The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2025 Austrian GP Race Review

Episode Date: June 29, 2025

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This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking, today reviewing the Austrian GP 1 by Lando Norris in a McLaren 1-2, a Ferrari on the podium as well, Charles LeCler in 3rd. that was a bit spicy, wouldn't it, Sam? I thoroughly enjoyed that.

It's hot, hot, hot across all of Europe. And you think, surely it's not going to get any spicier, and it bliming did. What a race we had, what a battle between the Maclare and duo. Lots of fun up and down the grid as well. You know, it really looked like there was lots of action for all places, which was great fun. We had spings. We had crashes. We had battles on the track.

It was Austria just delivers, and we'll get into it in more detail another time. But we're getting out of Blooming's 16 years of the thing. which is fantastic as well, extended to 2041. Harry, you're going to be in your 40s when we finished that contract. How did you find it? Mid-40s is what I worked out this morning, and that is disgusting. But I'm happy that we are going back here for many, many years, because Austria does always deliver.

It wasn't a classic, but it was a good race. It was a good race, good solid race. It's a solid race, that is? Yeah, meaty. So, yeah, I'm glad we're going back. Always love Austria. Well, yes, like you say, we've got plenty more years of it. But at least for today's review, moment of the race coming up a little bit later on,

driver of the day, worst driver of the day. We've got battling throughout the midfield, as Sam has already referenced, plenty to get into there. Let's start out front, though. The two McLaren drivers, Lando Norris, defeating Oscar Piastri, converting his pole position, wasn't plain sailing. Quite a few near misses, particularly in the first. first stint. So we'll start from Norris's point of view, Sam. How impressed were you with his

performance and the ability to defeat his teammate? First 20 laps, I was worried. I must admit, the gap was far smaller than I expected. P. Astri was doing a brilliant job at staying within DRS range. I thought, there's no way that these tires should be surviving. Like, he should not be this close to Norris for this many laps. You think, is it a lack of pace from Norris's point of view? Is Piaastri just able to do everything but get that final move done in the DRS, so which would be quite uncharacteristic of Piastri. But Norris, I think, executing a really clever, sensible, well-run race. I think he did a brilliant job at managing everything as he went through,

especially in the latter stages as we built towards traffic. Traffic became a real part of this battle, it became a real part of the story. And I do think that we've seen it in the past where traffic can make or break a battle for a race wing. And there were moments where it affected both driver really. heavily. You know, the gap was about 6.4 seconds after the final pit stop round.

And you think, uh-oh, Piastri's like this one go too long. The traffic makes an impact. The gap suddenly down to three seconds. It's then down a two seconds. It's then down on 1.7 seconds. You think, ah, okay, it's now going back the other way. But then the traffic swings again. Regardless of all that going on, Norris, in a very high-pressure scenario,

well, if we've seen him make really poor mistakes historically, has done a really brilliant job at holding off Oscar Piastri, who I think did pretty much everything he could have done. There was one moment that I do think he should have gone for a move, and instead he held back to try and play it clever, play it smart. I think that may be backfired on him. But Norris is a good job defending, always considered, always clean, put the car in the right place wherever it needed to be, got the exits out of the corner that he needed to get the exits for.

This was a really, really brilliant drive from Lando Norris, and I deserve a victory for him. Harry, I was trying to think my way through Lando Norris' catalogue of victories to this point. and I'm happy to be corrected, but this feels like maybe the first win Lando Norris has taken where it hasn't necessarily been, he's been the fastest driver,

he's kind of just plain sailing out front. This felt like one where he had to hold his nerve, and he did. Yeah, he had to work for this. And as I was watching this, I was thinking, these are all the lessons that he learned from this race last year.

Like he spent a good time watching Max Verstap and defend from himself. as in from Landon Norris, not Verstappen just defending from himself, although it could happen. But, yeah, he was superb. His defence was superb, even when Piastri, so much so that Piastri had to go for that rash move

just before they boxed. And I assume that was because he knew that Norris was about to come in and wanted to be the first driver, so he'd got preference. So, yeah, I was super impressed by this. He held his nerve. There was only one, one error

I think into the final corner which we saw a replay of and obviously that's when Piastri got the closest I think because of that but for the rest of it he held his nerve when yeah Piastri was for the first 20 laps

behind him the entire way so yeah like Samson I was super impressed with how Norris handled that and then from there then from there it was kind of done I know Piastri went for the offset Delta and that many could come back at him towards the end of the race and there was lap traffic.

But again, Norris held his nerve could have easily made mistakes and got caught up in traffic as Piastri actually did with Colopinto, although I'm not going to blame Piastri for that one. But yeah, this was exactly the race Lando Norris needed. I think whether or not McLaren

had the pace to win, which he obviously did by far away the quickest car today, I think he needed that race versus Piastri off the back of Canada, no matter whether it was for a win or for a second or for fifth. I think it was just super important and it will help build momentum

into Home GP week for Lando. So yeah, very impressed by him today. Yeah, so was I. And from a pace perspective, you know, that was very good and that's not the first time we've seen that from him. But we've seen these sorts of races where let's say Monaco this year

or Abu Dhabi last year where Lando Norris has, he's just been the quickest. driver and he was able to, you know, following was a bit difficult at both of those races and he's able to control things. I think this was a better win for him right now than what one of those wins would have been. I think this type of victory should give him a lot of confidence that he can go ahead and do something like that again, because as you say, he was facing pretty much constant pressure for 20 laps of this Grand Prix. Even when Oscar Piastri isn't quite in a position to

overtake, there's still pressure because Norris knows one small error coming out of turn one or the final corner, that is going to give Piastri an opportunity to overtake. Piastri was consistently within that DRS. And as you said, Terry, like the way in which he defended, I don't think we get that from Norris this time last year. I think he has learned some lessons from his previous battles here versus Max Verstappen. The one where Piastri was closest and actually did very briefly get an overtake done, the way in which Norris maximise the angle of that turn three, like, he just goes as far

to the left-down side of that corner as he possibly can, almost giving up the position temporarily, knowing that he's going to have that slingshot to get the opportunity to re-overtake. That was clever. That was good wheel, as the kids might say. Yeah, and thanks, man. Nice. That was great. And, you know, that gave him the opportunity to re-overtake.

Again, I'm not sure we get that from Norris in races and years past. So excellent work from him. The championship advantage is 15 points. That's nothing with, what, over a dozen races to go in the year. So he's in a good spot. From Oscar Piastri's perspective, Sam, does he take this as a good result? He's still on the podium. He's still in second place.

and it's only seven points he's lost to his teammate. Where does it land for him? Yeah, five, six races ago, I think he would have taken this as a good result. I think he would have looked at this and gone less than two seconds away from my teammate. You know, we're still new to the season here. I've done well. I've done well to finish his second place.

