The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Should F1 STOP having practice sessions?

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

The boys are still recovering from the Australian GP - but they still hit record anyway! This week Ben, Sam and Harry discuss the possibility of having less practice sessions in a race weekend, give t...heir thoughts on a potential new team; 'Formula Equal', and play F1: Back and Forth... VOTE for us in the Sports Podcast Awards: https://www.sportspodcastgroup.com/sports_category/best-motorsports-podcast/ SUPPORT our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/latebraking JOIN our Discord: https://discord.gg/dQJdu2SbAm JOIN our F1 Fantasy League: https://fantasy.formula1.com/en/leagues/join/C3CCEW8P704 TWEET us @LBraking BUY our merch: https://late-braking-f1-podcast.creator-spring.com/ EMAIL us at podcast@latebraking.co.uk SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. And a very warm welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Eid, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. We're not in a race weekend, I'm afraid. We've got another seven years until the next race in Baku, but we've still got episodes coming your way.
Starting point is 00:00:45 a bit of a secondary post-Australian run through today, a few topics on that. Is that covered from the weekend yet? What's that a question for Sam? I mean, I said the word Sam, so, you know. I didn't hear it. That's the one word it lagged out on. It just said, have you recovered from the weekend?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, I mean, no, no, still quite tired. The toilet hasn't recovered. I'm joking. Oh, we're not doing this again. No, no, no, I'm joking. No. Honestly, honestly, what are we doing here, racing or ping pong? It was a lot, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:23 The weekend. Don't like waking up that early for a start. And then it turns out that no one could drive a race car anymore. I was really tired by the afternoon. Oh, yeah, I was realised that I was doing something on my computer in the afternoon. And I was, I had my hand, I, folks, you can't see this, but I had my chin on my hand. And then about 10 minutes later, I realized I was there with my own. eyes closed and I just hadn't moved for about 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I fall on asleep watching some crap on the TV on the YouTube. Oh no. Oh no. That's going to really, really please all of the listeners that had to get up for the rest of the year. Look, folks, I fully understand your pain, okay? I get it. But we are privileged Europeans. He just doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I don't care. I mean, you can move to the UK. Come join us. I don't, I wouldn't do that. Don't do that. Well, you can't. that's a bit of a problem at the moment I mean this intro is not gone well as it
Starting point is 00:02:20 shall we talk about some Formula One sure we're not going down that path we should talk about some Formula One coming up on today's show we're going to be if I'm back for which is always a sign that it's going to be a great episode
Starting point is 00:02:32 I'm all right Max Verstappen is he right to say that Lewis Hamilton didn't follow the rules in his overtake on lap one of the Australian Grand Prix the possibility of an equal gender Formula One team
Starting point is 00:02:44 in next coming in next couple of years. We're going to be discussing Gasly not getting a penalty and therefore for his contact with Esteban Ocon at the weekend. But we're going to start with Big Stefano Domenicali or Steve Sunday, as Harry likes to call him. He had some comments before the Australian Grand Prix about not liking practice, basically. He actually clarified these comments later on in the weekend, saying, I was focusing on the fact that I was enjoying these sprint races. I didn't say anything new. Of course, there needs to be the time for practice. The people are coming to see performance. More that you give the teams and drivers the chance to see who they are, the better
Starting point is 00:03:23 it is for the show. On the other hand, we need to give rookies time for them to prize there needs to be a balance. We have to consider that we are just out of an incredible period for the sport, and it's really very strong. It's not because we don't respect the traditions. We respect the old way of thinking of our weekend, but it would be wrong not to think about it. So, Sam, based on what he's saying here about practice sessions. Of course, at the moment, the standard weekend has three sessions in place. Do you think he's right to raise the question about whether we need that much? And do you think that actually a reduced practice time is the way to go? I think, firstly, this opinion of Stefano's is going to really split a lot of the audience in Formula One. I think a lot of the older heads
Starting point is 00:04:05 will go, I like watching practice, I find it relaxing, I can see the cars go around when you attend a Grand Prix and you see practice happen. You do get more of like a softer look. at the cars, right? They take more time. They run different things. It's still 20 miles an hour. Yeah. Just parade round.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Just hello. Why you think it everyone as you go? You might pick up the bird. You see you run across the track and go, you're my pet now. Oh, okay. Not sorry, I'm not derogatory. Picking up birds. Just because I'm from Essex.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I'll speak like that. I'll see you, my. Anyway. Picking up, bird. Anyway, no, tweet, tweet. Anyway, my point is that practice does bring positives to the scenario, right? You do get to see more cars on track time, which is what people pay for when they come to the circuit. And I respect that. I'm going to go down the other path, though. I don't like
Starting point is 00:04:54 three practice sessions a week. And I think I've been very vocal about this for the whole time we've done the podcast, quite frankly, for a normal viewer and the majority of viewers don't go to the tracks every weekend, they're not watching the Grand Prix live at a race track. They're watching at home on their telly. It doesn't provide massively entertaining footage to watch. I'm not saying you should eradicate practice entirely, but there are negatives to having so many practice sessions. Three allow for so much prep work, especially at historical tracks where we have been there. For example, Silverstone, right?
