The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Is Leclerc too IMPULSIVE? + Q&A!

Episode Date: August 20, 2023

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Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. And a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. We are not too far away from the Dutch Grand Prix that will resume the Formula One season, but in the meantime, we do have one more episode before our preview midweek. And of course, as alluded to on our last episode, it's a Q&A episode. I'm not going to sing again.

You'll put me out with jump, mate. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, I don't think we need a Q&A jingle, but we are coming off the back of another recording we've just done. We've just done a Patreon episode. So Sam, are you ready for round two? Are you ready? Are you ready for round two? Yes, I am.

Yes, I am. I was going to be really disappointed if you finish that with no. Oh, yeah, that would be classic Harry Bandit. Just go, no. It would be. Oh, it's a great input from our real gang, right at the start of a new show. It's a good thing we've got a lot of questions because, you know, we can use as many as possible if we're getting answers like that.

Firstly, before we get into any questions on this episode, a massive thank you to everyone who submitted them, because there were way more than we thought they were going to, like way, way, way more than we thought they were going to be. So if you don't hear your question asked, at least take solace in the fact that you're probably in the 80% that aren't getting their questions read because there were that many. There were a lot of good questions that are unfortunately not going to be able to make it today. But thank you to everyone who use the various platforms to submit something. And just to say, we'll kick off with a bit of Q&A. We'll then discuss a bit of sharp.

a color, because why not? And then we'll go back to some more Q&A before we end with F1 higher or lower. Right. Ben, before we get into the questions. I think we're about to do the same thing, Sam. Yeah, can we just do an announcement about the live show we're doing?

No. Question what. Folks, we have sold many a ticket over on Patreon in the pre-sell of our live show, which is taking place on the Thursday before the US GP in Texas, Austin, Texas. Now, it's Sunday the 20th of August. As I say this, it's really not.

But it is when you're listening. So that means that the general sale for our tickets has gone live. And I urge you, if you're going to be there, firstly, more tickets have gone than we've thought. There are still plenty of tickets to get, but a lot less than we ever thought they were going to be. So don't walk, run to the link, which is in the description, to purchase your tickets.

You know, there's going to be merch to wing. There's going to be games to play. You will be getting involved in the games. The famous games that you hear on this show, you will be playing. There's a free drink with your ticket as well on entry, and there's some great food places nearby as well. Plus, you get to chill out with us, chill out on our late breakies,

the August 1 talk, F1, and you'll have a grand old evening on the Thursday. Is there anything else, folks, that I've missed? Harry will be there. I will be there. I will be there. it will be the best night of your entire life. And you get the Harry stamp of a guarantee on that one.

So I'm handing them out as you walk in the door. Stamping your hand. Stamping your hand. Best time of your life. Like no entry if you leave. Best time of your life. Bang. Yeah.

Yeah. You can't come back in if they get your stamp. If you come along. If you come along. is not the best night of your life, Harry Ead on Twitter, make sure you tag him and let him know your dissatisfaction. But let's go on with the Q&A. We've got some varied questions on this because some of them are serious. Some of them are the furthest thing from serious you can possibly get. There are some that were way too unsurious to even think about including,

you know who you are. Right. One of the ones we got, I'm sorry, I'm not going to mention it, But it was absolutely atrocious. Disgusting. Have a look at yourself because, honestly. You know who you are as well. No, come on, you can't be asking that. We're going to start with a question from Instagram. We'll start with Evelyn DeMonte, who has asked,

what is each of our favorite races of all time and why? Harry, what's yours? Oh, blimey. I don't think I could ever narrow it down to just one race. 2005 Japanese Grand Prix. That's a bloody classic. Good fun. Because I'm a bit of a bit, I am a Shumaka fan boy.

2006 Brazilian GP, which is an odd one because he retires at the end of it. and he also doesn't win his eighth title, but just his, that whole, that whole race for him because he got his puncture and then had to fight, fight his way back. Love that race.

So those are two, two standout ones. I'm trying to think if there are any slightly more modern ones that I would attest to. I'm trying to think like 2012, a 20th season was just good. General of it. All of, all of 2012.

one other one, just because it was my first ever race, would be 2003 British GP. That'll be my top three races I'll pick. That's a pretty good one as well. Thanks. Certainly, I know I've made this point at some point on the podcast about the 2005 Japanese Grand Prix,

but I will say it again. And I'm not saying this was the case with all races back in the Nauties because their DRS would have improved quite a few races, I think, at that time. but the Japanese Grand Prix 2005 is probably a six out of ten race if the

RS is included. Agreed. Agreed. Sam, what are you going for? Yeah, again, much like Harry, I really struggle to nail this down and folks, if you've been a long-time listening of the podcast, you'll know that my memory

fails me nine times out of ten anyway. And the two that stuck out to me when I thought about this question was the 2012 Brazilian Grand Prix, as Harry mentioned, 2012 was just great, but, you know, button-winging, Vessel fighting back through. It topped off what was arguably

one of the best seasons we've ever seen in Formula One. It was a really, really good Grand Prix. And then, oh, I wait, Hamilton, Massa at Brazil, again, with that Glock moment, is just so embedding in my mind that I remember being just 13 years old. Yeah, Brazil is incredible, obviously, absolutely sensational,

but I remember being 13 years old, and as much as I followed Formula One, I think maybe from 05, 06 was when I was fully throwing myself into watching every Grand Prix. And I really, that's the first thing I really truly remember of being like, yep, this is me. I am hooked into this baby for the rest of my life. And that moment where, you know, Glock gets past, everything is so historically there that I think that stands out. So pretty between those two, but there are quite a few others that 2014 Canada was quite good by both and saying he's glitched out. Canada has also delivered some bangers recently. 05, Japan was fantastic, as you mentioned.

But yeah, Brazil generally. There's one I completely forgot about, but 2011 Canada, and mainly because it was an absolute chore. Not a chore, but it was a journey to get through that race because there was like two and a half hours of actual no racing that we had to wait around for. but what we got in the end was an absolute belter of a Grand Prix

with obviously Button winning on the last lap but yeah, I'll add that one to the mix as well. 2018 in China as well, I think is underrated with Ricardo cutting through the field to win at the end. I think it was a really underratedly good Grand Prix. I would go with 2012 Brazil as my answer in all honesty

for the reasons that you gave. It is a wonderful Grand Prix in a wonderful There are plenty of others from 2012 as well. You could select China. 2012 is actually pretty underrated, another Chinese Grand Prix that flies under the radar a little bit. But you can take your pick from that season, really. 05, Japan certainly would have been a mention from my side as well. To pick out another one from more recent times, 2019, Germany. Yeah. Is that where the Stamon won at Hoss? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one.