But I think we're seeing a whole new different Oscar Piastro. We saw in qualifying how frustrated he was with what happened with the yellow flag, with the fact that he didn't get a banker in that probably should have seen him sitting on the front row. he did a really good job of getting past the Clare super early in this Grand Prix that meant he got an immediate run at his team mate but there were a couple of instances where usually we don't critique him for this I think he should have got the move done the one where he did get past

Landon Morris once I think it was brilliant the way Landing Ours Defended Oscar Piastri should have invented something it should have allowed him to get that job done and then there was another chance when Landing Norris came out in the final two calls he rang to the gravel both times going on to the start finish straight and it allowed Oscar Piasri to close up but two about a tent going into the first corner. He should have got that move, slam shut, done,

defend, you go and have a defensive move. And he shows purposely to hold off. And that actually allowed Nando Norris to have another go at being in front again and the opportunity disappeared. So I think frustratingly for Oscar here, he'll come away from this disappointed. And I don't blame him. I really don't blame him.

When you're that close to being a race winner and you've been that good throughout this season, he should be disappointed. He should be a little bit frustrated that his teammates got the better of here because time after time, we've seen that Piuscari can be the better of the two drivers. And almost every turn, it feels like he was dealt, not the worst

hand, almost he shows the worst hand, because I also think that the Delta call was the wrong call to stay out later, to lose time after being undercut by Landon Norris to come out five, six seconds back with a slightly poor pit stop, admittedly. I think that was the wrong call. I think it gave him too much to do.

Then he had to deal with Colopinto, not his fault, but that set him back even further. You're just opening up yourself to more and more problems. I do think that Piastri will probably come away from this from being a little bit disappointed in the fact that despite starting behind Norris, he had ample opportunity to get in front of him and win this race, and he didn't, which is quite uncharacteristic for him. Harry, where do you think this race could have gone differently for Oscar Piastri? Was it the inability to get the overtake done on the first stint? Was it the time that he lost after the pit stop where it seemed like that gap was stable at around five, six seconds for a little while?

where do you think this could have gone differently? Yeah, I think around that lap 20, 21 points. So when he didn't get the move done the first time, he then has a sort of last minute go before Norris boxes. It doesn't pay off. He loses time. He also gets a flat spot.

I'm with Sam. I get the logic of going for the sort of delta and try to attack later on. But he lost more, they were like, do you want a one and a half second delta or four? And he was like a four. And he came out with a six. So it didn't pay off. I know he had a slow stop.

But he also had that flat spot. And I think even he was saying, I don't think I could show you any pace now because I've ruined that right front tire with the, with the overtake attempt. So yeah, I think that you could point that it went wrong. They made the point in Sky commentary after the race. The Colabinto incident did that cost him a bit of time. versus the way he ended up at the end of the race and arguably potentially, yeah, but that's just unlucky.

But for the most part, I don't think there's many things you can point to apart from that strategy call. I, we have praised Oscar Piaastri immensely for just rocking up and getting moves done. And I know it was, it's a difficult one, Austria, not difficult to overtake,

but it's difficult because there's so many DRS zones. I think he'll look back at the opportunity when Norris went wide out of the final corner and he didn't nail him there because that was the best opportunity and I think he might kick himself for that one. It's hard to know. I think pace-wise, they were very similar. It probably looked like Piastri was quicker

because he was just sat and beat like he'd get dragged along so easily. I mean, look at Alonzo. He just got dragged along by Liam Lawson-orice. So I think you did that for extra top speed. We could go this quick? He's like, whoa. Whoa, what's me? But yeah, but that proves the point.

I think that may be astry, maybe not look quick on any scene, but I think it certainly helped his pace. So, yeah, I don't think he could be too harsh. I think, you know, at one point, but for some points in the race, it could have been worse, you know, if the move had gone wrong, he lost his front wing, etc.

Yeah, I think he could be, it'll be okay. It's a long season, and we've seen this swing backwards and forwards between Norris and Piastri a lot. So I don't think he'll be overly annoyed. The qualifying yesterday in the end didn't make a difference because he was P2 by turn one. Right start.

Yeah, it was a very good start. And he played that beautifully with obviously Lickler and pinched on the inside. So I don't think it's too much that Piastri can be annoyed at. He gave it a good guy. I think it's probably just the strategy goal and maybe not nailing that the best attempt he had, not nailing that the first time. But as we said, Norris played it beautifully.

So hard one to criticise it for. Yeah, I think this was probably lost in two locations. Like the first one was that opportunity into term one. I think he should have gone for that. And I understand the logic of trying to wait behind. But there is an opportunity there, possibly. If he gets the overtake done and he doesn't have a great exit because he's the one on the inside trying to get that overtake done,

If Lando Norris re-overtakes him before you get to turn three, suddenly Piastri has the DRS for the next rate after that, and he has an opportunity into turn four. So it might have actually, like if you work the corners back, it might have been an advantage to make that move there and then. I think the other place where this was lost was the flat spot. Because whilst I kind of agree with you on the 1.5 versus 4 debate and what you're playing with a delta,

I actually think the right call was going for a bigger delta if he didn't get that flat spot. Because if he didn't get that flat spot, I'm pretty convinced that he would have been able to keep that gap to something like four seconds rather than six that ended up being. And maybe McLaren can actually go a few laps longer. They ended up creating, I think, about five laps or so between the two drivers for that middle stint. I think they had, if, again, if he doesn't get that flat spot, I think they have the opportunity to push that even for. further. We saw that Liam Lawson was able to go 33 laps and Alonzo, I think, was pretty much exactly the same, maybe one or two more. He could have gone a little bit longer, I think, if he didn't get that flat spot. So that really did hurt him, I think, in the overall, I don't

know, the overall race. One thing I wanted to ask you, Sam, is a thought I had throughout the end part of this race. We saw that Bortoletto was closing up quite significantly on Alonzo and Lawson, which We'll get into a little bit later on, but that was a two-stop race versus a one-stop race, very late on sort of strategies converging. Oscar Piastri stops. I think it was lap 24 for the hard compound tire, which means he would have needed to have gone 46 laps on the hard tire to go to the end of the race. Given the Ferraris were completely out of the question and everyone else was as well,

was there a case for Piastri around like 50-51 when Lando Norris decides to go into the pits? Is there a case for him to say, I'll try one stop? What have got to lose? Yeah, I think Piastri would have believed that he could have got the move down on track with that two-stop that they were both on. And I love that he has that belief. And I do think that had the flat spot not gone wrong, had that time that extending meant that Every time he boxed, he came out behind traffic, where Landon and Norris came out in front of traffic.

And all of this just costs you a little bit and a little bit and a little bit. And I think if the Domino's don't fall that way at the start of the Grand Prix, I think Piastri believes on a two-stop that matches Norris, he's got the ability to get past Norris and win this Grand Prix. It's not like he is Max Verstappen, should we say, or Charlotte. If Charlotte Clare was within two seconds of McLaren's for the first 20 laps and LeCler goes, we haven't got the outright pace here. but I'm kind of just clinging on. I'm going to go another 10 laps. I'm going to do a one stop. I would have really commended the effort.

