The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Are all the 2023 F1 liveries TERRIBLE? | Pimp My F1

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

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just a couple of weeks away from the new season, 2023 is upon us. We've got some important things to deal with before we get there. We've already dealt with teammate wars. That was our last episode. So go and check that one out if you haven't already. We've got more predictions coming up in the next week. But sandwiched beautifully between the two of them, Sam,

is your favorite episode of the year. Yeah, God. And sandwiched is a great way to place it as well because I am Sammy Sandwich, of course. And Pipp by F1. Couldn't be better. Just looking at beautiful, well, they're meant to be beautiful things on very fast things. And these things have let me down this year.

So it's going to be a lot of fun to walk through what we think of each of the liveries. Ben, I believe we've got five categories that we're going to be runging through. Indeed, we do. Indeed, we do. Got nothing to say, Harry. If you were a sandwich filling, what kind of sandwich filling would you be? Chicken and stuffing. Oh, wow.

Huge. Yeah, love it. Love it. Or I'd be a, oh, I forgot the entire name of it. That's so embarrassing. What's the one with the big chicken nugget in it that's got the cheese on the top

and like the tomato salsa on it with like rocket, it's Italian. I hope any of the one you mean. That also sounds delightful. I can't believe. I've forgotten it. This is embarrassing. I'm more worried about that now than anything else.

Well, we'll soon talk about it. It's a chicken parmesan. Oh, well done. Well done. You've got there. So now you can keep all of your anger for liverys, as God intended it, right? We've got a lot coming up on today's show, of course. We are going to be speaking about the FIA, issuing a clarification with the drivers making political statements this year.

F1 needs an American Max Verstappen. Words said by Christian Horner, we'll be discussing that one a little bit later in the show. But, of course, we will be kicking off with Pimp My F1, where we will be rating this year's livery. So we've got five categories, as mentioned by Sam. Our favourite livery, our runner-up, the most improved, the biggest letdown, and the wooden spoon of them all, the one they never want to get, the worst livery award.

Goes on the car. So we'll kick off. It's slapped on the side. It does. Lernery, late breaking. And you might think, surely late breaking can't mandate that, and you'd be right in thinking so. yeah we have to sneak it we'll start with

favorite livery Sam this is your opportunity to be positive before I'm sure a whole lot of negativity will get in the way but what is your favorite livery for 2023 I'll tell you what

when we began livery season I thought picking my best livery is going to be like picking out your favourite poo out the toilet really it's going to be like I don't want any of these this is good you know I'm not the thing people do

You know, it's a vile analogy, but it's correct, and I stand by it. But, you know, when we got to the end of livery season, not the very end, we're going to just cut it off right before the end. But when we get towards the end, it started to look a little bit better, a little more refreshing. It came down to two that long very close together. And it is between Mercedes with that all black, man, you know, if you're going to do carbon, you make it all carbon. And it's like a, you know, the black night rises again kind of thing with that neon popping. or you go Ferrari is hard to make a red car look bad

but they have done in the past and this year they did not especially with that lovely Ferrari emblazoned on that rear wing it really is a little bit sexual and also the design itself right those side pods are like

actual bathtubs and I need them to be bathtubs because that livery makes me feel like a bit of a dirty boy and I need to have a wash so thank God that they provided two in one it's the Ferrari is

just pipped it for me, I think, as my favourite livery. And the incredible launch that they did has helped to push it over the age. Doing your shakedown as part of your launch was a brilliant idea and I loved it. So Ferrari for me is the best livery of the year. Well done Ferrari. I think that's two in a row, actually. You're correct. It is two in a row from yourself. But there's a team looking for three in a row from a certain Harry Ead. Because in 2021 and In 2022, Aston Martin has collected the best livery on the grid. Is it the three, Pete? There's three.

Are you going in a different direction, Harry? I would love to make it a triple threat, but that Ferrari is too filthy. I can't. Dirty, dirty boy. Yeah, I agree with Sam. Who knew writing Ferrari on your rear wing would make it so good? Oh, I felt like a little boy again, you know. Stricer genius.

Yeah, it's a good looking car. Don't mess it up. Please, Ferrari. Your car looks so good. Both your drivers are beautiful looking. You've got a handsome team there. Just don't mess it up. And we're great looking as well, so that helps.

Also helps. You can't see that on a podcast, but yes. Yeah. Love that. How's that at the end of my point? Yes, we are handsome. It's a great philosophy that if we suck, we're going to look good doing it, right? Yeah, fair, fair.

If it all capitulates, which, let's face it, it probably will. We're going to look all right in doing it. Nice one, Ferrari. I hope they've put the same amount of effort into developing their strategy team over the winter break. I'm not too hopeful. My favorite livery, by a country mile, the best livery for me was Mercedes. I know it's technically not even a livery, fine. I get your point.

They just didn't bother. But that should tell you a lot about the standard of the liveries this year, that Mercedes didn't really bother, and they're still my favorite by a mile. It's simple, it's like, I've always been a fan of the more simple designs. I don't like it when a car is trying to do too much. And you definitely can't say that's the case here for Mercedes. They're definitely not trying too much on this car. But they don't need to.

I've always preferred the black livery to the silver one. I know it goes against the tradition of the silver arrows. I don't care. The black one looks bloody amazing, doesn't it? And there's something so cool about it. I love how the numbers pop on both cars. I kind of wish they went a slightly different color with Russell's one, but certainly with Lewis Hamilton's number and with the,

it just immediately pops out at you, which is great. And I mean, I've always liked these simple designs. So it was always going to be a winner for me. I know they've been teasing this for the last month or so as to, oh, remember when we had a butt every way? And they actually went ahead and in it. So fair play to you. But Mercedes was my favourite and quite frankly,

one really close. the reason I did I did a good for Mercedes the top one for me was because you know the patroness line that they have down the side I just hate that it's a different

shade of like slightly neon colour than all the other shades of neon colour that are already on the car and it frustrated me that they don't match it's like a weird random minty bluey green

and then like a day glow neon yellow and then a bit of a day glow green and I'm like I'll match it up for me that's all I wanted a bit of unison So that was where it fell short.

Just shy. So favourite livery from late breaking as a collective does go to Ferrari. So congratulations, Ferrari on winning the only thing that you're going to all year. Oh, hang on, I haven't got the clap, pretty. I mean, don't worry about it. Too late now, aren't it? It's gone. Moment's gone.

Sam. It's never too late. Oh, good. We've got it in. The audience were outside. I waited, so we had to run in. Everyone loves my fast reactions on this podcast. Runner up, who have you got, Sam?

