The Late Braking F1 Podcast - 2025 Testing Review!

Episode Date: March 2, 2025

The next time we see F1 cars on track will be at the first race weekend of the season! But first, the LB boys break down Bahrain testing and ask who's looking strong and who might be playing catch-up. Also on today's episode, there's disagreement on Monaco’s new tyre rule, reaction to Hamilton’s TIME interview, and a game of Back and Forth! FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League EMAIL us at [e-mail]   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. To the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. F1 is getting ever so close now. We are into March. Sam, the last word we said before we hit record was punk. Yeah, I mean, that's very late breaking.

and it's because we were threatening our own cameras. So there's a bit of behind the breaking for you. That's what I, before we hit record, I jokingly said, are you looking at me, punk? I'm going to cough, which is great. It's a great start for the show. You've been that. Really enjoy that in your ears.

Yeah, anyway, we've had testing. We've got lots to talk about. Monaco's excellent changes. Hopefully it's been destroyed from the earth. And we've got games coming up. Ben, loads acting. Yeah. Who needs my summary when Sam has just very accurately described Monaco as being blown up?

Sorry, Monica. There are some changes to the Monaco Grand Prix. That's not one of them, but we will get to the ones that have been made. A little bit on Lewis Hamilton as well, F1 back and forth coming up later on. But let's start with testing, which took place earlier this week. Three days of testing this year that took place at Bahrain. Sam, let's start with you. I'm going to open the floor.

Not necessarily going to take you one direction or another. Just anything that caught your eye. Yeah, the first thing that caught my eye was Ollie Baerman's engine cover flying down the road. Here's some... You're driving a hass, right? Not an Aster Martin. Well, a lot of things did you fly off sports cars

or race cars around the Middle East. Weight shedding, mate. I see it. Engine cooling. Yeah. Yeah, that was coming. So in the races, Haas, I know you're cooking,

don't cook that hard. That shoot me falling off. Or a serious note, I'm going to start with ringing drivers champion, Max Stapping, and the team that he is outfitting for, as always, Red Bull. They did not have a smooth testing

in the Middle East. They had a water leak issue on Liam Lawson's car. They were clearly struggling with some mass understeer, which I thought was highlighted heavily by the flow viz being put onto one side of the car on most of the car

on multiple occasions throughout the entire three days that was late in the test as well. Really late in the test. And I can't remember who it was now that supplied the quote, but came out and said, this test has not gone smoothly. And we've got some issues that need to be resolved. And I think Red Bull are on the back foot.

Because I mean they're going to be slow. No, I'm sure Red Bull will easily find their ways through it. We know what they're like. But for me, Red Bull are maybe the slowest of the top four right now in terms of security and overall comfortable pace They were the ones that shot me the most with where I felt they sat on those longer runs. I thought they'd be a little bit closer. And Max Verstappen, I don't know if you'll get a fine for this or not,

but there were a few instances of him raising the middle finger to his own car and some of the team. So not please, not best please. So Red Bull for me would the immediate jump out of struggling more than I expected. Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't think the pace was too bad, but it looked a real handful. There was a lap quite late on on the. third day of testing. And Vestappen's going fairly quickly at this point.

But he has having to work so hard every corner to get it to do what he wants it to do. Like it just did not look nice whatsoever. Harry, any key standouts for you? I think just on that Vastafin point, he'll win races this year, I think, but he will be hustling with the capital, ha, to get that, to get that car to work. Key stand up of me I'm going to go with Coloschein and the Williams

Is that how we say it now? Yep Look I I don't think there were glory runs by Williams and Ben you're very sad about the fact that were no proper glory runs at the end What are you doing Salba

Yeah Bortoletto come on It's your dream She dreamed to drive that But I think A collar signs How well And we know this about

signs because he's changed teams. He's been at every team basically now in F1. He's changed teams a lot. But every time he has adapted very quickly. And I think that was evident already. And I think it was album, wasn't it? In the Combs box saying, complimenting him and how well that he's got up to speed,

said with a little bit of worry in his voice. But anyway, Oh, God. It's quite good. He's not Logan, Saad. Yeah. But I think that, you know, that reflects, that reflects on how well signs was driving in the test.

But Williams as a whole, I'm not saying they're going to jump to the front of the field, but they look much more solid than they did last year. And obviously, there was highlighted that they beat the time they did in quality, 2024, Bahrain already on day one. Now I know they didn't read too much into times, but you can't, you can't not when they're that evident. But the car looks good. The car that's good, pretty good out there.

So, you know, they could be up there with, maybe they're up there with that P5 fight with Aston Martin if that's where we think they're going to be. Whoa, whoa, wow. Oh, we're done. Oh, we're done. They're up there in that P5 fight. I don't think the words Aston Martin is going to be entering out now anytime soon. Hey, Adrian knew he starts work tomorrow. Oh, good. He's going to walk in there and see one doors come off.

Foranda how long time's next retired. A lot stroll's the only man standing. He used to go, oh, I quit. Strauss not the only man standing. He was ill. That's true. He's in the toilet. Fernando's he no one standing. The Astin Martin wants a weird one, because they seem like they are happier with the car, but it doesn't look, unless they're really are hiding it.

But everyone seems to be happier with it, but then they're like, just don't look that good still. There's a bit of a strange one, whether they are highly, I don't know, but interesting one. They're focused a lot

on the drivability of the car and making it just nicer to drive, which seems to be the case, but it's still got to go quick. Things that make cars nicer to drive, Aircon,

nice radio, sunroof, maybe. That's what they got in there now. Alon's old. He's just, give me the home comfort. Seats for the colder races. Not going any faster, though, are we, Aston Martin?

