The Late Braking F1 Podcast - What is the best Daniel Ricciardo divebomb? | Q+A | Episode 44

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

In this week's episode we pay tribute to the late great Sir Stirling Moss, answer your questions that you sent in, and discuss whether the likes of Lewis Hamilton need to do more to help youn racing drivers.If you like the podcast make sure you're subscribed! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 podcast. Make sure to look out for new episodes every Thursday and Grand Prix Sundays. Hello and a very warm welcome to the Late Breaking Formula One podcast. My name is Ben Hocking, joined by Samuel Sage and Harry Ead. Guys, just after Easter weekend, how was it for you? Alone. That's going to be boring, but yes, alive.

I mean, we weren't alone, Sam. We just weren't together. Oh, you're always in my heart, lads. I haven't got more the one heart. I mean, you're in my heart, lads. The pluralisation was on Meng. There are two of them that aren't me here. That was very difficult.

I've over-explained that. Let's move on. Yeah, Lex. I mean, a very simple question about Easter managed to turn into something incredibly emotional. But yeah, so tonight we're going to do a slightly special episode. I'd like to think all of our episodes are slightly special, but I mean that in that the topic's going to be a bit.

bit different. We're going to be doing a Q&A session. So we have asked the masses, and one or two have applied, on Twitter and on Instagram and on YouTube. We've put it out there. We've said, what do you want to ask us? Literally anything is on the table. So we'll have a look at what people have asked us. And we'll be going through those answers later on in the show. But first of all, some rather sad news that came out of this weekend is that Sir Stirling Moss at the age of 90, He passed away after a long illness. Obviously, Sterling Moss well before our time, but he is one of the most decorated drivers in F1 history.

I think most people would agree he is one of, if not the greatest driver, never to have won the World Championship, 16 times bronze three winner in all the races. He won over 200 races across his career as well. So an amazing career. and sort of just a very brief one on this, Sam, Harry. You know, what do you think about,

what do you think about his delamoss's career? I mean, he's an absolute legend with a British motive, right? Yeah, it could be more legendary. Pretty shocking to hear that he's no longer with us. It's another incredibly sad loss. I mean, I'm not going to come here and slag him off, am I, the poor man is here anymore. He can't even defend himself.

But I couldn't slag him off if I want to see whether he's here or not. That bloke is one of the greats. It makes you proud to be brave. British. You know, he's creating a lot of heritage for Formula One. He's a brilliant, brilliant bloke and he will be missed massively from the motorsport family, community, and he'll be remembered. Yeah, I mean, he's the, Sterling Moss is the archetypal racing driver, isn't he? He's the, you know, whoever everyone would would know about, I mean, maybe not this generation, our generation, but back of the day, he was a household name. Everyone who's Sterling.

Moss was. So yeah, it's sad to see him go, but my God, did he have a good innings? Did he fit in enough into his life? Yeah, as he say, 200 wins to his name should have desperately had a world championship, but it doesn't make any difference to his career success, I don't think. And yeah, he shall be missed. That's another sad loss for F-1. Absolutely. And motor sports. Yeah, yeah. And a point you picked up on, Harry, I think that it is important to remember, Moss was racing at such a dangerous time where a lot of people did not leave their careers with their lives intact. And Sterling Moss not only survived his years in motorsport, he had a full life from there on after. I mean, it's, what, 58 years since he retired from the sport. So it's great

that, you know, not many from that era were able to live a full life. But Sterling Moss was one of those. To go back to the point, I've always said, I think he is without a doubt the greatest driver never to have won the world championship. And it speaks a lot to the fact that he has the most wins of anyone who has never won the world championship. In that era, he only raced 66 times. Like, think of the amount of drivers that have raced more in Formula One Grand Prix as the number of races per season has increased. And it's incredible how that record is. It's incredible how that record is still intact. We've seen like use race wins as an example. Fangio held the record and then Clark and then Stewart and then Prost and Schumacher and more than likely Hamilton will now claim it

because they've just had more opportunity. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person that has come after has been better, but they've had more races in order to achieve what they have. So it speaks volumes that that Stirling Moss record is still intact even to this day. And, a 23% win rate. He was runner up four times in the championship. He was a world champion in everything but name. And all of our thoughts do go out to his family, obviously, a very tough time. But we're going to move on. We are going to go on to our Q&A now, as we referenced at the start of the show. People have in their droves, not really, got in touch with their questions.

