The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Best of Late Braking 2025: Part 2

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the late-breaking F-1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Hello everyone. We're still here. Yeah, we're still here. We're still here. We're not recording these back to back, by the way.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We are recording them live. We were here on Christmas Eve. We were here just a few days ago. And we are spending, we're bringing in the new year by delivering this message. That's right. We're quite literally glued to the podcast, folks. And we will see in 2026 with microphone in hand, headphone over ears. Yes, that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And dawging a new age of Formula One with you, our favourite Liskers. Thanks for listening over 2026. Ben, they've got, oh, it's not 2026 shake at all. No, it's a prediction. They will be listening in 2026. But we have another best of. Who knew we had so much best to give? Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:01:09 We were trying to neatly put this all in one episode and realise with how many brilliant and funny things we say, you'd never be able to put all that in one episode. So we've got another one for you here. One last little bit of dose of late breaking before 2025 is out. Very much hope you enjoyed the year. And very much hope that you'll be with us as we go into 2026.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We've got one more best-of episode in a few days' time, but we are just one week out from our first real, proper, live episode of 2026. So I hope you enjoy the New Year celebrations. Whatever you're doing, you're going to have a tipple, Sam? I will have a tipple of something. Don't know what that will be.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Good, and I hope you enjoy your tipple of something, too. Happy New Year! Happy New Year's Day to you all. Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage and me Ben Hocking Harry, you're next to me, all right?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Hello, mate, yeah. Just a rare, rare occasion where we're in the same place. Oh, no. I should have invited Sam. Yeah. We couldn't all fit around this table. To be fair, you wouldn't have made the journey.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You'd have been sleeping out, an houry. The melatonin would have kicked in. Folks, I've had to take melatonin before the show. I might be asleep halfway in. And Harry's cable is green. Can I just say, you haven't had to take melatonin? No one's made you take melatonin. I've got to be awake at 4 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Has force-fed melatonin. Ian is shoving it down my throat. Out of context. There we go. Sometimes I don't need to work for this. I love it. I didn't write themselves. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Can you tell it's a non-race something? folks. Even though it's actually a Wednesday when we're recording this, we're all over the place this week without everyone. You keep revealing behind the scenes moments, huh? Yeah, I know, right? Where's the structure this week? We've covered off the race winner, Oscar Piastri. I mean, he's won plenty of races so far this year. We don't care about that. We've covered off Max Verstappen. He finished second. He's finished on the podium countless times in his career. We don't care about that because we only care about one thing. And that is the driver that finished third. For the first time in his career,
Starting point is 00:03:32 Harry, hit the music. We bring the bone. That's what we do. We bring the bone. We bring the boom to you. We bring the boom to everyone. We bring the bone. Your favorite father and son. So, Isaac Adjar managed to claim his first podium, or as Harry rightly said before the start of this episode, Isaac Hadjar claimed his first podium and his first ever race. So, well done, Isaac. Sam, what did you make of his race? So he was due to a P4 anyway without the Lando Norris retirement that I think was going to be just as impressive. But yeah, got a bit of an added bonus with that retirement and on the podium.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah, you got a little promotion there at the end. But this is one of those races where you can't give the credit to anywhere else. But Isaac, Isaac Hajar, Jamjar, Dor Hajar, I know what we're calling him. but the boy deserves all the praise in the world because this was entirely on him. He qualified there and he finished essentially there. You've got that Norris retirement, which elevates him. But he holds off for Claire.
Starting point is 00:04:37 He holds off Russell, Hamilton, behind. You know, those guys that are so experienced, all race winners, of course, behind him, he's in his first season. He's still a rookie. And whilst throughout the first half of the year, I gave him a lot of praise of kind of being maybe the rookie of the year so far,
Starting point is 00:04:51 he's going to hang and delivered in a racing balls car that does not deserve to be. there. But P4 in qualifying, P3 in the race, his race management was phenomenal. The tires never seem to wear off. There are a few instances where he managed to just dip inside the DRS of Max Verstappen, which is no mean feat. That's so difficult to do in the sister car. Now, we've all joked saying that maybe Max Verstappen could go on some win a race in that racing ball and maybe it's slightly easier to drive than the Red Bull. But that's Max Verstappen. Isick Hajar is what, 15 races into his F1 career. And this was a performance to be proud of. I'm
Starting point is 00:05:24 So glad he's picked up this podium in his first year. It just shows you what he has got to give Formula One. Because Red Bull, just slow down. Don't promote him before Monsa. Please let him have the rest of that season before you make any changes to how that team works. Savage that has got his first step on podium before Yuki Senoga has as well. But, yeah, an incredible performance entirely given to himself by himself, not by anyone else. Well done, Isaac Hajjad.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Again, we'll work that off air what we're actually going to call him from now on. But you deserve all of the flowers today, my friend. Driver of the day, it's sensational. Rizler, mate, turn your phone off. Turn your phone off. Because if you see a call from a certain doctor, you know what's going to, you know what he's going to want, all right? So, Dr. Dre.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I was thinking more Dr. Helmut Marco, but I hear Dr. Dre and Isaac Adjar are actually really close. So who knows? Harry, what did you make of Hadja? Yeah, super impressive from Hadjar. And, you know, like Piastri on Saturday, a lot of the hard work was done with that superb lap to get into P4 in the first place. But, yeah, once he was in the race, I fully expected the likes of Russell, LeCler, and co to get past him eventually, maybe not immediately. But his, you know, again, I know it was really difficult to overtake today, but his pace was really good.
Starting point is 00:06:48 and he was able to stay with pretty close to Vestappen for the majority of that race kept it clean there are a few sort of attempts from Charles LeClaire that he didn't crack under that pressure
Starting point is 00:07:01 and obviously then when Norris's engine or whatever went wrong with Norris's car when that happened he took full advantage I think after that point I was almost more impressed
Starting point is 00:07:10 because that's another safety car restart to do you've got some people behind you that really want of Hody in the form of Russell and go he didn't he didn't he didn't crack at all so uh yeah super impressive him from hadjar his very impressive first rookie year continues this will be the the uh the cherry on the on the cake but i think yeah as you said sam i don't think you can say he was lucky in this
Starting point is 00:07:37 because he got himself into that position by being so quick on the saturday and then having great pace today so yeah be careful uh be careful hadja because you're in real danger of being promoted to Red Bull. The only promotion that nobody wants. No, please don't. I don't know. Don't do it. Welcome back, everyone, to the final part of today's review of the Dutch GP, which of course means it's time to give out our moment of the race. And we do have some Discord submissions coming up very shortly. But before we do that, we'll each give our own. So, Sam, what was your moment of the race? Yes, so please, you came to me first so I can get it in there. Who is Charlotte Clair on the phone to? Where has he got a phone? Why is his sister?