I really would have thought, yeah, full outside the box, no one behind you. Hamwinson's 10 seconds back. You've got nothing to lose here. Give it a go. Give it a go. I think Piastri would have been gobbled up.

I think Landon Norris would have pitted with 20, 23 laps ago. And I think we saw the difference between Piastri after the flat spot and Norris and his fresh tires. That was a second a lap at one point. That's how much. he lost so quickly. I think if the tyres were 40 laps old and Norris is on new tires,

he's getting eating up in eight, nine laps. So you saw the difference between Portoletto and the Aston Martin, right? The Salba and that Aston Martin are particularly different in pace. I think a fresh set on one McLaurant and a 40 lap old set on another, the difference there is going to be seconds because we go just how quick that McLaren is when it's at the peak of its powers. So I loved the ambition in the way some people tried the one-stop. and we did see it work with some.

I thought Lawson did a brilliant job at making that one-stop work. And I also did a great job and kind of clinging onto his coattails and trying to ride that wave that the racing ball was pulling along. A fair play to them. They did a great job.

I think it's a very different story up front where you need to be on your toes, trying to make the decision that is proactive. And I do think that Piastri would have lost by a bigger gap had he one-stop. Any merit to a one-stop, Harry? I don't think it would have paid off.

I think we saw with the likes of Lawson and Alonzo it obviously paid off for Lawson Alonzo not that he lost that's a Bortoletto at the end but I think the two stop was clearly the quicker strategy so

I don't know I can see why they might have tried to roll the dice but given the how close Piastrian Norris were pace-wise I think it would have been I'm with Sam I think the I think Norris gets past him and probably puts a bigger gap over him in the end.

Who knows? I guess you can argue it's worth the try. It's worth the gamble because you don't know what will happen. And not that it's early in the season anymore, but maybe a few races down the line. If that is the case, again, Piastri plays, Piastri and his side of the garage play that card. But I can understand today why they didn't. The person who I'd like to have seen you at one stop was Lewis Hamilton.

Fry wouldn't they? No, Ferrari. We're not having it, were they? Can I, what size is going to get? Get in the box, Lewis. Get in the box. I would have kept him out. He had nothing to lose.

He was going to finish behind the Claire. Anyway, the gap behind was, what, 27, 28 seconds, even after, like, the pit stop routing really happened. They obliterated Russell, and the Sages couldn't keep up in the heat. I kept him out there on the hard. I kept him out there on the hard, because if, can I catch him, you say, move out the way, please, Lewis. He's caught you at this point.

I kept him out there, just to see if it worked. I think I would have made the pit stop. up just because if they were going for a win, I would agree. But because they were going for a podium and Hamilton's had enough of them, Lecler's had enough of them, I think they had the opportunity to lock up. Good points over Mercedes and Red Bull. I think I'd have played it safe and just gone. We'll finish third and fourth.

We don't care which way round. We don't want to risk any weird tire blowing up or anything like that. I think I probably would have gone with what Ferrari did. But it would have been interesting to see how it played out. Before we go to our first break, quick opportunity to review bold predictions. We're out of time, no, we're not. We've got so much time, Meg. So infinite time, actually.

It's our show. My sound board's telling me we've got to go to break. It doesn't talk like that. We need to review it right now. I promise you that screen is telling me. It's telling you can play a jingle, Ben. We don't even play it even do this bit, but you get the point. No.

Lift music. I've been trying to drag on the bowl prediction bit as long as possible. All right. Harry, what was your bold prediction? Max Verstappen would have a collision with another driver this weekend. Oh, he did. I'm not sure that was... Did he have a collision with another driver?

I mean, I would probably phrase it that Kimmy Antonelli had a collision with Max Verstaffan, but sure he had contact with another car. There you go, he had a collision with another driver. I'm taking the point. I thought you said that the McLaren's were going to hit each other, but okay. No, I said Vestappen. Oh, fair. Well, well done.

Thanks, Kimmy. Yes, thank you very much, Kimmy Antonelli. Which means Harry is on the board for bold predictions this year, which would mean we're at a 1-1-1 tie. Apart from Sam's got another one right. After qualifying eighth, your prediction of Gabriel Bortoletto finishing in the top eight looked all right. It's exactly where he finished.

I was a little bit worried, actually, at the start. Until turn three happened, the day it was fine. But I was like, oh, he's going on. in turn. It's got eight to play Seymour by the third corner. This is worrying, but he did a great job, perform well. I think it's the first I've ever called a full sweep. I got poll one, two, three, and the bowl prediction correct as well. So very pleased. Good effort, lad. I... Do I get anything else? No, no, you don't. I said that Oliver Beerman was going to finish inside the top seven. He finished 11th, which is not...

It's kind of rhymed between seven. Yeah. And if there was any way of trying to get a point from that, I would take it, but I'm not even going to try it. One rhymes a lot with Nung. Yeah. The logic was that he would have and Hasse would have pretty good race pace. I thought they did have all right race pace. They just started too far behind. Yeah.

O'Con was just also a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah, O'Con had the better of him today, for sure. Right, let's take our first break on this episode. On the other side, Ferrari's third and fourth place finish. Welcome back, everyone. P3, P4. for Ferrari. So very much the second best constructor on the day with Red Bull not able to score

any points whatsoever and Mercedes scoring just 10 with a fifth place for George Russell. So 27 from LeCler's 15 and Hamilton's 12. It matches Hamilton's best race result so far for Ferrari this season, of course, excluding the sprint win that he had in China. How did you evaluate their day, Sam? Was it good for them? Or are you? you looking at that gap to the McLaren duo and going, no, no. My favourite thing about this result for Ferrari is that they've actually just put out an Instagram post of Lewis Hamilton with the caption,

scoring the most points today in Austria. He has not, in any sense of the word, scored the most points, less than LeCler. Ferrari's called less than McLaren. I don't understand where they've got this caption from. The most of what? I don't know. He hasn't beat his previous best result either in a Ferrari.

so I'm quite confused at that caption. So are they? Taking away the most points from Austria. What are you talking about Ferrari? What does that mean? You can't just say McLaren don't exist. That doesn't know how it works. We've won.

Or his teammate. Excellent one-two finish today for Ferrari. This is how Lewis Hamilton has the most wings in Formula One. He never won. Makers keep telling him he did. I love that. McLaren erasure, but go on. Okay, anyway, so that really made me laugh.

No, I think this is good signs for Ferrari. I still think it's a minor step forward in a very big race. And McLaren surely felt more dominant here than we've seen them at any point so far this season. It felt like they were lapping pretty much the, or up to seventh. They were pretty much lapping. Here in Miami. Yeah, those two. Yeah.

It was very dominant display from McLaren. But also, well done to Ferrari for clearly being the second best car today. It feels like pretty much for the first time all season. They were outright the second fastest car. For Stapin, of course, he'd get the chance to show himself. The second Red Bull seat is just a big parlor poop. And that's getting excited to wipe himself out on Max for Stappen as Red Bulls only hopes. And the Mercedes is just not going against that hot.