And we're going to go through them now. So starting with a question on Twitter from Kid's Luff F1. Thank you for this question. It is. What is your favorite Ricardo Dive Bomb? It was inspired obviously by us being late breaking,

arguably the best late breaker in the game right now. Harry, what's your favorite Daniel Ricardo Dive Bomb? This is a good question, Kids Luff F1, because there's a lot of them. He's dive won a lot of people.

There's a couple that's bring to mind. The one for the lead in China in 2018 against Bottas, because that was millimeters from disaster, but it was judged perfectly, and he obviously then went on to win the race. But the one, again, is on Bottas, but in a different year,

this brings to mind the most, is Monza 2016, and he comes from absolutely miles back. Like, no car deserve to be overtaken from that far back, and I'm sure Bottas thought the same thing. Yeah, he absolutely sends it. If you watch the onboard camera, he's celebrating it straight after in the cockpit.

So, yeah, look, there's so many to choose one, but those two definitely spring to mind. But I'll plonk for 2016 Monza as my favourite one. Sam, what about yours? Well, I'm annoyed that Harry's gone first because it's just taking the best. They are the best too, in my opinion, and the cheek, the pure cheek of

not only is you going down a possible world champion contendee of Valtry Bottas, you then stick your hand out of the cockpit, give a cheeky, you know, finger thumb, wavers he likes to do on the podium. And he says some kind of really cheeky lines. I'm like, you know, how'd you like that?

Or, you know, eat that one up. Or something like that over his team radio. He's so proud of it. The arrogance of it. But he's so, I'm allowing it. You could be as arrogant as you want. You're putting a braking maneuver off. That far back, it's exquisite.

It's gorgeous. He's a lit, every first class stamp and sent it. And I can watch over takes like that all day long. You don't get those out of another drivers. And my God, can that man hit the brake-twing e-stoo? So yeah, Ricardo and Monsa is, I think, the best eye bomb. Actually, I picked out those two as well. However, I did have a third one that hasn't been mentioned yet,

and that is the one into turn one at Azerbaijan. Was it 2017? Yeah, yeah. That one sprung out as well. I'm actually going to go for the China one as the best one, though, just because as brilliant as that was at Monser, the timing of the one at China, how he absolutely needs to get past for that victory.

That one takes it for me. Okay. Question number two, this one is from Sam O'Gara. What team, past or present, do you think has always had good liveries? Sam, you can go first on this one. Well, again, it's obvious. I mean, there's a lot of great livery teams

in history throughout time. We've got so many of the stand out, but I think the team that always delivered great liveries, and we've had one released on the F-on-2020 game as it's coming as a Schumacher special, is Jordan. Jordan have, I think, in my eyes, as a team, got the best deliveries of all time. I've declared my love for the gorgeous yellow and black wasp-like livery they had in the early 2000s and late 90s. The yellow, the green and blue seven-up livery is a lot of people's favorites or is up. they were their most iconic liverys. For me, Jordan as a team,

have always managed to stand out on the grid. Over so many people, even with the likes of Ferrari having their iconic reds, you know, I just think that they've always gone above and beyond. I'm not really sure why, but they really stand out. There's other great nomination, you know, Spiker. I've always enjoyed the orange that they had there.

Arrows as well, of course, hang orange too. Lotus, have had some great livery. So you get the Williams of old. And as did the Marbleb McClarens. But yeah, for me, Jordan is, but I far away the best livery team across its lifespan of a team. All right, Harry?

