The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Best of LB 2024

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

With another year of LB coming to a close, we've put together some of our favourite discussions and funniest moments from the podcast this year. There were of course far too many to squeeze into one e...pisode, but we hope you enjoy this little selection of debates, laughs and silliness! FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League BUY our Merch EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the late-breaking F-1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. A killer episode today, but we fought between Christmas and New Year, would at least give you a best-of episode because 2024, Sam, it's been a bit of a wild ride for us. Best of Happy Good. Oh, I'm going to right wind up minute today.
Starting point is 00:00:45 You can't do that, boys. all night. That's ridiculous. Yeah, it's the best of episode where apparently we've had enough good segments in a year. Four. To make it one episode. Some double years with a podcast in four segments.
Starting point is 00:01:04 There you go. Ask your mind's back. You might enjoy some of it. Hopefully you laugh. And we'll be back in the new year for some brilliant content, I promise. Obviously, this has been pre-planned. What do you think are the best segments
Starting point is 00:01:16 that have made it in to this episode you're about to listen to. Collar pink, no, collar pink, yes. Yeah, I was needing the name of the second. What is it called? Colapinto or Frankele or Frank no. Oh, I like Collar Pink No,
Starting point is 00:01:31 Colour PIN, yes. That's not making it in then. What have we done that's good this year? Every great best of starts with that question. This is where we name all the things that aren't going to actually make it into the final show, but the Austin Live show, surely that's going to be in.
Starting point is 00:01:46 there, a bit of that. Oh, yeah. I love it. I love that. I'll do all of them as live shows now. Well, just a live radio show. I mean, to us, they are all live. We can do everything live.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We are so, we need to be edited. No, I need to be edited. This is proving that. Exactly. Exactly. Anything else you want to say to the good people? Or should we let them get back to their lives? Hope you're having a glorious betwixtmas time.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Twixmas is a bit of an ick for me Christmas time Merry for Twixmas It's between Christmas and New Year Petwis The good thing is The best of episode
Starting point is 00:02:37 Can't be worse than the intro for it So I hope you enjoy folks Gene Haas has since had a few comments About the hire of Ayokomatsu Obviously it was a decision whether to hire internally or look externally. Quite a few external candidates that they could have looked at.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Matea Bonotto, of course, currently a free agent. Yoss Capito, a free agent as well. I think Othmar Safnau was in the running, but he couldn't pay for childcare because who wants to look after nine kids. That's good stuff, isn't it? That's good banter, Ben. Well done. Yeah, congrats.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's poor. Real poor. Anyway, so Camaso has been with the team ever since Roman Groson moved from Lotus. to the team a number of years ago now, Gene Has had the following to say about the decision. I've been running Hass Automation for over 40 years now, bringing people in from the outside, it takes them time to learn six months to a year, and a lot of the time, you don't even like them. It's better to take people you know, and even if they are not the perfect fit, at least you know
Starting point is 00:03:43 what you're going to get. That's really worked out well, pretty well for us here at Hass Automation, so I'm really applying a lot of the building blocks that were here to the Formula one team. I really like to have people that I know who understand the day-to-day operations, understand the people, rather than bringing in a stranger who is going to stir everything up and create a mess. Sam, Gene Hasse is sat on the fence. It's the line. You might not even like him. Absolutely gets me. Are you hiring people to be your best friend, Gene? Oh, you need to hire my friends. I thought this was a hilarious interview and there's some logic behind it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 The bit that really got me was, you know, we've had serious success currently doing it this way at Haas. And, you know, we're talking about Formula One here. I don't care about the rest of the fight. The racing empire that Gene Haas has, empire is a strong word, really. Done all right. He's done all right. He's done.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Outside of Formula One, he's done right. Yeah. Inside Formula One. Rubbish. He's gone down this route of, I really like to talk to the people that know me and I refuse to talk to anyone else. And I can't say. It has gone well for Eugene, really.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Gunter's a nice man, right? We like him here at late breaking, and I'm sure if he were to come home to the podcast, we'd have a grand old time, maybe do like a cooking show. He's got more time now. He has got more time. Maybe he could be our roving reporter.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And we go over to Gunter Steiner. But he's not there. No, that's the joke. Like you used to be the Reverend reporter for... Let's not getting to that. No. That's weird content. So he's run down this route of comparing,
Starting point is 00:05:13 you know, the new hire, come up to, you know, the internal bill that he's brought up there, which I have respect. You know, promoting from within makes a lot of sense. And I'm sure in our own work, we've all talked about how, you know, oh, there's a job position they should promote from within. A lot of people work hard. It's nice to give people that chance.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But it feels like he's more promoting from within because he's going, I don't like anyone else. I can't take the risk on having someone who's got my friend in the organisation. So I know that I like that guy. I've got to promote him. As he mates. Fair play too, Gene, though. If you look at other organisations that have been through similar changes in
Starting point is 00:05:46 leadership over the recent years and Toto Wolf and Christian Horner are by far now the longest lasting team bosses that have been at one team. I saw the other day, Mike Crack is now the third longest standing team principal. That is ridiculous. Is it three seasons? He did, oh no, he's on two seasons, are they? Yeah, is it two and a half now at one? Yeah, 22 and 23. Point being, it's not very long. It's not ridiculous, right? So he's looking at this and going, am I seeing other teams have success by bringing in this almost merry-go-round at the moment of team bosses, Benotto's been mentioned. Obviously Schnafnau has also been brought up as an option,
Starting point is 00:06:20 childcare pending. And it's one of those things that you think of Alping, have you being successful with your absolute role call of managers, time after time, after time bringing someone new, have you seen that success? Ferrari, you keep changing your tact. You have had marketing-based managers. You have had Ferrari men down to the core.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You've had those who are focused around a certain department, not working. The only example that I feel where hiring from within is actually successful, of course is McLaren with Stella and that is currently working so he may be looking at that model and going there's security there there's someone that understands the brand that can rely on that person it's work for McLaren why don't I do it with my team here I remove the people person that is good to Steyner and I bring someone in who is tactical analytical Kamatsu from internal to make them the team leader I agree with you as well like the the most comedic line of this was
Starting point is 00:07:08 that he doesn't like people or doesn't like new people I feel like someone needs to tell him that to this. No exception to this. No exception. Everyone is new to a company at some point. Like, you cannot avoid that. It is unavoidable. Gunter Steiner, Kamatsu, they were new at one point. You can't just not update because you're not sure you're going to like the new person. You know what else left eventually? Yeah. Everyone is new at some point. Just be in with the janitor and he'll go, uh, since you and me, Keith, same janitor at my apartment. He's got lots of jobs. He'll go, you're the only one. person I like Keith.
Starting point is 00:07:46 They're going to go, we do need someone to build the car though, because I can't do that. I'm just very good at keeping the place clean. It's go, nah, you're the same bossing out, Keith. They're new. You can't have new. You can't have new people.
