The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2025 Dutch GP Race Review

Episode Date: August 31, 2025

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This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Everyone welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hawking. We're back to reviewing Grand Prix. Dutch Grand Prix happened today and, oh boy, a lot of talking points. Sam, I don't know how this race was going to go with, the threat of rain. in the air that never really materialised,

but the way the race unfolded, plenty to talk about still. Yeah, it always has a air of, could this be an exciting one, could we get some weird action, could be a bit chaotic? And usually when you lose that threat of rain, which we slowly dear,

you think, oh no, it might end up being a bit processional, we might have a problem. No, no, no fear. We're back from the summer break and the Dutch Grand Prix delivered a bucket load of action for us to review.

Harreid, you watched it, sir. Did you enjoy it, sir? I did enjoy it, an enjoyable return from the summer break. It felt like F1 or the drivers in F1 just were quite impatient to get back. It was all a bit chaotic, bit heated, like they'd missed it. So then you said this off record when we started recording. Not a classic, but very enjoyable and quite exhausting. I'm quite tired after that.

Quite exhausting. It's exhausting. Yeah, it's exhausting. Yeah, and as a result of that, we have an absolutely packed schedule that we're going to get into straight away. I'll get the Patreon plug in early because we'll get for as much as we can on today's review.

But if we don't get to your favourite driver, your favourite team, we'll do our best, but we cover absolutely every driver in our power rankings review that we do on a Monday after a Grand Prix. We rate all the drivers out of 10. So if you want to get the full first to 20th of coverage, we do that on that episode.

The link is in the description. But let's start with the fight out front. Oscar Piastri, claiming victory, ahead of Max Verstappen, and then Isaac Cadjar, claiming his first podium in third place. Of course, Lando Norris looked on course for second place until his McLaren, or whether it was his engine or his car, who knows? Either way, it said no, and he walks away with no points here, where his teammate ends up with 25.

Let's start out front, Sam, Piastri, Grand Slam on this occasion, fastest lap, led every lap, had pole position. How impressed were you? by such a dominant performance at a weekend where he didn't get a podium last year, where his teammate took a dominant victory. Yeah, his first ever, Formula One Grand Slam, first time his ever leg a race from start to finish. And it always felt like it was under control from Oscar Piastri.

He never seems to have it easy when he gets out front. Similar to Spain, for example, safety car gets thrown there as well. It looks like he always has to rebuild the lead once he finally gets it. Starts well, gets off the line, not as well as his teammate, but that's the bonus of being on pole position. You've got that little bit of extra tarmac to play with. He gets over to cover, I think, fairly, which opens the door for Max Verstappen.

And I weirdly think, I don't know if that was intentional or not, by shutting Landon Norris into the inside and allowing Max Verstappen around the outside, quite a clever tactic, because it means that he essentially gets to build a gap over a slower on softer tire, Max Verstappen, whose tires are going to degrade faster,

and he starts to pull away the gap. Now, fair play to Landon Norris, who dispatches of Max Verstapcher's, Max Verstappen really, really well, really, really quickly when the first five or six laps. And the gap starts to come down again. But it was all so well measured, all so nicely managed from Oscar Piastri. Once again, it's almost a big of the trademark of his. It felt like he was never under massive pressure and never felt like it was going to come under threat.

There was only one moment in the entire Grand Prix where Landonor S manages to get into Oscar Piastri's DRS zone. Every obstacle that was throwing his way, threat of rain, another safety car, you know, more rain, more safety car. more safety cars. He just handles it again. Every pit stop, done with complete calmness. This was just fantastic from Oscar Piacery, the true mark of a champion and once again showing why he is able to lead this field. He is a talent that is really coming into his own. I'm so impressed and he delivered a sublime Grand Prix after what looked to be a tricky start to the weekend before qualifying began. Never looking to have the better of his teammate in practice. Doesn't matter. You don't score points on the Friday and the Saturday. You're doing on the Sunday.

count. Harry, this was a stat that was mentioned on air, at least on the Sky Sports commentary, that whenever Lando Norris has managed to get within 10 points of Oscar Piastri and the championship so far this season, Oscar Piastri has responded with a victory. Now, of course, that championship lead that we'll get to in a little bit has extended out a lot more than nine points after what happened to Lando Norris in second. But how impressed were you with what happened in Hungary? Piaastri comes back and answers yet again with such a good.

performance. Yeah, as super press with Piestri and the response from it, he is becoming the king, the master of just being ahead of when he needs to be. It doesn't matter if he, as you mentioned, Sam, Norris had every practice session covered and maybe it seemed like Piazsche was on the back foot, but it's completely irrelevant because come the end of Q3, Piusi was on top by the smallest of the margins. metaday, but it was on top. And then for now and he's been able to control this race.

As you said, I mean, it wasn't the greatest start, but he's on pole. He covered it off nicely. And enough to actually disadvantage Norris to that Vostappen eventually got past him. And then when Norris was back past Vastappen and was trying to pressure him, you're right. He never really looked like it was, he was going to crack or he was under any real pressure. Obviously, Zandvorts a tough track to overtake at. But, you know, lots of mistakes were made throughout the weekend, but today as well. And I think, I think Piastri could have easily made one of those mistakes.

We had a bit of rain in the air, debris everywhere on the track today. So, yeah, again, really impressed by how he handled that and how he, how he's, you know, answered back after a run of success for Norris. So it seems like just the easy thing to say now being impressed by Oscar Pistri. but it was super impressive once again, and he's so chilled about it afterwards, which is even more impressive. So a good start to the second half for him, for sure. I often think when it comes to race winners in this sport,

the more dull a race win is likely the better it was for the winner. We think fondly of, say, the Schumacher years and how great he was, and he was brilliant across those years. But if you look at like 2000 to 2004, when he won his five consecutive championships, there aren't many classic races in that time period because a lot of the time,

Schumacher is just out front doing what he needs to do and no one really is able to touch him. That's kind of the race win that we got from Piastri today. I'm not saying it was a bad race, but out front, Piastri just had this managed from the off where you didn't feel like there was really any threat, even with the multiple safety car restarts, even with being on hard tires towards the end where Vastappen was on softs, even with Lando Norris once he'd cleared Max Vastappen being able to

make a little bit of progress on Piastri's lead, you never really felt like this was in danger. As soon as Lando Norris got by Max Verstappen quite early on in the race, I think it was four and a half seconds was the gap between Piastri and Norris when that overtake happened. Norris managed to make a second of that up pretty quickly to like three and a half seconds. Then it just stayed there. And Piastri was effectively managing an undercut gap for the rest of this Grand Prix. It wasn't easy for him, but he made it look easy. And that's a mark of Piastri that we're seeing very regularly these days.

So very impressed by Piastri. Again, when you get to the point of you run out of superlatives for a driver, that shows that they're having a very good season. And we've reached that point with Piastri. Something else on I want to comments on, which is a credit to Piastri and to Norris, but also more of a credit to McLaren. That MCL 39 this year is just a beast. It is a behemoth. I know they had the tire advantage after Norris got passed for Stappen,

but the way they just dropped Max Verstappen, I think it was something like 13 laps. He was 10 seconds behind them at that point. It's such a huge deficit in pace around a trap like this, that they can manage to create such a beast when it comes to a down for. and it's so difficult with this ground-effect cars to have a smooth ride that is sustainable, that doesn't throw you off at any point. And so many other teams have struggled with the consistency in that level.

