The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Late Braking F1 Podcast: 05/09/19

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

On the show this week: We preview the 2019 Italian Grand Prix, debate whether Nico Hulkenberg and Kevin Magnussen could work together at Haas, and ask whether the current calendar is too much Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the late-breaking F-1 podcast. Make sure to look out for new episodes every Thursday and Grand Prix Sundays. Hello and a very warm welcome. This is the late-breaking F-1 podcast. We do love a double-header coming out of Belgium, going into Italy, the Italian Grand Prix this weekend. Guys, we do love a double-header, don't we?

Excitement all around. I mean, seeing anyone with two hags is pretty mental, but two F1 races in a row also screams excitement. It does indeed. We've got a pack show. We are going to be previewing the Italian Grand Prix. We said bold predictions involved in there. We're going to be looking at Vettel's comments about whether 16 races is too much. Sorry, if we should go back to 16 races. We've also got a F1 back and forth, which if you haven't seen one of those before, we'll explain more. later in the show. But starting off with this, Niko Holkenberg, Kevin Magnerson, something of an F1 rivalry. But it's interesting how the silly season works out. And there is at least a chance that the two of them could be teammates next year. Of course, Nico Holcombberg will not be racing for Renault,

could well move on to Hass. And of course, Kevin Magnuson is at the Hasse team at the moment. Now, based on their previous relationship, do you think it would be a good idea to partner them up? can you see it happening? Harry, what do you think on this one? I think if that's his only option and he wants to stay an F-on, he'll go there, so it won't matter. I think it'll be an interesting dynamic because, yeah, they don't get on. But then I do think, is there any driver that actually gets on with Kevin Magnuson? Maybe the driver that you think is friends with Kevin Magnuson. Jan Magnuson.

His dad doesn't go. Yeah, so maybe it's just a case of you just have to get on. with it and as long as they don't knock bits off each other, then it should be fine. But we know a lot of teammates that don't get along. And that's even before, that's not with history. They just end up not going on. So he's got to go there, he's got to go there. And I just have to suck it up.

I'm trying to use that phrase. Yeah, anyway, I think it'll be okay. But it'll be an interesting rivalry, I reckon. I think there'll be fairly evenly matched. Sam, can you see this partnership happening? Well, Hars are pretty much in the biggest crisis on the entire grid in terms of a whole team effort at the moment. I mean, Williams are the slowest car on the grid, but I think as a team, they're calm, they're happy with things, their drivers are content being together. Russell's leading the team where they've got the experience of Kibica and also be Claire and the lot are pulled together.

Whereas Hars, on the other hand, are not the slowest car on the grid, but their drivers fall out, not massively, but they don't agree on everything. They often come together on the track. The car is useless now. I know I do with their going with R&D, they need your focal point. Magnuson has got some raw talent. You can't think like he can be quick on his day, especially as Saturday, he can be good on qualifying. Holgerberg, so consistent. I think as long as all ball-shaped objects are kept out of the garage while they're in there together, we should all be fine. And I actually would love to see an inter-team rivalry between Magnus and and Holkenberg. I actually think they're

quite alike. You know, I think the pair of them across their careers are quite similar. Magnuson obviously had that shot in the McLaren and never really went anywhere. Never really got that shot. Maybe Renault was that shot again. That's letting him down. I would love to see them go Wilter on the same being of machinery, maybe to settle that rivalry once and for all. Who really is the quicker of the two? I think it could happen. I think Goodster Steiner does not care enough any more about his team's relationship to say no to it. I think he just wants to get that card back in the right direction. So yeah, I can see it happening. I'd like to see it happening. I'm a little bit tired of Grosje on being in that car now knowing about it. So Brinon the Hulk Magnuson box off. Spectacle. Yeah, box office spectacle is absolutely right. I can see a case for not wanting this to

happen and I can see a case for someone saying that this shouldn't happen because there are a number of problems as we have established with HASS in terms of their car, but there's bigger problems with the team at the moment in terms of, it's a fairly noisy team. You've got the rich energy sponsors. That whole episode is well documented. I mean, it doesn't reflect well on HASS at all. What they need is stability. They've got Grogon and Magnuson, who at points this season, have vocally come out against the car during the race and said that this isn't working, having a rant. Magnetons was in Canada. We had Gron last time I had in Belgium.

