The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Do Mercedes have the BEST driver line up in F1?

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

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This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Lake Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to tune in for new episodes every Wednesday and Grand Prix Sunday. Hello and a very warm welcome to the Lake Breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. We've got another episode of Formula One Things to Talk about. I think that's my entire intro. Sam, you managed to actually see me from the last podcast recording that we did. We've actually seen each other in person since then,

and we spent our time very wisely, didn't we, watching a one-hour compilation of Harry Hill's TV burp? Oh, honestly, the content just never got old. It was just banger after banger after banger with old Harry Hill. And if you start seeing some weird different parts of the show creeping, it's entirely inspired by 2004 season of Harry Hill's TV. burp on ITV. Harry, you

ironically, Harry, you did turn up for some of the Harry Hill watching. Did you enjoy your Curry and your Harry Hillisms? Yeah, I mean, yes. Curry was delightful.

I had a booner, I think. And Harry Hill was also great and it was obviously lovely to see you two in person. We just played FIFA all night, basically, and it was lovely. Yeah. It was delightful.

It was light film. I mean, another day, another sleigh for us. That's how we roll. That's how we roll. That's definitely a thing we're going to say now. I am acutely aware as well that we have mentioned Harry Hill's TV Burt before and have done here a very niche British reference to kick off the show, so apologies. I mean, if you're from the States, like, I think it's the soup.

Like, imagine that, but British. The soup. We have soup here, England. I don't like it. I don't really enjoy soup. Not really. I just have the bread. I just have the bread. And I'm like, I run out of bread.

Yeah, bread dipped in soup. So you like bread? Yeah, I love bread. Bread's lush. Good. Right, glad we got to the bottom of that. Anyway, get on with it. I've got so many questions.

Carry on. Sure. We're playing F1 back and forth later on in the episode. We're a red Formula 2 topic making an appearance. We're going to be discussing who's the favorite or who are the favorites of the F2 field now that that is completely set for this season. French toast making a comment about wanting Mick Schumacher at Alphatari this year. Didn't of course happen, but we'll be discussing whether it should have happened.

But we're going to start with ranking the 10 lineups. So we're looking at both drivers. We're going to try and rank them 10 through to 1. Who knows what our lists are going to look like. Are you aware, first of all, with both of you, what we're doing. we here. Yes, I actually have a list. Ben, while you were going,

I'm updating your laptop, I actually said to Harry, Harry, have you looked at the topics list? And have you done any research on the topics list? Have you made a list? You know what he said? No, I'll do that now.

So he's done it. But... Sorry, an episode of your friends list. The good news is, I've got a list. And it seemed that it could have been

seamless that because, you know, could just carry on as if I'd researched. Nothing on this show is seamless. You do not. We are a seam. All right. I am taking advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity. And when I say once in a lifetime, I really do mean

this of Harry being prepared for something. Somewhat. He had technical difficulties go his way on this one. But I'm going to go to you first on this one, Harry, because I don't think I'm ever going to be able to again. What is your list looking like? do you want to do the whole lot?

Do you want to do 10 to 6? Like, I'll leave it up to you. Well, that's quite the responsibility you've thrown my shoulders there. At least tell me which way to do it. That never happens. I'll do 10 to 6 first, even though it's 20 to 9.

So, no, wait, where's the laugh? Come on. That is the worst banter. Oh! Yes. Time-related banter. Time-related banter. I was saying to Sam

when I was not rushing these before the podcast started, the bottom three, I feel they could interchange quite easily. So I'm still not quite convinced on what I've planted for here. But number 10, I've gone for Alvatari because Yuki Sunoda

only knows how to do first and last races still. it needs to cut that one out. And Nick DeFries has done one race. And look, it was a great race, but he's only done one. Now, both of these could prove me entirely wrong this year, but going on the basis of what I've seen in F1 of them, it's looking a bit weak at the moment. So they're at number 10.

But I think they could both prove me wrong this year. I mean, Yuki needs to do anyway, but I think they could. number nine I've got Williams again we have an unknown quantity in the shape of Logan Sargent don't really know a lot about Logan

he's American sure anything else yeah anyway Logan Corporal his name's Logan Corporal he can't be Logan Sargent because we can't have LS because Lance Storl has already

Mark Stodle hasn't been the market. LD. Anyway, so we've got Lance, no, we've got Logan Corprol in the Williams. But obviously we've got Alex Albums. So that, when I was comparing the Williams and Alpha Tauri seats, Alex Albon in my eyes, you know, pushes Williams up, that duo up to ninth. Then in eighth, I've got Alfa Romeo. Hopefully Bottas is, you know, back from Oss.

Australia looking beautiful with his mullet. He might be, might not. The man's so chilled. He's just, you know, making wine and beer and stuff, isn't he? So he might turn up for this year. If he does, good. And Gaguan Yew, obviously, it's an okay pairing. It's still stronger than those bottom two in my view.

Joganyu needs to prove himself a bit more. Bottas needs to do more than just to start the season. Turn up for the rest of it. Sorry, Botta, something harsh here. The car was bad towards the end as well. In fairness, he got to Miami and thought, that's enough of that. That's about it, isn't it?

He'd given up, yeah. I don't need it. I'm not a Mercedes now. There's no championships to win. I'll chill. Anyway, so that's how I put in eighth. Seventh I've gone for Hasse. Couldn't be my own writing then, but it's Hasse.

Very... I know. Well, I've read it quickly. I don't know I didn't. It wasn't rushing. Look, a solid lineup, but two drivers that arguably are past their peak, potentially. Is that fair to say? I don't know. Kevin Magmson pole position might disagree with that.

But Holgerbeck's been out of the seat for a couple of years, so he's not an unknown quantity, but he might be a slightly rusty. It's just a solid pairing. It outranks the other three that I've already been through, but it's just an okay pairing. And then finally, or not finally, but finally for now, number six, Aston Martin, now I said this to sound beforehand, there's some variables in this team.

In this lineup, we have some strong contenders. We have some not-so-strong contenders in the form of Fernando Alonzo and Lance Stroll. And then the law of averages balances that one out to number six. But what if Alonzo surprises you and does all right? Go on, Trump. He's gone for another one. The drum roll? Oh, cricky.

The sound points come alive. Fernando might surprise me and do well this year. Who knows? But yeah, that's pretty why why Estimarton just outranked hats in that respect, even though maybe it's not overall as solid. There's a two-time world champ in that team. So, you know, do the dance.

Do the dance. So, yeah, so that's my 10 to 6. Alphiari, Williams, Alfred. Ramayor Hass, Aston Martin. I love this. Two-time old champ does. Cool. We'll look at all three of our

10 to 6 in this first segment. We'll take a quick break and then we'll do 5 to 1 after that. So Alpha Tauri, Williams, Alpha Romeo, Hass, and then Aster Martin rounding out sixth place. Sam, what's your 10 to 6 looking like? Very, very similar,

actually. There is only one difference in my 10 to 6, which is actually quarter to 9. And that is, that in 10th place, thank you. In 10th place is Alfa Towery. Pretty much the same reasons that Harry went for there.