And yet McLaren time and time again this season just seems to be going to go above and above, and beyond. And it's the gap that they've forged between themselves and those behind them, especially around tracks like this, is just incredible, a great engineering feat. Moving on to Lando Norris. Now, the only bit of jeopardy prior to the retirement that we had for not, Norris was very early on in this Grand Prix where Max Verstappen was able to get second, at least temporarily, away from Lando Norris.

Harry, what did you make of the move from Vestappen, the re-overtake that happened from Norris a little bit later on, and then how Norris did from there? I had to go and have a shower immediately after seeing that move from Max Verstappen. It was so dirty. You knew as soon as it was revealed that Vastappen was starting on soft tires, he were like, oh boy, he's going to try and do something here. And I mean, he gave it a good go to term one to try and get the lead.

But yeah, that move was superb on what was a very dusty, offline bit of the circuit to hold on to that. So I'm not entirely sure how he did, but to hold on to the slide, but also still got the overtake done is outrageous from Vastappen. And then I was equal almost. not equally, but almost as impressed the way Norris came back at him. Obviously, you know, mark him down for being overtaken at the start.

But he was sort of pinched in by his teammates, there was much he could have done. And then when he did rock up to the back of Vestappen, something we talked about so much, at least at the second half of last year, when he was battling Vestappen. He just rocked up and nailed the overtake straight away. Like there was no half moves, no sort of trying to dart out.

He just rocked up. I know the car is superior versus the Red Bull, but he started to get the move done at a track at a, you know, a race this afternoon that was really tricky to overtake at. And he nailed it immediately. So I was really impressed by, I was really impressed by Norris doing that because I think that's something we have critiqued him on before,

and I think probably fairly so. But not this time. He was clinical. And it's something we've, It's praise that's praise we've put on his teammate a lot. And it's something, hopefully, Norris is going to bring more into his repertoire. So kudos to both on that one.

Yeah. I echo your thoughts on the first lap move from Verstappen. Oh, boy, that was good. That was so good. That one got me out of my seat. That was tremendous and equal parts frustrating because Red Bull why will you not give this guy a car that he can fight with? This championship fight would be so much better if he was just in the mix.

And he's not quite because of what we saw today, right? Even though he claimed second place, he can pull off this incredible move. The commitment that he needed on that move was sublime. And yet it ultimately didn't matter because Lando Norris was able to get by. And if he didn't get by then, he'd have done it the next lap or the lap after that. And it was inevitable. From Lando Norris's perspective, the re-overtake that he'd done on Vostappen, very good. Going into that move, I was like, you're going to go around the outside of Vastappen around

that corner where he could leave you no room whatsoever? I don't know about that. But fair play to him. He judged it perfectly and it worked. And from there, I think Norris had comparable pace with Piastri. I think this was probably one of those that whoever was in the lead was going to win this one. I don't think Piastri would have overtaken Norris. if they were that way around.

And equally, even though Norris did close up a little bit towards the end, I didn't think Piastri was in any danger. So, yeah, credit to Norris for getting back into this and unfortunate for him, what happened thereafter? Sam, what were your thoughts on Norris? And maybe take us into the DNF discussion as well. I mean, with Norris, it was so frustrating because he handled that battle with Vastappen with such confident, such maturity.

you could see how well he's developed and grown season after season, especially in that will-to-will combat. We so regularly gave him criticism last year because he was unable to get moves done on Max Verstappen that were decisive and able. You're right. The idea of going around the outside on Max Verstappen, where there's no runoff zone,

and realistically, with the current rule set that we have, and we're going to get on to discuss this, that you're allowed to drift out, essentially. If you're not fully alongside going around the outside, you don't have a right to be there in the current world of Formula One. Max didn't do that. He actually played it incredibly fairly, left exactly a car's width,

but full credit to Landon Norris for sticking his McLaren, deep inside that one car's width space. That was on the exit of turn one, because that's brave. That is brave, especially with the previous experience that those who have had going wheel to wheel together. Great, great move.

Now, after that, you do see the gap start to come down and you think, okay, is Piastri managing, has Piastri's ties slightly gone from kicking off early and wrong in this race? to the first couple of laps. Does it mean that Norris has maybe now got the advantage? It quickly comes to our ideas that maybe they balance out, right? The gap comes to about three, three point two seconds.

You start the safety cars to run through. And that's kind of how it feels the whole way through this Grand Prix. Every time that Norris pushes, Piaastre reacts. It's always like it's in hang. So whilst it is truly devastating for Landon Norris and a real kick for the championship fight, it has opened this up completely now. It's going to be a real uphill fight for Landon Norris

over the next. nine Grand Prix, I don't think Landon Norris was getting that move done. I do not think that Landon Norris was beating Oscar Piastri around Zambort here today. I do think that the qualifying was a massive win for Piastri at these time of tracks. And so even if they had measurable pace and I think they were pretty much bang on equal with each other, even if they ran all the way to the end, unless Piastri actually makes a mistake on the track, which I can't see him doing right now, I can't see Norris making the move. So unfortunately, instead of it being a 16 point gap in the championship, which I thought it might be, it's now a 34 point gap in the championship. And that's

tough because you look at how bulletproof this McLaurang is, you know, this being the first year and after either of them, either of them have had through mechanical failure. It basically means if you look at a seven point swing for each Grand Prix, Norris gives five race swings in a row now over Piastri, if they're going to have one two's every time, to bring that gap back to a one point lead for himself. So that gives him four races to play with for any mistakes. And the moment Piestri beats him any of them, it sets him back another Grand Prix. This has come at a perfect moment for Piaastri and a huge monumental blow for Norris right at this point, X in the summer break, especially when we praised him so heavily for the momentum that he carried into that summer break after

taking three of the last four race wings before we had that summer break. So this is devastating for Norris because his pace was good, his race was solid. He could have dealt with a 14 point out, a serious 16 point gap. 34 is really tough, unless a D&F comes to Piascrib. way. What about the rest of the podium? Let's start with Max Verstappen. Harry, we saw that it seemed like for Stappen and Red Bull strategy today was

we're just going to put on slightly softer tires than McLaurad and see if that works. Obviously not enough to claim the win here, but it is a return to the podium. What did you make of his day? Yeah, a really good race by Vistappen. I know some of the driver of the day voting was going towards him

and I think that was very fair I think it probably went under the radar obviously the move we spoke about on lap one was sublime and yeah you're right they just sort of they tried something different with it and I think it was worth a shout

and in the end with the amount of you know safety cars or VSEs and the restarts they had to do it was worth doing because there were quite a few times where he was able to fire up those tires quicker than the two McLaren's in front it ultimately didn't make a difference in the end but it was worth

doing. But also on the flip side, they then gave him the tougher job of having to manage softer tires for every stint he did versus those around him, which I think that in itself deserves some praise because I think he did a pretty mighty job with that. I know he had had jar not that far away from him the whole time,

and the fact that it's tough to overtake probably helped him out. But yeah, I thought it was a really good drive by this happen. And I think a welcome return to the podium for sure. he will be sad to have missed out on the win, I'm sure of it. But I don't think he can complain, but Peter, I think that's probably even better than they expected today. Yeah, I was highly impressed with what Vastappen was able to do this afternoon, particularly because strategically they were thinking differently to McClare.