Starting point is 00:08:17 thing on the Sang Joos alone for so long. Ferrari summed up in one photo was that wide shot of a cluel at the top of the sand dunes while the rest of the grid drive on past and his Ferrari is a single wreck on the side of the road. It's like a painting. So we'd like to paint that thing. I'll hang it on my wall. Yeah, for me, that is the moment of the race. It's just the cherry on top of this whole season for them. It just explains it beautifully. Sam has posed the question. Who was he talking to? Well, if you have the answer to that question, we'd like to hear from you. question of the week that you can find on Instagram and on X. So if you've got the answer where we don't, please do let us know.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Harry, your moment of the race. Quite a few contenders for this one. I had one from pretty early on, which was Franco Colopinto got a run on his teammate going down the main straight. Gassley doesn't even defend it. He just let, he's like, all right, all right, Franco. got softer ties, man. Come on through. And Franco still almost manages to run him off the road. You need both for them.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good stuff. That isn't my... The other one I had was just, yeah, sorry, Charlie Claire sat in the sand jeans, which is so bleak but funny at the same time. What I've gone for are the new McLaren hand signals that we saw during the race, because we had
Starting point is 00:09:45 when the rain was coming down, they had a shot of the McLaren pit wall. So Brown's put his hand out to check the rain. Then he's come back in and he's gone, this is only going to work for video people, sorry, but he's done that. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, like a little bit of rain. And then it pans to Andrea Stella and he puts
Starting point is 00:10:01 a thumbs up and then goes like this. This is how you operate your championship winning team. Just oh yeah, yeah. It's going on. I'm not talking about anything to do at the race at all. Yeah, yeah. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Anyway, so clever than us. Just put like a piano underneath and have Stella there. Like the Homes another hammer. That Homes another hammer thing. Playing the piano. Anyway, yeah, that was mine. It really got me. It was Zach Brown just like, just a little bit, just a little bit there.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Stella could definitely just do this himself if you want it to. No, no, he's got to play that air piano. I respect it. I wasn't liking Macarrah much before this race, but now a guy who plays an air piano, fair play. My moment of the race was Max Verstappen's move on Landon-Norris on lap one. I'm not sure if it's possible to make love to an overtake, but if it is, I'm going to find the way.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Gross. It was very good. Also, I know Ferrari just had a bad day, but the lifting coast for engine temps. Are we sure about that, Ferrari? And it's not for the other reasons that you've had to all year long. Lift and coast. Just put it in the big, put the whole car in the bits us.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Bits us. Okay, we can't leave it any longer. Sam is practically frothing at the mouth. He's almost out of his seat because we need to get on to the McLaren discussion. Oscar Piastri and Lando Norris. They both pit later than Max Verstappen. It's Lando Norris in the lead. Oscar Piastri in second.
Starting point is 00:11:47 After a discussion on Team Radio, it's decided that Piastri in second will stop first for new soft tires. Lando Norris comes in the lap after. Piastri stop, pretty much perfect. 1.9 seconds. Lando Norris's stop, not perfect. About four seconds slower,
Starting point is 00:12:05 a problem with the left front leads to Piastri getting an unintended undercut. Piastri is then asked over Team Radio, can you switch the positions? Piastri not entirely happy about that, but does agree to do so, meaning they finish second and third Norris ahead of Piastri. Sam, I guess there's a couple of different angles here. There's the decision to pit them that way around in the first place. There's the call from McLaren to make the switch, and then there's Piastri's decision to actually agree with it and go along with it.
Starting point is 00:12:35 What did you make of all of it? I hated every second of that interaction. It made me feel sick. this is not what I want from title rivals this is not what I want from our championship fight this is not how Formula One should be played out we were saying before we came on air bring me back Hamilton and Rosberg
Starting point is 00:12:55 throwing cats in each other's faces bring me back Catalonia where they throw each other into the wall I'm all about you know doing it for the team the team are winning the championship next race you're going to be champions in Baku so stop being nice and nice and holding each other's hands
Starting point is 00:13:12 throw each other off the bloody racetrack to win a championship. It's your dream. It is your lifelong dream to do this. And what are you doing? Oh, I want to make sure he gets the undercut on the clerer and he's a beaten bite. Why? Why, Norris? Why are you bothered?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Let him lose points to Lecler. Let him fight with a clerk. Not have a crush. You'll be back in a championship fight. Why are you doing that in the first place? If you arguably just stop first, you're probably about the wheel gun problem. You'd be off down the road. No issue whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Piastri gets that shout because you've so graciously given it to him, your title rival, but you're now 34 points behind. Why, I don't know, but then Piastri gets the perfect pit stop. It's four seconds clear of Lecler, proving that there was no threat whatsoever. And then McLaren screw you over. The wheelgun doesn't work. You lose how Piastri goes through. Is that Piastri's fault?
Starting point is 00:14:05 No. You let him have to stop. McLaren are the ones with the bad willgun. Oh, can we swap, please, please, can we swap? I'm really, oh, I'm really sad. Shut up, shut up, stupid sport. You should be trying to attack him. Get back over him, make the overtake.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Put a move on him. Is it right or wrong? Oh, can you move out of the way? No. Stop it, farcical, stupid papaya rules. And why Piastri is allowing it to happen? You've just been given a freebie. See you later.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Bye. more points for me, championship gone for you. I can't believe it. I cannot believe it. I've got a message on Twitter and fair enough, being like, please don't be hysterical about this. Do you know who I am? Thank goodness you stuck to that. This is a joke, an absolute joke. I hate this, McLaren. I hate it so much. It was embarrassing. It's one of the worst cause of seeing a championship fight from a spectator's point of view. Piastri is, I know, some kind of sake for allowing Matt to come back through because it blows my mind. championship rival will just let one come back through due to a team mistake that he had no
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Starting point is 00:16:42 No, you're not. Let's share that. Out, out, out, out. Our dear leader, Damakali will love all of you, all of you. You're playing into this. It's a paid-for event. Yeah, it's a spring weekend. Obviously, more points on offer.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Does that suit Vastappan? Well, yeah, that's what he needs, right? He's got a big gap to come from. What's interesting in the press at the moment is they keep linking Vastepen to beating Piastri at the front. They're already talking about Norris. obviously he's sitting second, but there's no mention of how Norris
Starting point is 00:17:10 can also beat Piascary. And McLaren also need to be aware of this. And if the staffman comes away here, winging the sprint race, winging the feature race, and let's say either one of those McLaren doesn't finish either one of those races. Okay, look, the yes is turn one can be so chaotic.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Best turn one in all the Formula One, that turn one. And you've got damn right. You've got down right. And it takes one person to miss their breaks, you know, Lance Stroh. And, you know, They might cause an upset.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's assuming he gets past the formation lap, all right? That's not a given. There's not a lot of gravel here for him to get stuck in one reversing. Fair point. That's the issue here. The staff wing's got nothing to lose. He can put all his cards on the table. He can throw out everything at this championship fight.
Starting point is 00:17:55 If he doesn't go his way, we all go, probably wasn't going to win it anyway. But if he does wing it, if he does come out on top, McLaren, who should be favourites here by a long way, this track suits McLaren, the tire wear can be high. It's so blimming hot here. I don't know how you survive. forget it is, you know, the rubber time, it's just constantly hot.
Starting point is 00:18:10 All the time. Yeah, we're not, those of British souls can't cope with it. We're just diverting away from F1 now. We are just going to talk about the way for the next 20 minutes. I want to use to invest in aircon. No, anyway, so yeah, the rubber is melting on these tyres and McLaren throughout the whole season is shown. Tireware is their thing.
Starting point is 00:18:27 The consistency they can bring on the tire is fantastic, and they can deal with the heat. Remember Austria, the way that Piastri sat right behind Norris for so long. It meant that, you know what, the heat doesn't affect the car, it doesn't overheat it. And you've seen with Ferrari, give me strengths, the way that they're having to likeo everywhere, the way the brakes are failing,
Starting point is 00:18:42 the way that they cannot put heat through the car, they're the differences in strengths here. McLaren have them all in spade. So they have to make sure they're prioritising those drivers. And you know what, it might come to the point where they go, sorry, Lando, a little bit too little too late. Max is catching. Max is right there.
