The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Late Braking F1 Podcast: 10/10/19

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

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podcast. Make sure to look out for new episodes every Thursday and Grand Prix Sundays. This is the late breaking Formula One podcast. We're back to a trio. I'm joined by Harry Eden Samuel Sage. I'm Ben Hocking. Guys, how are you doing Japanese Grand Prix this weekend? Maybe. I am super pumped for the maybe Japanese Grand Prix. Oh, it feels good to be recording. It feels good to have the old F1 weekend back on again. I really hope there's a race. Even if it's torrential, have to run round with their race kits on. That'll be great. Some kind of race would be ideal. I think they need to, if it does pour it down with rain, they need to decide it with the boats, they go down the pit lane that they make, and that will be the winner of the Japanese Comprey.

Yeah, I like that idea. I really do. But of course, we are going to go ahead and presume it will all happen fine, even if qualifying has to take place on Sunday or something crazy like that that we haven't seen in a long time. And the question we're asking is this. So, for Ferrari and Mercedes have been dueling for victories very recently. Ferrari, of course, have picked up their form quite massively, which has left Red Bull slightly trailing behind after Max Verstappen picked up a few wins prior to the summer break. The question is, Suzuki might well suit that car. Can Max Verstappan, even with a bit of rain, can he get into contention in this race?

Harry, what do you think on this? I think he can. Yeah, he's even said himself that he feels pretty pretty. confident about his chances this weekend Suzuki's always been a Red Bull circuit you need a you need a good chassis and that Red Bull has got a good chassis so yeah I wouldn't roll him out at all

the last couple of races has been I mean they didn't expect to be strong in Russia but they weren't very strong in Singapore which was a strange one to be honest but yeah I reckon Maxi Vista I reckon we could have a three-way battle this weekend

I think Ferrari going to be in there as well it could be as long as it doesn't rain. It could be spicy. Yeah, Sam, do you think that weather depending, maybe a bit of rain, maybe not, do you think this happen's going to be in the mix in either of those conditions? First of all, if it chucks it down so much

that the session isn't on a Saturday morning and I've gotten up before half past six after working all week, I will be furious at the Japanese. I'm sorry, but I don't know. It's not that fault. It's not. Go on.

Secondly, you can't ever count Max for Stappen out. He is in the form of his life at the moment. He's turned it all around from last season where he was horribly getting in Crash for Stappen and he is really on a role. Even though, yeah, we definitely didn't support that. Not by us. No, no.

Even though he's not in that best car. He is by far the best driver in that team and he is still one of the best drivers we've seen in Formula One for quite some time. So you can't ever discounting, wet race, especially. We saw that Brazil performance, I think it was, in 2017, where he was cruising from the back of the grid.

It overtook everyone pretty much. You know, wet lines, left, right and centre. He picked the carting way through. It was incredible to watch, so don't count it out. But we're actually like he's the only good weight driver here. Sebastian Vetter got his first ever wing in the wet in 2008. Yes, in Monsa, in the Toro Rosso, of course, absolutely soaking wet, but what a drive from him to soak a wet.

And, of course, Lewis Hamilton, the likes of Silverstone, where he had one. of his best drivers of all time in the pouring rain. He's also a rain master. Let's not forget. So, yeah, don't you wrong. The Red Bull has a good chance around here, but the third sector is very top speed orientated. So it may not be the best part for them.

And in the rain, he's not the only great on the track. So, yeah, he's got a chance, but it's not like he's anyone out there. And I would love to see the Staff of Vettel Hamilton all collide, you know, head to head, side by side for a lot of the race in the pouring rain. This is a real test of a driver's ability. here in Suzuki. And we have to remember that Max Verstappen,

if we're talking about recent races that have had rain, he did pretty well at Germany. So Max Verstappen definitely does have the form book in terms of weather, and we know he can do special things when it is chucking it down with rain. What I would say is this. Max Verstappen over the last few races

hasn't really been in contention. Redboard been slightly behind. Of course, Alexander Albin has been adjusting himself to the team, so he can't really expect him to be fighting the Merck's and Ferrari just yet, but Vostappan hasn't really had a clear run at things since the summer break, really, whether it's been through grid penalties, which aren't necessarily his fault, or, you know, his own doing, referring back to Spar. So he, yeah, whether it's been his own fault or not his fault, he hasn't really had a clear run at things at a circuit, which really suits