I don't want to agree with Sam. Who does? But, exactly. Jordan has got to be up there for liveries. The green 7-Up, 1991 car, the yellow buzzing Hornets car. But, okay, to mix it up, though, I'm going to say, bless you, Ben. I'm going to say, oh, what do you say? a cough then.

You bless. Bing Rona. Right. Whatever. Wow. Right. Lotus, that's the team I'm going to say, because they had, they've had some iconic liveries, maybe not in their latter years.

But, you know, you go back to the 60s and, you know, the green with the yellow stripe, iconic Jim Clark, liveried car. And then you go to the, when they, you know, first team to get sponsorship when they rock up, with sponsorship, with the gold leaf tobacco sponsor, that gold and red car. And then obviously the JPS Lotus, which are famous in a motorsport folklore, the black and gold, which as hard as Hass and Rena have tried since, they've never really emulated properly. So I agree with Sam, but to be different, I'm going to say Lotus.

Fantastic choice. That will have been, I think, my other choice. So that's off to you. That's a brilliant choice of liveries. Yeah, I can't argue with either of those. The Jordans have always been beautiful. Same with the lotuses. I think Arrows is another good name that you bring up, Sam.

I'm going to go for Jaguar here. You know, it's very well documented how much I love those Jaguar liverys, particularly the R1, but the R2 and the R3 were fairly close as well, I think. So, yeah, Jaguar takes it for me. If I had to pick out any other names, maybe Benetton had throw in there as well. they had some good liveries. Yeah, I'm going to go for Jaguar. It was definitely the gold rims

that sold it to you, though, about the Jaguar, right? It's definitely that stood out to the guys. All about the gold rims. Yep, yep, yep, all about the gold rims. It says a lot about how beautiful the Jaguar livery is that it can overcome the disgusting element of it, the one and only disgusting element of that Jaguar,

and that is tacky, gold ring. Inui. The man that ever Gove for Jaguar, but attacking him. King of Jaguars. It shows that green and yellow just make fantastic Formula One cars. We've all picked a team that are one-point sponsoring

a very well-documented green or yellow car. Yes, absolutely. Fun facts, man. Very fun fact. The funnest of all the facts. All right, next question. This one comes from Mike at F1 Fanatics. Of course, Mike has appeared on the channel before.

and he's asked a very important question, possibly the best question we've had so far. How do you like your steak cooked? And this on Twitter did lead to some steak puns, which you can check out if you go to at L Breaking. Get that plug in there. Sam, how do you like your steak cooked? Well, I weren't making mistakes with my judgment.

Nice. Hang on, hang on, do that. Say that again. Sam. I'm not going to make any mistakes with my judgment. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to keep this one nice and close to the bone. Medium rare is the absolute best way to have your steak. Minium rare steak is by far the best way and the proper way to have your steak.

If you're going to be a judgey snob as well. If you go to a steakhouse or anything else, you'll be looked at like a mob. But yeah, medium rare to me, a little bit bloody in the middle. That's how I take it. Fantastic answer. Harry, what have you got? Like a good vet could save it. I, again, I have to agree with Sam on this. I hate to say, medium rare is the only way forward for your stakes and a bit bloody in the middle.

Not that it's still mooing, but bloody in the middle nonetheless. I don't have a cow sound effect. I'd just dig one for you. If you had 13 minutes and 42 seconds predicted that the first time Sam would move on this podcast, well done, you win. I'm all aboard the medium rare train, to be perfectly honest. Chew-choo.

More thoroughfare. Yes. Yeah, medium rare is the only way to go. If you like your steak, well done. We are completely inclusive, but please leave. No one listens to this podcast anymore. Okay. Now we've got that important question out of the way of.