Well, I think I just let that leak, but it's for the reason I just stated. It was actually pretty close, but Mosegis have come second. Why ever bothered doing a silver livery ever again? They don't look anywhere close to being that good. And I don't, if you look through all of the Msegeys, you know, we'll ignore the 1950s ones, but since they rejoin Formula One, they don't come close to those black liveries and you get weight saving out of it as well

so it's a double bonus. I can think they look mean, they look cool, they actually are lean when you've got Lewis Hamilton driving the car who is just such a brilliant black athlete as well it's so good to like embrace it and really show it all off all in one thing so is day glow yellow helmet works brilliantly with it as well

so while that's all going in the right direction it's a clever choice, it makes sense like I said the reason it's not top spot is don't like the ingeos red on the back of the rear wing, and I don't like the Patronus different coloured line that runs down the side of the car, would like it if those all matched up in some variation. But it's still a gorgeous car, and it very much reminds me of the Renault testing black livery that we had, I think, in 2019, I think it was, 2020, maybe. Anyway, yeah, it was lovely.

Yeah, the only reason I'm okay with the Ineos red is because of what it was like last year. I appreciate it's a bit relative, but it completely destroyed what was, for me at least, the potential to be a pretty good livery last year. I think that red just destroyed it where I don't think it does this year, even if it is a mild distraction. Runner up for you, Harry. Runner up is the winner for the past two years for me. I'm going further.

Aston Martin, the green is still delightful for me. I think probably the reason it's not in my top spot is, and like a lot of cars this year. There's less of it. There's less of the green, like racing green, but also less of the lime accents as well, which is a shame because I thought last year's was delightful. So they're in the runner-up spot, but still, that's still a solid.

Green, I think, fell out, we've got used to it too much already. The green, green, I'm the green racing car. It's nice. It's nice to have that. I really agree. Which is good. You know the livery they have in WEC,

which is almost the really, really day glow, yellow E Askin Martin. It's got like the red Aston Martin logo on the side of it, I think it has. I would really like to see that put on a Formula One car. Maybe it's like a one off, something like a special or something like that, because I think Asking have got like a bit of a niche with that colour skin. I would stand out, a day glow green. A phone car. Yeah. It means we are in a position where the three of us each have a different runner up, which is, which is good. my runner-up, pure, pure Menardi vibes going on here, and I love it. Hasse is second place for me.

I really like that livery because it looks like it's going to go about 10 miles an hour and be awful. And I mean that in the best way possible. It does. And I don't know, it just has vibes of classic back marker livery. And again, I mean that as a couple. compliment. It looks really good. Again, if you're going to go for the more simple designs as your preference, then it makes sense that the Hasse is going to be one of my favorites. And I've actually liked the Hasse liveries over the last few years more than the average person does. I was fine

with their one last year as well. But yeah, I didn't know what to expect from Hasse, but I exceeded my expectations, perhaps too much because that was essentially what kicked off. the livery season. I was saying, wow, all right, I like this one. We're in for a good. Oh, no, that one's the same. Oh, that one's the same. Oh, that one's the same. Well, that's a slight downgrade of the same one they had last year. Oh. So it might have raised my expectations too much, but I did like the Hass. So we don't have a unanimous selection on that. No one gets the award. No one gets the public choose. Well, you say that. We did actually let the public choose because we put this question in the

Discord to say who has the best livery. And I believe the Mercedes did come away as the winner on that. I think it was a close run thing between Mercedes Ferrari and Alpha from memory. I don't have it in front of me at the moment. But yeah, make sure you do get in the Discord as well. So the link is in the description and it'll be very active over the course of the season. So before 2020, season starts, make sure you're in there. Most improve livery, Sam. Well, Ben, I'm going to take a leaf out of your book, which is not something I do often. It's a rather large book, so it's hard to find one. But Haas, right? Like, they came out first. They often don't have a personality. And I still don't think it really would excel if I had to rank all the liveries

from one to 10. But considering that that livery last time was atrocious, this, as you're right, gives classic back marker vibes. It feels like it might be the slowest thing to ever go around the F1 track. But when I play the F1 game next year, and I like sitting in it for a season, probably, well probably quite enjoy it. And I miss those kind of

of Mangardi-esque, super aguri-esque cars, you know, that, you know, at MF1, that sit at the back that have these boxy weird liveries you think, weirdly though,

quite like you, quite like it. And I say with the heart, it's like almost got like a little soft spot this year. Hate the Mungy Graham, despise Mungy Graham. Sorry, Mungy Graham,

if you think that's what's been in the podcast. but hate, and, you know, would like it if that wasn't there. But if they brought that black into the situation, it wasn't the carbon fibre, fine, well done. It's a much better livery than last year, and that's why I've given it most improved. All the others, you've got really changed. So I don't feel like they can really go into the category of most improved. Do you have the most improved, Harry? Already been mentioned, but Mercedes for me, most improved.

Very odd how quickly that can be done by just not painting your car. but it works. I like the black Mercedes more than the silver Mercedes, and yes, I know the silver arrows, but I don't know. You look back at the 2020-2020 and 2021 liveries. They look mean. They look mean those cars.

So I'm glad they've gone back. I know the reasoning is different this time. I know they obviously still stand for the same values, but this time is not because they want. they wanted to is because out of necessity they don't want to pick their car too much

so yeah I just think it looks so much better and you're right with the Ineos thing doesn't work with the silver and it never has even when they brought it out in 2020 initially in silver but when it's in black

way better so Mercedes most improved for me I guess they now have a chance to set a bit of a precedent in terms of if the car's really good this year and they're competing for a championship or indeed winning a championship, they might never go back to silver again because at that point, you've basically

had one duff year where you were in silver and all the other ones were good and you're in black. So yeah, forget all the other championships we want in silver. They don't count. Recent precedent at least. My most improved, I really struggle with this category because ordinarily, when we do PIM my F1, I'll give my favourite livery, I'll give my second favourite livery, and there'll be at least one or two others that didn't get first or second, but were an improvement on last year. I guess exactly what's happened with Sam, where he's said Hasse is that third livery that didn't make the top two, but was an improvement. The issue is, Hasse was second for me, so I don't really have some,

I don't really have a team that fits in this category because of all the 10 teams, I only think two of them improved. Mercedes and Hass that I've already given awards to. So I don't really have much of an option here. Mercedes, I did say, was, I think I put it as my biggest letdown last year. So it makes sense that it's the most improved this year as it's now first again. So I probably have to give it to them. But I genuinely don't think some of the ones that were middle of the pack last year

have really done anything to transform themselves. of. Sorry, Mercedes gets a double award. Typical German bias. Yeah, that's it, Ben. Is that a real?

You love the Germans. Yeah. It always works for Brit bias, so I assume it has to work for all the other. German bias. Okay, nice. We're going to be more negative after this short break because we're

giving out our awards for biggest letdown and the worst slivery. Damn you, carbon fiber. I don't say about a baby bell. No. No mention of the baby bell, Jesus. Christ, good.