So you can argue what they need is a stabilising figure and a stabilising partnership. Magnuson-Hulkaburg is not a stabilising partnership based on their history. So I can understand why you wouldn't want this to happen. But ultimately, I think it should because if you are Hass who have got Magnus, and Grojean right now, I don't think you can turn down a driver who is as good as Nika Holkenberg for where they are. Nika Hulkenberg is not a front of the front of the pack driver, but for a midfield team where Hasse is right now, he does the job.

I would say that it's a really difficult one because they are in such a mess. And I did guess that Ocon would go there. But obviously that has turned on its head as Ockon is now going to Reno. So I do think that instead of that, Holkenberg will find his way to Hass. Holkenberg has said himself, he is not done with Formula One. And I think he would,

what's more important to Nico Holklenberg? His rivalry, if you want to call it, that with Magnuson, or being in F1. Being in F1 is much more important. And if you were to ask him, okay, you can stay in F1, but you have to bury the hatchet with Magnuson. He would do it without a moment's hesitation.

There are just more important things at play here than some, rivalry. And to be honest, it hasn't really been a rivalry for a while now, you would say. It happened a long time ago, this Hungarian incident happened post-interview. So, yeah, I think there is a very realistic chance that happens. Doesn't necessarily mean that Gunter Steiner shouldn't be worried about it, but I think it is manageable and it's worth the risk. I mean, the other option, of course, here is, there's two other options. Magderson goes, Grojean stays. I don't think that's the chart. I don't think Gunders Steiner likes Roman Grojean as a driver, as a personality in the car. I'm sure they will get along flying out and about down the street at the French Cafe having a baguette. But I really don't think they get along well when it comes to actual engineering racing discussions. So I feel like you're right, Grojean will be more the likely the one to leave than Kevin Magnuson. But is there the option that they both get kicked out of their contracts in the next year or so?

And Holkenberg feels a spot maybe for a year or two to finish up his career. and they draw off someone else then. There's a lot of young Ferrari Academy drivers coming out through the ranks that are doing well. There's also a lot of drivers that are looking to move up in the ranks. I'm sure that the likes of I think Russell would go there.

There's a lot of paid drivers floating around the outside that definitely could impact a team like that. Again, likes of Jack Aiken, maybe he wants to break out that Renault contract and get himself in a Formula One car. There's lots of Ferrari driver young driver programs who are looking to get in that car as well. I wouldn't be shocked if both Mangerson and Grosian

are dropped within. in the next six to 12 months. Yeah, I think it will be interesting to see how that one unfolds. Had some already decided seats, but Haas remains very much open. Moving on, so at the Belgian Grand Prix last weekend, excuse me, we saw Michael Massey brandish a black and white flag for, and not the checkered flag, I should point out. That also was brandished, but it's a different black and white flag.

And this was to warn the drivers. Essentially, they're going ahead with a black and white flag, which would act as a yellow card, so to speak. Charlie Whiting was very against this. He would rather go over the team radio and just explain to the driver that what they're doing isn't right. Massey seems to be going ahead with this yellow flag, sorry, yellow card kind of thing,

and then obviously a penalty would follow after that. Sam, do you think this is a good way to go? I mean, for Newcastle, fans, it's great. We just get to pretend that one of our team shirts is being waved over the side. Of course, yellow cars come quite frequently for us. In terms of Formula One, I like the idea. I'm a little worried that there could be some uncertainty. If you're on the track and you're in a battle and you see that black and white flag waved, then there might be cause for concern it. The driver behind, and the driver in front goes, oh, well, I've done something wrong, questions

over the radio. There could be a little bit of course for concern it. But I do also like think it's clear for the driver when they do understand what's going on. You get two warnings, like you say a yellow card, one more penalty. You're done. People who, like Charlotte Clare, he mucked up the laycom section, went straight over the outside run off of the chican. Didn't go around that outside bit. It came up at the top of the screen, you know, noted, no action taken.

