The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Is Lewis Hamilton UNDER PRESSURE in 2023?

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

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Hello and a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage and me, Ben Hocking. Coming up on today's episode, James Vals introduced as the new Williams team principal, Max Verstappen, appearing on Drive to survive after a one year. absence and we're going to be discussing our top five drivers under pressure. I mean, usually I have something pre-prepared for this intro to go over to you, Sam, but I don't really have anything. So you're right? As if the setup just gets worse and worse every single week.

Yes, Ben, I'm fine. Thank you. I have my dinner. I have nuggets for lunch. I have pizza for ding. I'm a healthy boy today. Wow. All the vegetables.

So that's gone well. very cold. Base banquet. Indeed. You know what? It's so cold in the UK at the moment. Every other country that actually experience is cold. I don't want to hear it.

Don't want to hear you. It's cold here. It was minus four last night. To Americans, I don't know what that is. But Centigrade, minus four. Cold. Didn't like it. Harry, are you all right?

Yeah, I'm also cold. But we live in the same city. We do. 20 minutes away for each other. Yeah. I'm all right. You'll be pleased to know that this farlam has any battery. Rejoice.

No beeping, everyone. There was only one week of beeps. That's not a... I don't have a huge amount to update you all on. I had Nocky for tea. Gwen, I'm going for the Nocky. As if we've gone for a Gavin and Stacey reference this early into the show. Yes.

All right, Ben, can you top? Pizza, Nocky and you had... I'm when I've probably exactly what I had last week. Oh, come on. Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. It's the same thing we had last week. Man's got to get in before that one week, you know, expiry date. Come on.

They're going to start calling you Pesto Pasta Ben. This rate. Hey, I've been called worse. I'll take that. Yeah, by us. Right. Should we get on with an F1 podcast? Hello.

we go into, yeah, hello, before we get into our drivers who are under pressure, just a quick note, we have put something out on Twitter and on Discord about our coming to Texas in October, still can't quite believe that's happening. We're currently trying to gauge interest on an event. We're going to potentially do a live podcast recording maybe on the Thursday before the race. And we just want to know, is anyone actually going to turn up? So if you see it on Discord, on Twitter, or if, you know, if you want to go along, just let us know, basically.

So, you know, we don't book a 200 place event and only three we show up because that would be pretty embarrassing, wouldn't it? I'd be pretty funny, though. It would be hilarious. It would be quite funny. British podcast airs in Texas. No one shows up. Just some cowboys. Yeah.

I'm quite tempted to get a little cowboy hat tattoo when they go out. Texas, you know. Tattooed? I don't you just get a cowboy hat. No, I will. I'll get a cowboy hat, but I might get like a little cowboy hat tattoo in honor of Texas. Can we all dress up?

We all go to the race in, in Stetsons, in cowboy hats and leather boots. And I will declare, Yee-ha, every lap, every time they come past. I'll say it at full volume.

Oh, God, we're going to get killed. Oh, no, no. Sorry, America. Right. 20 drivers on the grid. We're picking out five each as to who is under the most pressure. Harry, I'm sure you haven't prepared anything on this. Don't make me go first.

Don't make me go first. Go on, Sam. Off you go. That's hilarious. That is absolutely hilarious. I've got two drivers so far. Maybe there's only two under pressure. You'll find out.

Maybe. Right. The first one that I went for, I'm not doing all five in one go either. We're going a little circle here. The first one I'm going for is Hall of Fame at Yuki-Singoda. I do think this is absolutely... So he's ranked five? Yeah. Well, no, there's no, there's no.

No, I'm not ranking them. You're changing the game here, Ben. Yeah, come on. I'm not even written five, let alone rank stuff. I'm playing with the cars I've dealt here, and then you're playing rummy cub over the other side of the room. No, I'm not ranking. Ben can rank him in his own little world.

Yuki Sanoa is at 5. Basically, the Hall of Famer, as much as he's an absolute little legend, and I love him to bits, he has kind of had two not so good years. He's had a couple of good performances. He scores some couple of good points positions, but he's never really delivered at a consistent level. And arguably, he's never been at the same level as a teammate, let alone the cars around him on a consistent basis.

And I think, obviously, the key purpose of Alfred Tauri is to be a building block for Red Bull. It's to provide them with young talent. It's to give them a way of driving forward that talent. And Yuki Sanooga is very much not ticking that box, I would argue, both the public eye and the Formula One Paddock's eye. He's not ready for a Red Bull seat. Yeah, eyes all over the place.

It's not ready for that Red Bull seat. If Perez were to retire at the end of the season, who do they put into that second seat? Currently, I don't think it's Yuki Sanoa. So this is big pressure time. otherwise he's taking up a seat for no reason. And at that point, does he become another Pierre Gassley where he's just holding on to a seat for no good?

I don't know. So, in number five, Yuki Singoda. Proper top of the pop-style announcement there. In at five, Yucanona. Great stuff. I mean, you have declared, Harry, but you have got at least two names, so I can go to you now for a first one.

I, well, again, I'm not ranking these, but the first one I pick out of my, my curated list that I've done before this podcast. It's Sergio Perez. Sam just mentioned him. And I think I was spoken about this before. Now, look, I don't think it matters what kind of bad year or so Daniel O'Cardo had. I just think him being back on that team is not good news for Sergio Perez.

Because I just, I said it before. He's a big presence. He's well known. He's well liked. he's won a few, well, quite a few races for Red Bull. So I think Perr is going to be feeling the pressure this year. And, you know, we spoke about him. Last week, I think, you know, saying he needs to level up or whatever to match Max for Stappen.

That may not be possible. And I think we agreed that probably wasn't possible. But I think he's going to need to up his consistency in 2020, 2020, because that smiley, lovely looking Australian is going to be peaking over his shoulder for an entire year. He is handsome. He is handsome. But, you know, that could get annoying for Sergio when he's just, like, behind him the whole time.

If he wants to do that to me for a year, I'm all right with it. Yeah, well, there go. The lurking, housing. Option, option for you, that, Sergio. D.R., Danny Rick, will walk around everywhere together and he will be slightly behind me peering over my shoulder. wherever we go. Good.

Well, they go. That's my first one, especially embarrassed. Good stuff. I have ranked my five because ranking things is just infinitely fun. I love ranking things.

