The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Late Braking F1 Podcast: 01/09/19

Episode Date: September 1, 2019

Race reaction from Ben, Harry and Sam as Charles Leclerc picks up his first F1 victory. The guys also discuss how Alex Albon performed in his Red Bull debut and the first lap incident featuring Versta...ppen and Raikkonen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to look out for new episodes every Thursday and Grand Prix Sundays. Hello and a very warm welcome. This is the late breaking F1 podcast post-Belgian Grand Prix with Harry Eid, Samuel Sage. How you doing, guys? Good. I need a lie down.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I think that's appropriate really. We were treated to another great Grand Prix. Of course, it has spun over the summer break, but it's about five good races in a row now. So entertaining stuff. Obviously, the main talking point from the weekend wasn't even a Formula One incident itself. I'm sure everyone who's listening to this already knows
Starting point is 00:00:53 the tragic news that came out on Saturday that Formula 2 driver Antoine, Bear was killed in a crash that happened at the top of Radion. Obviously, from all three of us, our forts, our prayers go out to Antoine's family, Antoine's friends and the rest of the F2 Paddock. And as a sport, I guess it's our time to mourn the loss and to learn from it and to ensure that safety is not something that is ever stopped. Safety is something you can always do more on. So, yeah, rest in peace, Antoine Ebert. And the scenes, I'm sure you guys will agree on the 19th lap and the minute silence before.
Starting point is 00:01:33 They were very respectful and it was great to see. I generally found it moving. Obviously, we don't know the young man that unfortunately passed right the weekend. But as with any community, especially the racing community, it was incredible to see the reaction both on track, off track and then its silence held. the applause given by the crowd and the reaction on the likes of Twitter genuinely found it the whole weekend quite upsetting, quite moving, but also incredibly
Starting point is 00:02:01 respectful and wonderful to see the whole community come together regardless because people do need to realise that road sport is incredibly, incredibly dangerous as you said Ben, safety can always move forward but it isn't ever going to be enough for me to constantly improve it, so I hope that was a race he would be proud of, I think it would be
Starting point is 00:02:17 but hopefully we can be on the up now But yeah, really sad, really sad. But as you said, for the three of us, the biggest of respects. Yeah. So the actual race itself, Shao Leclair, picked up his first Grand Prix victory, first Ferrari victory of the season. I remember a very, very clever person managed to predict that before the weekend happened. I can't quite remember who.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I'll get back to you if I remember who that was. Charles Leclair, first Grand Prix victory, perhaps not the Jubilee. celebrations he'd have been dreaming about because of the conditions of the weekend. But, Harry, what did you think of Leclair's win? Well, long overdue, isn't it? It should have come in Bahrain. It should have come again in Austria, potentially. Yeah, this has been on the cards for a long time.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And he dealt with the pressure of the weekend and, like I say, the circumstances very well because he knew Antoine from like a kid. And but then he also dealt with the pressure of Hamilton bearing down on him, which is, it's not where you want. No driver wants Lewis Hamilton, a fast Lewis Hamilton bearing down on him. So he handled that pressure really well and getting through all the traffic and a flying spinning off the road, Giovannazzi. He could chaos on that last lap. So, yeah, great race driven by him. He was, I think, helped by Ferrari leaving Vettel out.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I think Hamilton might have got him if that hadn't happened. but nonetheless he nailed the pole lap. It was so quick and quality. It was unbelievable. So yeah, fully deserve the win. And Sam, do you agree with that? Oh, yeah. I mean, if anyone was going to win this weekend,