Starting point is 00:18:59 One of our drivers is still leading this championship. Team Organs might have to come into play here. So any Norris fans out there, very sorry. currently he's in front in terms of piastri that might have to be the case to stave off the blooming tidal wave that is Vastappan say sobeats he did there was a lot of remorse in that sobeer
Starting point is 00:19:19 with a heavy heart sobeard sacrifice him being positively heckled I know two things about Max Vastappen number one he hates spring races number two he's very good at spring races so I'm interested
Starting point is 00:19:35 One of those two things is also true about me. Can you guess which one? You're amazing at sprint races. I am amazing at sprint races. Here's a little stat for you. It is a little stat for you. Max Verstappen has won 12 sprint races in his career. Everyone else combined has nine.
Starting point is 00:19:56 You think that's bad. Vestappen has more sprint wins than LeClaire has regular wins. Oh, happy birthday, shall. Now, Formula One could see major format changes as the sport looks to engage younger audiences with shorter attention spans, according to CEO, Stefano Domenicali. Ideas under discussion include adding more sprint events, altering their format, and even shortening Grand Prix. Domenicali claims most stakeholders, including drivers, and now in favour. Domenicali had this to say. There's a topic on the table concerning the format we'll use in the coming years,
Starting point is 00:20:38 starting with Sprint Weekends. We need to understand whether to increase them, how to increase them, and whether to use different formats. I have to say that aside from some older diehard fans, everyone wants Sprint Weekends. Promoters push for this format, and now the drivers are interested as well. I'm being a bit provocative,
Starting point is 00:20:58 but free practice appeals to super specialists, people who want to see more action prefer a sprint weekend. The direction is clear. I can guarantee that in a few years, there will be demand to have all weekends with the same format. I'm not saying we'll get to MotoGP, which has a sprint every round. That's two bigger step. And then regarding shorter races, he said,
Starting point is 00:21:19 we're seeing on many of our channels that highlights do very well. For those of us who grew up with the current format, everything is fine as is, but there's a large segment that only wants to see the key moments. There's some really interesting quotes in here, Harry Ead. Let's start with the shorter races point, and then we'll move on to sprints. We'll save that for later. Do you support Stefano Domenicali's thoughts on shorter races?
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'm really sorry, Kirstie, but that's the f***ing dumbish I've ever heard in my life. The doubles wear. The red. I okay there's so much to unpack it's the quote about the highlights package which gets me every time
Starting point is 00:22:07 that is how highlights work because they are a shortened version of the main thing if you were the highlights package of a short race there would be nothing it would just be nothing that's a spring race
Starting point is 00:22:20 that is a spring race I get you understand how that works Oh, Stephano. I know he's just, he's baiting us and I know it, and he's even admitted it. He said he's been provocative. Get some people going. Also, what drivers, as he's spoken to that are in favour of this?
Starting point is 00:22:42 The ones that are bored of their job? I don't know. Who's that, for example? I didn't include this in the quote, but according to Stefano Domenicali, when sprint races came in, 18 drivers were against sprints and two were in favour.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He now claims it's the other way round. You're just making it up. That's utter rubbish. Yeah, sure. It's completely changed the other way. Oh, my God. The, I mean, Alonzo's already made comments about this saying people don't say it's about a football match,
Starting point is 00:23:20 which is entirely, I know we shouldn't really. really be comparing to other sports all the time. But who's ever really, I've never heard massive arguments for this football match should be 45 minutes actually, just one half, we'll do. Because no one's making that argument. That's the point of the sport. It's the way it is. I know he's bringing it back to sprints and we'll get on to sprints, but we've seen
Starting point is 00:23:42 with sprints, a lot of the interest isn't there in terms of how a sprint plays out because you need the length of the race of a normal race to make it interesting. That's why sprints in our view, I think we're aligned, don't work because you're getting like the first third of a normal race and it doesn't play out that way. I hate this idea that we're trying to care. I don't know whether I believe it. I'm sure they obviously have data that they're looking into here.
Starting point is 00:24:12 But I don't think it's a big chunk of people that are so bored that they're not watching the entirety of a race. And if you are, grow up, okay? Just grow up and watch the race. If you, like, it's, that is just what Formula One is. It's not, it's not drive to survive. If that, I know that's hooked a lot of people and it's been great, but that's not what a Formula One race is.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And it should never be that way. It should not be a bite-sized version of this sport. Because I think you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll take something away from the DNA of F1. But I also think you'll end up with crap races if you make them shorter or sprint length all the time. We have like two sprints a weekend. Who's going to watch that? Not me. No, I will still.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I'm like Pierre Gazley in the situation. It's just I'm better to punish myself. I was so furious when I read this and I hate that it's it made me so mad but you're just making stuff up, Stefano and for no good reason. You're just changing things
Starting point is 00:25:16 for the sake of change when and it's annoying because Liberty Media have done such a good job in promoting this sport and making it into a behemoth that it's never ever been before. I'm just worried this sort of chatter is going to ruin it. And I really hope that's not the case. That was everything I hoped it was going to be. Sam, I don't know if you do believe this point of view, but if you are on the opposite side of this argument right now, it could be really funny. It could be. Oh my gosh. Could you imagine? I am. I'm not going to Sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You know when you hear a statement? And it's so wrong in so many ways. You don't actually know what part to start with that's incorrect. You can't get your head around much. What bit is wrong about it? All of it is wrong. And I have struggled on which bit I want to hone in on the most to call out Stefano Domenicali, Steve Sunday, who for the most part is a sensible, level-headed man.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And he chooses now to be provocative. Nobody knows what it means. That's what he's doing right now. I don't think he knows what that means. It's insulting for a start to a younger generation to assume that people who are under the age of, what is even into the demographic, he's labelled, what we'll say, 25 is a roundoff
Starting point is 00:26:34 because he hasn't given an actual number, have got short attention spans. That's insulting. The three of us had to sit down on watch Crawl Priests that I can tell you were far more boring than what you get now on a regular basis. and we're here, we're loving it. We were the weird kids at school that liked Formula One.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Everyone went, why do you like those cars that go around his circles? It's really boring. I got it. I understand why you found it boring. I loved it. But you know what? Everything has to be for everyone. You don't have to love everything that's putting it on your plate.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You're allowed to go, I don't want that, and move on with your life. And that seems to not be allowed anymore. You can't just say, I don't enjoy this. I'll let you enjoy it. I don't enjoy it. I don't enjoy, how long football has been 90 minutes, do you know how long it's been six 1866
Starting point is 00:27:21 90 minute matches that's ridiculous that is 160 years of the same time you think crowds are going boo I only play one half we're bored there might be some teams out there
Starting point is 00:27:38 that are hoping for that I don't know no I've been through some tiring times as a Newcastle fan but even then I wouldn't want the games to be shorter okay if you bring the link of these races down. You won't get your highlights packages because it will just be a highlights but there won't be any highlights. You'll just be watching a what? 40 minute race. Monza will only be about three seconds long. It'll be over about eight laps because if you're
Starting point is 00:28:00 going to make it that much shorter. You remove any strategy element. You remove so much of the ingenuity, the smartness, the brilliance, the DNA of what is Formula One. It's not just about, oh, cargo quick round track. That's not what just Formula One is about. It's a technical marvel. There's so much behind the scenes that goes on. If you boil it down to a one third of what we've got now, everything is a sprint. You're ruining it. You're ruining it because you've seen from sprints that you don't get this flat out action.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You don't get this wheel-to-wheel fighting. You're allowed it because of the rules anyway. You don't get the brilliance with strategy. You don't get the right choice in tyre. You don't get this converging where teams all end up on the same lap at the same time, but different strategies. You have to shout at your screen, who might come out on top. You will lose that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You will lose so much of the passion that is Formula One by taking away so much of it. You imagine you buy a ticket. How much is a Formula One ticket just for the race day? Hundreds and hundreds of pounds minimum for the cheapest one of the year. Yeah, you only get 40 minutes of track time. I'd be livid. I'll be like, I'll go watch a film.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I've got to watch the F1 film, which was two and a half hours long for 12 pounds at the cinema. But the actual race can't be more than an hour. It's farcical. There aren't many things in F1 that I've disagreed with more. This is up there. This is just silly. I keep remembering points as we go along.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It's a point about free practice, by the way. Look, F1 of, I don't think shot themselves in the foot here, but even 15 years ago, 20 years ago, let's say, free practices weren't really televised at all. Like, you didn't see it. It wasn't on mainstream television. And as we've, you know, gone through time, it has become more, more like BBC, or in the UK,
Starting point is 00:29:43 at least, BBC put it on like the red button, equivalent red button or eye player. And then when it's on to Sky, it's obviously all sessions are televised, which is great because there are nerds like us who love, who love the sport, I've loved the sport forever, who, I mean, I do not see and watch every practice session, but occasionally I have it on, it was on the background. I love a bit of, bit of F1 on a Friday, just, you know, in the background. there's like this this thought that instead of it being practice it has to be something entertaining at all times
Starting point is 00:30:19 when it doesn't need to be because that like I hate to keep going back to football it's like would you practice their football team's training ground practice session there might be some real diehard fans that wouldn't tune in and watch it that's great but not everyone's going to because that's not the point of watching in the F1 of the weekend, is it? Or watching the sport of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You tune in for the main event. So trying to make those things entertaining and, you know, the other bit shorter. Just it's the wrong approach. It's stupid. The definition of practice is a repeated exercise in or a performance of an activity or skill as to require and maintain a minimum proficiency in it. Is that meant to be fun? Is that meant to be exciting?