I mean, 50 degree track temperatures today, we've called them a bit of a jack-upil trades. We've said they've improved. But that would have driving around in a furnace. Only Ferrari can survive such hell. And they did a good job at doing so. I thought what was really integral to the Grand Prix was the way that Hamilton fought Russell

in the first couple of laps. I thought that made a real difference into how his race played out. Of course, not the best start. Russell gets pretty much in front of him, but he immediately fights back. Really, really good will-to-wheel-battle goes around the outside of him,

really, really impressed with how those two managed to fight each other. Just everyone take note of that. You see how they went side by side and didn't run each other off the road or didn't hit each other? That's really good racing. That, enjoyed that a lot.

More of that, please. Because if you looked at the gap after the second pit stop between Hamilton and Russell, like I said earlier, I think it was over 20 seconds. If Hamilton had been stuck behind Russell and the tyres are worn, the dirty air are kicked in, there's a real chance that the voyage between McCleur and Hamilton with Russell stuck in the middle of it could have been over a pit stop today. I think Hamilton looks okay being what, eight, nine seconds behind the Clare over a full race course there. It's not the end of the world. It's pretty solid for them to be third and fourth, both cars, clear of everyone else. but because of that battle, it could have been so drastically the other way. He could have been getting a world of hate.

And we've seen it with Lewis Hamilton before where he's had a bit of a gnaff start or something that something's going to wrong where he's been caught up in something. He just gets stuck. He just cannot get through some of the traffic around him. And Russell's a tough customer to get past. So I think that was really important for him, for Ferrari. And I think not come away, apparently thinking that they scored the most points in the Grand Prix, quite happy with it.

But it's a good step forward. It's a small step forward, but it is a step forward. Now, don't start developing the car to win the championship this year, Ferrari, because you've got a podium in the fourth place. Focus on next year, accept that you do all right, move on swiftly, because I fear that maybe you're downful. Counterpoint. They were first and second here.

They won. They won. All right. My question to you, Harry, was going to be, should they be happy about this? But I feel like they've answered their own question with, yeah, we're delighted. They're delighted. Yeah. Yeah.

I look they'll take third and fourth or first and second whatever they want to call it but I am actually unsure whether they were they've made the step forward I'm going to be optimistic and lean towards yes but they were in a race where McLaren were dominant and Mercedes were crap and Max Verstappen wasn't in it it's a fair point yes were they that good I don't actually know so I I think the the upgrades have worked somewhat if they did bring any upgrades in the end, who knows. But, yeah, I would like to reserve a little bit of judgment

until we get to Silverstone next week and I guess Spar as well. But, yeah, the loneliest of races, maybe that's why they thought they won because they didn't see anyone apart from themselves all afternoon. So, yeah, kind of tricky one to judge from my side because if it was a little bit less, you've got to be in it to win it, and Mercedes had their own troubles. Anthony was out on lap one as well.

Russell was clearly struggling with his ties. But, yeah, hard to know if it had been cooler and Max Verstappen was in it, where they actually would have ended up. I'd hazard, I guess, similar places, but maybe Vastappen is challenging Lickler or Hamilton. Unsure, unsure, but they'll take the points away for sure, but it's kind of a bit of no-man's land for them today,

which it is hard for them to judge what is worth pursuing, I guess, from this, because do you keep what you're going for here? Do you keep trying to develop this car in the hope that you might catch McLaren? I don't think it's worth it. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see when we get to Silverston. But take the W, take the first and second or third and fourth. It's just a V though, because it's half a win.

It's just one podium in a fourth place. I mean, after this, they're beating Mercedes, right? They're second in the constructor scale. Yeah, my on-the-fly maths has them a point ahead. I believe they are 210 to Mercedes-29. Yeah. You better not be celebrating this Ferrari because it's not that great. Sure, third and fourth is all right.

But as you said, Harry, what did they actually beat? Like, they beat Vastappen and Antonelli that were out after three quarters. George Russell and the Mercedes that just as soon as they see a two in front of another number for degrees Celsius, they go, nope, don't want to do that. And then you've got Sonoda hitting Colapinto. So I'm not quite sure what they've really accomplished outside of being 20 seconds behind the race leader in the case of Shao Leclair and about 30 seconds behind in the case of Lewis Hamilton. Bear in mind, both McLaren's were probably slow, slower than they could have been towards the end with the amount of traffic and trying to get ahead of one another. This was fairly obviously McLaren's day.

It's not even as if LeCler was able to stick behind the McLaren's for like a lap or two, right? It's not like he was able to keep hold of the DRS just to help. As soon as like the race started or the safety car came in, McLarence just absolutely went off. There was no chance for them whatsoever. And of course, as well, one of the things that they are looking to achieve is less lift and coasts throughout a Grand Prix with these upgrades. What do we hear about halfway through this race?

They're still needing to lift and coasts because they're worried about potentially the skip block. They beat their rivals, good for them. They're ahead of Mercedes. They have a good chance for finishing second in this championship. but this is Ferrari. We should expect more from Ferrari. We want them to be competing for championships as they were last season,

but they are nowhere near McClaren, no one in. The worst part about this for Ferrari is that if you look at the driver's standings, neither of their drivers are in the top four. It tells you that if Antigali wasn't a rookie, if the Red Bull's second seat was even remotely capable of being competitive, they would not be there. The Stapagos scored pretty much every single point

that Red Bull have. And the gap between George Russell and Kimi Antingelli is almost 100 points now. It's like 85, 90 points between them. So it tells you that Ferrari are there simply through the fact that they have two competent and normal drivers that can get a job done. And the Ferrari itself, maybe not that quick. I agree with you. I also think it's hilarious that you've just called LeClaire and Hamilton, competent and normal. In this scenario, they are.

Sure. Oh, Harry, mate, Mercedes. They just melted, didn't they? Like a flake on a hot summer's day. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, maybe that's why Antonelli did it. Turn three. I just, I can't be bothered.

No. I mean, Russell gave it a good go to have some sort of battle with a frontrunner, where this is very clean, as you said, some, very clean battle with Hamilton on the opening lap, gave it a good go, but then after that, I don't think we saw him again for the rest of the afternoon. Yeah, I think they knew they were going to struggle here, and then they did.

I think, to be honest, was he going to walk away with anything worse? I think there is a risk, to be honest. I'm not going to say he did a great job to finish where he did, but I think he could have easily got frustrated and actually made things worse for himself, and he didn't. So I'll give Russell that. He was only a few seconds clear of Bortoletto at one point. Yeah.

One lot. So I think, yeah, he probably managed it the best he could, but that Mercedes, I don't understand, because it was hot in Canada, right? With softer tires! It was really hot. So that is an odd one. Maybe it's the corners, because different type of corners at Montreal than there is in Austria, much longer, higher speed corners here. So that is the weak point if it's hot, but yeah, quite odd how the difference a couple of weeks makes between two tracks and Mercedes.

