The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2025 Belgian GP Race Review

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

Ben and Harry are here to review the Belgian Grand Prix, where tricky conditions couldn’t stop a familiar result: Oscar Piastri leading a McLaren 1–2. They dive into his clinical overtake for the ...win, the lengthy weather delay, Ferrari’s mixed bag, and much more! >>> Don't miss out - limited tickets left for our 2025 LIVE SHOW in Austin TX! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to grab yours or for more info!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead and me, Ben Hocking, today reviewing the Belgian Grand Prix 1 by Oscar Piastri in a McLaren 1-2, Lando Norris in second, with Charlotte Claire completing the podium in third. I have to air my grievance to start this episode. I've been saying all weekend long
Starting point is 00:00:52 throughout Friday's review, yesterday's review. Today was going to be the return of the LB trio. And because of SPAR and its 90 minute delay, that is no longer the case. So thank you, Spar. You made me look like an idiot. Well done, Spar.
Starting point is 00:01:06 But there's two thirds, which, you know, that's more than one, folks, if you get your fingers and your abacus is out. Yeah, but sorry. I mean, Ben, you did a superb job of doing two solo podcasts over the weekend and a great sprint race rant in the process, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Get in the bin, you suck. Yeah, thank you, Spar, for your 90-minute delay.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I've been on a holiday for two weeks and immediately wanted to tear my hair out watching F1 and FIA do FIA and F1 things. So thank you for that. It's a great restart. Absolutely love it. I also, I can't be, I can't be made to be a fool here. So I did say that all three of us would be on this episode. So Harry, you are going to have to answer for yourself,
Starting point is 00:01:54 but then afterwards also then do Sam's answer. Is that okay? Perfect. No, we're never doing any sort of impersonation podcast ever again, ever. Did that not go well last time? I think we lost a lot of listeners. So let's not do that again. I lost a lot of hair, brain cells and will to live.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. So we're not going to do that today, but we have got plenty to cover on this Belgian GP review. We've got Ferrari and their new upgraded rear suspension working wonders with a third and seventh-place finish. Oh, it burns. Mercedes, George Russell win fifth,
Starting point is 00:02:34 but Antonelli out of the points. Our thoughts on the 90-minute delay before we actually got going. But let's start out front with Oscar Piastri taking the race win. head of Landau Norris, and in the process, that championship advantage has extended to 16 points between those two drivers. Of course, that's not the way around they were at the beginning of this race. Landau Norris had got pole. He'd almost got what he wanted as well with a rolling start rather than a standing start, potentially helping him with the slipstream effect that someone in second or third might have on him. But even so, Oscar Piastri, able to overtake Landau
Starting point is 00:03:14 Norris on that first green flag racing lap and holding the victory until the end. Let's start with the start, Harry. Are you surprised with the relative ease with which Piastri managed to get by Norris? Yes, I was. And given the, you know, from LaSauce, although I down up to Lecom, is just flat out these days. I know it was wet, but even so, and I say wet, barely wet. Um, it's, more on that later. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Um, it's such a, it's such a slipstream fest. Even on a rolling start, I don't think it's the most surprising thing in the world, but I think, um, I think this was potentially more Norris not playing it particularly well. Uh, and Piastri being, being wise to it. Um, that helped him out. So, because I think, and we saw in the sprint race yesterday with, with, with the Stappam, being in P2, actually at Spa is, it's like it used to be at Sochi, for example, and even maybe like Spain, where being in second place is actually more advantageous because you get that slipstream effect all the way up to Lake Om.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And getting a move done into LaSauce is utterly pointless, quite frankly. So you just need to stay close. And Norris went quite early at the restart and Piastri stayed with him. Didn't have a great exit out of LaSauce. And when I was watching it, I remember saying, I was like, Piastri's, I remember saying,
Starting point is 00:04:42 I love Piestri is going to have it. him as soon as he had that wiggle out of turn one i was like there's no way he doesn't blast past obviously norris i think trying to make up for the little wiggle used all of his battery but i think before it even got out the top of radion that helped things um so yeah it was it was sort of like you know piastri playing it well and a mix of uh norris not not making the most of what was a more advantageous position with a rolling start i think he didn't particularly play that very well and from there on in it was it was it was difficult work for for norris to do much about it so yeah an impressive
Starting point is 00:05:17 what we've become accustomed to with piastro it was very impressive um and cool and calm and collected in terms of how we how we handled that start because normally you'd say that's that's an easy one for norris to keep hold of especially in the wet this race kind of convinced me that at this point in the season i think we can pretty comfortably say that it's going to be one of the two McLaren's that wins the drive this championship at this point. I think it would take something a bit crazy for Vastappen or someone else to get in the mix. I'm convinced now that in terms of outright pace, they are just going to trade blows one weekend after the other and it's going to end up fairly
Starting point is 00:05:59 even across the season. That's what we've had so far about halfway through. I think that's going to continue. I really think this championship is going to be decided tactically. We are going to see these little but important moments in Grand Prix that I think are going to see. separate the two of them and whoever wins enough of those might well win the championship. And this was an example of one of those key defining moments, I think, as we go throughout this season. Norris doesn't get, even before we talk about LaSauce at term one, when he decides to go, he does not manage to get away from Oscar Piastri in a way that you sometimes can do on a safety car restart or a rolling start as it was here. Piastri, I think, there's a really good
Starting point is 00:06:45 job of staying in the slipstream almost immediately. His reaction time must have been pretty on it because there was really no gap separating Norris and Piastri as they went down to the bus stop and then through the final corner to start the lap. The last source one was in, that's where it's won and lost is term one. This is a bit of a rarity because ordinarily we record pretty much straight after the Grand Prix finish. We have a little, we had a little bit of time today. And as a result of that, I actually managed to catch some of the post-race analysis on Sky Sports and Ann Davison, a friend of the podcast, at the skypad, able to dissect what happens at term one. Piaastri sends him a little dummy. And it's very clever the way that he does that.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You could argue from Norris's perspective, should he be falling for that? Is Piazzi ever going to really try and make that move? Given how close he was, is he ever going to try and make the move into term one. I think it'd be quite foolish too. But Norris's exit is compromised as a result of being sold that dummy. And as you say, as soon as term one happens, it's a bit of a waiting gap. Like, you know it's going to happen. It's just the case of where it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It almost got to the point where Piastri caught him too early because we saw a couple of other times throughout the race today. Other overtake attempts, we've had a few just almost have to not break, but just get off the throttle a little bit as you go. through O'Rouge because you've already caught up to the driver ahead. Piaastri was nearly in that spot. As it happens, though, he's able to get to the outside. And the move was relatively simple.