Starting point is 00:07:56 On that logic, it would still be Roman Grogon and Estabant Gutierrez. Surely, surely. Because the company wouldn't have been created based on that project because everyone who started there was new. It would just be his own family that's older than him because everyone that's younger than him are new to the planet.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Every time a new child appears. Don't like you. No. No. Hate you. I feel like that whole line, that black paragraph, it speaks more to who Gene Hasse is rather than the people he'd be bringing in. Like, just learn to play with others, Jean.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Just a grumpy old man that wants to be left alone. Oh. Gosh. So who's replaced, I mean, Kamatsu's obviously had a promotion. So I guess that means Benotto's going to be his number two then. No, because he's new to the company. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Everyone's getting a promotion. Everyone is stepping up and whoever was at the bottom beforehand, there is now just a void. And this will continue to happen. That's how it works at house. Charlotte Clare has won five Grand Prix, I think, with Ferrari since he joined there. He's had a highest finishing position in the table as second, but I think he's had a lower seventh or something like that as well,
Starting point is 00:09:13 which is quite a range when you're in a Ferrari. So the success is not consistent and it is not evident. If he finished second every single year he'd been at Ferrari, then you think, okay, one little step forward and we might be beating Red Bull, you might be winning those world championships. But that isn't the case. And Ferrari haven't won a title, of course, since 2007 with Kimmy Riking. So it's a lot of faith to put into a team
Starting point is 00:09:34 that have not had any real success for getting close to two decades now, which is unfathomable. We're nearly on their longest run without winning anything ever. Ben, you know that's that? question related to that. Yeah. What's going to happen first, Ferrari are going to win a championship or a driver's going to join the grid that was born after Ferrari won their last championship?
Starting point is 00:09:57 We're getting there, aren't we? I mean, we're not that far off now. The Astrid is only about six years away from that, isn't he? Yeah, and I don't know. I mean, Olly Beerman might well come into conversation at some point regarding this, but he's 2005, so that's absolutely ranted. That is vile. 2005?
Starting point is 00:10:15 2005. Oh no. How dare you? I've got moles older than you on one. But no, it's no surprise to me that he's sticking around with Ferrari. I think what LeCler has done here is probably quite clever. And again, I'm kind of picking up a nuance and there's no concrete examples here. But I think he's signed so early in the year because the power is with Charles LeCler.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I think he's used that power to negotiate a very favourable contract deal. Yes, it's several years, but I would not be shocked if he's gone, yeah, okay, I'll sign out before we've even driven the car, but only if you give me performance-related incentives. I can leave after certain performance things aren't met. I get to have this level of preference. I get this much money, of course, time year after year after year. I think it would allow him to do certain things in marketing and other projects
Starting point is 00:11:07 that he has very much got interested in doing. I think he's held all the cards and he's gone, my choices here realistically are. Sign with Ferrari in a very favourable deal for me. for my career, or do I go out in a PR army and a marketing stake externally? And I try to get myself into the secondary Red Bull seat, where I then enter into a war with Max Verstaping and a team that that man has built around him, brick by brick, from what looks like the age of a four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And I just think that Charlotte-Claher, probably makes the most sensible decision in signing on with Ferrari again in a very favourable manner. So I'm not shocked. I hope it works out for him. let's just hope that some degree of success actually comes his way because that poor boy deserves something. I think a lot of this. It depends how many, again, several seasons is a bit vague, and it depends how long that is exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But I think one of the most damning, not statistics, but will be statistics, is that if, you know, 24 and 25 go roughly as expected in terms of number of races in a season and obviously Charlotte-Clau doesn't have any injury or time off or anything like that, is very likely that within the first few races of the 2026 season, Shao LeClaire will become the second most experienced Ferrari driver of all time. And if he reaches that spot, and it's almost the comparison between the top two, one of them being Charles LeClair,
Starting point is 00:12:30 who Sam has already rightfully said, has five race wins to his name, and the other one being Michael Schumacher, who has more championships than my own wins. I know. That is a damning comparison. And you're right, there's nothing against Charles LeClair personally. It's on the team who haven't been able to deliver.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And even if you don't just look at the Schumacher comparison, if you compare him against other drivers who have spent similar lengths of time at the team, pretty much everyone around him has either won a championship or competed for a championship or has like double-digit race wins. And Leclair is not far off being the odd one out in that he has had comparatively,
Starting point is 00:13:13 a serious lack of success. And it's easy to forget that he's only got those five race wins. Bear in mind that his first race win came at the Belgian Grand Prix in 2019 and he won the very, he won back to back to start his winning career because he won the Italian Grand Prix the week or the race after. He's only had three race wins since the middle of September of 2019. That's pretty depressing, if you shall look, Claire. You're right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 They haven't been able to give him the, I'll give him the tools in order to succeed. And I'm not surprised either because I think the quote is an instant giveaway here because he doesn't say it's his goal to be world champion at Ferrari. He doesn't say it's his intention. He doesn't even say it's his ambition. He says it's his dream. And that is that down to its core, that's what the situation is.
Starting point is 00:14:06 It is his dream to win. There is nostalgia there. There is something from there is a childhood attachment. and rightfully so because I think all three of us probably hold it to a certain extent. I think it's rather telling his choice of words in that situation. Alphatari has officially become Visa Cash App RB for the 2020 season. Now we've got some interesting quotes about the actual team and their sort of expectations for this season and in the future
Starting point is 00:14:36 that we'll get to in a little bit, but we would be remiss for not starting. at least with the name itself. We knew something like this was coming, but it is now official. Sam, what do you make of this team name and the possibility that they might go by V-Carb? Other than actually reching over the microphone into everyone's ears.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I don't have words to describe how atrocious. I thought State Bake were taking the crown on this. Can I just say, boss ball's racing, we never knew how good we had it. The prospect of that now, I'm like, I'll take it. Racing balls. No one is happier than stake. No one is happier than stake right now. They're having a feast over there.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah. It's not a name either. It's just a series of sponsorships. There's no name there. At least, you know, when you look at some of the team names, you've got Ashton Martin cognizant something, something race, Aramco race it. At least after Martin's in it, right?
Starting point is 00:15:35 R.B, which I'm going to assume equates to Red Bull. But they're not allowed to have Red Bull in their name. They're not confirmed what it means? Just R.B. Just Rabe. Really bad. Yeah, really bad. Rambunctious.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Bottoms. That's what I call them. Figs are cash out, rambunctious bottoms. That's worse. No, it's not. I like the rambunctious bottoms. I think that sounds like a great band name. If you'd like to join my country band, that's our name.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This is atrocious. It is astonishingly bad. It's amazing that this many people, and you look at Red Bull's marketing, not just in Formula One, across their entire franchise is phenomenal. I'd argue it is the best marketing team in the world. And good God, they do everything brilliantly.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Every video I watch this Red Bull Relating is fantastic. Every product they make sells out. And then they come up with Visa Cash App R.B. Like, I saw a funny gif where Daniel Ricardo was driving down the road and a little cash machine popped out of his steering when we had to scan it to get another set of tyres. Brilliant. micro-transactions in a live Formula One race.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Oh my God. It's so bad. It's just the fact that it's all sponsorships really annoy me. They better come out with the absolute most banging livery of all time because then I'll forgive them. No. And only then. What do we call them?
Starting point is 00:16:58 What's the name? What's Crofti going to say? What's Crofti going to say? Bernardi, yeah. I think, I think, too or so. The amount of puns that Crofty is going to come up with. Feas are. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:17:10 crap app. I hope they got their visa to come into the country. Should we just rhyme all down and send them across? Yeah, okay, sure. Get them out the way now. Cropsey, all in one race, please.