Yuki is so unreliable, as much I think he's got bags of raw talent. He used to really hang us to get it together. Nick, who knows, he could be an absolute dark horse, but he also could just be the guy that's taken so many extra years to get a seat,

turns up, and he's just, yeah, you know, fine. It's not too strong. The night place I've gone Williams again. Albon keeps that team above the Alpha Tauri pairing for me at the moment. Logan Sargent is an unknown quantity. He wasn't even that superb in the junior formula.

It's got whatever, you know, it was very good, but never, you know, Piazcri, Norris, that level for me. So, yeah, we'll see how he goes. In eighth place, here's one of the differences. I've got the Haast team. I think that Holgerberg is past his peak, and I think he was past his peak when he was skilled regularly racing before he took his time away for the two, three years that he was away for. You know, I'm not saying he can't get a good performance or be a consistent driver, I guess. don't really think he's got that raw performance anymore.

Magnuson, box office, you never know when he's absolutely going to throw something away, send it down the inside and take off every front wing on the grid. You never know with KMAG. We love to see it happening. We love to see him on the track, but the man is a menace. So, you know, not too consistent. That's running seventh place. I've got Alfa Romeo.

I think Bottas is still one of the finest drivers on that Formula One grid. And I think that if he gets the car given to him, he will be able to consistently put out good performances. Basically, just don't make Bottas overtake anyone. As long as he's faster than everyone else around him naturally, he would do so well at Bottas is great. And I think Joe Guan Yu really impressed me last season. He's actually so much interesting.

I thought he was. I think that he became into his good form as the car got worse, so therefore results look a bit deceiving on his end, and maybe he's a bit unlucky with how certain performances playing out. But I actually think he's proved himself. He's a strong driver. I don't think he's ever going to go and win a world title or anything like that, but he deserves that scene.

I think him and Bottas together are a good pairing. And then in sixth place, I've got Lance Dordal and the goat. Fernando Alonkso. Goat! In Ashton Martin, sitting in sixth place, and that's why Texas six.

Yeah, people, high opinions of Fernando Alonzo. We'll see how he gets on against Lance Stroh. I just don't know. Risky. Just don't know. I mean, he is recently only been a rookie. Firstly,

firstly, the good news here is that we have got slightly different lists. None of us have got the same list, which is always a fear. So, I mean, that's a tick in the box for that. Unfortunately, it isn't radically different from what the two of you've got because, let's face it,

when you take out the top three teams, there's not really scope to be too different on these lists. But I'll give you the reasoning for mine. So it's a trio of Alphatowary in 10th place just to start with. Wow. one. Sorry, Alfa Tauri, but the reality is this. Yuki Sonoda, genuine question here, as much as I love him as a late breaking hall of favour, and he is forever enshrined because of that. Is there anyone on the grid that is definitively,

you can say, for certain, worse than Yuki Sonoda? Now, there is a good chance that one or maybe even two of the rookies end up being worse than Sonoda. There's a chance of it, but it is not at this moment know. There is a legitimate chance that we look back, sort of 10 races into this season, and we say Sonona is the worst driver on this grid. Latifi's not there anymore. Mazapin's not there anymore. Arguably, Schumacher was a similar level. I don't think there's anyone on the grid you can point to and say, definitely, Sonona is better than that person. So it's tough to put them any higher because one of those people that maybe ends up being worse than Sonoda is his teammate, Nick DeVries, who we're

a bit unsure about. Obviously, the Italy performance was impressive, as you've already mentioned, but there's concerns there because you don't know exactly what you're going to get, and he's not coming in at the same age as most rookies. That does have to be factored in. So he might be able to get hit the ground running quicker than others, but hit the round gunning quicker than others. No guns, please. No, no guns here. No difference in terms of who is ninth either.

I've got Williams there. I think that really speaks to how good Alex Album was last year that Williams is not last on any of our lists because Sargent's are complete unknown, obviously. But Alex Albin did such a great job that he elevated that team last year. And it shows in our three opinions. Because if he wasn't as good as he was last year, Williams is probably last on either all of our lists or at least one of our lists.

So fair play to him. Eighth on the list, I've got the same as Harry here. I've got Alpha Romeo. I actually think these two complement each other quite well. Firstly, just to say, outside of the top three teams, Alpha Romeo is the only team that retains their line up from last year. So that could well play to their benefit, having that continuity year on year. And I think they complement each other quite well

because Bottas does seem to go up and down with the car a bit. I think when the car is operating well, Bottas is always in a position for a fifth, sixth place. Joe Guan Yu wasn't so much. But actually, I thought he dug in pretty well, say mid-season where the car wasn't doing well. He seemed to dig in maybe a bit better than Bottas did

and still delivered a few pretty good performances. 7th I've got Hass. yeah like you say really in terms of Holkenberg and Kevin Magnuson there is a bit of a question mark as to how well they'll get on but actually they might end up being a good pairing just because Magnuson when he's on he's on like he is box office as Sam mentioned there's three or four times a year when you look at Magnuson Brazil qualifying Bahrain and you think damn yeah he he pretty good

and then he goes eight races without scoring a point and if he's lacking consistency, arguably there's one driver that always comes to mind and it's Niko Holkenberg. So they might well compliment each other quite well there, but Holkenberg is an unknown, as you've already referenced, and Magnuson, whilst he's good, he's not great. So I've got them at 7th.

And the difference in opinion, and to be fair, I really couldn't separate 5th and 6th here, but I've got Alpine in 6th. I've got the line up of Ockon and Gassley. arguably we'll get into fifth through the first in the second half of this. But Ockon and Gassley are consistent, but arguably I don't think there's anything there to, I think they're too similar. I think they're too similar and don't provide something that the other doesn't provide.

A lot of how well their line up will get on is probably down to what GASley delivers. Is it going to be the Gassley we got in 2022 or is it going to be a rejuvenated Gassley from 2021, 2020, that sort of form. If so, they're probably worthy of fifth or fourth, but I've got them at sick fear because I think it's arguably a bit uninspiring. It's still solid. And like I said, there's not really much for me separating you fifth and sixth, but I've got them in the bottom half.

Thanks just put Okong and Gazile and the Alpine team in the corner. It's just repeatedly kicking them with a pair of steel toe cap boots. Like, you're boring, you're right, inspiring, you're, rubbish, you're two the same, I hate you, and you're all French. Hang on a minute. Brexit beef might have a problem with the French. I don't. Ben, Hates, baguettes. I love a baguette. Bears, beats.

Bagelisk. Quite fancy a bagelette now. A serious end, of course, to the first half. Indeed. What do you have in your baguette, Ben? baguette ben jeez i mean before before you got there on friday

harry me and sam out a subway we did we both went for the same thing all about that meatball maranara isn't it meatball marinerer i appreciate there is a difference here but a baguette i know i know mubs are better than baguettes though well anyway get us out of it oh my god

sure uh that'll do it for no just the first quarter of the episode. We'll be back for fifth through to first right after this. Thanks, forget, Ben. All right, here we go. Forget Ben back in the house for fifth fruit to first. Now he's toasted.