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Who did you have high hopes for that were completely dashed, Sam? I had high hopes of paint. You know, paint in general, the world of paint has been ruined by one metallic, is it metal? I don't know, compound, I guess. And that is carbon fibre. Damn you, carbon fibre. You've ruined the thing that begins your very name.

You can't spell carbon without cars, and you've ruined it, sir. What a great point. I am furious that carbon fibre is dominating liveries. I'm furious that we've just got patches of random black lines everywhere on every car. Every car beyond this point looks... there's one actually, I disagree with that point. But every car, but the one I'm thinking of looks gnaff, and they look gnaff

because of carbon fibre. And it's honestly infuriated me. I tweeted the other day. And I think I'm making a point in our, you know, our, um, pop the brakes. No exposed carbon fiber. You know, you have to paint it. If you're going to paint it black,

like the Rolling Stones once said, that you've got to paint it black. It cannot be carbon fiber. It's ruined it. Livery season this year was rubbish. I know I'm talking about the biggest letdown. but I'm fuming and I've waited about 18 minutes to make this point. So I am absolutely fuming.

The biggest letdown, by the way, was Red Bull for multitude of reasons. One, worst car launch I've ever experienced in my entire life. How dare you keep me waiting on a bus that I had to watch it with my egg foaming for 53 minutes of that journey. Lucky there was traffic. To see that blimbing car, you bring someone like Ford in and you launch a car that is exactly the same as last kid, but with a bit more carbon exposed, and the sponks has slightly moved around. Rubbish. And then, about two

days later, you fly a bloody airplane backwards over a Formula One. Or you couldn't do that for your launch. You're having an absolute Tim Bath, Sunshines, and I'm not happy with you. That's hurt me, because you could have done that really nice white livery with the Honda, right? And we

haven't got a proper white car, haast. It's the closest thing to it. And I think we need more brightness on this grid. And Red Bull had that, you know, they leaked it for so long. Could it change? Can we have something new? Ford are coming on board. That rhymes. You know, what happens next? It's the same freaking car. Psych. Pager had you in the first half. We're really boring. And it was rubbish. I'm so angry. I'm going to have to stop because otherwise need to speak. But I could go on like this for a long time. So Red Bull are the

biggest letdown, but carbon fiber are by far the biggest enemies of this podcast right now. Thank you. All right, so Biggest Letdown did eventually go to Red Bull but actually the award might as well go to carbon fibre. Good stuff. And it is very true. You can't spell carbon fiber without car.

What a quote. Only the best analysis here on the Lake Breaking F1 podcast. Biggest letdown for you, Harry. Sorry, this is coming from. the same man who 20 minutes ago started talking about making poo out of his minute. So I don't know what you expected. That was the more sane of the two.

Biggest letdown. I haven't gone for Red Bull, but I fully agree. And I did this on the pump the brakes as well. I hate F on launches now. But I agreed the Red Bull launch was just awful. But in terms of delivery, I'm not let. I can't say I'm let down by it now because we know, we knew that was going to happen.

and we're, three of us are mugs for watching that lodge for 52 minutes. I was baited. Fifty three minutes waiting. Yeah, baited. So the biggest letdown for me is Williams because they've got golf on the car now. They've got golf on the car. I was rocking in his chair. He's so angry.

Yeah, they've got golf. And every shit, it's only a first year of the deal. And they said, oh, you know, we could change delivery up. I was like, well, why haven't you? What have you gained? I mean, I guess it's the whole paint issue again. But I was really hoping, because the golf thing had been rumoured for a few weeks or so. And I was really hoping we'd get a snazzy looking Williams in the same way that they had with martini.

Because, you know, I know they did the same thing over and over again. But when it first came out, that was iconic and loved that livery. So I was hoping they were doing something there. But they didn't. And I was sad about that. I also feel like I just need to give the floor back to Sam. to talk about the Durassel Airbox. The Curacao Airbox is probably the thing

that will make me angriest this year. Can't have fight with that. Why? The Curacao Airbox takes the tea. Jerusalem, if you're listening to this, you've fueled, you powered my year of anger and hate because actually, it's not your fault. It's not even their fault.

It's good marketing. It makes sense. It just annoys me that every other media outlet in the world didn't see it last. apparently didn't exist to you. You're all blind, apparently. The airbox on the Williams in Miami didn't exist. So, you know, you're all fools and it annoyed me.

And also in order to the Williams got no sponsors other than golf of JuraSel. What's happened to your marketability? You're in the mud. It's boring. And Harry makes a very good point. Where's the gold sponsorship? I go. I've kept it short.

This for you, Ben. I like the Williams and every. And that's where the podcast ends, folks. Thank you. I don't disagree with the point that potentially they could have gone down a different path with it, with golf being involved. And I mean, we saw, yeah, we saw, go on. I said, I don't dislike it, to be fair.

I don't dislike the Williams livery, but I just let down by the possibility of it. I can't, I can't disagree with that. It's, yeah, I like, I like the livery. Golf-wise, they definitely could have done more. McLaren showed the way two years ago in that respect. So, that's right. Harry's attacks my airdrums. Good stuff.

So I'm not going to give it to Williams, but understand the reasoning for it. I cannot give it to Red Bull because I had zero expectations. Honestly, any one of you that was baited into the fact that it might be different, you deserve everything that you get,

you fools. Unless you're relatively new, unless you're relatively new to F1, in which case, that's acceptable. But if you've been around for 10 years and you were expecting it to be different because Ford was there, no. If there's one thing that Red Bull

have taught us over the years, it will never change its livery. You could try and give them a 200 million fine for it. They wouldn't change it. I had no expectation, so they can't be biggest letdown. Mine's not going to be a popular choice. My biggest letdown was Ferrari, because whilst I think it is fundamentally

a pretty good livery, I do like the livery. And if I was ranking them 1 to 10, I'd probably put it up at about four. So I think it was a good livery. The problem is it has the potential to be the best livery on the grid. If it weren't for that bloody black splodge on the side of the car, I think it looks horrible. The problem is the first angle I saw of it was front on.

And I thought, oh my word, this is beautiful. The Ferrari on the bat, that's a brilliant bit of design they put in there. That's great. and then I looked at the side view and like, oh, what's that doing there? Just all red on, if it was all red on the side, probably my favourite livery.

