The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Are 24 races TOO many for the 2023 F1 calendar?

Episode Date: September 21, 2022

The LB Boys are finally back as a three! Sam, Ben and Harry dive into the recently released 2023 F1 calendar, debate who they think will finish P2 in the drivers championship this year, and play F1: Order Please! JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to tune in for new episodes every Wednesday and Grand Prix Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking. Plenty to discuss on today's episode. We're going to be looking at the 2023 calendar that was announced yet. yesterday as we record this. We're looking at Aston Martin.

We're going to be playing F1 Order Please later on in the show. We're going to be looking at who's going to finish P2 in the championship. But before all of that, Yee-ha! Hey-ha! Hey, okay, partners, it's good to be back from the American Road Trip. Yeah! I can't keep that out of the whole episode.

American Sam's back. Oh, man, I think you're going to do the whole episode. Oh, you want me going to talk that this for the whole episode? Yeah, ha. I think you get very annoyed. Didn't even go to Texas or anything. It was, uh, no. I went to California and Nevada and they can start like this.

This is just the American accent there. That was probably so, when I was in America, I had a few people try to do the English accent, and they go, hello, mate, I'm from landing. And you're like, no one speaks on that. Not a single person. That's how you speak, mate. They've got to hang up.

Hello. I forgot I talked like this. I'm like going to be Sam. I'm like, okay. Good. Yeah, anyway, sorry, sir, every American I'm just offended. You were lovely, by the way, all of you. Everyone else I met.

In-N-Out burger, quality beef burger, absolutely loved it. Many other nice things that you do there. Like big Dr. Peppers and the soda streams where you can choose all the flavors. That's fun. Don't get that in England. Loads of stuff. You've got to see. lines. I saw Alcatraz.

So I went to three. That's a transition at a half. Yeah, no, it was good. I went paddle boarding in the Pacific. I did loads of good things. I have had to commit to only eating salad now because I ate too much. And every meal was so large in terms of portion size.

I was like, yes, more food in my gob. Anyway, good to be back. I've become unwell on the flight back because of the Air Kong. and I've got a block nose. So I'm so sorry if I'm even more irritating than normal, but it's nice. You did a great job, boys, of holding the fort down.

Well done. Harry calling in from Monsil was a real special moment. And Ben, your special guest. What are appearance? The last time I'm mentioning her, because she's outshung us all. Discussing by here. The ban has been increased from 12 months to 24 months

because we had some positive feedback. So not happening. No. I can't be ousted. you know when you um you want someone to do your i don't know if you're poorly someone's doing your job at work you want them to do your job really badly so it makes you look good what what laura did was she came in for a segment was better than sam and i have ever been in 200 odd episodes and then just left uh so that's why the ban is 24 months so sorry laura you brought it up on yourself yeah

rules are rules we don't make the rules but the rules are rules. But we do make them, and they're rules, and you're banned. We're going to do a little printout photo of her and put her on the pub wall. Have you seen this woman? Do not let's run your podcast. Too good at topic conversations.

That is around about three minutes. Absolutely love that. Let's talk some Formula One, because we are back as a trio for the first time in a little while, which is obviously fantastic. First segment tonight, who's going to finish P1 in the championship?

Max Verstappen. Segment two, who's going to finish P2 in the championship? Because it's turning into a bit of a tasty fight. And it makes you think what the fight would be if it was for P1, but we'll gloss over that. Charle-Claire currently sits P2 in the championship

with 219 points as we record this. Sergio Perez, nine points back from Matt, then George Russell's 16 points back, Carlos Seines 32 points back, and Lewis Hamilton, 49 points back. So those five drivers all covered by, essentially, two race wins with six races left to go, including a sprint race. What do you think, Sam? Whose favourite for P2?

Well, we asked this, didn't we, on social media, and it got quite an array of answers. And you'd like to think that realistically, Sergio Perez should be favourite for P2. When Max Verstappen, his teammate, if you haven't noticed, has got so many points that you can actually compare him to fighting with Ferrari as a duo rather than just the individual drivers, then you think, well, that Red Bulls got to be quite good. So in theory, Sergei Perez should be second place. But he's not, and I think that's maybe letting himself down a little bit. He's not being on his A game. He's not the first few races of the season that he pulled out the bag, but we were thinking, this is spectacular. He's really caught on.

The car development has clearly gone in a way that he's comfortable with and he's picking up pogging's left right and centre. He's backing up Max. He's doing what Red Bull have always needed, being the reliable number two driver. And now he's kind of very much hit and miss. Some races he'll finish sixth or seventh behind both the Seagis, both Ferraris, maybe even a Maclaren or an Alpine. And then some races he'll be back up there again.

So I think Sergio Perez is probably still the favourite. The reason why I haven't given it to Charlerc is because, well, Ferrari. and I'd like to think that actually a dark horse who I think maybe is sneaking into this for me because I'm just so bloody annoyed at Ben for choosing this. Is George Russell the man does not stop finishing either in the top five on a podium? Like if he doesn't get driven into or driven into someone, he will finish in the top three to five positions of the race. And it's getting a little bit frustrating how consistently good he is. And when I saw after Monza, which I had to watch at 6 a.m.,

that was fun, much hardering Europe. It's only 16 points away from LeCler. I'm like one D&F for Ferrari and LeCleur sits on the podium. It's all to play for. So I'm going to say final answer, Jeremy Clarkson, for £100. George Russell is the person I think will pick up second place in the championship. Wow. You're going for Russell?

Yeah. Interesting. I mean, not trusting Ferrari. That's an interesting structure. cool, see how that plays out for you. Harry, is Charles LeClaire favourite for P2 because that's where he sits right now, or is it someone else? Is it Russell? Is it Perez?

It's an interesting one, isn't it? I am going to go for Chockels-Lockels. Just because I'm not sure I can considering where they were, I don't think I can believe, or what to believe that they couldn't get shall, God Charles

Leclair couldn't get him into bloody P2 in the championship. So I'm doing this on the basis that I'm not sure I can take it if he's not in P2. But, um, yeah, I, it's the bloody hope that kills you. Like Sam said, Russell is, is not far behind.

And given the pace of the red ball, you'd say Perens has got a fairly, fairly good shot at it as well. But, um, I'm going to, I'm going to go for Leclair. I at least believe in God Leclair. If not, I don't believe in Ferrari. Hopefully, whatever Ferrari throw at him,

Leclair can at least overcome to finish second. So I think they've got a good few races coming up for them. So we'll see, we'll see there. But I'm going to believe in Leclair. I don't believe in Ferrari, but I believe in Leclair. Probably a safer bet on that one. Even though Leclair has had a few dodgy moments this season, I think he's still outnumbered by Ferrari's dodgy moments that have affected him.

I think it probably is Charles Leclair as the favourite. He is there at the moment. And if you're not trusting Ferrari, you're a wise person or you have a few brain cells, which is probably enough to convince him of that. But even with everything that's happened so far in Charle-Clear's season, he's still second. Like, Ferrari have tried to sabotage their own season so many times this year to the point where you think surely they can't outdo themselves again and then somehow they always do,

yet still Charles LaClaire's second place. So unless, and it is possible, unless Ferrari continue to throw all sorts of nonsense that even goes beyond what they've already done this year, it should be all right. for LeClaire to finish P2. But I say should and not will for a reason. You're right. I think the next couple of circuits, again, should benefit Ferrari. I think Singapore and Suzuki, those are the next two up.