Starting point is 00:04:04 as a lovely touching tribute, it should be shall be clear. I'm so glad he's finally to finally get the first victory. I obviously predicted him to win Trivers' championship this season. That weren't happened, but it is great to finally see him on the winners list. Ferrari's strategy this weekend was bizarre. they nailed it for chal lecler but the shock for me was when we heard over the radio
Starting point is 00:04:24 bettel please from out the way let lecler through i think anyone was expecting that to come so calmly so easily for ferrari uh he could have held up charlercler for a couple laps quite easily with the pace that bett was showing i i was worried that at that point hamilton would catch him would hunt him down easily snatch first place off of him but they played it brilliantly they left just enough time for lecler to win the race and vettel played a key part in that But in other hand, they did scurro up the strategy for Vettel's race points, but as a race wing, he played a very key part of it. So I'm very happy that LeClaire got the win. Yeah. And as has been alluded to, it was well earned. It wasn't a case of Shao LeClaire turned up, easily had the fastest car, felt no pressure whatsoever and took the win. It was hard earned. Even though in qualifying Ferrari clearly had the best car. And that was proven by LeClaire being nearly eight times quicker than both his teammate and anyone else. In the race, as was seen on Friday, Mercedes race pace was better than their qualifying pace. And that came to fruition on the Sunday. And yeah, maybe he was helped out
Starting point is 00:05:32 by Vettel, but I think Leclair, the way that he dealt with the pressure that he received from Hamilton was great. He didn't quite get the same amount of pressure as he saw in Austria when he did lose the win. But it was starting to head to a similar scenario. So in Leclair's mind, maybe he's thinking back to the last point he could have had a win and it was you know very nearly had it couldn't quite see it through but this time he was he showed the mental strength as well as the sublime pace to get it done um we will talk about the the strategic implications of everything that happened and vettel being asked to move aside and being pitted much much earlier than the other three drivers at the front but from lecler's perspective it has been a long time coming um barrain he should have won
Starting point is 00:06:16 Austria he could have won. Baku, again, a big could on that one, but I think he had the pace to win there. And it's happened for him in Formula One, and maybe this will open the floodgates. Maybe this will be the first of a lot. I have no doubt that it will be. But as you said, Sam, Leclair, the strategy worked out perfectly for him, not so much for Sebastian Vettel, who had to be content with just fourth place off the podium. Do you think that Ferrari could have played that any better or do you think that they did actually nail the strategy based on the circumstances? In terms of a race-wing scratchy, regardless of who you want your team to win, it meant they got the race win. I don't think the clover won the race if Vettel hadn't
Starting point is 00:06:59 don't have the strategy he had today. In terms of Vettles' race, devastating. Vettel clearly had the ability to go on at least be seconded on the programme. Obviously not on the programme at all after both Hamilton and Bottas easily breeze past him. It's tough to tell. I think Ferrari have never been great at their strategies, especially in this hybrid era. That's been clear. I think they worked it well for the wing for LeCler, and that's what matters.
Starting point is 00:07:25 They got the race win, their first of the season. They can now say that they've taken home a victory, one behind Red Bull. Maybe they'll get another one next weekend. We'll have to see. And I think without Betel having that other strategy, it wouldn't have happened. So, yeah, I think it was an acceptable sacrifice to make definitely didn't fallback that far.