It's not like you've got too many strategic options around Zambor. I know there was discussion of one stop versus two stop, but I think the way the safety cars played out kind of did the strategy work for them. So the only thing they could do really was try some softer tires, see if they could spring a surprise on McLaren on one of these safety car restarts. Like you say, it doesn't work, but it's worth a go. But for a team that hasn't necessarily done a brilliant job on tireware so far this year, we have seen a few occasions where they've kind of struggled with that.

It was encouraging, I thought, to see that Vastappen could keep those tires alive quite comfortably into the stints, particularly the soft tire on the first stint, I thought, it wore quite quickly for some of the other drivers that started on the softs. Verstappen kept his position well after the Norris overtaker was done and dusted. It's not like he faced pressure from behind from, obviously, Hadjar was directly behind, but Ferrari or Mercedes either. So I thought that was a good sign for them. I kind of want to challenge that a little bit, actually.

I think that Hadjar was the cork in. the bottle for for stappen. I think that LeCler was faster. I think he had better pace. I think that if he had clean air without Hager in the way, I think that Ferrari would have been able to challenge Max Verstappen, especially with the strategy they were going down. I think that the way that LeCleur was essentially all over the back of Hager for lap after

lap after lap. And Russell, once he got going, wasn't too far off either. And then, of course, the damage ship plays. I do think that protected Max Verstappen, who did a great job, August off the size, and they had won. And I do think that was more strategy than Max Verstappen's ability. but I think that Hajjar essentially protecting him, who had a fantastic race who drove so well,

keeping LeCler behind for as long as he did, essentially meant that Verstappen was able to drive quite a calm race without being pressured from behind. We'll take our first break on this episode, but that man, Hajar, he will get his flowers right after this. Welcome back, everyone. We've covered off the race winner, Oscar Piastri. I mean, he's won plenty of races so far this year.

We don't care about that. We've covered off Max Verstappen. He finished second. He's finished on the podium countless times in his career. We don't care about that because we only care about one thing. And that is the driver that finished third. For the first time in his career, Harry, hit the music. So, Isaac Adjah managed to claim his first podium,

or as Harry rightly said before the start of this episode, Isaac Hadjar claimed his first podium and his first ever race. What did you make of his race? So he was due a P4 anyway without the Lando Norris retirement that I think was going to be just as impressive. But yeah, got a bit of an added bonus with that retirement and on the podium. Yeah, you got a little promotion there at the end. But this is one of those races where you can't give the credit to anywhere else. But Isaac, Isaac Hajjar, Jamjar, Dor Hajjar, I know what we're calling him.

But the boy deserves all the praise in the world because this was entirely on him. He qualified there and he finished essentially there. You've got that Norris retirement which elevates him. But he holds off for Claire. He holds off Russell, Hamilton behind. You know, those guys that are so experienced, all race winners, of course, behind him. He's in his first season. He's still a rookie.

And whilst throughout the first half of the year, I gave him a lot of praise of kind of being maybe the rookie of the year so far, he's going ahead and delivered in a racing balls car that does not deserve to be there. But P4 in qualifying, P3 in the race, his race management was phenomenal. or the tyres never seem to wear off. There are a few instances where he managed to just dip inside the DRS of Max Verstappen, which is no mean fee.

That's so difficult to do in the sister car. Now, we've all joked saying that maybe Max Verstappen could go on to win a race in that racing ball and maybe it's slightly easier to drive than the Red Bull. But that's Max Verstappen. Isaac Hager is what, 15 races into his F1 career. And this was a performance to be proud of. I'm so glad he's picked up this podium in his first year. It just shows you what he has got to give Formula One.

Just Red Bull, just slow down. Don't promote him before Monsa. Please let him have the rest of that season before you make any changes to how that team works. Savage that has got his first step on pony before Yuki Sanooga has as well. But yeah, an incredible performance entirely given to himself by himself, not by anyone else. Well done, Isaac Hajjar. Isaac Hajar, again, we'll work that off air what we're actually going from now on. But you deserve all of the flowers today, my friend.

Driver of the day, sensational. Rizler, mate. Turn your phone off. Turn your phone off. Because if you see a call from a certain doctor, you know what he's going to want, all right? So that's great. I was thinking more Dr. Helmut Marco, but I hear Dr. Dre and Isaac Adjar are actually really close. So who knows? Harry, what did you make of Hadjar?

Yeah, super impressive from Hadjar. And, you know, like Piastri on Saturday, a lot of the hard work was done with that superb lap to get to P4 in the first place. But yeah, once he was in the race, I fully expected the likes of Russell, LeCler, and co to get past him eventually, maybe not immediately.

But his, you know, again, I know it's very difficult to overtake today, but his pace was really good. And he was able to stay with, well, pretty close to Vastappen for the majority of that race. Kept it clean. There are a few sort of attempts from Charles

Lecler that he didn't, you know, didn't crack under. that pressure. And obviously then when Norris's engine or whatever went wrong with Norris's car, when that happened, he took full advantage. I think after that point, I was almost more impressed because that's another safety car restart to do. You've got some people behind you that really want a podium in the form of Russell and

go. He didn't crack at all. So, yeah, super impressive from Hajar. His very impressive first rookie year continues. This will be the cherry on the, on the, cake, but I think, yeah, as you said, Sam, I don't think you can say he was lucky in this sense because he got himself into that position by being so quick on the Saturday and then having great pace today. So yeah, be careful. Be careful, be careful, Hajar, because you're in

real danger of being promoted to Red Bull. The only promotion that nobody wants. No, please don't. I don't know. Don't do it. He's in my fantasy team as well. So that made me very happy. Good points for you there. We'll get on to Ferrari. bit. Speaking of fantasy. Yeah, it was an excellent performance from Hadjar, to the point where I know he'll get more adulation as a result of finishing third and on the podium for the first time. If he had finished fourth, he deserves just as much respect. And it was a genuine, it was on course to be a genuine fourth. Like both Ferraris were, at least for part of this Grand Prix in the fight. You know, the Mercedes were both there. There were,

the opportunities for these drivers to get overtakes done on Hadjar. And we asked yesterday, Sam, in the qualifying review, would he be able to hold up any of these drivers? And I think we probably landed on no, at least not the two Ferraris and maybe the lead Merck. But he did. And he did so, I don't want to say comfortably, because LeClo was there for a good chunk of that first stint. But equally, it's not like they were side by side for any corners.

Hadjar did have that in hand for a good chunk of that race. So, and even with, you know, he didn't drop off the back of Vastappan either. And even with the pressure from behind, I know LeClera to lift and coast a little bit after being stuck behind him for a little while. But yeah, I don't have much more to add than both of you. It was an excellent performance and a much needed one after some tough races. Ferrari, we've waited long enough to get on to you. Oh, boy.

Oh, we're so back. but also we were there anyway. Double DNF for Ferrari. The icing on the cake is that LeClaire pit the lap before Lewis Hamilton D&F, which caught in the position. Should we start with the first DNF, which was Lewis Hamilton, came a cropper at turn three, went into the barriers, first retirement of this Grand Prix. Sam, we don't often see from Lewis Hamilton these unforced errors that lead to retire. but not a great one. He was having a good race.