Starting point is 00:05:22 That was there in 1950. The amount of data, whether it be programming base, whether it be aerodynamics base, have a chassis works, the flex and flow. Most of the teams are based around the era of the UK. It allows you to almost have a bulletproof weekend in terms of how the car functions, how the team runs, what the driver needs to do. out on track. And that removes variables for a fun and interest in race weekend. Because less tyre running could mean that actually it could be a four stop and no one ever knows
Starting point is 00:05:53 it's going to be a four stop until the race starts or you might need to run less swing. And actually you're a nightmare through the corners, but you're a rocket ship down the streets. It could produce a lot of fun racing scenarios. So for me, I'm a big advocate of less practices. I would go for one hour and a half long practice session. So what would I do for the rest of the time that it's going to be freed up by the reduction of free practices. So I either go one of two ways. I'm not going to go down the sprint race scenario, which would, I think Stefano came up with the idea that it would be a Friday qualifying and then the sprint race will have
Starting point is 00:06:29 qualifying on the Saturday and the sprint race would happen on the Saturday and then the original qualifying would give you the race result for the start of the race on Sunday. Very confusing. Awful for a new viewer, I think. What I would do is I would allow those rookies and in junior categories to have more regular track time. So I would give F2 a larger period of the track to practice to run more laps. I would also allow for another junior formula to be regularly more appearing going around the track. And that means if you're a spectator coming to watch the circuit actually live from the venue,
Starting point is 00:07:02 you're seeing more actual live racing. You're getting to know younger drivers. It's growing their profile. And you're still getting a full qualifying, full race session with a practice session. I just think that will help grow the overall area of the brand that needs it. The attention needs to go on those younger drivers so they could build their portfolios, their careers. And I think that's more exciting. I would rather see F3 and F2 regularly go racing more often,
Starting point is 00:07:25 then watch another two hours of practice because it just gets a bit dull. I know I'm maybe not even the majority with this concept. But for me, practice drowns on a little bit. I'm quite happy a lot of times because watch a quick highlights package and look at the results to double check that things are okay and regularly that does the job. So for me, I'm actually with him. Being off practice, put something else in, but not sprint races at every single Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:07:47 especially in the order you did, you mad man, Stefano. I'd be interested to know based on Melbourne and how that went because there were strong crowds for the Australian Grand Prix throughout the weekend, including Friday. But we know that it was the first time that Formula 3 and Formula 2 made an appearance out of the circuit. It would be very interesting. to actually, I don't have the numbers on this
Starting point is 00:08:12 and I don't know if anyone can actually get them. It'd be interesting to know whether the wrong numbers for that Grand Prix on the Friday were due to the involvement of the junior formulae or whether it was just more F1 time. I don't know. It was interesting to see at least
Starting point is 00:08:27 that Friday seemed to be good in terms of numbers for the Australian GP. I also very much like the point that you made about having data there from 1950. I can just imagine Ferrari scrutinizing notes from Ascari's 155 lap in 1952. That just feels very Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Incredibly relevant. Belting lap. Yeah. And you need it because that Ferrari's going nowhere at the moment. Give it a go, Ferrari. Might actually work. Harry, what did you think about Mr. Steve Sunday's comments? I think I'm broadly in agreement with Sam here,
Starting point is 00:09:05 which is, I might be a bit sick. But, yeah, I, I consume myself. for an old, I'm not, but an old head. I don't mind, I like watching a bit of practice. But it's, it's one way you just sit down. You might have a cup of coffee, tea, just chill, might go on your phone for a bit. You're not paying that much attention to it. It's just nice to have a bit of F1 on.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So, I'm just trying to, because Ben just disappear from our screen, but everything's fine, I'm sure. Oh, I'm still there. Oh, good, that's good, good news. Yeah, but so even though I like it, I'm in agreement with Sam, I think let's just have one. Let's just have one on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Saturday morning, then go qualifying, then have your race. I think it will make the whole weekend more exciting because you've got one hour to set your car up. And it's the only part currently of the sprint race format that I kind of enjoy is that they only have one practice session before they go qualifying on a Friday when we have a sprint race weekend. The rest of it's garbage.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But that bit I like because it's just a bit more, a few more unknowns. So I did like that. And I also would dedicate Friday to more young, young driver stuff, whether that's in F1 cars or more F2 and F3 action. Because like you say, Ben, a lot of people turn up to Australia. So many, they couldn't even keep them on the track at the end of the race. And the race was a banger at junior formula race.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah. I mean, it was, I mean, they often are. But it was always going to be in Australia, wasn't it? It always had the hallmark of being a banger for ever. F2. So I'd do that. If we had to go down and had to go down, I'm saying I want to, had to go down a sprint race route with this where we have them all the time because there's no or less practices. I'd probably go the same way that they do with F2, which I think is kind of what Steve Sunday saying here. You have a qualifying, you then have a sprint race. That's not in the
Starting point is 00:11:11 order of qualifying. It's just separate. It doesn't decide the grip for Sunday. The qualifying you've already had decides to grip for Sunday. So I'd probably do that, but I don't don't do that, please. Plus.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So yeah. I'm surprised the amount of people, how polarising this has been. Stafford was really vocal about it, wasn't he? He was really like, I don't want loads of sprint races. It's not how I see Formula One going. It's not in the DNA of Formula One. And I can understand that.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But sports change, mate. Things change. You want more practice? I mean, they always want more practice. Do they really enjoy practice? That's a good excuse for a nice segue plug to the lead topic of our Patreon episode that we'll be out in a couple of days
Starting point is 00:11:55 if you're listening to this straight away because we talk about whether Max Verstappen would ever walk away from the sport based on some of the comments he's made about spring races and it not being to his liking. Nice, Ben. Yeah, thanks, mate. I was quite proud of myself for that one.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I'll give myself a pound on the sport. back. Right. Good news, everyone. I've got the solution. I've got it. Buckling, folks. Needs to stop worrying. We've all got it here. So, first of all, actually, I do want to address a couple of the points that Stefano Domenicali made in his statement here, because there are a couple of bits that I don't necessarily agree with or at least want to question. Firstly, where he says that I'm just enjoying these sprint races, I didn't say anything new. The last sprint race was like six months ago. It's a weird time to bring up that. It hasn't been a sprint race
Starting point is 00:12:46 since November. It's like me saying, I'm really enjoying the FIFA World Cup at the moment. It's going great, isn't it? It's been over for months. Like, you know, back when we're actually going to get one, that felt a bit weird. He also, he's very clever with this. He's
Starting point is 00:13:02 managed to say that there is a need for practice, but also completely diminish the reason why? Because the only reason he's given that practice should exist. exist is, and I'll quote it again, on the other hand, we need to give rookies time for them to practice. He's just basically saying to 18 of the 20 drivers on the grid, you don't really need practice. You're not a rookie.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Or are you? Do you really need that practice? I love that. It feels a bit patronising. Call them out. Oh, you need practice. Oh, you need more, do you? You think you're going to struggle.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Get a grid. You're a race car driver. So he's managed, he just manages to say that there is a need for practice. practice, but also not a need for like 90% of you, which I found quite funny. There's something very interesting about his comments that is completely unintentional. And I know it's unintentional because he's mentioned sprint bases here, but he's 90% of a way to a solution. So separately to the also made comments about the Formula One calendar in general saying that 32 races could happen based on the interest that is in F1 at the moment. He's not saying that that is going to
Starting point is 00:14:13 happen, but he's saying based on the interest, we could have 32 tracks wanting a Formula One Grand Prix. And actually, those comments are much more related than they seem because they've been said completely separately. Domenicali wants two things. He wants less practice and he probably wants more races as well. Well, think about it. At the moment, the way that the Formula One race can works. You've got media day on Thursday. You've got practice Friday and you've got qualifying Saturday, race Sunday. So you're four days on track for every Grand Prix. So at the moment, it's a 24 race maximum limit for how many Grand Prix can happen in a season. That's essentially 96 days being at the track. Quick maths. Quick maths indeed. But to your point, and you have the way there,
Starting point is 00:15:01 Sam, because you've brought up the point of if we were to have free practice, the only free practice session on Saturday morning and then go straight into qualifying and then the race, which I 100% agree with and I think that's the way it should go. But actually, if you think about it just to almost go a step further from what you're saying here, you could then have media day on the Friday. So suddenly every race weekend is only taking up three days worth of track time rather than four. If you think about it then, and I'm not saying we should go to 32 races here, but if you were to do 32 races at that schedule, that is the same number of days at track. than doing 24 on the current schedule.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It's not, they both equal 96 races. Three times 32, four times 24. I mean, thanks for breaking it down, for us idiots over here. I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:49 I was, might break me struggling. I see you in the camera struggling to work it out. Do you know why I think he's brought up the, we can have 32 races? What? Have a shot,
Starting point is 00:15:59 but Harry, have a shot. And why do you think he's brought up the 32 races thing? I think I know exactly why it's probably up. Wine, wind us up. No. I mean, yeah, it's definitely wound you.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's confusing me. I mean, Ben has. It's because it's the end of the financial year and saying countries are desperate for a race. It raises the valuation of the sport and the interest. It's because I put more dollar bills on those shareholders come the end of the financial year. He ain't no mug.