Starting point is 00:17:24 In testing. Yeah, before I don't watch. Yeah. I just don't quite think it was the greatest set in all of Formula One podcasting. It is the The question of the week
Starting point is 00:17:44 Being bed having a Mexican standoff over here We are doing a We got out of the podcast It's dead air That's not one thing you can't have on a podcast It's dead air Oh my God Oh
Starting point is 00:18:14 Everyone's just like checking their volume now What's happened to the podcast I've lost signal Great I don't think it is the greatest segment in Formula One podcasting anymore because of that. I'm just kidding. This week's question of the week that, as always, we put out on Instagram and Twitter
Starting point is 00:18:34 was, what's the next drama going to be in the world of F1? And as always, you all knocked it out the part with hilarious answers. Sam, any of that stood out to you? Yeah, I'm going to get this one out the way nice and easy because it always makes the appearance now with our answers. And that is the MSC's tag upmost paternity test shows as negative. and which is very funny, but what made it even funnier
Starting point is 00:18:57 was Sergio's response to that, which was simply which one, which I thought was also fantastic. We all love a, Othma, there's multiple babies reference. There are so many on this list as well. One of them is Otmar has nine children in nine days,
Starting point is 00:19:12 which is... Good. Yeah, it's probably down the time frame. Not a month anymore, nine days. Well, Alping need the stuff, so he's doing his bit. my mum came out with gassy rungs out of sausages that would be world level drama
Starting point is 00:19:30 mum good job funny as always Abby Finn with Barry Manolo has secured the Mercedes seat for 2025 Come on Barry Mangala I'm so happy The Barry Malo joke is like an ongoing thing We didn't start it We didn't start it wasn't us
Starting point is 00:19:46 My fantasy team after him Why So good But I mean look it's funny enough Here's another one from Drew. Barry Mangalo got nine Alpine employees pregnant and Otmar is raising the Kigsboring only one month. This podcast is becoming ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Sure, yeah. I'm not sure about becoming. I think that's happened by now. Sorry, Sergio gave his own one here, which is that Gunther is under investigation for leaking harsh secrets to Alpine. Spygate 2.0. I can believe that.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, I mean, they really have gone that way, haven't they? We've got on Twitter. Possibly my favourite answer was from Chris Taylor who said, Sam moves house without taking Ian the cat, and the late breaking podcast goes into anarchy. The FIA and F1 both investigate, and after a long debate, hand out a five-second penalty. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I hope she's okay. She gets not fend off well on her own. This one is in depth. It's from Orange Beaking. A local bakery in Paris claims to have made a baguette faster than the Albin. Faster than the Albin. car. These claims turned out to be correct. And Alpine hires the chunky French baker
Starting point is 00:20:59 as their postman to more quickly deliver out the bad news to the French. The drive to survive episode will be called Postman Fat. That is quite the imagination from you, sir. And I love it. I don't think it would be topped. I was reading it earlier. I was just in stitches for five minutes. The word chunky just said me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I don't know. Areas, don't focus out, is that excited? Oh, boy. This is a classic. The Smurfs will invade Alpine. That's a great one. That's a great one. Straight under that one,
Starting point is 00:21:40 Milsie said that Great Britain will host a street race around the roads of Claxton with the podium being on the pier. Obviously. Obviously. It's the greatest place in the UK. One more from me was,
Starting point is 00:21:50 without explanation, going with Lawrence Stroll replaces Lanchstrol. I love it. Sure. Some of you took that very seriously and came up with what could be a very real drama and some of you came up with postman fat as an example.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's so good. I love the different spectrums of our listeners. All of you are brilliant, regardless of serious or silly. Thank you for always being involved with the question of the week. It makes us cackle every single time. Overthinking that we missed science a little bit today. Obviously, he's just resched to bearman. Of course, he's a rookie.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He's had to jump in. He did a fantastic job. But I do think that science has felt very competitive. You know, coming out of Bahrain, he looked good in the first at FP2 sessions that he was in. I'm not saying he could have channelled for Stappen, but he really would have spiced up that fight right at the front of the field, I think, because he seems like a bit of momentum.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Might have been good for the race tomorrow. Yeah, that's a fair shout. I got a goddess, I know we mentioned signs already in terms of get better soon. But everyone drives a hardcore because he did. they all of Thursday, sorry, all of Thursday practice with a supposed stomach bug and then they were like,
Starting point is 00:23:19 oh no, man, actually your appendix is going to burst. You need surgery, son. Oh, no wonder if I was so rubbish. Imagine that you've got a ticking time bomb in your stomach. I'm just going to do two hours of driving at 200 miles an hour around a trap though first. I'll get to that.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, I'll be fine. I'll have it later. What cool guy. That handsome. God damn it. God damn you. Hack some cool, man. Yeah, well, there you go. His appendix is weak, so he's got to be a tech faster.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Weight saving. Weight saving. Carbon fibre appendix. Go paint. The LP drivers turn up. The LP drivers turn up. Oh, we can't. Just a pair of hands.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Anything to go past that. No race suits anymore. Too much weight. O'Con looks like Mike Rosowski. Just like eye with the hangs and feet. He's come out and said a lot of things about the car. One of those being that, you know, they didn't get the testing data accurately interpreted onto the car
Starting point is 00:24:41 and that the simulator wasn't providing accurate data. What do you think about that? That is ridiculous. Because I think if I was doing my day job and I spent two, years interpreting my job wrong, I'd be fired immediately. It would be like, what are you doing? You get paid a lot of money to do this. Why can't you read the numbers that you're qualified to read? Nick Schumack has been sent to the shadow realm. Sorry, mate, Mr. Contesting driver, but if you were actually giving any relay of feeling in numbers, you've done that wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, but maybe he was doing everything right, but what they were telling him to do was the completely one thing. He's like, all those late nights Mick's like, I swear to God. Did you see during the Jeddah GP,
Starting point is 00:25:31 um, the McLaren drove off into the discards in sector one, Manda Norris in front of Lewis. It's like, to Mick Schumacher and he's just literally
Starting point is 00:25:40 shaking as ever. Yeah, he's like, oh God, I'm back in the sim tomorrow, aren't I? Yeah, in you go again, Mick.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Um, and we're not going to do any analytics. It's pure torture. Anyway, yeah, so this is Bathens. me that they've had two years of development where they've had these new, you know, regulations
Starting point is 00:25:57 have come out, and Mercedes of all teams who are engineering giants of the world, they are really good at making cars, right? It is something that they have done quite well if you haven't noticed on your roads. They make cars brilliantly. So the fact that they've struggled to interpret basic data for so long is absolutely baffled. Equally, if I was Toto Wolf, I don't know why he's walking around acting like a kid on Christmas, having a great time clicking his heels as he walks down down the road, be annoyed, put this into action, make changes and go, right, we know the problem now, we've realised that some Muppet back at the factory is reading the data wrong, they're gone, we're going to read the data correctly now, and we're going to come back with a whole new
Starting point is 00:26:37 concept and it makes sense. That's me with like a light bulb and I go, oh, good, we know what we're doing now. Thank goodness for that. But yeah, okay, this Toto Wolf, for some reason, his PR is very, very strange. But I like to think that they've actually. actually cracked it and we might start seeing some progress now. So I guess that is something to be happy about. What did you make of Toto Wolfe's, I don't know, confidence, if you can call it that, Harry? I think his new mindset is that they're going to be doing apology email rather than a letter. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Save the planet. Save the trees. Toto Wolves. Send it to Michael Massey first. Oh. Oh. Oh, God. There are the days, weren't they?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Michael, I sent you an email. I'm wringing a race to Toto. big Jonathan Wheatley. Yeah, look, this, it's an odd one. In a way, I don't necessarily disagree because, yeah, they've spent the last years it's been frustrating, being frustrated about it. They've got the talent in the team. Being frustrated about it isn't going to necessarily make things better.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But you're right, Sam, in that it's a bit of a... He was so not optimistic all the time when they're winning. And now he's like, oh, well, not over. He's not saying oh well, but it's just, it's a different, it's a different type of thing. Thank you, Papua. Oh, no. Or Arnold Schwarzen-A-Ber. I've got the pumping nickel and I've got the data.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Oh, God's sake. Stop losing the pumpernickel on the data, please. Stop dropping my crumbs on the data. Nick, stop dropping pomp and nickel in the sim. The seat is full of your cramps. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Papa Mickle. Papa Mickle, right.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That's the next Photoshop edit done. Yes. If you haven't already seen Esteban Wuzowski, the same concocting of the day. I'm so sorry. Welcome. Good Lord. Papa Mickle.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I've taken so long to get there. It's been a while, I think they mentioned on commentary, Sam, 103 races or something like that with McLaren now. So he's in three figures and after so many missed opportunities, it's finally there for him. It was never an if it's going to happen. It was always going to be a when will it happen. And it has finally happened. McClaren fans, I'm sure that last 20 lap period for you was horrible. Even as just a broader F1 fan who doesn't support a driver, I was tense.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I was sat there taking deep breaths, having to kind of almost coach Lando through it from the sofa. I know he can hear me, so it's definitely worth doing. And yeah, every single lap felt like an eternity. I'm sure for you guys, with Big Lando fans,