Starting point is 00:08:22 From Norris's perspective, there'll be disappointment. From Piastri's perspective, he absolutely nailed that. So credit to him. I was surprised how early Norris went on that start in terms of when he pinned it. Yeah. Because he could have had, the same thing would have happened if he just had crawled through all the way through Blanchmont, through the bus stop, and then gone,
Starting point is 00:08:45 because no one was overtaking him there anyway. I'm surprised he decided to go before, for the bus stop. I mean, hindsight is a wonderful thing, etc. But yeah, I was just quite surprised. I've got a lot of time here. And the last thing you want is he lost the element of surprise in that sense. He didn't have a chance to surprise Piaastri again out of the bus stop
Starting point is 00:09:05 because they're up to racing speed. So, yeah, I'm not saying that was, you know, one or loss. I was surprised by it. Yeah. And then a difficult situation that he put himself in because we've seen over the years, Hamilton and Vettel, most notably in recent times, I say recent times, it's like seven years ago now.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But we've seen like Hamilton defend against Vettel, right, going up sort of O'Rouge and Rady on by being quite careful about where you go for it. And you could almost halt the progress and halt the momentum of the car behind to try and keep your position, maybe a bit more difficult because of the weather conditions and you don't want to think maybe too much of those games and you are just focused on the first time
Starting point is 00:09:49 you're going through at racing speed, Orujan Radion just doing whatever you can to keep it pinned and not go off. But it's not impossible to defend as you go through there, but from Norris's perspective, it was kind of done very early. What about the rest of the race and the way it unfolded for the McLaren duo?
Starting point is 00:10:08 So we had Lando Norris go into the pits one lap later than Oscar Piastri, McCarran avoiding the double stack. But a difference in strategy with Piastri going on to the mediums alongside 18 other drivers on the grid. And Lando Norris going for a hard tire that he was hoping would take him to the end. Of course, that's exactly how it happened. But Piastri's medium tire also going all the way to the end. How did you see it play out? We saw a few errors from Lando Norris in his, in his quest to track down Piastri.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Norris did seemingly have the better pace for much of this Grand Prix. Yeah, and I'm surprised more drivers didn't, or more teams didn't try and put a hard tire on their cars because there was no... On the back, like, yeah. Why not? Because there was no guarantee that those mediums would go,
Starting point is 00:10:59 especially how early we ended up pitting in terms of the race distance and how long they had left for slicks. I was surprised more didn't go for it. I know it was a bit unknown, but why not give that go? So clearly the hard tie was the right call. It was just not executed properly by Norris. I think, I think, again, this was another element of Norris not quite executing it properly.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And Piastri was being superb with his tire management, quite the Stappan-esque, I'd say. Because they pointed out on the, at least on the sky broadcast at the end that Piastri then smashed out a couple of personal best on the last couple of laps just to show he still had he'd been saving his ties up. We didn't need to in the end. But yeah, so I think I think the hard try was the right way to go. And I am surprised more teams didn't, didn't try that. But yeah, as we saw, Norris was clearly pushing hard. And there's no doubt. And as you said, Ben, this is going to be like this, I think for the rest of the season. These drivers are trading blows at basically every race. And this time around, it was it was Piastri that had the, had the upper hand. But
Starting point is 00:12:07 so evenly matched that I'm I don't want to come down too harshly on Norris here but there were there were some mistakes and they again they were pointing this out in the comms had he not had those two errors during during the the race he probably would have been up with piastri right as we got towards the final laps and obviously that last one he had at the source on the penultimate lap obviously put pay to any sort of challenge but yeah you'd have to say that he didn't quite execute what I think was the faster strategy in the end. The mediums could do it.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And I think we saw were those who two stopped their medium, did their two stints on mediums, that there wasn't really actually that much difference in terms of having and set a fresh mediums versus holding onto the ones he had. But it was clear that I think the hard tire strategy was the better one to go for.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So I think Norris will be disappointed. I think it was always going to be a hard, this was always going to be a hard challenge after he lost Lee because then he couldn't double stack so then he pitted and came out what was it I don't know nine seconds behind I think
Starting point is 00:13:14 when he came out after the pit stops from Interest to Slicks and I think from there it was always an uphill uphill challenge so yeah he had a he had a tough challenge ahead of him and fair play he gave it a good go and there were a couple of sketchy moments
Starting point is 00:13:28 with the one of Poo-Wan goodness me he was boy he should be Poo-O-Boo-Wing because who on the seat yeah literally. So he was clear he was pushing hard and it just didn't work out from this time. But yeah, I think I am looking forward to the rest of the season for this sort of battling because even though there was no actual battle and it's been rare we've actually seen it
Starting point is 00:13:52 this year where they go toe to toe. But it's quite enjoyable to watch. I know people might not think it is but like them trading times and watching the sector times come down has been quite good this year. So more of that, but just maybe a little bit closer next time and no lockups, please Lando. That's just reminded me, because I agree, like, watching the times and seeing how it might unfold towards the end of the race is really thrilling.
Starting point is 00:14:22 There was a moment on Sky Sports commentary, at least, where lead commentator David Croft is going on about the potential that Olly Beerman could match one of his favorite statistics of being out, being in the same position. position for four races in a row that isn't a victory. And Martin Brundle completely like... Ignore it, went back to the back. Yeah, straight back to like what the gap is at the front. It's exactly what everyone...
Starting point is 00:14:49 4.7. Yeah, all right. Cheers, Martin. Thank you. I really enjoyed that. Can I... Sorry, absolute side note on this. I feel like the long... Obviously, had a delay. The longer you let Crofty commentate for, the weirder things get than what he says. What he talks about?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Honestly, I'm still not over Andy Cal banning French fries chat. Like, what? What was that? Oh, God. Anyway, that was only 30 minutes in as well. Yeah, you're absolutely right. This should have been a toe-to-to-to moment. Like, this should have been a few laps to go.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Lano Norris gets DRS. whether he could make the pass or not. And it's partly him and it's partly not him. So the slow pit stop he had, as far as I'm aware, I don't know there was a question mark on the broadcast. Did he get on his marks exactly? Look the right of me, but a slow stop, which definitely costs him a little bit of time there.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Ultimately, him coming in on the lap after Oscar Piastri, definitely hurt him. Equally, they might as well have double-stacked it, probably. I think the amount of time that he lost being out there for another lap plus the slow stop anyway, I think they might have, even if he would have lost a little bit as a result of the double stack, it still might have been worth doing that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 But equally, the reason why he has to be second in the queue is because he lost the lead at the start. So some of it is team related, and then obviously some of it is error related. There were a few notable errors that we saw throughout the Grand Prix. if you add them up, he was only, what was it, with two laps to go, maybe four seconds or so off
Starting point is 00:16:39 the lead of the Grand Prix. They might not have added up to four seconds, but they definitely added up to close to four seconds to the point where could he have got DRS, would he have been able to overtake even with DRS, a car that is obviously the same level as his? I don't know. But Norris will have, I think Norris will look at this one and say, this was a bit of a missed opportunity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 There have been a few race, sorry, as I say, there have been a few race wins this season like Spain, for example, where I think Norris just has the oldest, like, Piahtri was better that day. Here. Yeah. I agree. And also, again, like you say, the mistakes may not have added up to those four seconds, but it's the, I know, so we're dealing with what ifs,
Starting point is 00:17:30 but it might have been two and a half. seconds and then he's he's in his mirrors and then that's a completely different scenario isn't it so even if he's not right on the back of him um i think it changes the dynamic of of that battle entirely so yeah i agree i think i think you will and like like we've already said i think it will be you know they'll go back and forth a lot this year and you know he's not he's walked away with this one with the loss from from pole but um yeah i think he'll be secretly secretly disappointed how that went. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So now 16 points separating them far from over. Of course, many races still to go. One more before the summer break and then a host of races after that. Shall we review our bold predictions? Sure. It won't take very long because if you have got the abacus out and you're keeping track of how many we've scored so far this year, you won't have to do any hand action.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Harry, you said that there would be a completely different, sprint one, two, three, and a main race, one, two, three. I happen to see both Piastri and Norris on both of those podiums. Yeah, it's a real shame. I should have said they were in different positions, and then I'd have been totally right, but no, it was not to be. And I've figured that maybe some wet weather would play havoc, but again, we'll get onto this.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We didn't really see much wet weather racing, so it didn't matter. Yeah. I mean, speaking of not quite, myself and Sam, what a boy. Decided to get all aboard the Ferrari hype train as a result of their new upgrade that was going to completely revolutionise their season. They got a podium in the former Charles Lecler
Starting point is 00:19:19 and, oh boy, a nail-biter to the flag as LeCleur finished just under a pit stop behind, 20 seconds off the pace of the leader. so it's not right I know we're going to get on to Ferrari you should have you should have known that this wasn't going to work because they tested these upgrades
Starting point is 00:19:39 in Magello earlier in the week and then when Lewis Hamilton was asked about it he was like it wasn't a test it was a filming day and I was like oh boy they they know they not what you want them to be are they more on Ferrari later in the episode let's take our first break
Starting point is 00:19:59 on this episode on the other side Our thoughts on when racing got underway and how it should have been handled. Back, everyone. We are, of course, today reviewing the Belgian Grand Prix, but it was a Belgian Grand Prix that started pretty much when it should have ended. I think we had about 90 minutes separating the formation lap that we had at the top of the hour, at the time when we were supposed to start pretty much, and then much later on when it was decided that we couldn't go racing for quite a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:49 long time. What did you make of it all? It made me want to repeatedly punch myself on the face because that would actually be more enjoyable. I was just, and I know we've been here before and it's just so frustrating because it's so frustrating because as lifelong fans, we are frustrated by this. I can't imagine what it's like as a newer fan to the sport because it would drive me, I'm about what is going on?