Starting point is 00:07:43 He still did well, still claimed a nice 12th. points. Or was it 30 with the fastest lap? Yeah, 30 with the fastest slap. So, you know what? I think it was an acceptable sacrifice to make, and they did well to claim that race went off the saying is he looked almost destined to take it had they not had the sacrifice from Vettel.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Harry, did you like how Ferrari played it? They had to. They had to get this win. So if someone has to take the soul and it was the person in the team who wasn't, who was the least quickest, and that was Vettel. so unfortunately for him he had to take the fault I said to you Ben before we start recording you have to try
Starting point is 00:08:20 and maybe Red Bull as well to take on a Hamilton they need two cars to take on a Hamilton to even beat him because he's so bloody quick that you can't contain him with just one car but with two cars at least they can hold him up
Starting point is 00:08:35 and then he couldn't catch the other one yeah so I don't know whether they nailed it because nailing it would have them as a one too but to get that win which they desperately needed and they should and they also secured it but they had to get this win in sparse so in terms of that yeah they did name it but a perfect strategy would have had to set peter as well but i don't think that was possible with his pace and hamilton's pace so yeah it was a necessary strategy yeah i thought they played it well i think they maybe could
Starting point is 00:09:06 have played it slightly better but in terms of strategic errors that ferrari have made in the past it It peels in comparison to those. And obviously it did allow Leclair to win the race, which is something that has alluded to them all year. And claiming, what, 38 points out of a maximum 45, sorry, 44, that's pretty good. Like you say, that, Harry, a one to would have been the perfect strategy. I think they were maybe trying to goad Mercedes into pitting Hamilton at the same time as Vettel. I think they kind of tried to lead them down the wrong path. because Vettel came in very, very early, lap 15.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And I think you could kind of see from there that it wasn't going to be the right strategy because those soft tires could go much longer than that. And it's just going to leave him in a position where the medium tires were going to be too slow to keep the guys behind him. So I think Vettel came in very early. And I think Mercedes did well to not react to that, to not falter. And Peter Eva Hamilton or Bottas, they stuck to their strategy. strategy, which was the right call.
Starting point is 00:10:14 In terms of Vettel being set aside for LeClaire to go past, I think that was a smart move. It wasn't an overly surprising move for me personally. I don't think there was any chance that Vettel was going to be able to keep him behind. And he was able to allow LeClaire to maximize his performance on the day, which was instrumental in giving him the victory. Without it, Hamilton probably would have caught him with a lap or two to go. I personally think they should have played it slightly differently in that Vettles should have been kept out a few laps longer and pitted around the same time as Hamilton. Even if he does eventually get passed by Hamilton, if they've got very similar tyre life, there's a good chance he would have kept him behind for a few more laps than he did. Hamilton, it wasn't easy for him,
Starting point is 00:11:02 but I think he would have had to work for a few more laps if they had very similar tire life. But I think that's kind of, it's by the buy. And they did fairly well. Obviously, Leclair's won the race. It hasn't worked out too well for him, but all in all, it was a pretty scrappy weekend for him. So I don't think he can have too many complaints himself.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Obviously, Leclair had a very good performance, not the only guy, though. Driver of the day, worst driver of the day. Harry, the driver of the day. I'm torn on this one between Norris, Manorna Norris, and Alexander Argon. I'm going to go with Norris because that McLaren didn't look like it was going to nudge the top ten all weekend. It was just never going to happen. And then he had a mental start, got into fifth, and then just stayed there.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I just wasn't going to let go of it. until the car decided to keep it had enough. So yeah, I'll go to Lanojmi. Really impressive drive from him once again. So, yeah, Lando. Sam? So I had pretty much the same selection as Harry there. Lando, it's stellar job.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You know, absolutely heart wrenched. You can see him pull over on the line with one lap to go. Thoroughly deserved to pick up that fifth place. And what a drive from him. But because, partially because Harry's giving it to Lando, I feel the other man does deserve recognition. The man that took Pierre Gassley's seat, he's only been there for two weeks,
Starting point is 00:12:31 hasn't done really any driving at all other than this weekend, a brand new team comes in, cut through a field where his teammate has binned it twice in the first three corners, and it's a track that isn't made for Red Bull. Those straits are shockingly hard for that Honda engine. It's still the slowest engine, but it did so well. He cut through that field brilliantly, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:51 He got forced off the track to have the camel straight on the last lap. That's hungry investigation right now as we speak. I think he cuts with the field so brilliantly well. I'm impressed by what he did. He didn't get on the podium like I predicted, but his race was equally good, if what better than what I was hoping for him. So it's a great start.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Hopefully he carries it on. Hopefully he continues to progress like a dig. So Albon for me, driving a day. Yeah, and I'm going to give it to, I'm going to give it to Lando Norris. I think Alexander Alborn had a fine race, but I don't think he had an exceptional race. In terms of a debut, I think it was brilliant from Albu. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:34 But he was helped a lot by circumstances that happened around him. And I think Lando Norris, you could argue the same for him to an extent. But once he got that grasp on fifth place, he was never going to let it go. And he was able to maximize his performance really effectively. And it was heartbreaking for him that he broke down on the final lap. He's had quite a few results this year that have been marred thanks to incidents that have happened late on in a Grand Prix. So, yeah, very, very unfortunate for him. Yeah, I'm going to give it to him.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I think Leclair deserves a mention as well, obviously. And I think Nico Holcomburg does have a shout as well. He did very well on that two-stop strategy. He committed to it early and he really made it work. He made up some real ground in the last few laps. I've got some good overtaking moves done. So, yeah, I'm going to give it to Lando. Sam, who have you got for worst driver of the day?