I was quite worried, actually more so than any other team. Ashton Martin with a team that made me go, it doesn't look like they feel particularly quick in comparison to where they were. Again, it's only testing, can you rig so much into it. But Williams were the team that jumped out to me is immediately, what seems most improved. By most improved, I mean, I think they'll be fighting in that midfield region. And Aston Martin, who are leading that midfield region,

I think are going to be a little bit further back. And they're either hoping that Adrian Nui walks in and makes some immediate impactful changes, or they're going to have to really grit their teeth and knuckle down. I hope that 2026 is a huge springboard back up the grid again because it doesn't feel positive. I think Andy Cowell said that they've discovered a lot of areas in the car that need a lot of development and a lot of focus because it's not looking positive. Yeah, I will join you both in saying that Williams really stood out. And a lot was made of both Williams and Alpine and how far they've come from last year's test

and how they were quite a bit quicker in this test than they were in qualifying 12 months ago at the Bahrain Grand Prix. I think the difference between both Williams and Alpine who both had, I think, pretty good tests. Williams, Alpine is much a continuation from where they were at the end of last season, where they did pick up pace throughout the last few Grand Prix.

Williams seem to have made a lot of. progress in the off season because we didn't see this from them in Abu Dhabi and Qatar, right? The last couple of races of 2024, whatever the reason is, I know they had a big problem with the weight of the car last year, whether they've really solved that. But there's something that they've done that I think does point to them, at least at the start of the season, being somewhere a bit more competitive in the midfield. I think my biggest takeaway was, and it's a bit of a generic one, this was very,

this was very obviously the last year of a set of regulations because there were across three days of running and I don't know how many laps were completed by the 10 teams overall it's probably in the region of I don't know 3,500 across three days higher we're not playing that one today sorry the biggest thing way was like these cars are just bulletproof at this point like the biggest reliability issues we had

were track-related with broken glass, a power outage, and our bus on the track. All of the problems were not with the cars, which, yeah, I think it is largely in part the fact that we've had a number of years on these sets of regulations now, and everyone seems to be very comfortable, even the likes of Red Bull, as you mentioned, who didn't have a smooth test, Aston Martin similarly didn't get that many laps under their belt compared to the competition. they still both did over 300 laps. That's 100 laps a day. They still did what will work out to be like 5.5 Grand Prix.

So no one had a horrendous test. I don't think. No. But there were a couple of controversies that have come out of testing, as they always are. Red Bull have already started declaring that people are cheating, which is great. Within the first three days of the new season, which you love to see it.

They don't be sleeping or go cheaters. and mini DRS wars apparently are back, baby DRS as I'm going to coin it. You know, you've got Mario and baby Mario, well now we've got DRS and baby DRS and baby DRS. And that is, for those who aren't aware, the flexing of the rear wing once you achieve very high speed. And essentially, the Air Force flexes that rear wing back to give a more streamlined approach to the car, allowing for higher top speeds. Mercedes being the main culprit of this, and Mercedes I thought were actually, it had a really strong testing. I thought them and Ferrari in their longer runs looked very comparable, just behind McLaren, I think.

And that tells me that they are trying to actually do stuff where it seems they may understand what a Formula 1 now. Do you know what Barrein was a week? What's that? Very cold. Very cold. Yeah, that's remained a lot and it was cold. It'll be hot in Melbourne and there'll be last.

I mean, it's so true. It's so true. This is why Tessing you can't read into it. But McLaren and Ferrari, Mercedes, all look like they've got a little bit of flet. And then we've got some interesting movements on the front wing as well with the end plates moving with the tires. And bumping up and down his bang is gratefully displaying with his hands. It's going to be a real war of words, I think, with kind of aerodynamic chat.

And if anyone is experts at aerodynamic chat, it's this podcast. Stay right here. Don't turn off, please. Don't change the channel. Please. Oh, dear. I think the test is a whole. did buy into the idea that

we might still get a very close season because whilst there are a few saying that McLaren might have a small advantage, most don't think it's a landslide. And Red Bull and Mercedes and Ferrari, like you say, Red Bull didn't have a smooth test, but pace-wise,

those four teams still look to be, you can still throw a blank over them. There doesn't seem to be much in it. And you're right, I do think this buys into the idea that mini DRS wars probably isn't over. We know that front wing flex is allowed until the Spanish Grand Prix

and we might well see, we might well see whatever the picture is right now be the case for the first, however many races that is, and then we get something different after Spain, but yeah, I don't think those war of words are done. Harry, you've been on the hype train

that this could be a very close season. Did the test enforce that idea? or did it make you less encouragement? Encouraging it that one. What do you think? I've added two more carriages to that train. Oh, blind me. Better than Great Western Rail over it.

I mean, it's not going too far, mate. G.W.R. for the win. Difficult. It's very conflicting appeals there, folks. That's a man who has to catch a lot of GWR trains. 90% of my search history is delay repay. Folks, if you're not from the UK, Great Western Railway, it's the railway for the West.

And it's great. It's great. Western Rail. Of all the things it claims to be, Western is the only one that's true. It's not a railway, it is not great. Average Western Railway. Right. Look, I still think, you're right.

I think McLaren clearly look like the other favourites. But you were just saying about the weather and how representative testing was. I know we used to go to Barcelona and they've moved it to Bahrain making more representative. Might as well have been in, I don't know, in the UK at Silverstone.

It was the weirdest bar rain we've had in a long time. It's so strange. Weather was cold, rainy. Electricity didn't work. It just didn't work. There was a bus.

I think day through was probably the most representative. But given that fact, I think there's a lot of variables still in there that we've, which means we don't fully know the picture. But it looks, it looks close.

And I'm hopeful that if it looks that close in testing when you actually get into a competitive situation when everyone is putting their cards on the table that it will be it will be a close season and even if McLean have a slight edge we've seen last year it doesn't matter if you've got the fastest car they can be silly so there are there are many things that happen and if it's that close there'll be pressure and that's when people crack because pressure for tires precious for tires. Yeah, I love how our second segment is going to be tire chat as well.

Alex Shearer is the special guest. He's not, folks. Sam would pop. I wouldn't be on the show. I have died. Yeah, I think if you look back to Lassie's testing as well, Red Bull was so dominant there. And it was a true reflection, but it lasted for six races. So McLaren having an advantage now, maybe they didn't have an advantage for five races.