That was a fun race, wasn't it? And a bit of an underrated one, going a bit further back, France 1999 is one I like. Was that a Magliquere? That was a Magliquere, a Heinz-Herald Frensen win. Yeah, Arjunsing strikes a gang. He's back. There you, I think some varied answers in that, eh?

Right. What should we go to? next. We're going to go to, we'll go to LJL2685, a regular commenter again on Instagram. Would you rather see Hamilton at Ferrari or LeClair at Red Bull? Sam? I'd rather see Hamilton at Ferrari. I think for people that definitely grew up around our age group, you know, there is a very back-of-the-mind romanticisation. That's why I's, let that work go, folks. I remember that.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, of Ferrari and growing up with the red car, and I think seeing someone like Lewis Hamilton, another seven-time world champion, take a seat in the red car for just a season, there'd be a little part of me that would be quite warmed by seeing that combination, whereas I think the clerk at Red Bull,

as much as it would be great, I think it would be a multi-year thing that I want to see a whole journey, but of the one-season pick, Hamilton and a Ferrari, I think, would be, there'd be something about it. It'll be quite special. I'm going to give Harry the deciding vote on this because I'm going to go the other way.

I'd prefer to see LeCler in a Red Bull in that I don't actually care about seeing Hamilton in a Ferrari. In fact, I would actively not want to see it in that they can't do that to him. Not Lewis, not Hamilton. I would be very intrigued to see what LeCler would be able to do in a Red Bull. I wouldn't know how would he. stack up with Vostappen? Would it be level pegging? Would it be very close? Who knows at this point? But certainly it's been a long time since we've had two drivers in the same team really compete with one another throughout a full season. You would have to go back to Hamilton and Rosberg for the last

time that we've had it. And I think it's something that's generally been missing in the Bottas Hamilton and Perez Vestappan era that we've had over the last, say, six years or six years or So I'm going to go with Leclair and Red Bull. What about you, Harry? Sorry, Sam. I'm going to agree with Ben on this one, mainly just because I don't want Hamilton to go to Ferrari. Don't do it to the man. It's too cruel.

I can imagine how confused he would be after like one minute. And it'd be like, why do you do everything like this? It's all backwards. I mean, also, we know Hamilton is quite, he's one of those people that relies on, you know, Bono is always talking to him. strategy. Ferraro driving insane. Like he would not be able to, and not his own fault,

just I don't think he would cope there. He would just be on, what am I doing? So for that reason alone, I'd have Lecler and Rebel, but also because I'd love to see the Claire of the Stapin up against each other in the same car. That'd be, that'd be spicy. Why is the spicy?

Okay, we'll go from a, we'll go from a, very Formula One-centric couple of questions to something that certainly isn't Formula One specific. From Spotify, this one. This one comes in from Nick, asking, do other Brits regularly say sent for a bag of chips? From context, it seems akin to being mugged off, but what exactly does it mean?

Given how often we say it, it's probably worth explaining what it actually means. Sam, do you want to do that? Yeah, it is akin to being mugged off. where you get mugged off. It's kind of like, I'm trying to think of another way of phrasing being mugged off. It's like being embarrassed,

but like someone is embarrassing you or like you've been embarrassed by something. And being sent to the shucks. Yeah, you know, saying, Dan Oazda, you are literally, it is weird British slang terminology

for saying, yeah, we've mugged you off. You know, if, you know, if I were to, on the F1 game,

undercut Ben, and, you know, he muck up his exit. Then, yeah, I'll say it for an absolute bag of chips. It's when you kind of fool someone or lull them in and you go,

no, yoik, pull the rug out from beneath their feet. You know, you've been absolutely mugged off. Sent for a bag of chips is essentially our way of saying, I've mugged you off, mate. It's funny because... I love explaining British slang with more British slang. It's the only way you can do it. The thing is bag of chips is like that can be replaced

because you say it all's like, they say sent to the shops, sent them to the stands. There's all sorts you can put in. Several hot dog. Several hot dog, yeah. The three of us, We've got some weird lines. Like, whenever we play FIFA and we do a bad tacker,

which, you know, he's got a wife and kids. You know, you've got a cent of my family at home. You've taken his legs out. You know, we've got some, and we just say the same lines every time we do it. So hopefully that made it clearer. Or not. I would hope so. Let's go to, we'll stay with Spotify on the next one, and we'll go to Jay Bates,

who has done himself a lot of favours here by saying, I absolutely love your guy's podcast. It entertains me immensely. Thank you very much. What do you think are the chances of McLaren finishing in the top three next year? What do you think, Sam? I reckon about 60% chance. I think it's slightly more in their favour.

And I think they've got their act together faster than Ferrari. And so if they can maintain that momentum, then I think they can outdo Ferrari. I also think they're old hangs at the game. So I think that they could probably. outdo Ashton Martin as well there. I don't think longevity-wise they'll be able to out-do Moseaisei or Red Bull.

I think they are realistically going to be third. I don't think, you know, three fastest cars, it won't be second or first. I'd be incredibly surprised if they make that jump. But I think in a fair fight, over a season, they could out-do Ferrari. We've seen the issues they've got. And I think they can also out-do Asken Martin. If Askin Martin continue to straight-up copycat,

other designs that don't come up with their own philosophies that helps them step forward. So I think 60-od percent would be a reasonable shout. I don't think it's guaranteed, but I do think it's favourable. Harry, any chance of it happening? Yeah, I'd probably go around the same marker as Sam, maybe 65, maybe even 70%, but it's not the question. They've done it before of Maca.

2020. Exactly. Yep. And I think it depends on the rest of this season goes for them, but, you know, the turnaround they've had this year alone has been quite remarkable. yeah, I'd definitely not have the question. If they can continue the form they have currently, as in right now, as we record, in the summer break of 2023, then, then yes, I think they could, they could definitely challenge, you know, if Aster Martin are there this year, then I don't see why McClaren couldn't be there

next year. Yeah, I'm going to say it's, it's about 50-50 in my opinion. I think it's probably a question of how much they kick on from where they've got to, because obviously their growth has been tremendous over a very short period of time in that they were really struggling just five races ago. Like it really has transformed for them almost overnight. The question is, is that it? Like, is that where they are going to be set for a while now?