They should be Ferrari circuits. And it should give Charlecler some comfort and some encouragement. The fact that the last two races, they've been to Zanvort and Monza, two very different circuits. And LeClaire was good on. both. Like, you know, Zambor, he was second quickest, and Monza, he was really second quickest as well there. Might not be competing with Verstappen for the wins, but we've already said, you know, if we're fighting for second here, not first. So I think that's what Charler needs to do,

just claim, can he claim back-to-back seconds in the next two races? Because I think that's probably what will seal it or not seal it, one way or the other. In terms of Sergio Perez, it really has been a horrible run, right? These last six races since Silverstone. So that was the race in which Perez finished second and Vastappen was lower down in the points.

Max Vastappen has picked up 154 out of a possible 164 points in the last six races. Sergio Perez has tricked us. It's not over yet, Sam. There's even more to this because whereas

where is the Stappan? You don't want that to have one of those. Whereas Vastappen has picked up 154 from the last six, Perez has picked up 63. Oh, Stapman. Yeah. Sad man. It's crazy to think that actually, after Silverstone,

the gap between Vestappan and Perez was only 36 points. And that was only six races ago. It really wasn't that far ago. But now it's 125, which kind of shows, first of all, how good Vestappen's been. the last six races, but also how far back Perez has fallen. And suddenly, you're looking at last season where Vestappen beat Perez by 205 points, and it's currently 125 this season.

Could it end up a similar amount difference to last year? Maybe, which isn't a good look if it ends up that way. And lastly, just to say, with the whole point on George Russell, I don't think you're mad for saying that he'll finish P2. Firstly, I do think Mercedes, they weren't great at Monza, but I think that will probably be the worst race that they will have for the rest of this year. I don't think any of the last six would be worse than what Monza was. And I think particularly Suzuki, actually, I think they'll be very good at.

If we look at where they were in Hungary, and indeed, Zandvort, they were pretty good there as well. I think they should be all right at Suzuki. And ultimately, who do I trust more as a driver, Perez or Russell? Russell, who do I trust more as a team? Mercedes or Ferrari? Mercedes. So you could argue, Russell and Mercedes,

that combo has a one-up on both of his main competitors for it. So I don't think it's crazy to think that he will finish second. I would say that Charlotte Clare is the favourite, though. But who needs it most, Sam? Who needs it most? Me.

I need a lot of things. I don't think you're going to get it. You're out of time, I think. It's a lot of popularity contest. because surely I could just be subbing. Hang on a minute. Six races, 150 points.

Give me Latifie seat to end the season. I'll show out of it. There's a sprint race as well, 164 points, which... When am I finishing? You know, none of these people are beatable, I'm afraid. You can finish four away from Lewis Hamilton if you've got every point available to you

until the end of the year, and Hamilton doesn't get anything, but you wouldn't be able to get ahead of that, I'm afraid. very realistic. Landon Norris is going to be washed when I smash him in the last six races. Anyway, you need it.

Double his points, yeah. Who needs it? What's crazy? It's Vastappan, on his own, he's bloody third in the Constructors

championship, which is hilarious. Imagine Mercedes being like, yeah, where the eight times the instructions are a world champions in a row. Oh, Mustafa is about to overtake us

as a single driver. That's not good. Who needs it? You know what? There's only one driver that I think actually needs it in that race, and that is Sergio Perez. Sherlock Clerk,

can fall back on Ferrari's misdemeanors and ridiculous decisions, right? You know, he's still putting up a great fight and he's had so many difficulties. Every driver's allowed to cut him in a skates a season. Yes, he's used those up, I think, but you're allowed to. Plus, he's slightly inexperienced when it comes to a title fight. So I don't mind him claiming experience and claiming that the team have shafted him a little bit and going, you know, you can get away with it. I think he's all right if he doesn't finish second.

He'll finish his third. I think fair. Carlos Sykes again, you've not had the strongest, seasons. Charlotte Cloor is Jeffrey out driven him. But again, I don't think anyone is looking at it going in his second place, otherwise that's career over. If Charlotte Claire is struggling and Carla Seitz is struggling, they're both struggling.

It's probably a Ferrari thing. Hamilton doesn't need it. Those people that are saying that Hamilton is down and dusted just because he's... Absolutely washed. Washed, yeah. What was the bloke even doing for his old career? Pointless. You know, the man is out of some unlucky races.

He's done some great fight back through the field. He's off his peak, folks. He is at the end of his career. there's no doubting it. The fact he's still, you know, punching it with cars that are better than him, with a teammate that's coming up to their peak. I think he's doing a solid job. And George Russell definitely doesn't need it, right? He's already showing us how good he can be for a season now and a top car. I'm surprised that he hasn't got one better and was picked up a win because he feels like he's on that momentum train. Maybe Japan is the place he does that. Who knows?

Sergeant Perez is the only person that I think will let themselves down if they do not finish next to their teammate in the standings. And if you're looking at points tally in total and not positions, he's already let himself down. I never expect a teammate to be over 100 points behind their teammate in any scenario. That is ridiculous. If you've got a regular race swinging car, a car that could be on pole position or the front row at every circuit, I expect you to be within no more than 40 or 50 points. And that is at a push.

That is at a real push. I think he's let himself down the last half of the season. I think he needs to have a stellar last six Grand Prix. Otherwise, next season looks very shaky for Sergei Perez. he's on the back of end of his career. He's only got a couple of years left. How long do Red Bull keep signing him if the competition creeps up towards them again

and the grid gets tighter? So I think Sergio needs to put it out of the back of the last six. He's definitely the one that needs it. But that's why I don't think he's the favourite. I think he's just been letting himself down race after race at the moment. This has got very little

in terms of what you've just said, Sam. But I want to pick up on one thing very specifically. Massive tangent this. And I'm speaking to journalists at large here because you should know better journalists within the F1 world. Sam gets this right in terms of when you've got more than one Grand Prix. What do you call it? If it's two Grand Prix, it is called two Grand Prix.

The Gras is the plural part, not the pre. I hate it. I hate it when journalists, specifically journalists or broadcasters will say two grand prix. What are you playing at? Oh, it's a French word. God be a gangrene. Come on. Let them have it. Let them have it. Literist bang.

I don't mind if anyone else makes the error because that, you know, they're not in the job. But if you're on TV talking about Formula One or something of the like and you're making that error, sort it out. It's like a little chihuahua seeing another dog and he's gone for him there.

I'll unleash it. When that point started, that's not where I thought it was going. Like, I'm not in the slightest. well done Ben no it's quite right

do you think Perez needs it the most Harry yeah probably um I'm

sure I'll go now I agree I agree with all the sound points I think slight defence for Perez

I'm not blaming the team here but I just think Verstappan's been a bit ridiculous in the

second half this year and the points kept to him of Vestappen, I guess you can account a little bit to no one's been taking any points off Vastappen, so that's going to enlarge it. But I agree with Sam, I think he still had a pretty shoddy second half of the year so far.