There was no G-piece mining like a man. menace lap from anyone this time. So that's a good sign. Hasse last year basically had no intention of going quickly and testing whatsoever, just focusing on long runs. Sam, it seemed a fairly similar test from them again this year. Kamatsu said afterwards it wasn't a perfect test, but equally he was content going into the new season.

Some suggesting that they didn't run any laps at all without at least half a tank of fuel in the car. Do you think that maybe they'll be more competitive than what they showed? I think Haas might not know if they're going to be more competitive or not if they showed. They really didn't do any light runs at all

for the entire three days. But what was promising for Haas and, you know, Kamatsu hasn't left that kicksharing a year and a bit now is they looked really positive on their longer runs. And clearly their developments are moving them towards battling through midfield scenarios, having to challenge with that heavier fuel settings

from the tires are working long form for them. There's a lot to be gained on long form race pace. If you can perform an overcut or you can make the undercut work where you've got to push ahead on heavier fuel, you can really make up positions there. And it looks as though their tactic is, hey, with someone like Behrman in the car, and Ocock, who is good at qualifying,

but there's ever being, you know, one of these qualifiers we talk about as being sensational, you've lost Holgerberg, for example, who is very good at qualifying. why not focus on that long-form run pace where we have got drivers that can make tyres work long-term that maybe want to drive and clean air for long periods of time to jump their opposition? I was oddly buoyed by Harses' ability

to really put together long-form pace and it actually look very competitive. So overall, good test from Hars. Let's just hope they're not so slow in one-lap pace that they may be starting 17th and 18th because that will really defeat the object. Harry, before we stop talking about testing and move on to the next topic, if we're not looking specifically at teams and drivers

and we're just looking at testing as a whole, any changes to testing required, do you think, for the next couple of years? Um, I don't think, I don't dislike the way. I think it was a weird test and that was just a lot of odd stuff happened. Funny. Just funny, isn't it? More buses. More buses.

No, less buzzes. I enjoy the fact that it rained and only T-Tunes brought intermediate ties. That's just, that is funny. I mean, you don't expect it in Bahrain, but still, you'd at least bring one set, surely. Anyway. That's the bottom of all three. They had the weather report. Are we sure they know what's going on?

Are we sure they're okay? Hey, it rained. So anyway, but generally, I think it's three days testing. you get on with it. If the cards, as you mentioned, Ben, are so reliable now. They don't need more than that. They've done so many laps already. More laps than they used to do over like six days of testing.

So I don't think I'd change it. Maybe you mix up the circuit. I don't know. But Bahrain generally is quite a good place to go. It's just odd weather this year. Well, just kick any rookies in for like half a day, make it mandatory for them to have half a day of running. I think I'd do that elsewhere.

Yeah. Leave testing for testing. Testing for testing. Yeah. When testing was testing. It wasn't woke. It wasn't woke testing. It's a joke.

It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a woke joke. It's a woke. So in a conclusion, no. Good stuff. Thanks, Harry. Yeah, I know a few drivers like Alonzo said in the past.

I think Carlos Sines had some comments this weekend as well about they need more time in the cars. Nah, get on with it. I think three days is absolutely fine. I don't mind the idea of adding half a day of mandatory running for a rookie, or even if you made it four days and then you had one day for the rookies. I think from a pure cost-saving perspective, it would make a lot of sense to keep it at the same event, although I'd take your point as well, Harry,

that maybe you should just leave testing for, for testing. But yeah, the cars are reliable enough now. Maybe I wouldn't be disappointed of losing a day if it's not like the first year or two of a set of regulations. I'm fine with like next year, for example, being three days.

I wouldn't mind it going down to two in all honesty. Imagine if, sorry to cut in on you. Yeah, yeah, of course. Imagine if part of where you've finished in the championship alluded to how much on-track testing time you got at the start of the season. I mean, we've already got that with wind tunnel time. Maybe that's the next stuff.

They used to do that with, this is like the noughties, but free practice time. Like lower teams get an extra session or something, wouldn't they? They got the Friday session. Yeah, like there was one extra Friday. So, yeah, Friday morning. I mean, you imagine if we opened it up to four days of testing and Salber and Williams and R.B. You got all four days. And then, you know, you get three days for that midfield and the top four and he got two days.

that could be quite interesting. Yeah, maybe so. The other point I'd make as well, I would have testing on a circuit that isn't on the calendar. Agreed. I just would like a completely neutral venue for that. I would offer up Snetterton.

That is my one only option. In January. What's the weather here in January? Cold. So, Fernando, what did you love from this test? Nothing. I'm very cold. I'm still cold.

Mercedes 15 seconds clear of everyone. Total like we're still getting a lose, guys. Okay, that'll do it for the late-breaking testing review. Obviously, relating to testing, we've got predictions coming up in our next episode on Wednesday, so you can hear more about what we think might happen for the 2025 season. We're going to take our first break at this point.

On the other side, we've got some Monaco chat. Yay. Welcome back. everyone. Full disclosure here. This could have been on the list of topics that we discussed on Wednesday. But Harry wasn't here and I really wanted Harry and Sam to be here for this one.

And that is because we're talking about the Monaco Grand Prix, which will now receive from this season onwards an additional mandatory pit stop to promote more eventful racing as the FIA ratified new rules at its latest commission meeting. An FIA statement released on

Wednesday said the WMSC reviewed a proposal regarding the implementation of a mandatory two-stop strategy in both wet and dry conditions for the Monaco GP with the primary intent of improving the sporting spectacle of this race. Following recent discussions in the F-1 Commission, a specific requirement for the Monaco GP has been approved mandating the use of at least three sets of tires in the race with a minimum of two different tire compounds to be used if it's a dry race. Harry it's messing with the fabric of the Monaco GP you must hate this

I I've gone back and forth to quote the game we're playing later you're going to be great at that later on you've got prepping it's Monaco stops as well that's the category how many stops are there one two game over