They will be praying that it is a cool, cool summer's day here in the UK when we get to Silverstone because they need it to be cool. They really do. It's just mystifying because of how well they did at Canada. And I have to assume it's something to do with the track surface because, again, there were. softer tires in the range when we went to Canada compared to here. Not all that much, but we were using the C6 tire in qualifying in Canada. We only went to the C5 here. And it wasn't cold in Canada last time out.

I appreciate it did warm up as the weekend went on here, which didn't help them whatsoever. But it just completely sapped away any competitiveness they had. As mentioned, like, he is at one point a few seconds, of Bortoleto, who did a great job. If one of those midfield teams has an absolutely excellent day, Russell's vulnerable. He was vulnerable as it was, but even more vulnerable. So not a good one.

Antonelli's the real winner here from not having to do that race. Sam, any further thoughts on Merck? Boy, David Melton. And that's what I'm going to say. They just can work it out, do they? They've got to work it out. For this season, they can write it off, but they need to hope that for the new regulations,

if you've been studying climate recently, it's only getting hotter. So, yeah, they'll make sure that they can survive these hot climates because I think it will get wearing a heat wave here in the UK at the moment. And for the rest of the world, that's like a warm, tepid day.

And you all just kind of go out in a jumper. But we are going to apparently get cooler by Silverstone weekend. So they might be all right. But you can't go into an F1 season, going to race days and going, we might be all right if it's a bit breezy and hopefully we get a bit lucky.

with the cloud cover. They've got to build a car that could survive, you know, 80% of the races rather than unlucky 20%. Yeah, he'd be melting. I think a good job from Russell to end up finishing fifth because that car was struggling to go. McClaren and everyone else absolutely quaking thinking about Vegas later this year. No chance at all. Toto's sale with this massive gloves already. Can't wait. Custom made. Custom made gigantic gloves. It's got a half of a mitt on each finger. It's time for driver of the day. The verdict is in.

You're the driver of the day. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. Driver of the day. Harry, who have you got? I'm going to go real obvious. Lando Norris, driver of the day. Superb win.

The more I think about it, you could even say his best, his best yet. I know clearly wasn't the most dominant, but I don't know whether that makes it your best ever. I think this is certainly in contention for his best ever. So, yeah, I'm first, so I'm going to say Norris, the obvious one. I'm not going to go with Norris this time out instead. Oh, no. Two else.

It's a YouTube exclusive joke. Yes. It's barely a joke. Liam Lawson, what a great drive from him. He had Fernando Alonzo half a second behind him for what felt like four days, but he held him off every single time. Had to do a one stop. They were one of the teams that very cleverly decided we're only going to bring one set of mediums and one set of hard tires going into this race, which given how hot it was, not the ultimate strat. That's basically led him onto a one-stop strategy. But he nailed it. Like his tire manager,

was far better than a lot of drivers around. And sixth place at eight points deserves the lot. Well played. Sam. I'll keep it very to go for something different because I agree completely with both of your options, but I'll go Gabby more Toledo. The toaster was functioning well in the heat

and it produced a double pop two slices of toast. Can I just be clear to new listeners. The toaster is the car, not Boatum. Yes. Just so we're aware, we call the Salba a toaster because that's how crap it is most of the time. it'll be a toaster. But we might have to stop calling it a toaster at this point because it might have been

okay. We shall come up with a new appliance for our peeing who are clearly the worst car in Christendom right now. It's all right. We're still got Singapore this season. That's it. Come on. Come on.

Yeah, Gabby, great drive. First points in Formula One from eighth to eighth, race story from eighth to eight. That one page novel. But to be fair, that doesn't do it justice. Yeah, great race pace. does a brilliant two-stop strategy. And I think he gets seventh if it wasn't for the very awkward maneuver

between Friado and also and Lando Norris going into turn four. If they didn't meet the lap traffic, the first cars at that moment, I think Gabby maybe just gets in. But nice to see them to have a little hug afterwards as well. Obviously, manager and manager. That well-known word.

Marjorie! Grasshopper. Sorry, at your work, Sam. Is that what you call people that you manage? Your man-a-jee's. Yes, that is. Hello, Magi-Gis. It's a very Michael Scott of you.

Right, worst driver today. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. Ben, bin, bin, bin, worse driver of the day. You suck at driving. Sam, I think there's a few contenders for this, Who are you going with? Yeah, there are a few contenders. I shan't run through them.

So first I'm going to take the one that I thought really sucked, and that was Yuki Sengoda. My boy just drove straight into the side of someone. And whilst other people did that, he was also really, really slow. So not good as well. So, well, Yuki, whilst the car is terrible for that second seat, you're not doing it any help.

You're not doing yourself any justice. So, yeah, really bad. Yeah, it's not great when you three-stop a race because you're bored. That's basically what it felt like at the end of this race. We'll put him on some soft tyres with eight laps to go because, yeah, why not? I was in a furious debate with myself, Ben's got hands,

between Colopinto and Yuki Sonoda. And I couldn't decide which one. And just in the corner of the room, Kimmy Antonelli's just like hiding, maybe he won't notice me. Don't look over here. No, it's... Toto's big hangs are trying to shelter him.

It's a me, wall. But, hey, I got you, Kimmy. I've spotted you in the corner. I'm going to give it to you because that was not his best moment, was it? Hey, the boy goes a break. Come on, we know this. Good news. Previous driver who hated that quarter,

Charles LeCler, he's turned out all right. So maybe it's not the worst omen in the world. Very good point. Yeah. I think he hit Verstappen at about 300 bars an hour. Not ideal. You do have to break. We've seen a lot of crashes like that, haven't we?

Historically, we've seen a lot of crashes. like that at that corner. Yeah. Can I just say, he said in his interview again on Sky. He said it wasn't to do with him breaking too late. Are you sure, man? Absolute. Come on.

Twaddle, that is. Toto's there with a graph. Like, so here's where George broke. And then if we, and then opens up like the next. Everest. This is where you broke. He's not even in shot when they, where we start watching the replay. Anyway.

Commentator for it was Russell. That's how far back he was. Yeah. Who've you got, Harry? Yeah, it was a real race to the bottom between Kiri Antonelli, Franco Colopinto and Yuki Sonoda. I'd also potentially throw stroll in there, but... He's got away with this one.

A little bit. He's hiding behind Antenel. Yeah, yeah. They don't know. I'm here. But I'm going to go for Yuki Snowda, because you're right, he drove into... I know Antenelli did drive him to someone. But Sonoda drove into stroll and then also drove into Colabinto.

So that's two for two on that one, one on you key. That is a bad day. And if anything highlights the current problems Red Bull have with their second seat, today was that day. Yes. They are there on 162 points, whereas both Ferrari and Mercedes over 200 now. not ideal um

big brain strap uh bob we're gonna need you to box for wets what it's not even raining out what are you talking about

yeah and Bob if you get a chance let your teammate pass you Lewis Hamilton hating his strategies just getting that in early that's going to be our

that's going to be our mother at Ferrari this season Lewis Hamilton is going to kill a man what have you got some I'm going to go with Ferrari again because it's always good to get them in there for their original award. My favourite today about Strassie was of course

having to manage the car, lifting co, everyone, lifting co, look like we have lifting co-ing or corgous. I'm already doing that, Brian. Lyco. Yeah, a bit of Lyco.