And given where that car is, they should be won to in the championship. We said the same for when Bottas and Hamilton were the dominant cars back in the, I'm saying back of the day then a few years ago. How old do you think we are? Back in the day all those years ago. Yeah, the only other one I would say, and it's for myself, the reasons, for the same reasons I made earlier,

shall declare, because because of where they were, I'm not saying he needs it personally for himself. I'm just saying, if he's not winning the championship, which if you get at maths, he's not winning the championship, he should be second.

And this is not, that's not a slight, on Charles Leclair. I'm just saying where they were at the start of the season, if they're not going to win, they should at least be second with him. But yeah, probably Perez the most. Asterix, just on that,

possible spoilers there for anyone who was wondering about the championship standings, anyone who has only watched the Bahrain Grand Prix. So far as you. Sorry, guys. Thanks for listening, though. Sorry. Yeah, it's Perez.

He needs it the most. Quite honestly, when it comes to Charles LeClaire, I don't care, and I don't think Ferrari should care or LeClaire should care whether he finishes second, third, sixth. It doesn't change the fact that they have absolutely ruined it for themselves in terms of having a chance to fight for a championship, not win a championship, fight for a championship. Doesn't matter where he finishes.

I think Perez needs it for his own personal sake, though. You mentioned Bottas and Hamilton, and with good reason. And ultimately, if you look at Bottas' time at Mercedes, he did finish runner-up to Hamilton twice. And if Perez doesn't do it this year, then obviously he's done it zero out of two times. So it's not a great look if he finishes worse than second. It's arguably even worse than if you finish it's a fourth,

because then you're starting to get into Mark Weber territory where Weber, of course, backed up Vettel for a number of years at Red Bull. In Vettel's four championship winning years, Weber was third three times but never runner up. So even if Perez finishes third, you could argue he's starting to get on that second driver level as Weber was. But if he finishes outside the podium positions, if he finishes fourth two years in a row,

not a great look. So he just needs to recapture what he had in the beginning of the year. Simple as that. Just do it, Sergio. It's really easy driving an F1 car. Get good. Yeah. Cheers Nike

Just do it Oh yeah that's your tax rate, ain't it Get good Get good Yeah Nike get good Swoosh So I'm going to use this break

To make sure that we don't get sued by an absolutely massive company from America And when we're back We're going to be talking about the 20203 calendar Get good lawyers So we're recording One day after the 23 calendar was released. So just a few highlights from it. There will be a record-breaking 24

races if it goes ahead as scheduled, starting in Bahrain on the 5th of March and then ending in Abu Dhabi on the 26th of November. That will be a back-to-back race weekend with Las Vegas, which will be the weekend beforehand. A few races. So Monaco is back on the calendar again. It's secured a multi-year deal that was very much under threat. China is back on the calendar for the first time since the pandemic. Qatar, Qatar is back after a one-year absence. And the French GP has disappeared. That's not on the calendar. One triple header, I believe, which spans Imola, Monaco and Spain. So Sam, did the FIA get this right? If you can't have a triple header, really those three Grand Prix.

Imola is an incredible circuit, right? But it does have all the ingredients to be a bore fest if the right parts fall into place. Morocco, I don't hear you say anything else. And Spain, I mean, yeah, it was better this race. But if we're looking at percentages, I would say at least 90% of the Spanish Grand Prix that we've hang over the last 20 years.

Best turn one. Best turn one in the world. Oh, I'm going to leave the podcast. I've already been back for 20 minutes. Come on. You could have had some immense triple hangers there, and you've decided to pick those three, which is, I think, quite unfair to F1 fans. Have they done things right? Have they done things wrong? Firstly, pumped that China is back. Shanghai is a massively underrated track, I think. Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting.

Oh, that's such an old school reference. Yeah, it's immense. That's the big scale term, for everyone that doesn't understand it, that the sponsorship on the Grandstag says Anting, Anting, Anting, Anting, but they come into view one at a time. So when you're playing the game or you watch it on telly, now you'll hear the three annoying English blokes going, Anting, Anting, Anting, as you go around the corner. Don't put me and Harry in this. This is on you. He said it first.

Performed by the Antingtings. Oh, that's got their game. That's got their game. Anyway, yeah, that's great. So glad to have that back. And you know what? I'm all right with Katabee in there as well. The issue is just how many races we've got. We don't need 24. The chances are it's going up to 25 next year because Kealami looks like it's almost setting stone to join.

So unless Keelami replaces spa, which is one of the rumors going around, which would be horrible if that is the case, it's just endless. I was having a conversation at my actual job today. How do you have a normal working relationship? How do you, how can you be in a healthy relationship with someone that isn't in basically the F1 Paddock of some variation? You never get to see your partner or your children or your family because one in every other week at the year, you're off around the world. And it sounds all glitz and glamour, but it isn't.

The other thing that I'm very, very frustrated with, which I, so much as so dig a tweet about, is we want to go, you know, Carbon Zero. I tweeted folks at SamuSage, Jeff Wong, if you want to see it. I'm an angry man. Small angry man. That spell was Sam, by the way, small angry man, if you're interested.

That's what it sounds for. I did a tweet about it. I did a revised calendar and it allows it to be more eco-friendly. It picks them up into continental areas where you can naturally go next. So we haven't got, for example, a North America Grand Prix and then Baku. Or we haven't got Canada and then a European Grand Prix because it doesn't make any sense to be jumping like their bloody hopscotch child. from one consequence to the other. You've got enough races in each place

that you can stay there for a period of time. And I've even done the work for you to look out the weather for each one. The coldest race you get is about 13, 14 degrees. Which yes, is chilly. They're the best in the world. Get on with it. Learn to get your tired heating up.

See you can make the most of it. Remember in Portugal where we had the really cold track because it was a new surface and Carlos Sikes, Lairding and McCarrang after the... That was immense. Love that race. So don't care if it's cold. Get on with it.

I really think they can have done more. I really think it's bad. Ben, you did a great reshare on Twitter about them literally announcing that they want to make it more eco-friendly and bring down the carbon in the race. And they're not sticking to it.

They've completely ignored it. And the other final most hilarious thing which just tells you how moronic Formula One can be sometimes. They've apparently scheduled the Spa Grand Prix on the same day as the 24 hours of spa, which is an endurance race run by a completely different type of motorsport.

I don't know. They're the same time. Same place simultaneously. Yeah. What's the wrong with that? On one o'clock, the F1 cars are just going to come onto the track and go and they'll just drive around the other cars. Yeah, sure. Makes total sense.

Like, did you not look at it? Did you not think about it at all? There's a lot that needs to change here. I'm a bit disappointed that they haven't made any obvious changes where things could fit together well. Like I said, we don't need to be jumping continents for one race and then coming back again. It's silly. No, not really pleased with it. The only things I am pleased with are Shanghai being back,

and I'm okay with Qatar being there, because I'm excited to see how it goes again. But again, contrary, they've got some issues, haven't they? So money prevails. It's a different Qatar circuit, isn't it? Oh, yeah, it is. I believe it is actually going to be the same circuit. Oh, is it doing a new one?