I'm just going with the flow on this now. Harry, could you give us five fruit to one? I can shockingly. Number five, I've got a five-star rating from you lovely listeners.

Oh, who saw it coming? Not you! Yes! You know, it's been a while, folks. I've not asked for a little, Ben's looking at the soundboard for something. What's he searching for? I'm sure there'd be something good on here if the soundboard didn't wipe everything

that I had on it at Christmas. Terrible Christmas present soundboard. Yeah, cheers soundboard. Anyway, yeah, five-star rating, guys. You know, we love a review. helps us a lot. I've not plugged this for, I don't know, I've plugged it in 2023 yet, so, you know, it's the first one of the year. Please leave them. And as we always say, if you have a one-star review, we don't want

them. So we don't want to hear your negativity. If you listen to the first segment and four, this isn't very good, it's probably worth one and a quarter star, just bear in mind there's four segments. So just times it by four and you get a five-star review. So average it out, phones. Boom Anyway I'm my actual number five I've got Alpine

Not because I hate the French But yeah I would agree It was maybe a tough one In between fifth and sixth You're right It's a it's a sort of unknown As to what what kind of Pierre Gazley we're going to get this year

If it is a 2021 or 2020 version Alpin could have a really solid gear with that with that duo. As you say, they are, they are kind of one of the same those two drivers. Not because they're French, but they are kind of the same.

Sacribleu! Yes. Exactly. We have like no French audience, so if you are French, I'm so sorry. French Sam over there. Good. Yeah, so I've got them in fifth. I think it's a solid line-up. It could be even better.

Number four, I have got McClaren Landon Norris he's quite good at F1 is a great point though he's quite good

is quite good at the F1 I think we should I really do you fill it in yourself yeah you could buy yourself a Sharpie and maybe write your own name

in there I was thinking more like we could give the option to personalise it but yeah get a sharpie and write it on yourself we don't have the text it's a bit hard technique

you don't have the facilities for that big man I've gone for McLaren because Lanois is quite good he had a great year last year he wiped the floor with old Danny Rick and Danny Rick's not there because next to him next to Norris is now Oscar Piastri now he

also quite good at not necessarily F1 but at the racing so far new T-shirt yep another one another another T-shirt range there but he's been his junior formula form has been very good.

So, as we've said before, a lot of expectations on its shoulders, but I think that's going to be a really solid lineup. As long as things go well for Piastri, and so are going to be a really solid lineup for this year. Number three, I've gone for, now again, I really struggle with, not struggle with these three, but it's a bit tricky. I've gone for Red Bull,

and it's the law of averages playing out again here, because Max Verstappen, also quite good at F1. I don't know if you've noticed. I'm not saying Sergio Perez isn't, but the averages again, you know,

and I just think it brings them down a notch to as a line-up and that's not a fault of Maxx-Rostappans. It's not a fault of Sergio Perez. They're still third. I just think that's where that line-up sits. We know who the number one is in that team, and that's clear,

and that's always been clear. So that's why they're third. Number two, Ferrari, a driver line-up, not worthy of their stupidity, but they've got a good driver line-up. Charler-Clair and Carlos Sines. Now, again, I know Sines didn't have the greatest of years last year, but over a two-year period, I think he's, you know, he still proved himself. And Charlotte-Clair, also very good. And together, a very good, solid lineup for a top team. but they don't quite make number one

because if you've been counting folks I've put a number one Mercedes no British buyers here but two Brits two Brits of the top but look Lewis Hamilton

seven time old champion another very good F1 driver and George Russell who beat him last year so as lineups go they're very good I think

I don't know this time last year and someone's going to go back and check Liz, I don't know if I would have put them as number one, maybe I did, but I maybe would have been more unsure about Ben knows. What did I put as number one? I think you put Ferrari as number one. I could be wrong. There you go.

So look, Mercedes, now that we've got a year under George's belt and it went quite well, I'd feel confident it's a big old belt. I feel confident in saying that they've got the best lineup in F1 for 2023. That is a it's a humdinger of a lineup Mercedes aren't going to want to let that go anytime soon

so that's my five to one five is five-star reviews number four McLaren three Red Bull two Ferrari number one Mercedes just to quickly pick up on the last point of Mercedes aren't going to want to give them up it's F1 is too easy for Mercedes in that they could have had that line up like two years before they had it and they didn't need it didn't even need it It didn't even. Just too easy, isn't it? So Mercedes end up on top in Harry's rankings. What do your rankings look like, Sam?

I want everyone just to buckle up for a ride because this is going to have a different looking face to what Harry just presented. Come on. Yeah, please do, buckling. Thank you. Five, for Zadik. Keep your arms and legs inside of the vehicle at all times.

Number five is, fine. Number five is Macca. Those orange little numbers that go racing round. Lano Norris, Crem della Crem, right? The guy I reckon would challenge Max and Stappen right now if you put it in the same car.

I reckon he'd take it down to the wire. But Oscar Piaastri comes in with the weight of the world on his shoulders. Not only of you ousted Daniel Riccardo who's got what eight victories under his belt is absolutely loved and adored by every Formula One fan and the paddock alike. You had another team

who wanted to put you above the goat Fernando Alonso in their team, right? You've got so much pressure to perform. As Ben said on our previous podcast, you're already in theory, one of the most expensive drivers on the grid by how much money to pay Daniel Ricardo to get out of the seat.

The pressure is immense. and I have a real feeling in the pit of my stomach that Piastri might take some time to Sessalon despite just how good his junior record is. But with a caveat, if Piaastri gets into race one and he absolutely nails it and he could, I really do think that actually they could be fighting for a top two, top three partnership.

But as we're going, for me, they aren't there yet. If we do a half-year review in Piazra's gaining it, there could be a whole different face for this list. In fourth place, we've got, if you're out Pingang, you know, it clap your angs. If you're helping, and you know,

it clap your angs. We've got galsy, we've got Ocker, we've been driving with a burg. It comes we're helping and you know, clap your angs. It's happening. Did you write that?

Did you write that before you did it? No, I just made, literally just make out. That is a talent. I did say, I got the day I got the sleigh earlier, Ben, so, you know. No, this is worse.

Oh, good. Now, I am using this as the prime of each driver. Espan O'Con has been continually getting better season over season. You know, he's not a well-beater, but he is almost the perfect, Mr. Consistent MIG Field.