Starting point is 00:16:24 See if Sunday goes what he's talking about. It does seem conceivable. But just to go back to the point here on sprint races because I love sprint races if you haven't listened to this podcast for a while. The point. The hot topic. back to the point here,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Stefan de Manichali wants both things. And we've basically, the three of us collectively, just giving him a roadmap to be able to do that. We've basically said, if you want more races and you want Lekdis, here's how you do it. You have one free practice session.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You bring down the number of days per weekend. Suddenly you might be able to get some more race weekends out of it. We've essentially given him the solution. The problem is they'll never go for it. And do you know why? They're so fixated on these sprint races. And you cannot make that schedule work if you have sprint races in a weekend. You can't fit it into two days. So if they don't ever
Starting point is 00:17:14 give up this necessity, they think, that race need to happen, they could have this, but they'll never do it because they're so, they love sprint races too much. So they're going to be stuck at the number of Grand Prix they have at the moment. Maybe they'll get rid of some practice sessions. I don't know. But this is probably preventing them from actually getting somewhere with the two things that Domena Kali is Stady would like. And the worst part is, Domenicali's a friend in the podcast. He listens regularly.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He'll hear this idea. Yeah, he will. He's a late breaker through and through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on the Patreon. Yeah, all the famous. Yeah. I don't remember him on the page.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He goes by the name of Terry. Terry Domenicali. Terry Dorms. Terry's chocolate. Terry's, yeah, that's him. I remember him now. you go. Anyway, that's enough of that. Good Lord, Terra.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Forget reverse. Lord, Terri. We will put this one in reverse. We'll take a short break and on the other side of it we will be discussing Pierre Gasli and Esteban Okon. Sosa Gis out! Good.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Okay, before we discuss Pierre Gasley not getting a penalty for his con-estaband-Ock-on at the weekend. One last reminder for you all because the deadline is fast approach. 7 of April, Friday. day 7th of April is the last day you can vote for us in the Sports Podcast Awards. So many of you already voted for us, which is massively humbling.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Thank you very much indeed to you. If anyone who hasn't voted would be so kind as to give us a vote, mean everything to us. And as Sam has already mentioned in a couple of outros, there is the incentive that we will pretend to beat each other episode, which could be the most disastrously funny thing we've ever done. I just can't wait for you to help. I really appreciate any more votes. I mean, me, I kind of just want to do it anyway. Maybe we will, but I'm not revealing that properly until we lose anyone.
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Starting point is 00:19:57 My sake, right, let's talk about big guys. There was a point in that somewhere. Vote for us. That would be massively appreciated. Thank you very much. Link is in the description as always. But we'll crack on with Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ockon because we know they had an incident at the weekend. At the time of our review, we didn't know what the result of the investigation was going to be, whether Pierre Gasley would be receiving a penalty, F4 penalty points. Penalty points not too good for Pierre Gasly right now because it would lead to a race ban. It happens. Racing incident is what the stewards decided. So no penalty for Gazley, no penalty points for him either, and he can race at Baku. Sam reflecting on it, I know he does this quite more on Sunday, but do you still, are you still in the same position? Do you still think that this should have been a penalty? That is the luckiest man in Christendom.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I swear to the Lord himself. I'm not a religious man, but good golly gosh. How has he gotten away with that one? Yes, I'm still fully of the mindset that Pierre Gassley should have picked up a penalty. He should receive penalty points and he would, in theory, then be banned for the Baku Grand Prix.
Starting point is 00:21:09 The only reason that they've gotten away with this, I feel, is because he did it to his own teammate and Alpina basically gone, oh, no, it's all right. Don't worry about it. We don't mind. We like it when they hit each other. You know, that's literally how I feel it's gone.
Starting point is 00:21:23 You think if this was a haste or an Alfa mayor or any other team, you think this is a penalty? The past literally protested the entire race decision. So yes, I have absolutely no doubt that Alpine, I've gotten away with it because it's an inter-team issue. And they've basically gone behind closed doors. They've gone, Pierre, you need to apologise to Esteban. Otherwise, he will implode. And Esteban's gone, come on, give it to me.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And Pierre's gone, I'm very sorry, Esteban. Please don't implode. And they're best friends again. But basically, he's gotten away with this. A literal murder of a Formula One car he's got away with. I don't know how he's done it. He's a wizard. He's a wizard of the legal system.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Puff! And he's got no points. Amazing. You're a wizard sausage. You're a wizard, Pierre. He's got the luck of the Irish. He's got a four-leaf clover tucked up at sighing his racing.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. Oh, yes. Well-known Irish driver. Pete O'Gasley. Pito Gazzle. Pito Gazzle. Oh, gosh. That's that four-leaf clover.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Okay, so that was yeah, that was pretty conclusive. Sam still thinks that that should have been applied and also saying that if it was another team involved with Pierre Gasley then they would have been down the route of a penalty thinking that was more influenced it. Harry, would you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:22:44 I, yes, I would agree and I'm on the same, but I saw the interview with Esteban Ocon afterwards. Bearing in mind, this man, what's tweeted that Perez tried to kill him? The angriest man in Formula One. And then he last year tried to kill Alonzo about three times. He was just like, oh, yeah, it happens.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I'm like, there's no way that that is just your reaction. Someone has taken, as he say, into a room and they've had to apologize and whatever. So I... Is that confident plan? He knows it doesn't matter. Shut up, Ben. I'm... I get...
Starting point is 00:23:19 Well, I don't get why, because it's definitely a penalty. There are some... not some mitigating circumstances, I don't know. It was messy, wasn't it? By the time they were at Turn 2 and there was cars everywhere. But there are, I get why, sort of. The one I don't understand. I'm sorry to go off on a tangent.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Logan Corporal slash Private. How has he gotten away with that? There's nothing. He's absolutely punting. They didn't even investigate. The entirety of the Formula One community have gone, can't do that. Can't part there.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah. I mean, most of Formula One Twitter almost lost their mind when they thought Max Verstappen had gone over his parking spot on the second restart. No one's really, no one's really making a deal about Logan. Just us. But he completely punted to freeze. I don't understand how this has happened and nothing has happened. How? Murder mystery.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It's just like sneaking off in the background, isn't he? Like into the Australian city Melbourne, just like. It was Logan I'm going to leave now for my I just shook at that So yeah The Ghazdi one I can see how they
Starting point is 00:24:33 How Alpine and Ockon Probably went to the Steers room And I know It was a bit of banter But It was a bonding exercise Time to get out of your safe Building
Starting point is 00:24:42 The Logan one I don't know how Alvatarian Nick DeVries I've let that one go It's because I think what the FIA is with the Alpine incident Both Alpings crashed out of the race
Starting point is 00:24:55 So they went, that's punishment enough for Ghazley He's retired from the Grand Prix And they do this all the time They base their penalty decisions on Is the car running, basically? Whereas the Logan Sergeant one, Corporal, Private. Both Alp.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Right? I think basically they went, ah, you're going to get your points anyway. So what's the matter? Okay. Who should be the stewards? I hate it. Correct.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I hear it. Nick. The really is so sick of the weekend that he couldn't even be bothered to try and appeal it. It's just like, I just want what we've done with. It's just been such a slog. I just want to go to Baku now. So what, that Logan Sargent tried to kill me. I just want to go home.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Well, Yuki Sanogo's rolling in points. Three. It's more than you've never added in a third point ever season, isn't it? He's actually driving well. Maybe this is a topic for another time, but Yuki Sononi. It's just like the scrappiest driver. I love him. He's staying involved in everything.