I'm not against doing things to try and change up the race at Monaco because I'll admit it's it can often not be that exciting and my argument's always been for Monaco is just purely for qualifying because I think it's the best of the year

so I'm not against it I just I don't think this is going to make a jot of difference I just feel like it won't it won't matter if there are two stops or one stop I think it will I think it will the problem we had last year

last year last year was so does because there is a red flag. So some people just changed tyres at the red flag, right? And then didn't stop at all. You still need two stops after that red flag, right? What do you need? What two stops or one stop after that red flag? If you have two rig flags in the race and you change your tyres both times,

no stops. It's a no stop race. I don't think the law has changed the rig flag. Is it the stops or the tires? Well, that's it, isn't it? They're talking about a mandatory pit stop. but if the rule is specifically you're changing to compounds

compound of tyres but the compound they're still only saying you need to use two different compounds so you have to change your tyres twice interesting my point being

last year was extra frustrating because some had already changed it didn't then actually make a pit stop during the race so because I think the pit stops they don't tend to change much about the race

anyway. So I'm hesitant as to whether this will make a difference. I'm sure there will be some, it will make some movement in the race and it will give a different strategic element that we've not had previously because it's been traditionally just one stop. You either stop early and fight your way back through

or you stop really late, you wait until the last possible moment or you wait for a safety car. And I think having two stops, you'll get similar situations. just repeat it twice. I've seen, I think it was Bernie Collins made a point saying,

yes. You'll get back markers stopping lap one, lap two, and then see if they can see if they can just hang it out to, hang out to dry until, until the end. Or something like that, yeah. But if that was the case,

they could do that now, but just with one stop. So why don't they? You don't see anyone coming in lap one. I ask every year. Why? Why doesn't someone do that? did Sergio Perez do it?

Last year. Not last year because he obviously retired on the first lap. But I feel like he did it to a couple of years ago or something. Maybe. Could be wrong. Or maybe I thought he should have done it and he didn't. He didn't, yeah. I,

like, remains to be seen. It might make him more exciting. I just don't think it's going to make, there are other things about F1. They need to change to make me want to go exciting. And I'm not sure Majesty 2 Stoltz is going to do much. Sam, are you in favour of this? I cannot believe.

we've come to Monaco chat and Harry you and I are on exactly the same opinion of this. It's the first time we've ever agreed on anything Monaco related. Ben's going to be well annoyed because you saved this just for us and we've agreed. Literally gone, yeah, no change. You'll go from having what, one minute of excitement in the Monaco Grand Prix where the pit stops happen to two minutes of excitement in the Monaco Grand Prix where the pit stops happen. And the issue is what makes. a Grand Prix exciting the threat of an overtake, right? You have to get the overtake done,

but a battle for the lead, a battle for podiums where there's a chance that a move could be made is what makes a Grand Prix exciting. Someone charting through the field, someone who plays a clever game or overcut, undercut, maybe someone who does the switchback when you're over again. You can't do any of this really because you either get caught up with traffic or there's no space to get the move done. The problem is fundamentally the issue with the racetrack and the way that model Formula One cars are built. size that I went to FY exhibition a few weeks ago,

those cars are wider than my house. It's quite literally like driving a double-decker bus around a country lane. It's, you can't get another one passed. And unfortunately, fundamentally, that stops the race being exciting. Cool, I'll get to watch another pit stop. But if the field is spread

and we haven't got any chance of it being, I don't know, an unlucky pit stop where you get a botus situation or is in there for 38 seconds, I think he's still having his time. change now, actually, then you won't really get too much change. Yes, you might get the odd time where someone's pit stop means they muck it up. Okay, we have a slight probability that that might happen now more than we did.

But I don't think it's going to make the race more exciting across the entire 78 laps that we're going to get. And if the red flag rule is going to play, where actually we happen to get two red flags, which in Monaco is not against the rules of impossibility, we'll just get no changes again. The issue is with the track and the cars, not with having pit stops or not. And so for me, this doesn't really change anything.

I'll get maybe an extra minute and a half of going, oh, someone's doing something. And then it's back to normality again. I'm not buying it. It would be really funny if we've uncovered this massive loophole with this whole red flag, tires, mandatory stops thing. And they're not thought about it. it'd just be really funny if we've done that.

I'll take the other side. It's fine. I'm for it. And I don't necessarily think you're wrong with what you're saying. I think, Sam, you might be right. Instead of one minute of excitement, we get two minutes of excitement. But I'll take the two.

You've doubleed it. You've absolutely doubled it. Is that desperate for any fall of excitement in his life? Two minutes of excitement is my nickname. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh, no. I'm not saying this will transform the race because it does feel like a plaster rather than... You're right. The fundamental issue is the cars. It's not the number of pit stops. But if the option is a plaster or no plaster,

I'll take the plaster. Like, it's... Give me something. I've always said, I'm okay with Monaco staying on the calendar as long as we just collectively admit it doesn't work in its current format. Qualifying is brilliant. The race is very rarely brilliant. Like the last couple of years, well, I mean, we've had before 2024, we had two years

in a row where we had rain in some form, which helped a little bit. But 2024 is closer to what the average Monaco Grand Prix is, which let's face it, just pretty dull. And yes, we need to, we need lighter cars. We need smaller cars so Monaco can work again. But if it's going to stay on the calendar with these current cars, we need to,

I don't know, deviate away from the norm. I'm happy for them to do that. I think it could create some interesting scenarios. Harry raised the one that Bernie Collins raised about, could you get drivers pitting on lap one and lap two? It could throw up some interesting strategies because you could try something like the other way around and go hang for two safety cars late on.

I'm not sure that would work, but you could get someone pit on, say, the first lap of the race, then go hang for a safety car and take advantage of it. Imagine if, say, a backmarker pits on the first lap and then on the 20th lap, when nearly everyone else hasn't made their first stop, there's a safety car and you take your second stop. And you've basically at that point got all the cars behind the safety car in a line, except you've done both of your stops and everyone else has only done one. You're in a really good position at that point. So it could... And then a red flag is throwing and then everyone gets to change their tires anyway. And that's the game over. Sure. That's where things, things mark up. But yeah,

I think it could be, it could throw up some interesting strategies. It could mean the two stops as well in terms of the pit windows, like the end of the first pit window could merge into the beginning of the second pit window as well. It could work. It could also not work. These are very clever teams that might all decide the same strategy is the best. And we just get what we've got with a one-stop strategy where there isn't any creative thinking at all. Or there is creative thinking, but all of the creative thinking goes into the same strategy. But I'll give it a go. Why not? I think, sorry, Harry, I know, I was just going to say, the positive you get is that you will avoid a Aston Martin's scenario from last year where Fernando was doing his best yarn and trilly impression. So Lance could make a free pit stop.