He was there or thereabouts. I'm not saying he was beating LeCler or anything, but it was a solid race for Lewis Hamwitton. He needed one because he's been having the doghouse with Roscoe recently. And this was almost a rookie style error. It drizzled a little bit, gets onto some paint,

which famously around these racetracks where they get a little bit cooler, a little bit damp. They can be very slim. We saw it. They all did something very similar in Hockingheim in 2018 when they all went skating on the outside of the drag strip. There's no grip out there when it gets wet

and they all used to just drift off. And Hamilton essentially doing exactly that here. He got caught up a little bit too high on the paint, understairs out. It's a really lazy accident. It ends up just drifting into the end of the tire barrier where they've got a little safety road tucked in behind there. Really sloppy, really silly.

Unfortunate, you could tell in the radio in the interview afterwards, that he was really frustrated with himself. He almost doesn't even blame the wet paint, but I do think that was the cause of it. Yeah, a real shame. And then to the fact that without even realizing goes on and directly damages his teammates' Grand Prix because he was someone who went to do the undercut.

After Hamilton, who just voiced how powerful the undercut is, and they need to make it to try and get out a heck of the guys around them. So they do it with the Claire first, managing to ruin not only his own race, but then the Clare's chance at beating the likes of Russell and Hajjar in front of him. It's just so Ferrari. If you could write a one-lap moment, this is so Ferrari.

Yeah, sloppy, a shame. Let's hope that the bounce back truly happens when he goes to Monsa for the first time as a Ferrari driver. Good, wouldn't it, Harry? Yeah, good. We are so back or so still here. It's probably what we should say. I congratulations on pulling off the anti-Singapore 2008 strategy,

which do the opposite. You can't even do it right. You crash before the safe. Before the pit stop. Yeah, it was a, I said this to you, Ben, before we start recording, you don't often see that. And then you pointed out that actually Hamilton did it in front of us at Cota last year. But it is still quite a rare occurrence for Lewis Hamilton to make an unforced error

and crash out of an F1 race. And more frustrating, I think more frustrating than that Cota example, you're right, I think he was having a, pretty good weekend. I think it's the closest he's been to Lecler qualifying at football pace-wise in a while and he was sort of stuck behind Russell but I think I think it at least would have got past him

so who knows where he would have gone after that but yeah just a just a frustrating wrong for for him I think it's more frustrating the fact that he did have some good pace there because yeah that's it's not the bounce back after

the summer break he needed and yeah obviously the the double wound is the fact that it then really hurt LeCler, who had just made a stop. But it's okay because it went fine for LeClaire later on. That's all good. The phrase double wound is only

ever up pickable to Ferrari. I've ever said that line ever. Of course it's about Ferrari. The double wound. Oh, the double wound. Scarlet blood pouring out of the double wound. Double points zero. Double wounds. Success.

Yeah. Oh, God, Ferrari. It is so typical that LeCleur did stop the lap before. And the whole team radio concerning Hamilton and tyres feel good. Can we think about doing something strategically different? Well, that's different. I'm not sure it's going to get the job done for you, mate. It's obviously we've started to get a little bit damp around this point.

And you wouldn't have bettered against like one driver making, something of an error in those conditions. I didn't think it would be Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton, who's been in this sport for nearly 20 years and has won seven world championships. It was uncharacteristic. It was a poor error. The good news for him is,

does it matter that much? Because, okay, he's more likely to be a more distant sixth in the championship now versus Lecler. So what? It doesn't really matter. and I actually think there are positives that he should be taking away from this weekend that you've both referenced. He was there with Charles Lecler. Obviously, there was a car's gap between them in George Russell because of Lecler getting an overtake done at the start. But other than that,

half a attempt separating them in qualifying when Hamilton did look a little bit stronger. In the race itself, Hamilton was putting pressure on Russell before I'm sure he was told to Lifting Coast after lap two. So it was a little bit better. And I think he can take that to Monza. I hope he does rather than how it ended. It was an awful error, but equally, it's probably cost him a fifth or a fourth place. It's for a guy that's won as many races as he has, it's not the end of the world. And what you said earlier is correct, Harry.

It didn't end up just being Lewis Hamilton. It did also become Charles Leclair. Before we got to the DNF, though, he had a bit of a ding-don battle with George Russell. Sam, what did you make of the move from LeCler? Oh, spicy, isn't it? Hot and spicy. I really don't know.

I've watched it back a few times, and there is foul play from both sides, in my opinion. He's going around the outside, and again, we know what that means. You have to be what your front axle has to be. as far along as their wing mirror to be entitled to space or something like that. He's right there. He's right up alongside, but he does then complete part of the move with all four ties off

the road. And that is illegal. And I like that the FIA, he didn't really bother to up. The shoes are giving him really bothered to him. Look at it. Vegas can and went, well, it's scoted. And then he crashed and they went, ah, put that out of the thing. You don't worry about that one.

I would argue that he'd probably should have given the place back. I love how elbows out he was. Absolutely love. He was like, I am coming. through, get out of my way. I want more of that. I really enjoyed that. I do think if he kept even a centimetre of his tyre on that white line, he'd be entitled to that place. I actually think the move will be fair. I don't mind a little bit of rubbing when racing, but unfortunately, because he left the track, for me, that's the problem. He left the track and therefore

isn't entitled to complete the move that he began whilst being off track. So, yeah, in theory, give the place back, but I'm absolutely here for the move. Absolutely here for it. A fair move or not, Harry. I am here for it and if they had to give him a penalty I'd have torn the FIA down that was it the final straw was it that would have been

that would have sent me over the edge I believe it was I'm by policy if I missed quite this but I think it was Nate Saunders on who he's come on Nate come on but he said this

he was like if if they put a penalty in the Claire like we might as have just stopped this motor racing malarkey like they're just going around in circles and not pass each other ever because what we, like you said, Sam, I think there, it was argy bargy,

I think there was, you know, you can, you can make complaints on both sides here. But it's a fair, it's a fair lunge by Leclair. He's got pretty much fully alongside. I know that's quite a one-line corner. So then Russell is, you know, he may not be seeing him. When he does see him, it's all like a bit, bit of, you know, wheel-banging.

he does he does then eventually give him a bit more spate he has to because he's coming through I just I'm like I it was it that's exciting to watch I don't want that to then result in oh no you need to give the place back because what's the point in that so yeah all

all fair game in my view and I'm glad I mean the fact that look like I had to retire for it to not be penalized is pretty that's quite a serious way to get rid of that but yeah I enjoyed it so please more of that in the future. I don't want people to be running people off the road. We don't want that. But that was, like you said, Sam, a bit of rubbing is racing. Yeah, I kind of landed on,

I don't think LeCleur was entitled to any space there, because whilst he is side by side in the corner, he isn't in the breaking zone. Like, he has to seriously break late. By the time Russell's already breaking, he is ahead of Lecler. So I think Russell is entitled to run him off the road. The problem is Russell doesn't quite run him off the road. road. Like, he does half a job, but doesn't finish it. So I'm okay with the move sticking, but I also would have been okay with George Russell just telling him, nope, you ain't coming by it, mate, and just putting him in the gravel. If you're going to, I'm not against drivers trying these late overtakes, but if you are trying a late overtake, I don't think you are entitled to

the room. I think you have to be side by side entering the, like, into the breaking zone in order to be entitled to the space, which I don't think LeClau. was. But hey, Russell didn't properly force him off. So LeCler took the opportunity. It's amazing how that's changed, isn't it? You think about Monsor turn one and some of the moves that we've had down there where a car will be like a full car length in front going into the corner, but someone like Ricardo or Hamilton on Riking will have sent it from a postcode back and they have been given the room by the driver they're overtaking. And it's an amazing overtake. Just feels like you can't do that anymore because you'd be allowed to just

drive into them because they weren't near you by the apex. And that's just the way Formula One works which is a shame. Yeah, I just think we then get to, like, Kyle Larson at turn one at Indianapolis where, you know, I got to the apex first, like, sure you did, but you had to break, like, stupidly late to get there. Anyway, that wasn't the end of Charlotte-Clau's race. That came as a result of the other Mercedes driver, Kimmy Antonelli.