Starting point is 00:21:20 What, what are you doing? Firstly, I want to say, because I know that, you know, we are harsh on the FIA and the stewarding quite often, I feel quite fairly.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And, you know, when we talk about penalties and how the show of the sport shouldn't affect the penalties, and they are two separate things. Having said that, there needs to be a degree of, like, logic.
Starting point is 00:21:47 in what is being done and to actually think about i'm not saying think about the show but logically think about what is the product of of f1 the sport that you are the governing body of here because everything is so slow and so it feels so backwards and communication for i know obviously speak to the teams but the communication too outwardly to the people the public imagine you're in the grandstand and you just sat in the rain i'd be furious i'd just go home especially for Spark, because they've been here before. I'd walk home. Warcom.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, I've had enough of this. I understand the initial first call to, they did the formation lap and then they suspended it immediately. And I know I can see both sides of, well, why don't we send them around for a few more laps, see if it clears water. But with that extra band of rain coming in, what I think we would have potentially ended up with
Starting point is 00:22:46 was a few laps of racing, which yes, you can argue it's fine, but I think we still would have ended up in the same position after a few laps anyway. So I can see the argument behind that and for holding. And I'm glad that they didn't start the clock and everything. That was obviously all confirmed a bit later on, but the fact we only had one formation lap,
Starting point is 00:23:06 that nothing has started here. We're actually going to hold weight. I'm okay with that. And we see it in a bit more so in America and racing in America, but rain delays are often a thing. and I'm okay with that. So fine. What frustrates me the most
Starting point is 00:23:22 is then how slow it is to get going again because once that band of rain had come through, honestly, the moment of the first camera shot, there was some people in the crowd and they were right on the front row of a covered grandstand and they had sun on their face. And I was just like, let's go. Let's go now, or at least send out the medical car
Starting point is 00:23:40 because it was at least another 10 minutes before that, after that, sorry, before even the medical car went out. And by that point, we were more than ready to go. And then the medical car stops. I think we wait another five minutes. Then we get the call. And it's a 15 minute. Then another 15 minutes before the cars actually get going.
Starting point is 00:23:59 That drives me, I had to go and do something else because it drives me insane. It drives me up the wall. The fastest sport in the world can be this slow on getting a race going. Because I appreciate all the safety concerns. I 100% do and the visibility 100%. But why they've got all these amazing weather forecasting systems, they can look up in the sky. When the rain is starting to stop,
Starting point is 00:24:26 tell them all to start getting ready. Why are they not sat in the cars ready to go? So when it does seem like a safe, so even the moment there's medical car, excluding the medical car that a wrecky lap said it was safe to send them out, when the medical car's done that, safe to send them out, let's roll. Let's roll out now because we're just wasting time. And obviously they had the two minimum that's behind the safety cap.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I think we ended up with four in the end. But it was getting dry. By the time it started, it was getting dry in places. And it's just what is the point in wet weather racing? Because if we're going to do it like that, we might as just never race in the wet and always wait for it to be dry. And I think what is most frustrating as well is, and it's quite a spa-specific thing.
Starting point is 00:25:19 The visibility is always worse as spa because the spray gets kicked up and then it just hangs in the trees. The nature of spa, it always does. But we had Silverton three weeks ago, where the rain was way worse, and we didn't have these stoppages or these delays, and then you get to spa,
Starting point is 00:25:35 and we have this, and it just seems to be fast-co when we come here. And I think it's the nature of the track and the layout and everything, and we love the track for it. but they've got to find a way we're continuing to race here. I know it's going to go on alternate years.
Starting point is 00:25:49 We've got to find a way around it for this track because it just, it does rain here quite often. We can't keep going on like this because it's so slow. So, it's really annoying. It's just, it's just,
Starting point is 00:26:03 and it's just, it's just, it's just, I was looking at it. And when we started, finally started the race and it was drying up. I was like, well,
Starting point is 00:26:10 this, this is just let, because we've lost all the element of the, of, of, what would be a dramatic wet race. And I was like, they're going to be on dry soon. So we might as well just waited until it got fully dry and done a dry race,
Starting point is 00:26:21 because that probably would have been more interesting, quite frankly. So thank you, FIA. Welcome back from a holiday. Yeah, they timed it perfectly just for that. You had to come back from your holiday and then immediately need another one for a month because that's the result of today's Grand Prix. You mentioned like, obviously, we're, we're hardcore. fans, aren't we? We've been fans for a long time. And we'll stick around no matter what, but you do have to
Starting point is 00:26:50 question what this would have looked like for a new fan. And I mean, as we, as we saw today, very, very much front and center, there can be a lot of new fans at the moment. We got that straight away from the intro. Oh, don't. Oh, God, I can't even talk about that. What are you, no, carry on, Ben. the revamped F1 intro presumably for just this Grand Prix. Oh, please, just for this Grand Prix. Please. I think it will be. But like it was direct from the F1 movie.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And that's a relevant time to bring this up because there probably will be a lot of new fans watching right about now because of the F1 movie. And this is their introduction to our sport. And they've gone again. You've just wasted like hundreds of millions of dollars on a. budget for this film to then have this, this fast. Like, come on. In terms of like the start of the Grand Prix, like I say start, I mean the intended initial start, I am okay with the fact that if we couldn't go racing at that point,
Starting point is 00:28:01 we couldn't go racing. But I think two things need to happen before we can fully decide that that didn't happen today. Firstly, if you're not on the wet weather tire, I don't think we can make a decision as to whether we can go racing or not. If you're out there on a tire that is not the intended tire for that type of weather and you're saying it sprays too much, can't go racing, but you're not even trying the tire that is supposed to work in those conditions.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Whether it does or doesn't is another thing, but you've got to at least be circulating on the wet weather tire before we can call this. And secondly, this was raised by Max Verstappen. And again, maybe it doesn't actually make a difference. Can we come up with a solution where we can have these drivers going around for a few laps at least to see if they can clear some of the water? I would be okay with some sort of idea where, let's say, you're in this situation today, you're out there on the wet weather tire, you go around for four or five laps, water doesn't clear. Okay, you bring everyone back in, we can't go racing yet. and then you're allowed to refuel back to the original point
Starting point is 00:29:12 and then you've still got a full race if you can then go go racing again and you set however many laps you want as the maximum you can do that for. But I just don't think we were in an accurate enough place to actually say whether we could go racing or not because they're not on the right bloody tyre. The wet weather, and there's so many people,
Starting point is 00:29:32 there's so much discourse on this like and so many memes about it's, what's the point in that tire? but seriously why are they why are Pirelli lugging that tire around the world
Starting point is 00:29:44 for what reason because it's never even at a point when it is used in a race we see now drivers don't want to go on it because as soon as the rain gets too much
Starting point is 00:29:53 for that for an inter we end up red flagging a race anyway so they don't bother putting the wet tire on because you lose out it's just
Starting point is 00:30:01 it should be man and we've had it before I mean it's quite a long time ago now but I think Fuji 2017 which is like another world away in terms of wet weather racing. Don't show the FIA that race. They would be shocked at their own actions.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But I'm pretty sure, I'm going to have to go back and check it, pretty sure that race start was mandated on the wet, everyone had to be on the wet tire. I'm pretty sure Ferrari didn't and they were told to pick because that's classic Ferrari. But we can do that. Today we're going to do this behind the safety car. All of you put the wet weather.