Obviously, it didn't work. Score points, right? Yeah, yeah. The execution. The American Skywalker Padme, baby. Score points, right? Right. Smirking at camera.

But what I mean is that wouldn't even be a viable, unless it was for the second. stop, at least for the first stop, you couldn't do that. And by that point, maybe it wouldn't be possible. So you do avoid that sort of. You do have the risk of the undercut. Yeah, you're right. There is the chance of, you know, Daniel Ricardo with his bad engine, is leading the Grand Prix.

And so actually, he's only done one fit stop. So I'm going to get it in the pit now. And I'll drive straight up to the back of him again. He's going to have to get out my way or be disqualified. There is that option. Yes. I think a positive out of this is everyone has recognized that Moira and its current guys is not really fit for purpose.

And I think whether it takes. another five years or whatever it might be, we are clearly starting to see some movement from the very, very top end of the sport going, we recognize that this is a wonderful historic place. It has so much history within Formula One. Qualifying is spectacular. There needs to be some change to the race.

And I think it's good to see we're starting to make those adjustments. And hey, we might have two stocks. It might be the best Monaco Grand Prix I've ever bloody seeing. Who knows? Maybe they've done some calculations and they know something I don't, highly possible. But there's also a heavy... the chance that we might get the same thing.

I mean, I am intrigued this year to see how it goes. Harry, are you surprised that they didn't just say you need to use all three of the dry compound tires? Yeah, because, well, yeah, because then I was going to say maybe it gives options for using some go softer compound and some go a harder compound, but that's just that's something that's going to happen, is it? Because they'll all just go the harder compound because it's one ago. So yeah, I'm surprised I didn't go down this room.

maybe they thought enforcing three stops would be too much. We had it in Qatar a couple of years ago. So it's not beyond the rounds of possibility. I know that was a safety issue, but it's not like it's never been done before. So again, doing that, I just, where do you stop? Because I don't, again,

see what massive difference that makes. I think it's probably more about the jeopardy of stopping rather than the performance of different compounds because you could have a faster compound tire on and you wouldn't be able to do anything with it. it and get past someone. So that's probably why they've not opted to on that one. But that remains to be seen.

We could have a belter. Maybe. Is that a prediction? No. Separately to that news, Monaco has also announced that starting from this season, they will have their first title sponsor in Tag. Thoughts on that, Sam?

Great. No, you never have one for? No, we have. hasn't. I mean, it shows the increased commercial viability of Formula One, I suppose. Does Monaco-Neaghani title sponsor? I don't think they've like never had the opportunity to have one.

I think they've just always rejected it. Taguil of course being a French brand, there's pretty some affigone there with the fact that lots of very, very wealthy people turn up to do lots of very, very wealthy shopping things and very wealthy person things in Monaco. And I suppose in terms of brand of finity and what they stand for,

It makes a lot of sense. But Rolex weren't exactly too far out of the way when it came to brand sponsorship, really. Tagger Rorex would pretty much sit on the same playing field in terms of how much they bloody cost. Both watches, aren't they? AKA I can never afford them. So, yes, thanks, Mongakow from rubber that in my face a little bit more.

Now, I think Tagger is also probably looking to expand its presence immediately within Formula One. Of course, this is the first time we've removed away from Rorexing a very long time as terms of the official timekeeper of the sport. And it was quite weird to see Tagger as the branding across all of the time tables, the time-time testing, the sponsorship that comes up at the bottom of a lot of thirds. So I do wonder if they're trying to go a little bit all out in their first year to put themselves everywhere and just be a key part of Formula One's branding for the year.

Harry, Futs. I'm pleased for them. Great. Great. It's GWR. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's Monaco has for such a long time retained a status above all other F1 circuits in that TV direction was always done by Monaco and it was terrible. That changed either first time last year or a couple of years ago. I think last year was the first time.

So Monaco finally relinquishing that one. This now all all circuits these days have. They are the Qatar Airways, Santander, Foster's British Grand Prix. They all have title sponsors. And it's probably only a matter of time before Monaco also went that way too. So I don't think it's a shock. I just think it's a sign of the times where in the Monaco no longer retains that privilege that once had as a venue.

So I think, yeah. Something that's quite nuanced, I suppose, is that, is that, Usually royal settings don't tend to have a brand partnership due to the obvious partnership of finity with a royal family and a brand, right? So you look at Mogoco being the Principality, of course, and it has the Prince of Monaco in it. Usually you wouldn't have a brand directly associated with kind of the royal family of the monarchy of a certain place. Not to use personal life, but the same goes with Royal Ascot. There's no branding across that entire week because it's directly associated to the British royal family. family for a reason. So I wonder if that had anything to play into it.

Prince Alba's going to cover than watches. He is the watch. He opens his cover up. He's got so many watches. I am the fat controller. Big up, Albert. I think it's understandable. Like, tags association with F1 goes back a long way.

And as you rightly say, Sam recently returned. It's high end enough that it doesn't feel. too tacky, like it could you imagine the crypto.com monococto three. Like it just doesn't, it doesn't sound right. I still think even with tag, it does lose just a little bit of prestige having a sponsor. Like it being unsullied by sponsorship did feel, did add to the heritage, did add to the prestige a little bit, I think. So it's not something that is, it's, it's,

not catastrophic, don't get me wrong, but Monaco as a circuit does rely ultimately on its heritage because as we've identified the on-track racing, it's not there for that. Let's put it that way. So, yeah, I think it takes away a little bit. For me, if I had to pick a brand for it to be sponsored by, I probably would have actually gone down the Moet route. Obviously, they've come back under LVMH and they will be the official champagne again that sits on the podium. Finally say spray the champagne, not to spray the sparkling wine. No more Ferrari sparkling wine who, I mean, brilliant marketing ploy to get yourself on the podium every single race. But we are back to Moet.