Rank the podcast hosts on this show. Great. You're both four. I'm third. Dave Benson Phillips is second. And Harry's Microw. first. First of all, before I get into my number five is, I have to say, right, I have a bit of a

system here, folks. If I'm, like, writing any notes for the podcast or really anything F1 related, I will generally abbreviate everyone to have their initials rather than write out their full name every time. Logan Sargent, you have destroyed my system because you share the same initials as Landstrol. You've destroyed. So I'm not having this, right? So Logan Sargent hasn't been in.

So he's under pressure. I don't think he has the right. I don't think he's, I'm changing his name. I don't think he has the right to be called a sergeant yet. So I've actually demoted him for the rest of the year, or at least until he can usurp Lanchstrol, you are known as Logan Corporal and you will be LC in all of my notes. But when you get that promotion from Corporal to Sergeant,

Lance Strull, your name will have to change Sunshine. I'm sorry. Yeah, Lansdordle. Lelthordle. Beside the overall point, I've put Esteban Ock on at 5 here, because whilst he might have a contract that's set to go until 26,

in actual fact, it's the end of 2024. Like, this guy still got two years of that contract that he signed like a decade ago. Whoever managed to orchestrate that deal is a genius. So I can't put him any higher than fifth on this, ranking because he's still got two years left at the team. But realistically, Alonzo and Piastri were both options. And they had three drivers. They had Alonzo, Piastri and Ocon. And let's be honest, if you were going to say pick two for the 2023 season, most probably would have gone with

Alonzo and Piastri. Alonzo, obviously the two-time world champ doing the dance. And Piastri being the upstart rookie. So I think Ocon needs to prove. himself to Alpine to an extent to say, yeah, you went with me. You didn't want to give Alonzo that longer term deal. I'm going to prove that that was the right decision. And I'm going to lead the team rather than Pierre Gasly. And he has the opportunity to lead a team and really prove that he's not in F1 to be this perennial, very good midfielder. And maybe he has the chance to be more than that. But I think it's got to happen sooner rather than later. It feels like this is his first big opportunity to do so.

Throw another name into the mixam. Well, I'm going to jump on the Harry E. bangwagoning. I'm also going to put out there, Sergio Perez. And basically, the key part is Sergio Perez has already thrown down the gautlet and said he's racing the best he's ever raced and he's going for the title, folks. He's going for the title. He thinks he can challenge. Now, that's a big statement to make.

And I know that as a thing, the one driving, you have to, you've got to back yourself, right? I agree. In life, should back yourself, but you can choose your words carefully whilst backing yourself. Anyway, there is a real risk that Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez are going to be getting their handbags out and hitting each other with them for the whole season. And we might see some absolutely awful, you know, team culture rivalries going on within that team. But Sergio Perez is in a very precarious position. Harry made a great point.

I don't want full naming you, Harry, but you've got full named. You make a full, great point. on Sam stage. Yeah, exactly. We're all on four-game basis. Can't do initials. About Daniel Ricardo. No.

Can't do my initials. There's some really bad things that are my initials. You know, Daniel Ricardo's there. He is a race winner. He is a huge personality and he's a reliable set of hands for that team.

I think they know, even after his bad gear, he could back up Max Rascapping. Easy Peezy. Oh, good day. He's winning races. I think if he's comfortable in a team, he's got what it takes. Searchia Perez,

he has a problem with the wrong person. in that Red Ball team. And I think it's by-bye contract. I really think it's going to be that easy. They go, that's it. Last year. Cheers for what you've done. You've never even brought home a second place.

See you later. And then they go, well, we've got options, haven't we? We can have fun with it. So I think Sergio Perez has got to really show how competitive if you can be across a whole season. And he's got to stick to the very back end

of Max Verstappen for as long as possible. I know there's a few people that would very much like to stick to the back end of Max Verstappen for as long as possible. But Sergio Perez has got to. His job relies on it. jeez i don't think i want the job um harry throw another name okay um oscar p astry now i know last week i said his new year's resolution was to not panic and be calm but that boy's got a lot of pressure on his

shoulders less let's not beat about the bush here folks um like i said with all the controversy of last year been supposed to be in LPN, then it wasn't, then he's, now he's in McLaren, and he's going to McLaren replacing a race winner. Let's not,

not forget, we've already spoken about him, but he's also going in to Lando Norris' team. Let's be real about this now. That's, that's what, that's what Oscar Piastri's walking into here.

So yes, while I said he, he shouldn't panic because he, you know, he may well be behind Norris this year. There's still a lot of pressure. on his shoulders to live up to the expectation of a that's been hyped about it.

And rightly so, he's been very impressive in Junior Formula, but you can be as impressive as you want in Junior Formula and sometimes it doesn't work out. You know, Jody and Palmer, looking at you, son. So, yeah. Don't compare him, well, Piastri could be on Five Live at any time now. There's go, that's my second one. So I'll give my number four pick here, which, you know, has seamlessly followed both of your number four picks. There were no gaps at all between your submissions there and what I've just done here.

There were no technical glitches whatsoever. We haven't been sat here for the last half hour trying to sort it out. I'm so tired. Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton I'm putting in this spot, which might be a surprise to some people because how could there be pressure on a seven-time world champion who's done pretty much everything in the sport. And I think this... The goat!

I love that so much. So I think this is completely subjective, but I think that this is all dependent on whether he actually cares about this. And he might not, because why would he? He's really successful when he probably doesn't care about this stuff like I do. But I think, depending on how this season goes, let's say it goes really well for him. and he wins his eighth championship. Suddenly he holds every record

that you can pretty much have in Formula One and it's going to be really difficult to say anything other than, yeah, he's probably the best of all time. You know, maybe there's still an argument for someone else, but also he's got a good argument when he's won an eighth championship. But if it doesn't go very well, and George Russell beats him again, then suddenly you look, well,

he lost to Nico Rosberg when they were teammates and Rosberg won the title. Russell's beating him twice Sam's favourite stat of Button being very close to him and beating him over the course of three years I'd throw that in there but I think you're getting to the point where Schumacher didn't lose the teammates

so if he wants to be known as the greatest of all time and again he might not care about that then I think there might be a bit of pressure on this year He just lost to cars he drove into instead still one though didn't he? Not those years Not rising to that Wi-Fi boy. Come on.

I mean, you know, 97's your favourite year, in it, Harry? It doesn't exist, mate. No. December 31st, 1996, to the Drivenger-Denry 1st, 1998. As we know, the world champions go, Schumacher, Hill, Haken and Hakenen. That's how it goes. All the history books will tell it.