Starting point is 00:30:37 the tires on because that in itself will help clear water as you said even if it's just to do your idea of just circulating for a bit it will it will chuck up more water than than the inter does so honestly what's the point in that tire stupid the other thing that you mentioned which is maybe a bit more of a sparse specific issue is that it's it's it's annoying enough when you have a delay but sometimes it's necessary like if you are seriously in danger of aquaplaning and these cars just might fly off the circuit without anything the drivers can do about it. You can understand the stoppage.
Starting point is 00:31:15 You can understand why it can't go ahead. That wasn't the situation today. We heard from the drivers on that formation lap. The Stanley Water was okay. It wasn't that much of an issue. The issue is the spray is the visibility. And we saw, I think, was in on board from Daniel Ricardo from a couple of years ago
Starting point is 00:31:32 and how little you can actually see. And you can understand it at that point. But I think that's what we need to go after is working out how we can possibly reduce that. Because if we are in a situation where the standing water isn't enough of an issue to get going, yet we still can't because of the spray, it's very difficult to see how this could have gone any other way. I have some suggestions that we also have ground effect cars, which we won't again as of next year. but whether the, because it's been
Starting point is 00:32:03 quite a particular issue in this era of F1, hasn't it, the spray? Yeah. And whether that will change again next year. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:12 something needs to be done. Because my blood pressure can't take watching. Watching nothing for 90 minutes. You're right. The thing that annoyed me the most, though, was the getting started after.
Starting point is 00:32:30 The delay itself, was a little bit annoying, but you can understand it to an extent. Not getting started about 20 minutes before we actually did is inexcusable. How have we got to a point where it is so slow? We did. Today's race was a quarter of a Grand Prix on intermediate tires and three quarters of a Grand Prix on dry tires. That should not have been, that should have been a quarter of a Grand Prix on wet tires, a quarter of a Grand Prix on intermediate tires, half a Grand Prix on dries. If we start like 20 minutes earlier,
Starting point is 00:33:03 as I think we should have done. There's no reason why we couldn't have gone a little bit earlier than what we did. And even behind the safety car, we're out there like two laps behind a safety car more than we need to, for sure. I'm like, fine. Two laps behind the safety car,
Starting point is 00:33:18 we're doing that. That's fine. I'm happy with that. Everyone get used to what's going on and then send them and then go because I know we're not in the cars, it was clear the spray was nothing compared to what it was when we did this first time round. And I, again, I appreciate the drivers that are the ones in the car. They're asking for their opinions, but they're always going to say the spray's bad because
Starting point is 00:33:39 they're in it. They are in the spray, but they're going to keep saying it's sprayy until it dries up. And then what? And it's interesting, you've got, you know, this is not me pointing fingers at anyone here, so please don't come after me. But they asked Oscar Piastri he was in P2 at that point. And he said, well, the spray's still pretty bad on the chemical straight, wasn't it? And then there was a radio from Louis Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It's like, it's basically dry. It's like two lots of experience there, isn't it? Where one driver who's racing is a slightly different era of F1 and a newer one. But yeah, I just, it was so slow. And like you said, 20 minutes, I'd say even more. Like I would be, maybe I'm a bit more, maybe a bit more, a dash for this, but I think they could have gone
Starting point is 00:34:29 as soon as that sunshine came out, I think they could have started sending them around at least for a Colin since lapse at that point, but never mind. I'm sure the FIA will have a look at their actions and do something about it very, very soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It's also that like the, I feel like they were offering, they thought they were offering some sort of like not alternative, but something good with the, oh, but when we do get racing, the cars can be 20 car lengths, whilst the safety cars are. I'm like, great. Great. I'm so, I'm so pleased.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And actually, I think that was worse because then they were accelerating and breaking quite a lot. And I was like, someone's going to plow into the back of another car here. And then look where we are. The safety car will never end. Oh, God. You know what, actually, changing it from 10 car lengths to 20 car lengths has actually changed my mind completely. I think Ben Suleum should be.
Starting point is 00:35:25 reinstated as president later this year. That's done it for me. I just think it's a great idea. It was his idea. That's why he was like, this will get him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm having Ben Suleim as my full support now.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So well done to you. So should we do driver of the day? Yep. Burn my land up. The verdict is in. You're the driver of the day. You're the driver of the day. You're the killer of the day.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I'm going to start by nominating Alex Albin. He was my driver of the day. P6 in that Williams, not too shabby whatsoever. And he was a long way clear of anyone who wasn't in a Ferrari and Mercedes, a Red Bull or a McLaren. Like Liam Lawson is a long way back then in eighth place. Tip for Carlos signs, do the right part of the weekend well. They've essentially got the same result. One of them's led to eight points.