Stop calling it that. That's terrible. Lift is one syllable, coast is one syllable, grow up. That is such an unnecessary abbreviation. It's like it. It's like abbreviating Sam Sage to

Esa. It takes the same length of time. It takes the same length of time to say. Yeah, it was just his response to me, like, I've been doing this, Brian. Like, what more do you want to do? Man, and it's just not getting any better for them. Upgrades, I'm not saving the car.

Harry, big brain trap. I had written down, quote, that is what I am doing, Brian, because that's an excellent quote. Yeah. I think we should get on a T-shirt. Yes. I'm going for, I'm going for,

I don't want to stop. as Lewis Hamilton's driving into his pit box. I love the delayed way to go. I don't want to stop. You are stopping, son. We've made it happen. They just didn't engage in the debate. It's like, no, we are stopping.

Okay. But I don't want to. Appreciate that, Lewis. Let's take a second break on this episode. On the other side, plenty more chat from the likes of Liam Lawson, Fernando Alonzo and Bortoletto. At Desjardin, we speak business.

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but good points for all three teams and all three drivers. Yeah, very much. So Liam Lawson, this is the race. He's, I mean, could have done this one a little bit earlier, but all respect. respect him because it was a sensational race for him executed very well. I know, as you said, Ben, he was kind of boxed into a corner

by the fact they just didn't have the tires. But he played it perfectly. I think, yeah, on a day when Red Bull scored no points, this was a very good message to send to the likes of Helmut Marco, Christian Horner, etc. that this is the Liam Lawson that we saw when he first jumped in that Alfort Towery in 2023 and obviously again towards the last year. It's the Liam Lawson that I guess got him the Red Bull Seat to begin with.

So it's been a long time coming and I hope that his sake this form continues. But yeah, today was excellent and I think much, much needed. Alonzo, the two Salbers, I don't think that Alaston Martin was actually very good. again. The two salbers, as we said, I don't think are actually terrible anymore. And to be fair, I mean, Borteletta was great. But to be fair to Holgerberg, he started so far down.

20 last. Yeah, that's a race that's probably going to fly under the radar as actually really good. So respect to him. But yeah, for both salters, I mean, this is mad. Both salvers were in the points. And also, their pin stops nowadays are ridiculous. Like, why? They couldn't put a tie.

Valtry Bottas is looking at that going, are you kidding me, guys? I'm a laugh. Um, so that, yeah, respect to them for the turnaround. But I think the car is genuinely getting better. And with that, Holgerberg and now Bortoletto are delivering on that, on that improved performance. Um, I particularly enjoyed, I think a few more laps,

Bortoletto gets past Alonzo anyway, but those last couple of laps in the traffic, that was the master. and the Padawan having a lesson in how to race. It was... The manager and the manager G. It was superb. It was the...

Alonso was doing his like slowing down at the right points in a corner stuff and Bortoletto got played like a fiddle for it. And I know disrespect him because he was superb this race. I just think maybe a slightly more experienced driver would have got passed slightly sooner. But yeah, that was Alonzo giving him a free tuition lesson. how to defend. But for all of those drivers, that is a good afternoon. And as they said in Sky Commentary, with

the midfield being so tight, and let's not forget the Williams pair not in this at all, those drivers, all scoring points is mightily helpful for them. So a good, solid afternoon's work for those drivers, because they took advantage, obviously, it was a bit of chaos and that one,

but took advantage of that and we've got some well-deserved points. I think as part of the driver of the day, chat, I gave Liam Larson his flowers, but certainly the other drivers in this conversation deserve a lot of respect as well. Salba. Three teams scored double points today. Ferrari, McLaren and Salba, as we all predicted. So well done to you.

You know, Bortoletto, that was definitely his best three race weekend of the season so far. From Holkenberg's perspective as well, Holkenberg has gone from 20th to 9th, was the only driver I believe not to use the hard tire, because why would you, Salba? He was just using the soft and then two sets of mediums, and he still finds 11 places on where he started. And he wasn't that far away from his teammate at the end of the Grand Prix. If he doesn't mess up qualifying and he starts somewhere around 10th, that could have been a very, very good day for Nika Holcombberg.

But even as it was, gets a couple of points. As I said, Bortoletto, definitely his best race weekend of the season so far. quite funny that he's actually scored points for the first time and doesn't move up in the championship because Liam Lawson scored more ahead of him, but it'll take his first points. Fernando Alonzo. Oh, it put a smile on my face those last couple of laps

because it's just so clever. He knows exactly what he's doing. Some of you idiots out there don't respect Fernando Alonzo and I have no problem calling you idiots. You can't watch that and not realize the genius of this man. He was playing the D.R. Absolutely perfectly. He was playing the traffic absolutely perfectly.

And I am convinced three quarters of the grid are getting overtaken by Bortoletto in those last couple of laps. And it's Alonzo's experience, his guy is just his racing brain that allowed him to stay ahead. I was so impressed with what he was able to do to finish ahead. And as I don't think a lot of drivers would have held off Bortoletto there. So, yeah, good one, idiot. It's not a good day for you. Alonso got hands. Do you think they still have that little cuddle

after the race if Bortoleto did get past? It's a nalbified. It feels like a long-so thing to go hug his guy when he beats him. Well done, you're not as good as me. Yeah, you still suck in comparison to me. The absolute master, good job grasshopper. Yeah, yeah, that was my last.

That was great. Absolutely love that fight between them. Alongso was super, because that Ashtamarting was really not good. That Salber has come on leaps and bounce. Absolute full credit to the team they brought in there. Wheatley's turned up and decided to, like I said, kicked down the door to the kick and blow the dust off the hobbs

and go, better rustle up some good grub for the rest of the team to start munching on because he's bringing a feast over there from Red Bull. I don't know how he's dang it, but he's having a great time with it, which is great to see. It's really nice to see them so competitive. Audi, in theory, should turn up to 2020-6

and have somewhat of a competitive car now. They shouldn't be struggling all at the back. But I want to give a proper shout-out to Liam Lawson. In the words of Lorimeckis, right at the start of this race, after the safety car came in, yes, Liam, he had a little bit of a crash. And it was absolutely sideswipes by this Mercedes-Festappan collision that happened directly next to him.

He's like, yeah, he's just been absolutely belted, lost some places, had to drive off the racetrack, poor Haggars at the back. that having got off both turn one and turn three because of this as well. But it could have gone so much worse. And I think Liam Lawson a few races ago would have dropped his head, got caught up in traffic, we've struggled a little bit.