Have you got any other names that haven't already been mentioned, Sam? Yeah. The smooth operator himself, Carlos Sites. And while I don't think he's maybe as much under pressure as some of the other drivers mentioned, I think Lewis Hamilton was a fair shout. He was actually on my list. Carlos Sites has this year and this year alone, I think, to make himself not the secondary driver for pretty much, I think,

the rest of his career. He's either going to win this season against Charles LeCler and cement himself as a top-level driver who can leave Ferrari and will fight LeCler for world titles if the car is ever in the position to do so. Or he loses to the Clare. That's two to one. LeCleur is the Ferrari Golden Boy

and Carlos Sykes at a top team will never be number one. Or he'll be number one at a midfield team later on in his career where he maybe does some strong development, like Valtrey Bottas is now doing Falaframayo, so to speak. you know, won a few races, had a great time at a top team, but was never able to capitalise against their team mate.

And I think he's on the precipice of that. I think it's very much a make-or-break year for him. He's got a great reputation, people love him, but he has to prove he's got that absolute raw speed. The speed is raw, like the lamb source, get it? And that's what Carlos Seitz needs. So, yeah, for me, Carlos Seitz is a little bit under pressure. I'm surprised it's taken this long to get that in there.

but under pressure. It shouldn't be that long to upload it, mate. Well, yeah, that's true, yeah. He actually said at the beginning of this podcast, it's only just come through now. Harry, do you have any names that haven't already been mentioned to throw into the mix?

The only one left that hasn't been mentioned that's on my list is, and I've put, is George Russell, which is contrary to what you said about Lewis Hamilton, Ben, but I don't think Russell needs to prove anything this year. I think he proved enough last year.

yeah I know exactly cry he blind me but he yeah it doesn't need to prove anything

but I think he needs to show that you know last year wasn't you know just because Lewis Hamilton had experimental set-ups bloody bloody blah he had a few dodgy races

towards the end and then we put them behind it with a sublime win in Brazil but I think he just needs to carry the form one and make sure that it's not you know

a one hit wonder So, you know, second album, second movies, books, etc. They're difficult to do. This is year two. It could be difficult for him to carry that on. So, yeah, it's going to be a tough year for old Georgie Russ. But, well, I'm sure Ben believes in him, but we'll come to that of our predictions. So whatever.

Be the Toy Story 2. I know you can be, George. I know you can do it. Oh, one of the best sequels of all time. Can I, sorry, just interrupt this as well. Lauren, my, this week girlfriend's just texting me to say she started hoovering. So if you hear that, that's what's going on out there. She's just trying to get another appliance in there, right?

Yeah, it's her claims of fame. Whole House will be on the late breaking hall of phone suit. Off topic, I'd like to know what people think is the best number one, the number one choice for one hit wonder of all time, please. I thought you're going to say What's the best choice of Hoover But yes, better question Yes

We're not going into Hoovers Are going to One Hit Wonders Of all time I might throw out there JCP by Nisloopi Do you remember that song? Oh wow That is a good song

It's a shout that It's a real shout It's like I'm finding My dad's Bruce Lee Drives me around By JCB I've got there for a long time. Yeah, it's been a while.

I'm going to, with permission from you both, I'm just going to quickly run through my three to one and then wrap up this topic because it's cursed, apparently. And it's all repeat names as well. I haven't got anyone new. So Oscar Piastri, I had at three because, well, you're a rookie,

which usually keeps you off this list. But also, you basically cost the team over $10 million in order to make it happen. So there's a bit of pressure on that. Like if you're looking at how much it costs McLaren, he's kind of the de facto like fifth most paid driver on the grid. But obviously he's not getting that money. But McLaren have had to fork it out in order for him to be there.

So still a bit of pressure on that. I also had Perez because of quote, lurking Aussie, Daniel Ricardo. Here's a stat for you. Get a stat man in here early on. In the three years together, Daniel Ricardo and Vestappen had as teammates, Daniel Ricardo was only 18 points behind Max Vastappen. In the two years that Perez and Vestappen have had together, Perez is 354.5 points behind Max

Vastappen. Now, I appreciate Vastappen is better now than he was five years ago. And Ricardo might not be as good now as he was five years ago too. But that's a pretty damning remark that he's going to, I don't know, should scare Perez a bit and hopefully as by him to do have a good season. But I also had Yuki Sonoda in my mix and I had him as number one here because man's got to perform this year. And if he doesn't, he might be in trouble.

He's going up against a rookie who is the least rookie rookie rookie of all rookies that ever rooked. Like he is going into his third year of F1 and going up against a rookie who's won an FEE championship and he's five years older than him. It's like, can you mind

you remember going into second? secondary school, like, you know, when we're in year seven, so like sixth grade or whatever it would be in the US. And looking at the year 11th, like, they're massive and you're terrified of them. That's the age gap between DeVries and Sonoda. Sonoda's the year seven looking at the year 11, Nick DeVries, like, I've got to beat this guy. Otherwise, my career's over. That's a lot of pressure, if you ask me. Nick DeVries is like the caranel rookie bar, isn't it? It's like, you know, it's like top tier lunchbox chocolate bar options. That is, you know, you know, you're

that you've got the goat sat next year if you put out it's a rocky bar by the way folks it's just to play on words but you know that that guy's having a good lunch Harry what are your thoughts of brux bar options we are not discussing brunch bar options oh good lord the goat of biscuits the goat's exactly I've said this before and people

you know may remember but if Lewis Hamilton was a bar snack it'd be a brunch bar that's what I'm saying they're so done with this podcast My word. Like, honestly, both of these guys call me boring all the time. And I can take it from Sam because Sam's an exciting guy. And either right. Harry has no right to ever call me boring because of this reason.

That's the nicest thing that's ever said to me, ever. What, you're not playing because you don't eat brunch bars. I think it is I love a brunch bar. Newshy grain, top tier. Oh, well, that's a different cat of the fish because that would get into breakfast. talking him after this. Cheers, everyone. Oh, this is the worst podcast

where you've made me done in a long time. It didn't mean to finish our top five. No, it's just, all right, fine. You don't get to finish your top five. Bad from top fives. Okay. We're going to talk James Miles now

because obviously he's been announced as the team principal at Williams. Now, just about managed to avoid the teams we don't like because they post news on a Thursday. list because they posted it last Friday. Still don't love it, but you come on, Williams, a couple of days before our podcast plays or at least one day before.

He's been at Mercedes since 2010, although he's been an F1 with the Mercedes Honda line of teams since about 2001. And he joins 20th of February as the new team principal, William. So what was your reaction to the news, Sam? I was really taking a back by this news. When the games went down for who could be team principal, I didn't hear a single person, both on social media, any of us, even in the news as rumours, that James Vowels could take up that spot.