Starting point is 00:31:01 No. Let them get on with it. We'll end up with testing, preseason testing, being a race at this. right oh no no that's be the last straw that that that will be the last straw i'll be out of that that point qualified qualified straight out of the blogs come on the garage off you go podcast is just no hosts it's just tumbleweed on a mic oh i don't have too much more to say on the highlight side of thing in the shorter race because it is as stupid as both of you have outlined um we've already got shorter races they're called sprints and they suck um and you've established
Starting point is 00:31:37 why in that there's just, there's no strategy. I mean, a great, very, very recent example. The Italian GP that we had at the weekend, perfectly fine race, nothing wrong with it, but equally not a classic. I preferred last year's race. Last year's race featured some two-stop strategies. This year, it did not. You start to reduce down the time of these Grand Prix, and then suddenly the time lost in the pit lane for these two, or there I even say, three-stop races, what's the point in trying that sort of a strategy? You're never going to have the time to make that time back in the race on track. So you're going to be pushing everything back to a one-stop. Everything you've said about football is absolutely correct. I was trying to find any
Starting point is 00:32:22 examples of footballing people who have advocated for shorter matches or anything like that. There's a couple out there, including the former or the current, I think, Real Madrid president, but also the former Juventus chairman who suggested a subscription option for just the last 15 minutes of football games which I thought was absolutely hilariously awful and then I found out who the Uvendras chairman was and do some research on him
Starting point is 00:32:54 because he's very well linked to Ferrari and it all makes sense now. For a minute, I thought you were going to say it's to fire me to Wigkeli. No. Wow. Hello, I'd like a subscription to the last 10 laps of a race, please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I was like me just going on if you're not paid. Oh, no. You missed it the last 10 minutes. I was even going to advocate for longs of being longer, like more laps than any other grombrey, because it goes by so quick. I want to see more strategy and more racing. It's just so funny how wrong it is.
Starting point is 00:33:28 What would happen if Stefano Domeni Kelly was in charge of the World Endurance Championship? you'd have the one hour of LeMont. What did you do? The four minutes and 15 seconds of LeMont, I can't wait. 24 minutes of LeMong. Driving change every 30 seconds. Because that's a highlights package, folks. Do you think it just doesn't understand what highlights are?
Starting point is 00:33:49 You know what? That was my last question. My last point is, I've got it written down here, highlights. What the highlights come from? Does he know? God. Imagine if we raised Defiola DiMecali's career
Starting point is 00:34:05 only one year and then I said to him Stefano, have you enjoyed your career? What are the highlights? I barely started, didn't it? barely got going. Belangha chance to do anything successful. July, maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Right. Sprints. I, this might have got me even more unsurprisingly, it's sprint races. I've been warning you've all for years and Harry's outlined this point already. Domenicali and F. know exactly what they're doing in when they put sprints directly up against practice sessions.
Starting point is 00:34:40 They will never float ideas such as we can cut half a day of the F1 weekend and remove a practice session. They'll never say things like, I don't even know what else could be out there. But there are other solutions than just it is F1 racing versus F1 practice. session. Like, it doesn't have to be just that. But F1 want it to be that debate, because then you are asked the question, well, do you prefer cars practicing or cars competing? And any normal person is going to go, cars competing is better than cars practicing. That means you love sprints and you hate practice sessions. Good. We have the mandates go ahead with whatever change we want. I thought some of what he said, I've picked out one line in particular. I have to say that
Starting point is 00:35:29 Aside from some other die, sorry, from some older diehard fans, everybody wants sprint weekends. Everybody. I think that statement is like borderline disgusting. Like, that is pretty bad, I think. Is it deceptive? Is it a lie? Well. Is it a lot just making it up?
Starting point is 00:35:51 How have you got the numbers from? Oh, here we go. Is it a lie? Great question. So. Oh, I'm sorry, banks to slit the fuse. is about to cook. In 2021, F1 did a global fan survey in association with the motorsport network.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And over 167,000 people filled in this survey. So across the entire world, a good range of countries, like a lot of people, good sample size. 6.7% of respondents agreed that sprints improved the show. 6.7%. Now, I know Stefano Domanicali has said there's some old-timey F-1 fans who want to hold on to the past and that, but outside of that, he has said everyone wants sprint weekends. So what Domenicali is saying here is that in the space of four years, and I appreciate we have had a format change in sprints in that time as well, in four years, we've gone from 6.7% support to what, 95% plus if he's saying everyone. Wow, I mean, that is some turnaround in four years. I wish there
Starting point is 00:37:03 was a way to prove. Oh, hang on a minute. There is a way to prove it because you know that survey they did in 2021? They did another one this year. 2025. Again, in association with the motorsport network and over 100,000 people completed it across 186 countries, really good sample size. That report is 102 pages long and I dare you to download it because if you do a control F and you search for the word sprint, you will not find one mention of sprint races in that report. Now that is weird because everyone wants sprints when no one wanted them four years ago. Why are you not shouting that from the rooftop in your fan survey report? Is it because you didn't ask about sprints
Starting point is 00:37:53 because you know what would have happened or because you did ask about sprints and it came back just as negatively as last time. Unless you can prove me wrong, Stefano Domenicali, you are lying and you have the opportunity to embarrass me on this podcast by showing
Starting point is 00:38:08 me some evidence that makes me look like an idiot. I welcome you to do it. Please go ahead, prove me wrong. I'm an idiot for thinking this. But until then, I don't think you're true when you say, everyone wants sprints. I would really hate to be working in a shop and see Ben Hockey walking with a receipt in his hand. Because that man, that man ain't letting it go until he gets his refund. I have receipts.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Oh boy. I wasn't sure what the lead topic of this episode was going to be. But good old John Elkin has really helped me out here. John Elkin, of course, the Ferrari president. Because he has said, Lewis Hamilton, Charlotte Claire, need to talk less. This follows a return of just six points across the Brazilian GP weekend, the result of which is dropping to P4. in the Constructors' Championship.