Starting point is 00:36:27 The other's led to three. But yeah, credit to Alex Albin. I thought he was, I mean, George Russell got past him. Sure, that's going to happen. But I thought the rest of the race he managed really well. It was your driver of the day. Yeah, I think that's very fair shout. Album was on my list.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I've also wanted to shout out Pierre Trilly, as he should now be known. My car chishman, nowhere near, point, man. nowhere near. That car is garbage. Oh, it's so bad. As soon as it dried up, they were awful. The size of that rear wing, though, it was like a t-tray. It was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:37:07 But yeah, I thought, again, pretty impressive doing anything with that car. Also, I want to mention Hamilton because I know it was as a fault it was that far down. but I feel and I know he had a really wet setup on but with that wet setup he looked after his tie as well and in the wet made the most of it I mean he took three cars in one lap at one point which was pretty pretty sick
Starting point is 00:37:34 but one I am going to go for is Charles Leclair because I don't think that fry should be anywhere near near the podium in the rain he was holding on for dear life Yeah, and I want to shout that out because I think, and I think it flew under the radar slightly, I think that Leclerb Vestappen battle or defence was superb.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And I think it didn't get enough airtime in terms of what he was doing because you watch it from on board Vestappen or outboard on the track cameras. That Ferrari didn't want to hit an apex, didn't want to do it. It was four-wheel drifting everywhere by the time he got to the end of that first thing. I know I thought LeClau was superb and obviously Piaastri as well. that's like an obvious one but I'll go with Leclair because I just don't think
Starting point is 00:38:21 that fry should have been third. What about the other side of things? Worst driver of the day. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, worst driver of the day and been, worse driver of the day you stuck at driving.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Who have you got for this one? I really struggle with this one because I didn't think anyone was 20 finishes. 20 finishes. I didn't think anyone was particularly crap. I know he got a bit mugged off by the strategy, but Hadjar wasn't particularly quick today.
Starting point is 00:38:56 No, he wasn't. And I know it went downhill because he got caught out with the first stop, but then it didn't go uphill anymore. It went more downhill as it went along. So I'll nominate him, but I feel a bit harsh because there was no one really that stood out particularly. as being really rubbish. I'm also going with Hadjar with an asterisk
Starting point is 00:39:24 because as soon as, yes, he got mugged off by strategy, absolutely. The rest of that Grand Prix, he was so slow to the point where I'm not convinced there wasn't something wrong with that car. When he came into the pits the second time, I wasn't sure if it was just going to be to retire because there was something wrong with the car that we just hadn't heard about.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He was that slow. So if it turns out that there's something, Yeah. Also, because Stroll flew past him on the camel straight and that Aston Martin was slow in a straight line. So I was like, that looks a bit suspect. But yeah, anyway. Yes, that Aston Martin wasn't particularly quick in a straight line as Alonso can probably attest to for the majority of this grower. But yeah, I'll go with Hadjar, but I'm not certain on that one. Big Brain Strat. Are they filled with strategic choices? So maybe a few to choose from.
Starting point is 00:40:40 What have you gone for? Hasmate. What are you doing with Esteban? That was bad, won't it? What are you doing with Esteban? That's my nomination. The last person to change from the intermediates, he comes out in last place and he's about 10 seconds off 19th.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Like, I understand it was, I'm assuming it's because Berman and him were close together. Yeah. Double stack. I think him backing off and double stacking was better than that. It was a terrible call. So I'll nominate that one. Yes, that is an absolutely valid shout.
Starting point is 00:41:20 They should have double stacked there. Or, and maybe all of the teams will be a bit annoyed that no one went for it. There were a few drivers that came in on lap 11, so that was the likes of Holcomburg, Ghazley, Hamilton. and maybe lap 10 was the one, like maybe Hasco lap 10, lap 11 for their two drivers, because as soon as it was really a question
Starting point is 00:41:41 of tire temperature, wasn't it? Like those guys that had pitted the lap before, they came out in a similar spot to the guys that then came into the pits of the next lap, but their tires were up to temp and we saw Holkenberg and Gasley and a few others really take advantage of that.
Starting point is 00:41:56 So, yeah, a rough one from Hass. Mine somewhat relates to that because one driver and one team that got it absolutely right was Nico Holkenberg and Salber, similar to how they got the strategy absolutely right at Silverstone. It saw Holkenberg, who had been somewhat struggling, I think, throughout the weekend. And he managed to go all the way from, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:16 the 14, 15, for wherever he was at the time, into the points directly behind his teammate, or sorry, directly in front of his teammate until they switch positions. A very comfortable knife tent for them. Gasly's nowhere near and he's leading a train with so many cars behind and Salva decide
Starting point is 00:42:34 let's pit him again under no pressure for no reason that's such a valid point I didn't even think about that there's no reason to pit Holkenberg yeah they just gave Alpin a point
Starting point is 00:42:53 just for trying I think but like yeah he made a good effort of getting back through the field as well Hulkenberg. Like, he made overtakes on Lans stroll and Yuki Sonoda and to the point where he was right behind Gassley and Behrman at the end. But he then still would have been like 20 seconds behind Bortoletto, which is where he was
Starting point is 00:43:13 at one point in this grandbray. So Antonelli and Alonzo, I understand the call. Halkenberg. No need. Yeah, like a really good strategy call to put him in that spot. And then they just managed to like put him right back to him. he was as a result of the second call. Not great.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Good. Let's take our second break on this episode. On the other side, oh, you know we're discussing Ferrari. Oh, boy. Welcome back, everyone. We've discussed McLaren finishing first and second, which leads us on to Charles LeClaire, who finished in third place.
Starting point is 00:44:05 His teammate, driver of the day, voted by the fans, Lewis Hamilton, finishing in seventh. A bit of a question going into this weekend as to whether they would find a bit more competitiveness as a result of this long-awaited upgrade of their rear suspension?
Starting point is 00:44:24 They weren't winning. No. Is the answer. Yeah. They were not winning is a good way to summarize that one, Ben. They probably think they were winning. Well, yeah, they maximise the points
Starting point is 00:44:38 and they could for the weekend. Look, I would, I'm going to, again, and I feel like I've even Ferrari, maybe quite a lot of slack here this year. I'm going to just slightly reserve judgment until we get to Hungary. Just see what happens there.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Very different circuit. It's probably going to be drier than this weekend. But just see. But on the face of it, it's done absolutely nothing, nothing. I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:11 they're relative, it's hard, why I'm struggling is because they're relative pace to McLaren. McLaren were miles in front. And it was only taking, you know, a skinny rear wing from Max Verstappen in the sprint. And I think what was quite a superb quality lap from LeCler and obviously a great performance in the race for anyone to be slightly near, but they're so far up the road that
Starting point is 00:45:32 it makes no difference. So it means the gap to them, the relative gap is quite hard to judge whether actually these upgrades are working. My overall takeaway, and again, I'll caveat just a little bit, a reserve a little bit of judgment for Hungary. My overall takeaway is why are you bothering out? Let's stop. Like, give it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 You've tried commendable write it off this year. Maybe they've tried. I don't know. We think they've tried. And yeah, but write it off because there's nothing, there's no, yeah, there's nothing about the upgrades they've been bringing. It has been revolutionary in terms of pace. But what's the point?
Starting point is 00:46:16 This is gone. And that's fine. I mean, it's not great, but it's fine. The big one is 26 on one. So, yeah, I don't, I don't think they're going to be massively happy. And as I said earlier on, I don't, after both drivers tested it or filmed it on their filming day at Magello, the feedback was not overwhelmingly positive, which was a quote I saw, which is, you know, that's not a great place to start with your rear suspension upgrade. again, difficult to judge on a testing day, but it's not produced maybe the results they were hoping for.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And Hamilton, I know he was good in the race today. But Hamilton during the weekend, his pace-wise has suffered quite a lot. And obviously the rear locking thing he had in sprint quality, and then obviously the mistake, I say mistake, but the track limits era in real quality, put him down and hampered his weekend. But overall, that Ferrari's not looked.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I think LeCler was dragging a result of it. I don't think that Ferrari looked particularly great still. I have positives and negatives, surprisingly. Okay, balanced, which is, that's good. What would you like me to start with? Let's go negative first and then end on a positive note. So the negatives. That car is still awful in the way.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It's so bad in the rain. We've seen it in Australia. We saw it last time at Silverstone. And we saw it with specific. Charlie Chal-A-Claher, hustling with a capital, to keep it ahead of Max Verstappen, right? That car is awful in the web. That's one of the main negatives.