Or can they kick on even more? Because if they can proceed a little bit further, then they do have a chance at least towards the end of this season of being the second fastest car at a number of races. In which case, yeah, you'd put them with. a chance at the top three. Big questions about whether Ferrari can bounce back a little bit next year. As to Martin, whether they're going to stick around and whether they can sort of do a second season where they're at right now. But certainly it wouldn't surprise me, which is good

to say about McLaren that success wouldn't surprise me about them. Thank you very much for that question indeed. Let's go to Twitter, shall we? It's always a dangerous game, F-1-NUxt. but we'll go to SEO underscore F1 underscore SW again a catchy name

you can go to one race F1 or other series anywhere any seats you want all expenses paid where do you go Harry

blimey I'd go to if we're talking F1 I'd love to go to Monaco I know there's a lot of hate for Monaco but I'd love to

watch F1 Cars go around one and co. That would be ridiculous. Sam has left. I've retired from the podcast. If it was other series, then I mean, Indy 500 or Le Mans, I mean, both of those, I'd love to do.

I've got more into indie in the past few years than I ever wasn't really interested before that. But I'd love to do the Indy 500. that's insane to watch. So what I've done there, I've picked the triple cram. So there you go. The old McLaren answer is what we like to call that. Sam, what are you going for?

I think if we're doing F1, then, I mean, one of them we're already doing. We're going to Co-To this year. And that was always one of those races that I never thought I'd get the privilege to go to. So, you know, that really was up there, maybe a top three option. Maybe Suzuki,

you know, in some creme della creme seats down the start, finger straight would be amazing. Outside of F1, Indy car for me, the Indy 500,

I think is the one I realistically love to go to. It's really special. And I also think as much as Lamong is incredible, I think because it's a 24-hour race and I can't sit still, I think over 24 hours

I might need to go and do something else a bit and come back to pay attention, whereas I don't think I need to do that with Indy 500. Then it's just pure American racing. So, yeah, I think, I think Indy 500 would top the list for me. Spain, turn one. Honestly, mate, I'm going to bang you from the show. My honest answer is the Indy 500, and that's inclusive of F1 as well.

If you include all motorsports series, Indy 500 would top the list for me. Should we go next year? Yeah, let's do that. If I am being F1-centric about the answer, in all honesty, not Spain, turn one, it probably would be Monza. That would be pretty cool. That'll do it for that question. Thank you very much indeed.

Where should we go next? Let's go to the old classic, the one that we need to cover off every time we do one of these Q&As, which we understand because we've got new listeners all the time. time. Apologies for long-term listeners who've probably heard this two or three times already, but where and when did you all meet? Jay Hammer 8 on Instagram with that question. Oh, chest. Do you want to give it a go, Harry? I feel like, you know, myself and Sam have probably answered it in the past, so I'd like to hear it from your perspective, really. I regularly answer this.

All right then. Well, so buckle in, folks. Originally, I knew. I knew. I knew. Sam when I was about eight years old and we were playing water polo so we used to jump in a pool together and do that and then Sam was arrested because he was 35 at the time yeah that was a bit weird obviously not true

but then he stopped doing water polo so I didn't see him for a few years but in the meantime he went to school obviously and he was he met Ben because they were They're on the same school council together and Sam argued about a tree for two hours.

So I'm told. So that's, so yeah, we sort of indirectly met each other but weren't really friends then. Then we got to sixth form in 2012, 2013. 13, yeah, yeah. Around that time. End of 2012, we would have started there.

Yeah, Sebby Vett was winning. Yeah. And we all were in the same history class. And then the rest. kind of history. We, uh, a, did that, didn't do that on purpose. Nice. Um, but yeah, we, we just started, we realized we all liked F1 and we used to spend our Monday morning history lessons instead of doing history, uh, or our coursework. We used to just chat about that, that weekend's F1 race. So basically this format, we started in a history classroom 10 years ago. We just didn't have microphones

front of our faces. But we've done the same thing ever since. We didn't take a hint from everyone else in the class telling us to shut up. Shut up. We thought more people deserve to hear it. I would say that people in our class weren't our target audience.

I mean, you know, Lauren Webster wasn't going to, one of the hits him to have a storm back. Oh, God, if that's got a mention on here. Oh, God. Can we really go to a break with that? I think we're going to have to. We'll do some more question and answers a bit later in the show.

We're going to take a short break now. On the other side, we're going to be talking about Ferrari, Leclair, and some comments from Freddie Vass. So, welcome back. Freddie Vass has had some comments about Charles Lecler. Speaking to the Italian publication, La Gazette de Lo Sport, he had the following to say. Shal didn't expect a season like this. And at the start, he pushed more than he should. now he seems to have digested the situation better.

Carlos is very consistent and for this reason he's a good reference for us. As a character, Leclair is impulsive. If something doesn't go well, he doesn't hold back. However, for his own good and that of the team, sometimes it's better to calm down before speaking. In the heat, you don't have all the information. You need to form a definitive judgment and in front of an open microphone is better to take your time.

He's always very fast, but this year, if you look at qualifying, Carlos was more up to him than in the moment. past. If we're picking out at least the LeCleur being impulsive line, Sam, do you think it's right? And do you think it's fair of him to say so in a publication like this? I think it comes from a place of understanding and appreciation for what Charles LeCleur is dealing with. I think Freddie Vass is not lying to himself or the public about where Ferrari are on their roadmap to back to success, back to the top spot. And I think what he's trying to say here in as many words is Lecler is having to compensate by pushing so hard to make up

for the lack of ability in the car that sometimes it's causing him some unexpected mistakes, more driver errors than maybe he would usually be prone to should the car be up to scratch. You know, you look at France when he was fighting for Stappen for, you know, at that point, what was the lead of the world title? And the car you could see already was slowly falling away in ability in comparison to the red And we saw the mistake, we saw the frustration, that's, you know, the breathing and then the scream as you sit in there facing the wall. Yeah, right, it's very emotive. Because much as you know, we call it a bit of a giggle of a bag now, that is a man's dream where at that point, you know, he was chasing the thing he's worked so hard for, disappearing in front of him.