Starting point is 00:39:22 This came on the same weekend, Ferrari's sports car operation won the World Endurance Championship in the same season. It triumphed at the LeMont 24 hours. Speaking at an event, Ferrari Chief Elkin called Brazil, a big disappointment. If we look at the Formula One Championship, we can say that on one hand, we have our mechanics who are basically winning the championship
Starting point is 00:39:42 with their performance and everything that has been done on the pit stops. If we look at our engineers, there's no doubt that the car has improved. If we look at the rest, it is not up to par. And surely we have drivers for whom it is important that they focus on driving and talk less because we still have important races ahead of us and getting second place is not impossible. Speaking of the World Endurance Championship Triumph,
Starting point is 00:40:06 he said, winning both as manufacturers and as drivers is a wonderful demonstration that when Ferrari is united, when everyone is together, great things can be achieved. Oh, boy, I do not know where to start on this one. Harry, do you know where to start on this one? No, I mean, no. What opportune moment for John Huckin to do this? I, many things to unpack here.
Starting point is 00:40:33 First of all, the driver's talking less. I think that's probably the thing that's annoyed to most people here, and I think quite rightly, why after the Brazilian GP, he decided to say that when, I don't think either of them have said anything bad about Ferrari this weekend. They've said other critical things this year, by the way, very fairly and quite right, too. But Brazil, I don't think they said a thing. So why that was an issue, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah, so I don't know why he's going for that. Lewis Hamilton is a different one. The honeymoon there with Ferrari is over, isn't it? At least between him and John Elkin, it seems. I think Hamilton loves the team he's at, but not sure he, he, appreciates John very much. But Charles LeClair, watch that man has had to go through. And the loyalty that he has shown to Ferrari since 2019,
Starting point is 00:41:31 he should be able to say whatever he likes. And the fact that he, I think he reigns it in most of the time. Me, I think John Elkin, you should count your luck stars on that one. Because LeClaire has every right to be kicking off every weekend. if it was Max Verstappen in that seat, they wouldn't know what had hit them. And I think Leclair is very restrained with what he says. Frustrations do boil over,
Starting point is 00:41:57 but for the most part, he is supremely loyal to Ferrari, and they're very lucky in that fact. And having a pop at him, stupid move. He's the only driver that's got you a podium this year, seven of them, I believe. And why are you having to go at saying he should talk less?
Starting point is 00:42:15 I don't know. Um, the mechanic, he's, John Oaken, yes, he's right on the mechanics winning the, they're winning the championship of pit stops. Sure. If that's a summary of Ferrari this year, that's a tragedy, but I guess it is. That's the possible. That's the only thing. Um, but I guess he's right for I have been good in pit stops this year just about. Um, the engineering team moving the car forward. Sure. Show me the evidence of that one. Is that in the room with us? Because I don't see it. It's not sure discovering you've got an illegal car when you ride it at its optimum ride height and then having to lift and coast of the rest of the year is improving the car. But whatever you say, John, it's the driver's talking, which is the problem, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then the comparison to obviously the WEC World Insurance Championship win on the same weekend, which is sort of led to this, I think, the comparison between the two teams of F1 and WEC, is absolute nonsense because I'm sure if F1 had a balance of performance like WET then Ferrari pretty would win
Starting point is 00:43:20 and Ferrari could pay the FIA in the same way that they pay the AOC to win in WEC. So just going to end the point there and move on. I'm out. You know what? They'd still find a way to mess it up in F1.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They'd still find a way. Sam, this has got the attention of plenty of people on the internet and elsewhere. What was your reaction to see in these comments? Oh, I can only assume that the quote you read out was actually just the prologue to John El King's new book, Delusion.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Because, quite frankly, what are you bloody on about, son? The car's improved. Everything is perfect in the world of John El King and Ferrari. You know, that meme of what the world would look like if X, you know, if LeCler hasn't spoken a word, cover cars everywhere and people, you know, having the perfect life.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Apparently, that's how he views it, that they would be the best team of all time as long as Lewis Hamilton and Charlotte Clare don't open their mouths. Also on this race weekend, Sherlock Clare, who put it in the top three in a car that you deserve to be there despite what you think your engine is doing,
Starting point is 00:44:24 they got taken out by another car that had absolutely nothing to do with him. He was drawn around the bloody Amazon rainforest to avoid what was going on in turn one, and you're still coming out there, giving it back chat. I need to wind it in, mate. Put your tongue back in your mouth,
Starting point is 00:44:38 shut up, enjoy bar rain, enjoy you've got some kind of success, going on. Stop striking them off. They're doing a great job. Stop getting a go, maybe I'll trade that in for a second place. They get fun. Let them have a good time. Let Bobby Kay enjoy himself. How very dare you. So, you're right. So, I think this is absolute puddle wash. That's got a word. But nonetheless, that's what it is. It's rubbish. It's a longer rubbish. I love that the first point in this is our pit stops are doing the good job. Like, that's the least consequential part of all of the things you've talked about.
Starting point is 00:45:11 The least. The pit stops could be five seconds long. You still would have been in the championship. Both cars, DNFed. You still would have been second in the championship because of the pit stops. Unfortunately, Lewis Hamilton can't winging a car that is rubbish. Charlotte Clare can't winging a car that's rubbish.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Freedacler, Lewis Hamilton's dreams are being crushed every day. And John Elkin thinks it's simply a case of saying less words means more horsepower. That's got a direct translation. You can't trade those in one. for the other. Yeah, absolutely rubbish. I'm amazed that he genuinely thinks this is a fair statement to make. When someone is speaking so much nonsense that it is both Taddle and Codswallop, that you somehow merge them together to get Tuddlewash, that's when you know someone is talking
Starting point is 00:45:57 absolute nonsense. It is very ironic that in a statement where he's suggesting talking less, it's the one delivering the quote that really needs to listen to his own advice. First of all, say. On a more positive note, it's very noble of him to take time out of his community service that he's doing at the moment for something relating to inheritance tax in Italy. So I appreciate that. And another knockout blow from the LB podcast. You know what? Don't worry about it, John. We all, you know, sometimes have one too many. We get home and we forget to declare one billion euros worth of assets. It happens, man. Don't worry about it. Happens to the best of us, doesn't it? You know, you've had a few.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So, mate. Honestly, it's never good when you don't know if something's more wrong or more stupid, but that's the situation we're in with this quote. He is right about the pit stops. I will grant him that. And I did look at this because you're right, Harry, they are leading the World Championship of Goodstops. But in fairness to them, 21 races so far this year,
Starting point is 00:47:03 every single Grand Prix, they've had at least one pit stop under 2.4 seconds. That is incredible consistency for a team we used to, I was going to say Lambass, but really just joke about a few years ago. So to turn that around is impressive, won't deny that. But the whole quote about engineers and no doubt that the car has improved. Now, maybe it's improved a little bit, but here's the issue. If you're in a 100 metre race and you've covered the first 10 metres in 10 seconds, have you improved?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yes. Have you made progress? Sure you have. Does that matter? Not one little bit because everyone else has already finished the race. It's all relative. Of course your car's improving as the year goes on. Everyone's car is improving just at a faster rate than what you've been able to. And the definition of standing still is being able to establish an issue at China, which if you remember, folks, was race two and still having the same lifts and coast issue with just a few rounds to go. nothing's been fixed whatsoever. And in terms of the drivers, I just,
Starting point is 00:48:11 what more can it, particularly on LeCler's side of the garage, what more can he do? Just use like the Mexican Grand Prix as an example recently where, okay, it was dubious as to how he got to second place after the first corner, but he had essentially like 70 laps to battle with Lando Norris, car versus car. And we saw what happened.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Norris won by 30 seconds. Are you seriously suggesting John Elkin that if LeCleur shut up a bit more and focused a bit more that he would have suddenly won that race? It's insanity. It's absolute insanity. The whole thing about unity is just...