We can get some that don't matter as much. I'm kidding, of course. We've got a question. This is actually a serious one as well from David Noble on Twitter. Do you prefer the quicker, more aerodynamically sort of compact 2008-era cars or slower, more sleek, simple designs. An example he's used as cars of the early 90s. So what style of car do you find best, Harry?

I don't like the, I don't like the 08 cars. There are too many bits hanging off it by the end of that year. Do I have to choose between 08 and early 90s? Or is he talking naughtyies in general? I mean, he used the years as an example, but it was more just a general question. Because I think my favorite era of cars for style, and maybe it's just the age I am where we grew up with F1, but like the early noughties, particularly like 03, 04, 05, those cars, I think they just look so cool. I know they're narrow and some people don't like that but they're just they look light, nimble

there's not too many bits hanging off them but there's not a lot of aerodynamics and I just think and they sound ridiculous as well. Yeah, I think early naughty for me would edge it over early 90s but again I like those as well to be honest. Fair enough. Sam, what do you think about this one? Well firstly, log-in-law to Big Dave gives us a lot of support so thanks for the

question, buddy. Not a time for that. I'm on the same wavelength as Harry. 08 has a lot going on. You know, it's kind of when you're going on a date and you look at the date across you're like, you've maybe, you've maybe overdone it a little bit there. Simpler is sometimes a little better. But, you know, you know, it's still beautiful.

You know, it's still what you want. And those naughty's cars were, oh, they were naughty. They were naughty to look at. They were amazing. You know, they were, as Harry said, they were so. nimble, they were powered brilliantly, they sounded great, and yes, we're all of around the same age. So when we look back at Formula One, nostalgicly, that's the time where we were all really coming into the full watching of Formula One.

So it gets exciting for us there. The early 90s has some brilliant cars. They were gorgeous to look at, but I just love, I love those cars. Yeah, so for me, they hung away at a special place. That's where I first fully 100% was consciously engaged in Formula One as well. So for me, the mid to mid-to-late Norty's cars were brilliant. I hate to agree, but I do. So, yeah, I've got no hatred for the sort of 0708 era of cars.

They were great fun. However, I think that they've become a point probably around 2005 when the sort of technical regulations came in then that were intended to help overtaking and help following, and they ended up doing the complete opposite of it. I think at that point, they went a little bit backwards for me, and I do agree that the early noughties are the design of the end. early noughties cars were fantastic. I think 2000, 2001. Actually, no, because I mean, 2003,

the cars were great as well. I think just all of that era, really. Early 90s agree that sort of the simple design looks great too. I don't think there's a defined recipe as to what makes a beautiful, good-looking car that is also incredibly quick. But yeah, I think they got close to nailing it in the early noughties from that sort of period of time. And I mean, just a quick point on that. You know, like you said, the simplicity and whatnot. I think that the new era of cars we've got coming up, which whenever that happens now, we're not sure.

But I think that is going to be the perfect matchup between modern design and that big simplistic, bold color scheme of what was going on in the early 90s. So I think we're going to see some of the best looking cars we've ever had in the next four or five years. I agree with that. My only issue is I think they just need to be a bit lighter. The new car is still going to be quite heavy, but I'm down with what you're saying there. Yep, agree with that.

Actually, David Noble has asked two questions. That was the more serious one. The slightly less serious one is about Sam himself. So we'll let Sam answer it. Is Sam ever sensible? I'll ask one question in answer to that, David. Could a chocolate digestive swim the Atlantic? I mean

I think also I'm also a joke What an analogy that is I've got nothing I'll take a lot of pride at how often I shock a pair of you Why Why

Right Why that particular choice of biscuit And why the Atlantic Why are the Indian Ocean Well we live by the Atlantic Ocean To a degree Yeah but you're not a digestive You mean the

The British Channel, not the Atlantic Ocean? Which flows into the Atlantic. I think a biscuit would survive a bit of the channel. Or the slur if you're French, Malting Ashok. Make it to the Atlantic. Especially a hobnob. I tried to go for something that's very average base in thickness. A hobnob would absorb the entire Atlantic Ocean.