He's almost what Sergio Perez, Nuka Holkenberg were, like five, six years ago when you looked for a prime midfield driver that gets a good result occasionally, brings the car home now, safely more often than not, doesn't get a good teammates,

putting all that bit. He's, you know, the guy gets consistent results. a car that sometimes has got different competition around it, and I think that's great. Now, if we get Ghazley from 2021, you know, motivated, determined to make a point, has got a car that suits him underneath him. I think Ghazly becomes a top five driver on this grid, regardless of what team you're in. And I do think he could be the leader in terms of performances that Alpine need that they've

lost with a long-so. So if we get that version of this line up, I really think that Alpine can be very, very potent. almost the dark horse in terms of the actual constructors, of course, not a customer team, that could, in theory, produce a very good package. It's all under their own house. They can bring something in. So I think if you give Gassley that opportunity, he's the more than likely one to take home the World Championship than what are coming. So for me, very competitive. In third place, I've got different again from Harry, I've got Ferrari, and it's Carlos Sites and lets down this partnership over Charles LeCler. While we've got Godlerclair, no longer Moses,

in that line up. You know, he's fixed himself. The guy is a sensational talent, such raw talent. Carlos Sykes is so inconsistent at the moment, especially in a Ferrari. In McLaren,

he was really quite inspired. He did a great job. He wasn't very good at Renno. Went to McLaren, when it did really, really well, gone to Ferrari, beat the Clare in that first gear.

I would say almost like a technicality. You know, it kind of fell his way and he was just kind of there to pick up the pieces. Like, hey, that's not a bad thing. No meat feat about it. Well done him.

But then he was pretty much ruined the second year. when the tides were equal, you know, and there was, you know, the ability from both sides to do everything they needed to. I guess it's exciting to step it up. I want to see more from Carlos sides. I think Caring that knocks him off the top two.

Second place is Red Bull. I think Perez knocks him off the top spot. Max Verstappen is the 100% Formula One driver right now on this grid. He is the best driver on the grid currently in current form. Please don't mistake that. I think he's better than Lewis Hamilton.

Across his entire career, everyone listening. But first is Maseghis. I think across, as a law of average, two drivers, Hamilton and Russell, bring more than any other partnership across the entire grid. So there's my list. Macarang, Alpine, Ferrari, Red, bought them the same. All right. Fifth place for me is the Aston Martin duo, so I kind of alluded to this when I gave Alpine sixth. I don't think there's much between them. They're the complete opposite. So whereas Alpine is incredibly consistent, you would think with those two drivers, Astor Martin, all jokes aside,

you've got one great driver and one not so great driver. I mean, Lanchstrol is below average, quite considerably below average. People seem to think that he's all right, but who's he better than? Like, outside of Sonoda and Joe, like, who else is there that he's better than? That's harsh on show. It's a debate, like, maybe, but even so, like, you can't, there's not a long list of drivers who were there last year, who you can say, Strong's better than. But Alonzo, of course, had such a good 2022 that for me, if he settles in well at Aston Martin,

that's the biggest question mark for this team. That puts them just about fifth over Alpine from my side. Fourth, I've got Norris and Piastri at McLaren. If Oscar Piaastri is as great as his junior record indicates he might be, the gap between fourth, the top four and the rest of the grid, is pretty massive. in my opinion. But that's dependent on it if Piastri lives up to what he could be. Because we haven't seen him, you can't put him any higher than fourth on this list, really. And we know what Landon Norris is all about. Third place, I've got the Ferrari duo of Leclair and Sines.

I actually think there are a couple teams on this grid that have a really complementary lineup. Ferrari is one of them, in my opinion, because you've got Leclair, who got Leclair, as Sam has already called him. He's very good. He's very good, but he's very flashy, right? I mean, if you're going to call him anything, it would probably be flashy. And he's capable and quite often delivers moments of brilliant. Carlos Sines, I think, is very solid and he's very consistent,

which I think complements Leclair's style quite well. LeClau's capable of putting in really a banging qualifying laps, right? And then you've got Carlos Sines who is more steady and I think it's slightly better in terms of strategy and sometimes arguing back with Ferrari in terms of, I don't think we should do that. Maybe we should do this. Leclair tends to go along with the team, which in fairness is usually the right way to do it, but it's Ferrari, so it's not. Top two, I've got the same top three lineup as Sam has got. I've got Red Bull in second here. Yeah, I think overall, if I had to choose between Perez and signs, I would say they're pretty much even, in my opinion.

So it's Vestappen that puts, who is, I think, better than LeCler, I think puts them above the Ferrari lineup. First of all, Perez is great. Don't let Vestappan fool you on this. Perez is a great driver. So even though Vestappen is doing a job on Perez over the last couple of years, he's still okay in the F1, all right? And Vestappen, I don't need to say much about him. He's very good, did he? but Russell and Hamilton at Mercedes is for me the best duo

because I think it's the only duo that has two elite drivers in it. Perez is part of the very good category. I think Sides is part of the very good category. But I think Mercedes is the only duo where I can honestly say, I think both of them are elite. Really the way Harry phrased this is the exact same way I was going to in that Hamilton has a case for being the best of all time. and Russell beat him last year.

So it's a pretty good lineup. It's almost the same logic we use for worst driver of the day. We'll say this person was utterly terrible, did this, this, this and this. And his teammate lost by 30 seconds, and it's got to be him. It's the same sort of upward version of this for best lineup because Hamilton is so good

and Russell was there with him in his first year at Mercedes. So yeah, they're my number one. Before we close off this topic, I have a hypothetical for you. And it is really hypothetical because there's literally no way this can ever happen. I'll go to both of you on this one for an answer, but I'll go to your first son. If McLaren had two Lando Norrises, where would they rank on this list for you? It's a very good question.

And one I was actually giving some thought of if you were to say, yes, what? Well, there's one of them in there, mate. Oh, right. Yeah. I can't clone people. It's not legally okay, really. Yeah, let's say Piaski matched Lando Norris in every capacity, right? Yeah, he was basically another Lando.

I would think they have a very strong argument for second comfortably. And if you were to debate me, why shouldn't they be first? I would listen to you. I wouldn't necessarily agree. I think Hamilton tips the scale was quite comfortably because of his previous experience. And I think it's Perez that basically means. that two Norrises would sit above a Verstappen and Perez, but if you were to have two Verstappings,

then that would go to first. So for me, they have a very strong debate for second, and I would hear you out if you said first. I wouldn't agree with you, though. I think second is as far as they would go. What would you say to that question, Harry? I'd say, how did you get two Lando Norrisis? But we've established that's not possible.

I agree. I think I'd go for second there. I don't think, I mean, yeah, I'd listen to your debate, whatever, but I don't think it would be enough. for first. It still doesn't be the Hamilton. Hamilton Russell would

line up. But two, look, it's, well, I had McLaren in fourth. Well, did we have McLaren in fourth?

I was fifth. Yeah. Fourth or fifth. Anyway, top five. And that's with a driver who's not even raced in F1 yet.

So I think that speaks volumes about that, the strength of that, well, the strength of Landoahs, but also the strength and potential strength of that lineup.