the car. You could argue Singapore was probably his best, best shot since the summer break, but for whatever reason he just wasn't involved. Maybe it was that he did have the race pace to contend with the front runners, but the qualifying pace just wasn't there regardless. It would be interesting to see how they do here at Suzuki. I think they will be strong. I think Vastappen will be in contention for that win. You are right in what you say, Sam,

that Vestappen, whilst he is looked at as a master in the rain, there are other drivers who are also exceptional in the rain. You mentioned Sebastian Bettle, Lewis Hamilton, up until Germany, his record in wet weather races is just tremendous. I think that's probably for me his most underrated quality, Lewis Hamilton, how good he is in the wet. I think people recognise it, but don't quite recognise to the extent at which how good he is when the weather is poor.

And of course, we don't even know if it is going to be wet. I mean, we're all presuming that the hurricane is going all around the place. We don't really know. It might not even hit at all. we might have clear running in all sessions. But it's going to be very interesting, especially if practice is taken away from a few of these guys, how that will alter proceedings.

So Mercedes obviously won last time out in Russia, breaking that streak of Ferrari, maybe slightly fortunate in doing so. You can either err on the side of fortune or on the side of skill that they knew what to do with their strategy. Harry, do you think that Ferrari will reassure their position ahead of Mercedes? I don't think they'll be ahead.

Their position ahead of Mercedes has been so slim that is barely ahead, is it? The previous wins have been only just, basically. I think they're not going to be as strong in Suzuki as they have been, but I think they're going to be up with Mercedes and Red Bull. It's going to be tricky for them, I think. going to be

going to be a well I said it already it's going to be spicy between all three teams and Chuck Leclair what he's how was it

I don't really remember his race last year apart from they ran into the back of Magnuson yeah that's the only thing I can remember really

it was one of his more average races yeah yeah but anyway Vettel is he loves Suzuki I mean all the drivers

love Suzuki but he's he's always goes pretty well here so yeah you can't write them off I don't think they're going to be

the fastest car, but they're going to be in the mix. Sam, I mean, they were very, very close to winning four on the bounce last time out. Didn't obviously work out that way. Do you think Ferrari will go back to the top of the pecking order? So I think after we finish the likes of Spar and Monsa, I have said that this is still a trap that definitely suits Msegis, but we've seen the difference in horsepower that Ferrari are able to emit from that power unit, and it really does cancel out what Mercedes have when it comes to corner exit speed,

mid-corner speed and slow cornering. Their acceleration is so strong and out of the saying is their grip and just ability to keep the car staying. It's fantastic. But of course, Ferrari are just so powerful down the straight. After the recent turn of events, I would have said, actually, that this might be the closest race between all three of the top constructors we are going to have this season. I think different parts of this track suit each car so brilliantly. I mean, 1.30 yard after spoon curve is perfect for the Ferrari. As is the start, finish rate.

that whole first sector is fantastic for a Red Bull. And that middle sector where you come out of the, I can't about the two calls. It's called the two right handers when Michael Schumacher parks it up under the tunnel, retired in 06. And then through the hairpin up to Worspoon Curb is so perfect for a Mercedes Chassey.

That I genuinely think this could be such an even match. I think we're going to see like a purple red bull sector in the first sector and the Sege's purple sector in the second sector. I generally think it's going to be so, so, close. So I almost can't call who I think is going to be on the front row of this grid. And I'm not sure I can call who's going to take the wing. I am so excited if this one goes ahead, hopefully weather permitting, because I generally think it's going to be one of the most exciting races we've seen across multiple constructors in a long time.

I think even with the weather, whatever happens there, I think Ferrari, the key to their race will be the first 30 seconds of the lap. I think it completely depends. on how well they go through the first few corners. Because obviously it's very technically difficult, those left rights and the Degner's as well. And it's not really until the hairpin, where they can start to prove their advantage in terms of their power unit proficiency.

Because, you know, you go up to the hairpin, from the hair pin down to spoon curve, they're going to have an advantage there. Spoon curve, pretty much all the way to the Cassio triangle, they have an advantage there. and of course the start-finish straight. So Ferrari, I think, will be ahead even in wet conditions. I think the wet weather will be somewhat of an equalizer for Mercedes.