So, and I don't think he's really fully recovered from that because the car also hasn't fully recovered from that. And I can imagine when something is so close to being yours and all of a sudden it's going to a sudden it's, not and you don't get that chance again, you can lose it a little bit. So I don't think this is vindictive or vicious or harsh or rude. I also wouldn't be surprised if Friggy Vass and Shal have had this conversation privately before coming out and saying this as well, because I think Frig Vass strikes me as the kind of guy that wouldn't try to undermine his drivers publicly. It doesn't strike me to the kind of guy that plays that political game. And I think he also is aware of how important

shall LeClaure is to Ferrari. So as much as I think the statement is a true one, I do think it comes from a very good place. It also shows that he's aware that Ferrari themselves need to step up to give LeCleur what he deserves when it comes to potentially winning races. How did you read this one, Harry?

Yeah, I was pretty much the same on this one. I think he's spot on, is Freddie Vass. And I don't think it's a, but I don't think it's a criticism and I don't think it's something he's not trying to say you know we've seen it before with team principals

where they're not airing their dirty laundry in public but just using that a little bit of pressure of the media printing whatever they say to lean on their drivers but I don't think this isn't it I just think it's he's bit

Freddie Vass he strikes me as a very transparent fellow. He's not... What you see is what you get. Yeah, exactly. So I feel, and I feel like this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and I think

that's a good thing. That's a good thing for Ferrari. I think, as you say, Vassar and LeCla, go back, you know, to Salber days that, you know, they, they, they, they get along well. So, he, he knows him from a younger age, if you. will. So he's, he's had that experience of what LeCleur has been like and what he's like now. So, yeah, I think this is, I think this is a, almost a good thing. I feel like the actual openness, transparency of it always is a good sign. And as I say, I don't think he, I don't think

he's wrong. So it's obviously something that LeCleur maybe needs to bring under control, but I don't think what this comment is about is trying to make him do that. I think it's just acknowledging who Charles LeClaire is. I think in direct answer to the question, is LeCleur impulsive? My answer would be yes, although I would counter that and say, are there any F1 drivers who aren't impulsive? I feel like it's not necessarily a trait of LeCler himself. I feel like it is a trait of pretty much every Formula One driver, which fundamentally I think is a good thing and almost a necessity. in the sport that they're in because, hey, I mean, it's high octane, it's high intensity, it's high adrenaline, you've got to make fast split second decisions. You have to be impulsive. If you're not impulsive, you're reacting too slowly to things and you aren't winning. So whilst I don't necessarily disagree that Charles LeClair is impulsive, I do think it's wrong

to single him out as impulsive. I don't think it's a trait of him. I think it's a trait of Formula One drivers a bit more generally than that. I mean, we regularly hear drivers after the race is finished. Obviously, you kind of hear what they're like over team radio after the check of flag has come down. And in a lot of instances, the driver wants to give a bit of a summary of the race if it hasn't gone very well for them or comment on what he thought went wrong. And you've heard engineers on multiple occasions shoot down the driver just to basically say,

yeah, we'll debrief after this. not over Team Radio. That's definitely happened with Esteban Okon before from memory. That's happened with Joe Guan Yu, perhaps a bit more recently. But drivers will often say, yeah, I don't think I agree with it. And the engine, no, not now, not now, a bit later on. So I think that's just proof. I think they're all impulsive, at least to an extent. Where Freddie Vassar says, if something doesn't go his way, he doesn't hold back. Yeah, nor should he. He expects greatness out of the team and the team expect greatness in return. That's how it should work. A driver of LeClaire's calibre has very high expectations of himself, but equally, he shares

the same expectations of the people around him. And I don't think that should be any other way. I do agree with his point that certainly it's better to wait until you've got more information before you comment on things. And I think Lecler probably already does that in that I don't know if you'd agree with this. I think Charles LeCler is probably the most self-critical driver on the grid. I don't think there's anyone who's more self-critical than LeCler is. He's certainly very open to when he hasn't had a good day. Yeah, I think that's fair. I respect it. I mean, he's certainly up there, even if he's not number one. So, yeah, overall, I think it's, yeah, I agree with you. I don't think, I don't think Freddie Vass has said this with any malice.

But I don't think it's right to call him impulsive in that I kind of just think it's, it comes with the territory to an extent. Do you think, Sam, there's any thoughts about contract talk here where he makes these comments? I know we've just recorded our Patreon episode where we spoke a little bit about Chau LeClair in his upcoming contract situation and what he should do there. Do you think that on the other side of the fence, Freddie Vass is saying these with the idea that both of his drivers are going to be out of contract in 2024. I would be very surprised if Friggy Vass is coming out publicly saying comments that could be misconstrued. The three of us have all agreed that, you know, the wavelength seems sensible and fine.

But, you know, they could be misconstrued publicly. And your biggest asset, as much as I rate Carlos Sites, is Charles LeClauer, I think, for the long haul. So I think he must have pretty good security in the knowledge that Charles LeClauer ain't going nowhere anytime soon, that he's able to have. have this comfortable a relationship with his star driver publicly saying something, which could be deemed quite negative about, you know, your driver. Some drivers would take it the wrong way. Some girls might get angry. Some granders might go, oh, well, you know, this isn't what I thought

that was the case. And our relationship has been soured. I don't think that's going to happen here. And I think that as much as Charlotte-Claure is very critical of himself, I think it allows his team boss to be very honest and open with him also, both publicly and privately. And I think because of that they have a very good relationship together. And so I think that means that actually Freddie Vass probably knows LeCleur isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Harry, I'm guessing based on you thinking that Freddie Vass is very transparent that you don't think there's any ulterior motive here, but do you think that there is any particular reason he's come out and said these quotes at this time? Yeah, no, as I said, I don't think there's any ulterior motive.

Why he said it? Good question. As I said, I think it's a question. As I said, I think it's, it's encouraging that there is just transparency and, you know, there's no sneakiness between Vassar and LeClau, but odd. To be honest, I don't know the context of where the quotes have come from, so whether that makes any more sense of within the actual article. But yeah, I don't know why, what's the reason? Maybe he's trying to put other teams off and he's like, don't hire it. Yeah, they're not that. Don't worry. Charlie, you know, he flies off the handle, no point having him. Carlos is consistent, but he's not as quick as Charles, so it wouldn't bother with him either.