Starting point is 00:26:00 It's brilliant. He's the pocket rocket. Yeah, I have to say I'm with Sam on this one. I completely agree with him, which is a worrying statement. But what I'm going to stand by on this occasion? Firstly, the biggest problem is not the decision itself. It's the fact that it took five million hours after the race ended. What are you waiting for?
Starting point is 00:26:21 I appreciate they're both out of the race. race, so there isn't the urgency that there is for other decisions. But if you can make the Carlos signs and Alonzo decision within a couple of minutes, you do five hours to make this decision between Knock On and Gasly. What are they doing? We don't want to be sat around like until five hours after the race is done, wondering what's going to happen. Just make the decision quicker. So that was my first problem with it. I actually, what still definitely think it should have been a penalty for GASI. I think what's probably annoyed me is the way that the FIA has approached this because yet again, there's just no consistency in the way that they look at these incidents.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Frederick Ian Anderson back at it again. In the statement, they say that, you know, the steward from the drivers and a team representative. Why? Why did you need to hear from the drivers and a team representative? You didn't do that for the Alonzaan's incident. You didn't do it for any other things that you need to decide when it's on track. So what will be any different where they're looking at it after the Grand Prix that suddenly team representatives are involved and drivers are able to make their case. There's no need for it. You look at footage.
Starting point is 00:27:35 The FIA need to understand it's their sport. It's Formula One is their sport and the teams are there working to their rules. Yeah, the teams aren't always going to be happy with whatever you say, whatever law you lay down, right? you're never going to make all the teams happy, but it's your sport, and they're racing under you have to lead as a result of that,
Starting point is 00:27:55 rather than pandering to them and letting them say their case. You wouldn't have done it for the Alonzo and Science. You didn't do the Alonzo and Signs incident. You don't need to do it for something, even if it's investigated after the Grand Prix. And the statement goes on. I mean, from the drivers we've decided to award,
Starting point is 00:28:15 it doesn't make any sense. It's like you don't need to confer. You don't go to, you're not in a football match where, you know, let's speak to this player. Should he get a yellow card for that? I don't know. Let's speak to the other guy. I think you should have been worth that. Let's have a chat about this for about five hours before we decide whether the yellow card is needed.
Starting point is 00:28:36 No, the referee makes the decision on the spot and you deal with it. Whether you like it or not, that's the decision that's made in that moment. Why can't it be exactly the same way here? I don't think they referred to it as a first lap racing incident, which was quite funny. I don't give it a rest. I understand why they, I understand why they mentioned it, but also not quite true. And then they ended the statement by saying both cars accepted and recognized that it was a racing incident. It does not matter that they accept the matter that they recognized it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It's not down to you to negotiate and to speak to the table. teams and ask what they're okay with. It's your responsibility to independently look at the footage, say this is what we're doing as a result of it, and deal with it however you want to. Are you happy with it? Are you not happy with it? We don't care. That's the decision we're making. But it's just not the way the FIER operates. You know why the Alonkso on was different? I'm giving other quiz, Harry. Why was the Alonkso one different? Because Gigacchanalonto. Well, exactly. That's exactly correct. Because he's a genius and he called out over the radio immediately, it was aired to everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Unlike the gazing, Ocar, one, no complaints were heard by the public, so they could keep everything hush-h-hush and deal with it behind closed doors. But also ain't going to let anyone get away with that. He's like, no, you've hit me, game over, give him a penalty, give me my place back. And it worked.
Starting point is 00:30:01 You call them out. That's how you deal with the FIA. I like Ben's analogy about the two parties agreeing. It's like the jewelry shop and the thief both agreed that this was... Can I take that ring? This was a fair robbery. Can I call the police? You give me five hours to get away and then, yeah?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Okay. Yeah. hilarious. Great analogy, guys. You sure that's my job. Five. Five. Oh, you've hit him in the face there.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Oh, sorry. Oh. Damn. So bad. For the record, Sam, I actually agree with you on if it was another team. I think he is penalized for it. I thought he was a slam dunk penalty. You cannot go back on.