That's why it's the biggest letdown because I think it was so close to being perfect and they just ruined it with one thing. This podcast is the biggest letdown, really, isn't it? Ferrari already, it's only Feb and Ferrari already making Ben mad. Congrats, guys. That implies I wasn't mad at them in January.

and I'm sure there was some sort of reason I was. Yep, sorry, Ferrari. Biggest letdown goes to you. And finally, Wood and Spoon Award, Worst livery. Who has finished 10th of 10, Sam? I can't believe this car's going to get worse livery from me. I'm actually shocked.

If you've said to me in January, worst livery, who do you think's going to take it before we're seeing it? This would have maybe being my eighth or ninth choice of who gets it. Alpha Tauri, what are you doing with that all and red on that car? went from being one of the best-looking car.

When it was, you know, as last year of the Toro, or so, we had that lovely, extravagant blue and shiny red, and you looked like a can, right? Went like a... Underated livery. One of the best liveries of this century. Spectacular. And then you move forward, they become Alpha Tarran.

They got, it's almost lovely, like, grey-set blue. And it was classy. It was nice. It was fashionable. I liked it. It makes sense. And then you've gone and slapped... I mean, Flexbox were there last time.

But now then, what? What is Flexbox for a start? And Orland, what's happened to baby Robert Kubitsa? He's got propping it anymore. And now they've just made a car that terrible. It's almost like murder of a car. It's disgusting. And I hate the red.

It's awful. It's atrocious. Get me of it. That car is a sore on the eye. So I'd rather it was carbon fibre black. That's how much I hate it. Yeah, they are by far the worst livery on the grid. It just doesn't work at all.

There's no, if you look on a colour wheel of what works and what doesn't, what you created, it don't work. Don't work. It don't work, says Sam. Harry, what did you have as the 10th place? This is probably the hardest one out of all the categories because I think there's a lot of contenders for this one. But I think Sam's is a valid choice.

I have gone for Alpine purely because they can't make up their minds paint it pink, you cowards. I mean, come on. Just don't do it just for the first three races. Paint it pink the whole season. Looks better than the blue and pink anyway.

And this year, I know I saw a comparison of what the car looked like by the end of last year and what they launched a couple of days ago. Actually, it's quite similar. For me, I don't know why that one stood out the most with the whole carbon fiber thing. Maybe because the other colors are quite bright compared to it. But it just looks awful.

I hate it. I really hate it. I just paint it pink, please. For the love of God. So, yeah, sorry, Alpine, but there were a few in here. Yeah. To be honest, I know you like the has, both of you, but I'm still mad of them for not doing the whole American thing properly.

Oh, yeah. I won't give this a war to them, but come on. you impostors we're America's F1 team shut up also thank you to the person on their note who tweeted us saying that we should do it

Harry is the Hass of late breaking t-shirt work on a design cheers ha seed I really appreciated that yeah worst livery for me

there were two contenders and you've said them both I gave it to the Alpine last year because I said the pink livery is rubbish and somehow the other one's worse. And I'm pretty much at the same spot again where I don't like either of them. So run whichever one you want, guys, you're probably not getting a positive review from me. I don't know.

It just looks bad. It looks like, I don't know, you've ordered a Force India off of Wish. Like it's just it hasn't worked. Good effort, but no. that was awful. And it was going to get the award, if not saved by Sam's choice of Alpha Tauri, because goodness me, that is one of the worst liveries. It's not only the worst livery this year. That is one of the worst liveries I've seen in the last decade. I don't even know what to say about it. You've basically covered my point, Sam, but it's like they've tried to do five different things in one,

and it just hasn't worked. And the main issue is the Allund sponsor because it just doesn't fit with the car. And there is developing a pattern here because in 2020, oh sorry, yeah, in 2021, the team I gave the best to was Alpine and last year it was worse.

I actually gave Al-Fatari the best award last year and now it's the worst, which basically confirms the Mercedes will now have the worst livery next year because that's the only one. way it works. But goodness, me, how do you mess it up so much?

I'm kind of speechless on this one. It's so bad. Yeah. Yeah, it hurts the eyes. It rivals for me, the 2015, 2016 Salba that Checo drove, the white one with the weird black

zigzag line down the middle of it with the Chelsea logo on it on the front of it. That might be the worst livery of the decade, but it's up there, you know. the only compliment I can give them is that they revealed the car so quickly that I've got whiplash from it and that's it correct everyone else was so slow they just were like his car and then and then everyone was sick because it looks so awful get out the way quickly ripped the band egg off one thing i forgot to do that i think would have been a great idea is put together a leaderboard of all of the teams for launches as to when do they release their

how many minutes after their launch time do they release their car and see how they would have stacked up? Because that might well have impacted my rankings here. I think we've covered about eight teams throughout our awards. I don't think we've had any mention of McLaren or Alpha Romeo yet. Sam, you've got any thoughts on those two? Yeah, I'm going to put the steak sponsorship out of my mind for Alpha because I like the way they've used the carbon shock. I think if you're going to do it, it's a big block like that with that lovely red, it works. I don't absolutely love the livery, but I do think it's smart, it looks nice. The McLaren, on the other hand, is very much like the Alpine. I think,

where are you put in that carbon fibre? The colours are not working as a partnership at all anymore. They had orange and blue, you know, papaya and blue locked down as McLaren's colours. And I think they're just tarnishing it. It is really, really grim the way they're layering those certain, I don't know what, the right, pigments. Those pigments of those versions of colour, do not work together. And I think that they've got so many sponsorships on the car now that it looks really messy, really scruffy. I don't think it has an identity anymore.

McLaren for me is really grim. It would be down there as one of the worst deliveries, but I think Alpine and, and, and, and, and, Alpheterre, thank you. Definitely just pip it to the spot. But McLaren, I think, was really gross, really bad, never very disappointed with it. Any thoughts on those two, Harry? Yeah, McLaren is, look, there's has become a bit. messy, as Sam says, but, you know, if you look at it from where they were a few years ago when

it was, had no sponsor, when they first brought the papaya back in 2018, they had nothing on it. So, you know, I get it, it's a, but it's a not good looking car, but also glad to that they have sponsors now. So you can't, you know, can't criticize that. But it's, it is, I do feel like they could do something. There's too many different sort of colors going on. They've got big chunks of the orange, but also, sorry, papaya, but big chance of that, like, turquoisey blue, which I think it needs. So, it's a bit of a mess.

But, yeah, Alpha Romeo, I actually quite like, and like Sam says, probably one of the least defensive ones. A bit worried it's going to look similar to a Ferrari this year. Try to pick that one out on track. Good luck, Crofty. But, you know, I still, I still, the alpha,

Alpha Amaya just sort of sits in the middle. I like the livery, but it doesn't scream at me, but I also don't detest it. Who came up with that idea about each team having one major core colour that they should, you know, and then you can have whatever accent you want? I'm pretty certain someone came with that really good idea that meant each team would stand out and be different from each other. But I, you know, someone must have said it. Can't remember who.