If this was definitely going to be a dry race, I would be saying right now, I think Ferrari will line up one, two, and I think they would probably go on to win the race. I think the wet weather will work in particularly Hamilton's favour, but also Vastappen and maybe Bates's favour too. But yeah, I think this is all balls down. to that first sector. Can they match Mercedes? They don't need to match Mercedes in that first sector. They just need to be even a 10th or two behind is fine. As long as they stay within touching distance,

their power unit will do the rest in the last part of that lap. So yeah, can they get through those corners well enough? I do wonder if Mercedes are going to have to employ a slightly clever tactic and maybe tow each other down the back straight towards 1.30 on the Cassio triangle and get right out the way as they go towards the Cateo triangle, just to balance out that top speed difference. I feel like that is the only way at the moment that the likes of the Sages and Red Bull can really counter up that inmanx power that Ferrari had in a straight line. Yeah, maybe so, maybe so. Should we do some bold predictions?

We do like some bold predictions. Sam is now pretending that he is bold. Harry, have you thought of one or should I just go to Sam first? Go to Sam first. Have you got a bold prediction? I do. I think there will be three safety cars. And on top of that, I think we will see a turn one pile up that takes out at least three cars.

I mean, all about the threes in that bold prediction, but that is fairly bold. Three safety cars, that is still a lot, even with the weather. I think it's just going to be so tricky for everyone. I mean, we saw Germany. I know that caught people off guards, but Japan is notoriously hard. You get one corner wrong. It is, you know, you're beached like a whale in that gravel, or you're straight into a wall,

or you hit the side of the tunnel. Anything could go super wrong for a driver that's not on their absolute best around the wet Suzuki circuit. Okay, my bold prediction is this. I'm going to go for a good weekend for McLaren. Oh, you bastard. I'm going to say they will pick up at least 18 points between them. that means that they're going to finish at least fifth and sixth.

At least fifth and sixth. At least fifth and sixth. That's my prediction. I mean, starting off not being that bold, I thought, oh, yay, good weekend for McLaren. But that is a spectacular weekend for McLaren, I think. I think there will be a few retirements. And Sines and Norris will be able to work their magic, probably insulting each other all the way around. and then yeah

I think they'll make it work they're both really solid drivers been they're on great form so yeah I'll go with that well following on from that my ball prediction is that it's a wet quality on Saturday and there's a McLaren

in the top three oh baby it's a triple I'm trying to think the last time that was a thing it's got to be Austria 2016 isn't it

yeah penalties. I mean on pace. I mean, on pace, it's going to be what, 2012, 2013? Yeah. Like that, I think that might be the boldest of the lot. That is really bold. I think so. But of course, Harry, of course, is never right, so that won't happen.

Literally not been right one. So if you want to get down in the comments, I guess how your bold predictions, I'd like to have a look at those. Maybe we'll have a conversation with you guys in the comments about who has got the boldest in the comment section. And of course, we do care about who's right as well. So if you put a ball prediction Come back on Sunday and say

Ha, told you so. Poll 1, 2, 3. Sam, who have you got for this one? I'm going to say, poll position goes to Sebastian Vettel. I'm going to say that second place is Luis Amr-Den and third place is Max Vastappen.

Oh, I did qualify in 1, 2, 3. You can tell I've been off for a week. Oh, I thought you were That was actually my race order Apart from qualifying So I think Vettel will qualify in pole I think Hamilton will then win the race I think Stappen will be second

And I think Vetter will be third Who have you got, Harry? Got a Hamilton pole And then Battle will win Hamilton second The Stack and third I am going to go with a

Hamilton pole position. I'm going to go with a Hamilton race win. I'm going to go with Sebastian Vettel in P2 and then Max Wastappen in P3. Hold on, hold on. Earlier on, then, you said that you think Froy would lock out the front row? In dry conditions. Oh, okay. So it's wet in your weekend.

It really is wet. Okay, that does change everything. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, Hamilton is an absolute star. And we all said Hamilton to win. Wow. I said Vettel to win. Oh, right. You had him as a poll, though, didn't you?

Yeah. I mean, he's having a good weekend regardless, and chances are this leads on to him pretty much taking the title very, very soon if he has a top two finish here. Be Vettel? No, Hamilton, you plonker. Triggered.

You plonka. Triggered. Let's move on to something else. So there have been chatters about a new F1 team in 2021. Actually, multiple perhaps new teams in 2020. No. Just make it up.