Starting point is 00:30:47 onto the track after you've left it and just veer over to the right-hand side like no other car is going to be going faster than you. Of course it was a penalty. So I agree with you on that. I also think the fact of him getting a race ban was also a feature here. I think
Starting point is 00:31:03 that, I don't think the FIA want to deal with that and I think they've counted away too. We just cannot be bothered. I don't want that my life. No. Let's go home. We're in Australia. Let's go home. I think they looked at that and thought, you know He hasn't done anything particularly dangerous in the last 12 months.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It's just been an accumulation of little things. Can we be bothered to deal with the backlash of banning him? Nah. All right. Let's go. He can get away with it then. Can't more assign that. It's like a footballer doing a slide tackle badly in England and, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:34 getting a red card for it. But then he's playing a tournament in the World Cup that's hosting Japan. Doing the exact same tackle. And they're going, oh, that is going to take a lot of paperwork. And we're across the world. So should we bother with it? Now, just let him get away with it this time. That's like that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Stupid FIA. Honestly. Give it to us. See what happens. Actually, don't do it. No, do it. It'll be hilarious. It would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Utterly hilarious. So if you can get that installed, please go ahead. I don't know anyone who has that kind of, but please go ahead. It will. Think of the content. We're going to take a short break.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And we'll be back on the other side, discussing the potential for a new F1 entry in a couple of years' time. See you come here again. Thanks, Sam. Okay, so it's all of F1 news. Former BAR F1 team principal Craig Pollock has confirmed he plans to return to the sport with a new team in 2026. So he is called Formula Equal is the proposal here.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And it would be an even split team between genders at all levels. So it would be a 50-50 split between male. and female, as they've said. And apparently the backing for Pollock's project coming from Saudi Arabia. We know that's just rumours at this point. He previously managed Jack Vilnove, so I'm sure he's Harry's greatest fan already.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Harry, what do you make of this potential proposal? Is there any chance it goes through and should it? I mean, Craig Pollock, more like Craig. Yeah, I was going to say it if you were. Like, you've got to plate ready. Craig Pile of B. Oh, too day. No, hang on.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Craig, that work? No. Yeah, look. The, I like the theory. I hate the name. Formula equal. Obviously, what could be sick? That's the worst name of all time.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Looks to sound at Formula E, which already exists. It's worse the racing point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot that was the team name. Good. Yeah, so yeah, I hate the name.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I like the idea. It's, you know, we all know that F1 is still very much a male-dominated sport. Things are changing, but it's still not there yet. So I like the concept. My worry is that, and this is from a sporting side, I don't want to say the word gimmick, because, you know, equal, you know, gender equality is not a gimmick, obviously. But get that in there.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Thank you. Before I get cancelled. But my worry is that that's the basis of their entry. And does that make them a serious team? Or are they just doing this for the publicity of it? So I'm not going to completely poo-poo the idea. but it's a tricky one to base your Formula One team or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But that being said, I like the theory behind it. Would it ever happen? Well, Andretti can't get into F1 currently. So will this happen? Probably not, given the current circumstances. Michael Andretti would be the maddest person on this planet. And then maybe they do it just to tease him off. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Why do they hate him? They just really don't like him. Yeah, they all watch the 1993 season. I've got some beef with him. I don't know. For the most aged beef. Hello. Yeah, so look, it's a tricky one.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I find it a tricky. Challenging scenario. Yes, yes, a challenging scenario. Because I'm all for the gender equality, but I'm just not sure. This is the right way to do it. Thank you. You sound so old.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm all for the gender equality. Okay, boomer. Oh, God. I'm going to be cancelled. Hannah and Sammy's good at his words. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I mean, I won't even wait for Ben to jump in. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That was good passing off. Ben, shut up. Basically, I kind of hate it. So I'm going to be cancelled now. Oh, no. It's just because, in theory, is a brilliant idea. In theory, it is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yes, I love the progression. I love the fact that it also, when will Formula One get their language correct and say that it's men and women and not male and female, thank you, because you can identify as a woman. And that is very important, and that's what we stand for really breaking. And I think that whether it be drivers, mechanics, engineers, strategists,
Starting point is 00:36:55 all the way down to the people who are, you know, working at the factory, doing all the bits of pieces that we don't ever get spoken about. Very important that you have that. representation. But just coming in with a gimmicky name like Formula Equal tells the world that that's all you're here for. If you were called Pollock Racing, which just sounds like you're racing, quite frankly. I'm like, I love Pollock Racing. Straight out of Grimsby. Oh, anyway, that's what the game should be. And if you were all out, if you were called Pollock Racing,
Starting point is 00:37:26 right? And part of your company ethos was building equality. And you created a, a ground route system that allowed for, you know, apprenticeships and the support from schools through universities to, you know, independent schools that allowed you to learn these specific skills. And you cherry-picked talent from a young age should go through racing categories and engineering schools and you brought that into the sport. Then good Lord, I think, yes, what a fantastic initiative and a great way to spend your cash and your time and your investment in Formula One. Brilliant stuff. I love that. The difference is that's not what they're doing. They're not setting up the grassroots stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And also, I know it's only rumoured, but their backing is currently, in theory, from Saudi Arabia. Now, very recently, women in Saudi Arabia weren't allowed to drive. So the fact that that was only just brought into the law makes me very nervous that this feels like a pure sports washing publicity stunt. And it's not good. It feels like you can wipe away one layer of, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:27 the steam after a shower, and then there staring you in the face where you're cold and naked, is the truth, the cold hard truth that this is a publicity stunt. And quite frankly, Pollitt Racing should be ashamed of itself. The likes of ExtremeE, which no-one watches, has a dedicated men and woman driver, right?
Starting point is 00:38:46 You have to have a split gender team. That is the rules of the sport. Every single team has one man and one woman that operates the car. And I think that's brilliant. That really highlights the skills of both drivers and not once, Engon, ever commented that the woman
Starting point is 00:38:59 has specifically let the team down or the woman can't drive as well as the man. They're doing a brilliant job, and their skill is fantastic. It shows it could be achieved. And they do not make it a gimmick. They don't drone on about it. It's not a publicity stunt. It can be done in Formula One,
Starting point is 00:39:12 and I would admire it seems to come in and go. Nope. Part of our ethos is we want to have a woman driver. We want to promote that. Brilliant. This is not what Formula equality are doing. Good Lord, I want to burn it. Formula equality is better than what it actually is Formula equal.
Starting point is 00:39:28 That's even worse. I thought I was bad. hashtag Pollock Racing. Pollock racing. That sounds like I made it on motorsport manager. Well, I was very worried. I was going to be the first person to introduce the term sports washing into this conversation. So I'm very glad that Sam's got there before I have.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Because I can just piggyback off Sam now because I completely agree with him. And I would have introduced that term if not, because that it feels what this is. Certainly, if we've got Andretti, that has already been mentioned in this conversation where Andretti is an established name in motorsport, very established name in motorsport. There's a reliability about it. They've got HQ plans that are set in stone.
Starting point is 00:40:15 We've got, it's been a long time in the making. We've mentioned this on a previous episode that actually it's not a brand new thing that Andretti want to be in F1. It's been going on for years. And they're bringing, or they're bringing Cadillac and Motor motors along with them. There's literally every tick box you can have
Starting point is 00:40:30 pretty much going for Andretti and the team still don't want it to happen. So if that can't happen, what makes me think this could happen? There's no plan here. There's nothing. What is it? There's nothing, this hasn't been worked over. This isn't a plan that's been in the making for a long time. There isn't a certainty of these are our backers and it's a long-term investment.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's a cobbled together. We'd like this to happen. we might have some backing in Saudi Arabia. We don't know who it is yet. We can't confirm it. You really think in two years that's going to be a Formula One team? Come on.
Starting point is 00:41:10 It's not going to work. And Formula equal is the worst name of it in my life. I mean, gee, I know. Oh, yes. Yes. I have to admit that overall Formula One is in desperate need, desperate need of greater diversity. 100% agree with that.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Not just in terms of gender or in terms of race and plenty of other characteristics are underrepresented in Formula One at the moment. So I am 100% for that. The 50-50 concept is not one that I personally support. I am all for the advocacy of more representation and great diversity. I just don't think hitting quota numbers is the way to get there. If we get to a position where a team wants to employ 70% to 30% men versus women,
Starting point is 00:42:11 great. If it ends up being the other way around, but the opportunities are there, great as well. I just don't think that the objective of getting exactly 50-50 is actually right. I think it should be merit-based and the efforts should be going. going towards making sure women have equal opportunity and are encouraged at, you know, grassroots levels. And that's where I feel the effort should actually be to give that platform in the first place. And then it becomes a meritocracy or whatever you'd call it, right?