Someone probably did. But then they made an analogy about toilets. So this, you know, just stuff. like a different guy entirely. Even a broken clock is right twice a day or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, neither of those, you know, do much for me, but also I'm not totally mad at them.

Yeah, they're just, yeah, they're just okay. Yeah, overall, people seem to really like the Alpha Romeo. and I think it's fine, but also I don't quite get a lot of the hype that's going on around it. I actually preferred last year's one. I preferred the white and red to the black and red, but I think it's still perfectly okay livery.

I think it's probably middle of the pack, same as you guys. With McLaren, yeah, it's just trying to do a bit too much. I think it's, color-wise, it stands out. Like, that's the one thing you can't hold against McLaren is that I think with the papaya going on,

you're always going to know exactly who it is. But I... Yeah, I just think they need to roll it back. I think it's a worse version of the one they had last year, and I didn't particularly love last year's one either. So just keep it a bit more simple. Just keep a bit more simple. I agree with your point on the sponsorship, though.

A busy car is probably good for McLaren as a whole, even if it's not good on the eyes for someone that they literally don't care about like myself. Have McLaren inadvertently stopped Williams running a golf livery because they essentially run the golf colours without golf sponsorship. So Williams can't have a lovely blue

and orange of that dusted blue. You remember when McLaren ran it in Monaco, didn't it? It was a one-off. Everyone loved it. It was gorgeous. And then it almost stops Williams doing it because they've been the same car, but the Williams would look better if it had the actual golf colours.

I mean, Ferrari and Alpha Male, they've got the same colours, red and black. So I don't know. They didn't stop. you, but maybe they did consider, maybe they thought, I don't know, maybe. Maybe it was just too late notice. Who knows? So that'll do it for Pimp My F1.

We'll take a short break and we're going to be discussing F1 potentially needing an American Max Verstappen on the other side. Yihaha. Is that the only difference? It's just Max Verstappen in the cowboy hat shouts saying, yeah. Yes. Yes. Might as well not do this stopping.

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obviously Logan Sargent is now in the sport, to which he said, it's great to have him there and he's a talented young guy, but he's going to be limited in what he can do. The problem is if you're finishing 14th, 415th, it doesn't really turn people off. All right, Christian. I think if he was fighting at the front in a competitive car, then you'd see something like what happened with Fernando Alonzo in Spain or Czechos Perez and the reaction in Mexico. So that's what we need.

An American driver fighting for victories and world championships. Sam, what are your thoughts on Christian Horner's comments here? And do you agree that for F1 to take the next step in a market like the US, it's going to need a homegrown driver, but not just a homegrown driver, but one that's actually competing for wins and championships, as Warner suggests. Yeah, I'm going to break it down into two halves of this argument. The first is going to be about the marketability of the sport. It's proven to work, right?

You look at any driver's nationality, and then you look at the success of Formula One in that region after they join and start doing relatively well. It's always been a success in Britain because we've always had relatively successful British drivers. Look at how it always was in Spain since Fernando's joined. It's, you know, Formula One has become huge. It's Fernandez, bigger presence there. Now you've got the likes of Carlos Sainz, obviously, racing.

And Christian made a great point with the likes of, you know, the growth in Mexico with Czechos, or even with Poland with Robert Kubitsa. You know, you can really see Excel. Australia loved Formula One for the same reason. And China is another good one in that region, of course, we show one new. Now, we haven't had a lot of American presence on the grid. You know, you have to cast your mind back a little further for the likes of Scott Speed when he graced Formula One's world for it to really be, of course, a legend of the game,

you know, for it to really become a prominent sport there, you do have to have some kind of success. And if America is the big target market for Formula One, which it appears to be, with, of course, three races being there, they having a driver that the locals who are new to the sport can root for makes total sense. You know, if you're a young British person and you go, oh, I've seen drive to survive.

I don't really understand a lot of what's going on, but what do I do? well, George Russell, Landon Norris are both young guns from maybe your local area, and you could get behind them, or maybe Lewis Hamilton is someone you're aware of, you could get behind it, the same goes between other countries, it makes sense. And Logan's Sergeant trailing around at the back potentially is not going to look good for American sporting tulling. It's not going to be motivational for young people to get into a cart and learn to drive fast and then go up through the ranks and potentially go into the sport.

And I think, realistically, it is going to potentially hinder talent moving to form I think there's a second part to this comment though and maybe an underlying point the Christian was trying to make that you remember in summer last year when we had an Alpha Tauri seat open Christian was very keen on getting one Colton Herta into the sport and I actually think that he's made this point as a bit of a dig as a bit of a look F1 and FIA

we almost gave you an open door where a young American driver who has been successful who has built up a following who people know could have come into this sport and we have we could have in theory put him on that red ball trajectory, right? Two seasons are Alva Tauri. He's successful. He's going race swinging car within two seasons.

Your marketability is huge. You've missed out on that. That's your loss. I know you haven't got it. And I think he's got a very good point for it. We've seen exceptions made in the past for super licences. This one wasn't, for some reason, despite him racing competitively in a fantastic series that is Indy car,

that is still rating so poorly on the super license point scale, which it shouldn't be. So I think Christian was also making a bit of a crafty dig. at the way that the super licence points are put together and the way that you could have had a young American driver coming to the sport and you've lost out. So Logan Sargent has to sit at the back. But for me, it will make total sinks

to have a competitive American driver on the grid. Maybe not a championship winner, but, you know, podium sitter, points scorer would look a lot better than 19th or 20th, 19th or 20th. And I think they missed out on that last year. That's a great take on Colton Herta, actually. I hadn't even thought of it in that respect. But I think you're absolutely right.

Yeah, I completely forgot that Christian Horner did actually open the door for what he's complaining about now. So, yeah, that's an interesting one. Harry, what's your thoughts on Horner's comments? Yeah, I think he's, you know, I kind of agree with him, which is odd because I don't think we say that very often. But F1 has flirted with this in the past with other American drivers, but they've either come in and been Scott Speed or they've been Michael. Andretti and just not had a great time. Oi, stop it. You've rattled him. You've rattled him.

Yeah, I mean, look, anyway, I've got to get to a Michael Andretti debate, but look, they didn't have great success in F1, whether that's to do with the car or their own talent. And, you know, that might be the case again, as Sam mentioned, for Logan Sargent. And is that what, like, say,

you're a new, you're a new, you're a new, you're a new fan LF1, you're from the US, and you go, oh, there's a, you know, there's a US driver in this year. I'll, you know, I'll root for them. And then they, there's Logan Sargent plodding about at the back. I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but it could happen in that, William. So, it's not, it's not a great look.