Leave us alone. Leave us alone, please. Yeah, maybe it's an actual genius tactic. I don't know. Yeah, odd timing, but like I said, I don't think there's anything. No malice behind it, as you said, Ben. Just to round out this conversation, obviously, we've mainly focused on Charles Leclair in this. A few people, Sam, have taken exception to Carlos being a good reference.

A few have taken exception to him being referred to as that. Do you think that it's fair enough? Or do you think he's underselling him at all by saying that? I, oh, it's harsh because you want to keep both your driver's morale high. And I think while Carlos sides is a Ferrari driver, you know, you have just as much responsibility to keep him buoyed and happy and, you know, motivated as you do with Charler-le-Cleur. And I think realistically, who do they replace Carlos Sykes with?

That isn't Landon-Norris, Lewis Hamilton, as the rumours have been going around the, you know, the paddock. You know, how many other drivers on the grid are realistically going to step into Carlos Sykes's seat and do a better job? Not saying an equal job, because I think there's a few, but a better job. So for the longevity of the team, it would make sense to manage the security of both LeCler and Sykes. And whilst I don't think that Sikes has the same ceiling level that Charles LeCler has, I do think he's slightly below that. He's a great driver to have on your team.

He is consistent. He is going to get you the points when they're needed. You know, we saw from the early start of this season alone that whilst he hasn't picked up a single podium for quite a long time of this season, he was ahead of the Clare and the points because he just regularly was able to sit in points play with issues, pick them up, no real problems. So Carlos Sainty is that this is going to sound really harsh in science after all the guys since I've just said. He is, in my opinion, the perfect top team V driver. He's a great second driver to have for a top level team because he keeps his head down.

He's not too sassy or, you know, demanding over, you know, in the public limelight. He does care about the team and getting the job done. And I think once he finds himself in a comfortable place, he knows what he's doing. So describing the driver as just a reference point publicly, it feels little harsh. I understand the message behind it, but for me, this one's a little bit touchy.

I don't know if I'd be coming out and saying that when Carlos has equally come out and said, I like to know or I'm going to be, I want to sign a contract with someone soon or rather than later. If you start to annoy him, you might not have him. What do you make of that quote specifically, Harry? Do you think it is fair to call him a reference point? I feel like Carlos Signs gets a bad rap a lot of the time. I know he doesn't help himself sometimes. But color signs is a quality driver.

And I feel like that's what Vassert is trying to say here. I don't, again, don't think it's meant with any... I guess people are saying it, again, reaction I've not necessarily seen. But I'm assuming people are saying that he's been undersold by being called a reference driver. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's, again, I don't think that's what he's going for here.

think he just means he's consistent. He's a solid driver. If anything, though, consistency hasn't always been Carlos' strength, I'd say. But whatever, I'll defer to Freddie Bass on that one. But, no, I don't think, again, I don't think this is meant as anything malicious. I think it's supposed to be a compliment to Carlos. You know, F1 Twitter, mate. They're crazy. Fon next. Yeah, I Yeah. I think overall it's probably accurate in that

To your point, Sam, you could call him the ultimate B driver for a team or you could call him like, I guess what Freddie Vass is saying here, which is really like a bit of a measuring stick, right? You know, anyone worse than Carlos Sines isn't worth investing your time in. Anyone better than Carlos Sines has a potential

to win a world championship. And anyone on Carlos Sines' level is going to do a good job for you. I feel like in not so many words, that is roughly what he's getting at here. And to be clear, he also complements signs in that he says his qualifying pace has been better versus LeCler than it has been in previous years and his consistency as well. He obviously complements that. So I think it's accurate what he's saying. I think the bigger question is, should he be saying it in a public forum? The answer is probably no. I don't think it does anyone any favors to call him just a reference point.

And again, I don't think he meant it negatively. And I think that it is a positive. You know, Carlos Sines is a quality driver. There's a reason, and I know we speak of sometimes the bad luck LeClaire had in 2021. He went three straight seasons, beat Norris, beat Norris, beat LeCler. That was a three-year stretch for Carlos Sines, which I appreciate Lando Norris was early in his career. I appreciate LeCleur had bad luck. 21. That is a seriously impressive run. This guy can drive. And yeah, I think overall he is probably

his role at Ferrari is perfect for where he is as a driver. But publicly airing it in that way is a little risky. Could we do some more questions now? We can do some more questions now. We're going to take a short break. We're going to do some more Q&A on the other side. Black Friday is here at IKEA and the clock is ticking on savings that you won't want to miss. Join IKEA family for free today and unlock deals on everything from holiday must-haves to cozy at-home essentials, all the little and big things you need to make this season shine. But don't wait. Like leftovers at midnight, our Black Friday offers won't last.

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next. Let's have a look, shall we all together? Or just me, as is probably the case. Yeah. Right. Let's go to... Oh, man. Okay. Let's go to this question here. Would you rather shout, yeah, like Zach Brown every time you fart or giggle like Lando Norris? I think I feel like I already giggle a bit like landing or I would shout you every time no I would shout yeah every time I fart you got to take pride in that baby you know although you know if you just get rid of the cinema or something just going yeah you know just sorry to all the fags of Oppenheimer or Barbie you know yeah exactly you know at the funeral of a loved one

and so we lay at them to rest Yeah, yeah. You know, it's funny, comedic, inappropriate. And that is me all over. And also, that's like, if people know why you're doing the yeah, that's like doubly inappropriate there because you're shouting and farting in the funeral. So true. But I think it would make for a many interesting moments.

We'd make for a good story. Oh, what a question. I'd agree with Sam. You've got to take pride, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah. That question, by the way, came in from, when is Dan? I'm not entirely sure you'd want your name out there as being attached to that question, but I've done it anyway. Right. Who, what are we going to next? Because that was obviously the most serious question that we possibly have in this segment. Let me find a serious one. Here's one from over-talking ops, nice name, from Instagram. Any advice for new, Formula One content creators or podcasters. Sam, I mean, we're still working on putting together a good one ourselves,

so we might not be very well positioned, but do you have anything? Leave this alone. Stop trying to click up the space, winging as little competition as we can get. No, seriousness. Find your niche, be consistent. I think, you know, embrace who you are and try and bring something a little bit fresh a difference of the scene. There's a lot of people

that do the same stuff. And I'm not going to bring up again games, but there are a lot of podcasts and creators that are a bit stuffy, bit old way, you know, come out with something a bit new and interesting. So, um, nervous right now.