And for me, that would make sense as kind of a very long-lasting French compatriot, singular in terms of it. It's only the one place that can be called champagne as well. That would have been, I think, better, but no major issues with Taggart. That's the next question of the week. Who should have sponsored the Monaco Grand Prix? It's going to be spaghetti dinner, lady. Oh, my children. All of his children sponsor a corner.

Yeah, you go out for each corner. The names of the corners on the games of his children. Oh, man. Let's take a second break. On the other side, we've got a quote from Lewis Hamilton. Thank everyone. Harry, did you catch F-175? Sadly.

Yeah. Yeah. Still feeling glum. Did you catch, take that at the end? I did, yeah, I did. It was interesting when it shine. Well, when Gary Barlow was on the mic for take that,

he said the stars are coming out tonight. This is such an old Ben joke. Harry, why were the stars coming out tonight? That phrasing. I had no idea where that was going. Well, Ben. I do know, actually. I take it all back.

I did know where that was going, because Gary Bolo wrote that song for Take That, because he's a massive fan of the podcast. He is. Jason Orange loves us. That's why he left. He couldn't associate with Orange anymore. No, yeah.

Yeah, Gary Bolle wrote the song about the stars coming out tonight because he loves to give him. five-star reviews to this podcast and no other podcast actually he doesn't listen to anything else in fact all to take that are massive fans if you're listening all their songs are related to the show big up Howard

oh god Mark Wright is absolutely rolling Mark right right he's not related to say that to life anyway the stars if you have enjoyed what you've listened to which based on that last 30 seconds

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This is where we start now. The seamless move from Take That to Lewis Hamilton. He was talking about his move to Ferrari in in Time magazine the other day of all places. Mainstream popularity, Lewis Hamilton, as usual. He said, I needed to throw myself into something uncomfortable again, talking about the move from Mercedes to Ferrari. He also recalled getting off the phone with Ferrari

and almost shaking at the prospect of racing for them. Sam, what are your thoughts on him? Terrified. Yeah, he did. He's not excited. He's just scared. Crying over the phone. What are your thoughts on him admitting that he wanted? a bit of a new challenge at this point in his career.

Totally acceptable. Totally fair to sit there and think I've done the same thing for a long time. It's not going the way he expects it to anymore. I think Lewis Hamilton is very emotionally motivated as a person. I think unless he is really emotionally passionate in investing something, I don't think he gets enjoyment out of it. He's not the kind of guy that, you know, gets up and does it just because he's got to get up and do it.

He's got that dog in him and Roscoe's barking in the background, I'm sure. And he needs something I get up and bark at. You know, Roscoe has the postman, Lewis Hamilton is driving for Ferrari and they deliver on time. Nice. Thank you.

He is someone who we've known throughout his career to be incredibly open, both negative and positives about himself, about the team, about the direction his career is going. Halfway through the season last year, he came out and said, I don't know if I'm going to do the rest of it

because he was so demoralized by what was going on with everything, that he needed this turnaround. Now, I do believe that the winter break, I do believe that testing as a whole, has really been a key motivator for him. And it feels like he really is in positive spirits and back in place. Now, if the car does gel with him,

and he continues that positive feeling throughout the season, the group better be watching out, because Lewis Hamilton, when he's fully motivating a car that clicks with him, could be a boost. You know, the man can tear you apart. So I think it's right to come out and say this. I think him almost giving him a public goal to go aim towards. It's a good motivating factor.

I'm glad he's come out swinging and not giving this time interview with a little bit of, oh, well, yeah, you know, I wasn't really loving it. Maybe I thought I'd give it another go. You know, that to me is too placid. I'm glad he's going out there swinging. There's some other interesting comments from that time interview that we'll get to in a moment as well. I feel like this confirmed to me that Ferrari ticked the two boxes is that Lewis Hamilton needed ticking.

Like he, the first part of the quote where he talks about a new challenge, something like that's the competitor in Lewis Hamilton wanting something new. And then the second part where he admits that he's like, he's shaking as he's getting off the phone. That's like the living out a childhood dream part of it.

I think that those are the two things that Lewis Hamilton wanted fulfilled. And Ferrari were the only team that we're able to provide both. And I feel like they maybe have for a little while, but Mercedes, and I've made this point before, Mercedes just haven't ever given him a reason to leave because he has been so successful with Mercedes and he built something quite incredible there,

winning six titles and countless constructors championships, breaking records. It wasn't until they had a couple of years where Lewis Hamilton was really unable to fight for championships that Ferrari were able to sneak in and make their pitch. But yeah, I feel like this just confirmed what we, what we suspected was the reason behind the move in the first place. How are your thoughts on this?

Yeah, I agree. I think for anyone thinking this was, there's no doubt that Hamilton's getting some big bucks out of this, but anyone thinks it's financially motivated. Alex Albin thinks he's getting some big bucks on this. Yeah, but I feel bad for Albon because I'm like, that is just one clip for a trailer and people are going to rinse him for it. I watched that and I was like,

oh, they've done him dirty there. But anyway, that was Drive to Survive reference for anyone not not getting that one but yeah look I think this this was always the case for Hamilton he he could have stayed at Mercedes and uh and seen out his career picked up some wins along the way and no one would have I don't think anyone would have criticise him but that isn't Lewis Hamilton is he's not there to just to just uh exist in effort and he wants to he wants to be winning and uh I think it has to be a new challenge for him because like I think it just becomes stale for him and

Mercedes. Obviously obviously they weren't a competitive which that was not helping things but he'd been there since 2013. It's a long old time 12 years he'd been there and it was it was time for time for something new because I think like you write as Sam about I think there was a risk if he hadn't made the move Hamilton could have retired very soon and I think we've extended Lewis Hamilton's timing F1 with this move so we

I don't know why I said we then we are in integral parts we were that we were negotiating the contract that's and take that

that's why he was shaking so yeah there's the competitiveness you're right I think that's a big factor and like said

it's fulfilling it's like Vettel said we've said this before everyone loves Ferrari and even if they don't admit that they do and I think that's the same for Lewis Hamilton

and he'll have watched, you know, it's whatever, they're one of the one consistency in F1 is Ferrari. So, this being a child of dream makes a lot of sense and that you can understand the reaction he had. So it's emotionally and capacitively motivated.