And when you think about it, it's surprising, and it's a bit of a risk, right? He's never being team principal. He doesn't have that experience, apart from filling in the shoes of the massive shoes of Toto Wolf, both I imagine literally massive and figuratively massive shoes of Toto Wolf, when he's gone, I want a day off or I want to be at home for a week, understandably. And if you look at his time at the teams that he's worked with, he is amassed a huge amount of experience working within teams, working with engine suppliers, working with customers.

The guy has almost done work experience for 21 years, and now he's finally been offered the actual job. You know, he's finally graduated. And I like it. It's bold from Williams. They realize that they're struggling. They realize that they're at the back having an absolute nightmare. I mean, they've already got this relationship with Masegis.

So why not make more of it? Interestingly, though, I wonder how it's going to go the other way with Mesegis. Because they strengthen the Mosegis' relationship. It's almost become more of the Mesegis B teaming out because Toto and James got such a close relationship that, you know, I'm going to say he's happy to lean on Williams even more. Is it you'll test the engines, you know, that the price is going to be this, that and the other. you're going to have this part on that. We'll put a junior driver in your team if it comes up as an available option for us.

We don't know, of course, how that's going to play out. But I imagine Williams, Toto and what not, and the Segeys are all going, this is nice. This is strengthening our relationship. This is strengthening our build between us. It suits both teams. I am surprised that he's been so willing to move away from, you know, an eight-time Constructors' Championship winging team only a year or so after,

basically, it started to fall off the peak and go to the very big. and go to the very back of the grid. But hey, I guess if you've got to start somewhere, you'll get your foot in the door. It's a Formula One team. It's not like he's moved away from the sport. He's got so much worth of knowledgeing. So, exciting to see where it goes,

excitedly what he does with the team. Williams is getting a massive shake-up internally. Let's see if he can actually pull it out of the bag because it's probably the hardest job in Formula One right now. Harry, what was your reaction to the news and do you think this was a good appointment? Yeah, look, I'm with Sam. see this one coming. I don't think many people did.

But it's in my view, a very solid signing. James Viles has been, I think he's been in Mercedes longer than Mercedes have even been around. So I think he's been with that team pre-Messadies. So he's been there a long time. So I get the change of scenery. And, you know, he's been

integral to their success, undoubtedly. So it's a good signing for Williams. But with Sam, what it says more is their relationship now with Mercedes. Because if you remember when they signed Alex Albon,

you know, a Red Bull Jr. Who still has Red Bull on his helmet. I think the Williams Mercedes, and I'll say Mercedes, I mean, the Williams-Toto relationship was, I don't know, it seemed a bit strained. But this, they put Toto on the damn press release.

And it's from Williams for crying out loud. So if that doesn't say what you need to know about this relationship, I don't know what does. but it's definitely been strengthened by this move which I'm sad for Williams

but the days as an independent team were I mean they're not as independent as they used to be but they still sort of are but I think that those days are numbered and it's sensible to to be friends with the eight time world champions

if you're going to be friends with anyone be friends of them better than being friends with a Ferrari I guess So, yeah, it's good call. I think it says a lot about the Mercedes relationship, which I think is also a good call. I'd be interested to see how it goes. And I hope time is given to James to build something up

because it's, again, when we said it with when obviously Yoss Capito left, didn't feel like enough time was given to him to, well, I felt not enough time given to him to build something up there. So hopefully they do give James the necessary time to build up. Build Williams back up the front. Imagine that. That'd be loved to see. Yeah, it would be the first time in a long time,

unless you're talking about the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix, of course. I'm always talking about that, then. Always. He's the goat. Fucking the same. Every topic. I largely echoed what both of you have said here. I agree with you in that, firstly,

yeah, I was surprised. It's one of those where in hindsight, yeah, it makes a lot of sense, but also no one called this. If someone's telling you, yeah, I thought this might happen, they're lying to you. No one knew about this.

Yos Capitoe, I think, was an interesting hire in that he's been highly successful in, not just F1, but just in motorsport generally, and in fact, more so motorsport generally. I mean, they basically dragged him out of retirement. to do this just based on his resume. And he might well have been on the path to success. I guess we'll never truly know.

But the problem is, as you've kind of both alluded to, it seemed to be taking too long for Williams' own timelines versus what Capitos might have been, hence why they made this decision. Obviously, it's not great that they start off the new era of F1 in such a bad spot. You know, they weren't in a good spot. Lauren.

The spoofering up the rubbish that is this podcast. Yeah. Right. Oh, man. She text. She's also saying, sorry, I want us to have a clean flat.

So there's your apology. Can't argue with that. Can't argue with that. Yeah. So I guess there was impatience at the team and they just didn't, they didn't have the same timelines that Capito had.

But yeah, I agree with you in terms of James Vals. I think he deserves this. opportunity. I would just preface this by saying, actually, that I know it's not directly related to this hire because of the Mercedes Williams connection. But if a team on the grid, and it could be within Red Bull itself, I don't know, if there is a team on the grid that would like to look at an option, which is a head of strategy from a highly successful team, may I suggest you look in Red Bull's direction and look at Hannah Schmidt for this, because

they've been doing the same role essentially herself and James Vals for quite a number of years. And Hanna Schmidt seems to be at the top of the game. Not to put a downer on James Vouser at all who's done a tremendous job, but I really hope she gets an opportunity like this at some point in the near future if she wants it because I think she absolutely deserves it. It's a bit beside the point. But in terms of James Vow, I think he deserves this opportunity. And it's a tall order.

again, you would think that he would only take this on if he has been given the assurance by Williams and the board that, yeah, you will have the time to implement this because James Vals isn't a dummy. He's looking at Williams right now where they are and realistically where they could be in two years or three years and it's not going to be an overnight remedy. It's not going to be something because of the era

not really changing after 2022. It's not going to happen overnight. You're not going to turn a back. mark a team into a front runner within a year or two years. So he's probably got a long-term plan. Whether Williams are able to allow him to execute that, that's probably going to be the determining factor here. I think you make a really good point there in the,

it's not, you know, you can't stick a bit of night nurse on it and hope you wake up tomorrow and you've got a championship contending car. You know, you can't put a plaster over a huge crack in the wall. It's not going to fix the job. I hope that they just allow him to either hire in or internally provide him with as much support as possible, the likes of Jenks of Button there, being there as consultant. I hope they get more and more individuals like that to be around him

to ensure that if he needs for focusing a certain area, I don't know if that be mechanically or aerodynamically in building a certain part of the team that's struggling. We know that their chassis is the problem. The EMAGE's engine is fine. Not necessarily the most powerful on the grid at the moment, but it's a good engine. They could need help with their chassis and their aerode team.