Starting point is 00:47:53 The other negative that I wanted to point out is throughout this season, they have really struggled with plankware and the potential for plankware if they don't manage it throughout the Grand Prix. I think one of the hopes of this rear suspension would be that they don't have to deal with that anymore, and they can just go a bit more flat out in these races.
Starting point is 00:48:13 What do we hear like three quarters of the way through this Grand Prix? Lewis Hamilton is lifting and coasting way more than anyone else, which has been the problem all year. So if they haven't solved that, that is a massive concern. Because if this upgrade hasn't solved that, it might just be unsolvable, which is not great news for Ferrari. So that's the easy negatives. there are maybe it's mitigating factors rather than positives,
Starting point is 00:48:42 but I'm going to run with it. Lewis Hamilton couldn't get past Alex album, which I know is a disappointment given you would expect a Ferrari to be able to make its way past the Williams. I'm going to give him a pass on that because, and this is another one of my annoyances with the delay of the race start, we had multiple drivers go for a fully wet setup that were punished for it because we didn't get wet weather running for very long at all.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So Lewis Hamilton made some good overtakes early on in this Grand Prix. A couple of really nice ones into the bus stop chicade, I thought. But then as soon as it dries up, that car doesn't have anything in a straight line. And he is stuck behind Alex Albin, not able to make that move. So I think that is largely setup related. The other positive I did want to mention is they did finish 20 seconds behind Piastri, did Lecler. Not great.
Starting point is 00:49:33 A lot of that was in the first quarter of the Grand Prix. Like LeClau was losing a lot of time in those wet conditions that this Ferrari is not suited to at all. As soon as we got into the dry conditions, it wasn't too bad. Piastri, with his strategy and not knowing whether the mediums would go to the end, I'm convinced that he and McLaren, if they could have got it, would have wanted that safety car gap over LeCler as a bit of an insurance policy if Piastri needed to pit again. So I am not like going to buy, oh, well, Piastri was just managing out front. he could have gone way faster if he needed to.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Sure, there would have been a bit of managing, but I think McLaren would have been keen to get that safety car gap back to LaClair if they could have got it, which kind of tells me that LeClau's pace might have been genuine in P3. It's not like LeClau was catching either of them, but he wasn't massively losing
Starting point is 00:50:23 when we got to dry conditions. So that is the maybe slightly more positive view of this upgrade in what is a sea of quite a lot of negatives. There's little islands of positivity in a massive ocean of negativity Pretty much that is Ferrari in an upshall I'll tell you what though
Starting point is 00:50:46 they scored more points than Mercedes did today George Russell managing to gain one position on his qualifying spot to finish in P5 bit of a lonely race for him really as soon as he made that overtake on Alex Elburn Antonelli though no points yet again what did you make of their two races George Russell I wasn't sure if he was still there
Starting point is 00:51:04 really because he was so lonely out there um i've still going no one's told him it's over still going around um yeah look i think he i think russell got the most out of his race um there wasn't much more in that car and that car didn't look good this weekend i was it's mad isn't it because the mercedes last year they were won two i know one of them got qualified um but that cool we had like cool same for this weekend last year and they were they were not dominant but they were they were quick and this year they were poo-poo so yeah I think Russell did actually quite a good job and
Starting point is 00:51:46 and probably flew under the radar slightly with what he did there I don't think yeah he got back the album I don't think as much more he could have done because I don't think that Mercedes had the pace of the Red Bull or the Ferrari in terms of Vastappan and the Claire Antonelli just I think the summer break is needed um I've seen a lot of people sort of coming down slightly harshly on him and saying that you know it's too soon and he's been shoved into the limelight and I don't think that's particularly fair. I think I think he yes he needs to have a bit of a bit of a turnaround. I think he needs a confidence boost. He's lacking somewhat some of the confidence I think he had
Starting point is 00:52:30 earlier in the season. But today, today was, today was already done after Qualley yesterday. I think that's, that's where this all lies. I know there are obviously
Starting point is 00:52:40 slightly mixed conditions, but how difficult it actually was to overtake. It just meant that it was really never going to happen for Antonelli. I know they did the, they also did the pit lane start
Starting point is 00:52:53 and did the same thing as Hamilton in terms of Alonzo and signs on a wet setup, but obviously they couldn't even using the end because of the stupid delay. So, um, I just think, I just think he needs a little reset. Get,
Starting point is 00:53:09 get hungry out the way. Go away for, have a summer holiday, mate. Have an ice cream and, and come back. Um, come back here for the,
Starting point is 00:53:18 for the next half of the season. So not, not a good weekend, but there's, I've got no doubt that the speed, the speed is there. I don't think this is disastrous. I don't think we should start saying,
Starting point is 00:53:27 oh, it's too soon, blah, blah, blah. Um, I think he just needs, he needs an arm around his shoulder, and I've got full belief that's what Toto will be doing. I'm putting a hat on him, I'm sure. With his massive hand. He just needs a big hand around his shoulder. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Sorry. For George Russell's side of the garage, I was disappointed that, not necessarily in George Russell, but in Mercedes as a whole, that they didn't have more pace when it dried out. Because of all the teams, they're kind of the ones that were banking on it being a dry Grand Prix.
Starting point is 00:54:03 George Russell was lightning quick in the first and final sectors in qualifying yesterday. In fact, he was the quickest driver, purple sectors, sector one and sector three. He was then also the slowest car in the middle sector. So they are hoping for a dry Grand Prix and they kind of got it. They got a three-quarters dry Grand Prix. And as soon as Russell was on the back of Leclair and Vostappen after the pit stops, I was like, okay, given how they've set up this car, he might be able to stick with these.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I don't know whether he'll get past, but he can stick with these two guys. He couldn't. And that was worrying for Mercedes that he dropped back as much as he did. But even so, P5 on a weekend when Mercedes really struggled, that might not be a bad result. From Antonelli's side of the garage,
Starting point is 00:54:49 a couple of things here. Firstly, I think he was probably one of the victims of setting up that car to be far better in wet conditions. he had a pit lane start with a few others. And I don't think it's helped him at all in this Grand Prix. The real telling sign was after his second stop. So Holkenberg had a second stop. So did Antonelli.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Holkenberg flew past Esteban Okon. And Antonelli was directly behind both of those two. By the time they had got to the same point on the next lap, Holkenberg was over three seconds clear of Ocon. and Antonelli is still behind Ocon. He couldn't get past him with how quick that car was in a straight line. He was losing, because he had the fastest lap of the Grand Prix. He had way more pace than he could show,
Starting point is 00:55:37 but he was just stuck behind Esteban Ocon. And that's, I think, largely set up related. I'm not overly concerned with where Antonelli's at. I think the most accurate way I think I can put it is this Mercedes is not quite as good as it was earlier in the season. And whereas, I think, with Russell, if you took two tenths or two and a half temps away of pace from Russell and what he had at the beginning of this season,
Starting point is 00:56:02 that's still good enough for where he's finished today. That's still good enough for fifth. I think with where Antonelli's pace is at the moment, if you take two and a half tens away from where he was at the beginning of this season, picking up P6s quite regularly, that puts him firmly in the midfield battle. And then weird things start to happen like what we saw today. So you're right.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Get an ice cream down, your boy. have a good summer break and come back, well rested. Yeah, I'm also like, I get it. This isn't, you know, this isn't a finishing school F1. It's the, it's the,
Starting point is 00:56:36 it's the pinnacle. But he's, the boys in year one. He's done half a year of F1. I'm like, this isn't, this isn't end of the world stuff, everyone. Let, let him develop a bit. Please. He's so young, he might be in year one.