I feel like if he got that black and white flag, that careful, don't do that. You're fine, but don't do it again. Do it again. You pick up a penalty. I think that allows drivers to be aware of what limits they're on. Everyone gets the same amount of restrictions. well, you know, you get two of those, every race, that's a penalty.

So I think overall I like it, but I do think there needs to just be some real clarity on who's getting it and for the reason why they're getting it and to make sure the measurements are the same across the grid. Harry, what are your thoughts on this system? And one that sounds clarity point, that I guess they would put up the numbers, they do. They've got the signs around the track now. So I think that will probably be okay. And then I guess they give a team radio as well.

I don't see why not it happens in other forms of motorsport you see it in like go-karting and stuff so it's a tried and tested method it's not really I don't think it doesn't make much difference it's just rather than being told over the radio you get told via a flag

and it's kind of more official I suppose then yeah got no problem with it if it keeps drivers from cutting corners then I'm all for it yeah I think the one issue that they would have with the system obviously if you compare it to that yellow card in football

is that it's very visible in football. If someone gets a yellow card, you know about it. The referee is in the middle of that pitch with the yellow card right above his head directed towards the player. The back and white flag was for Gassley at the weekend. I mean, didn't anyone see it? There's not a lot of visibility there.

There's not a lot of accessibility for the fans. I would like to see perhaps both systems kind of combined together. So you do have that black and white flag mainly for the driver, but you then also have the radio message where it is very clear on the radio message that this driver has received a warning.

And at that point, it's just more information that the viewer can get. And if you know that that person has some sort of warning, maybe in a battle for the lead or something like that, that can add to the excitement of it because you know that that person cannot afford to make some sort of mistake that would give them an advantage

because they could be penal. for it. I really like the idea of that, the viewer idea, but I do think we should utilise the fact we've got this wonderful graphics on the screen, flash up on the screen, black and white flag, warning, Pierre Gasley, cutting, turn number three. It takes 30 seconds to whack up on the screen. It's clear for every viewer at home. I definitely think, Matt, you're right, is probably the biggest concern, letting the audience know what is going on as a grand scheme of things. Yeah, I think Michael Massey overall has not done a huge amount to, it's not really been an upheaval from Charlie Whiting system, but maybe this is the first thing that he's going to implement.

It's quite different. So with the Italian Grand Prix coming up this weekend, we ask the question. Lewis Hamilton, can he return to that top step? Mercedes have won this Grand Prix every year in the hybrid era. Can they continue that? With Ferrari's top speed, of course, with that having them, giving them the win in Belgium, will it give them the win again in Monza? Sam, do you think Hamilton has a chance of winning this race?

I'm very nervous of whoever I predict to win the race because I don't think I've really gotten more than one right this season. I always try to play the risky card and go, ah, yeah, at the start of the season, Hamilton's going to do it. Obviously, Ferrari were a little close bar, Rangio. I kind of said that Ferrari would take it. Felt a pot.

And I often try and take a punt on Ferrari to go well, but I'm going to do it here in Monsor, the Temple of Speed. They will wing at Monser. The Tophosi will go mad, and I think that Sebastian Vettel is going to be able to wrestle it away from Lewis, Hamilton. I think Hamilton will put up a massive fight. I think once again, the strategy,

the cornering speed, whether our call is, of course, in Monsang, not too many of them, he's going to still playing advantage to them, and I think Red Bull are going to struggle. Toto Wolf said earlier on in the week, for those that read it, that he feels like Red Bull at the start of the hybrid era, with the lack of

straight-line speed that he has in comparison to the Ferraris, where Red Bull had in comparison to them four years ago. I think that's a slight overstatement, considering how good their car is and how well they performed in this, but he has a fair point. The top swing of that Ferrari is mega quick. And I really do think that if Ferrari can get their strategy correct

and work together as a team, they generally could pull off a one-two here. Harry, how do you rate the chance of Mercedes and Hamilton compared to that of Ferrari? Look, he's always got a chance to win, as Lewis Hamilton. He was only a second off winning last time out in Belgium. So you can't write him off at all. Ferrari, yeah, sounds right, they probably should get a one, two.