It's hope that he can focus in building that area and the expertise around that. and important team members can support him and help with the other working parts. And if he's left to his own devices and left on his own stranding a little bit, I think he'll never be able to get the job done that he wants to. And we'll, again, we'll get two seasons down the line

and he'll be removed from post. We'll have the same conversation again, which I think will be a massive show. I think they should try and put nightness on it because that shizzle fixes anything. It is amazing. You want to be knocked out and sleep for 10 hours? A bit of night nurse.

Honestly, sponsor the podcast, Nynast. Sponsor it. Go on. Do it. It doesn't need to. It's getting all the advertising it wants. Why would it sponsor us? It can't get any more from us than it's got in the last two minutes. Who's their biggest competitor? Who's their biggest competitor? Day nurse. Night nurse.

Don't go. No, doctor. Competitors. Because I'm going to talk about them only until they sponsor me. Right. Okay. Good stuff. That's how it works. I haven't got any.

I own the game. Well, they're so good. Damn. Damn. He had us in the first half. Like us own the game. I'm more serious than that. I do agree with what you just said there, Sam,

before all the night nurse stuff and about Williams instead. Because I feel like it would be the equivalent of saying like a team's just got promoted to the premier league in football and someone has asked them, okay, turn this club around in one season and then you go, okay, great, what's the transfer budget? And they say, oh, five million. It's never going to happen, right? There's not enough changing between the two seasons here. Obviously, it's not

transfers and we're talking about regulation instead, but there's not enough changing for there to be that variance. So you've got to give it time and have those expectations correctly. I wonder if we'll see a bit of an influx of Mercedes employees moving over to Williams. I'll know you with a good package. I know you're a top member of the team. Fancy a challenge. Lewis Hamilton. Yeah, day one. March 1 March 1st, Hamilton moves to Williams. Do you reckon that Mercedes are thinking of a succession plan here for when Toto Wolf decides to step aside, Harry? Potentially. I mean, the day's going to come at some.

point, I don't know if it feels like why would you need to send them off to another team? I get the experience as team principal, but often you promote from within and

why would you need to go and see what they do as team principal to test it out of us? I don't know. It could be, could be. And speaking, you know, we're talking about those stronger ties. Maybe this is part of it. Which would be harsh for Williams, a buddy, really harsh.

If I just, glad I got that one back. Yeah, you know, have a team principle, but Syke will take him away again when we want him. That would be a bit savage, so it could,

it could well be. Would they not do something because it would be savage? I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying they wouldn't do it. I'm just saying, poor team Willie. They might feel a bit right.

Free Willie. I feel a bit. no, clean Willie, not free Willie. Yeah. Yeah, but it could well be the case here. Maybe Toto is thinking of his retirement plans. He doesn't go to all the races these days, most of them he does. But, you know, he's got a kid thinking about his family.

He's probably got enough money in the bank. Probably got a couple of quill in there. So could well be, could well be. But we'll wait and see. I hope he's not, for William's sake. I think you make a valid point in terms of does he actually need to go to another team in order to prove himself? Because he's been doing that at Mercedes. He's obviously had this strategy role at the team for well over a decade now.

But he has been involved with, I can't remember exactly what his title's been over the last five years, but he's been a lot more entrenched with the overall direction of the team, almost taking on more senior responsibilities alongside his strategy work. So he's kind of already getting that experience at Mercedes about needing to go to another team. I do think it makes sense, though, because if he ends up doing a really good job for Williams, great. When Toto decides to call it a day, you can draft him in and you've got a good team

principal. And if he doesn't do very good at Williams, you can say, well, it's a good thing he wasn't very good there and not very good with us. So I guess it's a bit of a win-win for Mercedes. Do you think there's any truth to it being a succession plan, Sam? I think you're acting like Mercedes own all the cards. They hold all the cards. You know, this isn't some kind of short-term holiday exchange program

over the summer break when you come back at 15 years old and you've had the experience of a lifetime. You've got stories to tell. You know, it's, I went to Dagnam on my summer. Dagham. Well, I go, it wasn't Dagum. I'm big over the top. But, you know, Essex, some of less.

Exactly. I was born down the road. Come on. Anyway, my point being, Williams isn't Dagnum, right? Williams is in Essex. Williams is moving to a whole other country to settle down there and have a life and a family. You don't send someone like James Vowles off to what could be future, you know, being ambitious with this, but a rival team. That's what he's going to aim to be.

He's not going there for a year to two years to get some experience under his. belt. I don't think he'll have ever gone to Williams ago. Yeah, the intention is in 24 to 36 months. I'll take over from Toto back at Mosegis. No, I don't think so. I think if that was the plan, may have sent him off somewhere within the Masegis family to do something else, managerial, a different discipline or something like that to learn some proper team principal responsibilities. I think this is too much for a risk. And I don't think Mercedes take those kind of risks. I think if they're rolling the dice, they put a lot of bloody faith in what James Vowels wasker doing his future. I think James Vetter wants a chance to build his own dynasty,

his own legacy, his own. He's been the number two man, so to speak, behind Toto and several other key members of Formula One for nine on 20 years now, well, obviously not in the start of his career, but he's built himself up. So Williams is his own thing now. Williams is his own ability, his own creation, his own project. I think if he could be there for 10 years, he's and turn it into something special, I think he'd much rather than going, oh, yeah, I look for a little bit of William, saying, how I'm back, look at me.

I just don't think that works for him. I don't think that's a great message to send to people. So for me, no, this is a, he's there for the long haul, and he tries to make it his own. I hope everyone has written that down. Yep. Mercedes have not sent James Vow to Dagnam. If James Vowler is now spotted in Dagham,

I've had nothing to do with it. It's not in deal with us. Let us know your thoughts on the James Vow's appointment from Williams side. Let us know at the usual place. We're interested to know your thoughts. We're going to take a short break, and afterwards, we're going to be talking about Max Verstappen, making a return to being a talking head figure on Drive to Survive.

Sam, I love your... Oh, yeah. Makes an appearance like every week. Whenever I do an invitation of anyone? Oh, yeah. Every time. It's the same voice. They've all right.

So Drive to Survive is just around the corner. Season 5, I think we're on now. Season 5 of Drive to Survive. Yeah. I'm so surely, that's great. So Max Verstappen decided he didn't want to take part in the 2022 version. Obviously, he was in there because it would be really difficult not to put him in there at all. But he didn't appear as a talking head figure.