Starting point is 00:29:36 a McLaren fan, you must have been sat there really going, oh, is this going to happen? Is something bad going to go wrong? And it didn't. He's got across the line. He's a lovely tribute to his mum, his dad. It was for his grandma,
Starting point is 00:29:50 which is so sweet. He gave that credit back to the team. and Fairplayed to McLaren who brought 10, 10 performance upgrades to Miami. We weren't sure whether this might be the right track to do so, but it's paid off for them and it's culminated in his first ever race victory. And the first victory for McLaren in a full-length race since Ricardo won in Monsa, right? A good couple of years ago now. So it's a fantastic return to form.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And I think it was Brundell that said this, that last time they're in Miami as a team, They finished over a minute behind the lead. We come back a year later and they have won it. Well done Lando. Well done McLaren. British biases in full swing tonight, guys. Oh, the Brits.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No? Oh, God. No, no already. A UTB chant from Harry Ead. Yeah. Back to bed, grandpa. Back to bed. Take your pills.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. Excellent, excellent race all round. And not just because they're British driver on it. I actually quite enjoyed that one. and I don't want to enjoy a race in Miami, but I did. I love how it went against every fibre of your being. I enjoyed it, but you did in the end. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I don't like to enjoy races that aren't the UK, obviously, because of Brexit. Carrie's got a citizen flag, every round every track. This is maybe a bold claim here. I think Lando Norris is winning this without the safety car. I think he's in the fight. I really think he's in the fight. that fight. When Vestappen Pits, he comes out, he's
Starting point is 00:31:24 about 10 seconds behind Norris and then it doesn't really move from 10 seconds. And just before the safety car, it'd actually gone up to like 11 and a half seconds. So Norris is now pulling away on old mediums versus old hard, new hards for Vestappen. And I was thinking, this is game on here. Then obviously
Starting point is 00:31:40 Kevin Magerson and Logan Sargent were playing silly games and the safety yeah, silly buggers. And the safety car came out and it obviously then was game on. But yeah, I genuine, I think the pace Norris had, I think he's in, like you say, he's in fact, I think he could have won it anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So it was, it was, I wasn't, I was confident that he was just going to run away in the, in the, in the style that he did after the safety car because it's, you know, he's got Max for stopping behind him. But I was fairly confident if he could do, do the restart, then he was in with a very good shout of holding on. And it wasn't just, holding on.
Starting point is 00:32:21 He just had the legs on. This happened easily for the remainder of the race and just built that gap up, built that gap up lap by lap. It was very, very impressive. I know, I'm sure McLaren fans were worried, as you said, Sam, for those last 20 laps or so. But Norris just looked like he could have done that all afternoon.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Did not look concerned, didn't look ragged. And even on the last lap, he was still flying around. round. It looked like he was not, you know, not he was taking risks, but he was just in the groove, like, could have just kept going. So it was, it was very assured. And yeah, no, we, not there have been question marks over Norris, but there been a few occasions where opportunities have arrived arisen for him to take a winner or a pole position and, and there's been a mistake or a bad, bad call made, but not today. That any, any qualms about that are certainly gone. So, because he was, yeah, he was just, it looked very Vestappanesque, which is pretty the
Starting point is 00:33:20 biggest compliment I can give him. I think that's fair. And similar to the point you were making there, obviously the moment of Lando Norris winning was pretty epic. And that's not any, that's not British Bias. That's just a new winner. Winning in F1 is an epic moment for whoever achieves it. I wasn't going to say this, but I am going to say this.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Thank God it wasn't a sprint, man. Thank God he came his first win like this. Because I don't know. It just wouldn't have been a. epic so that was I um I made the comment a few maybe a couple of months ago now that you know when you hear race wings now and there's no disrespect to max Vastappen he's a legend of the game at this point and he's superb at what he does but when someone wins that often over and over again you know the whole you know that was simply lovely we had a lovely time thanks all you kind of get a bit like
Starting point is 00:34:10 all right yeah what does it mean but when you see someone win their first grand prix especially after what Lando's gone through with how many you know near misses he's had and that elation and the crying and the crowd surfing with his team and the screaming through the garage. You go, the Lando, Lando. That was honestly, if I or not, you've got a smile and you saw that other drivers coming up to him.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Max was grinning here to wear. You saw Russell, Ricardo and others are longsoe coming over, slapping him on the back, giving him a hug. It was a real wing of a day for Formula One today. I think the most important thing was this wasn't a, and as you made this point earlier, Sam, this wasn't a old max for Stappen retired, or it was, like Singapore last year,
Starting point is 00:34:57 I know that it was a normal dry race, but the Red Bull had zero pace that weekend. Like it was just a weird anomaly. No retirement self-front. Exactly. This was just a race where Red Bull were outpaced, Verstappen was outpaced, which we've not seen for, but I don't know,
Starting point is 00:35:15 since 2022, maybe, or, certainly a Red Bull Yeah, Brazil 22 That's probably as far back as you need to go So it's been a while And that's the sort of race F1 needed And also it's been a bonus
Starting point is 00:35:31 For the fact that we've got a first time race winner Out of it so yeah Let's go to some of the Discord submissions And I'll hand over to Mr. Harry Ead First up is the shortest one And obviously that is from Skyler Lando Norris one To be fair
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's been a while And she's done a lot of Lando Norris submissions I'm glad that she's finally at a moment Oh Skyla let's love me to have you back I'm glad you're happy Next up is buggers Ladies and gentlemen Boys and girls children of all ages
Starting point is 00:36:08 Is the McLaren C E oh yeah And the moment of the race I mean, let alone, Lando getting his first win has to be Oscar's engineer saying, please don't bring out a safety card. Please go.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yeah. Please, Oscar. Please don't do it. Bungers was very emotional, bless him. That's also lovely to see. Next up is L.J.A. Not so again, LJL. This is Lance.
Starting point is 00:36:46 friend of the podcast and training a long-time listener first-time submission my moment of the race aside from Lando finally driving brilliantly and getting his first victory, congratsalando, was that sweet double pass on Piastri by Perez and Hamilton where they split
Starting point is 00:37:02 them going down the back stretch. Great racing boys. Great race today. Unexpected winner. Love it. Keep doing a great job on the podcast and keep breaking late. Thank you for your first submission. Love that. Next up is Charlemagne Fierre. Great guy.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Charlie, a long time listener, first time smitter. My moment of the race for the Miami GP was Carlos Seines crying about the Astrid. Just get over it, boy. Just get over it, boy.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And then also Max first happened, basically always complaining about Andrea Nui's car. It's just, every single race. It just drives like shit. So, yeah, the moment of the race. First time. Submission, first time bleep.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Oh, on the bleep. Kirsty's not going to bed until four. Just for everyone's aware, as we record it, it's 20 plus make out here. Also, I just like to say, Kirsty chose these, so that's made word for yourself there. That is a bad point.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It's my own fault. All right, next half is Bristol, Liam. Yeah, yeah, Landon Ores has done it and all that stuff, right? Evan Magnuson, you are a convicted terrorist. They're coming for you. The FBI and all.