So I know you can't really manufacture that, you know, having a top, a US driver at the front. But I think it's needed. I think, I think it's needed. And I think it's doable. And as Sam mentioned with Colton Hurt, I think there are, opportunities here that F1 should be more willing to jump on. Because I think it looks good, especially with the amount of races we're going to have in the US now. So yeah, I agree.

I don't think he necessarily has to be Max Verstaffin with a cowboy hat. But, you know, but have the talent, cowboy hat and Stetsons. Yeah, but have the talent of Max Verstaffin or Lewis Hamilton. and be fighting at the front, I think that would do, would only help to, only serve to increase everyone's popularity ever in the States. So it's a good call, Christian.

Won't say that again for another 12 months. Good stuff. I think it's an interesting one as to what comes first. It's almost a chicken and egg scenario in terms of what comes first. Is it the great driver from a nation that then draws the popularity to that nation? or is it going to these countries where there isn't much popularity

and then drivers coming off the back of that, if that makes sense? So you've got, say, China as an example, with Zhou Guan Yu being the first Chinese driver, I would hazard a guess and say F1 going to China caused that rather than the other way round, where let's say Brazil as an example. So the first 20 years of F1, there wasn't really any Brazilian representation. Emerson Fittipaldi comes along in 1970 and makes his debut. Within a few years, F1 is going to Brazil and has been there ever since. So in that situation, it was almost the driver came first, I think, and then the popularity

came about after that. So I think it can probably work both ways. And I think they somewhat go hand in hand. But I think at least to this point, what F1 have been. been doing in the US is the former of the two, almost going there, trying to generate the excitement, and then the talent coming as a result of that rather than the other way round. And you made a few good points, Sam, in terms of other countries where it's been the case. So you mentioned Britain, obviously, there's been, Britain's one of the biggest markets for Formula

1 and there's been champions from the UK in pretty much every decade since the 1950s. But there are others as well. I mean, you've got Spain and Mexico, both of which you and Christian Horner mentioned, and then you've got Germany. Am I right to say it? I was thinking about the German sort of link here. Am I right in thinking that this is the first season in over 30 years where either Michael Schumacher or Sebastian Vettl is not on the grid?

Yes. I think you are exactly correct. Because, yeah. It's weird, isn't it? So you have to go back to, like, the earliest of the early 90s for the last time that a premier German talent wasn't on the grid. And again, that goes hand in hand in terms of popularity. F1's always been popular in the Netherlands.

Very rude to Nico Halkenberg, mate. Sorry, Nico. My bad. Think about the Netherlands. F1's always been popular in the Netherlands, but Max Verstappen has certainly helped advance that way beyond what it was over the last few years. as well. So I think he's probably right. The one exception to the rule, I think, is probably Italy, where no disrespect to the likes of Yarno Trulli and Giancali and Giancala, but we haven't

had a brilliant Italian driver in a very long time. Yeah, I think they're more attached to the team than they are an individual driver. And I think that's why Christian... The one speaks to my mind being that you bring up with this, with this kind of, you know, driver slash nation link is actually, for me, is Finland. We have such extreme talent all the time coming from Finland and Scandinavia. You know, it's not just Finland, but majority of be Finland. And, you know, I know obviously the weather there is extreme, it's cold, but it's not extreme all the time. In summer, in southern Finland, it's around the same as what it would be in, you know, northern Germany and parts of France and things like that. They have a nice warm summers. So I am

very shocked that we've never gone to Finland, maybe just because the population of the nation is very small. but Finland have always been very present in Formula One. From memory, they do have a FIA grade one circuit in Finland. I can't for the life many think what it's cool, but I'm pretty sure it's grade one already, if not grade two. Probably not wrong. Yeah, I was just going to say, actually, why I think Christian Horner's right here in terms of the Logan Sargent

comparison and saying that him finishing 13th from 14th probably isn't going to do much for the US in terms of growth. he's probably right because let's say hypothetically, Lewis Hamilton at the end of this season leaves Mercedes and he goes to Huss. Seems believable if you're playing the F1 game possibly, but let's say that happens. How many people turn around and say,

okay, I've supported Lewis and Mercedes for a long time, but unfortunately, Mercedes is my team, so I'm no longer a fan of Lewis. Hamilton because I'm staying true to the team rather than to the driver. I don't think many people are going to fit in that category. I think people support, largely speaking, they support drivers over teams. Again, the only exception to that might be Ferrari. But that's why I think that actually he's probably right.

Well done, Christian. What a sad little life. You're correct. Let's move on to the FIA. issuing clarification about when drivers must not make political statements. There's a lot. There's a lot on this, to put it bluntly. So firstly, they have stipulated when it is acceptable to be political and religious

and all the rest of it. They said, it's acceptable on social media. It's acceptable where they have interviews with accredited media. it's acceptable within FIA press conferences if they are asked about it by an accredited journalist. Where it's not okay to be political and religious is basically any time on the track before, during or after the race, so that will include cool down room, podium, national anthem, driver's parade, that's all not allowed. And also, again, in press conferences, where they're not directly asked by an accredited media member.

They have also got into what classifies as political and religious. I would be here until we're two hours in to go through all of that, so I'm not going to. Sam, do you think this helps matters? Oh, this is really dodgy ground to be walking along here, Mr and Mrs. FIA, you know, Frederick and Frederica. you don't want to be going down this road, sunshine. I think what you need to do

is you're just going to scoop this whole thing up walk over to Wilkinson to go, oh, excuse me, Mr Wilkinson, have you got any bins? It's like, I've got to put this giant steaming pile of garbage in one. What a stupid scenario this is that you've got yourself into. You're really playing with firing,

and a lot of drivers have now come out. I know Valdry Botas was the first person that came out and saying, why are they trying to control what we're saying, and you know, Max Verstappen has said this is a silly bit of rule setting that doesn't make any sense. Lewis Hamilton has come out and said and gone,

I'll say what I want when I want to say it. I don't really care what your rule is going to be. And I can't imagine that this is, you know, what this is just ridiculous. The worst part is they've almost kind of gone, oh, that hasn't worked. Can we do this instead? And they've tried to change the rule set a little bit

to make it more, I'm saying very cocking, you know, a little bit. sound more appropriate for certain people. You know, and it's not working. It's not working. Just get rid of it. Just backtrack big time, go, we made a mistake. We're sorry.