Starting point is 00:14:35 In terms of worst driver, I'm actually going to just give it to a whole team, and that is the American outfit, Haas. I mean, disastrous weekend for Haas. Qualified 10th 11th, I think. Really solid. It's got bad for them. And Magnuson seemed to have just been nowhere. The car really wasn't performing, but my God, it just dropped like a stone.
Starting point is 00:14:56 being thrown into the world's longest pond. He just kept falling and falling and falling. And it was such a struggle. And then Grojean, who was on tires, around the same age as cars around him, a little bit older, but still, was right on the back of a battle in the midfield and we just heard him wing and why.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I mean, he had a point, but the way it came across was just miserable. That team is in a shocking state of affairs right now. I don't know what they're doing with their car. I don't know what they're doing with their drivers. They are moving thoroughly back towards the back of the grid. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them as the car in front. of Williams in a few races time.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So, Haas, generally for me, was just disastrous. I'm sorry, Harry. Yeah, I agree with them on Hasse. They were not great. The other person I was going to say was Max just happened. I know it wasn't in the race very long, but it was just, it was pure clumsiness.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And we've got used to Max being so unclunzy. He used to have a few incidents now and then. But yeah, he had a dump start, and then stuck his nose in at LaSauce, which I don't know, it just didn't seem like it was ever going to work, and inevitably there was contact with Kimi. And then even then, it's clear he could see the steering was broken,
Starting point is 00:16:09 but he still headed towards A Rouge, which was strange, and then inevitably ended up in the boonies. So, yeah, not a good one from Max, but, you know, it's not like he's going to pick up a 2017 max all over again. But, yeah, just a bit of a scrappy race, well, very short race from him. I don't think you get, sorry. Totally agree with you, actually, Harry, about Max.
Starting point is 00:16:31 What are stupid things to do driving towards O'Rouge and Radion with your steering broken when there are cars around you skier? Well, he could clearly tell it was broken because he said it and the wind of not doing anything. After we have had one fatal crash, disastrous heartbreaking, and we had another crash thing in the F3 race, which could have also been disastrous if it wasn't for the halo. He decides to throw his car into one of the fastest corners in Formula One without any steering capabilities.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I think that really showed a lack of intelligence and lack of forward thinking from Max Verstappen what we've come to expect better. I don't think that's acceptable. He nearly connected with the Alpha and Maya and Max will be disastrous. Yeah, that was way too close for comfort with the Alpha and I'm actually going to give it to Max Verstappen as well.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I understand the point on the hash drivers. They went backwards all day, but to be honest, that car is just not good enough. And it's really difficult for them work out because they are running basically two different cars at this point of the year. They've got the January spec, or the first race of the year spec with Grojeon, and they've got the more recent one with Magnuson. They just can't evaluate when, you know, what's going right and what's going wrong, because Grojeon can, Grojan was solid in the first part of the race
Starting point is 00:17:47 and then fell back, and Magnuson was able to recover in the second half of the race. One performs well when temperatures are high. One performs all right when temperatures are low. They just have big problems at Haas. So I'm going to avoid two guys there and give it to Max. You can't win a race at the first corner, but you can certainly lose it. And that was really proven with Verstappen's incident. Maybe just an edge of frustration after he got a terrible start to the Grand Prix. And he was dropping back a couple of positions. He decided to throw it in there. And you know, Kimmy Reichenen was already halfway through turning the corner. He had nowhere to go.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Max Verstappen. It was clumsy. It was unnecessary. And he would have made back those positions in time. So perhaps he was a little more demotivated in this Grand Prix because he knew there was very little chance of victory. But yeah, it was an unwelcome return to Vastappen of old. Like you say, I don't think that's going to start a trend.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But, yeah, he's cut out those. mistakes quite well, but just not on this Grand Prix. So, Max, obviously and Kimmy having that incident, might as well get into that right now. Sam, do you 100% believe it was Max Verstappen's fault? And also, do you think that he should have some sort of repercussion for his incident, well, not his incident, but going up O'Rouge knowing that his car was not in a fit state to get around the corner? Let's start with the incident. We all plough into the source, turn of course, that's far from a shop.
