The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2025 Miami GP Race Review

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Piastri makes it 3 in a row at Miami! The LB team breaks down all the action, from McLaren's dominant finish to Ferrari's team order tomfoolery, a flurry of DNFs and an impressive display from William...s... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUPPORT our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠ for bonus episodes JOIN our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠ community JOIN our ⁠⁠⁠⁠F1 Fantasy League⁠⁠⁠⁠ EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! TIDE: Save more, earn more—up to 4.48% AER (variable). Interest rates are tiered, with the top rate for balances over £1M. Each tiered rate applies to the portion within that range. New Tide members get these rates free for 6 months; after that, your Tide plan’s rates apply. For full offer T&Cs visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠tide.co/savings⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me Ben Hocking today reviewing the Miami Grand Prix won by Oscar Piastri in a McLaren 1-2, joined on the podium by George Russell in third. Sam, I say George Russell was third. he's a long way back.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah. Quite the gap there between first, second and third. You could do a lot of things in that amount of time. Quite a spicy race. Many things are happening. And we've had so much time between second and third that Harry Eag's managed to find his microphone. And he's here with us.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Hello, everyone. Thank God Max Verstappen exists because there'd be nothing to watch at the front, would there? If those McLarets are won two in qualifying, Oh, boy. It'd be a minute. Indeed. Plenty to talk about on that fight that we'll get into in a moment's time.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We're also going to be discussing Williams showing up big with some big time points. More on that a little bit later on. Again, Mercedes third and sick fear. Ferrari. Oh, Ferrari. We're talking about you later. But let's start with McLaren. We'll get to what happened on the first last.
Starting point is 00:01:44 and the way in which Piaastri and Norris eventually overtook Vastappen in a moment. But let's start off with just that McLaren advantage that seemed to transpire as the race went on. Piastri won this race by about four and a half seconds back to Lando Norris, but both of them well over a pit stop back to George Russell in a race that included VSCs. As mentioned, it's not like they started first and second and were able to build the advantage from lap one. Sam, was this the most dominant than McLaren have looked so far this year? By far, yeah, the pace here was absolutely electric. And I think, as you've really mentioned, they were flattered actually by the fact that they had to make overtakes, both of them.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I didn't not have a clean Grand Prix. They weren't able to kind of just drive off off the line and have a one-two battle between them for 57 laps. There were challenges, and that challenge was called Max for Staffing, and he used the biggest challenge, and he made it very challenging. So the fact that they were still able to extend. And the speed at which they extended the gap, the moment they got past Max Verstappen was the scary thing. The moment Piacri found its way past Max, I think the gap got up to seven or eight seconds within four or five laps.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And Landon Norris was able to do exactly the same thing. The moment Landonornaud was eventually clears Max Verstappen. The gap goes up to seven, eight, nine seconds. It is insane just how much faster that McLaren was. I said it after our qualifying review. that whilst I didn't have the final lap that they would have wanted to see themselves kind of on pole or on the front road properly,
Starting point is 00:03:17 they are so good at holding onto their tyres and they're so effective through these fast, downforce corners that they've just got such an advantage over everyone else. They were helped by the fact that no rain actually ended up coming into the race. And with the batting that was ensuing with drivers behind and a few odd strategies that were going on with the way the BSC played out, they were able to just scamper off, truly dominant,
Starting point is 00:03:37 the most dominant performance we've seen so far this season. both Piastri and Norris having really, really brilliant races between them. But Norris, unfortunately, due to what happened on turn one, is unable to challenge Pedestri right at the end. As much as we have complimented McLaren a lot on the strength of their car so far this year, partly due to some errors made by the drivers, partly because maybe they weren't as dominant as we've seen today. They haven't necessarily been sweeping up one-two finishes.
Starting point is 00:04:06 They had one in China, but I think that might be the only one we've had so far, this year, they weren't able to capitalize in Suzuki, in Jeddah they weren't one to either. Harry, based on just the gap that they had on the rest of the field, would you agree that this was the best they've looked all year?
Starting point is 00:04:25 It is the best they've looked all year in terms of it's the most convincing performance, but to be honest, I think you mentioned there's been some other factors in other races this year, which has meant they've not been able to build up a gap. I can't remember which race it was now.
Starting point is 00:04:38 but there was one where Piastri built up a massive gap even when we had a safety car it could have been Bahrain I think but I think yeah if we hadn't had races where there were interruptions by safety car or weather or whatever I think we could well have been looking at this but most races in the season so I think it's just
Starting point is 00:05:03 this has been the first race where they've truly been able to show their true pays And to be honest, as I said at the beginning, you pointed out, Ben, if Max Verstappen wasn't in that mix and they just led off the front row, I mean, who knows where they could have been with no proper safety car interruptions. It was 30 or seconds by the end of it,
Starting point is 00:05:23 and they had a good, I don't know, 15 laps trying to get past Westappen without that, then it could have been even bigger. So yeah, this is, it shows where the true pace of that McLaren lies at the moment. And the others, to be honest, the others are doing a great job to cling on in there. Verstappen, with his qualifying efforts, Russell being a burglar of podiums as and when he can,
Starting point is 00:05:47 the fact that they're even able to get in the mix is actually quite a testament to those guys because that McLaren is so damn quick. It seemed as if the other nine teams were running with the Lego cars and they just didn't switch them around from the pre-race and it was only McLaren that actually got into their proper Grand Prix car. good good lord that'd be that be fast um and again i'll make the point if if lando norris doesn't get stuck behind max fastappan for as long as he did if oscar piastri doesn't need to make three
Starting point is 00:06:21 overtakes to get to the lead if if lander norris doesn't need to make three overtakes to get back to second place if they are able to get first and second in qualifying and just lead off from term one onwards this was 35 seconds or something like that it could have been 40 it could have been 45 And the way in which the rules work now, I appreciate the whole fastest lap was a bit artificial, but it was very rare that we saw big gaps during the era of the fastest lap point, because if you had that gap, there was no reason not to go for the fastest lap and take the extra pit stop. They don't need to factor that in anymore. So if you do genuinely have a 35 second advantage on the next quickest car, you can just go and take it.
Starting point is 00:07:02 There's no reason, there's no reason not to. But yeah, I think this was the most convincing that the team have been so far this year. I agree with your point, Harry, that I think at a few other venues, we didn't fully see how quick the car could have been. Suzuki is maybe number one on that list. I think if Suzuki was a little bit easier to pass, we might have seen the same race unfold here at Suzuki that we would have seen here. but yeah, this was by far the most convincing we've seen from them. In terms of both drivers getting past Max Verstapp and Sam, we're kind of working back here from the end of the race and we'll eventually get back to turn one.