Starting point is 00:38:16 all the American police stuff, they're coming for you. Buzzler Justin Lando's got a plaster on his nose, which is quite funny. American police stuff. Yes. Have you heard of the APS? No, I hadn't.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's on me. There were so many of them there because of Kevin Magnus. Illegiate, man. Goodness me. Next up is Marine. Hello, boys. This is Marine trying to, or I'm going to
Starting point is 00:38:47 in my moment of the race and for me it has to be Max hitting the ballard because I was at a concert and the first thing I saw was him hitting that thing so it made me laugh
Starting point is 00:38:57 and yeah Congress to lando but that ballad really was my MVP greetings from Germany love you bye oh yes I really like
Starting point is 00:39:06 when Max hit the ballard I was like that is something I would do every time I go round a race track on F1 the race game yeah yeah definitely next up is
Starting point is 00:39:17 Wechard F-1 another Oh Hey guys First time submitter here Calling from a terrible place I hate my life It's the worst But my moment of the race
Starting point is 00:39:27 Was Logan Sargent Getting to go home early 18 minutes down the road And he was able to curl up In his lightning queen bed Enjoy some of his mama's milk You know Fresh
Starting point is 00:39:37 I mean I always thought milk Should be enjoyed At 37 degrees Celsius Anyway good for him Happy for him Cachow. Goodness me. I hope you're okay, mate.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Oh, no, no. Trying to be sympathetic about you hating your life from laughing at mommy's milk. It's just like it should be enjoyed. Oh, no. Goodness me. Gosh. Oh, thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Alpine. For the sake. Right. Okay. Now, they said it's by mutual agreement, which, quite frankly, is horse manure. That is rubbish.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I do not believe that. And this is... Oh, there's so many things here. This, again, if this is off the back of Monaco, which it reeks of it being off the back of Monaco then that is the most ridiculous decision I've ever heard in the life
Starting point is 00:41:18 but Alpine again you have to keep I'm not going to say stop firing people hire people or keep people I don't know how I was to say this people good people are good for team maybe it needs to be a Kevin Malone approach
Starting point is 00:41:38 where fewer words do tricks I'm willing to try anything with them at this point. What people do F1 team. Exactly. My actual point here is Alpine have got so many problems at the moment, one of them being people or lack of them. But, you know, the struggle within the team to get anywhere.
Starting point is 00:42:01 The car's terrible most of the time in the moment. The one thing that wasn't wrong was their driver line up. So what have they done, they've decided to get rid of one. because that's the logical conclusion. And from what I've read a couple of times, their other driver, i.e. Pierre Gazley, I don't think he wants to stay there either because, quite frankly, why would you?
Starting point is 00:42:23 So at this rate, they could end up with nothing. The one thing that I've, well, not forgot, but it got reminded when obviously this kicked off a Monday, do you remember that time, not that long ago, when Alpine, this is literally two years ago, Alpine had a problem where they had to choose between three drivers for two seats. Those three drivers being Espan Okon,
Starting point is 00:42:44 Oscar Piastri and Fernando Alonzo. They've fumbled the lot of them. They've all gone. No disrespect to Jack Dewan. Yeah. So the bag is fumbled. The lot of them have now gone out the door, which is absolute lunacy, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:43:06 How can you have a two-time world champion, obviously, in Alonzo? Oscar Piastri, who might be one of the brightest young talents to come up into Eiffon for a while, and Espan Okon, who is a bloody decent driver, and they've all gone. They're all going to, by the end of this year,
Starting point is 00:43:23 they'll have all gone. And it's all your own doing, Alpine, you're a bunch of Muppets. I've got nothing else to say. It's just, it's just, that's just madness. And again, I don't know what the, what the reason is. for this decision.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Again, I can't understand it. But if it has got anything to do with Monaco, that is just utter lunacy. I have thoughts. Okay. Let's hear him. Back along. Firstly, I have to say,
Starting point is 00:43:54 welcome to the club, Esteban Ockon. Welcome to the club of those that have either left Alpine or have been fired by Alpine. You join such alumni as Oscar Piastri, Fernando Alonzo, Ormarsafnauer, Alan Perman. Alan Prost, Bob Bell, Rob White, Lauren Rossi,
Starting point is 00:44:14 Dirk Tabarra, Matt Harmon, Daniel Ricardo, Cyril of Beatball, Davidei, Brubio, Martin Budkowski, and Pat Frye. And you're probably thinking, oh, that's a long list. How far does that go back? 15 years, four. About four years. How can you lose that many people in that time? All those people would make a great team.
Starting point is 00:44:36 A real good team. You probably would. You know what? next every single name on that list that Esteban Ockon is soon to join. They all wake up in the morning, every morning with a smile on their face, and do you know why? Because they don't have to go to work for Alpine
Starting point is 00:44:50 anymore. It's a joke of a team. As you say, Harry, how far down the goddamn list do you have to go before you get to drive a line-up as an issue? It's not an issue. They've got so many problems. Trent Alexander Arnold is still on the right front wheel, for goodness sake.
Starting point is 00:45:08 sort yourselves out. This was stupid. This does sound like it was Alpine driven, rather than knock on driven. Here's a guy who won a race for you a couple of years ago. Here's a guy who matched a two-time world champion of Fernando Alonzo and you are voluntarily getting rid of him. Unless you have pulled off the deal of a century and you need to make room for the incoming Max for Stauffin,
Starting point is 00:45:33 it is stupid. I swear to go to Vassin Alstamara, that's going to be... I'll lose my mind. I'll quit the show if happens tomorrow. Oh, Alping. Let's just put it out here. Ocon's a terrorist. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:50 No, let's not. Let's not do that. He's terrorising everyone. I just won't let it go. Just give him a job and it'd be fine. No, he doesn't deserve it now. Sorry, O'Con. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:46:05 What are you doing? Running your teammate off? the track so many times. That was on Gassley. Come on. I'm joking. He needed a bleep there, Kirstie. Honestly, it's Ong, it's Ong, it's Ong.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Gassie was great. Gassie was so good to this Grand Prix. I really do think that he was strong, and I think it was on O'Cong, but he was slower in front. He didn't make the passing along so quick enough if you had Gassie moaning about it. Then they kept fighting time after time again.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Why are you holding each other up? Why are you slowing each other up? Why you're slowing each other down when you've got dropped? In O'Kos' defense, why wouldn't he? I know, why wouldn't he? They sacked him. You're exactly marketing yourself to other teams. Oh, he's a real team player, this chap.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Let's bring him in. I heard he's a free agent. Bring him over. No! No! He's just going to run you off the road. He hates his teammates. He hates helping out his own team.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Even the old teammates are not your teammates anymore, Fernando Alonzo. Alonso's trying to... Oh, God, get me away from him. Hock-on is going to kill me. Wow. What reaction? I mean, Wilson's in the car. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That's why you at one point. Because Ockong's an idiot. Sorry, O'Cong, but that's two races now in the last three or four where you've been a bloody moron. It's his fault. Gassie was great, sublime. Teammate Wars. We're on a roll.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Let's move on to McLaren. Again, let's go through three-word summary. Sam? I borrowed from a famous phrase I'm sure you can all finish off because I can only use three words but I've used Future is now
Starting point is 00:47:46 and that's because their young driver lying up is fantastic I'll get into the details in a minute but I'm sure you can work out with a meme that I'm referencing Harry? I've put fast but silly.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I like that. I like that a lot. My three word is Miami Momentum Shift. So... Yes. Sam, young driver line up that you like. Yeah, I mean, the future is now, old man,
Starting point is 00:48:13 and Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri have arrived on the scene. And whilst Norris, he's an absolute bot on when it comes to the start, he's still an absolute threat in every single Grand Prix he competes in. He believes that he's an absolute top-tier driving hour, and we're starting to see what he's really made of. And Piastri is really kind of stepping into the ring. He's really announced himself. The car is actually spectacular.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Stella and Zach Brown have put together a fantastic, team that seems to really be able to harness a lot of the key skills, understand the characteristics of the car, they're delivering well on that Mercedes engine as well, because it's not theirs, of course. I just think that everything is swinging in the right direction for them. The only thing that is bringing their grade down for me at the moment is slow starts of the season, but they are recovering very, very nicely.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And, of course, as Harry's already referenced, the silliness that they went through in the likes of Hungary, which I do think they need to eyeing out pretty darn quick, otherwise it might come back to bite them. But for me, this is more, It's looking pretty tasty. Harry, you've managed to summarize McLaren season and my approach to sex, so...