Starting point is 00:48:50 Do you see LeCleur's response on this, by the way? Please advise me. I saw it on Twitter. It's probably across other social media channels as well, but he, as part of his post-Brazil post has put, it's clear that only unity can help us turn that this situation around in the last three races. He didn't put the asterix
Starting point is 00:49:09 of also maybe a good car. I don't know, but I thought that was a night. Famously, what makes Formula One cars go faster is Euget power. That's always been the winger of world championships. Yep, that's how it's done. Fortunately, I've got an easy
Starting point is 00:49:25 way to shut up, Shalukler. Give him a good car. He won't say anything again. Ever again. He won't say anything after that. Oh, boy. Are you worried if you're Fred Fassar, Sam? Yeah, no, I am worried for Fred Fassar. I only recently did we have to discuss
Starting point is 00:49:41 John Elking again wading into the comments, trying to defend Fred. You know, the fact they gave him a new contract. They said that the team are behind him, and we spoke about the whole managerial owner comments where if he goes out and says, we're behind our manager. They often get fired about a month later
Starting point is 00:49:58 if it doesn't go to plan. Well, second time, John Elkin decides to speak to the press directly, over Frank Berser's head, realistically, this is a great, and this shows that the more he speaks to the press, the more impatient, the more tired, the more frustrating he's getting, that he's having to put out statements himself. Well, I think Fred Berser is having to deal with
Starting point is 00:50:19 what was essentially a very difficult foundation to leap from in the first place. And it's a lot of cultural change, cultural shift that really needs to come together to ensure that the culture of wanting to wing and the physical action of winging are one and the same, because they are very far apart of Ferrari in Formula One right now. And you're building in good areas.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Yeah, your pit stops are good. Your drivers are good. The thing that they all need to operate on together, the car, is pants. So once that gets worked out, which I think Fred has been working on, hopefully we'll see that in 2026. Then I feel like it's fair to put him under pressure, but let him perform in a place where he's actually able to perform. But I do think, unfortunately, the moment the owner starts coming out and saying certain things,
Starting point is 00:51:02 the team boss is going to feel the heat. As you say, regarding that first comment he made a few weeks ago, we did discuss that. And you were bang on it, to be fair, Sam, because I wasn't quite as concerned as you were. And I'm much closer to your opinion now than I was then. Harry, does Fred Vassir have to be a bit concerned? I think so, yeah. I think naturally he will be concerned after these comments. I guess some of it's pointed at the drivers
Starting point is 00:51:34 and not necessarily his running of the team but all of it's pointed at you when you're the team principal but Ferrari have Ferrari this is all they've done since they became Ferrari basically they've always had the upper upper echelons of the management of Ferrari whether it's the the OG Enzo himself or Luca de Montesemolo
Starting point is 00:52:01 or now we've got John Elkin they've always tried to they've always tried to sway or influence what happens in the team and the only time that it's not happened is when you go back to the Jean-Tot era with Schumacher where he had Jean-Tot, Schumacher, Rory Byrne, Ross Braun
Starting point is 00:52:18 who formed a human shield of goodness or something to stop any of those sorts of comments coming in. They formed such a tight-knit group that it could never happen
Starting point is 00:52:30 and it's just never happened since. It didn't happen before that and it's never happened since. Weird that Ferrari haven't worked that one out
Starting point is 00:52:37 yet because when that did happen, they do big wins. They do lots of wins. And since then, not lots of wins again. So it's interesting that they're not, they're not figuring that out.
Starting point is 00:52:51 But yeah, if I was for episode, I'd be worried. I think a lot rides on, the 2026 car being good, I think as Sam said. If it's not good at the start of next year, then the pressure will start to ramp up.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I'm thinking like Stefano Domenicali, fearless leader, obviously, but at the time he was a Ferrari team principal, beginning of 2014, when that car was a hideous piece of junk, only took a couple of races and they replaced him in Marco Matiachi. And I sense if something like that happens again, It may be the end unfairly, potentially, but it might be the end of Fredfusser's reign. Yeah, this might sound like an exaggeration because it has been a horrible year for Ferrari by their expectations. In regards to lifting coast and no wins to this point, at least in Main Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:53:46 and Lewis Hamilton has struggled more than I think most expected him to. But I still think this statement that John Elkin has made might be the most concerning thing at Ferrari this year, because it is proof that that long-standing issue that Ferrari seemed to have of upper management getting involved with stupid comments telling the race team and team principal and drivers how to do their job, what to do, that issue just hasn't gone away. And I thought this era of Ferrari with Fred Vassar at the helm had a chance to sort of get closer to the model that you just described with Schumacher
Starting point is 00:54:20 that did lead to big wins. I thought we might be heading back to that. This comment and this quote, I don't think they have. I think they're just exactly where they've been for the last 15 years, nearly 20 years at this point. And I've got no faith after hearing this that it's going to turn around, which is a shame, particularly for any Ferrari fans out there. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just, it screams of everything that was wrong 10 years ago. If you show the Claire, how close are you to telling them to shove it? If it was anyone other than Charles LeCleur, probably two minutes away,
Starting point is 00:54:59 but it's LeCleur, it'll just, oh, you retweeted, didn't it? You were post from, was it, like, 2016, 2017, when he got his first run in a Ferrari in a test session, and he's just so happy that he's in a Ferrari. You kind of feel like that guy's still in there, and he's stopping him from breaking away, even if it's to his detriment. But, oh. Sam, a final comment on this one. As Harry mentioned earlier, the honeymoon era of Hamilton at Ferrari might well be over.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Would you concur with that? Yeah, honeymoon period is completely over between Lewis Hamilton and Ferrari. And I think he's in love with the dream. I think he's love with the Tofoti. I think he's love with wearing the red. I think the politics of Ferrari is once again eating up another driver. And it shows very quickly, no matter how big or how small. You know, whether your car lost signs in that car, having your first shot at a top job,
Starting point is 00:55:53 or your Lewis Hamilton deciding to chase your dream after winning seven titles it's not easy Ferrari is not easy and a lot of hurdles get thrown at you very quickly and there's some real issues
Starting point is 00:56:05 very deep, very deep within Ferrari that need to be resolved and I'm not sure Lewis Hamilton is necessarily going to resolve them in the space of nine months also side point John Elking has the most boring game out of all the team bosses at Ferrari
Starting point is 00:56:18 just rubbishing it. Monty Zemolo is way better yeah it's not a close yeah Sergio Marche yeah that's better as well so good yeah
Starting point is 00:56:28 so good just John Elkin John could be a math teacher couldn't they could be a math teacher couldn't they Thank you, everyone for your submissions. You flooded us with the amount you sent in.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Thank you. First of, we have Skittles. What is up, everybody? It is in the pressure time with your favorite candy. And the Skittles, I have to say, for Singapore GP under pressure, it is easily thought to be with Clarion. What are you doing? This buffoonery is going to end up fumbling them a championship to Max for Sabin.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And at this point, if it means him getting his fifth with Red Bull, like my boy said, that couldn't. And I'd honestly say it's probably worth it. But, you know, let's see how this race goes. I don't care what way it goes, right? McLaren wing, the snapping wing, whatever. But if McLaren just want to open the door enough, that the end of this season becomes a bit spicy.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Let's do this all a favour. I'm here for it. There's a reasonable chance, by the way, that McLaren win the Constructors' Championship this weekend. And if they do, congratulations to them. I'm just hoping they do it on a weekend where they're not McLaren-like. Just can we have an epic fight between the two drivers
Starting point is 00:57:53 until the flag, and they also win the Constructors' Championship and not a nonsense? But the fight over the bare minimum points they need to win the Constructors so then Max Verstappen close the gap. down in the drivers. Come on. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Next up, we have Inferno Jimapur. Hi, it's Inferno Jimapur here. It doesn't work as well as Jimola. I'm under pressure for this weekend are my cooling strategies so that don't get boiled alive in Singapore and also McLaren.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You just do not let Max in the fight. Cheers. I'm exciting for Jim to log us. I hope you stay cool, Jim. Next up is English Duck. Quite quickly breaking English duck here. My under pressure are the McLarence, because listen up, can you hear him?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. No. Oh, my God. It's inevitable. What I happen? The mix-up, I guess. You're like needed, jaws into the match for staffing song. There's something in that, but it's not by you, English, that's the best match of the run.