Starting point is 00:07:45 But with both of them making their way by Vastappen, we see Piastri take advantage of a lockup into turn one, already referenced how he was able to really build the gap whilst Lando Norris was trying to get by. Norris had one attempt where he went off the track and was forced to give the position back, He got the move done in the following lap, but still held him up a fair bit. What did you make of each driver and how they managed to navigate the challenge of Vastappan? I'm going to speak to these battles under the current rule sets that we have in Formula One, something that I think we've expressed that we maybe don't agree with, but we have to speak about it as the rules work.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And Max Vastappan, he knows how to play those rules like a fiddle. He has them absolutely tied up. He knows exactly where to put his car. He knows exactly how difficult to make it. And you heard his racing a GP come over that radio, make him work for it. You stick to the inside of that corner because you know if Max Verstappen can break late enough
Starting point is 00:08:42 and he can hit that apex with his front axle just in front of the outside car's front axle, he technically has claimed the apex, which is the phrase that is now going around. And if you claim the apex, you could do whatever you want to the car on the outside. And that includes running straight off the road and you won't get penalized, you won't get investigated,
Starting point is 00:09:01 it would be a warning. And that's what Max did. He's taking the rule set and he's using it perfectly to his advantage. We've seen him spell this out time and time again. He's so switched on when cars around him are breaking the rules. We heard it with George Russell, perhaps, when they were going through that yellow flag. And immediately it was check if George Russell didn't lift on that yellow flag. Obviously, we found out that George did.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It was fine. But he's so switched on to check. So he knows every line in that rule book. And he's using it to his advantage. So we were trying to get past Max for stabbing out of all people on that. grid, it is the hardest thing that you can do to get past. I thought Oscar Piaastri did a better job of it than Landon Norris, and we've seen this historically now between the pair of them.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oscar Piaastri is a very kind of rock up, get the move down and go. He tried that straight away. I think going down into turn 11, the heavy braking zone with a very long DRS zone in the middle of the track, you saw him almost chinked to the inside as if to try and get past Max Verstappen by surprise. Didn't play off. They took two more attempts to get past him, sent Max Verstappen for an absolute bag of chips into turn one, outbreaks himself, and he went, thanks very much. I go up and under the year,
Starting point is 00:10:04 and I'll drive off into the distance. Landon Norris had a bit more of a torrid time of it. Fell for the round of the outside move a couple of times, pushed onto the curb. There's a video going round of Landon Norris chucking the cheeky big finger up at Max Verstappen as he drove off in front of him, which is all fun and games, a bit of banter. And then, of course, finally, even after running off the track to get the move done, he gets another attempt, gets the move done. And that is what unleashed both those McLaurants. Max Verstappen quite literally was the cork in the bottle to those McLaren's, and once he was out the way, it was their race to roam free with.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So took some attempts, it's testament to how good Max could be, whether you agree with that defense. This is another conversation entirely, but with the rules, he took everything he could. Harry, what did you make of both McLarence and how they managed to pass Vastappan? I think the Vestappan battles, as they'll be known now, were a great indicator of where they, those two McLaren drivers' skills in will-to-wheel racing lie at the moment.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Piastri, it wasn't, you know, even by Piastri standards, it wasn't clinical, but he's going up against Max Verstappen, but he sussed it out so much quicker than Landon Norris did as to what Vastappen was doing. And as you said, Sam, you know, GP coming on the radio to say, you know, stick to the inside, make the work for it. By the way, GP, I don't think you need to be told that. Oh, cheers, GP. Thanks for that. Yeah, all right, I'll consider it. It's like giving a carpent or an IP a manual, that is. The inside.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's a good idea. But, yeah, it was clear that was Vestappen's game. He was in this to hold those McLaren's up for as long as possible and see what he could get out of it. And like you said, Stapia, Piazzi, Sustiazziato and sold Vestappin into turn one, when Norris rocked up, we heard, at least on the sky commentary, saying that they were telling him on the raid, the radio and what piastri did to get past him and that that in itself is is is almost a criticism of
Starting point is 00:12:04 what norris is able to do when he when he comes to will to with the staff and i don't know whether it's slightly in his head now after last year but he just didn't seem to learn the lesson of um and we'll get to turn one as well but it doesn't seem to learn the lesson of what what the stapler is going to do every time you put yourself on the outside he will run you out of road does not it doesn't matter where you are, he's going to do it. And I just, it confuses me that Norris continues to try and go with that tactic because whilst it, you know, we may not agree with it. It is how the rules are written. And it's not the fastest way to get, you can be annoyed about it, but it's not the fastest way to get it done done. Be more like Piastri, learn from it, get the past done quicker
Starting point is 00:12:47 and move on. Because by the time Norris got past, Piastri was like 10 seconds up the road and it was to ask you race done. If he'd done it straight away, Norris, then. we could have a proper battle for the league. I do think Norris probably had a bit more pace as we can't. So yeah, I think still some will-to-all lessons to be learned for Lando. I agree. And I think this was a race that ultimately played into Piastri strengths and not Lando Norris's.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I agreed with the way that Martin Brundel on Sky Commentary kind of summed up this race, which is Lando Norris at some tracks, and I think here, might have a marginal advantage in terms of pace. But Piastri right now has a marginal edge in terms of racecraft. And it was the racecraft that was needed based on how everything unfolded today. As soon as Norris got by Vastappen, at which point I think it was 8.8 seconds was the gap between Piastri and Norris. We saw that come down.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You know, it came down to about seven seconds or so. Norris was slightly better in the pit stop phase. He managed to wipe out a bit more time there. and he gets it all the way down to four seconds. So he more than cuts the gap in half. And I know it extended out a little bit on the last lap, but equally, I think the race was over at that point. So I don't think that matters too much.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But he does do a better job of getting within that four seconds or so. But it's all gone because he's taken a little bit too long to get by Vestap and where Piahtri hasn't. And I agree this wasn't Piastri's most clinical overtake of Vestap we've ever seen, but he did still work it out. And I do think there's a little bit of a difference in the way that Norris and Piastri go racing wheel to wheel, which is Piastri seems to force errors, whereas Norris is kind of hoping one happens. And they don't sound like massive distinctions, but in this sort of industry, that there is a big difference between those two things. I don't really mind Lando Norris's, let's call it a failed attempt where he went off the track and had to let him back by. I don't, I don't mind too much on that one because he should have been past all. It was really the turn one incident that was the one for me because he had a great run coming out of there. I still think he could have worked his way to the inside of that corner.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He had such an advantage coming off it. But even if that's not true, you play it the same way Piastri does and not try to go around the outside. We've sort of mentioned the first lap incident. We have Lando Norris on the front row alongside Max Verstappen. Max Verstappen on the pole. He be Max Verstappen. goes deep into turn one, gives Lando Norris a bit of an opportunity coming out of turn one and into turn two.