He didn't do any interviews. that seems to have changed again for 2023 based on the trailer that we saw. What's your thoughts on this, Sam, in terms of Vastappen changing his mind and going back? Well, he's a two-time world champ now, isn't he? He could do the dance on camera. You can do it in front of everyone. Look at that. Basically, I think that he got a bit fed up of the conversation around the controversy

that happened with Abu Dhabi, you know, alongside Hamilton. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Oh, don't know, mate. What happens? Oh, controversial. Anyway, I'm sick of talking about it. I'm sick of it. I think understandably, he's gone. I just want to get on with my life. I just want to move on. I don't want to now sit here and review a whole season full of controversy. And he now gets to talk about a year that for him, you know, it was a roaring success. Yeah, he proved to everyone, he's relatively quite. good at the old F1.

So why not? Why not sit there and have a chat about it? Why not tell everyone the ups and downs? Because the downs this year, you would argue, are pretty high on most other people's agendas. If I had the downs of a Max for Staffing Championship winning year, I'd be having a relatively good time.

But I don't. As I've mentioned, I have the downs of Dagnum. No effects going on in Dagnum. But I would come back the year it all went well. And I can't understand entirely why people would go, I don't want to be a part of that anymore.

I don't want to add to that narrative. I don't want to be involved in the questions that, rightly so, for Max Verstappen, aren't fair. He didn't do anything really wrong in that 2021 championship. You could question his defending style of driving Carlson the edge of the track. That's another conversation. But in terms of that Abu Dhabi controversy with the FIA, sorry, the Skewers deciding, he didn't do anything wrong.

And I see why he doesn't want to be involved in it. He's moved on. He's back. I'm looking forward to seeing him. Do you think this is good for, I guess, the show and then F1 by proxy, Harry? Yeah, good for F1 to have their world champion on the biggest marketing assets, I think. Top tip there for any of you aspiring marketers out there. I don't know.

Yeah, look, it's good for F1, the Max is seemingly back. would be hilarious if that's the only clip of him. He just sits down and is like, no, go away. I'll not do this again. It's another guy. Yeah. But, yeah, it is definitely good for the show. And, you know, Drive to Survive has its, it's, I don't want to say issues.

Downsides, maybe. You can say issues. No, no, I feel like issues too harsh, but, you know, issues. Please bleep out issues. because that would be really funny. Every time I've said it. Every time I've said what issues, put beep in there. Please stop.

Yeah, it has, it's had issues. And obviously, one of them being slightly fake storylines. So maybe there's come to some agreement that that's been polished out, because personally I would, even though it's funny, I'd still like to see that ironed out a little bit because it just seems a bit odd.

to do it. So given how many people watch F on and also watch Drive to survive. So yeah, hopefully that's maybe that's a reason why Max has come back. But overall, it's a good thing entirely. It was,

the show was so, but we saw it in year one when Mercedes and Ferrari didn't want to take part in it. The show is bigger in some senses than I think the teams and drivers appreciate.

I'm not saying they need it. that Matt's just happened doesn't need to be on the show but but I think it does him his image generally it does his image a good thing it does all the team's image a good thing so to be on it so you know

overall happy that he's back will be really funny that he's just for one scene and he tells him to Jeff off and then he walks out again I hope that happens love the chaos yeah obviously

it's not it's not a great look regardless of whether why he's made the decision it's not a great look that he returns as soon as he was winning a title without controversy um but overall it's a great thing um i i think he first of all vestappan has definitely has a right to speak out and not be involved and to and to say what he thinks on this because he's not wrong with pretty much all of what he's saying in terms of fairness, in terms of a negative portrayal of certain drivers and rivalries that don't exist. He's not making this up. We've spoken about it. Others have said it as well that at worst, some things are just flound made up and at best things are amplified. And I think when it's, you know, you get to the amplified stage and you're just, you're taking what's

already there, but just making the biggest deal out of it possible, that's absolutely fine. But when you start to make things up just for the purpose of your narrative, that absolutely crosses the line. And Vastappen's called them out for it, which I think he's absolutely entitled to do. And I know a lot of people think that this is very self-serving in terms of his move to step away and then to step back in when he feels it's right for himself. But let's also say that he has not just spoken out about Drive to Survive for his own right. He's also said it on behalf of others as well. Like I remember the Norris and Ricardo rivalry that didn't really exist. Vastappen did come out and say Norris's portrayal was not right. So, you know, he has gone to

bat for other drivers as well in terms of his overall opinion of what the show brings and doesn't bring to the world of F1. Fundamentally, it is a good thing. The only thing, I hope, beyond hope, is that his involvement does not come with an asterisk of any, I don't want to say creative control, but I don't want things not to be included that would be entertaining and factual because they want to keep him happy. The show is, I think, bigger than any one individual driver or team. You allude to the first season of Drive to Survivors. was great. Did anyone care that Mercedes and Ferrari weren't there? Not really. And I think that would be the case, you know, it's not like people didn't tune in last year because Vastappen wasn't on it.

And I think the same thing would happen if three other drivers next year decided not to be on it. The show is bigger than one person. So I hope they haven't just in a desperate attempt to get him on. I hope they haven't compromised what they're trying to do. Did you both watch it all last year? No. Yeah. I think I got to an episode Is there 10 episodes? I think I got to episode 8

and I think I just I kind of forgot about it, moved on. I think it I'm going to try and watch it all this year. I think I was so scarred by 2021 that I didn't I think I skipped a few episodes

although I did watch the last one which is probably the most scarring of the morn but I was just intrigued to see how it went down and tried to survive but I see how it goes this year. I don't think I'd lost interest in it. I just, I was just personal feeling of, I don't want to talk about this season anymore.