They were planning on doing a new one, but I think they've changed their minds and are going back to the same one again. To be wrong. I thought it was the track itself. If you eliminate all the cultural, humanitarian issues that are going on in that part of the world, it's quite a good track.

I enjoyed it. It was not a bad race. So we'll see. But yeah, 24, too many. I'd be happy with between 17 and 20 races, as we've said many times. I think this is a bit too much. Yes, just to cover that point off,

Firstly, from my side, 24 is too many. 20 is ideal. I don't think you need to go to 24. And I would make the case here for a rotational calendar where you have some venues that are here every two or three years. But I've made this point about 12 times on the podcast, so I'm not going to do it again. But one of these days, one of these days, someone within the FIA is going to listen to me. and I'm going to say, I've been telling you for years, and I'm going to stand on top of this soapbox forever. So I won't go into that today. I'm not going to go into that, but they should do it. A couple of positives, because there are probably more negatives than positives here. There are two extra races. There are two extra races this year compared to last year,

but it should be noted that there are three extra weeks in terms of the start point to end point. So it's not like they're adding two races into the same time span. They are at least starting, I think, two weeks earlier in the year this timeout and finishing a week later. So there is that. Obviously, it's still a bit of a, it's a squeeze, but they're not doing it into the exact same time window. And there is only one triple header.

They could have gone worse. They could have had multiple. So I'm okay with there only being one. Sam, you kind of made the point in terms of it's not exactly. the most frilling on paper triple header in the world, but there aren't more, there isn't more than one. Get some out of the way. There are some big problems with this calendar, though.

There are some big problems. And I will touch on a few of the ones that you've mentioned already, Sam. The one I think I have the biggest problem with is Baku, because this season, we were up in arms saying, it doesn't make any sense. Why are you putting Baku back to back with Canada? it's stupid. And the FIA have gone, you know what?

They're on to something here. It is stupid. Let's put it back to back with Miami instead. That's not better. That's the same problem. It's still North America to Asia, you morons. There is a whole other question about Azerbaijan at the moment and whether we should be racing there at all

based on their recent invasion of Armenia. I won't claim to be an expert on the matter. but as Sam's already mentioned in terms of, in terms of Qatar and other races on the calendar, if we want to pick out human rights issues, I think we're going to be looking at a third of the calendar at this, right? Which is possibly a horrible point. Exactly. Some other issues with this.

I mean, Canada is in between nine European races, as per usual, which just doesn't make any sense. Every year, though, isn't it? Yeah. And also, we've already discussed this one separately, but Las Vegas and Abu Dhabi being back to back. Don't quite work, does it? Anyway, I will say my actual overall biggest problem is not even the calendar itself. It's the lack of transparency, which I think is the nicer way of saying flat out lying, which is they committed earlier in the year to being more regionalized that you've already mentioned,

have they committed to this. That's what they wanted to do. If it's not doable or the contracts in place won't allow for it or if there's too many scheduling clashes, be upfront about it and say it's going to be, it's going to have to work over a number of years. It's not going to be right straight away. We'll try and make improvements this year, but more will come next year. Just be open and honest that it's not achievable 100% upfront. Because now they've kind of backed themselves into a corner where they've said one thing and they've not delivered on it whatsoever. And we're left with a calendar that really doesn't do anything different to previous years for getting to net zero. It feels like exactly the same as previous years. There's still like the Baku incident. It's still nonsensical

in that sense. So, look, if you can't get it done in a year, fine. Be open and honest about it. Don't give us a rubbish in May that you're looking to regionalize in 2023 and then deliver this. You could just say it is flat out lying or it's just wildly overestimating what you can achieve, one way or the other. What did you make of the calendar, Harry? Well, firstly, multi-year deal for Monaco, guys. Oh, get in the bin, mate. I was hoping you were going to bring it up. I'm feeling. He's put music on. Are you kidding me? I'm so angry at you right now. it's woo-hoo because you're going to get big up this podcast

it's a celebration thank you cool and the gang um friends of the podcast big friends of the podcast yes you monica haters

suck it anyway moving on for moving on from that yeah I won't go into the many of my points because you've you've all made them

or you both made them all for me so um yeah what someone worked out. I'll credit them. It was at EllieGP on Twitter. 133,000 kilometers

and that's the entire year. That's without going home, which they will do a lot, probably, when they don't have triple headers or back to back. So there's a lot of air miles going on there. Not ideal. Yeah, and we say, I'm happy China's back on the calendar. Good circuit there.

Abidabi. great. She's still on the calendar. But yeah, that it's just, it's like a bit of it's like, they've just sort of chucked them on. Like they've just got all of them in one hand

and just chucked them on a bit of paper and went out of, oh, do, if you get off you go. Got a calendar there. Oh yeah, they've got to pick up the Franks token. There's a piece of paper with France just somewhere out there in the ether. For France.

Sorry, I mean, no one's sad about that. But the fact that no one's even, talked about it is probably the telling point on that one. Yeah, it's not ideal. It's too many. I mean, we love talking about F1, but that's a lot of a lot of F1 racists talk about.

I think you agree, guys. There's a lot of us to listen to there. Yeah, what we complain about? They're thinking about the content, aren't they? They are? The thing is, if we have another year like this year, and I don't think we will, and I hope we don't. Vastappan were wrapped it up by Hungary

there's so many races it'll be Verstappen's the champion by Miami great he'll be done and dusted yeah just some of the the plonking of the US ones as you say but the Miami

the Canada look the actual USGP is fine but again Las Vegas to Abu Dhabi like they're going to say guys and it's not it's not going to be fair on the people that work in F1. I don't know. That's how we, you know, we love F1. We'd love to be in the world of F1.

But it's not fair on those people. And it's going to get to a point where people are going to get burnt out if they haven't done already this year. So that's a worry in itself as well. So I don't think they're going to change this calendar, but I think they do need to. As someone who just did the flight from San Francisco to London yesterday, I am literally exhausted. The jet lag is real. I've fallen asleep twice today. Thank God I'm working from home. I don't know how these people who need to drive, you know, huge trucks saying I score very sensitive equipment and be very, have a lot of precision in their job role are okay with them having almost such little sleep or such wacky time zone sleeping schedules. And the drivers included.

We spoke about it before, you know, lack of sleep deprivation is the, the, the same as drinking as having, you know, multiple drinks of alcohol variations, folks, like just like a Coca-Cola, and then driving the car. And if drinking and driving is not acceptable, why is sleep deprivation? Okay, it's, there's no logic behind it and it feels like money is still very comfortably dictating the journey that we go on with Formula One. I've just noticed July's bloody busy. It's four of the buggers. Sure birthday as well. I've got to remember that.

Yeah. All right, it's not. There's no race on my birthday, but yeah. There's a lot going on in July. Busy old July next year, folks. Don't do anything. And it's hot. And it's hot.

Here's a break. I fell on this point, started with Harry saying there's four races in July, and it's ended with, there are four races in July, but it's also hot, and it's Harry's birthday. Welcome to the podcast, beg.