So, yeah, it could be this time, next year, once we know what Piaastri is like in F1, that they could, that line up could well be in second place anyway. So, yeah, I agree with what Sam said there. Yeah, to be honest, to answer my own question, I largely agree with both of you. I would have them clearer of Ferrari and third. I would have them shorter the Mercedes first, and then Red Bull is the debate. So I would either go second or third. That's a tough one. But it's interesting because it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it,

obviously a hypothetical having two Lando Norris is in the car. But actually, the way you've framed the question, Sam is arguably the better way of framing it in terms of if Oscar Piastri lives up to his potential and how early that is, where could they get to? There's a lot of potential in that team, a lot of potential. Just get the money car right, lads. Yeah. Come on, McLaren.

Hey, Zach. Get the car right, mate. Renault. There's enough for driver lineups. We'll take a short break and we're going to be the car. discussing some comments from Sam's favorite character of all time, French toast. Way. Tasty.

All right, for the avoidance of any doubt whatsoever, I know I've mentioned his name twice, but only called him French Toast on both occasions. We are talking about Franz Tost here, the boss of Alfort Tauri. I'm sure Lewis Hamilton will be keen to know who that is. That is actually a reference. It's not just a random comment. He had some comments about Mick Schumacher.

and the potential for having him at Alpha Tauri. Speaking to RTL, Tos said that I would have actually liked to have had Mick in the car. He said he was convinced that Mick is talented and that he has what it takes to drive successfully in F1. So obviously he's saying he would have liked him. That was presumably an option for him as well, Sam. So do you think that they made the right decision in not taking Mick Schumacher? Should it have been something that they went down? Oh, just give Franz his own racing team.

He's such a good team principle, isn't he? Everyone just loves him so much. Honestly, he's so good at nurturing driver talent. I actually think that if you were to allow Mitch Schumacher's in time under Old French Toast, he would crisp up quite nicely. No, he'd be a fantastic young driver. I do think that he just look at the talent he's had to deal with, right? He's dealt with Carlos Sykes. He's dealt with Daniel Ricardo.

He's dealt with Max Verstappan. He's dealt with so many brilliant. protegees in Formula One, more recently, the likes of Ghazley, Albin. The guy knows what he's doing with young talent, and I think Mick Schumackett has, in theory, you know, the door in his abilities there, it just gives a key to unlock whatever is behind that door. And I do think that with the right nurturing environment, I think Mick would work very, very well in a nurturing environment, not a harsh environment, not a hardcore, balls to the wall,

get your performances on the track, get it done, or I'm not happy. Good for Steyner's going to slag you off or drive to survive, you know. I don't think he works for him in that, I'm very much the same. I need a little cuddle. I need a, are you all right, Sam, you did okay, you got your breakfast,

a cup of tea. I think me and Mick are the same every single time in that case. If someone shouts at me, I'm going, I don't want to get up. You know, like when Homer's in the womb in that Simpsons episode, he's having a lovely time, and he's all warm.

He's like, I don't want to get out. And it's like, it was all warm. That's what I think. me and Mick Schumacher unlike. And I think that Schumacher at Alpha Tauri, this is a weird tangent, would actually be a really positive story. And I think I would take Mick over Nick.

I think Nick is too far into, thank you, is too far into his open wheel racing career. I think his time has come and gone for Formula One. If you're that good, if you're that good, and you've been the reserve driver and test driver for Gogh how many teams up and down the grid, someone takes a punt and gives you a, a chance. But I think this was more

than negotiating power of Toto Wolf, keeping him in the different groups going around until he got a chance, then actually his raw ability. So I would have given Mick a go. And what's Red Bull really got to lose? Put him in the team for a couple of years. If he doesn't perform,

you bring up an F2 driver alongside Mick, who's already got two years in the sport. For me, I go Mick over Nick. Yeah, that's really what this segment should have been called Mick or Nick. Sorry, well that, I've missed a trick there. Yeah, get on that, someone. What was your thoughts, Sarri, on this one?

Would you have taken Mick Schumacher if he was available? I mean, he was available, I guess. Well, presumably he was. Yeah, we clearly assume that. Yeah, look, it's an interesting comment this from, it's an interesting comment from Franz Tots, because it's almost like saying, like defending, like, not defending himself,

but he's taking responsibility away from himself. for having Nick to freezing the team was like, look, that wasn't my choice. I don't want him. That was an aim on the piece of paper I wrote down, lads. What will we do? Just got your hand, right?

Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, interesting comment. And clearly, I don't know what the reason needs, but something political going on there. Because I'm with Sam, I think the obvious, if the choice is Mick or Nick, I'm going Mick because why would you not go for the guy

Look, he's had a tough couple of years at Haas But he's still got two years in F1 And Nick DeFries has got a race in F1 I think I know who I'm going to take And as Sam said like Nick's old man He's not that old, he's literally at our age But he's 27 The same age as me, leave me alone

It's just about older than you, I think I think he's, I think we're born very close together actually I'll go look at it up why you talk. You might be February. Ancient. Ancient then. Yeah, look. And he's, yeah, so he won F2 a long time ago, 2016, I think he won the championship.

So, yeah, I think it, for me, not a slam dunk, but I think I don't know what choice I would have made. And it seems to be that Franz knew the choice he wanted to make, but wasn't allowed to make that choice, which is an odd one, I'm sure. find out the answer one day. Because, yeah, as Sam said, why, you keep him in the car for a year or two years, but nurture him and maybe get some more results out of a Mick. But anyway, it's the way it's gone.

Hansa gone, hasn't gone Schumacher's way, it's gone to freeze his way. But I think it wasn't the right call. He's a month older than me. He's the sixth of fair. I'm the 10th of March. Good Lord, that is old. I must bring chicken in comparison Don't you're about?

Exactly, you've always got that over him Hopefully for your sake And for really all three of our sake He'll be an F1 for like 15 years So we can always say that Oh, well, he's older than us That's why I'm hoping Alonzo just sticks around forever So true

So Alonso's like my dad Just looks amazing for their age But actually it's like, how are you still going? I thought Alonzo's your dad? Yeah, what revelation behind that one? Simon saying, he just takes off his wig every time he goes home and he just speaks singing

Essex accent. He'll enjoy that. I mean, in terms of Nick DeVries, I've voiced my concerns before on the podcast about Nick DeVries and I won't do too much more damage to him as I'm sure he's devastated by my previous comments. Nice. No Carlos DeVries. And I think the performance in Italy whilst it was strong, it was certainly overhyped

for one race. So we'll see how he gets on this year. What shocked me actually is that Nick DeVries and Mick Schumacher, their junior careers are really similar. There is a lot of similarities between them. So, for example, they both won championships. So Nick DeVries won European, he won Formula Redo in 2014. He won F2, as Harry mentioned. He won that in 2019.

And then he won Formula E a couple of years ago as well. So he's won three championships in the space of about nine years, as Nick. and then you go to Schumacher. He won F3 European Championship in 2018 and then he won F2 in 2020. So both have won championships and what connects all five of those championships that the two of them have collectively won?