But because he qualified so well, and he was able to then muddle his way through that drama. He really delivered a fantastic race. His tire management here was essentially second to gun. He was by far the best of his ties that we've seen from him. His entire time he's being here. And he delivered a really fantastic Romperee, great on the mediums, bringing them 33 laps.

great on the heart to deliver that end of race pace. Go away from Alonso, who was breathing down at the whole time. Really, really impressive. So, well, I've done to Leon Lorson. The other guys are fantastic, but I haven't sung my praise for Liam Lorsing. I'm really quite harsh on him. So brilliant race, racing balls need it. And the championship at the bottom there gets much, much sighter,

unless you're Alping, of course. Yeah. Can I just interject? Please. I've just seen this from the auto sport. Oscar Piastri had some team radio that we didn't hear on the broadcast when Colapinto tried to side swipe him. And it said Alpine still managed to find a way to F me over after all these years.

What a lot, Oscar. What a lying. Man is racing. However many miles an hour trying to win a Grand Prix, he still finds time to burn Alpine. Absolute banger from you, Oscar. That's so good. Good work.

He hates that team. Speaking of, there were a few incidents in this Grand Prix. I just wanted to run through and see if we all agree on what should have been the penalty, whether the right penalty was applied or not. Start with the first lap of the race. So we now know that Kimmy Antonelli will get a three-place grid penalty for Silverstone as a result of the incident between him and Vastappen. Obviously, he was out on the spot,

so there was no opportunity to penalise him during this Grand Prix. Harry, I think he claimed the corner, so I'm not sure I agree with this one. Head at the apex. First, right? Oh, honestly. Look, I think, I mean, Firstly, I know we joked saying he said he didn't get his braking too late,

but he's held his hands up. This is all on him. There's no way he couldn't, to be honest. It's a clear misjudgment that we've, you know, sometimes expect from a rookie driver. And I'm sure he will learn from this. Having said that, I don't, there's a couple of races now.

There's been a couple of incidents. I guess Monaco being in qualifying with that, you know, that cost him the whole race weekend. So yeah, it's something I'm sure Antoni's going to learn from. It was quite, it was, again, there was no intent here, and it's clear that he locked the rear brakes. And it was, from the point he'd locked the rear brakes, it was just trying not to have a crash.

And obviously that being such a tight corner on the first lap, the crash was inevitable. But I think there will be an element of, an element of just calming down, a bit of caution here. It was quite a Formula 2 move. By the way, F2 this weekend, are they well? No, they're not. What are they all doing, Davin?

Blimey. That corner in particular just don't like it. Clearly, Kimmy thought he was still there for a bit. But yeah, so it was the rookiest of mistakes, I think we've seen this year, out of any of the rookies. But, yeah, I think it was, it will be a tough one. to swallow and to be honest I'm quite surprised I mean this happened was obviously

irate on the radio thought it's going to be more mad quite frankly I don't think he was that bothered about driving this afternoon I don't think he thought he was going to have a good day because yeah I expected more but he didn't look at that phase when Kimmy came up to him afterwards so yeah it was a tough one

and he'll bounce back I'm sure but these these things do happen I think he just we joke about him not wanting to break but I think maybe an element of caution, without dampening the speed that he has shown, an element of caution might have to start being injected into Kimmy Antenelli a little bit. Three-place group penalty first, Sam? No. No, no, no, no, no, far too lenient. It should be at least a five. But then again, he's got two penalty points in his license,

and we'll land on Norris Crowver to the back of Oscaria. Nothing, which is great. So it's good, it's good consistency from everyone once again. I'm actually surprised they're penalized it at all because it was on that one. And they love just going, like, just a bit of rough and tumble between two pals, that is. And it was really quite bad from Kimmy Antingelli. This is now four of the last five races where he has not scored a point. He's had three DNFs and an 18th place in the last five races. And of course, his podium that he picked up at Canada.

a little bit worrying, just a little bit now, needs a good end to this first half of the season, needs to go into that summer break with a pretty solid performance. I'm not talking to George Dressor, as being a clean race where he's there or thereabouts with his teammate, the scores of points, because I know he's a rookie, he's going to make mistakes. This is a rookie mistake.

We are halfway through the season at this point. This was a very, very rookie error and a very costly one to the Seiz. And I do think that he probably could have ending up in front of the likes of Lawson, Alonso, Boroletto. that group there and they can have walked home with some resemblance

of decent points scoring. So yeah, I think they should be a five. I think he should have three penalty points and I think that realistically he's got off lightly for this but who knows with the FIA because there's no consistency at all. Yeah, I think he can be quite happy

with just a three-place grid drop for the next Grand Prix. I tend to frown quite a lot on attempted murder but he seems to have got off okay. Colopinto, he was involved in two incidents. one of which he was penalised for, one of which the other driver was penalised. Let's start with the, well, they both somewhat involve Yuki Sonoda, but let's start with the one where there was contact between Colopinto and Sonoda. That got Sanoda a 10 second time penalty. Harry, did you agree with

that one? Yes. I, do you know, the one that I found worse for Sonoda was the Stroh one than this one. No penalty for that, right? No, nothing. No, Stroh gives him, I mean, Sir comes from miles back. Strong gives him all the room in the world and Sonoda still rams him off the circuit, but nothing for that one. That's fine. So that, again, is inconsistently playing havoc again

in the stewarding room. Maybe they thought they messed up and thought they'd make this one 10 seconds because he'd done it twice. I don't know. I actually wouldn't put it past the scuice hearing that either. Generally, would it go, oh, just double this one,

because we forgot the last one. but go by the last one but yeah I think the penalty for applying a penalty for the collar pinter one is fair I would and I don't remember off the top of my head and I should have gone to look at this beforehand we've had a lot of accidents

like that at that corner what were the penalties applied do we know because I don't think 10 yeah I feel like they would have been they were less in 10 seconds so maybe this one's been overly overly harsh but yeah, that's just inconsistent. Having a penalty correct,

and maybe they did just double it because they didn't do the straw one, I don't know. But yeah, it wasn't great from... It wasn't great from Snowda, very, very deserved penalty for that one. Yes, I agree. I'm fine with 10 seconds, and I would have given the other one 10 seconds as well.

Sam. Agreed. Fine with 10 seconds. We'll give the other 10 seconds as well for the stroll situation. I also would have given Colin Pinto a penalty for running Berman off the track as well, which she just took him straying off the track as well.

And then, of course, the Piastri instinct, which was real heart in the mouth kind of stuff there. So, uh-oh, you're about to wipe out the guy challenging for the leader, the championship leader. It's just like he wasn't there. It's like he didn't know he was there. It was bizarre. But yes, also penalty, worthy.

Yeah, I think my TV was acting up because I could see it. It's a five-second penalty for... Yeah, yeah. I think actually that's just the skewers being. crap again, mate. Did they not mean 50 or 500? Five seconds. Five seconds. He was a lapped car. Get out the way, man. Come on. I audibly gasped at that one. I really thought that could go south. I thought it should have been more than five seconds. Speaking of penalties, this is so irrelevant. So sorry to all this. And so you actually, you're not on the podcast. But if you're watching on sky, there's an Audi advert at the moment.

where it has five a cappella singers sat in the car going, we like to move it, move it, or physically fit, or whatever it is. And I hate it so much. And I would like them to penalise whoever made that. And I would you can start, actually, with a grand penalty for next season because it is awful. Congratulations to Sky Sports in their adverts.