Real relevant information there, folks. What else happens in July? Do you want to bank holiday? No, no bank holiday in July. What else happens in July? Spend your birthdays right after it, so we've got to prepare for that. Sure. The whole month of preparation, did it?

Hey, you don't realize how much work I put into your birthdays. What? Prang starting already. Oh, dear. Nothing else happens in July. I think we've established there. Good stuff. Makes sense.

We're going to be talking Aston Martin after this break. So it's hardly been a perfect season for Aston Martin. They're currently sat second to last in the championship, but there have been a few signs of life in the last few races

that might indicate that they can get in amongst the midfield proper for the rest of this year. Of course, six races still to go. Harry, based on what you've seen at a couple of the last Grand Prix, do you think that there is potential for Aston Martin to get in the mix

with maybe the likes of McLaren and Alpine, at least at those races specifically, rather than the championship as a whole? Yeah, they've had, it feels like they've spent a long time trying to get a hold of, to understand that car. And I think it's clear it's not good at places like Monza. It was very, I mean, all the Mercedes cars sort of struggled there. but the the the the the the the the the austin i say all of them the williams is a rocket ship but anyway

the astin was clearly really clearly struggling even for straight line speed so it's quite a draggy car but um other places like spa for example they're there's some great form so yeah i think they they spent a long time just trying to understand it and i think if they can if they can turn up to these weekends and and and hook it up i think there is a semi-decent car under there I just think in a similar way that Mercedes have struggled. They've just not quite managed to hook it up at every race weekend. So yeah, interested to see. Could they get in the mix of the McLean and the Alpines?

Potentially. Honestly, it's almost like luck of the draw as to whether they're going to turn up and the car is going to work for them at that particular circuit on that particular day. I just don't think it's a car that's going to work everywhere. So it's going to be an interesting, interesting one to watch. And I'd love them to be involved because it's a tasty battled as it is at the moment between Alpine and McLaren. And Chuck Asty Martin in there for good measure. I think it'd be good to see.

I'll go with, yeah, sure, as my answer to your question, Ben. But I'm... We've got, like, one toe on the fence, though. Yeah, my pinkies on the fence. I'm just not cool. a little bit uncertain because I just think they just don't quite have the understanding of the car that's underneath them yet. So yes, sure, 99% 1% on the fence. Oh, it's always on the fence somewhere.

You're welcome, guys. Never 100%. Never 100%. Sam, do you agree with Harry? Do you think that they can get in the mix with those couple of midfield teams in these last races? Uh, no, I'm not going to be other things. I don't. Um, I think the points that Harry raised are what have convinced me that they can't. They have this new funky armchair rear wing, as it's been dubbed. And if anyone would like to Photoshop me sitting on the armchair rear wing as a tiny

version of myself, I would love that. Send it over to a saddle breaking on Twitter. Um, and that seems to work brilliantly for downforce heavy tracks, you know, um, then you mentioned spa, that middle sector, they suddenly found a lot of pace, and that is obviously downfall's heavy. And I imagine that tracks such as Singapore that's coming up, they might prevail. The issue for them is that Sebastian Vetter can't seem to find any consistent form. You know, he's still keen. He still wants success. You can hear it in his radio message is when something doesn't go right.

The issue is it doesn't go right in nine out of ten Grand Prix. You know, I was said, we missed out on Q2 again by two thousands of a second. You hear him get frustrated, but frustration only gets you so far. He's not putting that car regularly to Q2. A Lank Stroll is suddenly turned around with some impressive qualifying performances, which goes against what Lankstrol is good at. He's meant to be at the back, and they have really good start, so I'll overtake 10 cars on the first lap.

The issue is he isn't doing that now. It's qualifying better than Sebastian Vettel, and then he just hangs up back there with Sebastian Vettel for a bit. That's the problem. They're too inconsistent. The drivers are both too inconsistent. The pairing isn't strong enough. Larkstrol is Lankton.

stroll. He'll never be the creme yellow creme of F1, unfortunately, for him, or for that seat. Seby Vets leaving soon. So if you compare that, oh, sorry to break the news to you. But yeah, enough. Did you, sorry, this is completely interrupting your point in front for a tangent. Did you see very briefly for like a day there was this rumor that because Albin having this test with a few, a couple of drivers. One of them was going to be Sebastian Vessel. A couple. I love that. I love that. I was sorry. I'm going to The key for the Alpine seat

is longer than the queue for a Majesty's funeral. Like, it's round the bloody block. They got it confused. That is the queue for the Alpine test. Oh, yeah. Got to save the Alpine. It's actually... Otmar was just in the,

in Westminster Hall, just checking off names. Yep, all right, we'll see you later. Next one. Susan, sorry, not farcing off. Greg, not farcing off. Do you have a seat? No, not fast enough. Yeah.

Saldra get her on the short list. A size large. Yeah, back to my point, please. Sorry, son. When A. Martin, who are, aka. inconsistent, go up against the consistency of O'Conn, Norris, and Alonkso, who is going to be driving for them next season,

which would be very interesting. I just don't think they've got it in them to be competing race by race, let alone in the Constructs of standings. I do think the tracks suit their car more than they don't suit their car for the rest of the season. You know, you look at Singapore, you look at Japan, Brazil. I do think that they could, with maybe a couple of lucky things going their way, you know, D&F's reliability issues, they could leapfrog, hars, and alpha-towery. That's where I think they can end up being.

But I don't think they're going to get anywhere near half of McLaren or the whole of Alpine. I'm sorry, they just haven't going on. Yeah, I think I can see them. clear of everyone else in terms of the two alpha teams and Hasse and Williams. I can see that happening, but McLaren and Alpine, it might be one step too far just based on probably not so much the car, but actually the lineup as well. It's just even with Ricardo underperforming at McLaren, I would still trust the overall lineup of McLaren and Alpine over the lineup that Aston Martin have right now.

but I think they can have I think they can have reasonable objectives for the rest of this year I think that they can score points at every race for the rest of this year that would be a good target to achieve and a double points finish at a couple of those as well

because I think that's something they've only done once I think all year is achieve double points at a race so if they can do that maybe twice in the last six races I think that signifies progress because I think they are going in the right direction but it was just such an awful start to the year

that they were always fighting off the back foot, really. I think it is largely dependent on qualifying. I think that's probably going to be the most important thing because for whatever reason, that car and those drivers on a Saturday, nah, don't work, don't want to go fast. Don't want to do it. They seem all right in terms of race pace, generally speaking, on a Sunday. But the problem is they're always starting from P-18,

or P19, apart from when everyone else has a grip penalty, in which case they might as well have made Q3 after all. But they're so regularly getting knocked out in Q1. If they can make a few upper end Q2 appearances, maybe a couple of Q3 appearances here and there, then maybe they've got something to fight for. Because again, race pace looks okay, but qualifying seems a way off.

That's something they need to look at. Like you. Get good. Get good. in terms of the in terms of championship standings what do you think is achievable Sam yes I think that the only

teams that they can really get near and again that's if they're lucky are alpha towering and harsh I don't think with six races to go and them only ever going to be scoring maybe

from seventh at a real lucky day eight five tenth more likely they haven't got you know the 27 points needed to outscore alpha amaya now. They've only scored 25 points for the whole season so far, so let alone scoring more than that in the last six races, it just isn't going to happen.