Starting point is 00:59:14 An attempt was made. Do do, do, do, do, do, do, do do do, do do do. Thank you for that. Next up we have a first time at Shnade F-15. I really hope I've said that right, so apologies if not, et cetera, et cetera. Hey guys, as I'm on. It's Schneid here from Mayo, Ireland. First time submitting. My under pressure for this week is Lewis Hamilton. Because so far this year, we have had a Nico Hulkemberg podium, an Issa Cajor podium, and a Carlos Science podium in a Williams. Lewis, what's the crack? This isn't what Ferrari got you for. So, like, my under pressure is Lewis Hamilton. I mean, what is the crack? We don't know if Ferrari will be good here this weekend,
Starting point is 01:00:02 but if they are, if it's not going to happen here for Lewis Hamilton, maybe Brazil, but like this is one of Hamilton's strong tracks. Yeah, he's quite good for out there, really. Yeah. Is County Mayo short for County Mayanese? Next up, we have Oliver Manbear pig.
Starting point is 01:00:24 What's the laybreakers? It's Oliver Manbearer. pig here and my under pressure for the week is the man himself Oliver Berman. I'm pretty sure that he's only two points away from a race ban. That's not great. And you know, in that hoss
Starting point is 01:00:38 I don't like those odds. No points drop off till November. Pressure's on, boy. I really enjoyed how expressive hold on. Olive, man bear pig was. I had to read that back because that makes no sense. He's got a good point when it comes to
Starting point is 01:00:54 Berman, like Singapore, that's an easy place to pick up a couple penalty points. It's something that doesn't go your way. Yeah, you can easily leave Singer-Saw. Who's next? Ben, you'll be pleased. Next up, we have the entire weather system. It's weather. Hello, late breakers.
Starting point is 01:01:14 First time submitting from the state of Kentucky. Minor pressure for this week is the entire team at Alpine. Cars been garbage. Franco Colopinso is fighting for his seat. Pierre Gasly hasn't finished the state. the top 15 in the last four races. And guess what? We're back in Singapore.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Don't get any funny ideas, Blavio. No. Slander! Slander! Hold on. Hold on. I've heard that we've got King Flavio on the other lie, Harry. We do.
Starting point is 01:01:41 What is the blade breakers? It's me. Everybody's favorite team principal executive, whatever the heck, I am King Flavio. And the first of this week is me, King Flavio. Oh, that's something about that sweet Singapore. Port Eard that makes me want to crash a car
Starting point is 01:01:56 right into the wall. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Hopefully if you own, Franco do well, that'd be awesome, K-bye. He did not defend himself.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah. King Fabio, it's going to shake here each week, that accent. I'm just going to say. Yeah, I'll get it.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You need to say Maurice more often, I think, just to get yourself into it. Mike Maurice. New York, Giants. Get a few phrases in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just a little flow of it.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It's like I do a, uh, you know. Exactly. All the Christopher Warren, Sam does every episode. For finest. For finest. You actually never hear it. It's just constant Christopher walking. He gets edited out.
Starting point is 01:02:40 These recordings are eight hours long. I'm thinking about eight monologues. You know. And Sam, what's your bull prediction? Well, you know. And they all start. with well, you know. This is the opposite, by the way, of what we were supposed to do,
Starting point is 01:03:05 because there are so many submissions. We've taken forever on this, so apologies, Kirstie. Gandalf, the goat is next. Hello, let's breakers. I'm going to vote here. The fuck of the stop and wants to remain the subject of every meme known to mankind. He needs to go full-on. You shall not pass on the McLarence.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Is it Gandalf the goat or David Gottenborough? And here we have. That's superb. Great. It's okay, though, because next we have hen bocking. It's like it in there! Is that it? Why is everything an animal?
Starting point is 01:04:07 I don't speak, Hen. Who's under pressure? You let the funky music do the time. I think, Henbock does say you kid. We'll play again. Bop-bock-bop-buk-buk-buk. Come on, man. I'm just too busy laughing. What have we created? Well, that's it for the animals, I think, isn't it, Harry?
Starting point is 01:04:35 Hang on, we might have one more. Scuderia donkeys here next. Underbrush the submission for this week, he's a Ferrari. And the any reason being Ferrari, being Ferrari, like a couple of years ago, when Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Michael and crashed into each year on,
Starting point is 01:04:51 a first corner. Don't do that, guys. Keep breaking late. I was waiting for it. Just expected at this point, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, good Lord. Next up we have another first time you submit it here.
Starting point is 01:05:08 It's Miquely's Carporetto. Which is... Hi, guys. First time submit it here, Miquely's Carboretto. Under pressure you're me. And this week's Singapore Grand Prix is Frankie School of Printer. Pull your finger out, lad.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Lawson's watching. Cheers. Put your finger out, lad. Lorson's watching. Great name. Oh, superb. That's it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Thank you, everyone. Yeah, massively appreciate all of your submissions. Next opportunity will be on Sunday when we ask for your moment of the race. And you are very welcome to submit if you are a human. I appreciate this is a bit of a broad. question for you, Harry, but we like to celebrate those that have come into F1 and achieve great things. What is Ricardo's legacy? Like, what is his lasting legacy in this sport? He will, I think he, he almost sits on his own because he, like, he's, he's a great
Starting point is 01:06:12 driver, successful driver, multiple race winner, etc. I think on his day. And in his Red Bulls, those days were more often than not he could be faster than anyone I think especially over a race I mean he was a good qualifier no doubt
Starting point is 01:06:29 he has some great pals Monaco 18 Monaco 16 and to be that quick around Monaco in itself is quite a feat but I think his legacy I'm not trying to diminish this
Starting point is 01:06:41 in any way but I think his legacy he was like the first drive to survive F1 driver and I think he always will be I had we spoken about this before but you know obviously the first year
Starting point is 01:06:53 if tried to survive Red Bull was like the top team because Byzans in Friday didn't want to do it and Ricardo I think was the star of that show hence why we
Starting point is 01:07:03 you know if you follow him so closely in in the following series so he'll not's not taking away from his great achievements as a driver but I think that is something to be noted that he
Starting point is 01:07:15 he will always have that and he is as much a brand than he is as much a brand than he is a racing driver. And perhaps that's what he realizes. But, you know, Sam, you mentioned his other ventures. I think, yeah, the Ricardo brand is strong. And there's so many fans of him,
Starting point is 01:07:31 even though he no longer races that will keep following him, whatever he does. So, I mean, look at the reaction the other day. I'm pretty sure Ford turned the comments off on their post before they even posted it. Like, I think because they knew that it was going to get people all riled up. Well, I should do that to your engagement rates, social media managers. Come on, that's a wing.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Ford's service can't take it before. This little, little company Ford, like, think about them. You know them. The upstarts in the old great America. Lucky youngsters, Ford. But yeah, so I think that should be noted that I think he will go, you know, he'll go down as that first sort of, that first, not the first mega star of a form, but you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:15 He sort of the first one who reached out beyond. the core base of F-1 fans. He felt quite Hollywood, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. Agreed. Yeah, I know he made appearances on, you know, US TV shows in a way that F-1 drivers haven't really ever done so before.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So, yeah, the drive-to-survive element of it is definitely part of his legacy. I think history deserves to be kind to Daniel Ricardo, and I think it will, because I know, and maybe unfairly he gets a little bit compared to the likes of his country, and he gets compared to Mark Weber and Oscar Piastri. And we know Piastri, for example, is already, in terms of wins, he's going to go miles past Daniel Riccardo, you would think, even this season.