With the straight line speed they've got, they're going to, we're barring any unforeseen circumstances. They'll lock out the front row, I'm pretty sure of that. Yeah, Red Bull, I'm going to be anywhere near it anyway, and for Stapton starting at the starting of the back, so that makes things even more difficult for him. Yeah, so it's going to be tougher Hamilton, but again, we saw last year Ferrari lock out the front row, and then he still took the win.

I wouldn't write him off. He's got every chance to win, but it's going to be tough, I reckon. Yeah, I think obviously, as I alluded to, Mercedes have won this race every single year in the hybrid era. So if you're going to base it on recent history, then there's every chance that

Mercedes win again. But of course, there is one thing different this year compared to the previous five. They don't have the best power unit. And they've had the best power unit at a circuit where you really need the best power unit for so many years, and it's just not the case in 2019. You know, especially in 2014, 2015, Mercedes had such a dominant engine that nobody really stood a chance against them at the Temple of Speed. But now Ferrari have such a great power unit that it's going to be tough for the likes

of Hamilton and Bottas this weekend. Now, I think Ferrari's biggest enemies so far this year have been Ferrari. You know, they've been in a number of positions to win races. Finally, they got it right in Belgium. but so many times before Belgium, they have tried to get it right and they have failed. Just think of Bahrain as the main example. They've had reliability issues in qualifying all year. So I think it's Ferrari's race to lose, but there is every chance they could lose it because of, you know, how they've been in terms of reliability this year.

And if that is the case, then Hamilton is the number one candidate to fill that role and to take advantage of Ferrari's misfortune. I would say that Mercedes, yes, Hamilton was very close to winning in Belgium, but I would be surprised if he has as close this time out, just because the middle sector was really saving Mercedes in Belgium. You know, Ferrari had such a massive advantage in that first and final sector. It was the middle sector that was keeping Hamilton in it. You aren't really going to get that with Monza. Okay, you've got the two Lesmos, you've got the chican before the two Lesmos,

but apart from that, it's pretty much straight all the way. So Ferrari, with an upgraded power unit as well, and again, that does feed into the reliability thing. Will it be functioning correctly? But if it's working, they should win this race. And for Ferrari's sake, obviously it's in front of their home fan, so they'll want to win, you know, of course you want to win in front of the Tafosi. But how many more opportunities are they going to get to win this year?

If they don't improve that chassis, you know, this could realistically be their last chance to win in 2019. So, yeah, I think Hamilton, there's every chance that he'll be there to take advantage of a Ferrari mistake. But I think Ferraris, this is theirs to lose. So it will be really interesting to see if they get two race wins in a row. On the back of that, time for some bold predictions. Harry, I would go to you first, but no doubt you haven't even thought of one. So I'll go to you first, Sam.

Mine isn't going to be Engelang-era's bold last week, as it was last week. Although I was so nearly right. and I generally think they could have been a chance for me to be completely right. So I'm going to still be relatively bald. I think that an Alpha Romeo car will finish in the top four and will beat the Red Bull team. Well, that was literally my bold prediction. Wow.

Damn it, Sam. Okay, fine. Do you know what Ben come back to me? Because now I actually do have to pick the one. This is really interesting. thing, but my bold prediction is really similar to that as well. My bold prediction, I would say it's slightly different, but not right a lot. I think Kimmy Reichenen will qualify and finish within the top five.