I think you could, if there is a chatter, there can be multiple chatters. I don't think this is the important part of what I'm saying. There is the potential to be a new team in Formula 1 in 2021. Sam, do you think that there, should be a new team. Do you think there's a chance this comes through? Because F1 themselves have tried to distance themselves. Yes, bring on all the new teams, please. One, just to help Williams, let's hope that a team comes in and may are worse than Williams, just for one season at least. Also, it just means good business. It means excitement. It means generation of new fans and new areas

in the world. And I don't really care who it is. I'd love it to be a key manufacturer, you know, a BMW to come in, an Audi, a Porsche, these are only German companies, Honda to step back even though they've said they don't want to, maybe a Toyota, it would be awesome to see these people re-emerging Formula One. But if it's a new team that is just a purchasing team, not a constructor, then I am really happy with that. I would love to sit. I've seen more drivers get the chance because there's a lot of great F2 drivers out there who are really stepping up to the pace. And I think that a 22, 24 car grid is great. I really enjoyed it when it happened, you know, I have 10, 15 years ago now, I've missed it. So I am all up for another team. I think it throws up

a lot of questions when it comes to engine allocation and who's going to supply who. But I am interested, very keen. Bring it on, lads. Harry, what do you make of all of this? Yeah, why not? I absolutely think we share more than just one team come along. You want, well, I know it didn't work out last time with the three new teams, but if they, if F1 looked after them properly um it it should they should be able to team should be able to join if they want to and there should be it's because it's linked to campus isn't it so it's the step up from f2 which you know uh like edie jordan did that's what he did with his f3 000 team back in the day he just built a bigger f3,000 car and then stepped into f1 so yeah teams should be able to um make their intentions clear about

joining and full grids i like a full grid i don't want to have too many cars do we have to have pre-qualifying us no point in that no point people turning up to go home again but um yeah we'll bring it on lads more competition love it yeah this is a really interesting one first of all i cannot understand how formula one the f1 media they have instantly tried to distance themselves from this i can't fathom they're doing this we've had one team in what the last six or seven years enter formula one the elite of motorsport and just one team has been able to gain access to this series and now there might be the potential of another team and f1 media were right on it saying no we haven't been any any talks they're not serious why are you distancing them yourselves i i don't get it but um

whether this is a serious thing or not i think we definitely do need to see one or two more teams in Formula One. At the moment, particularly with the point system, 50% of cars are getting points in races. I think that's slightly too high. Of course, a couple more drivers on the grid will help with that. And I think perhaps the most interesting thing about this, presuming they do come in at this stage, is how they enter Formula One. Do they enter in the same kind of way that has have done in that they are pretty much a satellite team? They don't really create anything in-house, everything they get is either Ferrari or DeLara is one or the other, or will they try to be a constructor, a traditional constructor in the like of Williams?

They have said that they would, at least in time, want to be more of a Williams than a house, but of course that would represent difficulties straight away. They're not going to be able to get up to speed even with this potential cost cap that's going to come in. I think that's probably going to be the deciding factor as to whether they do or not. But yeah, they seem keen. The drivers that they've put forward, it would give Pascal Verlain a potential road back into Formula One, and I think he absolutely deserves a second chance.

So that's good. The other driver, I believe, would be Alex Palau, is it? Which peel out like rice. Yeah, Alex Pilau Rice, yeah. Yeah. Alex Buzz Matty Wright. No, sorry, one more. Yeah, I don't quite understand why he would get in the north.

I presume money because his record doesn't really indicate he should be in Formula One. And then, of course, we have to ask the question as to which manufacturer they're going to go with? What engine manufacturer? Of course, Renault will now not be supplying any other team. So there is definitely capacity for Renault to provide them with a power unit. And I know I've just said that that's probably what the driver lineup will be. but association with Campos, Reno potential Renno power unit,

there's a Jack Aitkin theme going on there. I wouldn't be surprised if that works its way out. Yeah, I'd love to see this new team. I don't know whether they'll be competitive. Presumably with a cost cap, they won't be that far behind. Will they initially go down more of a Hass route, possibly just to make ends meet for a few years? But yeah, I'm always up for fresh faces.