Starting point is 00:15:30 That opportunity fades away very quickly for Lando Norris, and as a result of him going off track, loses a couple of positions. The stewards didn't even get to look at this one. It was decided that it wasn't going to be passed to them, no further investigation necessary. Harry, were you okay with that decision? I mean, it's flat one, isn't it? So if you could punch a band of the face, it wouldn't matter.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Literally murder is on the cards. Yeah. It doesn't surprise me, again, given the current rule set, whether I agree with it, again, those sets of corners, you know, the first couple of corners are so, realistically, so one car through in terms of wheel to will, you rarely get two side by side.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And Vastappen was always going to close this door. I think it was borderline, borderline for me. I think had there been some contact, then I think this goes under investigation, but the fact that there wasn't, it's probably what safest happened in that instance. But again, not to keep coming down harshly on Norris here, but this isn't a Suzuki.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Like, overtakes can be done during this race. I think it's clear that the McLaren was going to be the quick car this weekend. Why not a negative? hindsight, you know, very easy to say and we're just sat on the sofa watching this, but why are you trying to go? I know the opportunities opened up, but it was very quickly going
Starting point is 00:17:03 to disappear again when Vestappen is alongside you. Why are you still trying to fight this one out? Let it go. Let it go and go for the next opportunity because ultimately, I think this is what, obviously with the overtakes later on, but this is what Kostner is today because you have to do all that work going back past the
Starting point is 00:17:21 cards he lost positions too. And then get past for staff and in the end he only finishes like three and a half seconds behind his teammate. I think that speaks to the fact that he had the better pace out there today. He just never had a chance to use it. So yeah, I think I can see why I didn't go to, didn't go to the stewards on this one. It was very marginal though for me. I hate these rules so much.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I really hate these rules. rules because we get bogged down in nonsense every single time. We have a set of rules that apply for if you're the inside car, but then they're different if you're the outside car, but they're different if you're the attacker and slightly different if you're the defender. And apparently they're also different if it's one standalone corner or if it's one corner that goes into the next. Why are we just messing around with all this? The rules could be so. Simple. If you are alongside, and we can, you know, we can determine what alongside means. If you are alongside, you are entitled to racing room, whether you're the inside car, outside car, attacking,
Starting point is 00:18:34 defending. It doesn't matter. You're entitled to room if you're alongside. Full stop. That's the end. You don't need anything more. And we're, Vestappen should have got a penalty for this. He has forced Norris Y. What do we want him to do? Just fade into non-existence. I appreciate what you're saying, like maybe he should back out because the Macquarin is so much quicker and it makes sense to. I completely get that. I like racing.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Why can't we have rules which allow racing? That's a controversial opinion, Ben. Apparently it is with the way the rules are written these days. Other series all managed to make this work. But for whatever reason, Lando Norris in that spot should have done exactly what you said, Harry, which sucks. He should have gone, it's not worth it. the battle, I don't want a battle here.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We'll go through one at a time and we'll wait for the DRS overtake so it's a slam dunk. Yay! Like, get out of here, man. Like, come on. Also, I know all your British bias comments are lining up. Go back to Jeddah review
Starting point is 00:19:39 and see what I said on that. Fuming. It's proper got me this one. Oh, dear. So, yeah, I was on the fence on this one. Sam? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you can't win a race in the first corner,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but you can definitely lose it. And I agree with what you're saying, that Landon Norris, maybe should have, I mean, you're traveling at ridiculous level of speed into a very scary braking zone and lots of fast cars around you. It's very tough to say to someone, you should have the whole side to back out of it
Starting point is 00:20:10 and overtote a letter wrong in the lap. It's really not that simple, is it? And if I'm totally honest, under the current rule set, Max for Staff, we should get a penalty. Even with the rules that we have, We've already spoken about the way he's defended. Landon-Gorris was 100% alongside.
Starting point is 00:20:24 His front wheels were in line with Max Verstappen's front wheels at the apex. He was simply not given the room entirely. He was forced off the track. It cost him massively. Max Verstappen forcing other car off and gaining advantage. Under the current rule set, that is not allowed with where those two cars sit. A penalty should have been given to Max Verstappen.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But why wasn't it? Because I'm stewards. Because the stewards didn't get to look at it. That's the point. Like, the whole group, the whole group, the whole group, who don't care who gets an aim on it. The whole group of the side penalties,
Starting point is 00:20:56 noted, this, whatever lot of crap, they want to call it, or definition they want to give it. They don't clock in till lap two. They don't care about administering the rules until lap two. We've had enough time that if it's, unless it's protested significantly,
Starting point is 00:21:09 no one says anything. Let him carry on. Are you Liam Lawson, are you? Just driving to Olly Beerman on that one. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Just have a full on. blown collision. Don't look again. It's crap officiating. They're rubbish at what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And two drivers on that court lap first step, sugar bag of penalty. And they work. Even under the rule set, it's crap. It's not good enough. It's embarrassing to have fun. Big up the stewards, by the way, for investigating Norris getting advantage off track after giving back the place. Yeah, good back. You know what? We're not going to get, we're not going to give a penalty for that one. They have the words, tea break and went, oh, that's us. We should pop off, should we? Joining the Ferrari mechanics, apparently. More on that in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Do you know what I really liked in this race? I'd love to go, Ben. Hamilton versus Ockon. That was a really fun battle. Do you remember why? Because they gave each other a racing room. Yeah. And they went side by side for like three corners.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And then eventually the move was done by Hamilton. And they were so close and you thought maybe at any point they could have contact and yet they didn't because they're two brilliant drivers who race the right way. I can't wait for Lewis Hamilton to be a little menace and send that clip to Fernando along. So I go, that's how you go through there without take yourself off, by the way, pal. It was great. It was brilliant. I'd like more of it. The whole thing was brilliant. Let's take our first break at this point. On the other side, we're getting into the race that was for Ferrari. A race is generous.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Welcome back, everyone. I seem to recall on yesterday's review. You said something about Ferrari recovering to a seventh and an eighth. Look where they are, Ben. Yeah, unfortunately. You were right on this one. Cor, Ferrari, we're going to start with you. What an absolute calamity. This is being,
Starting point is 00:23:13 Charlotte Clare, not able to skip with the Williams, and we'll get onto Williams in a little bit because their pace was absolutely sensational. Albaun, you've done a great job. Science will get onto you in more detail as well. But brilliant job from that Williams team. And it's embarrassing that Ferrari, both cars, the Clare who starts right with them,
Starting point is 00:23:29 he essentially gets dropped from DRS by about, lap 15, lap 60, he starts to really struggle to stay within one second. And Lewis Hamilton's the same, but further back, where it comes to Ocon, we thought they'd set their car up super quick to be really good in that final straight to get the moves done. It takes them so long to get anything done there. Hamilton stuck behind. And then finally, Hamilton gets a stroke of luck under this VSC that allows him to come out in front of Senghauda, passes the salber of the time of Holgerberg, who hadn't come in either,
Starting point is 00:23:59 gets him away from that. He's right behind the Clare who's up behind the Williams. Why have we got more calamitous on the radio, please? Why can't they have any kind of clear communication? Hamilton is going to be so sick to death of this Ferrari team. It's only six races in. And Lecler, who's like, is there a problem? I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And I was actually spoken to me yet. And then the same thing happens to Lewis Hamilton when Lecler is like, guys, my tyres are overheating. Guys, guys, I'm overheating. Guys, guys, the car is overheating now. Oh, we haven't actually told Lewis that something might change yet, by the way. We'll let him go now, shall we? Actually, a bunch of moron sometimes is Ferrari team.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I can't believe they keep finding new ways to get it so disastrously wrong. It costs them time every single time. The gap at one point was two seconds to Anting Ellie. They finally do the switch, 3.1 seconds. It's not happening, is it? It's just not happening. They made every call at the wrong time today, other than pitting Lewis Hamilton when the VSC came out. That was the only thing they got right.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Harry, I think the good call of Ferrari yesterday in the sprint race for Lewis Hamilton to get himself on the podium, is this just the world balancing itself back out? Like, we can't have too much good Ferrari without some of the bad. Yeah, you've got to have, where there is light, you have to have dark as well.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, yang and yang. It's a real shame that I can only do. Yeah, more yang than ying. Yes. It's a real shame for I can only do Spring races in 2025. There's nothing else they can do. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:34 If Hamilton did, I've seen a great clip, by the way, on Twitter, when they're all part of them, and it's Hamilton stood next to the clerk and Carlos Sines coming up behind them and the caption is just like the trauma bond. Like they've all been bonded by this awful time they've had. But I mean, yeah, for Carlos Sines just sat watching it going,