Wow, we have all three of us, high hopes for the Alpha team. Yeah, I think that power unit can really help them, and obviously Vestappen not starting anywhere near the front. I think Rikern will take advantage of it. Yeah, he was incredibly good at In Spa as well. So, Harry, have you got anything new? Stappan won't make it into the points Oh wow

That is a big bold prediction actually I mean you're right Top speed we'll be down Well obviously Yeah but I mean Maybe you'll get involved in a crash No I'm saying no crash Oh

On the pace or off the pace I should say Wow With all those sphezzer engines flying about Literally in the air of wings Yeah I mean I could see it happening. I know the Red Bull car is obviously a lot better than the guys that they'll try and overtake, but not really in terms of top speed.

I can't wait to see their like T-Trey wings as well. I feel like I should almost be a limit on how small you can make that rear wing. No, I like it. I think they should have a T-T-ray wing at every race of the year. It'd be so so fun. No rear down horse for you, Sunny Jims. I hope there's a team one day called Sunny Jims. and they have one driver called Sunny and the other one. And they both co-own the team. I think the good thing here is that we haven't got off topic.

Yeah, exactly correct. Yeah, yeah. Let's go back to the grid. Yeah, let's get back to the grid. So on the back of those bold predictions, we'll go for poll, one, two, three. Harry, who've you got? Poll will be Charlotte Claire, and then one will be Sebastian Vettel. Two will be Shadaclair.

Three will be Mr. Hamilton. Interesting. I'm leaving you, Seb. Come on, Sunshine. See if you can get the job done. Sam. So I think pole position will be chocolate acclair. I think the winner of the race will be Sebastian Vettel. I think second place will be Lewis Hamilton.

And I think Ferrari will messing up. They'll sacrifice the driver as they seem to always have to do. shall will finish in third. Interesting. I'm going to go for the same pole one, two, three that I predicted in Belgium. I'm going to go, Shaula Claire for pole. Shao LaCla will win the race. Sebastian Vetter will finish second for a Ferrari one, two, and Hamilton will be third.

Well, you were the closest out the log of us last time, so we shall see how it goes this time. Yeah, I think everyone's kind of banking on that top speed. It will be very, very cruel if those upgrades are just don't. work or if they're unreliable. You can never tell with Ferrari. No, you can't. But I think that Ferrari are going to leave Charlotte Claire out too long. And then Hamilton's going to take full of vartage of the retifilio, the Lesmos, the scari, parabolica. Just as little cause where you can really gain a lot if you're on those fresh tyres. I think he'll jump in. I really think that they're going to sacrifice a driver once again because they panic when they're up front

at the moment. They need that security back in them. So I think they're going to struggle again because of strategy. So moving on now, Sebastian Vetter. He has come out and said that after the F1 calendar has obviously been very recently announced for 2020, that it should be a 16 race calendar, which is a fair few less than what we're getting right now. Sam, are you in a line with what Vettel is thinking? Do you think there are too many Grand Prix right now? Do you think it's about right? Or do you think we can even have more?

As a racing fan, I generally think as long as we stay pretty much within the confines of the current season times, fill it as much as you want as a racing fan who loves to watch motorsport and racing. I mean, I don't get a life. I don't get to see my family or my friends at the weekend, but I'm willing to sacrifice those things for more Formula One. But I do understand that the people that work within Formula One doing a break, they do need to see their family, they do need to not travel constantly. And it's incredibly environmentally damaging the way the calendar is laid out.

There needs to be a more eco-friendly layout to the calendar. You know, all the Asian races at once, flights of Europe. All the European races at once, fly to the Americas, all the American races at once. It's a terrible layout. It wastes a lot of time and a lot of environmental damage is done. But, sorry, Seby Vett. 16 races is for the week. Bring them on.