A bit of a dramatic crash. Sam, was it a fair penalty for Antonelli? Oh, Kimmy. It's like Russell was like, you got that radio, by the way, when they had to swap places. And they're like, George, can you swap places with Kimmy? Sorry. Who are you talking to?

Do you know who I am? Have you got the right guy here? Poddle. But, Sear, I don't think you're going who I am. No, no do it, George. It was almost like, Kimmy was like, I'll get him for you. I'll get him. It was such a rookie, rookie, the state this was,

completely misjudged the way. the car will go through the corner, the angle of which the car will go through the corner, swipes up that banking at a really awkward angle to try and get a beggar run out of the car. I'm assuming he's trying to almost go back around the top of him once the clerk comes down, the banking again. And it just completely mistimes it entirely on Kimmy Antigelli. And unfortunately, I'll race for it actually look like it was coming back to him. He might score some solid points for the first time.

In a long time, it just goes the other way. Completely justified. Penalties entirely right. Kim Antigley full 10 second. Hegelty, he wipes the car out of this Grand Prix. Yeah, entirely on him. There is nothing else anyone could have done. This is all his fault, unfortunately.

Yeah, blatant penalty. Can't argue with it whatsoever. The only thing I would say, and I know I understand why it's being classed as a rookie error, there are other rookies that aren't making these errors as much as Antonelli is. Like, I'm not seeing Hadjar and Bortoleto make these errors as much as Antonelli is. like we've obviously got the Austrian GP first lap one as well recently. I'm not saying these other rookies are completely blameless and haven't done anything wrong all season.

But I think rookie error only takes you so far. Are we past that, you think? Are we past where we should be calling that a rookie error? Now that's just bad driving. It is bad driving. It can be both. But I just, there's a limit on how many rookie errors you can have because not all rookies are making the same number. Rivera's put it that way.

Harry, what did you make of the incident? He gave it a good go. A good go. That was an attempt. It reeks of something you'd do if you were playing the F1 game. I think Andrew is, though, isn't he? With some of his life. That's what he thinks he's

doing. It's like, yeah, you've just been the undercutter's not working, you're just really annoyed, so you'd go for a lunch. but luckily you can rewind in the F1 game whereas here it's real F1 there's no rewind button I would definitely just to you on the F1 game and have

this is what I mean this is what I thought of I was like this would be something we would do if we were playing the F1 one game together so yeah it was it was frustrating from Anthony just because it was working out well as you said

I know he had Russell had to let him pass because of the damage he had but the race was turning out well from and I think just having that solid result would have been good and you're right, it does I know you can only go so far and saying it's a rookie error when other rookies

are maybe not making as many as he has done so far but it is it is like the the desperation and the hunger to just get another place that you would imagine or you expect a rookie driver to have when it when you know a more experienced driver like a russell would be like well is this move worth

what we're going to gain if it's for the win it's different but what they're gaining there is not it's not even for a podium at this point so it's um it's those sort of a judgment calls that that yeah i think you you know you can put it down to being a rookie be right i don't think that's that should be an excuse so it was a frustrated one especially wiping out lecler who'd had a tough day and I think whose pace was superb today and it probably goes unnoticed. But, yeah, a frustrating one for him once again. And with that, we will go to our second break. On the other side, we've still got Driver of the Day,

worst driver of the day, big brain strat to cover off, as well as an incident between Carlos Sines and Liam Lawson. Can't wait to get into that. Oh, boy. Welcome back, everyone to the third part of today's review of the Dutch Grand Prix. and we'll now get into some of the midfield scraps, Carlos Sines versus Liam Lawson at one point was a fight for some pretty good points in this Grand Prix. And the way that this race unfolded with some of the big hitters going out, either one of these drivers could have been looking at something like a fall for a fifth place finish,

if not for contact between Carlos Sines and Liam Lorson. Carlos Sines given a 10 second time penalty as a result of the contact. Sam, do you agree with the penalty or disagree? Oh, I feel like this one's going to be a sensitive topic. In the eyes of the stewarding law in Formula One, he's not entitled to the room, hence why I understand why Carlos Science has been giving a penalty. In my opinion, what a load of horse crap, absolute parl of manure this is. Both drivers, I think, were to blame here. Liam Lawson washes out with understanding. steer doesn't really leave enough racing room. Carlos Sykes has kind of stuck his

nosing a bit too late. It hasn't fully committed going around the outside. But in a world where Carlos Sines is entirely to blame for this one is a world where I don't want to be because it's stupid. I don't like any sense. I understand where the penalties come from. I do. I get what the Stewart is doing. It has applied the rule of. You've got fully alongside you're entitled to the room. Therefore, he has caused the collision. Fine. I get it. I hate it. I get it. Yeah. So for me, I wouldn't have given a penalty to Carlos Sites for this one, but I do understand why the stewards have given a penalty. Harry, do you agree or disagree?

The only way I understand it is because I know that the stewards are morons. That's how I understand why they've given this penalty. You've highlighted it perfectly, Sam, in the way that you said that in the eyes of the law or the F1 law, that's how they've applied this penalty but that's because the law it sucks and it's flawed how what why

how do we I get the opinion that you know Carl Sines is not fully alongside here but there should be some common sense and logic Liam Lawson you can't just expect Carlos Sines to disappear fine if you're saying what he's not fully alongside

so I'm entitled to the to the corner yeah fine but you can't just make him disappear out of thin air I this is so frustrated I don't I wouldn't put it down to either driver I did go on racing incident 100% I just this this is what frustrates me

so much about the sport at the moment is that are these rules sets that we're having to race to because yeah you're not you it's just stopping it's stopping racing I know this was an incident ended up as an incident but then when we talk about LeCler and Russell this is where you get into discussions about is it fair or?

or not. And I just don't, I don't, I don't believe that's healthy for this sport. But yeah, why Carlos Signs got 10 seconds? I love the idea, by the way, about him marching up with some Williams, like, heavies to the stewards. Like, we're going to have a little word with them, right? William's steam baseball bats. You, me, have a little chat after the race. I think blue would come down the side of it. I'll tell you what, they are going to have to go to the stewards in person, though, because there's no way they can do it over their radio that they use.

Why will they not invest in something? What do you mean, Ben? God damn it. Are you telling them it's not crystal clear quality? You're an F1 team. Do better. I've probably lost it in the Excel spreadsheet. Fair, yeah. James Larson is cutting cost. Yeah, I'm super frustrated by this one. I don't, I feel really sorry for signs. It's a racing incident. And I think they're both to blame, you can give blame or both, and that's why I go racing incident. This was not as worthy of a 10 second penalty on Carlos.