Starting point is 00:19:23 it's a very collective corner. The cars really gather. It's a short run. So everyone goes in as a pack. Max knows that. He's driven that track enough times. Kimmy left the door open, but I wouldn't say he left it open anywhere near enough
Starting point is 00:19:35 that you would be able to put all four wheels onto the curb on the inside of that corner and be able to run the car around properly. Four and one cars don't have that turning circle. Again, Max knows that. And Kimmy is unable to see Max in the rearview mirror at that point. He's going to be focusing around the other side parts of the track as well.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He's got a lot of cars around him. So I don't see how he's always going to have one eye down his incite side on Max and Stapman at the start of that race. I wholeheartedly believe that Max is now mature enough, he's experiencing enough, he's aware enough to go, this is a 44 lap race. I'm going to break. I'm going to follow Kimmy down the straight. Maybe I'll get the DRS and pass him, Bing.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Like you said, Ben, you can't win the race on term one. You can most certainly lose it. In terms of repercussions, I don't think there should be any repercussions for turn one. It was a silly mistake. Kimmy was able to technically finish the race, although it was a horrible race for him, but it was a silly racing incident. Max's fault, but a silly racing incident.
Starting point is 00:20:28 The thought process, the anger he must have been experiencing a fight of all of his home crowd fans to drive towards Ravion and O'Rouge, scaring so clearly not working. You can see him frantically flailing in the cockpit to try and get the wheel turning. One wheel is off at a camber,
Starting point is 00:20:43 it's facing the wrong way almost, and he just clips the back end of the alpha, which knocks his wheel clean off as he goes through the corner. That could have so, easy being a full flip of that out for America car if you could have been slightly further forward. That could have been another fatality. That could have been life threatening for that driver and for himself.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And after the weekend we have had, he needs to be sat down and said, you know what, mate, you just can't do that. It's not good enough. I'm really quite appalled at how dangerous that was from Max O'Suffling. And I think maybe some kind of penalty for next race to demote him to the back of the grill or something like that, or maybe some kind of community service that isn't just go and watch Formula E would maybe be a good kind of punishment to go think about your actions on track before you're delivering them on track because again that curve in life ranking and my goal we would not want to see
Starting point is 00:21:30 another incident where a driver's health and life is in speculation uh harry yeah um like we've already said we've already touched on the first corner was just clumsy from max they didn't need to chuck in there i know he's frustrated from the bad start but he knows he you know, he knows from Austria. He came from whatever, eighth place or whatever he was to still win. Yeah, so I've played that on fully on Max. Kimmy was left enough space for the Force India. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I'm like Crofty. Trying him. Like the racing point. So there was, he left in a space for the racing point. There was next to him. And then suddenly, out of nowhere, a Red Bull was slithering up as inside. Yeah. So fully, Max is felt.