Don't worry. I'm not going to offend anyone. And be, I think even more so, be consistent. Something we learned quite a long time ago was, if you hit the same days of upload and people know when to expect you,

people will come back and listen time and time again. Also, don't be disheartened when only four people listen to your first episode. and you know, by the episode 10, you still only have 10 people listening. It takes a lot more time than you think. Yeah. If you take nine months between episodes, people don't generally wait that long. Yeah, they won't come back.

It's something that we learned. Yeah. I think that's some very sound advice. And yeah, I would agree with it in that you've got to be you. And if you're not you, people will see for it very, very quickly. as idiotic as the three of us might be, we are very true to ourselves. What you hear on the air

is really not very different to what you hear off the air. Like 96%. Probably something like that. And I think without that authenticity, people will see that through that very quickly. So that's probably the one thing I would add to that.

Harry? Don't get me, anyone like me, and you'll do really well. Nah, we need you, mate. Don't beat yourself back. I totally agree. It's the authenticity factor.

A lot of people have a podcast these days. Seems to be a new one every week. But, again, I'm not going to name names. But I'm just to echo Sam's point, it's find your niche. And also, it's going to sound really wet and lame, but enjoy doing it.

Because you don't enjoy doing it, It comes across like you don't enjoy doing it. And then it sucks. It is the highlight of my week every single week when we do this. Without fail. Yeah. So there you go. So that,

I know that sounds a bit, bit lame. Bit of a wet flannel thing to say, but it's true. You are a wet flannel. I am the wet flannel of the group. Harry wet flannel lead they call me. Wet flange lead,

like a sort of one word. Wet flannel lead. We know Harry's signing off as today. That's the last five seconds of the podcast. Good. Next question. Next question is from Instagram again. This one is from Nick Brown for each of your favorite moment in history,

F1 history specifically. Every year? Big fan of Stalip in, aren't you, Harry? Love it when the first pyramid got finished. F1 history specifically. What are you saying, Harry? Oh, this is, I mean, that almost is hard. as the general history question.

Favorite moment in F1 history. I don't know if I have one. If you can't come up with an answer, we will be saying your favorite moment is Abu Dhabi 21. Oh no, no, no. What will I go for? I'm trying to go for ones that don't relate

to the races I mentioned earlier on, but find that difficult. I'll tell you what, I will repeat myself. Yeah, I'll repeat myself. I think Jensen Button going past Sebastian Vettel on that final lap in Canada, 2011. Again, please bear in mind if you didn't watch your live.

We were there for hours. I distinctly remember it was dark outside when the race was finishing in the UK and it was the middle of the summer and it doesn't get down to like 10 o'clock. So that's how late it was. It was a long old afternoon watching that race or long of the evening, I should say.

but yeah, that was a, I can vividly remember being in my living room back in, back in Cornwall and screaming about that because it was, it was pretty wild. Bear in mind, Sebastian Beto that year, 2011, he just kept winning everything, and it seemed like nothing would stop him. And then finally, a little wet patch on the road did. What about you, son? Thetle's not got a lot of love at Canada, is he? It's like a few tricky moments.

True. It goes away. I'm really struggling with this. I think I'll go Brazil away, the final lap. I think just because sport goes, that is the magic of sport. And it reminds me a lot of when Mang City won their first Premier League title, where you've got the Aguero moment where he hits the back of the net

and the last second. And I'm not a Man City fan. I didn't care that they won. But there was a moment where I watched it. And I was like, wow, that is a sport goes. That's what sport should do to you. It should make you stand up on the egg of your seat. shouting at the screen.

And when Hamilton overtook Glock on that last corner and, you know, Nicole Scherzing is screaming out into the pit lane and the Ferrari engineer head butts the wall. It is pure, unadulterated sporting, brilliant, such a moment. And, yeah, also, when I was a kid, you know, you kind of did root for the Brit. And it was the first time and a long time that we gave some real success and F1. So a lot of things came together. I watched it in my family. It was a really big moment when I was a youngster.

So yeah, I guess that. I think anything like connected to really raw emotion just springs to mind here. So a few that immediately spring to mind, Pierre Gasley's win. I fought him crossing the line in that moment was pretty epic. I would put up that up there. Certainly, Kimmy Reichen, overtaking, overtaking Jean-Carlo Fizichela on the the last lap of the Japanese Grand Prix. What are you doing, Fizzy?

Brain. So good, though, when he just blasts around the outside. That was awesome. I did have one more, and I can't immediately think, oh, Fernando Alonzo's Tomah shout. Tomah! Just anything like that where it's just like pure emotion, I just love. So those three, for whatever reason.

Where I also stood on the Rango and he does there. Yeah, that is a real, anything like that. It's the same with negative ones as well. Like Ricardo walking down the pit lane, you hear him scream. The Lecler one where he's screaming at France. There are some real moments that take you back. Indeed. Thank you very much for the question, Nick Brown.

We will move on to another one. This one comes from no name. And the name is literally no name. I'm not just saying that because it's blank. I'm new to F1 and to the LB podcast over the past year Thank you very much for listening I've watched past races of note to catch up But which pre-20203 episodes of your podcast

Should I go back and listen to? I don't know, don't bother asking me My memory is a sieve I cannot remember I mean it's got to be There's one The LPs Yes

I mean maybe not I think 2022 LBs I think I believe it is the Austrian GP either preview or review for 2022 purely for Jabui because that

it is the funniest moment on the entire podcast that was when this is before we had Kirsty editing and I was butchering it each week and I genuinely had to cut out

about a minute's worth of us just still laughing so what you hear in the episode is a lot what you hear is a lot but it was so much more on the day, it was ridiculous. Oh, it's so stupid.

I do love our, a few of our pre-season and post-season episode. So I've already mentioned the LB awards that we do at the end of the year. So you're looking at December for that one for the last few years. But we also do, teammate wars is always a good laugh,

even though you might struggle to keep up with exactly who was good at that time and pimp my own. F-1 happens where we rate liveries before an F-1 season. I would just mention one more, similar to what Harry mentioned about Djibui. And I can't remember what the title of the episode. It was something to do with Daniel Ricardo, I think the title of the episode was. And it was probably around, probably around this time last year, featured Duke Dinsmore.