Yeah, I think it's close. I think it's really close. And it comes back to the LeCler and Russell debate again as to when are you entitled to room? Because I think if you are side by side through a corner, or even if I think if you've got a wheel, like your front wheel is alongside the rear wheel of the other car, you should be entitled to room at that stage.

And if you don't give the room, therefore you're the car ahead. You should be the one that is penalised. Equally, I think if you're deemed not to be alongside and you are just chancing something and then you are not given the room, tough, that's on you. The question is, was he alongside here?

And it is really, really close because the way turn one works, it is quite an extended corner to the point where if you do go to the outside like Carla Sines did, you can break a little bit later in order to get alongside, which is what he's.

he did. Was he side by side in the breaking zone? I've watched it back and I can't tell. It's really close. So I think I would have gone for a racing incident on this as well. I can understand the penalty. Even if I wouldn't have called it, I can understand why, both in line with the way in which the regulations are written. But also, if they do deem, Lawson to be ahead in that corner, then fair. Like, he's the one who's entitled to the room. It's a shame for both of them because, again, they both could have had really good points. And the sensible play, regardless about what you think is the right or wrong decision here,

the sensible thing to do for both of them is to live to fight another day. And suddenly, they are probably looking at fourth and fifth place in this Grand Prix. And that's a lot of valuable points for two drivers who could both really use points. right about now, but not the way it ended up. When do we get to the point where one law doesn't fit all situations, and we're going to start looking at this on a case-by-coase basis, imploring the stewards to make a decision with a time limit in mind, that means that we get an answer during a Grand Prix,

and also they don't just go, the letter of the law says X, and therefore X must be applied regardless of any common sense. It's just, it's just fuelled with Stu Pickettty. Formula One is fueled by Stu Piccettian, Nguyen. Taking advantage of Carlos Seins and Liam Lawson's misfortune was Seines' teammate, Alex Albin, who's managed to find himself 10 positions higher up than where he started this Grand Prix in fifth place. A bit of a story of the season, I think, for William Sam.

I don't know how he's done it either. I feel like we barely saw him actually make his way through this whole Grombrie. He didn't need to. He's the only one that just didn't do anything wrong. He just teleported to the front. Yeah, a bit of a parting of the seas for Alex. album and he will unfortunately fall foul to the likes of Hajjar having their first ever polling him because what a drive? What a drive at a trap like Zandwalk to go from P15 all the way

up to P5. That is sublime. He needed that and he managed to just cut his way through any carnage. When you have your teammate and Norson hitting into each other, when Fernando Alonkso is the world's angriest man over the radio. Oh, we'll get on to that in a minute. Go on, I've never seen a man roar like about over a team radio before it was quite funny do the roar um i love you fagando um he is able to just get past that as well when hask aside to never pit under a safety car same as bortoletta they just get out of the way when both ferraris disappear off the racetrack due to differing reasons when we're going to blame my saying is picks up a 15 second time penalty for crashing into a Ferrari and speeding in the pit lane all you have to do is

pit at the right time keep your car on the racetrack and alex Salon did that at every single point and delivers an incredible performance. A great drive from him. And actually, I think it will go massively under the radar. It might be his best performance of the season. And I genuinely don't think people are going out to C's there. You mentioned Aston Biden in that. Let's talk about them briefly because they have walked away with a double points finish

with Landstrol ahead of Fernando Alonzo after starting in 19th place. 7th and 8th for the Aston Martin duo. Slightly different ways to get there. Harry, what did you make of their day? I think what you meant to say was the Astor Martin Masterclass. Is that not the old double point? I mean, Fagando still technically moves forward from his starting position. I'm honestly.

Luckyest 10 points. Actually, it would be the luckiest 10 points you've ever seen in your life. If Hass didn't walk away with nine points from this Grand Prix. Yeah, huge. Huge. I'm not entirely sure how Lance Strauss ended up there. Quite frankly. Yeah, I think they were quite fortunate in the end with how that played out.

I think the most frustrating thing is for Ashton Martin, they had a really good car this weekend, and it just didn't work out, whether it's stroll and qualifying. I don't think Alonzo's lap in Kauly was, oh, in Q3, was worthy of where that car belonged. He then also didn't, he lost places at the start. And that was kind of sealed the deal from that. I mean, I think he was from like where he finished,

ninth down was, I think he was in all the spots at one point this Grand Prix, just stuck behind people. So how they've walked away with that, I don't know. And lucky they did because Hadja's result has put racing balls hot on their heels and the constructors. So lucky they did pick those points up. But yeah, yeah, yeah. the masterclass how to get another double point score.

On paper from Hungary to here, it'll be like, oh, well, that's good. Two double points scores in a row for Asley Martin, the story of how they got there, very different. Yeah, it's a really tricky one to summarize, but I'll do my best. Lance Stroll has gone from 19th to 7th somehow. He did his regular strategy when there's a little bit of carnage of just not being involved in the carnage, which in itself is a skill, but he has somehow climbed 12 places in this Grand Prix. Fernando Alonzo was both great and rubbish today, I thought.

His pace was good, and some of his overtakes were impressive. Equally, to lose out to Sonoda at a restart, to have a bad start on lap one, to even be in that mix anyway, and he should have been a couple of positions higher and qualifying. It was, yeah, simultaneously good and bad from Alonzo today. The most astamine thing of all time, though, did also occur in that Fernando Alonzo always feels

like he has the short end of the stick when it comes to strategy. But it kind of looked like it wasn't going to go that way because Alonzo Pitt for the hard tires manages to get up to the back of the pack that he was in. Then a safety car comes out. Brilliant. Everyone else in front of him pits. Landstrol for once hasn't got the good. strategy because he's been on the tyres since lap 10 or whatever, he's finally managed to luck out.

And then there's a second safety car which completely ruins everything. Stroll gets the new tyres again and Alonzo has to watch a stroll goes past him. He cannot win in these scenarios. Even when he thinks he is going to win, he somehow loses. He does too much. He overthinks it. Also, I guess out losing four places on the opening lap of a Grand Prix. That's got an ideal strap.

Not at all. Shall we get to our Driver of the Day? The verdict is then. You're the driver of the day. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. In a sea of carnage, Sam, there were some very good performances out there. We saw Hadjar got Driver of the Day from the public.

vote? Are you agreeing with that or going with someone else? Honestly, I think you could give the majority of the top six or so the shout for Drive of the Day. Piastri was great, Gestap and great. Hadjar amazing. Album was great, Behrman managing to get into that spot his highest ever finish as well, beating that Ferrari performance that he had from when he stepped in. I am going to give it to Hajar, first podium, fifth youngest podium city of all time, was there entirely on merit. All the others you can argue had to have some kind of chaos to arrive where they did.

You know, Hajjah moved at one place due to a DNF that occurred entirely from a malfunction. He deserves to be in that top four regardless and it was a phenomenal drive from him. So Hajjar is my driver of the day. Harry? Hajjar is a very, very, very valid shout.

I'll go for Oscar Piastri. Again, like you said earlier, Ben, running out of superlatives here and I think it's almost like, oh, I expected that this. is what he does now, but I thought it was a superb race from him today again. So I'll go for Oscar Piastri. Yep. As mentioned, excellent

performances inside the top six, particularly. It feels wrong to give driver of the day to someone who, or not to give driver of the day to someone who delivered a grand slam performance in Oscar Piastri, but I am going to go with the Rizler, Isaac Adja. Well done. We're running a boom. What's what we do? What about worst driver of the day?

Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, been, worst driver of the day. Ben, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. You suck at driving. Harry, who've you got? Gosh, I think I'm going to have to go Lewis Hamilton, which is quite tough to say. But he was, yeah, like there was. mistakes out there from people, but they were, they were sort of like ones where they were in fights. Hamilton just fell off the road by himself. And I think if this was, there were other drivers

on the grid doing that, then we'd give them the worst drive today. So I'll go for it as Hamilton. Yeah. I had three contenders here and Hamilton was one of them. I think I am going to go Hamilton as well. And I'll, I'll mention the other two. I mean, he crashed and it. Like, it's tough to argue. against that. There were two other names I had on the list, but I'll see if Sam covers either those two off. I'm blowing away. Not a good Grand Prix, but makes one mistake, worst driver of the day. Incredible. Kimmy Antigelli destroyed. He crashed out. He crashed. He makes a mistake. He's not in the top 10, but he's like he's not worst driver of the day. He made one mistake. He made one mistake. Kimi Antigli wipe someone else spagging the pit leg and they dropped the way out of

points. You say that's one mistake he made. Two mistakes. Yeah, but okay. I disagree. What? How is that one mistake? How is that one mistake? I mean, they were my top two in the list, but I think you get it to either. Kimmy not only dig it by himself, wiping something else out.

He then speeds in the pit lane. I guess I'm baffled by that choice. Okay. Kimmy Antigali was terrible. Took ages to get overtakes done, barely moved up the field, wasn't fast-fing as teammates, till severe damage was put on place, wipes out another car, leaves in the pit laying, falls basically behind absolutely everyone, disastrous Grand Prix for getting anter.

Yuki Sengali was the other driver I had in mind who couldn't get a move down on anyone to save his life. And I mean, he's only not because he's ended up in the points, which is almost mind-blowing how he's managed to get into another place purely through the way that safety cars played out in my opinion. But, yeah, I got put Hamilton, maybe fourth or fifth worst driving the day for me. I also had Bortoletto in the mix as well. He had a bad day.

he just felt like he was dropping a position whenever the, you saw the timing tower, it just always seemed to be Bortoleto drops a position. Both Salvo struggled a lot. It's a bad strategy. They just never pit under a safety car.

Bortoletto was on 42 lap old tires wherever behind him was on new tires. He was, same as Gassley, was never going to hold out when you got 10 laps ago. That was fine, but he went from 13th to 19th

in that first stint. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you saw his start, right? Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah, shocker start. Wasn't good. No, shocker start. Yeah.

Big brain strat. What? What? It's not even... I'm just going to get in an early shout here for Hasse and Olly Berman, because every single race, it feels like they struggle in qualifying and have to do something really daft on race day. And once in a while, it will just pay off.

And it paid off here. Credit to them, they're probably just holding out for rain. And the rain never arrived. and it still worked. Yeah, good work from Behrman. Unlucky on Ocon's side as well because they pit him just before that second safety car. Otherwise, O'Con, who was ahead on track,

probably would be where Behrman was. But they nailed it. It just qualified better. And some of these strategies might actually end up in better points more often. Sam, what was your big brain strap? That song by Livlaafafetifis sings about a, team, a teammate need to let his teammate passed, but he can't because he's crashed out of the

Grand Prix. I do feel like Ferrari to get as close to that as possible with, you know, then pitting and then Hamilton immediately crashing out and it ruining their entire Grand Prix. So I am going for that series of Ferrari events that essentially put both of their cars in an absolute poo hole. So yeah, Ferrari as a whole again, get the award. And Harry, who gets the award from your side? you've always slightly mentioned this but Aster Martin and Lance Stroll just like pitting him really early for hard

to keep out of trouble, like away from everything. Just stay away, just stay away. Yeah, yeah. Isolation tactic from Ashton. It worked. So, yeah, well-up. It did work.

And before we go to our final break, it is time to review our bold predictions that we made in the preview episode midweek. and oh boy, was it a great time for us. Harry, if I remember correctly, you said that there would be, there would be no McLaren on the podium, which they tried. Hang on, I think I said there'll be contact, not that it makes it better, but there'll be contact between them.

Yeah, also wrong, yeah. Wronging a different way. Just to correct you on the wrongness. My bad. Yeah, no, no good. No. Sam, your bowl prediction was over before the day started because it was a qualifying specific bowl prediction.

It's like they went, oh, we weren't meant to be in the top 10. Well, let's just wipe each other out then. Perfect. Now we won't be in the top 10, but on the wrong day. So, yep, wrong. Yeah, that was double Ferrari. Won't make it to Q3. Yeah.

Went wrong. My bold prediction, I thought, this is very annoying. I thought going into the weekend that racing balls might actually be pretty good this weekend. So I flirted with the idea of a Hadger or a Lawson top five, top six. But no, instead I went for both racing bulls will be both Red Bull drivers because I thought Red Bull would struggle like they did in Hungary. So I got 50% of the way there with the racing bulls part of the prediction.

And then Vastappen was actually really good. And Lawson had his incident. And it unraveled very quickly. So you didn't get one right. You didn't get one right. I didn't get one right. That is nought out of three. It's a rarity, but nought out of three. You never see them coming, but they really slap me in your face where you do. Yay!

Let's take our final break on this episode. On the other side, we're going to be handing out our moment of the race. Welcome back, everyone, to the final part of today's review of the Dutch GP, which of course means it's time to give out our moment of the race. And we do have some Discord submissions coming up very shortly, but before we do that, we'll we'll each give our own. So Sam, what was your moment of the race? Yes, so please, you came to me first so I can get it in there. Who is Charlotte Clare on the phone to?

Where has he got a phone? Why is he sitting on the Sand Dunes alone for so long? Ferrari summed up in one photo was that wide shot of a Clure at the top of the San Jules while the rest of the grid drive on past and his Ferrari is seeing a wreck on the side of the road. It's like a painting. Someone would like to paint that scene. I'll hang it on my wall. Yeah, for me, that is the moment of the race.

It's just the cherry on top of this whole season. from them. It just explains it beautifully. Sam has posed the question. Who was he talking to? Well, if you have the answer to that question, we'd like to hear from you. That is our question of the week that you can find on Instagram and on X. So if you've got the answer where we don't, please do let us know. Harry, your moment of the race? Quite a few contenders for this one. I had one from pretty early on, which was Franco Colopinto got a run on his teammate going down the main straight

Gasly doesn't even Gasly doesn't even defend it he just let he's like all right Franco you've got softed ties man come on through and Franco still almost manages to run him off the road you need he both for them yeah yeah good stuff that isn't my

the other one I had was just yeah for um sorry Charlotte Claire sat in the sand dunes which is so bleak but funny at the same time what I've gone for are the new McLaren hand signals that we saw during the race because we had when the rain was coming down they had a shot of the McLaren pit wall. Zat Brown's put his hand out to check the rain.

Then he's come back in and he's gone, this is only going to work for video people. Sorry, but he's done that. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, like a little bit of rain. And then it pans to Andrea Stella and he puts his thumbs up and then goes like this. This is how you operate your championship winning team. Oh, yeah. It's going on. They're not talking about anything to do at the race at all.