Starting point is 00:49:16 I did not see... I was about to say that. Did not see that coming? And I guess that also goes. That's also appropriate. Oh, boy. Gosh, I might re-record that. I guess it was bigger than it said.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I would leave that in. definitely leave that in. Okay. Harry, you've gone for fast but silly. That has to say enough, there's no context for the laughter. Just do it, King. You've already mentioned Ferrari, Sam.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Of course, it is a home race for them. They are bringing upgrades, but we know the last time they brought upgrades around Imala. They didn't work. How important is it, not only for this race, but for the season as a whole, that they, that these, these work. They do what they are supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Well, there's no doubt about it. I'm ready to be hurt again. And I believe that these upgrades will definitely work, unlike the old ones, that definitely didn't work. Get a feel. Yeah. Why are you basing this on? I hear you all ask through the, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Hope and dreams. Hopes and dreams. It's Ferrari. I want the red car to win. And I want us to have an epic championship fight. the Constructors' Championship is so close now. You know, McLaren are sitting around the 30-point mark away. And Ferrari are weirdly not that far away still.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Ben, if I'm correct, under 100 points away from Red Bull? Yeah, yeah. There you go. So, you know, a couple of good results and Red Bull fluster and Perez stops, you know, picking out these little points here and there. It's going to turn around. We're going to end up with a very, very close title fight right at the end of this season. And I want Ferrari a part of it.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You know, they've been the almost team so many times. you know, 2017, 2018, they were the almost team. And then after Mercedes fell away and the new regulations, again, they were the almost seen for half a season in 22. And then you think, okay, rebel start to falter again in 24. And they looked like they might be when they picked up the win in Australia.
Starting point is 00:51:28 They picked up the win, of course, at Monaco. And then it never happens again. McClaring of the next team. So I want Ferrari in this fight. I want them to be able to start picking up race wings and be fully competitive. So I'm running on hopes and dreams. It's pure copium.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But I believe that actually they've got it right and they're going to be incredible at their home Grand Prix and it will be a monumental day for the Tofosi. Get the tissues really. That just, that is not going to happen. From happy crying. From all the champagne that is soaking up. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Tamer F1 is next. Hi there, guys. Longtime listener, first time submitter. Mind, a pressure is the papyrshire. is the papaya rules. They're so good, so good. They're calling them pauper rules now. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I don't get it. What? They're calling you what? Popper rules. I get, Harry. I get to hear it. Okay. Hi there, guys.
Starting point is 00:52:28 A long time listener, first time submitter. Mind of pressure is the papaya rules. They're so good, so good. They're calling them pauper rules now. I don't know what that means. What? Pop-a-Roles. I got no idea.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I need to Google it. It's pop-a-roll. That sounds like it's some sort of, like, a tagline or like a commercial-related joke, maybe. But, oh. Zamer, thank you so much, but what are you talking about? I'm probably just exposing ourselves as being really uncultured right now, and actually it's a really common reference. No, yeah, proper rules.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Tamer F1, that is my favourite. Oh, it's magic at the gathering. That's which I've never played. I explain, what's magic the gathering? I don't know. Tamer, please. Tamer, please. Let us know.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Let us know. Let's move on to everyone's favorite segment, F1, Fancy. See how we're doing after Azerbaijan. Go I love this segment. Firstly, congratulations to papayas for all, because they won this week. Popa rules. Popa rules, no.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Time Ref, I love you so much. 354 points, which was the top score. Top three overall in the championship, but still it's all gone wrong leading the way. Team Austrian Anthem in second. Prancing Zebras currently in third. As for the four of us, it wasn't looking great for me,
Starting point is 00:54:07 but that crash helped me a bit at the end, so I've gained 41 positions. I'm up to 172nd. On the charge, mate. Yeah, I, well, not as much as you, though. 86 positions gained for Sam, and he's back into second place, 307th. Kirsty's looking miserable.
Starting point is 00:54:23 She's enjoyed the high life of second and has dropped back down to third. Drop of 16 positions, 335th. We are about three quarters of the way through the season at this point. I appreciate we have people joining all the time. It's been a long season and I think now would be a good time to reflect back
Starting point is 00:54:46 on what has happened so far with Mr Harry Ead's season. Roll the footage. Oh no. Harry is first. Sorry, 900 first. Wow. Hey, I've got you all exactly where I want you.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I've got you all exactly where I want you. He was... 1,177. You got 10 minute left to say? I'll grade something! 1,244th. It's been a tricky start to the season. You're 1,281st.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'm certain on the basis of probability that this will turn around from it at some point. Harry, you are in 1,320th. Things can only get better. No, you're wrong. Again. No, one down. Oh no. I mean, but on the balance of probability and how far down I am, I would say, yes, I've improved.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You're down 14 positions, so your new position is 1,352nd. Now 1,366. I don't understand. Make that 1,398. You might want to make jokes here. Right. Harry played a chip this week. Now 1,467th. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah. 1,512. If you're interested, 1,530th. That's the wise. No, it is. Again, well, yeah, no, it wasn't great. I've got you all exactly right. Very good, Ben.
Starting point is 00:56:40 That could have gone better for me. And it has gone better. It's a last. Landmark week. Yes. Because Harry Ead, the man we call Titanic is all he does is sink, right? He is up eight positions. Eight.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Come on. Oh, what a beautiful day. What a mate. You actually text us as well because you thought you'd had a good week. Do you know what? I'll be real. I thought it might have been more than eight. Didn't exceed your expectations.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Well. Yeah. I'll take it. I'll take it. The comeback sales game. Exactly. I've got you all exactly where I want to. Exactly where I want you.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Swearing. This is an interesting one. FIA president, Muhammad Ben Suleum, said F1 must differentiate itself from rap music, because that's the thing that needs to happen. It's tough to tell between the two. He criticized excessive swearing over Team Radio. Team Radio with a view to clamp down on it. Stewards then ordered Max Verstappen to complete some work of public interest,
Starting point is 00:58:11 direct quote, for using a profanity during Thursday's official press conference in Singapore. And in response to that, Max Verstappen only gave short answers in the FIA press conference after qualifying in the race. He gave more in-depth answers to journalists outside of the media centre. There's quite a bit to look at here, Harry. Let's start at least with, let's go chronologically. with Mohamed Ben Suleim's comments, do you find a difficult to distinguish between rappers and F1 drivers?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yes, actually. I'm a lifelong rap fan, and I've only now just realized that I've not been watching rappers every weekend. I thought it was just a tour of the world of rapping. Oh, 20 best rappers. What the freaking hell are you talking about? Why is this even an issue? it just feels like this is something
Starting point is 00:59:02 he doesn't oh you don't like a swear word grow up you're pathetic this is not even this is a non-issue and right first of all don't mind driver swearing you know when they're in car it's it's funny I'm not offended by it
Starting point is 00:59:17 but also shows like the passion they have most of the time it's they're passionate or annoyed or something because they're passionate and they're competitive and they're sports people it is the least non-issue in F1. I mean, it's not even a thing.