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, oh no. I've left this. There is a gang. Yeah. Oh, they've swapped again. Oh, good times. Yeah, when I said it was brewing, I'd say maybe simmering now rather than something brewing.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Is that the tea or is that the relationship? I don't know, both. It's a sort of real low heat at the moment. I'm not sure what's going on at Ferrari because not only is their pace terrible, executionally they've gone back to absolute rubbish. We've given them compliments this year and quite rightly with the sprint race you're correct
Starting point is 00:26:33 on that. But this was a shambles in how to execute a race with just no zero communication. The resignation is Charlotte Claire's voice when they were like, we'll try again at 1011 and he's just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Whatever, I don't get, we'll talk about it afterwards. I don't know. Just talk about it like it, guys. The fact is being played out as he's then overtaking Hamilton as well. Yes. It's so beautifully ironic how bad they are at this. Yeah, I, they should, everything, as you said, Sam, all the calls, all the right calls were made of the wrong time. They made every call far too late.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The Hamilton call for him to go in front should have been made five laps beforehand. And then they may have even avoided the situation where they had to then let Leclair past. But, you know, in the end, they gained nothing when I think they probably could have got Antonelli had they worked together. But that and itself, the fact that they were chasing a P6 potentially is not ideal from Ferrari and so far off the pace. So, as you said, Ben Hamilton was battling Ocon at one point. I mean, he was taking him a while to get past O'Con who was in a house. He has a Ferrari. Lewis Hamilton does.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So that in itself speaks to how how poor this one was for them. They just didn't help themselves. The real cherry on top, that final shot of the race for a Ferrari is having Carlos Sykes literally grinding along the side of that Ferrari in the final corner. It shows how tragic the whole race is.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Sorry, he moved on the breaking. Man has already finished Carlos, like, you're breaking from Mississippi, mate. You've got a long way to go before that corner turns up. I think it was on. It was. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Why not? He turned out on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. I need your optimism for closed doors. Just like the smallest. Yeah, I can fit through there. No worries.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah, yeah. I love that. I think, Harry, you got to the crux of the issue later on in your point, which is this was over six. Like, there's so much debate and strategy. and team orders and team radio over an ambitious ploy to get the win? No.
Starting point is 00:29:01 To get a podium? No. To get sixth. You are Ferrari. And that's the bigger problem here is that they were slow. And they were having to deploy all of their tactics horribly, but they were having to deploy all their tactics to get a sixth place away from Kimmy Antonelli. This was a day where Williams outpaced them both.
Starting point is 00:29:24 was a day where Hamilton struggled to get by Esteban Ockon, and Ferrari managed to compound that by also being strategically woeful. I mean, they managed to luck into the, okay, it's not complete luck, but Hamilton and LeClaire both took advantage of the safety car where others couldn't. Great. You've got the opportunity to take advantage of that. And they didn't in any way at all. They had two plays. Play one was let Lewis Hamilton go immediately to make. use of the best of that medium tire. Play two was actually the hard tire across the full stint's going to be better. So Lewis, we're not going to switch the positions, as they were going to do to begin with
Starting point is 00:30:04 and let LeCler go off into the distance and see if he can get the gap down. And they did neither. They went in the middle and gave LeClair like five laps, by which point the best of the mediums had gone. And then Leclair was behind and the best of the hard tires was sat behind their other driver. just didn't work whatsoever. They did bring that gap down. I think it, even if they had played what either of those two strategies that were viable,
Starting point is 00:30:34 they'd just come up short anyway, which again is a serious problem because they weren't battling for the win. They were battling for sixth. And you mentioned the resignation in Charles LeClaire's voice. And that is because of where they were. Like, it makes sense from LeClau's perspective that he isn't going to get overly emotional about this because this isn't what any of them are aiming for. They're not going for sixth place. They're not going for fourth in the constructors. They want to be winning titles. They want to
Starting point is 00:31:02 want to be winning races. They're not in a privileged enough position right now to be squabbling like they were. It's just, it's counterproductive. Have you, um, have you seen the wonderful photo from the Ferrari paddock area where you can just sit behind the hospitality glass where Lewis Hamilton sat on the sofa talking to Freddie Bass and Fredbys, and Fred Vass? is sat there with his head and his hangs looking directly at the floor. And that's before the race even started. So it says or not. That is the most Ferrari thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Harry, what did you make of Lewis Hamilton's Team Radio? Because this is the most animated we've heard him on Team Radio thus far in his Ferrari career. And it's race six. And it's race six. Yeah, I feel like you might call it give a, Sebastian Vetter are cool maybe after this one
Starting point is 00:31:56 just be like oh, I understand now. Seb's like you should have called me a year ago and I told you what to do,
Starting point is 00:32:03 not join. You know that clip you mentioned of Hamilton Lecler and Sykes are walking I can just imagine in the sky
Starting point is 00:32:09 like the sun Vettel looking down like all of them welcome. My children. Yeah, look, I think it's clear
Starting point is 00:32:20 that Hamilton is it's a weird because we've heard Hamilton be frustrated to have a moan on the radio before whether it's been justified or not he's always been the sort of driver to wear his heart on his sleeve and let his team and the board know what he's thinking never has he been so sassy sassy hamilton is what i am now living for and i think that in itself is It's like, congratulations Ferrari. It's taking you six races to bring the sass out of this man. I've unlocked a whole new character.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Exactly. He's had so many years of Mercedes. And I know, look, most of the time it was pretty good days for Hamilton, but there were still bad days. Never was you this sassy. Never was it this bad. So congratulations, Ferrari, firstly, because I think that's impressive.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's, I don't want to say it's worrying, but I think maybe there's perhaps some realisation settling in for Hamilton in terms of this might be a bigger challenge than he thought it was going to be and I don't think you necessarily expected to just walk in and start winning races but goodness me the heady days of pre-season and the hype felt a long time ago now
Starting point is 00:33:38 the positivity around it does feel slightly quite a long time go. So I think there's certainly work between Hamilton and the team just to still be done. But, you know, it's nothing, these sorts of problems are nothing new. We mentioned, you know, LeClaire's resignation in his voice. Carlos Sine is basically patting them both on the back of the end of this race. Sebastian Vettel, who had to deal with this sort of nonsense.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's not a new problem. And I think Lewis Hamilton is finally realizing it. But yeah, it was a really intriguing one because I just, it was just a different version of, a different version of frustration from Lewis Hamilton that I genuinely don't think we've ever heard before. So I am intrigued to see, I'd love to be in the debrief, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Indeed. I think there was a lot of direct frustration about what happened on the racetrack today, but I think there is probably a lot of indirect frustration about where that car isn't right now. because it's kind of been an evolving situation throughout these first six races where that car is not what it was in the last six races of 2024. And honestly, I think Lewis Hamilton might have had some expectations of winning races or at least being on consistent podiums at this point in the season.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I know there was always going to be an adjustment period, but Lewis Hamilton has done incredibly well wherever he's been in F1. He's been one of the most successful drivers of all time. And this was a team that one regularly at the end of last season. We had Carlos Sines take a couple of wins late in the year. We had Charles LeClair take a win as well. I don't think it was that ridiculous to think maybe November, December of last year, Lewis Hamilton, going, I could win a race in the first six races the next season. And instead, he is having to start on a different tire strategy because he's outside the top
Starting point is 00:35:37 10. He can't overtake Hock on for a number of laps. Eventually, he takes advantage of a safety car to get up to the lofty heights of eighth and then he's stuck behind his team. I think it was probably just, I don't know, a combination of so many things that led to this outpour of Sass, I'm going to call it. Sam, your thoughts on it?