That's why I couldn't choose a hobnob. Imagine a short bread wouldn't stand a chance, would it? No, I mean, the issue would have a kind of. the cream is it would separate and then you wouldn't know what side you were following. Pathetic shortbread wouldn't make it out of the harbour. You're listening to Biscuit chat with the LB boys. The being LB, start a biscuit. Lay biscuit.

Oh dear. Thank you, David. That was brilliant. Yeah, so in answer to the question, is Sam sensible? If that discussion doesn't tell you one way or the other, you need to work on your observation skills. We've got two more questions. Firstly, from Nikki on Twitter.

Thank you for the question, Nikki. Because it's just a lovely question, basically, just asking, how are you guys doing without F1? And how are you spending the time? Obviously, it's a bit of a weird time for us all. Harry, how have you been spending the last few weeks? I've been talking to you too. Yes.

a lot and I've I've cooked a lot of food and I've been cooking and I've oh I've been getting into cooking some some big bits of meat lately you know I did a bit

I did some duck the other day and then I did I did a big big a big bit of pork pork leg and what else I do I can't remember anyway so a bit of cooking

Joe Wicks is my new favourite friend. He keeps me, he's semi-fit and kills me every time. And apart from that, I just sat in a corner and cried because there's no F-1. The late-breaking F-1 podcast, sponsored by veganism. Hold up. Are you gone vegan as well? No. Oh, good.

No, but clearly I was, I mean, in reference, to the just cooking loads of meat. Oh, that's a good point, because I've definitely not not vegan. Sorry, sorry. We're not sponsored by veganism. Definitely not yet anyway. Okay. So Sam, how have you been spending the last few weeks,

apart from a shouting at youths from your balcony? Folks, there's photo evidence of me sitting out in the garden and an old rusty chair looking like a, an old American on their balcony going, get off my damn porch. I don't actually spend my day doing that. I was sub-bathing because it was nice weather, but I couldn't leave the property.

I shaved my head. I was one of the many fools to do that. So my hair is growing back. It's returning. Thank God. I thought I might be bored forever. I, too, have been cooking. And I am almost vegan now.

I try and only have meat a couple times a week. We'll never go the full hog. Get it. But... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang. There you go. And again, it's so good. But yeah, I'm trying to be a little bit more planet-conscious.

And I've done a lot of online gaming, a bit of sim racing, playing. I've moved to Football Manager, watched a few people on YouTube. And now I just torment Ian. Ian is, in fact, a cat, a female cat. Yeah, not Ian Beale. There is not like a 40-year-old bloke who I also just live with. Ian is a cat. He literally has someone locked up in a cupboard called Ian.

It's all alive, folks. I'm actually a horrible man. It's all mends him. Poor him. I'll throw chocolate biscuits at him that are beginning the Atlantic. Yeah, one thing that we have done, the three of us have started a championship of project cars, and it's proven that we are all equally useless at that game.

It's amazing. We've done six races, and we're all separated by about eight points, and we are so bad. I think none of us have managed to go an entire race without facing the wrong way, at least one. Every time one of us gets some sort of lead, we mess up the next race and then that just draws it back level

and someone else will take the lead and they'll mess up the next race and it just evens itself out basically I mean if anyone is interesting in a kind of other type of motorsport gaming session or a bit of football or any other suggestions if you want to play a bit of risk

then I'm all for it. Get involved in the comics maybe we'll set something up. It's my all-time favourite board game. I've actually been playing the on the risk app over the last few weeks. You know what, Ben, you never fail to amaze me. Does that amaze me?

You always have the best apps, Ben. It's true. I do have the best apps and risk is well. No, Ben. Give us your top three apps right now. Top three apps. I mean, risk is definitely on there. You know, I can't stay away from Twitter.