I love it. Do more. Maybe not literally 25, 26, which we definitely could have if we really push for it. But I'm happy with the fact that we're including more and more Grand Prix at the moment. Harry, what's your view of this one? I don't agree with 16 races, but I think we might have already hit the too many mark, especially next year with 22 races I think we're going to have. I think you just start to make some races irrelevant in a way,

because there are races on the sum, raises on the calendar that I can't see many fans would miss if we didn't have it. So I think we could reduce it. 20 is good. 16 to, I think that's not enough. but yeah and like sam's said to think you've got to consider the people that actually work in f1 as well go flying around the world yeah so i don't agree with them on 16 but i think maybe we are getting to a point where we've got slightly too many especially when we have races like russia and spain spain i'm sorry i get one more point actually for ben captures everything perfectly i'm sure he will um what if hamilton wins the championship on race 16

and then we've got six, seven races with absolutely nothing to play for. That does kill the excitement. Yeah, yeah. I was about to disagree with you then. They realised I agree with your point, Sam. I was like, yeah. No, I don't agree with that. Your instincts kicking in to disagree with Sam.

No, Sam's wrong. Oh, no way. Oh, yeah, so that's my other only concern about it. Yeah, I think Vethel has a good point. And I think he has a different perspective to it than what we, can bring in that he is in the paddock he is involved with the team he can see what it does to the morale of the team he can see what it does to the energy levels of the team and you know there are people saying that if there are many more races they are going to have to start switching out guys within their

team in order to make sure everyone is healthy all the time which so there would need to be consequences if the calum got even even busier i think we're on about the right amount now maybe one or two too too too many. Of course, Formula One has a calendar which is much bigger than the other top motorsport series in the world. If you look at Formula E, it's nearly double the amount of Formula E calendar and you look at IndyCar as well. NASCAR's got a load of races, but NASCAR doesn't count. It's not a motorsport series. I'm kidding NASCAR. Just joking. Calm down. Yeah. So they do have a bigger calendar the average motorsport series. And the risk you run with that is that the

magic of each Grand Prix, the experience of each Grand Prix, does diminish slightly. The more Grand Prix you have, the less the less the impact of the one individual Grand Prix. You know, if we had five Grand Prix per year, the anticipation for each Grand Prix would be higher and the excitement for each Grand Prix would be higher.

And likewise, the other way, if we had 45 Grand Prix a year, the average excitement for each Grand Prix, would be much lower. You know, the Indy 500. Why is it so exciting? It happens every year and that's it. It doesn't happen five times a year.

It doesn't happen 20 times a year. So I don't think you can get too many before you start to really diminish each one. I think right now we have a good mixture on the calendar. So we've got plenty of classic European circuits. We've got some great destination Grand Prix, if you like. You know, Mexico City that happens at the same time at the, Day of the Dead Festival. So I think they do a really good job of hitting those destination cities as well as maintaining

these classic races included in that. Obviously, Monsa has been announced until 2024. So, yeah, I think the calendar is looking pretty good at the moment. And whilst I understand Vettles 16 races is the optimum, I think 2021 is actually spot on. Good. I feel like we will actually agree on this. It makes a nice change. So we're going to completely destroy all that goodwill because we're going to have a game between you two. F1, back and forth.

The rules of the game are very, very simple. I will ask a question to which there are multiple answers and you will keep going back and forth with right answers until one of you gets an answer wrong or you can't think of an answer. I love it. There are 21 correct answers to this question. Thank God it's got an even number. That would be awkward. So I have to see who wins this one. Sam will kick off with you. Drivers who have been on the podium at Monaco since the year 2000. Oh, poop. Let's go easy. Lewis Hamilton.

Lewis Hamilton has not been on the podium. Oh no, I've lost on round one. Well, well done Sam. Hamilton has been on the podium since 2000. Harry. David Coulthard Does love Monaco does DC he is on there Sam Daniel Ricardo Daniel Ricardo four times

on the podium at Monaco already Harry Jensen Button Jensen Button three times on the podium Sam Niko Rosberg Rosberg Four years in a row he was on the podium

Harry Mark Weber Mark Weber, he did love Monaco as well. He's on the list. Sam? I'm nervous about taking a punt. Oh, Michael Schumacher. Michael Schumacher has been on the podium at Monaco since the 80,000. Was it a punt? Harry?