Free speech is important. And, you know, we put our foot in this. I don't think they get it right regardless. You just shouldn't be controlling this. You shouldn't be trying to stipulate what people can and can't say. And the fact they have released this list of, we think these are political or religious or, you know, incorrect things to say in these moments is so bad. It could be so offensive to so many people and you could so quickly turn so many fans of a sport

into people who are angry at your governance, your rule set. F1 is in a really positive place where it's almost at the forefront of sport now where a lot of the time it took a back seat. A lot of people are excited and interesting everyone that weren't. And now you're going to take away a lot of what it could stand for and the good it could do and a lot of the heroes that are within sport, both who are drivers and people that work within teams or within the press or whatever. You should expand on that and enjoy that, not try and clamp it down. Your only risk is that someone comes out with a comment that one nation goes, oh, we don't like what X said. We don't want to hold a race with you anymore. Well, you've got options.

And a lot of the time, if it's that bad, a lot of the time, no one else is going to agree with them anyway. way. So for me, you've walked down a very, very dodgy path, and I think that this has gone the wrong way for you entirely. I think this new premise that they've tried to stipulate just shows that they've made a mistake and they've tried to backtrack a bit and it isn't working. So get rid, fret in the bing, don't want. Goodbye. I know I've mentioned this before, but I really do love how if anyone or anything disagrees with Sam, they've always got the same accent. Here I am. Disagree with Sam.

That's how everyone talks. Oh, I've got a stupid opinion. Basically, you're a four-year-old, and you should shut up. Not all four-year-olds, so a lot of four-year-olds have great things to say. Very true. But your overall point is that the FIA should admit they're wrong. Yeah. You've clearly shown that it's wrong.

Just say you're wrong. That seems like something the FIA would do. I think we're all good on that front. Harry, what did you make of? the going into depth about what they mean. What are you doing? Fred and Frederica, as they now known, they've gone, oh, well, that didn't go down very well,

but don't worry, we'll make this better. And what they've done is made it way worse, way worse than it already was. This gas is a little part with fire. It's like when you're a kid and you do something, like you draw on something that you're not supposed to or something like that. And instead of,

you just make it worse by trying to cover it up with something else. And it's just way worse than it was to begin with. Yeah. I mean, anyone with a brain could look at what they've said and gone, that's just a bad idea. And you can't, it's almost as if they're,

they think they're like, you know, by letting the drive, be asked about political or religious statement. They're like, well, you know, that's what you wanted. And they're like, well, no, that's not what we wanted. God, this is so dumb. Freedom of speech is someone else allows it.

Yes, and in certain places. It's a weird definition of free. Quite freedom of speech, is it? Yes, yeah, just speech. Sometimes. I just, I don't know, their PR team or something in the FAA. It needs to give their head a wobble because I don't know how they can

just look at this and think, yeah, that's fine. That will get down really, really well. And it sounds right. Maybe Ben Suleham's doing the PR now. I mean, Chief Williams on it. Oh, yeah, of course he is. Bancel, man. Can I answer.

Yeah, I think F1 that this probably goes back to the the tension that has existed. or is existing between F-1, you know, the owners of F-1 and the FIA, because we already had, you know, Stefano Domenicali say, do what you want, guys? Because for F-1, they know that this is a bigger thing than the normal

than they can or should control, and I think they're aware of that, whereas the FIA don't seem to be aware of that, and are just lagging behind in that sense. So, yeah, it's just, I'd get so dumb. When I saw this, I was like, that's just dumb. Why have you done this? So just, just as Sam said, put it in the bin.

Oh, put it in the bin. Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible. For me, this is a case of the FIA wanting something to happen, but not quite realizing the extent they'll have to go in order to make it happen. It's like they had this intense. Like, this is the way it is now, but we want it to be like this. And they felt by saying that, that they didn't have to do any more.

And then they've realized as a result of all the drivers speaking out and the lack of clarity as to what they actually mean, it's like, no, you can't just say this is how it needs to be. You need to be way more specific about it. Otherwise, it's not going to work. So I think that's why they've done this. And really, it's hard to have too much sympathy for the FIA here because no one should understand being clear about rules more than the FIA.

That's literally F1. We've seen it so many times over the years, not relating to political debate, but relating to the actual rules of F1, where rules have been skirted and managed to, you know, they managed to get around rules these teams regularly because of the interpretation of,

of the wording. That's literally F1. I think 2009. Think Braun. They were able to win a championship because of the way they interpreted a rule. So really, where they're saying here, well, at least initially they're saying, can't have political and religious statements. Did they not think that it's probably going to need more than that in order to make it very clear as to what you can and can't say and when you can say it? So I think this was a necessary step that for whatever reason they just didn't foresee needing at the time that they made the initial statement.

And yes, there's still so many loopholes in this. So the FIA press conference, as an example, if you're asked by a journalist a question about something political or something religious, then you are entitled to give your opinion and say what you want. but if you're not directly asked, then you can't. I think that's pretty easy to get around. You just need to speak to one of like 600 politicians in the UK to figure out, but it doesn't matter what the question is, you can always spin it to whatever you want the answer to be. We see that on an hourly basis in the UK,

and I'm sure everywhere in the world, that's politics. You very easily get away with starting a question with, you know, you could start the question with, Ladies and gentlemen, a short view back to the past. And I'm sure by the end of it, if the driver wanted to, they'd be able to speak about whatever topic they want to. And who's going to be able to argue, well, that wasn't direct or that wasn't indirect? It's such a vague term that you can't really police it.

And there are so many vague, I said at the beginning, I'm not going to get into exactly what the FIA deemed to be political and religious. Reason being, this is one of them. This is one of the bullet points. what does it mean when they say political? They say any local, regional, national or international, political party, organization or group. Well, you're pretty well covered there, aren't you? That's pretty much anything you wanted to be.

And that's one of ten bullet points that they've put under what is political. They are essentially trying to cover themselves as much as they possibly can, where if they don't agree with something that a driver does, they can say, based on one of these ten bullet points, seemingly covers the entire world. They can say you're not allowed to do that based on this, where we say, oh, well, it covers anything that contains a vowel. Sorry, yeah, your statement contained a vowel.

You can't say that. I understand why they've done this. Whether it's helped or not, I don't really know. I can think of something that would help even further. Bin the whole thing. Ah, yes, the old Bing analogy. Yeah. Three bins. Three out of three.

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I have. So what I've got is six riddles about F-1 drivers. You have to tell me who the F-1 driver is. Okay. Let's go. Kick us off. a number from one down to six. I'll start with one,

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he shone, earning many a feat, and in LeMont, he took the win, making a great beat. With his speed and position, he left his mark. In the world of motorsports, a bright shining spark. From Toyota to BAR, he drove with style,

and his success and talent will always be in trial. Who is that? From Toyota to BAR, did they say? That might be the key of those two paragraphs. What's the land of Samba? Is it Brazil? I don't go on the land of Sambah. Samberys.

Oh, God, that will help because I could work out the two things of, you know, if they were Brazilian and drove for BAR. This is so hard. Ben. Do you want to pass? No, I'm not passing it. Samba, I'm going to go, Sambra is Brazilian. And I'm going to go, who drove for BIA who's Brazilian?