Starting point is 01:08:58 But you look at what he was able to do in his career. He never had the car. Like, he never had the car. He won eight races. But what I'm always interested in is, like, how many races did your teammates win against you? He won eight races. He conceded five races. So he won more than his teammate beat him.
Starting point is 01:09:16 him. Same for pole positions as well. He took four pole positions in his career. I think you're right, he's probably a better racer than a qualifier. His teammates only ever got one pole position against him. That's a very good record against anyone. And then you look at who his teammates were. Like, there have only been six drivers in the history of F1 who have won at least four championships. Two of them were Daniel Ricardo's teammates. It's not an easy challenge that he had, but yet if you look at his record versus Vettel in that one season and against Vastappen across three years, he scored more points than them. And you can say, well, Vetter was past his prime and maybe Vestappen was before his prime, and I would agree with that. But
Starting point is 01:09:56 at least part of that interpretation is based on the way that Daniel Ricardo made them look with what he did on track. So I think history will be kind and deserves to be it. Well, I would say that's the end of the episode, but I reckon we've got time for something else. I reckon we've got time for the greatest segment in all of podcasting. It is the LB Question of the Week. Speed run. I thought we're doing that. Speed running question of the week, whatever's next.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We decided to focus this question of the week on Williams and the copious penalties that Carlos Sines got for speeding in the pit lane. There's only one thing faster than a Williams in a... in a pit lane. What is it? Susan Selling, saying Hong is to leak his browser history? Yep, the best one.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Knew that one was getting on. Shout out to the one that made last laugh the most, which was six point on Instagram, who just said, These nuts. Damn! So stupid. This one is not ever relating at all,
Starting point is 01:11:10 which is sometimes my favourite. This comes from Alex. Toby Fenderson, during the first annual Michael Scots Dunhamie Fitzgeratner, a celebrity, rabies, a way of this program found run raised for the cure.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You've got a full time as well. Great reference. Answer from Joey Otmar's pregnancy, birth, turnover ratio. That's got a whine-out. DJ Spin to win. And said, Harry, is in my ability to forget which numbers are left in a game,
Starting point is 01:11:42 which is fair, very fair. Yeah, you are good at that. As usual, the one that made me laugh the most is the one that doesn't really make any sense, which is from Isaiah, an al dente noodles slivering down my throat. Blimey. This isn't one at all,
Starting point is 01:12:03 but the phrase gestation period has never been put on an answer to our post to this many times ever. Yep D Davis says A jetto holiday Question mark Well, no, nothing beats one
Starting point is 01:12:21 Darling home Nothing beat for Jimmy holiday Do you load it on just for that answer You absolute Bonds I saw you get this album for something I was like
Starting point is 01:12:38 What has he got? lined up. Oh, goodness sake, I've fallen into his trap. Oh, I was really open you'd go there. Thank goodness. Did you have it lined up for you to say it just in case, though? Yeah, I was hoping I wouldn't have to get there, though. I was open it would be more organic than that. Oh, good. This one from Paul who said, the marshal was rained to avoid Lawson's car. Griffin said Leroy Jenkins in a salber I don't understand
Starting point is 01:13:11 Leroy Jenkins Well I guess when that move that he pulled in Brazil Hips quick Obey John Canoby says the attention span of Invertercom was the youth which is not very is pretty quick
Starting point is 01:13:32 that's pretty quick Ben Turnbull you don't know me very well at all sir how fast sang pretty shotgun I'll be here I will get the hiccups and I will blow very quickly if I'd chug a beer at home
Starting point is 01:13:43 Flaming Porsche said Crofty reminding us that interlagos means between two lakes at the start of every broadcast in Brazil I've got to deal with that I've got to do with that as for good
Starting point is 01:13:54 I didn't know that before that comment so I was doing with that I know when we saw some people on Twitter today talking about how they should just make Interlagos an oval and they've drawn on the map. I'm like, get Croftian
Starting point is 01:14:10 because he'll explain why you can't do that. There's some literal lakes there. So you can't be that. Last one from me is from Graham, which is Yuki's P-45. Oh. Oh, that's just No, you're not sharing that one
Starting point is 01:14:34 Well, I'll say it It just says me with the misses So there you go, that's a lovely It's alright, Ben also got a sex to life one I think it was Mike Who you said, Ben's sex life Sorry, Bing, you gave us this material Last year, it couldn't go to waste
Starting point is 01:14:50 I'm glad that's my lasting legacy It was quite a lot It was even one for you Sam as well There were quite a few to go around What have I done? No, just the same, comment. Oh, good to go that the impression that we bestow of the people are that we're all
Starting point is 01:15:04 very quick in a setting situation. And I can't think of a better way to end. Are we done for us? Yeah, slow-ead over it. Mr. Takes his time. Don't worry, hanging. I'll get my. The best and worst Harry Ede impression of all time.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I don't think Harry has ever said the line, don't worry, honey. Do you pictures me? It's that, what's he called, Brian on the old people's advert. Brian. That bloody old woman at the top of her, they got to spell him, Brian. This goes, it's Graham.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Graham. Oh, Graham, that's it, Graham. He's like, will you die, you stupid old woman? Go on, babe, yes. Yes. Graham. Shut up. I just don't know how we've got to.
Starting point is 01:16:17 The worst point is going to just come back down the stairs from the last trip. Graeme. Oh, my God's saying. Oh, man. When you go and die already is wild That's his wife I make as well Oh Chris
Starting point is 01:16:37 I'm so happy that Graeme's made it to the podcast I'm like your Hall of Fame make sure We haven't discussed how we're doing this outro Oh Oh this is disastrous as well Because Sam's not here for the next few episodes as well We've got a few of these to do Yeah
Starting point is 01:16:53 Oh yeah we do thank you everyone it's a great start let's write that down for the next one as well good place to start if anyone cares the England women's team have just won the
Starting point is 01:17:12 year us again have they yeah on penalties as well we never win penalties we do now we do now thank you everyone for listening I apologize for how this always ends terribly when there's no Sam here
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Starting point is 01:18:52 I remember keep breaking leg oh sorry kirstate

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