Starting point is 00:59:35 This has never crossed my mind before. So why have you even made this a point, Ben? Not you, Ben, so do you. Ben, silly man. Ben, silly man. Yeah, why is this even being raised as a point? I do not, I do not for the life of me, I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:59:55 The comparison to rappers is just poorly judged as Lewis Hamilton's pointed out, it's got racist undertones to it as well, which is excellent work, Ben. Again, Suleim, not you, Ben. Yeah, people are coming after me. Sorry, mate. Honestly, I'm sorry, man.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But, yeah, just the fact that we're talking, I know it's a topic point, but the fact we're talking about this is ridiculous because why do we care? Well, we don't care. It's just Ben, Solium cares. It's just, it's just pathetic. I feel like,
Starting point is 01:00:28 Today's theme is just us being confused by things. Confused about how Red Bull Treat Ricardo, confused about these comments. Sam, you've, well, between the three of us, you've already said your thoughts, but for the people at home, what do you think about this? The comments are so multi,
Starting point is 01:00:46 there's so many strands of wrong that's come off this. It is mind-blowing. Let's talk about the swearing issue to begin with, right? Okay. I don't want race drivers to swear, says Ben Silliam. We don't need them to swear.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Okay, so many ways you can go with this. Firstly, let's look at all the other problems that we've had when it comes to Formula One. The amount of nations that we go to that have got human rights problems that we just go, you pay enough money, we'll race there. Now, of course, I agree that those people in those countries, conservatives, and F1 race, but money is king, and that will get rid of all your issues there. Do you remember when Lewis Hamilton wasn't allowed to kneel anymore? Yeah, because he was trying to support Black Lives.
Starting point is 01:01:27 matter, that was a problem. Do you remember when it was allowed to wear a t-shirt and they were allowed to wear t-shirts to support equality and equal movement? And rainbow flags were possibly going to be banned because the LGBTQ plus was to what? To what? Nothing. That was a problem. Persuaring, that's a problem.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And then you use one of the worst metaphors of all time that F1 driver swearing is similar, not if not the same to. Indistinguishable to rappers on songs, which get bleak. And you go, what else gets bleeped? F1 broadcasts because they're delayed because you have full control over what goes over air because it is censored by you, which you create. You have full say in the TV direction.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You don't want swear words broadcast. Blip. Blip. Blip. You can do that. It's a little button. We've got one. Can I ask you put it on?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Well, I swear. To be fair, on this point, I guess is F1 the control, the TV direction, not the FIA. And is this another swipe at... Yeah, because F1 are never going to get rid of the swearing or this. Of course not. Because it's, you know, it's exciting. It's show stopping.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And then on this point of the swearing, you've made a comparison between rappers and Formula One drivers, which has got massive racial undertones, who the only black Formula One driver that has ever taken part in the sport because rappers are majoratively black men in the current pop industry. So that's another swipe. And someone who you clearly don't get along with.
Starting point is 01:02:55 We've seen Lewis Hamilton's reaction to Ben Sillium every time it gets out the car on the podium. It doesn't talk to him. Doesn't he's around him. It doesn't want to be around him. That's very clear. So the fact that these drivers who have trained all their life,
Starting point is 01:03:07 they're so passionate, they're driving at 200 and something miles an hour. They're hitting walls. They're hitting each other. They're ecstatic when they win. They are desperate when they lose. And you have an issue with the occasional F word or the occasional S word, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:22 Grow up, actually grow up. I'm not even joking. I'm really annoyed about how pathetic this is from the FIA and Ben Silliam. Genuinely, one of the most minute, pathetic problems I've ever seen someone have a go out in my life. It is tragic. You are tragic.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Grow up, mate. Seriously, frustrated by this awful conversation. Max Verstappen, I think reacted perfectly. Be a child for such a childish, silly topic. I think he was right to act like that. If I was driving an F1 car, I'd swear every like 10 seconds because it would be that scary.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah, literally. It would be one. long swear word for 61 laps. Yeah, yeah. He embarrasses himself sometimes, don't he? Oh. Every time he opens his plug-in mouth. He's made a fool.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Fool of himself. I'll tell you what, he should go to like a football match in the UK on like a Wednesday evening and then his eyes would be open. That was the exact point I was going to make is what does he think would happen if you put, if you miced up 22 players on a football pitch? Like, what would be set up? Good play, old chess. come.
Starting point is 01:04:28 You got my ankle there, you cheeky bugger. I'm like, what do you think's going to be said in that situation? Come on. Yeah. The thing is he doesn't just embarrass himself. Like he embarrasses the sport and he embarrasses the FIA. And look, the FIA needs a lot of help. It doesn't need help embarrassing itself without your support, Ben Sillium.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Right now, R.B. Red Bull. What are you leaning towards that line up looking like next year? I think Barras is. gone. I really do. I'm sorry to fans that we definitely have out here on the live show. We're going to get more bad reviews, Sam. I know. I know. So many. There's a lovely chap
Starting point is 01:05:07 who is very upset every time I have mouth perors. But you could drive faster. Do Baku again. Not literally, but that performance, right? He was great there. And he has his moments. He was pretty good at the start of the season course when Red Bull were knocking one-two's out of the park. But I just they need to put their future somewhere
Starting point is 01:05:22 and the 2025 season is such a playground for them. They can go out and they can try something. Is it working for them? Is it what they want? No, right. We can adjust it. We can change it.
Starting point is 01:05:32 You're seeing so many teams prepare for the next four or five seasons. Mercedes-bringing's bringing Antingelli. Williams bringing in science. You're hearing about all these changes. You know, Audi still haven't confirmed who's alongside Holkenberg. So it's a lot to play with. And I think if you're going to take a risk,
Starting point is 01:05:46 2025 is the season to take that risk. So I don't think Seno is ever getting it. I think Stangelo is stuck in that R.B. team until he maybe goes for a Honda-based move elsewhere. They can't see him. just look over the top of him that's why it's the second height
Starting point is 01:06:02 coming in the space from about three minutes I'm also not tall well you're not getting the seat either so it's true it's true anyway
Starting point is 01:06:13 come on yuki finish your point yuki isn't getting the sea I think Paris is on incredibly nice I think it's going to be a Lawson to staff and line up what are you thinking I wouldn't be surprised if Lawson gets
Starting point is 01:06:28 to see next year. It depends how the next six races go. I think he's got the RPC for 2025 but if he smashes the next six races out of the park and Perez continues to just do what he's doing at the moment then it's
Starting point is 01:06:44 a very red ball thing to do to take that risk. So yeah, I would I don't want to make it a classic on the fence but I don't want to make it cool until I'd seen the next six races but I yeah I'd be leaning towards a Vastapp and Lawson line up.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I think you're both wrong. I don't think they'll go. That's a shock. I mean, you can just clip this for when Lawson is announced next year. But my instinct is that they either stick with Sergio Perez or if they do make a switch, they put Yuki Sanoda in alongside Vastappen. I just think Red Bull have been burned before.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And to be fair, that hasn't stopped them in the past, which is a valid argument. but we saw what happened with Alex Albin, got promoted too early, didn't work, doing very well elsewhere. Pierre Gasley, promoted too early, trying to do well elsewhere. He's doing his best, I'm sure. And I just think they don't want to go through exactly the same thing again with Liam Lawson, just promoting someone after what would be 11 races,
Starting point is 01:07:51 but stretched out over two seasons. If Lawson comes in and absolutely demolishes Yuki Sanoda, which to be honest, I'm doubtful that will happen. Then maybe they take a look. But I think if they're going to make a switch, they might just finally actually do something with Yuki Sunoda. He deserves it. Quick question about Liam Lawson for this weekend.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Does he have to ride that horse in that Daniel Ricardo always rides? Yeah, they've already bought the horse, so they have to. Yeah, Liam. Yeah, it's in his contract. That's your first ride. Good. We've got that important question out of the way. Welcome back to the final part of today's review of the Brazilian Grand Prix.