Starting point is 00:42:46 I just don't think the idea that we need to hit 50% and we don't care how we get there is actually sustainable in the long term because at that point you're going to be making decisions that aren't actually beneficial to the people that they're going to come in and not be ready for the position because there hasn't been the effort put in prior to that that's actually going to get in the position that they need to be to actually perform these roles brilliantly well. There are some brilliant women in Formula One already doing a great job. And I'm really 100% in favour of that encouragement and then being role models and promoting more
Starting point is 00:43:25 diversity, hitting numbers and hitting quotas is the way to get there. So I agree with the principle, but I don't agree with the execution, if that makes sense. I think Formula Equal, or Mr Pollock, would actually be much better served in his publicity stunt if they were to not set up a Formula One team, but set up a form of academy for young women called Formula Equal, where the point is to invest in for, and young women and people of a minority to go and study and train and be promoted and be funded properly to be part of the sport. And you could carry them all the way through their journey until they're employed by
Starting point is 00:44:08 either a Formula One team or something of equal caliber, Weck, race, a rally racing or some form of, you know, indie car or whatever it might be. You could be the guiding force, the shuttle that carries them from, I don't know, seven or eight years old all the way through to full employ. in motorsport. I feel like you were gaining so much more credit, authenticity and appreciation
Starting point is 00:44:29 by doing something like that and just, oh, why do a Formula One team? You could probably spend way less money doing it for way better good. You would have to fund a car every year.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And not to just get a Jack Villanjab in here right now, but what did Craig Pollock do when he was an F1 last time? Well, title, mate. Well, he wasn't. He was...
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh, yeah, that's true. Not a lot. Well, he was said of BAR for three, years and they didn't do a great deal in either of those three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pollock's bar. Served a lot of fish bars. Oh, hang on.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Way! Good. All right, that's enough of Pollock racing. Very interested to hear your thoughts on this proposal, though. Let us know, as usual, the usual channels. Yeah. Apologies of anything I said there. come across, but I don't know if I made myself clear as well as I could have done, but I,
Starting point is 00:45:31 you're fine bit, don't worry about it. It's a, it's a tough issue, but please let us know your thoughts, as always. Let's move on to Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton. Before we actually get into the actual question, did you see the video of the onboard of Lewis Hamilton getting overtaken by Max Verstappen? Oh no. It was like she was in slow motion. It is. It's utterly mad how he blasted by. that was not the question. I just thought I needed to raise that. Max Verstappen was not particularly happy with Lewis Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Ah, nostalgia. Oh, we're back. Lewis Hamilton, Alex Verstappen on lap one of the Grand Prix, going to turn three. And Max Verstappen wasn't best pleased with the way in which Lewis Hamilton achieved it. So Max Verstappen accused Lewis Hamilton of not following the rules, not giving him enough space on the outside of the corner,
Starting point is 00:46:24 which allowed Lewis Hamilton to make the pass. I didn't even give it to get through this. Oh, no. Oh, no, no. What do you reckon, Sam? Oh, I mean, talk about being a hypocrite, you know? It's like he's written a book, Hypocrisy 101. I'm all for a bit of elbows out racing as long as you're running in the confines of the track.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And I must admit on that corner as well, but not to sound like we're Lewis Hamilton fanboys in this scenario. but even though he did squeeze a bit, there's plenty of runoff. There's a whole bit of asphalt and AstroTurf rather and Kerbich sure that you can run the car properly. And Vastappen's wheels, never even touched gravel nor grass. They were fully on track or on surface that you could drive on and the drivers regularly do when taking those corners properly anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But the absolute irony of Max Verstappen to be winging over the radio about forcing drivers off the track when literally every time they came together in the last couple of years, He would literally drive him. Do you remember the move in Brazil where Lewis Hamilton tries to go around the outside? What was in turn four? All fair.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I think they were further away. Then they were closer to Argentina than they were to the actual track surface for the time that Verstappen stopped running him wide. Honestly, I'm not going to drag on. As much as I respect Max Verstappen, his achievements, how good he is behind the wheel of a race car. Good Lord, that boy can race.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Don't mown about the staff that you've been doing. That's like me, punching Harry in the face for two years straight every day. And he punches me once. And I go, you can't do that. It's not fair. No, it's the same thing that I've been doing to you, mate. Honestly, why are you checking?
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Starting point is 00:48:11 You have to punch me. Benefits, bang. And the dirt is gone. Oh, Barry Scott. It's been a while since Barry Scott's got to mention on this podcast. I love Barry Scott. Harry, what did you make of Bustaffin's comments? Hi, I'm Barry Scott.
Starting point is 00:48:35 No. Yeah, I'm in agreement with Sam here. Look, I've, out of the three of us, I think it's fair to say I'm the one who's... You like it frisky. I like it frisky when it comes to me, wheel to wheel. Frisky for the bischie. Come on. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I am, so, you know, with... lots of those moves. I'm a bit more lenient, I guess, when it comes to, you know, running a driver wide. Max Ostappan takes that leniency to it, to my leniency to its very limit, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Sometimes they over it, I think probably Brazil. It's a bit over. It's quite far, wasn't he? It was well over. But, sorry, a bit far.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I think, I think Western Africa was incredible. At the time they finished driving away from the trash. Yeah. just, yeah, crept in the door. So, you know, I'm okay with those sorts of moves. But yes, he spent a lot of time doing those moves on Lewis Hampton. And they, I, they both do this.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I think Max is slightly less subtle at it. But we've seen Hamilton do it too. He did it in the Rosberg gears. And then Rosberg tried to do it and just didn't turn. Do you remember Austria? Rosberg just drove like a straight line. He was a very different thing. He was really not subtle at it.
Starting point is 00:49:55 So they both do it. They are harsh races. I think sometimes both of them, they go over the line. But A, this one wasn't over the line. Like it was, to be honest, Hamilton kind of mugged him off a bit. It caught napping into turn three. I think he didn't mug him off anyway. I don't think he was expecting Hamilton to go down the inside there.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Oh, yeah, Max, mate, come on. I don't know if he's just doing it to wind everyone up. You think him and Hamilton afterwards are like, we got him again, like alongside on Hamilton. I mean, I swear, off topic. Those two smiling. I love racing you, mates. And they just slag each other off to the side.