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm going to keep it short, at least till we know that when Lewis Hamilton retires, he's got a job in stand-up comedy, because that man delivering some brilliant one-liners over travelling 200 miles an hour. Just great comedic timing from you, Lewis. Signs line was spot on. What a great line to deliver that.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It was a great blow to the Ferrari team. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't even acknowledge that it was an insult. No, no, Lewis, why would you do that? Move on. He was Ferrari driver last year. No, no, no. We don't have three drivers. He's a rival now, which in itself is a damning statement.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Should we review bold predictions quickly before we go to our second break? Because it won't take long. The abacus does not need to move once more. Good. Sam, correct me if I'm wrong. You had a two-parter. Yes. The first part was that there were going to be five DNFs.
Starting point is 00:36:44 There was only four. And unfortunately for you, and this very much spoils the second part, one of those DNFs was Liam Lawson, who you said was going to be top eight in the race. Yeah, he was terrible. And not in the top eight. Therefore, you are wrong. I was very wrong. I thought we'd get some carnage, and we did not really get much carnage.
Starting point is 00:37:05 The weather stayed away. Pierre Gasly and Alpine decided that they weren't going to be able to race this weekend. So my lofty, ambitious prediction of Pierre Ghazley on the podium. I think he finished first and third, but they just gave him 13th, so it might actually be a correct bold prediction. Harry,
Starting point is 00:37:24 you said that one of the McLaren's would not finish the race or finishing the points. He said finish. It was finished. Yeah, DNF. Yeah. That was the best result
Starting point is 00:37:37 from McLaren that we've seen in a long, long time. Look, Papaya fans, you welcome, quite frankly. It's you, it's you, man. Yeah, yeah, all down to me. To be honest, there was a little, little, little small part of me during the Norris for Staten battle.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I was like, what boy is happening? It's going to happen. God, God, Mike, it's just a little right hand on top. You have a wrench that way. Go on, Gavin. Yeah, a little bit more, a little bit more, son. But unfortunately, you were wrong, which joins me being wrong and Sam being wrong,
Starting point is 00:38:07 so we're all wrong. All bold predictions coming in two weeks' time. Let's take our second break on this episode. On the other side, we'll get into what was a great day for Williams. Welcome back, everyone. Williams looked pretty good in the sprint race, but with a Carlos Sines DNF and an Alex Albin time penalty, they eventually came away with nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:46 They very much rectified that today. With Alex Albin finishing in fifth, good for 10 points, Carlos Sines is under investigation as we record this, but as it stands ninth place for two points. But even if he were to lose that, it's still a very good day for Williams that have now surpassed their points total of last year already. A reminder, we are only a quarter of the way through the season. Sam, how impressed were you by what they were able to deliver? Well, firstly, I think Alex Albon needs to be under investigation for having gigantic balls because wowser,
Starting point is 00:39:19 guys turned up, putting on the big moves, putting on the big show. How good is it to say, by the way, that we're celebrating a good day for Williams? And that good day isn't, you know, one car in 10th place or fighting near or around the points. They're genuinely competing. Both of those cars at one point felt like they had the pace to beat a Mercedes. One of them did beat a Mercedes. They both look faster than Ferrari. Again, a real shame almost.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It was disappointment that only one of them beat the Ferraris. It feels like Alex Alvin really is maximising what that car is able to do. And we, I think, all rightly posed the question at the start of the season. Will Alex Albon actually be able to perform at that level that we know Carlos Sain's Kang, he's making chumps of all of us over here at the moment because currently he's outperforming him. Carlos Sykes, maybe still taking just that little bit of time to fully acclimatized, but I think he's there or thereabouts now. And as it goes, Albon is doing the better job.
Starting point is 00:40:10 But what is the most promising thing is that car is genuinely competitive. It felt like it was on rails a bit round here this weekend. And whilst they had disappointment in the spring, you barely score any points there anyway. So if it's going to go wrong, that is the race where it should go wrong. But Albon had it all together here. He just seemed on it from the moment the lights went green. He kept himself out of trouble. When it went a little bit wrong with him with the situation under the VSC
Starting point is 00:40:35 where he ended up being jumped by Antingelli, immediately gets the move down again, which was a brilliant move down the inside of turn one, really balsy, aggressive move, but super clean. A scampered off into the distance, was never under threat again. Just all round a really, really strong weekend. I'm really glad they've walked away with some genuine, strong points here because the car definitely had the place to deserve it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So, so impressed. Hopefully this isn't a one-off, this isn't an outlier, and come the likes of Imola, which is a very different and tricky track. They can maybe bring something there as well. I mean, quick quiz question for you both. Alex Albin in the Drivers' Championship standings, who, in terms of points, is he closest to right now?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton. He is closer to Hamilton than he is anyone else in the midfield. I think he's on 30 points, which... Yeah, and you then have to go back to 14 points for the next driver in what we would traditionally call the midfield. Those 10 points helping today, but he's done a great job all season long. How are your thoughts on the return to greatness of Williams? I mean, I don't think any of them would be expecting how well this is going this year, right?