But they do only need 10 points to get in front of Haasangafatari. And Haasso, like they're going back quigs, that alpha towering car has been a mess all season. Yuki Singh Ogh is going down a bloody rabbit hole of bad performances. And Gatsley doesn't want to be there. So, you know, those look like possibilities. They're like options. But I think it's going to be so difficult for them to get any further than seventh overall in the constructors.

Do you think seventh is the limit for Aston Martin, Harry? Do you think they can go higher than that or not quite as high? Pretty winning, can they? Yeah. Hang on, let me get the Abacus out again. Oh, God. I realised as well, someone actually made this point. They didn't know what an Abacus was.

Is that a niche British reference? Surely not. No, it's a Latin reference, surely not. It's just a niche reference full stop, I think. It's just a really old-timey accounting. basic accounting device where you... The future is now, old man. Yeah.

Anyway, I don't think first is achievable. I've just done the next. Oh, right. Okay. Actually, I'm going to go... I think I'm going to get one better than Sam here, because I committed 99% to yes. I think they could try and get six. They could get sick even.

It's going to take a lot. think to get the old Alfa-Mayos. I definitely think they could overcome Alvatarian Hass, but yeah, I have the confidence.

I mean, I know that Aston's broke down both last race, but Bottas just doesn't really enjoy finishing races for the most part. So, overrated. Poor lad.

Yeah. Poor, poor Valtry. To be, sorry, this is a tangent again. Valtry, Bottas, just, do you just get the impression he doesn't give a flip anymore? Like not in the way he...

Not the way he drives, but just in life. Yeah. It's chilling. Bucket hat chilling with my gin and my coffee. He's always drinking someone, isn't he? He's always got a bloody drink in his hand. Anyway. I must use the toilet a lot in the day.

Jesus. Anyway, yeah, I think it's going to be tricky, but it's achievable. if my maths is correct on this one the maximum amount of points they can score for the rest of the year is 279 points oh it's on so if you add that with the 25 they've already got

you know that's looking at 304 and 304 is still about 100 behind Ferrari I think so no is the answer a whisker away a whisker Yeah, a paper, a sheet of paper. Worth a recount, I reckon on that one. I think Sikph is achievable because not even looking at Aston Martin and what they could achieve,

it's more looking at the three teams above and how poor they've been for quite a long time now. So if we look at those three teams that are ahead, which are Alpha Romeo, Hass and Alpha Tauri, Alpha Romeo have scored a grand total of one point in the last seven races That's fun They basically scored half of their points In the first four races of the year And now we get to the last seven and it's one point The comparison is just weirdly bad

To summarise Isn't that what we are No, we're just ordinarily bad It's not weird to think we're bad it's just that's what we are. Expectedly bad. No, don't get that other reviews. I can all that I've started saying that line.

Plus no. Yeah, and then you look at the other two teams as well. So you got Alpha Romeo one point in last seven, has no points in the last five, and Alpha Tauri, who've got six points in the last eight races. So all three teams are really struggling to find any points. And so are Aston Martin too. But if they can use this somewhat better car, we think,

versus those three teams in the last few races. Could they find the 27 points to overhaul out for Romeo? Maybe it is unlikely, but who knows? Maybe Landstrol will end up on the podium at Abu Dhabi. No, that's probably not very likely, is it? Maybe Sam's right on this. Maybe Sixth is too far. No, but don't let cynical Sam get you down.

You go for your sick. They'll finish sixth. I'm putting my house on it. Oh, four for your mortgage there, Ben. Two for a penny, three. Lawres just walked in and said, no, no, wait, we can't do that, Ben. I'll take it.

Sorry. Yeah, you're bad. What are you doing? Security. Okay, so basically, they're going to finish sixth or seventh or eighth or ninth. That is what we are summarizing from this segment. You're welcome, folks.

I mean, if nothing else, we provide an educational service. Well, speaking of education, we're going to be playing F1 Order Please right after this. Oh, I'm so bad at that. All right, folks, because Sam's back, it means we can get back to tormenting him with games that he doesn't like. And I swear I didn't mean this, but I've picked the game that he dislikes the most for his comeback. Which is F1, order, please. Whether it's a can of Coca-Cola or a lump of cheese, or we're ordering drivers by the size of their knees.

This game is full of facts, just you wait and see. This is Formula One. Order, order, please. Slaps, though, doesn't it? It slaps. Do you think you should re-record that as the new speaker of the House of Commons? Because it's not actually John Berko anymore. Yeah, but it's not recorded. He's singing it live.

Oh, sorry. So I do it live. Next time you sing it live. And thank you for tuning in very briefly for when you were in America just to do the jingles. Really appreciate that. Yeah, no worries. It was really tiring, but anything for you. Yeah.

F1 order, please. It's Harry versus Sam, as usual. There are six questions overall where there will be a collection of four driver circuits, teams, could be anything. And I will ask them to order them based on a certain thing that I say. It's a bit vague at this point, but trust me, it's easy enough to get. You order things based on something like number of races. You'll get it. Number one through six, Sam as the returning hero, which number would you like? Hero was far too nice. I'll have number two because I'm a big poo at this game.

Good stuff. I've got four teams in front of me for this one. Can you order them from most wins to least wins? No. Okay. I'm taking that a yes, by the way. Okay, Braun. Right.

Tyrell, Honda and Porsche as constructors. as well, not power units or anything like that as constructors. So only as constructors? Yes. Okay, so we're, for example, because so my simple brain understands, we're ignoring, for example, the Red Bull Honda victories. Correct. Okay, I'm writing them down because I'm really bad or remembering the order.

Braun, Terrell. What about McLaren Honda victories? Honda. No, you can count those. I'm going to include them. Yeah, I'm going to have them. What was the last one? Braun, Tyro or Honda.

Porsche. Porsche. Honda and Porsche were the last two. Okay. Oh, this is banter. Can't I get this one, right? From most to least. Braung most,

Honda second, tier or third, Porsche, last. I'm afraid that is not correct. What a shock. Doesn't pick up a point on this occasion. Harry, you have the chance to steal but of course there is the rule in place

where if you try to steal it and also get it wrong you lose a point which was of course put you down to minus 1 do you want to try and steal it? This game I've got sweaty palms here guys go on let's let's steal it It's a drama

It's a drama Mick Straight to the drama what Sorry, Zand, what did you say? You said... I'm not telling you. I will. Let me rewind the podcast. He went Braun, Honda, Tyrell and Porsche.

Okay. Oh, God, I have regrets. I'll go for... Do the same order I did? You imagine. I'm going to go for... I'm going to get a... I'm going to get a...

For Tyrell, Braun, Honda, Porsche, for most least. Tyrell, Braun, Honda, Porsche. Oh, fuck, piss off. Sam's going to leave for another three weeks now. I'm going to go back to people who like me, okay America. Tirol have the most with 23 wins. Braun have eight, Honda have three, and Porsche have just one. So well then, Harry, you don't go in the minuses, you get a point.