I think that that's, if it was ever in doubt, it shouldn't be any more based on those comments. To pick out a few other quotes from this article, because there are a number of punch she thinks he said in here. He said, don't ever compare me to anybody else. I'm the first and only black driver

that's ever been in this sport. I'm built different. I'm hungry, driven, don't have a wife and kids. I'm focused on one thing and that's winning. He said, the old man is a state of mind. And he said, what I can tell you is, retirement is nowhere on my radar. I could be here until I'm 50.

Sam, your thoughts on Fernando Alonzo's comment that he'll be here until he's 60. So those two Would I get everyone else We go on the grid Right now Would have retired Those two will still be there

texting each other Now you're staying other year I've just had two years Egging each other They are kind of similar in that About the wife and kids as well Because Pretty much the only two

That having either had like a long term Girlfriend, Partner, wife or whatever Just in it for the sport Just for the love of the Love of the Kill Love her Just love in tyres

It's like Pirelli Together Interesting comments though Really interesting comments, very punchy. I love that he's used the phrase, I'm built different, by the way. Exquisite wording, Lewis Hamilton. He is different. He is built different. He has achieved things that no one else has ever achieved in our sport. You look at the statistics of, you know, over the years of Formula One, we've had X amount of races. Lewis Hamilton has won

a third of them. You know, that is pretty extortionately mad. That is just a crazy stat. Just like Fernando Alonso is being here for one third of all in Formula One. one, Lewis Hamilton has been on the podium for some ridiculous number as well. Those two together are still at the very tip, the very top of the spear of Formula One and the talent that it exudes. Lewis Hamilton's right to sit there and be a little bit arrogant about his claims. You know, I am built different. Don't compare me to others.

It's not like he's on the same. And I mean this in no disrespectful way to anyone else. He's not on the same level as science. George Russell, Landon Norris, Max for Staffing even right now, right? He has got a claim to sit there and go. No one has done what I've managed for doing Formula One, and I've got every right to sit there and say

that I'm at the very top of things. Let's hope that all of this motivational speak is going to actually spur him on to have a very successful year, and whether that might be a title or not, very much depends on Ferrari as well. But he's going to be right up there with his teammate and beating those around him to make sure that this fighting talk doesn't just fall flat,

and it is actually delivering upon in the following year. Harry, your thoughts on these comments? Yeah, again, it's like you said something, it's fighting talk from Hamilton, but if anyone's able to make those comments, it's him. So like I say, hopefully he's going to back it up as well,

and there's multiple factors be around that as the weather that will happen this year. But it does, again, it speaks to this, he feels re-invigorated somewhat by this move. I couldn't see those comments coming from Hamilton even a year ago, to be honest.

And I think that, points to why this was a good move for him just from a personal level because like I said, I think he could have easily cruised along still at Mercedes, but I'm not sure he would have felt quite as motivated as he does right now at Ferrari. So yeah, he's got he's quite right to be able to say these things. Yeah, I don't disagree at all that he is built different. Like he's won and won a lot whilst fighting battles that, no other driver has had to face. And it's incredibly commendable.

And I don't like to compare too much when it comes to like off-track influence because there are drivers that have done a lot in different categories. But like Hamilton and what he's done for diversity, like is right up there amongst the biggest influences of all time off-track. I would put like what he's done with diversity and like what Jackie Stewart has done with safety. Like those are for me like the top echelon of what drivers have done outside of the car. What are he saying about age as well and whether he could drive until he's 50 and whether

the motivation is still there, retirement, not being on his mind at all. He cites some other sporting greats in this article. He talks about LeBron James, who is a very similar age to Lewis Hamilton and is still performing at a ridiculous level like no basketball player has done at the age of 40. He talks about Tom Brady and how he was still at the top of his game going into

his mid-40s. And I think if there's one thing that F-1 historically has taught us is identifying a prime for a driver is very difficult. We have had drivers like Sebastian Vettel, for example, who won four championships by the time he was 26.

Compare that to Alam Prostner and Senna, neither of them won a title before they turned 30. There isn't a hard and fast rule of this is when you will win your championships. This is when you will be at your best. Who's to say that Lewis Hamilton won't be the first driver to really have, or the first driver in a long time, to have considerable success well into their 40s? Sure. Why not?

If he believes in himself, he continues to be motivated. I don't see why he would lack. the self-belief just based on everything he's achieved in his career thus far. The comment about wife and kids is an interesting one. And I'm not sure where I land on it because you have had greats of the sport, have that family life and still achieve great success, like Michael Schumacher, for example. But there is also an element of, you know, Michael Schumacher growing up as a father.

Mick Schumacher spoken about this before. How much time Michael Schumacher had to be away from Mick and the family in order to, I don't know, be as honed in as he was in the sport. So that's the interesting part of the statement, I think, that I'm not 100% sure where I stand on it. But yes, as you say, Samsung, punchy interesting comments. Yeah, the wife and Kigs pop was an interesting and almost pretty only part of the quote that felt unneeded. I'm not sure what point he was trying to make there other than he hasn't got anything. distractions. I'm like, yeah, okay, sure.

But like you said, there's been many a great across many of a sport that do have family, partner, children, you know, and are still very successful. So, yeah, probably the only bit that I would say you probably don't need to mention it. But hey, if it gets him going and we go out to see a great cycle fight, you can slag off whoever wants to slag off and I'll be here for it. And with that, let's take on final break on this episode. On the other side, we're playing F-1 back and forth. Come back, everyone.

It's time for back and forth. F1. Back and forth, it's F1. Back and forth, it goes backwards. Then goes forth, it's F1. Back and forth, F1. On the beat as ever. We will take no comments on this.