Twitter is definitely one of Ben's recommended apps. I'm going to have a scroll through the little phone, see what we can find on here. Number three, folks. It's getting excited. Oh, train line. Train line is a belter. Trailine. If you didn't know... Well, folks, there you go.

You've found it here. Ben's top three apps. Until next week, on they're breaking. I'll be able to ask you music. Is this jingle over end? No. No, cut the music. What have we got there in the end?

Apart from playing risk, What have I been doing over the last few weeks? I've done a bit of sim racing as well. Obviously, not quite to the degree of Sam. I don't have a wheel, which I really need to get at some point. I've actually been just re-watching the 2012 season. I'm literally five races in now. Who do you think is going to win?

My money's on Perez, but Alonzo could have it. I heard you heroically saved your girlfriend from a bumble. Oh, God. Yeah, that happened. That was a weird one. We've actually bought an indoor bowling set. I mean... Hang on. Why do we only find out with these things on a podcast?

I mean, I've probably big that up way too much. It's literally like a rubbish set from ASTA, but... Have you got the shoes? Do you walk up to your own little copy and go, I'll have a size eight, please? Yes, I actually sell. legline shoes. I mean, they'd be more interesting than my other shoes. Yes, that's fair.

What size ball do you use for you? Testicle. No. Right, no. I don't. Not on weekdays, anyway. I'm not sure how, it's not really the size of any ball I can compare it to. It's like a...

Like a foot. Half the size of a proper bowling bowl. Okay. Like a long bowl. I think we've all got an image. Yeah, that's good. We do. Let's get on to the next question.

This is going on to... Oh, no, I don't think it went on long enough. So, yeah, we do have the last question now. Now, this is a bit of an interesting one. Outside Line on Twitter put together a very well-thought-out question of if we could build a 30-rates calendar using any track around the world, whether it's hosted F-1 before, hosts F-1, host F1 now doesn't matter the only thing is we did do this a few weeks ago

so I would definitely recommend checking out that one we built a 20 race calendar between the three of us and it went all right I think we got some good circuits on there I'm just trying to think how we can adapt that question to make it a bit more time friendly and also something that we haven't done before shall we just pick three circuits

that we definitely want to feature there. Sure. Yeah. Good idea. Each. Have you got three of mine, Sam? Yeah, I would definitely pick Bathurst.

Love it. Difficult. A lot of crashing. That's what I like to see. Daytona, infield circuit would be brilliant. The banking, I think, will be better. The Zang Fort. Sorry, Netherlands.

A lot of overtaking opportunity. It would be good there. And the third one. I want to say Cadwell Park. Oh. Maybe I'll be pushing my luck. I'd like to see the NERBo bring back, please. But, mate, I'll let the comments aside.

GD or full version. Oh, yeah, didn't even think about that. Harry, what would your 3B? I would go for Silverstone, which is already on there, obviously, because it's the home of British motor racing. I would also go for Spar. This is going to be boring.

It's going to pick Trout already there, but I love Spar. And I would also go. for, I think of a track that's not on the F-1 calendar. I would go for Le Mans. Because I'd love to the F-1, so F-1 cars go around

Le Mans, and it has to be 24-hour race. Cool. Cool stuff. I'll go for three as well that haven't already been said by the two of you, and I'm going to go for three that aren't on the F-1 calendar now. The Indie Grand Prix circuit. I really love that circuit.

I don't even know why. I mean, it's a good circuit, but I just absolutely love it. Fuji, I'll put Fuji in there. I think it's a pretty good circuit as well. And I would have said Nuremberg ring, but I'll go with Watkins Glenn. God, you bloody love Watkins, Glenn.

If you love it so much, why don't you marry it? Yeah, Ben. I am now Ben, Glenn. Does that make you? That is so good. Oh. Oh. Sensacious.