None of them were won in the first year. They were all won in either the second or in a couple of instances, the third year. So there's a lot of similarities between the two of them apart from one thing. Well, Mick's been in F1 before. Two things then. But one key thing.

thing that separates Mick Schumacher in Nick DeVries. Mick Schumacher is currently one year younger than Nick DeVries was when he won F2. There's, I think, just over five years between the two of them. So when you consider that, it's a big difference. They were basically achieving the same thing in junior formulae, but Mick was doing it far younger than Nick was. And that's my concern with Nick DeVries. I'm pretty sure he will do a competent job when it comes to Formula One. But why do Al-Fa-Tarri need that? They don't need someone to come in and do a competent job. They need someone to come in who might well be the future

of their team. And I don't see Nick DeFries being that. Whether this was the right call or not, because Mick Schumacher didn't particularly impress in 2022. So I wouldn't have blamed them for passing up both of the options, quite honestly. Between the two of them, I can respect the decision to go for the unknown here, the guy that you haven't seen in Formula One. I probably would have gone for the same as you two in terms of Mick over Nick. But honestly, neither option was fantastic in terms of my perception of this. And one of them has a 250K loan to repay, and one of them doesn't.

Yeah. Anyway, folks, that's being Mick or Nick, who you go on the pick. Oh, that was slick. Oh! How many more boxes do you want a tick with that one? That was just lovely. You're a... Oh. You just got to edit yourself. You just cause work for yourself. We did.

And maybe I'm... Oh, heck. Just cause more work for yourself. I don't swear on this show for you. Should we take a quick break? We'll come back. Is everything okay, Ben? I just feel like we could do with a quick break,

couldn't we? Let's all calm down. It's all got a bit out of control, isn't it? Simmer down. Simmer down. A rarely spotted F2 topic is coming up next. Before we get into the... All right.

I can't be mad, you've got notes I don't have notes I can be mad No, I can't even mad at you because you actually did notes for a topic Like that's progress, isn't it? All right, before we get into the Formula 2 field Just a quick note that we do have a Patreon account

I absolutely appreciate everyone who's already on there And anyone who considers joining You get a free monthly topic This month's topic is going to be looking at the controversy with the FIA versus F1, $20 billion F1 is worth, right? Ben Suleem's like,

nah, it's entertaining. We'll be discussing it on the Patreon. And that's a very quick summary. We'll probably go into more depth on that one. No, that's the topic. Yeah, probably not actually. Formula 2 field. So with J.N. Deruval are being confirmed

to MP Motorsport a couple of days ago. It now means that all of the 24 drivers in Formula 2 are confirmed. We don't normally talk about Formula 2 all that often on this podcast, but it's good to bring it around once in a while because, hey, we're looking at the next generation of Formula 1 here. Sam, if you're looking at the 24 drivers that are set to compete, are there any that stand out for you as the favourites, or any should be the favourites? Yeah, I've got four games after doing my research. And Ben, as you tend to be the distributor will call you, would you like all four games with reasoning?

Or would you like me to give one and then go away? Go with all four. All right, okay. Name number one. I'm looking at my phone, folks, because again, I've got notes. You can't see me, so I don't really go why it matters. Number one, Taylor, it's the one that we speak about all the time. Now, the kid has been a sensation in his junior career already.

And he's what, 19 years old currently is it is already. He's the junior driver for Alfa Romeo. And I don't think he's 20-22 season really lived up to maybe full form as to what he's ready for. He maybe got beaten by a couple of drivers that he should have beating himself. But I think he's going to, I think this is the final year that he's got, really,

to make it or take it. And so I reckon that Porsche basically to use that motivation to go, this is my one chance to get into a Formula One car. I've got a wing or become very, very close to it. The next game on the list is the first of the Red Bull junior drivers that I think are in this cascary that are absolute sensations.

And that is Denghis Hager. Now, Denghis Hager is, Fantastic. What's worrying me about Dengis, who's had a great junior career, is that he's moving away from Prima. And Prima traditionally are the givers of championships in junior formulas. Very often, if you're with Prima ring, F3, F2, you have a very strong chance of taking home that title. The good thing for Denghis Tauer is he's moving into fully play Dragobich, his old seat, and he just won the F2 title. So if you're going to move anywhere, theoretically, that's the seat you're going to want to go into. So quite happy he's moving to there.

strong talent. It's still very young. And I really think that, you know, he's already won F3. In theory, now he's had a year to set of an F2. He could go on to win that title. The third game on the list is old Jack Duhin, the name that basically came into the conversation around Alpine when we didn't know if Gassley was getting to sea, alongside it already been turfed out, you know, Piastri was in the world's largest legal battle, apparently. Jack Duhn has had a very successful junior career, not mind-blowingly good, but he's been a very, very good junior driver. One that will make a very consistent Formula One driver,

but he needed to go ahead and wing F2 this season, I think, to really cement any kind of doing so in Formula 1. I think he came sixth last year in Formula 2 in his debut season. I also think he was the runger up in F3 in 2021. So good results, you know, not sensational, but good results. You've got to look at people like, you know, Albon, for example. They didn't win F2. He came third.

I think he did in his junior season. So you can go ahead and make yourself a very good Formula 1. career by not winging these junior formulas, Jack doing in theory, could go one step further than that. The final driver, who I think is maybe the outside look, is for me, is Zane Maloney, the other newest Red Bull junior driver. Basically, they had a really, really good time in F3, of course, and they had one racing F2 last season when I think they finished like 15th across that first weekend, which because it was their first time in a car, really, really good demonstration of what they could do.

going on we settle into the team. They're in Carling as well, another team that if you want to be part of the junior formulas, Carl is a team to be involved with. They're going to take you much further with that. So I do think that Zain Maloney, one of the youngest of the people on the list, the same as, as, as, as, as Hauga. I think realistically, have got a great performance. Red career ahead of them. He just needs to jump on that momentum and ensure that basically he wings as soon as possible and isn't in that junior formula for three, four years, which some people like to stick around for them, not going on games, but some people do like to be there for that long. Roy.

Yeah, sorry, Roy. Anyway, they're the four that I think for me. There are a couple of others that I think you guys might mention that I think a very, very good shouts that I've just missed it off my list. But they're the four for me that I think are probably going to be the ones fighting out the top. Yeah, I mean, from my side, the leading candidate has to be Teo Porcher, not only because of his overall ability, but if you look at last season, you know, he's the highest returning driver in terms of championship position. He was a runner up in in 2022. He was fifth in 2021.

And I think with, you know, with Logan Sargent going up and obviously he was in the gap between Porsche and the rest of the returning field. So I think Porcère is, Porcère is going to be the favorite here. What's going to be difficult for Teo Porcère is that there is, at least I think, a lot more pressure on him this year than there has been in any previous year. so often Porsche has been fighting upwards in terms of his age. He's always been so talented that he's been racing against drivers who are older than him. He came into Formula 2, I think as a 17-year-old.