And it's your term. Which one would you like? Oh, number three, please. Number three. Sam might be glad that you've got this one because this is horrible. Oh, no. Rest in peace, the French Grand Prix, because this is about Paul Ricard. I'm going to give you four corner names from Paul Ricard.

Can you tell me them from. but where they appear on the track. So first corner to last corner that would appear on a, on the F1 circuit at least. This is a horrible question. And firstly, apologies for any terrible

mispronunciations on these. Signe. Bosse, Mistral, and Hotel. Oh my God, Ben. Is it Mistral?

a straight rather than a corner but also a corner okay I forgot hang on there was scene scene

scenes yes yeah so say scenes absolute scenes um they say

I had the hotel oh this is ridiculous how annoyed Sam are you going to be if he gets this right oh honestly it might be the

into the trio? I don't know where any of them are. Who, who, who, oh, okay. I'll go for, um, um, bloody hell. I'll go for Le Brong to Costa.

Porsche. Porsche, no. Um, Le Bosee, Mistral, uh, senior and then hotel. It is incorrect.

That's a shock. Sam, do you want to try and steal this? I mean, you aren't going to try and steal this. What are the odds? I just guess a random order. I do that every other question.

So I've got as much chance to get it right as I do wrong. That's definitely not true. But okay. What's the B1? called again? Bose. Again, if that's horribly pronounced,

I apologize, everyone in France. And what order did he? How are we going? I can't remember it was wrong. Oh, that's awful. All right. I think he went, was it Bosei Mistral Signeur Hotel? I mean, that's what he went. Okay.

Less, I'm going to steal it. let's do a little journey, right? You go on holiday and you go to your hotel. That's the first one. And then, I've just watched Harry fall over. I missed that. That was supposed to be like I was never gone. Well, he was gone and he fell over.

Anyway, Harry, we're going on a journey for calling names. So we're going to our hotel, that's first. And then when you arrive, the checking guest gives you, you some minstrels, right? Lovely. Nice welcome to the hotel. But then you realise that you're with a senior citizen and they can't chew the minstrels. So hotel minstrel, senior.

I've got nothing for Busei. That's why it hasn't fit into the journey. It wouldn't be somewhere else if I can make it work. I get a drink. Bloody El Sam. Anyway, Boussay's last. That's the journey for France. Can't wait for your minuses.

Good stuff. So, I mean, this is a completely different order to Harry's. You've gone for hotels. first and then mistral and then Sineye and then Bose. I actually know where two are. So I'm, I know that Minkstra is on that back straight, obviously. It's not called Minkstra. I just like calling it Minkstra.

I know that Sineye, I think is the long right-hander after it. So I think that's where those can sit. So I've just randomly put one of them in the front and one of them in the back. Oh dear! I love the French! It's a good strategy. I mean, you're right in terms of the two that you knew. So, Mistral is on the Mistral straight, unsurprisingly.

Senior is that fast right-hander. Bose is actually the corner directly after that fast right-hander. It's the slightly not-so-fast right-hander. Hotel somewhere in the first sector. So it is one apiece. I'm back to you, Sam. I'll have number one, please, Ben. All right, number one.

four drivers that I'm going to list. You have to tell me, from earliest to latest, when they had their first race win. Right. Olivier Pannis. Oh, yes. Oh, you haven't even heard the second one yet. Eddie Irvine.

Oh, you should have you that once I was held by Eddie Irvine at the kids. Actually, I haven't done this meaningfully, but I feel like I've picked your four favorite drivers here. Olivier Pannis, Eddie Irvine. Jean-A-Lazy. Crazy Shogga Lazy And David Coulthard Oh Michael Schuick's biggest rival

I hate that so much That's why I say it Their first win from earliest to latest From earliest to latest I'm going to go A lazy first Irvine second, Pannis third Kortar's fourth as the latest

Almost recent that is not correct i'm afraid harry would you like to try and steal it um oh yeah go on then what the stupid bloody stupid bloody game um i'll go for i'll go for um a lacy first uh Coulthard second Panis third Ervine 4th I forgot the fourth person was I did that every time mate don't worry Alacey DC

Panis Irvine Order Cheeky little nodger He's only gone and done it Panis at the disco Yeah Jean Olaezy and David Kulte

won their first race in the same year 1995 but Elazzi was first and then Coulthard. Pannis then won the Monaco 96 Grand Prix. That was his only win. And then Eddie Irvine to wait a few more years, his first win was in 1999. Did Eddie Irvine only win races in 1999 then?

Yes, I think you are correct. Well, Eddie. Yeah, a nice one, Mike. That makes it 2-1 to Harry. And we go back to Harry again. 4-5 or 6. are any of them as bad as the French people make them all that bad

no that was the worst one of the lot okay I go for number five please Ben number five four drivers I want you to list them in terms of number of seasons competed in from most to least Nico Holcombberg Nicky Loungberg

Nicky Lauder Nicky Lauda Felipe Massa Babyface Oh that's the wrong one Filippa baby And Mark Weber I haven't the one for him

Man Doesn't matter how many times They competed in that season Just how many seasons I'm going to write this down on my pad On my work pad Which is obviously what it's for So Hulkie

Hulkey Hockey Hockey Hockey Hockey He did Yep. Then there was Massa And he did Oh God, who knows?

Two. I don't think he did two, mate. Yeah, he did two seasons. And then we had, I forgot the other two. Louder and Weber for the other two. Louder. I don't actually know how many louder did. Webber did.

Okay. Oh, bloody hell. Least. At least I'm going for... Oh my God. Least I'm going to go for louder. Then I'm going to go for... Sorry, which way around.

Did you want this, Ben? Ah, keep going this way round now. All right. Least I'm going to go for louder. Then it's going to be... Then it's going to be... Oggenberg, then it's going to be Weber and then it's going to be

Massa. That is not correct. Sam, would you like the opportunity to steal this one? I lost Dick Tresk. What order did you give again? So he went louder than Holkenberg, than Weber than Massa. From least to most, obviously.

Yes, he did at least to most, yeah. I'm going to say Hulk least, louder, second least, Weber and then Massa. I'm afraid that's not correct either, so it becomes two nil in terms

of the score line. You were one closer to getting it right than Harry was, but still won away. The correct answer was Holkenberg had the least, but then it was Weber, then louder and then Massa. So Massa had 15, louder 13, Weber, 12,

of Hulkenberg, 11. I would have got bored off when he's through his bloody career. That's not fair. Yeah. I got bored halfway through this podcast. I didn't. I haven't. Everyone else has.

Yeah. They've gone. We've still got, after this game, to talk about what everyone thinks LB stands for. Oh, yeah. Love that bit. Very excited. Stay tuned for that, folks. Do you want a four or four?

or six. Oh, it's my go again. I'll have six, please. Four drivers from most fastest laps achieved to least fastest laps achieved. Ben, getting a big Wilkinson's big. Honestly, you didn't get the French question, which, how on earth did you get that one right, given how many of the other ones you get wrong?

I do not know. When you guess enough times, you might eventually get something correct. broken clock and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, just trying to think of that analogy, but I can remember it, something about clocks. Yeah. So about clocks.