Oh, another great name. Late faking was the game that you're looking for at the end of that episode. Now, they're good ones. They're good ones. Yeah. Cool. Okay, let's see where I'm going next. I already mentioned Pierre Gassley, but I'll mention him again. This one's from Carson on Spotify. I love all the episodes.

Thank you very much. My question is, do you think Pierre Gassley is going to win another race in his career? Yes or no, Sam? Yes, I do. I think he's got the ability to do so. I think it's more if he was given the car, he can make it happen again. Harry?

Yeah, if he's not in an alpine. If he moves. If he moves. Yeah, I think he, I think he, the problem is for Gassley, his two big results in terms of like podiums. I'm not saying they're lucky. You've got to be in it to win it.

But they're very circumstantial. I appreciate he was in Alphateri. But my point is, we're still yet to really see, and he's a much improved driver from when he was in Red Bull in 2019. But we just don't have the evidence of could he be in like a, but maybe it will just be another circumstantial one, which, you know, could well happen. I will err on the side of positivity

and say that he will at some point in his career win another race. Why not? let's go good why not Max Verstappen Lewis Hamilton Charlotte

okay we're not actually going to answer that question let's go next to I did just pick one out and obviously

it's already gone from my vision which means I'm probably just going to have to go for another one while I find

that very well organized yeah this is really well here we go it was from it was from Kyle

and another Instagram question this one if you had to create a podcast about any other topic, what would it be and why and who would your dream guest be on that podcast? I'm not sure everyone will have different answers here, but Sam, you have to start a podcast about something else. What's it going to be? It will probably be about food. And I would probably have Gordon Ramsey on the show.

Yeah, I think I probably could have predicted that. Fair one. Harry? I probably would be a real nerd about it and either go for something like I think I'd probably do like a history podcast I don't know who I'd have on it to be honest who's a good historian

I'll do if you want oh Ben you'll come on with me yeah John Keynes you get him on yeah exactly yeah I like a bit of history it was my degree for those who were interested which is no one

so I like a few history podcasts so I reckon I would do that I honestly don't know who I'd have as my my guess I'll say what a history podcast it'd be like an idiot abroad and you two could sit there laughing at me doing stuff I tell you what I listen to one which is about just specifically World War II

and there's an actual historian called James Holland but the other person who does it is Al Murray. Of course it is. The pub landlord. He's really clever. He's got a history degree. Good to know.

Al Murray. Of all people. There's a reason both of you went first on this because I don't honestly know the answer to this question. NFL? I would probably... Yeah, it probably would be...

It would probably be either something on the NFL or like a Brit's guide to like getting into college football because I'm not as knowledgeable about college football yet as I am versus NFL. And I think a Brit trying to fully understand the sport would be quite funny. Not that I'm completely clueless about it,

but the NFL I'm kind of not knowledgeable enough to have a podcast like I am with F1, but I'm pretty just in some middle ground. I also want Greg Wallace to come on. Oh yeah, guest. I forgot about that. Oh, I would have Sam as my guest on the podcast because, I mean, he'd be more clueless than I would be. Obviously, it would be oblivious the entire time. Yeah, I didn't realize that college football and the NFL were two different things.

So there's that. Oh, good. There we are. Right. America! That went as well as I thought it might do. important question here from Simon Saville what level of Nando spice do you go for Harry I'll go for a medium mate o cheeky medium

cheeky medium like a little bit of a lemon and herb I wonder where that was going or mild I'm really bad at spice despite loving a curry and whatnot I generally am not good with spicy food I also don't eat a lot of Nandoes.

As much as I'm quite a cheeky kind of guy, I don't victory to Lantanos too often. I think I haven't really had Nandoes three times in my whole life. Gosh. I live in Cornwall. We don't have Gandoes. No, there is not a Nandoes in Cornwall. However, in my days living outside of Cornwall,

I did have a few Nandoes. And I agree with some. I would go the same as him. but I can't quite go for medium. Not quite there. I get it. I get it. It gets a lot after a while.

A question next from Aldo 1212. Ben, when you are doing a quiz and Harry and Sam are selecting a number of a question, are you actually asking that numbered question? Or can you not be bothered and are secretly just asking them right down the line, one to six every time. I've wondered the same thing. A little part of me has wondered the same thing. That is a sensational idea.

However, no, that is not true. Everything that I ask is actually numbered. But that is very funny. And I might do that from now on. Should we have one more before we go to our last break? All right then, mate. Yeah. So it's our bloody show.

It is. We have full control over this. Let's go. to 716 Craig on Twitter, one of our favourites, who's asked, one team principal has to be chosen to take over management of the podcast. Who are you choosing? Are we going current or historic? Let's just say current or historic.

Either's fine. To manage the podcast? Yeah. That's tough. Oh, got to be Eddie Jordan, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, I mean... It's got to be, Gordon.

I'm trying to think no one else would understand, but I feel like Eddie would understand. The only problem, the only problem of having Eddie is the team principal would be sold in five minutes. Yeah, for eight pound 50, a bottle of wine. That's such a good point. I feel like the correct answer is probably Toto Wolf.

I feel like he would, I don't know. He's a steady hand where we're a podcast of zero. steady hands. So that might help us out. But Eddie Jordan is by far the more entertaining answer, and I'll actually get to meet Eddie Jordan, so I'd go with that. Me and Eddie Jordan let loose together would be a wild ride. This is true. I tell you what, you could go for the guy who was the team principal of Andrea Moda because he got arrested. So it'd be a good one. Oh, yeah. As in he's free, and he's probably not doing anything. He's not busy anymore. He's doing a job. Yeah.

Hang a minute. Getting a call from Finn Bar-O-Farrel. Hang on. Finbar. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Right. Well, I think that'll do it for the Q&A part of this podcast. Thank you very much to everyone who submitted a question. We got through as many as we possibly could. But as mentioned at the beginning, there were way more that we couldn't get to. So thank you very much to everyone who submitted. And it's nothing personal if we didn't read yours out. Can I ask a question, Ben? Oh, this is dangerous. Go on.