He came into Formula 3. He just turned 15 or 16. So he was really young in these categories. But suddenly, with this being his, he's kind of done two and a half seasons of F2, him coming into this year now at 19 years old, there's a few F3 drivers that have come up that are only 17. So suddenly he's not the young upstart challenging drivers older than him. So I think it puts pressure.

And ultimately, I think he writes something, it kind of has to happen this year. And anything other than a championship win, he will view as a disappointment. If he finishes second, he will not view that as a good season. It's not a great season. So a lot of pressure on him, but he should be the favourite.

I have a couple of similar names to Sam actually. So Jack Dewitt is also on the list. He seems to, I think he was pretty unlucky last year, actually. He has good consistency, which I think is helpful within the Formula 2 lineup. And Doan as well, there's a couple of this list that follow this pattern. But Dewen had a pretty slow start to the year. And he won the, I think he won the sprint race at Silverstone, which was the turning point in his year

because he picked up all of his wins after that point in the year, picked up some more podium. So if he could take that momentum forward into 23, he's got a good chance. How good that Sam has mentioned as well. He had a poor 2022. But as you say, Sam,

he won Formula 3 the year before that. He is moving away from Pramer, but generally I think it's better to be with Pramer in F3 than it is in F2. There are more options in F2, and you've already made the point that I was going to make. where he's going is a pretty good position for him.

And, you know, he didn't do great last, I think he finished 10th last year, but a name that's already come on this podcast, Mick Schumacher, was worse off in his first year of F2 and then won it the next year. So it's not impossible for him to turn it around and win the championship. The other returning guy that I would mention is Ayubo Iu Issa, Red Bull Jr. Similar to doing, he came on strong in the second half of the year. the last six feature races of the year, he won two of them and had four podiums. So he came on really strong in the second half of the year.

If he carries that on, I think he'll be a contender. Maloney's a good shout in terms of the F3 guys that are coming up. I'll add two more names into the mix. Ollie Berman, 17 years old. I think he finished third in F3 last year. That bodes very well. And the other one is Victor Martins. I mean, he won the championship in F3.

he is older but I think even if his F1 prospects aren't as good as some of the other drivers he'll be racing against I think in terms of winning a championship in F2 he's probably got a better chance from the off but I'd go with the initial four names that I mentioned what about from your side Harry

I've done a huge amount of research on this it will shock you to know so I'm just going to do this based on vibes is that alright mate it's how you live your life based on vibes But to be fair, the brief research I did do, all the names you've already said were on my list.

They're in shock. The only one I, the hasn't been said, I'm unsure about this, but his name's got Leclair in it. So Arthur Leclair, he's had a slightly iffy. I don't care, mate. I'm going with the vibes. Can we make a social post out of this, please? Harry's F2 predictions based entirely old vibes.

Well, you're going to be so mad when Arthur LeClo is 2023 F2, watcham. He's got some all right pace. That's my point. He's not, he wouldn't come above people like Thetaub or chair, maybe Zay Maloney, etc. But I, you know, I'm chucking him in as a bit of a wild card. Obviously, Royness, aren't he?

This is his year, right? I am surprised that no one's mentioned old. Our bestie, Frederick Besty. Is he our bestie? He might be. If you want to start on the podcast. I have very little else to add from what you've already said. The names you've already said,

Dennis Hauger, yeah. If I had to pick one, I would have said, I would go putcher. I think he's probably my top vote. And if he wants to, if he wants to be an F1, I think he's got to,

like you say, he's got to do it this year. So, You're welcome. Harry's F2 Insights comes to an end. Based on vibes. Wow. A lot of vibes in that. Speaking of vibes,

back and forth is a vibe, isn't it? Oh, get that theme running. So, Vimy. Back and forth, it's F1. Back and forth, it goes backwards. Then goes forth, it's F1. back and forth

F1 just slaps it slaps hard F1 back and forth it's a fairly simple concept Harry versus Sam in a battle of wits so there is a category

with a number of correct answers there's 18 correct answers in this category today they will go back and forth with correct answers until one of them cannot think of anything or gives a wrong answer And today's category is this.

Again, 18 correct answers. I want the name of any team in F1 history that has won eight or more races. So I would imagine you can probably start out pretty quick on these, but it might get a bit more difficult as we head towards the latter end of this list. Any team that has won eight or more races in F1 history, Harry, kick us off.

Mercedes Yeah they have won more than eight races In fact they've won 125 Which puts them third all time Sam Ferrari Ferrari 242 race wins That is the most in F1 history

Harry Red Bull Red Bull they've got 92 victories that puts them fifth all time Some Williams Williams, they are fourth with 114 race wins. We're wrapping through. Come on.

Love it this. McClaren. And that's the top five complete. 183 race victories for them. 13 to go, Sam. Renault. Renaud. 35 race wins is good.

Seventh place on the list. Oh, no. That's all good. All right. Loat. And that's the sixth place team on the list. 79 race victories for them. Sam.

Brabham. Brabham is, well, I say eight. They've got the same as Renae. 35 for them as well. Oh. Scatman. All right. Is it eight or more?

Eight or more. Eight or more. There's one team on this list that has exactly eight. Is it Braun? Yeah, they've got exactly eight. Oh, nice. Cheaky boys. Anyway, yeah, exactly eight race wins for Broad in their lone season.

So that very much ruins the whole going down the list, but it's a correct answer, so it doesn't matter. Sam? Benetton. Benetton is a correct answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to do any suspense there. I just couldn't find it on the list. 27 race wins for them, Harry. Nice.

Lotus. You've already said that in moral. I was too busy thinking on how many wins Braun had. You said Lotus. I didn't say Lotus. Yeah, you didn't. When did I say Lotus?

Like the fifth answer you gave. After Sam said Renaud. I'm having a stroke, apparently. Lotus have the sick most wins. They have 79. Can I say it again? No. Lotus?

You can have to give another answer. Okay. Don't say Ferrari, please. Let's say, no. Brabham? I've said Brabham. Help me. What is on the list?

That's so funny. Okay. Okay. Harry, these ones have been said. Brad. I'm right down. Benetton, Brabham, Renno, Lotus, Red Bull, Williams, Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari. You can't say any of those.

Oh, God. Okay. Tyrol? Tyrell, yeah, that's the next most on the list with 23, which leaves us with seven correct answers left, Sam. Going way back in the history books for this one. I'm hoping Big Fangio is going to help me out on this one. Maserati.

Maserati is a correct answer with nine. Yeah. Oh, snuck it in. Harry. Alpha Romeo. Yeah, Alpha Romeo just about got to double digits. And I'm sure they'll improve on that in this 2023 season. They've got 10.

A couple of Botties. Yeah, Botties is the boy. Five left. I reckon, oh, big racing machines has got to be an answer. Ferb. Furb? Yeah, BRM's a correct answer. 17 race wins in their career.

Come on. Four left. How many else could we get? I'm struggling now. Harry. I'm struggling now. Brabham? Oh, I thought you were serious.