want to see the introduction of another power unit as well. Whether they create a team or not, I'm not bothered. But I just think four is got enough, especially if we have a couple more teams join, you know, obviously Honda conservance another team, Rang can service and a couple of teams. That's great. I think we need another major power unit, whether that be VW, whether that be BMW, Ford, or something like that, you know, Corvette stepping, or they power by Ford. Someone will tell me in the comments. I know that they're not Pollo. Pojo. Yeah, let's get a Pogio. Honestly, Posho are a motorsport, you know, phenomenon. They've got such racing pennies. degree. So if they do want to come into the sport and I would

actually be all for it. I just think it's all going to go having more cars, but I also want more suppliers. It creates much more choice, much more drama, much more to watch and care about in Formula One. And that's what we want. More access. And if the cost of caps provided and the regulations are made simpler, maybe that does open

the door to a Suzuki works team or something along the likes. I don't know, but there is... The Swiss. In they come. Swift business. That's what they can call their team. Honestly, I think a fantastic thing. And F-1, FIA, you know, Chase-Carrie should be jumping in there, supporting anyone that shows an interest in joining F-1.

Hashtag Asia Tech, by the way. Absolute engine power unit. Like, come on. If not Asia tech, let's get in Mechacrome. Mechrome. Bringing back the real MVP's. So final one for tonight. This Lewis Hamilton Ferrari rumor is just never going to die, is it? Even after Lewis Hamilton has moved on to Pastures New, even when Lewis Hamilton is basking in retirement in his mid-70s, this rumor is still going to exist that he will end up at Ferrari.

He's actually had something to say about it, but he believes that whilst it's not on his radar right now, he would change how Ferrari acts. He would change Ferrari for the better. Sam, do you believe, hypothetically speaking, if he did go to Ferrari, he would be the key in order to turn them around back into a winning team? It's a very odd situation, this Hamilton-Friar relationship, because a lot of people seem to want it to happen. Yeah, Hamilton is probably the drive on the grid that receives the most hate from the public. And the To Fossey, I know it's all a bit of kind of, you know, theatre-esque drama, but a lot of them really do boo him and dislike him on the track.

But then the moment he leaves and there's a room goes, they're like, Hamilton in the car. Hamilton in the car, that's an option. Hamilton has got fantastic pedigree when it comes to joining a team and making them better. He's also got fantastic playground when they're all about to hit their decline and joining a better team as to playing the two teams he's raised for in Formula One. He has got fantastic knowledge when it comes to how to build a team. He's brilliant at team spirit.

He's so good at motivating the people around him. It's always positive vibes with old Louis. is Hamilton and I generally think he could have a really good effect on Ferrari. I don't think he'll ever go there as a driver, but there's nothing to say he can never be there maybe he's an advisor, maybe as part of a team, maybe as, not maybe a team principal, I don't think he's made for that, but maybe it's almost like a Nicky Louder character who occasionally appears in the garage, gives advice, helps the drivers. I just think he's got a really kind-hearted effect on people around him and he gets a lot of slack for it. I think Ferrari need that. They're so pressurized.

I think Hamilton has the ability to relax people and just bring out the best in them. I think he has that chance to do so. I don't think it will happen personally, but I really think he actually could improve Ferrari, although there might be a lot of animosity there being such a massive Mercedes legend now in the World of Motorsport. Harry, do you think Hamilton would be the key for turning around Ferrari, and do you think there is any chance it would happen? I don't know what – it could happen. And I think what's important to remember with Ferraris and especially with their fans,

they don't, to be honest, they don't really care who's in the car because they care about the car. It's all about the car. And once you're in a Ferrari, it doesn't matter what you did in the past. You're in the Ferrari folklore. So even Hamilton, who the Tophosi don't like, I think even if he moved to Ferrari, they would still take to him, especially if you started winning races and championships. Yeah, I agree with him. Sam, it's a tricky one.

It'd be a weird one for him to do this late on in his career, go to Ferrari now, especially trying to help him get back to Winnie Ways. I think if he was going to do it, he might have done it sooner. But, yeah, Hamilton absolutely could help them go back to winning ways. But then we've had Vettel there. We've had Rykid. I know Rykner wasn't in his 2005 form when he was back at Ferrari again. they're top quality drivers, and they've not managed to do it.

So I know Hamilton is a special driver, but there's nothing to say that he would be any better at turning around their fortunes, because there's only so much you can do as driver. But anyway, I'd love to see it, basically. It'd be great fun. And when was the last time we had a Brit in a feather? Eddie Irvine doesn't count, does he? I think he does. He's Irish. I think it was Northern Irish.

Oh, okay. I didn't know whether he raised under Irish. He might have done, and if you did, apologies to all those Irish people out there and we've offended them. Yeah, that's Japanese and the Irish. Yeah. You're doing a good job. Maybe you have to go back all the way to 30s. I don't know.