Starting point is 00:50:33 But when they're together, anyway. Yeah, some... They're having us all for a bag of chips. They still are. It's actually just a massive comedy show. The whole thing's just improv. It is. And when, like, nothing happens for a while,
Starting point is 00:50:47 then, like, Alonso say something in the press. It's just Hamilton, like, texting be like, I'd slag me off today. Yeah, get me rattled. Get me, riled. Get me, riled. This is completely off topic. Anyway, Max, shush your mouth, mate.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, I'm trying, Max. I'm really trying to find something here. Reaching. I haven't gotten anything. I've been thinking for about a day, but I haven't got anything on this one. Max, I'm afraid, mate.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I think you might. You know what? You might be wrong on this. Sorry. Okay, I will say, one small thing in Vostappan's defence here and it's not actually really about the move
Starting point is 00:51:34 itself. He is, when he's saying the new rules, he's referring to the rules that came in place at the beginning of 2022. So I don't even think it was new rules, but it was more just a reconformation as to what the etiquette of racing
Starting point is 00:51:50 is. And a lot of the dodgy moves that Vostappan made were in 2021. So there's a small defense for him there that anything prior to the beginning of 2022 is not within the rules that he's referring to right now. Having said that, you're wrong, Max, sorry, mate. It was close to the limit.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It was close to the limit, but it wasn't on the limit and it definitely wasn't over the limit. There was space for Vastappan around me. I think at any point during that overtaking move, Vastappen could not have stuck it in there. I think there was always one car's width worth of room in order for Vass Stappen to work with. So I'm not with him on this one.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I think completely fair of Lewis Hamilton to make the move. And if he had pushed him out further and Vipan had no room to wait and he was forced off the curb and that was the case, my opinion would be very different because I do believe that it should be penalized in the same way as if there was grass or gravel out. just because he might be able to hang on because there wasn't either of those traps there. I still think it should be penalised in the same way. But the fact is that we didn't get to that because Hamilton was in control and left space, albeit not a lot, but enough. So I didn't say, I don't have any problem with this move whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:53:15 To be honest, I didn't even think it would get another mention because it just seems so stand. Obviously, it didn't end up mattering. I saw this on the schedule. I thought Ben was talking about when Hamilton was behind the safety car and he fell back a little bit. And I thought that's what this was going to be about. It would have been even funny if he started talking about that one instead.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I'm very bad at this as well. That would be really funny. I would like to give him mention to Max Verstappen, though, because we're in his new documentary. Oh, yes. Anatomy of a champion. I mean, he had nothing to do with it, but we are. Thanks for winning the championship, Max,
Starting point is 00:53:49 because now we're on a documentary. That's wild, isn't it? Well, we're only on it a little bit, but still, we are ring it. You will recognise our voices, especially at the Austria clip, there's a bit of us doing some voiceover, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Saying is quite good at the F1, basically. Yeah, well, you can say that Austria is great for Red Bull, especially Max Verstappen. Anyway, so yeah, if you're watching it, it's on ViaPlay, or Viya, I'm not sure how they say. It's on the Netherlands branch. So you can use our Norg VPN to access it. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:54:17 HashtagabF1. Oh, my word. Use LBF1 for a discount. That still works. And get yourself a bit of a cheeky or VPN, watch it on VIA play, and maybe clip us, talking. See if you can spot us. Tag us in it.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Cheer there, Nord. That was for free, son. I was too happy about the documentary. Yeah. Free press. Wow. It is, by the way, it is so late breaking the first episode we've had
Starting point is 00:54:43 since that's dropped. We're here slacking off thanks for staff. That's so late breaking. Oh, oh dear. Sorry. Sorry. You know, Big J journalism. We're independent here.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You know what it is. Please send us gifts. Anything on that? Yeah, I think we're probably about done with Max Mustafa. Okay, we'll take a, we'll take our last short break. Back and forth is around the corner. Here we go. Cheers Mario.
Starting point is 00:55:17 It's a me. It's a me. Back and forth. It's in my jingle. Right, here we go. Formula One, back and forth. Soundboard. Sowboard.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Just get those chips ready. Salboard. Dumb-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. Do it a cappella. F-1. Back and forth, it goes back. Back and forth, it goes back. and then goes for this F1.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Back and forth. F1. Well done, Harry. Oh, my God. I preferred that. We're not doing that every time. That's a queuette that's happening once and once only. Also, I guarantee it's going to play a really random moment at a minute's time.
Starting point is 00:56:41 We offer through question number three, me Lord. I think it'll just play. Do you know what's going to be the funniest part of it? is I probably won't actually be able to hear it. And it's going to start. It's funny. It's funny. It's not.
Starting point is 00:56:54 It's on go! Back and forth. It goes backwards. Then goes forth. It's F once. Back and forth. It's playing again. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Oh, my God. That is honestly the best thing's ever happened on the podcast. No one's going to believe. That's real. That is genuinely real, folks. It's gone for a whole chippy. I'll tell you what that was. Thank you, Admiral.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Oh, that's so good. Only place. Is it just going to go on a loop? That's a crap. I'm exhausted. We haven't even started the game yet. F1 back and forth. Harry versus SAA, there will be a category,
Starting point is 00:57:51 there will be a number of correct answers in that category. They will go back and forth until one of them can't think of an answer or gives an incorrect one. A 20 correct answers today. And here is the category. I want you to tell me the last 20 salber drivers. And before we get into any questions here, this is the Salba team.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So this covers our. for a Mayo. This covers BMW. Just basically the Swiss outfit hovering here. If you think that it might count, it will. Basically, go with that. Okay, bang, thanks. Okay. Do you want to start, Ari?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Go on. Go on then. Baltrey Bottas. Oh, good one. Thank you. Yeah. Where did you drive for him? Ooh, I'm not sure. Sunday.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Sunday. What I express say Sunday? I'm going to go for are Joe Guangyu what you're about to say, Ben lesser known fact about Joe Guan Yu you did Graves aside by Less of a lot of Alti Botta
Starting point is 00:58:59 Oh, is he? Got him! Yeah. All right. Well, that's 220, go on. Kimmy Reichenen. Twice. Kimmy Reikerner.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Well known fact about Kimmy Rykenen. He formerly raced for Selba. He's a good. Stat, man. Antonio Jovanazzi, anyone? It's just taking my answer. Cheers. That's a freebie.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Don't get them off to. You want to keep going down the list? Yeah, go ahead. He was before that. Charlotte Claire. Okay, bang, how you go? You are still going down the list. This is great.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Okay, so now we go for Lewis Hamilton. No. No, that's wrong, Sam. Oh, no, I've lost it again. I actually don't know. Calder Claire is a correct answer. Next one. Um, I've forgotten who his teammate was.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Oh, I know. I've got other names in my head, but I've forgotten who his teammate was. You can abandon the order. Okay. You don't have to follow this. It's okay. Thank goodness for that. Sergio Perez.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Sergio Perez did, yes. Fun fact about Perez. Formerly raised for Salba. Oh, jeez. Oh, that's going to get old. Um, Indy 500 win. Hey, I'm giving fun facts out here. Indy 500 win with like a word with you, Sam.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Marcus Erickickick. Fiumman. The Eggman. Indy 500 winner. Yes, there you've got Charles LeClaire's old teammate. Sam. Philippe Naza. Oh, the legend.