You got me there. You could have been being serious there. You really could have been. I know. I was about a shout at you. What about Lotus? Have we said Ferrari? Could we just double check?

We've said Mercedes. You know that diagram that goes around social media once every six months? Here's all the constructors that are one world titles. That's all the badges year by year. That is what my brain is now running through to try and remember those left over. It's a really good tactic. I can't really think of any. I'm assuming Ben, as a clue,

they're all quite far back in history now. Yeah. Well, I'm thinking that. He's not telling us, folks, he's an ass. You're an ass, Ben. Yeah, you have to go back a bit for these. Oh, I don't really know. All right.

Van Wall? Van Wall's a good shout. Yeah, just about. Nice. Nine race victories for Van Wall. Sam. Oh, it's on me now. Oh, God.

Three left. Brabham. Abbey said Brabham. The one I had in mind while Harry was repeating the same answers was it's a French name so I'm getting a say it wrong

Bramou Ferrari was it Ligier Ligier yeah They had nine race wins in the 70s and 80s And Pannis Sorry don't forget about Olivier Pernas

Big old pangis. We can agree to forfeit here, Harry. Two to go. I don't know anymore. I've got nothing left. I've got nothing left. I've only got one left, but I don't know. I've got one that's a total, total pose.

If you say Brabham, I swear to God. Is it Jack Brabham? No, I don't know. I'll throw in a towel. You're going to throw in the towel? Yeah, I think I've got nothing left, really. I've got nothing left. All right.

There were just two left, pretty good efforts. Ben, was one of them before you, were the one of them, Cooper? Oh, that's the one I had in my mind, but I did not feel any certainty. Well, then I might be wrong. But you lose by not saying it. That's a real shame. Ben, I'm, was the other one Matra? Yeah, the other one was Matra.

Jackie Stewart getting some wins in the late 60s. Yeah, so top tip, I thought this was a simple game. If you think you have a right answer, say it. If it's already being said, don't say it again. Also a good top tip for this game.

Oh, so no, there was 19. You missed the other one. Lotus. Got him We've had enough Play the jingle F1 Back and forth

It's F1 Back and forth It goes backwards Then goes forth It's F1 Back and forth F1 Sam

I'm going to do you Goders It's that time of the week LB Quash Gang of the week Thank you very much. Question of the week was, what would each of our signature dance moves be called?

There really is no rhyme and reason behind these questions. It's whatever pops into my head usually. So what would each of our signature dance moves be called? Sam, anything that stands out for you? Once again, the level of creativity in these is absolutely brilliantly. Bram at Orange, the King, I assume that means Orange Burger King on Twitter has said

that Sam will have the Chibugi which is basically the boogie but he mispranaged it and now it haulsed for the rest of his life and Harry you didn't get one but Ben got La Sanborn Ney where the soundboard didn't work and he throws it at Harry to plies his frustration and then hugs his

abacus which I think it's more of a story thing of darts but I loved it nonetheless Riley Cormac Ardala Sain 1999 great name Harry, the fake sitting fiesta, Sam, the sages sausage salsa, and Ben, nothing original, just a mildly mundane, awkward gangam style.

It sounds so like the three of us. I've got a lot of sausages going on here, which is brilliant, which I really appreciate. Ben loves doing the Stackman shuffle. That's from Craig. I absolutely love that as well. And then Asiah down at the bottom here on Twitter simply said that Harry should do the microwave. Now, I don't know if, imagine Harry sat on the dance floor. and going,

boom, and holding his arms out, and spinging around in a circle, going hum. But those are some of my favorites on Twitter. I haven't had a chance to look at Instagram yet, because on the hot spot. But anyway, over to you, boys.

I got a few from Instagram. Firstly, the one that made me laugh the most is from, I'm pretty sure, the same person who made me laugh the most last week. So this person's sensitive humor has clearly got me. Right, Ryan Matthew 85, The Running Out of Questions Dance. there might be some truth in that

so there are so many good ones it's difficult to know which ones to actually say Kay Holler and this was a good one Sam is the Humberg swing Harry was the gammon slide and mine was the

Spag Bowl Tango I love that the Spag Bowl Tango Retro Goffin who is on Instagram but he's also in our Discord he's just put Harry the fence and then in brackets

just stands there lightly swaying having seen Harry dance so true Panto Blatt's the George Russell hustle for me I like that I really like Riley coming in with the Michael Massey Mambo a controversial and chaotic piece

inspired by the race protocol during the final half of Abu Dhabi card jam the British bias boogie Dark rings with the whirly thanks post That's a great combination of loves and interests on this The Spag Bowl What was that even in tail? I know Live in some place and said the sausage swing

The pedantic poker or the ding disco Again Bizarre but wonderful Honestly you guys come up with some great answers They're only funny to us I'm actually hilarious to us I made an awful mistake yesterday, like walking to work, and I went through someone read them. And I was just

laughing in the street and people were looking at me like, what earth is this guy on? And I'm just there wetting myself. It's great. People do look at Ben like that, whether he's laughing or not. So, you know, that's not necessarily about the podcast. Yeah, loved it. Great question this week. And we'll put out another question, of course, next week. Love you to get involved on Instagram, on Twitter. We're trying our best to put it out roughly. at the same time on a on a late on a Monday UK time. It depends when we remember. But we'll try our best to stick to that for the most part.

If you've got any questions that you'd like ask as well, could be random, could be serious. It's okay to have a debate one, I guess. Maybe not. Either send them in on socials, in our DMs or at us, or get in the Discord and let us know as well as a bit of a podcast topic as a suggestion because we'd love to hear from you as well. And that is not your only potential to get involved.

with the podcast because for the first time in probably about eight years by the time we get there we're actually doing a Friends of the podcast episode coming up very shortly and we're looking for any questions that you might want to pose to harriet oh hold on hold on hold on oh do you want to do the drum right there we go anthony davidson who he's not someone you've not heard of we know him And for those of you who, A, don't watch Sky F1 or can't, and B, didn't watch F1 before 2008, he used to be an F1 driver, and he's now a pundit on Sky F1.

And he's been Mercedes what development driver for years. He still is. He was in an Instagram video just now. I saw it. The guy is incredibly well-known, incredibly talented in knowledge from when he comes to Formula One. He's also a good laugh. So get your questions in, check out the interview. It's going to be a good one.

be a really, really good one. He drove a super agree. Yeah, I mean, that's what we do. To us, he's a cult hero. Really looking forward to that. So we're recording that very shortly, not 100% for exactly when it will go out to the masses, but hopefully very soon. The Michael Masses.

The Michael Masses. So, yeah, get your questions in. We've already asked the question on Discord, but feel free to get in touch with us, basically, wherever you want to, and we'll consider adding that in. Sam, if you wouldn't mind, though, getting us out of here. Folks, thank you for joining us for another episode with the Late Breaking F1 podcast, and sticking with us throughout this winter break. Of course, I think by the time we do the next episode,

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