Starting point is 00:56:52 they have plucked him out of at a year one in school, I'm pretty sure. What about the rest of the midfield? So Liam Lawson scoring some valuable points, four points for eighth place. Gabriel Bortoletto, another rookie who's done quite well here, finishing in ninth for two points,
Starting point is 00:57:09 and Pierre Gazley in his Alpine or tractor, depending on what you want to call it today, scoring one point. Thoughts on how the midfield went and those three drivers scoring points? Yeah, Lawson, again, slightly anonymous race, but I thought very solid. He, unlike his steamette, didn't get screwed over by strategy, but executed his race well.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm not sure why. Yeah, because wasn't he behind him. I was ahead. Yeah. I'm not sure how that's happened, guys. But, even so, at least he executed when he was given the right, the right strategy. So, and I'm glad to see for Lawson, like a couple of, some dependable, couple, of good performances that we were used to
Starting point is 00:57:53 him doing when he was in Visa cash out last year, which is ridiculous. So yeah, solid from him. Bortoletto, I think, continues to like quietly impress. I think he has done, he's probably above expectations
Starting point is 00:58:11 for this year in general. And interestingly, they interviewed whilst we were waiting on Sky, they interviewed Matea Bonotto. And he made the point that whilst the Salba, at the start of the year was, he didn't say this, but it was trying to kill his drivers on every,
Starting point is 00:58:27 every first lap. Bortoletta struggled. And quite frankly, that's fair enough. Again, another rookie, whereas Hoccombeau probably could deal with it slightly better because he's been around the block.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Now that the car's a bit better better for sale, but Bortoletto is able to show his pace. I think, yeah, that's sort of continuing that trend. And yeah, I mean, Pierre Gassley, Yano Gassley, what we want to call him,
Starting point is 00:58:47 ridiculous. Give that man a better car for crying out loud. Like, that's just, It's just not Do you remember Do you remember Bahrain when they had a good car and that was it this year?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah The only time He No one has ever worked harder For one point One point It's ridiculous It doesn't deserve one point
Starting point is 00:59:09 Gasly deserves more than one point That car doesn't deserve one point It deserves minus points It's terrible Yeah And it should have been 11th But thank you to Salber and Nika Holcomberg
Starting point is 00:59:20 for giving him a point today. He did exceptional. He was a contender for driver of the day, for sure, because not only is that car, I think, the slowest on the grid. I'm not sure it's that close. Maybe track to track it will change a bit, but I was pretty convinced that, again, it was as soon as it dried up, he and Colopinto just could not keep up with the guys in front. So for him to, even with that incredibly skinny rear wing, for him to keep his position, I thought was very impressive. Lawson and Bortolato, great jobs from both of them. Lawson, again, I'm not sure why he didn't come into the pits the lap after
Starting point is 00:59:59 because he managed to get priority. So well played. I don't know how you've done it, but well played Liam Lawson. Even so, he was directly behind Isaac Hadjar, but he matched his pace all throughout that first stint. And then as soon as he was kind of released into eighth place, really solid. And after, what was it, the Austrian GP, where he had a really good result as well,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that's a couple of nice performances from Lawson recently. Bortoletto, I agree with what you mentioned with Bonotto's interview, because I think at the beginning of the season, that car was in such a bad spot that Bortoletto was probably being made to look worse than what he was actually doing, and now that car is capable of at least competing with their midfield rivals. He can actually do something. He had to ask the team to get by Nika Holkenberg on the same tire,
Starting point is 01:00:50 same circumstance because he was quicker than him. And he's now out-qualified Holkenberg more times than vice versa. Coming off a year where Hulkenberg absolutely destroyed Magnuson in qualifying in their season at Haas. So I think he's doing a very good job and a well-earned two points here. Let's take our final break on this episode. On the other side, it's Moment of the Race. Welcome back, everyone.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's time for Moment of the Race. Harry, I assume this is going to be the incredibly long delay we had. all 90 minutes of it it was my favourite a few contenders here this one is very sky specific but they were so bored they got a picture of Lewis Hamilton
Starting point is 01:01:49 and Nika Rosberg on a quad bike which was interesting can I just mention something with Nika Rosberg very quickly because he did a grid walk with Martin Brundall and you could just like the inner naughty child in Rosberg just wanted to do everything that Brundle was telling him not to do
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah. The question to Yostrstappen about, oh, now you're quiet. But it's genius. That's perfect. So good. And also he's going after Niko Holpiger, and you can hear Martin Brunel going,
Starting point is 01:02:18 we're not allowed to interview them at 30 seconds. Oh, he's gone. It doesn't matter. Yeah. God love Niko Rosberg on the TV broadcast. Another Sky specific one, and this goes back to what I was saying about the lead commentator, David Croft.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Who is Tired Degradation Cliff? Do you know him? That sent me. I was fuming. Oh, it was so bad. It was so bad. It was almost good. Oh, no, I wrote down another David Croft.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I almost forgot about this. He said something else that really annoyed me today. Oh, it was Esteban Ockon, and they pan to his girlfriend in the pits, who is called Flavvy, saying, Slavie in the pits, savvy on track. What is that? Do you know,
Starting point is 01:03:20 sometimes, not as this sound like Kevin Malone here, sometimes less word Dutrek, just say less. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:31 sorry, so that will go in, but my moment at the race, it's a similar one to, I've had one of her previously,
Starting point is 01:03:37 but, and something happened to Antonelli, I can't remember what the reaction was now, either pit stop or,
Starting point is 01:03:43 Oh, no, no, no. It was, he went for that overtake on Ockon, but overcooked it and went a bit wide and Ocom got him back. And then they paned to another Toto Wolf reaction shot. He's not wearing a flat cap this time, but his headphones, and this will be video early, his headphones are like this. Like on the front of his head. He's just sat looking to sort of pointed with his headphones so far forward. I was like, is he doing this as a, as a game now? was trying to get our moment of the race?
Starting point is 01:04:13 It just really made me laugh. I was like, Toto, it will get better, son. But I can't wait to see which hat he's going to bring out for Hungary. Or I say hat, it could be Toto's head gear, maybe. That's the branching out. Expanding his repertoire, yes. My moment of the race is similar to yours. In fact, it might have been even the same moment that led to this,
Starting point is 01:04:40 to the point where I thought he might have ended up with the same thing. But Antonelli, we know that in his brief career in F1, he doesn't mind being a bit late on the brakes, doesn't mind doing something a little bit wild. To the point where the F1 broadcast at one point in the first, didn't thought he was on mediums when he was very much on intermediate tires. I just thought, yeah, that's what they think of Antonelli, is that he would be on medium tires in these conditions.