Starting point is 00:41:47 because they've for so long it's about 2026 and James Val's you know and the rest of the leaves are very much feet on the ground it's all about 2026 but they can't help
Starting point is 00:41:57 they try out of each week we've actually got quite a good car so let's go and get some points it's probably not a debate for today but I don't know if you saw comments from Carlos Sines I think maybe yesterday and he was like if we develop this car a bit
Starting point is 00:42:14 like we've got something here which it feels like signs is on board, but 2026 onwards, but at the same time he's looking at the car he's got now, like, this is all right. Are you laying a dollar short a little bit, unfortunately? Yeah, I think that there is that temptation, but it wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:42:31 For all the work they've done, a hard work they've done, I don't think it's worth it for Williams. Look, that car was excellent today. And I know signs obviously missed out with the two Ferraris in front, but I think the pace was there. he got being mugged off at the second
Starting point is 00:42:47 or sorry the last VSE well third one I think it was but the car had some genuinely good pacing the fact that it was even the fact that Carlos Sites having been dumped by Ferrari imagine saying to him race six Miami you are going to be battling
Starting point is 00:43:03 with the guy that's replaced you at Ferrari I think he'd have bitten your arm off so that itself is remarkable I know it's Ferrari have slightly fallen back and Williams have jumped up but still to be battling flying Ferrari is quite a big deal for Williams. And yeah, Albon continued to deliver us in 2025. Kimi Anthony Lee still picking up the chips that he was sent for by Albin
Starting point is 00:43:30 into term one after that VAC restart. That was an excellent, excellent move. And again, Williams overtaking Mercedes and not just, you know, off the off chance off a restart. He ever took him and then pulled away and went, see you later. which is so, so impressive. So, yeah, Williams, like I say, I think they will avoid the temptation to try and chase this more than they need to and keep focusing on next year.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But boy, oh boy, has it been a good year for them. Yeah, I mean, Alex Albin, who beat him today? An incredibly dominant car, a guy who benefited from the safety car where Albin didn't, and the four-time reigning world champion. That's not a bad list to lose to. He's done a fantastic job, and you're right, it's not just the fact that they're in the fight,
Starting point is 00:44:24 it's what they're able to really do with it. We saw with Jedder, there was a bit of an outstanding question of Carlos Seines and Alex Albin needed to help each other out a little bit to see if I's at Katja in 10th, and they didn't make an impression on the cars in front. And I did ask, like, could they have done? If they had no threats behind, could they have actually gone on to challenge any of the teams in front? On that day, we'll never know.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But on this day, yes, that car was capable of matching and beating Ferrari drivers. And it was capable and beating, it was capable of matching and beating Kimmy Antonelli and the Mercedes. I mean, Vastappen, it wasn't that close, but it's not like Vestappen pulled away by a huge amount. And again, we're talking about Max Verstappen and a Williams. This is incredible progress. They seemed both cars very quick out the blocks in terms of getting those tires warmed up, which is a good sign. They were quite a lot better than Mercedes in that regard.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And even late in the stints, I think the difference at the moment between Albin and signs is out the box pace. I don't think there's much separating them. Albin does seem to be better and better the longer a stint goes on versus his teammate. And that's, I think, where a lot of the difference came today. But yeah, Albin finishing fifth on pure pace, no luck, no DNFs required to get there. That is a great sign for them going forward. Carlos Sines, weirdly, and this is really weird to say, Carlos Sines has finished ninth in
Starting point is 00:46:01 Williams and I think he's underdelivered somewhat. How have we got to the point where a ninth place finishes it under-delivering for a William? based on what we saw from them last year. Mercedes, they finished third and sixth. So George Russell didn't seem to be happy with the car really all weekend long, but has ended up on the podium. Antonelli, of course, we saw him get the sprint race pole. Not such a good day today.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Still scoring some solid points, but down in sixth. Harry, how did you read both of their races? George Russell is a burger forever. He will just continue to burgle third places, even as you mentioned, even when he probably pace-wise didn't deserve to and he was, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:44 he benefited from the safety car, yes, but he was just in it in that fight today to make sure he could benefit from it. And that was always the possibility, you know, of starting on the hard tire. See, I think for Russell, you know, that's the best possible result
Starting point is 00:47:01 he could have hoped for based on how this weekend's gone for him. Antonelli, I mean, pace-wise, Antinelli continues to impress me massively. I can have no criticism. I know I joked about the move Albon pulling in, but I can have no criticism of his racecraft or some of the things that happened. I think he's had some lessons from the more experienced drivers this weekend.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You know, Piaastri, the start of the sprint race, Albon, as we mentioned there, and even the start of today's race, I think he got over-excited when he ended up in like P2. And then he, I think he cooked. I think he absolutely cooked and diets. Yeah, literally just screams and excitement. And, you know, a wiser head probably would have not gone so hard quite so soon.
Starting point is 00:47:50 But that you can lay really no blame at his feet on that one because he's so new to the sport. So Mercedes overall, yeah, kind of weird weekend, but I think they'll overall be pretty encouraged by how weather went here. I know we mentioned beforehand and Samu said this one probably was the last race you needed to be convinced that that's actually a solid car everywhere. I think it is. It's certainly not, it's not the, it's at no point really been the quickest. And Anthony Lidie's lap was so good on,
Starting point is 00:48:21 you know, on Friday. But it's just solid. And that in itself is doing, doing them some, you know, great service in terms of the points they're scoring. So,
Starting point is 00:48:33 um, yeah, I think they just kind of hope to unlock a little bit more pace out of it because that could really be, really be a, you know, a challenger. Yeah, I think it was, it was okay. And ultimately, they're doing what they need to do, which is whilst McLaren are way in front,
Starting point is 00:48:51 they are just taking advantage of only one Red Bull being in the fight and Ferrari keep tripping themselves up. And they're just ensuring they're not doing either of those things. They're having both of their drivers somewhat in the fight. And strategically, they're not doing any. of thing too horribly. They did have a couple of poor pit stops today. But outside of that, it was okay in terms of out and outpace. Russell, I was, again, he didn't seem comfortable with the car this weekend, but has come away with 15 points because he's George Russell.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I think he did a pretty good job in the second stint to manage the gap to Vestap, and it never looked like he was going to be under too much fret from him. I know the gap came down to like one and a half seconds or so, but he had to go a long way on the medium. So I think he did a good job just managing. those for the full stint. Antonelli, it might be unfair to say I was a little bit underwhelmed with the pace that he had. And maybe that's partly because he raised my expectations based on what he did earlier in the weekend, but I still would have liked to have seen a little bit more from him. I know he was overtaken by Albin. I'd like to have seen him
Starting point is 00:49:55 stay in that fight. Instead, he really fell off the back and was relying on Ferrari, tripping over themselves, not to have a fight over that sixth place. So it was okay. They're clearly not on the pace of the McLaren, but whilst they're not, what else can they do outside of a third place finish and the other guy being in the fight? Sam, any thoughts on Muck? I'll go out on a limb here and say that this was
Starting point is 00:50:20 Russell's worst weekend of the season so far, and that says a lot when the guy walks away with the third place at a podium. That tells you how good he is at the moment. That tells you how good his season's going at the moment. He wasn't happy with the cart at all. And I do think that, yeah, he'd be like a fitting from the way the VS.