F1, back and forth. Harry and Sam will go up against each other in a particular category, they'll keep answering until they can't think of a right answer or give an incorrect answer. And today I'm going to give you both two strikes. Oh, no.

No, no, no, no. I've given you three strikes before. It's not the most difficult one. I want you to name the 22 drivers that have achieved at least 25 podiums in F1, but I want you to exclude world champions, drivers champions. Well, that's it. I'm not having off.

I'm having enough. Oh, God. Okay. 22 drivers who have had at least 25 podiums in the sport, excluding F1 drivers' world champions. Harry, kick us off. Rubens Barakello. Rubens Barakello is not only a right answer.

He is at the top of this list, 68 podiums in his career. Sam. I'm going to go. go with Valtry Bottas. Valtry Bottas is not number one on this list because he is number two on this list behind Rupert's Barakello. Only one behind though at 67.

Harry, back to you. Daniel Ricardo. Daniel Ricardo is a correct answer, 32 podiums in his career. Sam. David Coulthard. David Coulthard is third on the list, 62 podiums in his career. Harry. God

make some noises it regularly helps me think yeah yeah yeah get a hard burger we're going down

the list very nicely here he's fourth on the list 48 podiums and you see what Saman I's thinking is so far

teammates of dominant drivers wait until you I've got next who you got next Sam Mark Weber Mark Weber is a correct

answer 42 podiums Harry Ricardo Petrazi Ricardo Petrazi is a correct answer 37 Charles Leclair Charles LeCler is a correct answer

43 podiums and not that many wins as he should have Back to you Harry Oh no Montoya Mr Chunky answer 30 podiums.

I don't know why I said Ms. Chunky Asher said that before. That was just unnecessary afterwards, to be honest. Sorry. Sorry for one, Pablo. Sam. Felipe Massa. Felipe Massa is a correct answer. 41 podiums to his name.

Harry. Oh, my God. Jean Alacey. Jean Aletzi is a correct dancer. are 32 podiums for him what's the what's the number of podiums I supposed to have 25 25 I yeah yeah okay

there's a lot of drivers between like 25 and 30 by the way so it's going to get interesting but Carlos Sines Carlos Sines is one of those drivers between 25 and 30 27 podiums for Carlos Sites Harry

oh Lord this might be a strike Did Irvine get that many? No. Yes, he did. Just about 26 podiums for Eddie Irvine. Eddie? So that's like your barometer.

Are they better or worse than Eddie Irvine? That's a difficult barometer. Yeah, but because, to be honest, 26 is probably too many, isn't there? Let's be real. Yeah, he actually got 25 of them in 1999. That 40 season race. Fould your own season.

Sound back to you. on the same vibe as teammates I'm going to go sibling Ralph Schumacher 27 podiums in the correct answer Harry back to you we have eight more

correct answers on this list um Perez Sergio Perez is a correct answer 39 podiums So I'm back to you Surely Lando's in there now You say surely

You are right But it ain't a sure thing boy 26 podium Yeah I was real skeptical On that 26 Yeah Because they've only really really come In like the last year or so

Well yeah Yes Harry back to you Um Jil Vilnov Jil Vilnav is not a correct answer. Which, well.

Good, nice on time as well. Thank you. Sterling Moss? Make me move again. Oh, God, damn it. Lando Norris was one to the good. Sterling Moss is one to the bad, I'm afraid. 24 podiums.

That is the only driver as well on 24. so the nearest of near misses. One strike each. And we've got left, Ben. One, two, three, four, five, six answers remain. Are there any of them this century? Nope. Right.

It's names that I know. We can do this, Brang. Come on, Brayne. Oh, cricky. I don't know. I'll extend it out further to say, if you're even thinking 1990s you're going to be wrong. Not, is it?

I think it's going to be 80 about it. This has got my knowledge. Come on, brain. Think long and hard. Is it your go? It's my go. Oh, okay. I don't know if I've got any left.

I've got nothing left. Ian Beale is not a correct answer. You can get one more wrong way before you now. Yeah, I know, I know. But like, I don't know. And he's just going to be like wrong, wrong again. again. I don't know. Brundle. Martin Brundle.

I know that's not right, but... Martin Brundle is not a correct answer. Sam, back to you. You have to start picking names of drivers that I like and hope that they were quite good. So let's go with the best one. Jackie Hicks. Jackie Ix achieved exactly 25...

The tactics works! Exactly 25 podium. Back to you, Harry. I don't know. Stefan Beloff. Stefan Beloff is not a correct answer. Just loves the 1985 Tyrell lineup. Why wouldn't you?

Yeah. No, so Sam, you take the win on this one. There were five other names out there. As mentioned, they are, you're going to have to go back until at least the 1980s for some of these. I had two names left. Jacques Lafitte. No, but Jacques Lafitte is a correct answer.

32 podiums for him. Nice, good. Again, just picking drivers I like the name of. The other one was Carlos Reuteman. Carlos Reuteman is also a correct dancer. He was actually fifth on the list, 45 podiums to his name. The other three names on this list,

Clay Regazzoni with 28, Bruce McLaren with 27, and Ronnie Peterson with 26. I feel like I should have got Regizoni. Probably should have got Bruce McLaren, shouldn't we? To be honest. Well, you could get that one, but I should have. That said we. Yeah, well, the Royal Wing.

Back again. We're not getting into the Royal Week discussion again. Which means, Sam, you take the win on this Sunday's back and forth. Delightful. I love that. And that'll do it. this episode. As mentioned earlier on, Sam, we are back with Championship predictions mid-week.

I like the French twang on there, Ben. Championship. Championship. It's where we've gone for the predictions. Yeah, folks, it is predictions time. As we settle into the start of the 2025 season, you will hear our predictions for both drivers and constructors' championships coming up.

Of course, there is the opportunity to hear your point of view on this, saying Discord has got a little poll, I think, Ben, that they could get involved with? Or will they have? I've absolutely thrown him there. You've done him. I'll definitely put a poll out there at least. You have to now, Ben, the Sam said it.

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