I think I did the same as you, just the other way around. I watched it as it was intended to be watched, episode one all the way through. And I got to kind of of episode eight, and I was like, oh, that's coming up. And I think I kind of just almost talked myself out of not going back to finish it off

because I couldn't be bothered to deal with more of that controversy. Not to, you know, teach the people that Netflix, how to suck eggs. But for me, it's released too close to the F-1 season. Yeah. Because normally they do it like,

well, it's the same again this year, isn't it? It's first to March, and then the first F-1 race is the sixth. And I'm like, I'll watch the real F-1. Not the real F-1. The live F-1 rather than the...

than the drama, not dramatized, you know what I'm trying to say, the documentary of it. I don't know. I'd have released it a few weeks beforehand, gives people time to watch. it boom you're into the season but maybe that's just me i i agree and disagree with you in that for my

own viewing pleasure i agree with you i wish it was earlier on but ultimately i don't think myself or you or any of us three really are the intended audience here because no we're we're watching f1 regardless of whether this comes out doesn't come out we're hooked you know we're suckers for life I'm afraid when it comes to F1. But when it comes to getting people involved who might not otherwise have decided they might want to give it a go, I guess if you are right before the start of the season,

you know that there isn't the chance of someone binging it two weeks before not having that, sort of cooling off period and then not picking it back up again. So, I don't know. I'm buzzing to see the Vettel Riccardo, 37 points. It's going to happen. It's going to happen.

A decade long battle in the making. It's going to be amazing. All right. We'll take one last quick break and then afterwards we'll be playing F1, higher or lower. Before we get into F1, higher or lower, I just want to apologize

for this episode because it has been an absolute farce. I'll tell you what, while you're at it, days. Why don't you apologize for episode one, two, three, four,

five, six, seven, eight, Please don't go away to 200 or whatever this is No, episode 9 was fine Episode 10 Very good Yeah, sorry, this has been crap But I think of a laugh Alright

Let's see if I can find my My hire all over and here somewhere He's not even got his quiz ready I mean, next week Next week will be better And next week will be better I've got it ready It's just in the same notepad

That I've been writing notes for this week's episode but I did the game two weeks ago, so I have to go back and find it. Ben, keep the momentum. I'm going to get a separate game's notebook, then this problem won't arise. Thanks, mate. Play the jingle.

Please play the jingle. F1. The last F1. Every time. All right, F1 higher or lower, a pretty simple concept in that I will give a question out to one of the guys

they'll have to give me the answer, which is a number. If they get it right, they get two points, which I usually say is fairly rare. I think the last time we played this, they got them all spot on, which was weird. That was bizarre. Yeah, it was really weird game. But that doesn't usually happen.

So if they do get it wrong, I then ask the other person, are you going higher than their guess or lower than their guess? If they get that right, they get the point. And if they don't, the person who guessed it, get the points. easy number one through six what number do you want harry

one please going back to the classic way of picking what number you want yeah all right ah you've picked the absolute worst one as well this is great you are going to hate this one you are probably getting it right now

he's going to get it exactly right if he gets this right I'll be really impressed okay Lewis Hamilton do you know him F1 driver pretty good at the F1 Yeah. I know, that's the geyser. I know him. I want you to take the number of races he's had for Mercedes.

Oh, right. Take away the races he had for McLaren and what number are you left with? What's the point? This is like GC-S-E-S-E math's question. I'm sorry, that's the worst one of the lot. He'd have. Oh, God. He would have.

How many times he raved from Mercedes? How many times did we raise from McLaren? I don't know that. You'll know it. Take a guess, mate. Oh, you take a guess. No. Well, I could take a guess, but I'm probably going to get it right, aren't I?

That would equal, um, I don't know. It would equal 178. That is not correct. Sam, you were wrong. He didn't get it spot on this time. Do you want to go higher or lower than 178? Right. When did he move to Mercedes?

2013, right? I'm not helping you. I'm waiting for one of you to confirm it. I'm not helping you. Oh, God. Don't get any out around it. Right, he started in 2007. So, so, so, so, eight, so, nine.

Okay, so there were less 20 races per season. So that's about 100 Grand Prix. I'm going to say it's higher than what Harry said. It's lower. All right. For whatever reason, I didn't write down the actual calculation on this. Goodness knows why I didn't. But the answer is 90.

So essentially he's done 90 more races for Mercedes than he has for McLaren. So, Harry, you get a point. I don't feel like I should based on how far the guess was out, but I'll give you a point. Give me the point. All right, there you go. There you go. Take it. There you go.

Sam, what number do you want? Number two, please, Ben. Number two, you won't have to do much more calculating. How many times did Michael Schumacher win in Germany? Oh, what is you going to say to wing? I'm like, I know that one. How many world titles, you know Michael Schumacher wing? Harry knows this answer as well.

I actually died. I don't know this one. How does it wing, Germany? Okay. Oh, can I ask a clarifying question, Ben? You can. Are we counting European Grand Prix as Germany? If it took place in the country of Germany,

then it's absolutely fine. It doesn't have to be the German Grand Prix. So despite it not actually being called the German Grand Prix, okay. Yeah, we're just talking about where to place. Right. I'm going to go with eight victories in Germany. That's not correct. Harry, higher or lower?

Lower. I have to say, I don't ever root for anyone in these games, of course. but I am quite glad Sam's got the point on this because it was a very good guess. He actually won nine, so he wouldn't have been correct, Sam was only one away from getting the double pointer, which puts it at one all.

Harry, back to you. Number three. Yeah, that's... What was that so hard? I can remember what you'd make. I can remember what you'd said last. Oh, good. As of the end of the 2002,

22 season. However, it wouldn't actually. Have you watched this game, son? How many drivers have raced for Red Bull? At the end, sorry, I was too busy being a stupid joke. What was the first part of the question? As of the end of 2022,

how many drivers have raced for Red Bull? Although that wouldn't change for 23 because it's the same lineup as last year anyway. Are we just saying Red Bull racing, not Toro or so, Alfa, Chowary? or so not after just Red Bull. They have different names. I can count this on my hand, I think.

One, two. Sorry, sorry, folks that are listening. This isn't good podcast audio. Yeah, you can't see fingers on a podcast. Luckily, you can't. Imagine if you can only see fingers on a podcast. Oh, God, I'm going to run out of fingers now. You're only born with four, to be fair.

Oh. 12. No, 13. First answer, I'm afraid. I couldn't count my own fingers. It's 13. Well, I think it's 13. It's not correct.

Sam, higher or lower? I actually, I was very similar to how he was going, so I'm going to go lower. Was it 12, Ben? I really hope that I haven't actually missed the name off because I've got it down as 12 and I'm going to down as low. I'm very sorry if the answer is actually 13.

No, no, you might be. I think I was struggling when I got to Scott Speedley at C. Christian Clean. Rob, Dorne Boss. He was in any drive for a bit, I don't know. Dawn Boss did. I don't think. Can you list them out, please, I don't know who you've got.

I haven't got the list it out. Speed didn't. Speed didn't. Speed didn't. He was Toro Rosser only. Too busy on eye racing. Yeah, he's cheating. He's not on ironsing, he's banned.