Starting point is 00:50:36 he came out. And I do think that whoever it was that got the benefit, whether it was for Stappan or Russell, was going to end up being the guy that's finishing in third place. But he did a great job managing those tyres. He's complained multiple times throughout this weekend that he doesn't feel comfy on those tyres and maybe Mertley to make sure they look into this that it doesn't become a reoccurring issue where the tyres don't give enough purchase. But he did a really, really good job. I am more leaning towards what you said, Ben, about Antingelli. There was a couple of moments with Kimmy where I adore him and he's terrible. terrifies me. And yet he will go into a corner and I kind of look at the line he's taking. I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:51:12 why are you over there? Why is the car over there? Everyone else is doing the line over here. Why are you over here? And I'm like, it doesn't really make sense to me. And yet the camera will cut, it will pull away. And all of a sudden, he'll come out the other side. I'll go, okay, it's working. But I don't really understand how it's working or why it's working. His pace wasn't on it in the way that I thought it would be with how good his qualifying was. And that tells me that as a gang, as a rookie as we expected, his one lap pace in that Mercedes, which is a very solid car, is sensational.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I do think he's got enough to stick with George Russell completely. But there is still work to be done where it comes to managing a full race and its full race pace and the tires and the way that he deals with competition around him. Overall, they walk away with the second most points in the constructors for this Grand Prix. It keeps them in second place in the constructor's title fight. And they move ahead of the likes of Red Bull and Ferrari again. So even on an arguably okay day, it's still a very good result for them.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Let's turn our attention to Driver of the Day. The verdict is in. You're the driver of the day. You're the driver of the day. You're good at driving. Who gets the honour, Sam? I'm going straight young with Alex Alba. I thought he had a really, really brilliant performance to be at Mercedes,
Starting point is 00:52:30 to be both those Ferrari to be so far, in fact, with his teammate. That overtake on Antingalee was absolutely brilliant. He just did get a really, really solid job. Absolutely no errors, no notes, no mistakes. It was great to see them so high up. Album for me, one absolute G. Harry. Albono.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, it's three from three. What Sam said and what you said, Ben. Fair point. Alex Alvin gets driver of the day from all three of us, but what about? worst driver of the day. Get in the bin, bin, bin, bin, worst driver of the day.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Ben, bin, bin, worst driver of the day. You suck at driving. As to Martin, I don't care which one you go for. One of them spun and beat the other guy. That's the worst part,
Starting point is 00:53:25 again, a lot of so I was like just going to chuck a 360 for a bit of banter. I'm still going to be my team, mate. I'm so bored. What a waste of my life. This is. Yeah, there were 16 finishes in this Grand Prix. 15th and 16th were the Aston Martin drivers.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I don't know if you've seen as well relative to their pace. Like there were some comparisons going on between 2023 Miami and 2025 Miami and how this team has found two seconds in terms of qualifying lap time and this team has found one second and this team has found three quarters of a second and then there's Aston Martin who have somehow gained half a second. in two years.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Millions and millions and millions poured into it and they are now half a second slower. I went stroll because he lost to Alonzo, but I think both are fair shouts. Sam? I've made my points clear already. I'm about to make my points clear again on the next topic. Liam Lawson, sir, you are a terrorist.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, that's right. I'll say it. Oh, Lord. Oh, damn. Harry? Yeah, Lance, Lance, mate. As you said, your teammate spud and he still beat you. That's not ideal.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Not ideal day at the office. I'm not fully convinced that that team was there this weekend, to be honest. I'm not. Actually, they sent, like, an old Jordan or something. Yeah, painted it green. And yet, Lansstrollers walked away from this weekend with five points. How's that happened? I still don't know how his magic.
Starting point is 00:55:03 works. Yep. Keeps climbing. Keep on climbing. It had the season in like fifth place. I think he is currently still in the top half
Starting point is 00:55:14 of the driver's championship. Of course he is. He's got 14 points whereas Alonzo gets to go off the mark. Big brain strap. Bob, we're going to need you to box for wets.
Starting point is 00:55:27 What? It's not even raining out. What are you talking about? Yeah, and Bob, if you're get a chance Larry, what have you got? Just Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:55:49 It was in this part of the podcast was invented for them and they duly delivered today. There was no strategy, to be honest, with that swapping. I'm not sure there was any logic or communication or thought that went behind it.
Starting point is 00:56:11 So congratulations. It's, oh, we're so back. We'd like, we properly back this time with them. It's really hurting my brain because, like, in all of the irony in the world, if they didn't have any logic, any communication, any strategy at all, it would have worked out better for them. It would have just would have left. Because LeClaire would have just been there, which is what they ended with anyway.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah. To end up with the same. situation you started with, despite doing all that work, utterly pointless. You know the phrase works smarter and got harder? They like to work harder. No work, no harder. No hard. No working a result.
Starting point is 00:56:58 All the working a result. I'm going to go for something that isn't Ferrari-based, which is something semi-serious, which was between Ocon and Hadja. I've been very critical of the racing bulls strategy this year. They nailed it with Hatcher today. They managed to bring him in the lap before Ocon, whilst O'Conn was defending from Lewis Hamilton, which in hindsight might have been a futile attempt
Starting point is 00:57:25 because Hadja's undercut was unreal. And as soon as O'Con came back out, he'd got the undercut done. and Ocon was there for like a good 10-20 laps it felt like but he couldn't do anything about actually overtaking the racing balls car. It's ultimately not going to cost them any points, I don't think, because they did finish 11th and 12th. But yeah, I think this is an area where Hasse has been actually pretty good this year and racing balls haven't, but it flipped a bit with this one.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Sam? Mine is also a serious one. I'll forgive it to Ferrari, but Harry's polished that one off. I think it's nice to have a bit of everything. variation, but mine is a serious one in a negative sense. I have to ask the question. We had three VSCs across this race. One of them was brought up by Gabby Bortoletto, which at this point, his
Starting point is 00:58:13 teammate hadn't pitted yet. Why did he pit under Green Flagg racing, which then cost him an extra 10 seconds in the box and stopped him getting anywhere near the points where he was at that moment in ninth place. I don't know, but he decided, I just wait. I just wait to Green Flag, even though everyone around me is stopping under the VSC. I just wait. I just wait for it when it's the slow stuff anyway, so thanks, guys. Did Hulk pick twice?
Starting point is 00:58:39 He only picked once. He started on the hard time. Yeah. So that's why that's that pit stuff. When I saw it, I was like, well, that must be his second stop because he's not. No, no, no, no. It was just that badly timed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Good stuff. Good stuff indeed. Let's take our final break on this episode. And on the other side, we've got Moment of the Race. Come back to the final part of today's review of the Miami. Grand Prix and we have moment of the race submissions coming up shortly. Before we do, though, all three of us have got a moment of the race lined up. And we'll start with Sam.
Starting point is 00:59:29 What have you got? I'm going to leave the obvious ones to everyone else because we all know what, something's going to get shouting out at one point, which might go into radio of the year at the end of the season. But for me, it was a little thing that happened after the race, which is ironic. Piastri is hitting the gritty. Yeah. Just throwing that down.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I'm just like, yeah, my boy. I loved it. I love it. He's getting into the groove. He's got a hat trick, baby. Throw down the gritty, my guy. Why not? I might start doing it after little things I do in life.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Just gritty. Folks, for those who are watching, the whole team is shaking their hands. Also, I've got the family front shoot X button, but I should do. Sam, you have to do the equivalent of win McLaren's first three consecutive races since like 1998,
Starting point is 01:00:16 and then you can throw the grid. Exactly, exactly. Someone in the comments work out what that is for me, and I'll do it and throw the gritty. Camera just turns off. My moment of the race, it was difficult to pin down one thing because you could just say Ferrari full stop.
Starting point is 01:00:38 But there was one particular moment about the whole Ferrari saga that really sent me, as in I started laughing out loud. And this is, at least according to, to, and Davidson at the skybox. But of course, we already had the one position swap. And then there was a question mark about whether there would be a second one with Charles Leclair going back by Lewis Hamilton.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And they say, don't worry, shall, we'll try again next lab. But they had told Hamilton, you need to do that, but you've got to tell the driver that you want the switch to happen. You know what? we'll have to try again. Should we tell him that we wanted to do that? Nah, he'll work it out. Like,
Starting point is 01:01:25 but it's the same, the first time round, because... I did it twice. Hamilton was having all this conversation, and then as soon as they told her, Clay, he just did it. There was no, like, oh, we're thinking about this. Yeah, but the second time,
Starting point is 01:01:37 there was actual confusion as to why it hadn't happened. The drivers aren't the problem. We're aware of this. The drivers are not the issue at Ferrari. They were so confused. why Lecler hadn't let him by, despite the fact that they hadn't told him
Starting point is 01:01:52 that's what they'd like to do. Sure. Harry, your moment of the race. Firstly, a shout-out, and this is only relevant to Sky F1 viewers, but on the grid, Jack Whitel being absolutely sourced. My man was so hammered.