Nico Rosbergh is the first on this list. Jim Clark, Kimmy Reikinen, and Mr. Chunky himself, one Pablo Montoya. Oh, happy birthday, Mr Chunky. That was yesterday, I think. Happy birthday to you.

God save the chunks. Josh. I've got to work them down I've already forgotten half of them Rykingen Montoya aka Missy Chunky Jim Clark

and Nico Rosberg Nice Montoya Clark Clarkie boy and Rosberg Britney 2006 here right

okay let's just do this for fun to not take a thing a long time most fastest laps Reikening then Montoya then Rosberg then Clark That is not correct I'm afraid

What a shucker Harry would you like to try and steal or not Um No I don't want it this time I mean that means you've won Mathematically it would have been a really stupid decision to try and steal it So well well done

You started your list correctly Sam Kimmy Reikinen has the most with 46, but then it's Jim Clark next with 28, which given how many races he did is quite ridiculous. Guy's amazing. Nico Rosberg was third with 20, and then Montoya. I thought Montoya would have more than this, but you had a 12. And then the last one, last one goes to you, Harry.

This one, this one's a bit of a tough one as well, actually. What number is he having? When he does this, when he says, oh, it's a tough one, he's bloody smiling, he's smirking. away. I love it. Smuggle it. What number is it, by the way? Oh yeah.

It's number four. I'll have number four, please. Very good. Oh, I'm going to give you four championship winning seasons. I want you to tell me from most number of points to least number of points what the margin of victory was over the second place driver. Oh, my God. Get a life. Okay, go on then

Off you go 2018 Louis Hamilton Yep 2001 Michael Schumacher 2005 Fernando Alonzo and 1998

Micahackanan So it's the one that's got the biggest winning margin To the least winning margin Correct I was about to ask Tell us the points then Not realizing that

That was the bit we had to work out. I think it's going to tell us some points and that had to be in order. Some maths exercise. It feels like the easy one. 120, 98, 33 and 10. Now put these in order from last least. Year one math.

It's like the classic, how old was Nigel Mansell? Oh, but in what year? And at what age? Tell me. Right. I've forgotten half of them. Hamilton, 2001 Schumacher.

05 Alonzo and 98 Hacquemann. I'll go 01 Schumacher was the most. I've forgotten one of them again. Oh God. So I'm sorry.

2018 Hamilton, 2005 Alonzo and 98 Hackerman Okay, 18 Ham 01. I'm tired, all right, leave it out. 05. Alonzo. Sorry, I'm just writing these down now

so I don't have to make you listen to me ask it what they are again. And 98 hack attack. Hack attack. Right. 01 Schumacher is the most. Then I'm going to go for

no, declined. 18. Oh, I don't know. I don't know, Jeff. Just to remind the listeners here, literally nothing is on the line here. already won. Literally, if he's by steel,

he can't lose. I just want Ben to be less bloody smoke out of it. All right, no, 18 Howlton has the most, then 01 Schumacher, then 05 Alonso,

then 98 Hackan. Oh, dear! Yes, you smug boy. Well done. Yeah, suck it, Ben. I don't really care to be honest. I don't get to a little. I feel happy for it.

you. Don't you? Go back to your turn while a spay. You'll be quiet. Hey, it's a great corner. Lewis Hamilton,

88 point lead over second place. Then Schumacher was second, 58 point lead. Alonzo was 21 points head of Reichenen and then Hackinen won by 14 points in 1998.

Hack attack, you mean? Hack, sorry, hack attack to give him the proper name. Art attack was a good program, won't it?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, great. Great. It's me. The head. If you don't sign off with, I've been, what's his name, Neil Buchanan, I'll be really annoyed. Neil Buchanan. Oh, God, just play them.

Whether it's a can of Coca-Cola or a lump of cheese, or we're ordering drivers by the size of their knees. This game is full of facts, just you wait and see. This is Formula One. Order, order, please. Before we mercifully leave you to your lives, folks, We did ask a question on Twitter earlier today at Lbreaking. What does LB actually stand for? Wrong answers only.

And we said our favourite would get a shout out. So, I mean, there's three of us, so we can each have one favourite. So we'll shout out three. What does LB actually stand for, Sam? There were some really good entries. I entered two myself. You can't pick yourself, surely.

No, I guess I won't then. someone said last beer which is great limited brain cells Lord Bumberclart you know they're all great I'm going to skill the one that you're all annoyed by but I'm going to go low bar by Andrew

well done Andrew at Big Seals something I hope you are a big seal big doggie dog low bar is hilarious because we really do set the bar low for podcasting so yeah love that I'm just going to shout out Lucas Beeler, because that's literally our friend. I suggested his own name.

But that's a very neat reference. The one, and now I can't find it, the one, ah, yes, someone said lovely buffoons, which I think, that's fair. It's very fair. Yeah, there's some real great, great shouts. I have to say

it was overall a very good mixture you're some clever people I will give you that I actually asked band Laura she's not allowed an opinion on this I'm sick of this involvement

there's three of us and that's it I actually asked her this same question and she said straight away what's Laura and Ben I was like oh that's cute That's cute. Right, that's a 36-month band. She's just racking up the month's here.

Lifetime. I felt bad because... LB stands for Lifetime band. That didn't, like, cross my mind at all, but that might be the answer. My favourite one, this one properly made me laugh, was from Frederick,

which was ludicrous bamboo train, because bamboo train is hyphenated. in what world it's that hyphenated word I love it I'm shout out for someone who said Luca Badoa as well Oh God Brazilian stock car racing making a comeback

We are the Luca Badawa of podcast to be honest So So yeah Maybe we'll ask another question similar to that At some point on Twitter Maybe we won't

But if we do, get involved And if we don't do it, then sorry, I even started saying this sentence. Let's get out of here. Sam, if you wouldn't mind doing the honors. Oh, well, what a roller coaster that episode was. We've already talked about Twitter and off, so we'll move on. If you want to follow us on other social media areas, we have Instagram, the late break off on podcast, and when the kids are coming off and we go TikTok in the late break here on

podcast, as we are. Thank you, Ben. Yeah, so, you know, come and talk to us, look at some weird stuff that we're posting. Lots of silly, late breaking related jokes. my head is on a fake plane at the moment on our Instagram, which is varied to scale. Thank you. So that's good.

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then you could go to Patreon, where certain tiers have a lovely reward, such as merch discounts and extra content, and ag-free podcasts, which is a lovely little perk that you can pick up. That is also the best way to support us. That really,

really helps the podcast massively if you, if you sign up on Patreon. So thank you to all those that do, means for the world to the three of us. We haven't got a race this weekend, so we'll just going to be floating around in the ether for a while.

But please talk to us. We just sit here. Sorry, Sam, we just sit here. We turn the mics off and the light. You just look at each other in the dark. And then don't say anything for the next podcast. Yeah. Can't wait to speak to you all next week.

In the meantime, I'll be turning the lights off. Sammy the safe. I've been Ben Hocking. And I've been Neil Buchanan. And remember, keep breaking late. Viking. Get good. That's a lot.

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