Still my favourite, favourite story that. Professional racing driver. What number do you want some? Number four. How many times has Fernando Alonzo made Q3? Just a knife. I was tempted to do the goat thing again there, but think it might be past its time on this episode.

So I'll save it for next week. Please do. That's a lot of times. I'm going to say he's made Q3 109 times. It's not correct, Harry. I'm going to say lower. Yeah, that's a fair shout.

What did you say, Sam? a hundred and nine if you say it's a hundred and eight i swear to god no i said what what did you say in terms of that being a fair shout going lower oh like it's lower it's going to be lower no it's way higher than 109 oh a hundred and ninety six oh i'm trying to play the game a little bit there i tried to be a bit like what will make harry hesitate not because i didn't know the answer well i i yeah i mean fair enough he had a lot of time in a McLaren Honda that didn't make Q3 if it couldn't make Q3

if it slapped itself in the face with it so yeah anyway. I'm sure they tried that at some point running that by doing. All right, 3-1 to Sam so backs against the wall Harry. What number do you want? What's left?

What number's left? You've got five or six? You've just gone in an order, as you always do. Again, not listened. Number five, please. I'm a shock. All right. What do you contribute? Do you remember the Tuscan Grand Prix in 2020 at Magello?

Vividly. How many laps were on it? Oh, God. Poor Robert Longer's finger. 67. There weren't 67. Sam, if you get this right, you take the win. Higher or lower.

I can't deal with that kind of pressure. If I get this right, the game carries on. That's how I'm playing this game. I'm going to say lower than 67. He's on it again. It's his lower. 59 is the correct answer. I was going to say 57, so I wasn't far.

Sam, what number do you want? Oh, he's good these days, ain't it? Ben, I'd like number six, please. Oh, go on then. How many hat tricks? So that's pole, win, and fastest lap. How many hat tricks has Lewis Hamilton had in his career? Nine.

Not correct. Harry, higher or lower. Don't know. Higher. Yeah, you just need to put a one in front of the nine, Sam, and you'd have been fine. 19. Oh, okay, I wasn't too far off. But even with that point, going to Harry, Sam takes the win, four points to two.

Well done. Oh, it's a good day today. It's not the same day we started the podcast on, but it's a good day. We have capped off this awful monstrosity of an episode with a great moment. We haven't finished yet. We still have a question of the week.

Oh yes, press bit Is F1 higher Is F1 lower Is that faster Is Harry slower F1 higher F1 lower F1

You're right Harry We are not quite finished because we've got question of the week I'll be question of the week Week. I genuinely don't think I dislike you both more than in that moment. We really team up to become a Mingus. Question of the week. We went for, unsurprisingly, another.

Basically, folks, question of the week is what comes into my random head. And this time it was, when we go to Texas in October, which of us is going to be arrested and why? Did you like any responses, guys? I'm just going to group a load on both platforms that simply say me for declaring, Yeha, too much. So that was about 80% of responses that we got,

and now we'll move on. Yeah, there wasn't much left after that. No. This is, I mean, firstly, great Instagram username, which is Fat Matatatatat. Yeah, it's a great name. But they said, Ben, for tucking his pants into his cowboy boots,

which is fair. He would do that. You would so do that. A stylish man, what are you talking about? Oh, God. One of my favourites, Ros from, again, great name on Twitter at I am boy leg. Also, it was just boy leg.

He was looking through some technically enforceable text and laws and he's come up with a reason for each of us. Ben would be a rescue for. feather dusting in public, which is a crime in the state of Texas. And as a very clean man, he wouldn't exactly do that. Harry would be a rescue for milking someone else's cow. I'm seeing him get his hands like a few others. So it's not in, you know, inconceive.

And I would be arresting for eating someone else's garbage or garbage, as we say here in the UK. So, you know, I'm a hungry boy. I eat a lot of rubbish. We don't, people, I promise. Someone also said sound for indecent sausage exposure, which again is a worry. It's a way for everyone involved. Vigigig Spiker says that Harry will be arresting for

thanks sitting and then being mistaken for a peeping tom. Yeah. Yeah. Quinn and Lloyd have said that it would be me for getting drunk and ended up in a heated debate with an opposing NFL fan. And, well, I would do, but actually the Cowboys won, won last night, so they're probably feeling all right at the moment. Wait, wait, wait, you mean the Dallas Cowboys?

The Dallas Cowboys won a playoff game, which is pretty remarkable, actually. Wow, is that good? I literally got no idea what's going on. What happens then? Basically, the Dallas Cowboys are like the Spice Girls, and they were only good in the 90s, and they've just been irrelevant ever since. Now, what you're going about? That's savage, mate.

I've got big beef with Emma Bonner all right. So they haven't done it for like 25 years, and they've actually won a playoff game. It might end. What does that mix? What does that mean? Oh, stop asking questions. Stop asking questions.

I don't care. I'm so bored of this conversation. There are 32 teams. There are eight teams left that can win the Super Bowl. They're one of them. Does that help? The Super Bowl. A massive bowl that you get to take home

and put all your pastoring, I imagine. Anyway, back to these. Someone said, They're cooking a massive pasta bowl. I would steal Big Shacks Cadillac for a joyride. So true. Yeah. And someone also said that a police officer

would misinterpret my niche British references as a threat. It could be done. You know, if I were to say very, very arsh to a police officer in Texas, I might be throwing in the clink. In the slammer. In the slammer.

I liked, oh, well, Matthew Bonner's comment, which was definitely Ben, because of his outright British bias, because, of course, and then just said, oh, well, let's get head of the podcast, Laura back on, and Laura would like to know

that that was her favorite one. Good. Well, thanks, thanks, Laura, but you're still banned, so that's not going to happen. You're banned. Even if Ben is arrested, you're still not going on.

Okay. Harry and Sam made this podcast asking to the black hole of content. We will run it into the ground first. I'll give it up, though. Oh, dear. Well, I enjoyed this one this week. I think this is a good question and some good answers.

Yeah, agreed. Time for the brilliant jingle. I'll be question of the week. We. I really have to hold on to that final note as well to get the harming in there. Sam, for the good of the health of literally everyone, please get us out of here.

If by some miracle on planet Earth, you've managed to make it to this point in the show, then pat yourself on the back, because you deserve it. Give yourself a gold star. Because obviously, we've struggled, so I don't know how you've coped. Thank you for listening.

We really do appreciate it. If you want to get involved in the conversation that's probably better than this one, then you can join the Discord, the links in the description below. Loads of F1 fans are in there. Of course, we're talking about our visit to Texas in October.

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