Ben, Hot Kings Gleng. Ben Glenn is better. Ben Gleng is great. Well, I knew that Q&A wouldn't produce normal results. It's managed to produce Ben Glenn

and also a top three app review. So, as expected, I think you could say. I think that went well. I don't think it could have gone any better. Do we have another topic? Yeah, we're going to go on something a bit more serious now,

which is about Mr. Oliver Rowland. Obviously, a Formula E driver, races for Nissan at the moment. He was recently on the Inside Electric podcast. Definitely recommend checking that out if you haven't already. And he was being interviewed, and he voiced his displeasure. I think the word is,

most appropriate word to use is people complaining about how much grassroots level motorsport costs, but they're not really doing anything about it. He used Lewis Hamilton as an example of someone who has spoken up about it before, but doesn't necessarily put any action behind those words. It wasn't really a dig at Lewis Hamilton specifically. I think it was just the first example that came to mind and it was more of a general displeasure. But it does open the question up. I mean, Roland himself has got his own carting team. He does fund a few young drivers and sponsors them and tries to help them through their career. Sam, do you think that the likes of Hamilton, and not just Hamilton, but the likes of Hamilton should be doing more to help at that

level? It's odd, isn't it? Because this has been around, this discussion has been around for a long time. Should the current crop of top drivers be trying to make it easy for those around them? And Lewis Hamilton is a prime example, you know, the highest ever paid Formula One drive. But at the same time, him and his family crawled through possible debt. They barely got to eat. You know, his dad spent every penny he could on progressive Lewis Hamilton's career. So they've not come from the easy, wealthy background that a few other drivers have come from. So you think maybe he'd understand.

I think he does understand. But why also is it the responsibility of one man, whether that be Hamilton or Vettel or whatever you want to put in the pop-hot? to turn that around. And I think companies such as Mercedes, such as Red Bull, Ferrari, other racing teams, other major companies that are invested in motorsport should be doing more. They should be setting up, you know,

free to drive trials. They should be setting up discounting schemes. You know, why has they got the ability that you have it in football and football is as hard financially to get involved with as Formula One is. I mean, maybe you've got to pay a bit more for a cart, but it's got like football isn't dominated by finances. Racing is the same thing.

Yeah, okay, Lewis Hamilton could do a little bit more. Maybe when he retires, he will. Fernando Alonkso has done the same thing. He's retired and he's got his own casting team. He's got his own e-sports team. He's more investing in that community aspect now. And we might sit up from a few drivers. But when you're racing on track, I don't really know if you've got the time and ability

to yourself handle training, investing, scouting, young talent and funding them and helping them while they've got a full season of competitive racing. You're a full organization, such as McLaren or Mercedes, and you're a worldwide name, and you've got people everywhere, you can easily employ a team with a couple of people, maybe per region, cutting Europe, cutting America, whatever, to go around scouting some young kids and give them a bit of a shot and give them, you know, an all-expenses paid ride if they're good enough. Why not?

I think it's more onus on companies and the corporate side of Formula One and Liberty Media to do something to make it more accessible than it is around the drivers. They are a voice. I think they're doing a good job. I think it's a little bit much to expect them to not only juggle racing for the entire season individually, but also then individually go out and almost run a whole company themselves while they're helping other people, doing almost a charitable thing. For me, your teams need to do it first, and then I think drivers and the community will follow.

One of the things that Roland mentions on the podcast is that even if Lewis Hamilton or someone like him did not necessarily start their own team or actually actively take a role, just the weight of their words sort of advocating for someone in putting their name to a few young drivers would be enough to sort of drive sponsorship up. He wouldn't need to do anything. He would literally only need to put his name on their name, so to speak. Harry, do you think this is something that he could do or others could do? I agree with Sam in the sense that it's not necessarily his responsibility. Yes, he can set up F1 teams, sorry, set up like carting teams like Alonzo has done.