Starting point is 01:08:32 We now have moment of the race. We do have, of course, Discord submissions coming up very shortly before we get there. We each have to try and find just one, maybe moment of the race. Sam, what have you got? Oh, this really made me laugh. I really put it as my big brain strap. I wanted to save it from the moment of the race. So Carlos Sykes is on intermediate tires.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And with the radio, you suddenly hear, Ricky, because aren't the new into it. What tires are these? And then he exits probably with, hello. And we don't hear a response. Just ignoring him. Oh, I just got me. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Five laps later, crashes a car. Yeah, well, I'll show you, Ricky. I'll not do this anymore. He just did it because he was annoyed. His tie's a rubbish in the wall. Hello. You see, hello, the semptu. Hello.
Starting point is 01:09:26 remind me to get that on the sandwich. That's so good. So good. Harry, you're somewhat known for having like five of these moments of the races anyway. On a daylight today, I assume you've got like 50. Here we go. No, it's not that many. I said this before we started, but the first on my list is what set the tone for the race,
Starting point is 01:09:49 which is the grid animation or grid order animation, just not working. Got this P-17 and went, do you know what? I don't know. I don't understand. I'm having a day off too. I'm out. I've just written stroll. We've covered that.
Starting point is 01:10:01 But yeah. Nice. Verstappen's start with flame emojis. Because, yep. Filthy. Put the 10 second penalty thing with Bermann but we covered that already. Frank, I know Hamilton had just been off the road,
Starting point is 01:10:14 but Frank and Colopinto planting one on Lewis Hamilton into the Ceneres, which was actually pretty filthy. I also enjoyed the crowd going wild for Franka Colopinto. Now I know they're very close by, but he is Argentinian, not Brazilian. And it just made me laugh because I know the Brazilian fans love Lewis Hamilton. He's an honorary citizen. But when it's still one of their own South American pludge, we'll cheer for him.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It doesn't matter who you are, Lewis. We will cheer for Colapinto. So that one got me panning to the Williams mechanic after Collierpinter then crashed, which was... Oh, yeah. That poor team. Oh, he just... It was just him rubbing his forehead, like, I can't do it. this anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I can't put that car together. I can't do again. Fair play to the women's drivers, by the way, because they didn't have small crashes. They did it properly. They did it properly this weekend. They wiped those cars along the wall, didn't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 They could have not. They could have not. They could have not. But I would argue they did. They were committed. You know what? This is why we don't have qualified on a Sunday. Because with that we lost our one,
Starting point is 01:11:19 we could have lost more. Shows you that it probably doesn't work very well. Then I had hello from Carlos. but the one I've settled for, which was late on in the race, and I just feel sorry for the guy, but Fernando Alonso. Oh my God. The radio message is so good.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I mean, bleak, but so good. Like, and I respect him. I'm finishing this race for the mechanics. But it was the way, because his back was in pain from the bounce. I've seen onboard, actually. That car was bouncing a lot. Like, no wonder. That surface, it was terrible.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah. But it was the way he said, but my and as as he said the word back he obviously like went over a bump in it jarred he went by my back he said by him and Louis Hamilton exactly and I've seen a great meme of
Starting point is 01:12:09 it's Arnold Schwarzenegger and oh god who's the other person but I'll send it to you guys but they're just like two old men lying in the hospital beds and that's Hamilton and one yes yes
Starting point is 01:12:23 Um, yeah, I'll stroll just crashed on the first lap because he wants to protect his back. Yeah, I'm valid. There's something really wrong with that ride of that car around that circuit. But yeah, a lot of contenders, but I'll settle with poor Fernando and his poor back. I have decided to go for on a day that there were so many brilliant comedic moments and ridiculous moments. I felt it was necessary to go for something driving related that was just genuinely brilliant. one of the ones that Harry mentioned. That start by Vastappan was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Around the outside of those cars, sometimes the very best in the sport just show us who they truly are. And that was one of those moments. That was brilliant. Moment of the race from you, Harry. I don't know where to start. I've written a few.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I won't read them all out because the list is extensive, folks. So you can see that. You can see that. one that really got me on the this is very sky sports specific on the grid
Starting point is 01:13:29 Simon Lazily asking Rio Ferdinand about football and the man did not want to talk about football whatsoever it's just like nah I'm not here to talk about that go away Simon the graphic that said
Starting point is 01:13:40 weekend attendance sold out oh my God that's got so good that's not a number that doesn't work so that was good Alonzo's Certified GP2 moment.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Good to hear him back. Enjoy them. Fume in. LeClair is saying the way I drive a punch is likely. Or don't drive like that, then shall. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Is car broken. We've spoken about that. Speak louder, please. This is a game. McClare. It's stupid. Why does he recite the same full line? The joke's worn off.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah, he's trying to be funny. It's going to be funny. Stop the fucking out. But it's already been mentioned Kevin Manston overtaking Alex album and saying, fuck off. Sorry,
Starting point is 01:14:36 I, oh, great. She's going to roll her eyes there. Do you know what I'm all with me about that? One, hilarious lie, brilliant lying. They make such a bug bear out of this swearing issue. You think shows into broadcast a clear swear. That's F1, isn't it? Not at the FIA.
Starting point is 01:14:55 So they're probably doing it to wind them up. I know. It's having a right laugh. Yeah, play it, play it, play it, play it. Do it, do it, do it. Anyway, sorry, I've got more than a less fast stop because we will be here for days. I had two moments of the race written down. And hopefully, Harry has picked one of those two.
Starting point is 01:15:14 So I won't give it to Kevin Magnuson telling Albin to off, because as funny as that was really funny. for just a moment turned into the most British person. I didn't see, because the camera wasn't zoomed in enough, I think he had a can of John Smith in his hand when he said that. I think he rolled down the window and stuck his fingers out there. Car, like, oh, F half. He had a cigarette in one.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Cigarette in one. Cigarette in one. A lot. F-half. Wheeling his car with his elbows. Kids in the back, crying. Yeah, you drive me crazy, kids. Shut it.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And how he's called Steve. Steve Magnerson. So that was a contender. But my other one that is kind of already been said throughout this episode was, and I actually have like a late-breaking anecdote to compare this to. So I can't remember if we... We Sunday. We Sunday. We Sunday.
Starting point is 01:16:12 We Sunday. Flag in the line. Today's episode, myself and Harry traveled to London where Sam used to live. Oh, God. We got, you picked us up and there was a driver who was fairly erratic and look at this story.
Starting point is 01:16:29 And myself and Harry being helpfully who we are said, you should beep at him, Sam. So Sam goes, as many times as you possibly can in the space of 10 seconds and then silence for a few seconds. And I go, go on, one more.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And that was the one that sent this person wild and fortunately we just about survived to tell this tell. The reason I say this anecdote was Williams have been through so much with their cars breaking down. Crash after crash after crash.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I think it was 16 was mentioned on the actual broadcast. Colapinto crashes in the first corner. And Williams' like mechanics are they're like, oh, if we have to do one more and then the mirror throws off. And that's the thing that sends them.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Like, no, I'm done now. We have got any mirrors left. Sorry, you can't have another. mirror. Just torch the whole garage at this point. Get Maldegardo backing. Oh dear.
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