Yeah. Oh, Nigel. Yeah. Oh, Nigel. Sorry, Nigel. I mean, I've been held by Eddie Irvine, and I can't remember what nationality is. Did he not feel? Did you not tell?

I couldn't sense it. Well, it's a good thing this hasn't gone off topic. Ben, what are your thoughts on the Hamilton Ferrari rumours? I don't think it's going to happen unless Mercedes Leave F1, which isn't that crazy to think, even though according to Eddie Jordan's timeline, that happened three years ago. Just to stick up for E.J. on this one, he did predict the McLaren Mercedes rumors a couple of months ago. He did. I didn't, yeah.

But that one is still ridiculous. He does probably get more right than he gets wrong, to be fair to him. But he got that one really wrong. That was a massive whiff. Yeah, so if Mercedes did end up leaving Formula One, which there is a chance they are becoming more invested in Formula E, maybe with the cost cap that would drive them away. In that case, maybe he'd move away. Maybe he'd move for other reasons, for non-racing. reasons such as would it give him not only the opportunity to win a championship same as

Mercedes but would it give him the opportunity to develop himself as a brand we know he has other interests outside of formula one and he has interest in developing that even further um of course Mercedes do give him quite a bit of creative freedom in terms of his relationship with like tommy hill figure would would Ferrari give him that kind of same kind of deal and would they allow him to be the personality that he wants to be, in which case maybe he'd move for those reasons. But do I think he would change it, as in the culture of Ferrari and get them in a winning way?

I do. He did it at Mercedes. And I'm not saying it was 100% his doing. Of course it wasn't. But Hamilton is a serial winner. Wherever he goes, he wins. He's won a race in every single season he's competed in. And I understand why you can make a case that,

Alonzo couldn't do it and Vettel couldn't do it. So why could Hamilton do it? I don't know. I think they are in a better position to succeed now compared to when Vettel joined the team and compared to when Alonzo joined the team. Alonzo did a sensational job with what he had at his disposal. Vettel has been up and down.

But I think right now, Ferrari are in a better position where they can go ahead and win within the next season or two if they get it right. Now, of course, I don't think there's any chance he would. I don't think he's going to happen. But if he was going to move there, he's not going to move there in favor of Charles Leclair, who has the potential to win them championships for over a decade. He'd have to move there in favor of Sebastian Vettel.

And that could get messy. So I don't think it's going to happen. Would he be the key to them winning quite possibly? Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. And to the point, I think that Fosie would absolutely adore him. Sebastian Bettle, it worked fine for him. I think it worked fine for Hamilton too. I want interject actually on that Vettel

Alonso, Hamilton Point. A longso, incredible driver, you're right. He did absolutely wonders in that friday, which wasn't the best it could have been back then. But we've seen a longsat's reputation within teams, he's just not the right man for building a team, you know, he causes too much friction, too much strong. Maybe an older founder

Alonso now might be the right man for the job. But as a driver, I just don't think it would work. I don't think he had the longevity in relationship terms to build a team around him. Vettel, again, he's a little bit selfish. I'm a big fan of Vettel, but he's selfish in his mannerisms. He wants to be the number one top guy. I think Hamilton is a team mentality built man.

He thrives in a strong team environment. And that's why he did so up McClaar. He came in because they adored him. He adored them. He grew so well that Mercedes brand and the same at Mercedes. You know, he came in and he's made it his team. They love him. He loves them.

So I think that if you were to go to Ferrari, they would fall in love with him. He would fall in love with them. He loves Italy. He loves the fashion. He loves everything. about it. I generally think that he could be a real key to unlocking Ferraris, that file 10% that they're currently lacking. Yeah, quite possibly. And if you would like to see Hamilton go to Ferrari, let us know in the comments. It'd be interesting to see what the opinion is on this,

because some maybe don't care at all. To be honest, I might be in that party as well. But yeah, be very interesting to get your thoughts on that. Sam, do you want to get us out of here? Yeah, thank you very much for listening, folks. As always, it means a lot that you stick around and walk through the videos. And if you have enjoyed it, then please hit the like button. You really got to help us out. If you want to see some more content, of course, click the subscribe button and stick around for more content. We are always here every race weekend and the days in between. But in the meantime, I've been Samuel Sage. I've been Ben Hocking. I've been Harry Ead. And remember, keep breaking late.

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