Starting point is 01:02:11 It was so hammered. I appreciate that a lot. But I am going for the perfectly times camera cut, the very end of the race to just, Carlos Sines grinding his way alongside Lewis Hamilton, just, and obviously then we found out what he did, which made it even better, but that as an attempt, there was some sort of attempt to make that corner.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah, I attempt at murder. Yeah. I appreciate it. It felt like he was just like, this was justice for being done from that scene. He's like, nah, I'm going to have him. I didn't even put it off, but, you know, I respected it. It was the slowest, like, wheel to wheel grind I've seen for a while.
Starting point is 01:02:54 It's just the way it cut, and they were just having an accident. Yeah. Like, very slowly. Yeah. How were your breaks today, Carlos? Not bad. It was Lewis Hamilton. Thanks, my guy.
Starting point is 01:03:08 That's our moment of the race from the three of us, but we do have plenty of Discord submissions to get through. So, Harry, who's up first? Thank you, everyone, for your submissions. There were a lot of you. First up, we have got dumb electrician. From the highs of the double overtake on signs to the lows of the sassy messages to the pit wall, Ferrari proving they are the Dallas Cowboys of Formula One. Yaha.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Thanks, you translate. It's painfully true. It's painfully true. Big brand You made this comparison Yeah Live show I did
Starting point is 01:03:50 It is so true Is that the one That Lewis Hamilton invested in No He invested in the Denver Broncos Can you imagine me irony Yeah true
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah Taking a break From the busy day On the pit ball We've now got Ferrari strategy team With a submission Hello loads
Starting point is 01:04:09 Man and the race Is me and the boys At the Ferrari Pit Wall just messing our drivers around 15 laps, swapping, unswapping, swapping again, just because we've got nothing better to do, you know. No higher points to try and get, so we'll mess around with our drivers. That is great, banter.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I love the one British contingent of the Italian strategy team of Ferrari. It's actually on his tea break. Thank you for that strategy team. Rehatch is next, who I believe is a first-timey. What's up, late breakers, first time, long time, rehatch here. My moment of the race was, and I can't believe to say, I'm going to say it, the whole Miami Grand Prix, actual overtaking in the first in the Ferrari's capacity chaos and signs crashing into Lewis in the last corner. What a banger.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Don't forget those five stars you found in the shorts from last year. Keep breaking late. Nice. Love that. Thank you. Thank you, Rehatch. Georgia from Georgia is next. I love that.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Georgia from Georgia here. and while I could talk about having a tea break or whatever was happening between Leclair's legs, I think it's really about Oscar scampering away with the lead. That's my moment of the race. Yes, in between the leg, chat is back. Why was he so? Why did he have to say it like that?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah, well, he knew what he was doing. Can we also just maybe not? Mobbidness is next. Hello, everybody, Mobbiness here for the moment of the race. Miami. My moment of the race is probably the world's ugliest battle between the two Ferrari cars. It's just really hideous cars going back and forth and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Go on, exactly. Ugly cars racing hideously. I appreciate that. Racing slowly and hideously is like the worst combo. Yeah, I got no sympathy for Ferrari. They deserve it for their livery. Yeah. Nick the Quick is next.
Starting point is 01:06:10 What's up, Blake Breakers? Nick the quick Low-key banger of a race It's pretty good, I guess Moment of the race gotta be Oscar doing the Gritty after a win Did not see that one coming Also, Max, please pick up the phone from Toto
Starting point is 01:06:27 Anyway, keep breaking late God, I can't wait to pull it, really It's so good Please don't I'm not going I've not coming I've actually just cancelled the flights serious question
Starting point is 01:06:42 a couple of people have said this was a banger of the six races so far where does it stack up it's a good question and one
Starting point is 01:06:51 I'm not willing to answer right now why why being so coy I imagine you did that for every single question of the podcast I'm not not going to answer that
Starting point is 01:07:01 actually you wait to Wednesday activate it's his job I'd say second to Australia that one yeah i think i think that's fair
Starting point is 01:07:14 all right was pretty good as well yeah i thought you went answer to this question piped up yeah bushy is next gooday fellas bushy in here moment of the race would have to be the race before the race
Starting point is 01:07:30 watching all the drivers one back the clock turned into five year olds driving them legal cars absolutely hilarious loved every second of it cheers team I actually hate how good a brand placement that was. Yeah, respect.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I'm real marketing. Hate it when Lego do something right. It's always the worst. You're really not to pick your battles in life, Lego. For damn it, Lego. Done it again. You've fooled me again. You smash it again.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Stead on you again. I'll get on a bit tonight. What's Grudian? Next up it. Ah, Gritty. The liggy. The Lego gritty. Oh my lord.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Next time, it's too late to do this. Next up is Joy. This race was absolutely delicious, but not as delicious as that sneaky Lewis overtake with Charles and Carlos. I thought that was a start of an M&S advert for a second. This is a guy from race. This is like a fun race. as you said, Sam,
Starting point is 01:08:43 Crofty was itching to say it, wouldn't he? He was actually gagging. Yeah. And he saw the Claire go through like, God, damn it. I've got to curate what I'm saying. Yeah. Because he said it and it like tailed off
Starting point is 01:08:55 as he saw the Claire was back in front. And through goes Hamilton. Pure cringe. Just pure cringe. Not the worst thing he said all weekend. Somehow. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Oh. Finally, last but not least is Pogo Stick Dog. What's up, late break? My moment, the race for Miami is plain and simple. The win for Oscar Piastri. Good job, Oscar, three in a row. First time in a long time. Thor McClain who's got three wins in a row.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And Oscar looks like the man who's favourite for the championship at the moment. Subscribe for the Patreon. Big up Pogo Stick Dog. The best thing that Crofty King has Segel weekend is Pogo Sick Dog. It's mad that. the last time we had McLaren had three consecutive wins was in 1997 and 1998.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And even then it was over two seasons. Yeah. That's crazy. You guys were one. Yeah. Yep. I remember it well. I was still 73 at that point.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Harry, you know when you said it's too late to be doing this, I think you're right. That does it for moment of the race and that does it for this episode. Sam, before we go, though, we have plenty more coming up. We've got power rankings that we'll be recording tomorrow. And then, of course, we'll be back for a standard episode midweek. Yeah, Matt's not all. We've got two Patreon episodes coming up that we're going to be recording. We'll be doing our classic F1 review as well,
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Starting point is 01:10:48 Gorgeous men. Youth, yes. Exactly. I am the youngest of us all. And we'll see you on Wednesday. In the meantime, I've been Samuel Sage. I've been Ben Hocking. And I've been Harry Ead. And remember, keep breaking late.
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