Yeah, yeah. What does that mean? Anyway, sorry, clever than us. Just put like a piano underneath and have Stella there. Like the home's another hammer. That homes another hammer thing. Playing the piano. Anyway, yeah, that was mine.

It really got me. It was Zach Brown just like, just a little bit, just a little bit there. Stella could definitely just do this himself if you want it to. No, no, he's got to play that air piano. I respect it. I wasn't liking Macarabuch before this race, but now a guy who plays an air piano, fair play. My moment of the race was Max Verstappan's move on Landon-Rus on lap one.

I'm not sure if it's possible to make love to an overtake, but if it is, I'm going to find the way. Gross. Ew. It was very good. Also, I know Ferrari just had a bad day, but the lifting coast for engine temps. Are we sure about that, Ferrari? And it's not for the other reasons that you've had to all year long.

Lift and coast. Just put it in the big, put the whole car in the bits us. Bits us. Right, that's our moment of the race, but we have, of course, submissions from our Discord. as well. Yes, we do. Thank you, Ben. Lots of submissions here. First up, we have Mike Bridgeford. What's up, guys? This is Mike from Orange County, California reporting live from turn 12 at Zanvort. My moment of the race so far, it's Charles O'Clair, putting that nasty pass on George Russell. I don't care if he was the penalty or not. It was amazing. If you've never been to a race live,

Zanvort's the place to be. Keep breaking late. That is Meatman Mike who gave us big boxes of dried meats and came to our live show. You did. Thank you for that, Mike. I'm glad you enjoyed your time of Zandvort. And that nasty pass.

Nasty pass. Nasty. Hendy beef is next or just beef. Hello. Moment of the race. Well, that was quite a bit. I did enjoy me yelling at a TV for the safety car,

stay out one more up because I was making cheese sauce from my roast. But also very much enjoy George Russell. radio him just going, sorry? That was quite good. Okay, bye. I love that every time beef doesn't an ounce book, it's just about her life. Can I question cheese sauce plus roast?

I'm assuming it's going on cauliflower? Is it particularly? I don't like it anyway, mate, so I'm with you. It's actually instead of gravy. She's just puts cheese sauce over everything when you're on the roast. Northern gravy, just melting cheese. Oh, yes. Can we get a podcast vote, cheese sauce on cauliflower,

dislike, dislike. Cheese sauce all in the Yorkshire put. But it's pointless because cauliflower sucks and you're just covering it in cheese sauce to make it like semi-okay. Unpopular opinion. I like cauliflower. No, it sucks.

That's why you put cheese sauce on it. Maybe that's why I thought Hamilton hang a better race. Because I like cauliflower. Your cauliflower eating freak. The Venn diagram on that man. Sam's over there. That's it.

People who think Hamilton. Wasn't a bad driver today. Coleyflower eaters. Doesn't like cheese sauce. Oh, God. Anyway, next up is DJ spin to win. What's popping everybody? It is DJ spin to win.

My moment of the race was the fact that I called Charles Crash before it even happened. And despite crashing twice on the weekend, Lance Drol still finishes in the points ahead of Alonzo. What is going on here? Anyways, everybody, keep breaking late. Can I verify. DJ Spinterwood did call the crash in the discob before it happened.

I think we could, if we, as British people, we can't say what's popping as an intro to things. It doesn't work, does it? I might start doing it. Tallyho, what's popping? I was like George Russell on his radio. What's popping with the strategy team? I know it didn't, we didn't really cover it,

but some belters from him again today, George, on the radio. Like, it's just a foregone conclusion now. Also, LeCler be like he cannot complain. he will you know he will you know he will anyway a stranger to jean huss is next hello late breakers my moment of the race is kimmy antonelli getting relegated to f2

for that awful move he tried to pull on leclair that didn't happen all right well i guess we'll go with isaac hijar getting his first podium even though he never would have been allowed to attack max by the team when it was a fight for p3 I was wondering about that He wouldn't want to You'd get a sure fire promotion at that point

Please I'm surprised he didn't like let Russell and that lot through on the last lap Just go on You have it Yeah go on After you Thank you for that

Gene Hasse stranger Next up is Oh gosh Rapscallion Stallions Repsgalian Stallions Reporting What an exciting race A moment of the race

has got to be Charleclair just sitting on the dunes. Poor guy. Poor guy. Sitting on the do. Save the sun walking on the moon, by the way. Excellent. Next up is Absolute gem.

Absolute gem. Calling for the first time from Patreon City and my moment of the race was the devastation of seeing Norris's race crumble, immediately followed by the realization that Isaac Hadjar is now a podium sitter. We're right

the boom. Signal's not great in Patreon City. We're on it. I'm on the telegraph pole. Behind a door, he was recommending that.

Thank you for that. I think that was the first time as well from absolute gem. So thank you for submission. Hello Z. Hello Z. If you're American, is next.

Well, I'm one of the race. Probably have to be Carlos Sines, realizing his penalty and then later wanting to talk to the stewards like they're the managers

of the store. Yeah, his reaction to it being Lawson was quite funny, wasn't it? Oh, is this guy, man? So stupid. I saw on Twitter just now that Carlos Lans been interviewed and he said that the stewards

won't see him. He was scared. Just lock the door. No, don't let him in. Next up is, oh God, George Nanderos. Hey, everyone.

George Nandalos. Such a great race today. The radio was on point. My favorite moment was Carlos Sines and his race engineer talking about the penalty he got. Who get? You get. Oh my God, it cracked me up.

Have a great afternoon, y'all. You get. It's such a funny way to say it's yours. You get. The only problem with the transcript is it should have just been you as in the letter you and not the full that you get. Yeah. get.

Thank you for that. Hazer is next. All right, boys. My moment of the race was Joel Leclerclair's overtake on Russell at the safety car restart. None of this. Oh, I need a bit of DRS.

Oh, he didn't leave the space. No, it don't matter. Completely unconventional corn. Don't leave space. Batter your way through. Few drivers could learn that. Sport will be a lot more interesting. Love it, Charles.

Cheers, boys. Yes, Azar. Batter. Batter. Batter. Batter. Butter. And you're sausage,

Hazza? Fatad. Batta. Thank you for that, Hazer. And then last but very much, not least, we have Toebar. Tobar here. Stepan's overtake on Norris? Amazing. Short and sweet. Got the point done. Love that.

Can argue with that at all. Thank you for that. Thank you very much again to everyone who pop your submissions in. And you won't have to wait long for your next opportunity for submissions because we're back to a preview midweek for the Italian. and Grand Prix. And with that, Sam, I think we've done a reasonable job of covering as much as we possibly could on today's episode. If you wouldn't mind getting us out of here. I'm sure there's something we've missed. But if there is, you want to hear our review of every driver's been mentioned at the start of the episode, then Patreon is in the description. And for us, you know,

a small fee, you know, it's about $8 or $9, I think, a month. Essentially, you massively help this show. And it means that we could buy upgrades for things like mics and cameras and lights. It really helps us go a long way. So thank you to everyone that already contributes to that. You get loads of extra contact. Check it out. You can cancel it after a month if it isn't for you. Discord is in the description as well. Follow us on social media, late-breaking F-1 everywhere. And we will see you midweek for more racing previews. I'm very excited for Morg as everyone knows I absolutely love it. So bring it on in the meantime. I've been Samuel Sage. I've been Ben Hocking. And I've been Harry Ead. And remember, keep breaking late.