Starting point is 01:05:09 why not? That's a classic Antinelli move. Just go for slicks on the rain. Why not? But we do not have just our moment of the race. We also have from our Discord moments of the race as well. If you're in our Discord already and you've submitted or you're thinking about submitting, that's great.
Starting point is 01:05:28 If you're not already in our Discord, the link is in the description. We've got 3.59K people in, that's not 3.599, like 3.5. just 3,590, to be very clear. Chat and F1 in there. So join us, please. But who forgot? We have 0.59 of a person in there. We do.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yes, thank you. As always, everyone, for your submissions. And as Ben said, if you want to get yours in, then join the Discord. First up, we have Obliviously. Hi, it's Lee. My moment of the race was when Ben or King asked chat in the
Starting point is 01:06:11 Discord what is their favourite cake Anywho I got I got a second You asked the Discord
Starting point is 01:06:22 what's their favourite cake Well yeah we were in the we were in the sort of the delay
Starting point is 01:06:28 and I was just like yeah what's everyone's favourite cake people and I kicked anyone from the server
Starting point is 01:06:35 who said carrot Oh well I have to kick me mate I love carrot Oh of course you think A little friend
Starting point is 01:06:42 Oh, bloody love a carrot cake, me Well, that's the end of my Discord membership Nevermind. Join the Discord, I won't be there. Next of is Geekin Cycle. Hey, late Breakers, geek and cycle here. My moment of the race is when Martin and Crofty made a huge deal about Ollie Bearman finishing in 11th place for the fourth time.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Come on, guys, it's 11th place. Join the Patreon. Keep breaking late. I'd like to correct you there, geeking cycle. Martin Brundel made no such big deal. Well, David Croft made such big deal about the being left. He was so excited when he got him,
Starting point is 01:07:25 like on the penultimate lap or something, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, I was, Olly Berber, but I feel sorry for it because he had the setup for the wet conditions and he was really happy about it. He was delighted, wasn't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And then it was just stuck like half a second behind Yuki Sonoda for this entire Grand Prix until the last lap. Oh, well. Lorne from Texas is next. Oh, hello, my late breaking friends from across Lee Big Way. It is I. Norm from Texas, and I'm here to give my moment of the race. And my moment of the race is Lewis Hamilton switching to slicks and driving angry. Oh, from 18th to 7th.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Anyway, keep breaking late. It was good to watch Hamilton In that first stint It's good to watch him pulling moves like that In unusual places Yeah the one into Stavalo The first part of Stavalo On a ghastly, naughty stuff
Starting point is 01:08:23 Next up is Kate Her name says Kate Brackett's also from Texas My moment of the race Was the commentators Desperately trying to make the race seem interesting I know it's your job To try and keep people viewing the channel
Starting point is 01:08:39 but you don't have to lie to us. You don't have to lie. You know, at the end of the season, we give out LB Awards, and one of those awards is Race of the Season. This isn't it? I don't think the Belgian GPs should hold out much hope. No.
Starting point is 01:08:58 It's pretty not going to make the top five, is it? Yeah, probably not. Next up is Hammer Time Lewis. Moment of the race. is reminiscing back to last year's Canada GP the last time a driver had the necessary minerals to go out on a set of full wets and actually pass people on a racetrack. I can't wait for the new regs because I'm assuming new regs mean new tires and maybe between Porelli and these team owners, they can figure out something.
Starting point is 01:09:30 That will actually work as a full wet because I don't know what that was. Keep breaking late. Fingers crossed. I like the phrase necessary minerals. I'm going to start using that more. That's good stuff. Yeah, fair shout. Thank you for that, how much time to us?
Starting point is 01:09:46 Next up is English duck. Quack, quack, late breaking, English duck here from a pond in Patreon City, with the air is warm, the water's crisp, and pints are served to you by Sam Sage on a swan boat. My moment of the race was Crofty refusing to call the last few turns of the bus stop, then calling them the bus stop all day.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Oh, the hills we die on. Quack, duck out. Oh, in it we ask. Oh, the hills we don't. That is, we know where Sam is now. He's in Patreon City, he's serving beers on a, was it a swan boat? Yeah. That's not bad checks out, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:10:21 Nando's big green tractor is next. Hey, y'all, my moment of the race is that it happened. We had fun chat to the Discord, so join the Patreon and the Discord, I guess. But that's about all that happened. Keep breaking late. Can't believe cake chat is going to be the highlight of this race. It was really interesting to get. at people's views.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I now know what a target tuxedo cake is. Explain to me as a Brit. Well, I had no idea either, but I had explained to me it was a combination of cake and moose, which I'm fascinated, but I haven't looked this up, but I'm fascinated by it. How does that work?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. But apparently it's a target exclusive. Well, you know what we're doing. We go to Austin this year. Another trip to get some food. Last but not least is Cronenberg. All right, Cronenberg here, a moment of the race.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I'm just going to keep it simple. Got to give it to my boy Lewis for making up all those positions and just showing what a true champion looks like. Cutting through the field. Really impressive. Shout to Oscar for that Flaus Drive. Really deserves to win this here. Keep breaking late.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I've just read, I mean, a very late moment of the race contender that I don't think has come up. Esteban Ocon and his up and under defense against Antonelli when Antonelli was around the out. So, a nice little move, on it? It was and read him like a book. Yeah. Yeah, it was good stuff from Rochon. Again, thank you very much for all of those moments of the race submissions. There will be another opportunity for submissions in our next episode,
Starting point is 01:12:12 which is on Wednesday. That's our preview for the Hungarian GP. So you can put your under pressure submissions in. Let us know who or what is under pressure going into what is the final race before the summer break. We haven't discussed how we're doing this outro, mate. Oh, this is disastrous as well, because Sam's not here for the next few episodes as well.
Starting point is 01:12:33 We've got a few of these to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yie. We do. Thank you, everyone. Great start. Let's write that down for the next one as well. Good place to start.
Starting point is 01:12:49 If anyone cares, the England women's team have just won the euros again. Have they? Yeah, on penalties as well. We never win penalties. We do now. We do now.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Thank you everyone for listening. I apologise for how this always ends terribly when there's no Sam here, but we appreciate you listening. All the same. If you want to follow us on social media, we have Instagram,
Starting point is 01:13:16 TikTok, X, brackets, Twitter, and most importantly, Facebook, come on. We're going to get up to at least seven followers on Facebook before Sam comes back, we'll holiday. We could have seven or
Starting point is 01:13:32 seven million on Facebook, and I would have no idea which one. Right? I've got no idea. All that exclusive Facebook content that goes on to that page. So yeah, please follow us on there. As we already mentioned, the Discord is available.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Get in there if you want to chat all things F1 and cake. And join the good folk in Patreon City where Sam is on holiday on his swan boat serving beer to the members of Patreon City this week exclusively. So make sure you get there. More great content. We have power rankings tomorrow. again it will just be me myself and ben but i believe sam will submit some uh some verbal power rankings uh for us to to read out so we'll be able to ranking uh performances from this race um
Starting point is 01:14:23 which might be quite tricky to be honest but we'll see uh anything else if i missed anything i think you've absolutely nailed that nice no notes 10 out 10 no notes get uh you cake and less no crumbs um Do I go last on that? I've been Harry Eude, yes. Oh, that means I have to say I'm Ben Hocking. Yes. And you've been Harry E.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I've been Harry Eut. I remember, keep breaking late. Podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.

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