Starting point is 00:22:20 the going out to A Rouge thing Yeah, I don't I'm not entirely sure if he didn't know Then fair but he was clearly Wiggling the steering wheel you see on the Onboards he was clearly wiggling the steering wheel And the wheels weren't doing anything And Rundle touches on it
Starting point is 00:22:35 In commentary saying what I don't know why he did that Yeah he just needs to be I don't know it doesn't deserve like a penalty or anything Just don't I sit down go look that was That was silly and like Sam says He almost connected with the alpha which was a bit too close for comfort and considering the events of the weekend
Starting point is 00:22:53 not a great sight. So yeah, just not a great one from Max. It was his fault of the term one corner incident and yeah, he just needs to have a sit down and just someone tell him, don't do that again. Yeah, I think in terms of the first corner incident, when you go head into LaSource, it looks like the gap is much wider than it is
Starting point is 00:23:17 at the start of your breaking action. But when you really get down to it, the gap narrows and narrows and narrows. And Vastappan knows that. He's been involved with the first turn incident before. And we've seen it a number of times over the years where someone will think they have enough room to go up the inside of Las Sauce,
Starting point is 00:23:35 and then the gap just goes like that. It shuts. And rightfully so, because Kimmy Rikinen has no need to dart to the left to get out of the way of Max Vastappen, who can't be bothered to be paid. As we've said, it's a 44 lap Grand Prix. There's no need to go and try and play hero on the first quarter and win it. He had a bad start.
Starting point is 00:23:59 He would have no doubt got past the cars that were ahead of him because of the poor start. So there's no point in risking it and throwing it in there when, you know, we know Kimmy Reichen. He's not going to yield there, nor should he. I think it was clumsy. And it's really the one. bad point that Vastappen's had this year. I can't think of another mistake that he's made, which, you know, says volumes about Max Vastappen and the improvement that he's had. So,
Starting point is 00:24:27 you know, fair play to him. But yeah, it was just an unnecessary one. The run-up to Radyon and O'Rouge, particularly with the incidents of the weekend, I think it was, I think it was unnecessary. Yeah, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know that it was going to snap. you can't really account for those things but he was having difficulty with it on the way up to Radyon so yeah he I agree with you Harry
Starting point is 00:24:55 he kind of does need just a just a quiet word in his ear really to say it's a very fast corner you know the car's clearly not performing in the way in which you would expect it to perform and you've got an alpha Romeo literally directly on your left just just watch out there
Starting point is 00:25:13 But yeah, I agree. I don't think there was any need for a penalty. And it's a shame for both drivers, really, because Max Verstappen, it'd have been interesting to see how he featured in that race. It could have been a boring fifth place for him, but you never know. And of course, Kimi Reikler loves the circuit too. So it would have been interesting to see him get in that midfield fight. He may well have led the midfield, but I guess we'll never know, really, on that one.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And going from Max to Max's teammate, Alexander Albion, his debut for Red Bull. Harry, how do you think he fared? Really well. Look, really punchy. He pulled off some really great moves. The one on Perez was spicy, and Perez squeezed him,
Starting point is 00:25:57 and he still went on the grass and overtook him because he wanted that fifth place. It was six at the time, but Norris had broken down. And the one on Ricardo, too. Not many people go around the outside of Daniel Ricardo, and, yeah, Albon did. Yeah, so, look, already he looks punch.
