left alone now. Great start. I'd like to be left alone now. My era of the race, which you didn't realize at the time

because we didn't see or hear it, but realised afterwards, it is Lewis Hamilton's Team Radio before the race starts where he just says, this is so far down, so far Batman. So far Batman. Like, what does he want the response to be? Yeah, Lewis, you were slow yesterday.

It is. That's how great position. She's worked so good, though. And that then coupled with the shot of them leaving the grid, and he's just moving at like five miles an hour. And we joked about this, but I'm convinced he was just like, Bono, I don't want to do it. Don't maybe do it.

Like a kid got away to go to school. Like, come on, don't take me a school. Let me do it. Oh, my moment of the race, I was going to go with the Norris and Vestappan battle that happened just in front of us, because that was entertaining. It really was.

But we've already discussed it, I'll offer up something far less serious, the national anthem to start. It's just so patriotic. Love it. You do it so well, America. Yeah. I could actually hear a lot of it, but it was great. Turn your speakers up, America. Whilst America is turning up its speakers,

shall we listen to some Discord submissions? Yes, let's do that. First, firstly, thank you everyone for submitting. I know we're a day late with this, but if you come at us, we will name and shame you. But first up is Brown 30, who we met at the live. show on Thursday excellent man and he was also the track so this I assume he's coming trackside hey guys brown 30 for live from Coda awesome race at moment of the race for

Stappan Norris had an epic battle I always have to give it up to Calapinto who was really scrappy and got into the points and it looks like Alex Albon caved into my under press the submission because he was nowhere to be found join the discord keep breaking late Thank you, Brown 30. Thank you. Cronenberg is next. Hey, it's Cronenberg, mom, another race. Oh, so much to choose from.

What a race, honestly. Got to go, though, with that first corner. What an exciting opening. And then the battle at the end was just the cherry on top of it all. Side note, I don't know if you guys caught this, but on F1 TV, Will Bucks would sort of calling Besey cash a barbie Minarbi

So I thought of you guys Anyways keep regular late Stolen that I read Zadrake That's our joke Copyright us Thank you for that Grenenberg

We should F one another Which is an excellent name Fantastic I'm Hey you guys Hope your day is going well Mine is not going well It's very bad

Freak and hate my life You have no idea Anyways Just wanted to Congratulate Yuki on really capitalizing a bad strategy call. Just like Gam Gam Gamem used to say, the best thing you can do is complain about it openly,

whip a Ui in the track and claim a five-second penalty. Go, Gabab. Noise. Nice. Pretty sure, Liam, just lay down the law, son. Nice. God, what a stupid pun. I'm not going to disagree with that.

Are you well? Yes, I mean, actual spoiler alert, we listened to just that submission last night whilst we were having a few beers. Are you well? Are you well? Check in. Check in.

Give us a message. You're all right. Are you okay? Thank you for that. And we enjoyed laying down the law. Excellent work. Next up is papaya rules. No, it's not.

Next up is... Next up is... Popa rules now. Thank you. That was worth it. Papaya rules. Ben from Idaho with my... moment of the race what a race moment of the race has to go to hamilton for just absolutely sending

it into the gravel he said he was looking forward to next weekend and he clearly wanted to get this race done as quickly as possible loves mexico also a big shout out to leum lawson and george russell for sending it from the back of the grid and just having fantastic races getting back up into the points also tons of mcclaren what are you doing moments so great race Yeah, we didn't really hear. There are quite a few team radio messages. I'd like to go through them. The Germany situation.

What is the Germany situation? I don't know what that is. I don't know what it is either, but I saw on Twitter yesterday. They were referencing the Germany situation. Yeah, I have no idea what that refers to. Someone said, did they mean the war? The Second World War? Yeah.

We've probably had the Second World War more recently than a German Grand Prix. Because when was the last sign that they were at the German Grand Prix and there was a German situation? 2020. Referencing a 2005 German Grand Prix. I'm just using my moment with the race idea. Oh, no, that was, yeah, that would be European, wasn't it, with Reikon. Norris's tire flies off, Kim Rikkenet style.

I've got that banter. No idea. Next up is Chuck Boy Energy. Moment of the race. This is Stephen. First time, long time. A moment of the race is Charles Lecler, winning. I don't ever want to hear anybody say,

did they fire the wrong guy? No, no, they didn't. My boys on top were winning the World Championship. Let's go. Oh, wow. I'm glad I agree with my logic. Chuck Boy, Englishy, by the way, is a great name. First time, long time.

Long time. Long time. Thank you for that. Next up is Mojo Dojo, Kastahouse. We love it. Great name. All the late breakers, Mojo-OJakasa House here.

My moment of the race has to be the battle between Max and Lando. That really kept me on my toes. It was amazing to watch them race, even though the outcome wasn't what we expected. Also, congrats to Charles. I pretty much like being a smog and getting closer to the championship.

I hope you guys enjoy Austin. I love you guys. Keep breaking late. Bye. We love you too, Thanks, Mike. Doja Casas a house. Love you.

Nick the Quick is next. Heidfeld. What's up, Blake Breakers? It's Nick the quick moment of the race submission. What an awesome battle between Max and Lando. That was just sheer brilliance from both of them. But Max wins out in the end. If George doesn't put in the law,

think Max is on pole probably still wins the race because as far as have to battle each other. But neither here nor there. Brilliant Grand Prix. Great moment of the race. Extend the points lead. Love it. Mexico is stepping.

Okay. Finally, Nando's Big Green Tractor. Hey, y'all. It is Rosie from Texas, aka Nando's Big Green Tractor. And my moment of the race is absolutely Georgie Russ. Fricking bring in that car from where he started halfway to Louisiana to AP6 finish.

It is ridiculous. He saved the day for Mercedes when it looked like All Hope was lost and they weren't going to see points to save their lives today. And yet George Russell somehow made it happen. And I'm not sure what I'm happier about him finishing P6 or Carlos making it on the podium because I love them both so much. Thank you everyone for submitting.

Absolutely. Very much appreciated. Shall we? Shall we? Get us out of it. Yes, it's me, shall. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love the beans.

I love the beans. What are there again? There are whole brand chili beans. no beans actually in there. It says no beans on the ting. Anyway, sorry. Thank you, F on Swifty for those. Yeah, that's great.

We're going to make your pie that you suggested very soon. Can we take beans home? There's no beans in there. It says on the thing, no beans. Yeah, but can we take Tinge goods home? I don't know.

Can we take beans from even Steve? Yes. You've got to see. Customs are like, what beans legend? That is a power rankings reference, which is coming up next actually so that leads me very nicely when the boys giggle away uh joining in the description

it helps us out so much um and you'll get to see power ragged after every single race discord available as well social media later breaking up on this is on youtube where you can see the what being's legend down in the corner here much love to all of you've had a great timing and i'm saying i've been talking oh and i've been hurried i remember keep breaking late This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.