Kimmy Reichen. Kimmy Reichen, four times. Sam. Sebastian Vettel. Sebastian Vettel tied most of Hamilton this century with seven. Great fact. Harry. Juan wonders whether

Juan Pablo Montemontoy's been on the podium. Yeah, he has. I mean, you answered your own question. Yeah, he has been on the podium at Monaco since the year 2000. Sam. Fernando Alonso. Of course.

Fernando Alonso is there. Harrison. Harry. By my calculation, you got about 10 left. Oh, bloody hell. I'm getting stuff already. I've got a few games that I'm unsure of. Sergio Perez?

Sergio Perez, 2016. He was on the podium. Glad you chose that one, because I never got that. Pun. Now I'm going to start taking punts. Rubens Barichello. Four times. Rubens Barichello was on the podium this century.

Yes. Harry. Barry Chello. Yeah, you've got eight names to aim for. Um, oh no. It's all coming undone. Uh, Valtry Bottas. Oh, you...

Valtry Bottas on the podium this year, of course. Oh, that was my next guess. Sam, you've had your guess ripped away from you. Do you have another? There are a few games on my tongue, but they are risking aims. Meika Hackingham. Mika Hakenen is not on the lid Harry

you claim victory on this one just about Valtry Botas bailing you out there Can we keep going? I've lost but can we keep going? Yeah, yeah you've got another seven names so fire them away far as

see if the pair of us can get all of them and of course if you're listening go ahead give it a go yourself at home see if you can be better than these two muppers Probably a better than me, most likely. Who else has been on the podium? Holy moly. Can I go for another punt?

Yeah. I'll go on, I go on. Yano Trilly. Yano Trilly. O'4 winner. I had Trulli on the tip of my tongue and I thought I'll leave it. Felipe Massa. Massa two times, yeah.

Yeah, we thought that. Um Oh Oh Shankalo Fiscikeller 2000 Yep He's all there

Now I'm running low He was on the podium in 2000 Yeah He was He was third behind DC and Rubens Oh Um We're getting really obscure now

Yeah you've only got Four left Rats Schumacher Schumacher, O2. My next guess was Ralph Schumacher. Now I'm struggling. Really struggling. Obviously, I did the silly one earlier, but that was a real pun.

It's going to have way more in the locker. That's stupid than me. Yeah. Can I think there are any freak accidents that put them up? I usually is in Monaco. Someone tends to claim me. I mean, should I just be silly? You say Max Verstappen?

Max Verstappen has not been on the day. I think so. He ruined him. He would have been without his town to it. here. Bobby K. Yeah, twice. 08 and 2010.

Quick Nick. Quick Nick, 2005. Yeah, that was the other one. One more. One more. We've got one more. We can get this. We can get it.

If you want the year, I'll give you the year. What's the year, Ben? 2001. Oh, blimey. I was only a boy. Harry would get this before I do. Could be wrong, but I think this was this driver's only podium of that season. Had plenty before that.

Eddie Irvine. Of course. And that is all the 21 drivers who have been on the podium since 2000. I think you did very well with that. That's a lot of different drivers, isn't it? Yeah. I'm happy with that. So I'm sure that game will come back at some point in the future.

so you can have more agonising moments about something that doesn't ultimately really matter. I mean, it's my favourite game to lose that. Yeah, I thought you might have this one. Seeing Harry struggle over Bottas, I thought this one. That's annoying. He kept nicking the ones I was going for. Anyway, we go again soon. Indeed.

So I think we can draw it to a close there. Sam, if you wouldn't mind, getting us out of here. Well, once again, folks, thank you so much. much for listening, for supporting us. It really does mean the world. Make sure you check out all the links. Follow our social, subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the light button. Tell your friends, I said yang last

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