Starting point is 00:26:13 in the Red Bull than Gatsley did. I thought Gassley looked more punching and saw Ross and he's looked in the Red Bull all season anyway. But yeah, impressive debut. He had to start at the back, well, pretty much the back, with the engine penalties, but still, yeah, still finished in fifth. With some luck, but you've got to be in it to win it,
Starting point is 00:26:31 unlike his teammate. So, yeah, really solid. And I think Helmut Marco and Christian Hornel will be very happy with their choice, I think. Sam, how do you think he got on? Well, he is my driver of the day, as you may have heard earlier on. I think he did fantastic well. Starting dead last on the grid in a car that isn't designed for this track,
Starting point is 00:26:55 straight line speed is essential around Spa and that Red Bull is definitely laughing in that. But he did so well as capitalising. His middle sector was fantastic. He really had a control on the car, despite only being there for a couple of weeks. I felt like he really understood the car. and yeah, Ricardo had tyres that were as old as the race itself. But, I mean, to still go round the outside of that off-canned the corner and then down through Ix really showed that he had a full grasp of that car and which potential could be. And we haven't seen anything like that from Gassley so far this season in that Red Bull.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Speaking of Gassley, he just seems to understand Tora Ross said better as a driver. I'm not sure it is. Maybe the pressure's off because he had his best race in the season in my opinion. He had a fantastic drive. it was great to see him fighting with a big film and coming out on top on many occasions he scored points he scores as many points in this race as he has done in some of his red ball races so a great try from both those guys maybe a little more happy i'm glad album's back in that car i think he really deserves to show it off if he doesn't have a great performance in monsor where the car again is not suited to the track
Starting point is 00:27:56 then i really think that they can stick with him and max as the partnership for 2020 um yeah good stuff he just showed consistency he was calm he he he kept his good at that album is good at being a calm, strong-minded racer. Yeah, I think as far as starts to a Red Bull career go, he did pretty well. And conditions did help him. It did help him. There was no pressure on him in qualifying, thanks to the penalty. So he could kind of go out there and just use it as an extra practice session, really.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And after Max Mustafa went on the first corner, there was no real barometer in terms of the Red Bull camp. And started from the back, he gave him. him the freedom to just go for it. There was no real expectation. If he starts the Grand Prix in P4 or P5, then suddenly you're expecting him to hold position at the very least. If he starts down in P18 or whatever the starting position P17 was, it just gives him the freedom to attack, which was, it was wonderful to see. He pulled off some great moves. The one on Ricardo that you've mentioned was the move of the race for me. That was fantastic work from him, even though Ricardo at the time was struggling. He overtook in an unconventional area. There will be tougher races for
Starting point is 00:29:13 him, even though the circuit itself doesn't suit Red Bull. I think he was the beneficiary of some midfield shenanigans. So obviously he had the first corner where he managed to make up loads of positions thanks to the Renaos and Kimmy and Max all getting involved in that. And that play to him, I mean, he avoided all of it. So, you know, he gets. gets a tick for that. And then his strategy helped him a lot, as seen by others who started on the medium tire. Kaviyat had a really good race. Joe Venazzi was, you know, set to score a point or two as well. So, yeah, I think there will be tough for weekends ahead for him. But as a debut, I think he pretty much nailed it. So congratulations to him. He didn't seem daunted by the prospect
Starting point is 00:29:59 of being in that Red Bull, which the same can't be said for Gassley in his first race in Australia. So a good start. We'll see how he does in the following races. Nice. Yeah, I think the nodded heads, I'll take that. Usually it's the opposite. It's usually what are you on about? We're always total agreement on this one.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It really does make change. Yeah, I mean, I'm slightly frustrated that one of us is still acting like a smug kit about predicting a Ferrari dominance here. Who predicted that? someone that isn't even part of this call i think definitely definitely the majority of this call going wrong yeah i think you're right sorry me and harry we'll get you one day ben
Starting point is 00:30:53 smug doesn't suit you ben wow yeah i think that's a fair comment to be honest before my head explodes i think you might as well get us out of it so yeah uh if you have enjoyed um what we brought to you today in terms of whether you're watching on the podcast, on YouTube, whatever you follow us on, then please stick around for some more. If you haven't followed already, then follow us, subscribe to us, get down on the links below in the video and see us on our other socials. It's wonderful to have you along every single week. We'd love to hear what you thought about
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