Starting point is 01:00:32 The legend Philippe Naza is a correct answer. Harry. Esty Goetz. Oh, yes. Esty Goetz. Esty Goots is indeed a correct answer for the reason that he drove for Salma. Sam. I'm actually already struggling now.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Nico Alkenbeg Almost gave you two points for pronunciation Yes, that answer Harry, back to you We're halfway through Oh, Adrian Soutil Adrian Sutil is a correct
Starting point is 01:01:14 answer, well done I fear this may be the last answer So, look out of the bang Man who sits under a tree Nick Heidfeld He sat under a tree, but did you know, he also raced for Salma. Wee. Correct answer.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Wait, wait, we. God. Harry? Bobby Kay. Bobby Kay. Call us Nick Hydefeld's teammate at Salba. Oh, good. Can you get the bleep ready, please?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Oh, my God. Now, let's see you completely mistime the application of the bleep. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. I'm trying to work out why you need a bleeper for the names that are left. But I'll find out. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:01:59 My next answer is, it's Britney. He said it anyway. Nico Rosberg. That's why I was really confused that you needed bleeper because that's not a correct answer. Woo-hoo! Good. That's done. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Harry makes to win. Any of the other seven you can name, Harry? I hate him. Jackville. Are you really? Shackfieldnerve is a correct answer. Yeah. The other
Starting point is 01:02:34 Filippe. Yeah, the other Filippe. Who do I think Rosberg drove for? Drugg of Williams. Oh, let's have the same bloody colour scheme. Rip. Similar livery. This is like you have your own bold
Starting point is 01:02:44 individual colour. Blue and white. Hates blue liverys even more now. I don't know. Lots of noughties drivers. they were very naughty. Nauty, naughty. A lot of people at Salba, like, went to Salba then left and came back again.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Didn't they? It's a good point. A Hydefeld drive for Salba like twice. Not recycling. The Glock drive for that? No, it was just Toyota. Yeah. Fizzy?
Starting point is 01:03:17 Fizzy, yep, that was the last name on the list. That was the last, oh, right. I don't know. Yeah, that's as far back. has 20 got. Ralph Schumacher drive for him? I don't think, did he? No.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I'm Pablo. Just saying names. Just say names. I don't know. I don't know what I. Michael Schumacher. I probably couldn't get any more from that. I mean, they go into the 90s and I've got no chance.
Starting point is 01:03:49 You're around a while, aren't they? Okay, let's give it up there, Ben. That's all right. There were four names left. Pascal Verline was one of them. You then had Camui, Kibayashi. That's his teammate. Pedro Dela Rosa.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Oh, yeah. Of course, famously the lap record holder at Bahrain. Never be beaten. And to be fair, I don't blame you on this one. This was a very obscure answer. He's a four-time champion in the world. Yeah, Sebastian Betel. That came into my mind of blooded two seconds ago.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That's annoying. How many times are we use that sound? It's very relevant. Get a new one. Uh We're going out of the world Well, you don't deserve Ah dear
Starting point is 01:04:39 Right Good well I think that was Minorally successful Indeed It's worked F1 this time Back and forth It's F1
Starting point is 01:04:55 Back and forth It goes backwards Then goes forth It's F4 One. Back and four. F1. You know, the funniest thing is,
Starting point is 01:05:06 the one that we did our Capella is pretty more in time than the recording one. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dumb, dumb, dumb, just do it for an hour. Keep on the loop.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Go mental. Oh, just now I have to say, realize what's about to happen. I'm so happy about to happen. Yes. We can do the actual thing.
Starting point is 01:05:27 We need to build up to it, Harry. Need to build up to it. Go on, Ben. So back and forth, one of my favorite segments on this show. But is it the best segment in all of F1 podcasting? No, it isn't because there's another segment that's even better than back and forth. What might it be, Sam? It is the LB Question of the week.
Starting point is 01:05:54 That's amazing. So good. I'm so happy about all this equipment just for that. Yeah, that's like a thousand pounds. on that. I'm really happy that I wasn't sat around waiting 30 seconds for you to actually say week this time, so I'll take that as a win. Week.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Nice. Oh, God. So we asked the question, if the three of us were wrestler, because, you know, that seems reasonable. What would our names be? I mean, any answers you're like. Twitter is an absolute gold mine for this. I'm going to let you guys pick up Instagram.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But honestly, I'm just going to run through the majority of them on Twitter. So this is going to take a minute, but they're so good. Craig has said, Ben is the Cata lunatic. That is amazing. Sam is Monaco, man. I love that. I love that fuel me with anger. Harry's the fengue.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Get it, get off the faints, which I love. The dumb electrician has said, late breaking light, DBP, in brackets day, Beds of Phillips, and Spaggy. Like shaggy. Daryngy has said, It's Spaggy. Yeah, Mr Spaggy, Spaggy, will be your outro. Darago has said, satisfying Sam Sage,
Starting point is 01:07:08 heartbreak Harry, and Ben would just be the black hole, absolute misery that he is. I'm sure absolutely love. I love that. Zhang, hell yeah. Great name, by the way,
Starting point is 01:07:19 has said, Sam is the L-B-K, the late break kid, Ben, Hock Hogan, and Harry, the best in the world that's spelled W-H-I-R-L-E-D.
Starting point is 01:07:31 There's so many more. Hogan. Yeah. The last, The last one I'm going to give you off Twitter. What you're going to do, brother, when the FIA runs a muck all over you. Christ. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Okay. The last one of Twitter that we gave is from Hancho Grande. Great name. Sam in the Lou. Ben, Ferrari's number one fan and Harry, the Presentator. There's a couple on Instagram and then I'll hand over to Benny Boy. Tree Torn 82. Ben the Quizmaster, which, you know, I,
Starting point is 01:08:05 get that. But then what sealed it for me was Sam was the sausage man, Harry's the gammon boy, and together we're the flying porkers. Oh yes. We've got a tag team. Another one for Chris Tagger to Chips, Chain Link and Tin Bin, which I don't really understand. But then he did one on chat GPT and it came up with Ben the bouncing behemoth, Harry the hairy hurricane and Sam the sizzling sausage. How are you a hairy hurricane? How's it? Hurricane Harry. I don't know. Larry Curley and Mo.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Why? Anyway, I had it over to Ben. So many of the great ones have already been said. And again, there's so many great ones. One I will pick up from Instagram, from CMB 1912. Sam is the Yeha kid. Love that.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Harry is the man of a thousand noisy appliances, and I was the cynical hawkermaniac. They're good. They're good. Inventive. You lot are ridiculous. Together we are the chuckleheads. Oh, yeah, the chuckleheads.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Who said that? I don't remember. Sorry, I'm so sorry. Someone on social calls us a chuckleheads. Was it Craig? It may have been. Sorry. If it's not Craig, it's someone else, then lucky you, Craig.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Flying Porkers. Watch out, watch out. Here comes the gather, boy. The elbow. The flying elbow from place. Sossick out of nowhere. That's a lawsuit. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Right. Thank you very much for all the answers. We'll be back again with another question of the week. We'll be posted next Monday, usual time. Get your answers in. And as usual, the best ones will be played on the podcast. week. But until then, Sam, if you wouldn't mind, getting us out of here.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh, folks, what an episode this has been. A real journey. And you can watch it all on YouTube or most of it. Some bits of it. Bits of it. We'll be cutting up the actual topics because that's what people who don't listen to the late-breaking podcast might want to see. Do it for the algorithm. Please go and watch it.
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Starting point is 01:11:42 I've been Ben Hocking. I've been Pollock Racing. And remember, don't name your team Formula Equal. I love you, YouTube. And I like it. Pollock racing. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good. Do you have to say that?
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