But I agree with Sam, the onus is on the governing bodies of motorsports to make racing cheaper for young drivers to go racing. And I think she's something that's going to come out of this coronavirus crisis we're in at the moment, where there'll be lots of teams in Formula One and lower down the motorsport ranks that will be struggling for money. And I think motorsports across the board are going to have to become cheaper to run because I think we'll see a lot of teams drop off or drop out with just their money otherwise. So, yeah, it's a problem. You know, going racing is always going to be expensive, but it doesn't have to be quite. as expensive as it is at the moment. And yeah,

look, drivers can help, but I don't think it's necessarily, the onus isn't on them. Maybe they can lobby the governing bodies to help, but I don't think they necessarily need to be the ones trying to make it cheaper for other drivers coming up. Yeah, I would agree with that.

And one thing I would say is that Lewis Hamilton, he could put his name on a few young driver's names. You know, he could set up his own team. And he you could go ahead with initiatives like that. The problem is it doesn't really attack the issue. The issue is that grassroots is too expensive.

If you're funding a few people to go through it, yes, you're probably going to catch a few more of those that have the ability of Lewis Hamilton. Like you've already referenced, Sam, Hamilton didn't have the wealth that many other young drivers coming through had. And if he didn't necessarily have his whole plan laid out for him, they did have to really grit their teeth and get through it.

So I think the likes of Hamilton and those that have his ability, they will be caught if they are more people out there looking to see who should get the nod. But that doesn't attack the real issue that it's still going to cost too much. You're still going to have people fall through the cracks. And it's more a case of rather than focusing on one or two individuals, you want to make the sport more accessible from as early an age as possible. That's what's going to get you the best quality field. And that's what's going to help make motorsport grow.

And, you know, fair play to what Roland is doing, no disrespect to him at all. And, you know, what he's done with his own karting team is great. And you would want other people to do the same. You know, he is a full-time driver as well as plenty of those on the F1 grid and in other motorsports as well. And he's finding the time to do it. So, you know, credit to him for putting his money where his mouth is in that respect. But yeah, I agree.

I think the onus is more on the sport in general from the very top down to make sure that we are getting the very best people coming through. I think if you look at some of the drivers that we've had in Formula One, and I think pay drivers, quote unquote pay drivers, are becoming a thing of the past to a degree. I don't think we're having anywhere near as many now as we once had. But yeah, there's definitely more that can be done. and you look at so many drivers who are second generation and third generation drivers. It's a huge percentage. And the reason is not because, you know, it's a generational talent thing. I don't think it is at least.

I think it's a case of it's such a closed-off sport that we're not actually getting the maximum potential we can from these grids. I think with other sports, football, if you want to take that as an example, nearly every kid in the country is going to have an opportunity to play football and you are going to be able to spot the talent and then sort of get them into programs, it's very likely that the best footballers in the country have been found and there aren't many that are going to go under the radar. I don't think the same could be said for motorsport because it is so closed off.

I think you've got hundreds of people all around the country who have the ability that many of those in F1 currently do have. but without the opportunity, without the training and the cost of development, you're never going to get that full potential of, you know, the best grid you can get. So I think for the sake of the product, the overall quality, the governing body should be doing more. Well, be interesting to all who in the comments think. If you are listening, if you are wondering, talk to us on our L breaking at Twitter, or if you're watching this on YouTube, of course, get down in the comments.

Let us know what you think about the situation. should Liberty Media, should the governing bodies like the FIA be doing more to help fund younger kings who are in maybe poorer areas get involved in motorsport? There could be some real hidden talents. Lewis Hamilton was one of them. Yeah, absolutely. We're always interested to know what you think, and particularly on a topic like this that can divide plenty of people. And, you know, solutions fly around as to what you would do. And, you know, we welcome those solutions.

Please let us know. How would you attack this? I'm sure there's some great ideas out there. But until that, I think we've pretty much wrapped up here. Sam, do you want to go us out of here? Well, if you've enjoyed the ramblings on today, the sinningness, the comedic behaviour, get involved. Can I come and follow us on Twitter? We'll have a conversation with you there.

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