They have made sure that I will never use workday in my goddamn life. I hate that one. That's bad. Never. Not touching it. I'll be a rock star every day. By the other one, rock star, all the time. Let's call off for one more time.

We're going to take a quick break on the other side, moment of the race. We'll alarm you to go that I'm not wearing trousers. Yes. Welcome back, everyone. It's a bit of a weird one, but we need to stand up for this segment. So if you could...

No? Don't do me like that, bro. What's the first problem? Way! You got me tight and white. He's all right? Yeah. Usually you just put something on top of that.

Returns. Hank's a live song. Right. Moment of the race. It does not include Sam's bare legs. Harry, what is your moment of the race? I will go for

Carlos Steins' car not wanting to be extinguished ever. Just no. That's how I feel or we feel like you get at the moment. Please put me out. Please extinguish me.

Yeah, I had a couple of ones written down, but they fell into the big braids trap, which were just Ferrari. That's what I am trying. I'm doing, Brian, really got me. Yeah. James Vowles with his head, heading his hands. Just like, don't look at me.

It got a really bad headache. I think that's a fair one. I'm going to go with just the Piastrian Norris battle. Yeah. Just a lot of fun, wouldn't it? Particularly in a season where, you've got such a dominant team and you have quite a few races where that dominant team is just so far away from everyone else. You really need those interteam battles to keep things interesting.

And that's what we got here. We actually got like, even the laps where they weren't side by side, you had like 20 laps of a move could be made at any moment, which was great to watch. Sam. That was my, I'll offer up something different just for the sake of it. Hamilton, I'll go around the outside of Lawson through turn six. I thought it was a really fun battle. I know that there was a slight difference on tires there, but it was a really, really fun battle. I thought it was a really, really fun for having to get through the traffic like that. Like that a lot. And we've got some submissions from our Discord.

How are we doing this one then? There we go. There's the bong. The bong. Thank you, everyone, for your submissions. First up, we have Caroline's number one dad. moment of the race in Austria get little Kimmy a

sponsorship that was about as late breaking as he could have ever been taking Max out on the first lap that's the moment of the race All the famer potentially yeah I respect it he's doing it for the love of the game the late breaking game there's the Bullet Bill Award of the day

enough to see that check out just still for that next up is Bullet Bill speaking of him Mr Bullet Bill here my moment of the race was seeing the four pretty commandingly holding down third and fourth. This week's Bullet Bill Award, though, goes to Little Kimi Antinelli. Keep breaking late, fellas. It's a little Kiwiatorrelli.

What have we done? Honestly, it would be great to the sound wave on that. It would be that one constant and then just that one spike at the end. Yep. I don't want to say this. Say it. Why? Say it.

The next up is Lando's helmet. My moment of the race was Colapinto giving Piastri a nice set of brown trousers. That's exactly what Landers' helmet would sound like too. I get it, what's wrong with Landis helmet? Nothing, nothing at all. It'd be a bit weird if he didn't, well. Bongas is this next.

Nothing? It's McLaren C-E-O. Yeah, in my moment of the race is a couple moments, and it's really just the lap carves, just deciding they wanted to do whatever they wanted, and being a bunch of menaces. Good race. Yeah.

It does raise the question of, should you get out the way for blue flags for the league? It's because I really want that rule scrapped. I think this will be very exciting. Martin Brundel is adamant that that rule should be scrapped. I think I might agree with him.

I agree with him. That sounds, let's save it for that midweek episode, but we're on a row. Yes. Alex C is next. Hey there, guys. Alex here in New York City. My moment of the race today

is got to be double-pulled. points for the Sauber. That green toaster did the darn thing. Way to go. I'm so happy for this turnaround. I've always liked Salbert. I'm glad they're doing good. Hopefully they can turn out into real competitive squad. Cheers. Love that. That could be next question of the week, by the way, is, you know, rather than a toaster, it's been upgraded to what? Like, we need to figure out. If it's not going to be the green toaster, it's got to be someone else. Like that. Like that. One Shade of Ginger's next What's up, Late Breakers?

It's one shade of ginger here Moment of the race for me Got to give it to Liam Lawson I was critical and said Just get around the track Without hitting people And instead he gets around the track And he scores some good points

So kudos to him Cheers boys, keep breaking late Patreon City, beautiful day today It's always a beautiful day in Patreon Patreon saying Yeah, someone hit him instead So yeah, can't play not on him Geekin Cycles next

Hey late breakers geek and cycle here My moment of the race was Franco Colopinto And thinking he was in the race And trying to race that McLaren Like it was his job Five seconds seems a little light for me But you know Such is life

Congratulations McLaren Keep breaking late I like that the skewers can use the expression Such his life We're justifying a penalty It must do Eh Me

Next time it got Blazy. Hey, boys, moment of the race. Okay, Lewis, box this lap, box this lap. But my tires feel good. Box this lap, box this lap. How many laps are there left? 20 laps. I feel good.

Let me box this lap, Lewis, box this lap. I love that they're obsessed with the ultimate race time and that's it. Ultimate race time pitting you into traffic. Yeah. That's the ultimate race time. That's Ferrari. We've got a one-two on the card in, Lewis. Come on, focus.

We can take away all the points. Oh, good. Finally, we've got English duck. Crack, quackly breaking English duck here. My moment of the race was the handsome Carlos signs using the wrong definition of a smoke show, which ended up giving Daddy vowels quite the headache. Quack, duck out.

I also love that he isn't English. And also it's a double quack for the intro, but a single quack for the outro. What's up with that? Much can be studied in the realm of duck submissions. Thanks everyone for your submissions. Very much appreciated. Before we go, though, Sam, it's the last episode of June, which means we need to say a very important message, which is a hubbip of day. Happy birthday.

Yes, we have so many wonderful birthdays. Thank you to everyone on Patreon that subscribes to our highest, highest tier. As part of that top tier, the Hall of Fame tier, you get a birthday. If you fancy, of course, you get a birthday shout out. You do that by sending your birthday to us on Patreon, and we write it down with this great little spreadsheet, and I get to read them out at the end of each month. So for June, we have many.

Cecilia Keneally, June 5th. Have been birthday. Brandon, June 6, happy birthday. Matt on June 25th, happy birthday. Andrew Weber, June 30th, happy. Wait, is that today? No, it's tomorrow. Happy birthday for tomorrow.

Thomas on the 13th of June, happy birthday. Simon, Sam Leplang Fang, Saville on June 30th. I hope that's got nothing to do with me. Thomas Trising on June 30th, happy birthday. LAM on June 2nd, happy birthday. Ginking cycle, you were just done.

Happy birthday for June 9. Justin. Andrew, June 22nd, happy birthday. Sorry, I've got over this. It's too long. Curry goal, which is a beautiful. Happy birthday for all of June. And then Christymore, happy birthday for June 28th, which was yesterday. So, like a lovely birthday, everyone there.

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