Yeah, I know. Sorry. We got a load more. Would people be interested in a Patreon episode of us answering further questions as like a private Q&A ep? Because we've got another one for this month. And if you'd like to hear it, obviously you do get, oh my God, two extra episodes a month. So I'd be wondering if people might be interested. I'll pass the message on. People, would you be interested in a Patreon?

Oh my God. That's quality humor right there. We'll take our final break at this point. It's really poor. F1 higher or lower is after this. Full disclosure, folks. We're on the old soundboard. My old mate,

see if it's going to work. Here we go. Is Sam faster? Is Harry slower? F1 higher. F1 lower. F1 lower. Didn't we like play F1 higher or lower like last week?

Yeah, probably. We're having to play a lot of games at the moment because we haven't got any races, mate. It's back and forth. Padding. Pure padding. No, F1 higher or lower is great. Let's explain the rules. First and foremost, Harry versus Sam.

Six numbers, six questions in front of me, which, as just revealed a few minutes ago, I do actually take seriously and pick whatever number they actually do choose. They will take it in terms to answer the question, which has some sort of numeric value. If they get it spot on, they will get two points there and then. Well done. They don't get it right. It will go over to the other person to say whether the guess was, they are higher than

that guess or lower than that guess. If they're right, they get a point. But if they're wrong, the original guesser gets the point. Numbers one through to six. Sam, what are you going for? I'll have number two, please. Number two, I'd like you to tell me the most points that Michael Schumack

are scored in any season. Harry's going to know this to the decimal place, that's not fair. Absolutely not. Full disclosure, there's no decimal places in this answer. I know it's a hint, no decimal places. 127. That's not spot on. Harry, higher or lower than that?

Higher. Higher is correct. It's a pretty good guess, 1-27, you're not far off there. The answer's 148 that he achieved in 2004. Yeah, not far off at all. He also got very close to that number in 2002 as well, I think it was.

Yeah, 148 in 2004 is the correct answer. Which means Harry takes a 1-0 lead and you get the next question. One, please. Number one. How many times has spa... Spar... What's it called?

Frankenchops. Spar frankenchops! How many times has it hosted the Belgian Grand Prix? Oh, 37 times. Now, that's definitely wrong. But carry on. Okay.

It's not hosted. 37 times. Sam, is it hosted more than 37 times or fewer? In the words of that man from Oliver Twist, I'm going to say, more. I don't think he said it quite like that, but I'll let that slide because you are correct. As Harry, I think, realized as soon as he guessed, it is a bit more than that. Any idea what it might be? Oh, it's a very good guess. Just one out. Fifty-sense. Oh, Zooie Mama. It's like Captain Underpants reference. I think it might be.

Jeez. Okay, we're there. We're there, apparently, right? Numbers three through to six, we're at one all. What number would you like, Sam? Number five, please, Ben. Number five. How many Grand Prix starts has Sergio Perez had?

Quite a lot. Can I go with that as an answer? Lower. Damn. I'm going to say, 204. It's not 204. Harry, do you want to go higher or lower than that guess?

Higher. Tis a little bit higher. It is in the 200s, but it's 247. Poop. Tratt. Two ones are Harry. It goes back to you. Numbers three, four and six are left.

Number four, please. Number four. How many people attended the 2003 British Grand Prix? And I'm looking at the entire weekend. Oh, it flashes up on the bloody screen. Give it a break. Yeah, it's like $410,000. Something like that.

Yeah, that is literally correct. It's not $410,000. my bad. I'm assuming you don't want to actually go higher or lower than that, Sam, because you think it's right. Literally, you have $400,000 in my head. The same. Yeah, it was the same.

I'll go for the same. We'll share a point. Now I don't know. Now it's a 50-50, and I literally don't know what way to go, and this is quite literally my vice in life. Because it's big Brexit Britain, I'm going to go bigger, more.

I hate the logic, but I like the answer. is higher. 480,000 was the number. What? That's a lot, in it? It's a lot of people. That's a lot of people.

A lot of people. Which means we're locked at two all with two questions to go. We have number three and number six left. Sam, back to you. I'll have number six, please. Number six. How many times have Alpine not made the finish of a Grand Prix this season? So on an Indian.

individual driver base. How many times as an Alpine driver not made the finish of a Grand Prix this season? So am I adding up each driver as one? So if they both don't finish, that counts as two. Correct. And I say didn't make the finish because there might be some occasions potentially where they have been classified because they've done enough of the race, but they've not finished. I am counting those. Oh, God. Count them as in they don't count as they don't count as a finish. We count them as they technically finished. They don't count as a finish.

Okay. Sorry for the clarifications, folks. I'm going to go with seven. I was thinking seven. That's weird. Harry, when we get to the last question, I've got some bad news. You're going to have to get it spot on because that is two points. Oh my God.

Seven times they have not made the finish this year. And I had to put that asterix in there because if you think back to the Australian Grand Prix, they both didn't finish that, but it was so close to the end of the Grand Prix that they were both technically classified. That was the same as well for Gassley at Silverstone. He finished enough of it to be classified, but of course, thanks to the Landstrol, didn't actually finish the race. Seventh is spot on, which means Harry, you do need to get what number? Pick number three, my lord. leave me to come over my hand, folks, probably.

Not at all. Oh, sorry. I do have some good news for you, Harry, though. You've got a good chance with this one. Don't say that because I'll get it so wrong. Specialist subject. Shat Vilner. It's not Jacques Vilnav.

Even more of a specialist subject than Jack Vilnav. I want you to tell me how many laps there were at the Korean Grand Prix. Oh, come on. No idea. 58. It's not 58, which means,

Sam, you do have the win, but for an added point, higher or lower than that. I'm going to go, it's quite a long lap. So I'll go lower. You would be writing saying lower. It's a,

58's a good guess. I thought for a split second, you might have got it. 55. Oh, that's right. It's no Brazilian Grand Prix, is it? No, which means it was two all heading into the last two questions, but thanks to the Sam double pointer and indeed that last point,

it's a five two win for Sam. I've had a good night for games, you know. Yeah, Patreon spoiler there. Don't listen to this first. Whoops. Oh, that'll do it for today, I think, Sam, if you wouldn't mind getting us out of here. folks remember tickets are on general sale you can come to the live show but there are not many left so run to the link in the discreppy also if you want to join in with more people talking

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