The police are coming. The police are coming. coming, everyone. Can you hear the police? Because I can. Sorry, guys. Is it Big Zonz? Big Zons, is correct. Lide of Samba, Big Zons! I'm doing a Samba dance.

Harry, number for you. Number six. Number six. Classic. From France, he came to make his mark in F1, with his skill and determination. He's Sean. Like, from Ferrari to Ligier, he drove with pride and his achievements in motorsport will always abide.

With his fearless spirit and competitive drive, he claimed podium finishes and fought to survive. With his win at the 1982 German Grand Prix, he left a lasting legacy in the annals of F1. That doesn't rhyme. Any idea who that was. was. 1982

German GP winner. And he drove for Ferrari and Ligier. And he's French. And he's French. Bonjour. I actually, I actually have no idea. Who drove for Ferrari

in the 80s? Oh, I guess it doesn't necessarily be the 80s. And was French. No, don't know. I'll pass. Did he A. Peroni. Did he A. Peroni? I was thinking Patrick Tambert.

but then I was like that incorrect. Well, there is another French driver that race for Ferrari in that time period, so wouldn't have been a bad guess. But I don't think you ever race Felicia. Okay, 1 and 6 have been taken. Sam, what number do you want next? Number two, please, Ben.

Number two. With over 20 years on track, he left a lasting impression. In the fast-paced world of F-1, he made a big admission. Oh, come on. From Jordan to Ferrari, he drove with grace and his wins and podiums put him in a special place.

With his Italian charm and driving skill, he left his competitors standing still. He claimed victory at the iconic circuit to spa and his career will forever be remembered as a happy chapter. These are getting worse. I will make one just quick statement to help you out, Sam. This was generated by chat GPT. It doesn't necessarily mean everything in that was correct.

If chat GPT's got it wrong, I haven't edited it. Put it that way. I'm going to go out of the limb and go, you're correct something in this isn't right. And I think that it's that they are Italian that isn't right. And I think it's Michael Schumacher. It's not correct That was one of the things that was right

He was Italian But as far as I'm aware He never claimed victory at the circuit to spa He only claimed pole position At Circuit to Spa Yeah Jean-Callo Physicca That was my other guess That's very annoying

God damn you chat GPT He's livid for 20 years Yeah That's another point in it He's not way around I love is he I guess they weren't being specific about F1 in that sense. Fair doose, fair doose. Still endurance, isn't he?

So still 1-0, Sam. Harry, back to you, 3, 4 or 5? 5, please. Number 5. From Germany, he came to show his racing might, with his skill and determination, he took flight. Oh, wow. From BMW to Toyota, he drove with grace,

and his performance is on track, earned him a place. With his calm demeanour and competitive drive, he claimed podium finishes to stay alive. From DTM to endurance racing, he proved his skill, and his legacy in motorsports will always stand still. That's not compliment, is it?

I know who this is. I've got this already. Sorry, BMW Toyota, what was the first line? From Germany, he came to show his racing might. The racing might is the big clue. Yes, that's the one. That's a huge one. Do you know for BMW and Toyota? And he's from Germany.

Wait, is all of that correct? I think so, yeah. I think it's who I think it is, it's correct. BMW and Toyota and they're German. Yeah, the BMW bits. It's not as you know it. Is it Timo Glock? It is Timo Glock, correct.

Yes. He didn't drive for BMW. I was thinking, did he... I'm not... Is it DTM he drove for BMW? Potentially. I'm not too sure on that. Okay.

But it is correct, nonetheless. One all. Two to go. Sam, number three, or number four? This is the best quiz ever, by the way. Thank you. I'll have number three, please, Riddle Master. I love how the best quiz have ever done wasn't done by me.

Number three. From France, he came to make his marking F1. Oh, again. We've been showing his skill and technical mind. He shone. The same three rhymes like every bloody poem. As one of the pioneers of turbo-powered cars, he paved the way for a new era of racing stars.

From Renault to Ligier, he drove with pride, and his achievements in F1 will always reside. With his first win at the 1979 French Grand Prix, he left a lasting legacy in motorsports lexicon. the rhyme. Lexercom! Why have you got bloody lexicon in there?

Why does GPT give up on the last line? I don't know. It was hard, I've run out of things to say. Just put a warning. And if they're French, and they're in the turbo era. Great, thanks for another French driver

that I won't have a pretty. announce. And that made me think that there are two drivers that come from that era. And I'm going to get the wrong one, but I have to say the name because, you know, is it Jabouille, Ben? Jean-Pierre Javui is correct. Oh, it is Jaboui. I thought it was going to be Arnui.

Yes. Jambu-I. Which leaves Harry with number four. Okay, number four, please. You can. With his fearless spirit and aggressive, style, he took the lead. In the world of F1, he made a name of speed.

From Salba to Toyota, he drove with Flair, and his performance on track were truly rare. Is that it? He drove for Salver and Toyota. Oh, there's more. There's a little bit more. With his never-say-di attitude, he fought to the end, and his overtakes and battles will always be remembered. from LeMont to Super Formula he showed his skill

and his place in motorsports will always be fulfilled who was that? There's nothing to go off he drove for Salbert and Toyota and then he did LeMont as well and Super Formula and Super Formula

but did it Harry this is ridiculous to help me did he drive for Toyota in LeMong for Lamont and he drove for Sauer in Yeah

No, he raced for Toyota in F1 Oh Salba and Toyota in F1 Oh, I know who it is Who drove for Salba And Sauba? Salba. And Toyota.

I can't think of Toyota drivers other than Ralph Schumacher. They're definitely more than that. I don't know. Is it? Yana Trilly. Mr. Kobayashi. Yes!

Oh! Yes, I want to go right. Of course. That's sneaky boy doing three races. I know. Only just, but he did kick off at Toyota. I almost always forget that as well. He did

a few races for Toyota. That does leave it. Sam 2, Harry won. Thank you, Chatsy. I love GPT. I got to say it. That quiz. That was great. Good stuff. Oh, man. Some of the answers.

I tried to get him to do one for Duke Dinsmore, but it didn't have enough information on him. Put it like the fake Wikipedia page and then do it. Yeah, should have done that. Right, that's going to do it for this episode then, Sam. You've managed to get a lot off your chest, a lot of anger has managed to go out into the ether, so you must be feeling better now.

Yeah, I mean, we're recording this on a Sunday morning. I'll have a great rest of the day. I'm going to be zen for the whole day. It's going to be delightful. I hope you enjoyed this Sunday recording, folks. You know, we're here every Sunday, race or no race now. So make sure you're always tuning and listening. And I'm going to tease it again.

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