The Late Braking F1 Podcast - Who is the BEST driver of the season so far?

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Who has impressed the most? The LB boys fill your F1 break by each picking their best drivers of the season so far. They also discuss Renault ending their engine programme, whether the FIA deserves more credit (spoiler: no), and their thoughts on this four-week "Autumn Break". They finish with a surprise quiz... FOLLOW us on socials! You can find us on YouTube, Instagram, X (Twitter) and TikTok SUPPORT our Patreon for bonus episodes JOIN our Discord community JOIN our F1 Fantasy League BUY our Merch EMAIL us at [e-mail]   & SUBSCRIBE to our podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Thank you for listening to the Late Breaking F1 Podcast. Make sure to check out new episodes every Wednesday and every Sunday. Well, welcome to the late breaking F1 podcast presented by Harry Ead, Sam Sage, and me, Ben Hocking. We've just done a P.O. box opening. And if you'd like to send us anything via our P.O. box, we are very, very grateful to receive anything. And Sam, we've just been wetting ourselves for the last five minutes. Yes, I may get a certain appendage out for Pierre Gasly,

and that item that I've received in the PO box may reference a certain item that comes out for Pierre Gasly. So... Appendage, that's awful. I'm surprised you've got an opinion on it, mate, based on what you received. Yeah, well, we weren't, we weren't spoiled, but that peer box opening involved Nicholas Latifie, a fence and a sausage. We had a great time.

All good stories start that way. It sounds like to start a joke. They all walk into a bar. Good. Shockingly enough, Nicholas Latifi doesn't feature on today's rundown, which is a massive shame. But we do still have a lot to keep you occupied. We've got a question of the week, of course, coming up later on. We've got some comments from Max Verstappen about the calendar.

Alpine have decided they don't want to make their own engines anymore. But let's start with this question, who's in the running for driver of the season? Now, Max Verstappen's looking pretty healthy in the driver's championship standings. it would be a surprise, but not impossible for him to lose that at this stage. But there is still a question about whether he has been the best driver so far this season. So, Sam, kick us off on this one. Who's in the running for the award at the moment in your eyes? And who do you think it is right now?

I am really pleased that you've come to me first, because folks, if you didn't know, we do our power rankings after every single Grand Prix. So we actually have a spreadsheet. Where can you find those? That's in Patreon, mate, which is the links down. low and you could get loads and loads of content every single month. And it's great value for money. I won't go into anything else about that topic.

So looking at my very nicely prepared spreadsheet, which has been made by Ben, because that's the kind of man that Ben is. First place for me, currently, you know, I'll give you a spoiler there, a little tidbit, is Charler-Claire. Charles Leads the way. And I really do think he's having a sublime season.

The consistency of drives that he's producing with the level of car that he's actually had available to him for a long of the Grand Prix. Whilst the car's got been god-awful, we have had some absolute dire moments throughout the season where, you know, strategy's gone awry, upgrades haven't gone in the right direction, they seem to struggle with tyres for a long period of time. And then suddenly, they've turned it around so much so that Belgium, Netherlands and Italy, I gave Lecler three consecutive tens in a row. That's how good I thought he was.

So for me, Charlotte, Clair is leading the way. I generally think he's having a very underrated season because he's not involved in the title fight. There will be Yvastappans, young Norrisis, etc. But I think that I think the clue's absolutely smashing and deserves a lot of the plaudits for it. Is anyone outside of those three names in contention? I think there's maybe some surprises of the season

or maybe some up-and-comers who I didn't expect. So, for example, Nika Holgerbergh, I think he's doing an absolutely brilliant job. He has cracked the top 10 for the first time in the points tally so far this season. he's out driving that horse fantastically well. I was really, really impressed by how well he's doing. Piastri, I think he's absolutely exceeding expectations as well. I think he's driving spectacularly well. And it's made himself, you know, there's a few more races this season,

not that we need them. Then I genuinely think that he's in the contention for a title fight. And then it's short, it's so short, but Franco Colopinto has done three races and I actually think he's smashing it. So not driver of the season by any shot, but he deserves a little mention for how well he started. I heard Colopinto driver of the season. there might have been a negative in the middle

but I heard Colopinto driver the season which I think you engaged with Sam I bet you asked the question and then there was like silence for a bit and then Sam just said Franka Colopinto driver of the season I thought he was going to mention Charles Leclair amongst me fair

because he's in his top of his power rankings as well so I really thought the player would get mentioned I hate doing a podcast with you too yeah same good I love you both I don't know why you're being so negative Aaron morons

Harry, do you think that what names do you think are in contention who's been driver of the season so far for you? I agree. Lecler is definitely up there. Piaastri, I think I would put up there as well. He obviously didn't have as good as start to the season as Norris did,

but what he's done since then for me is cementing him as one of the drivers of the season, if not the driver of the season. This is happen again. There's another one you can't look past because of how well he's, how well he drove when the car was dominant and really good. But actually, and again, I feel like a lot of the time it goes under the radar, some of his performances when the car has not been, where the car is now basically,

where it's not been, you know, the fastest or the most dominant, arguably even more impressive because the fact that he has, I know there have been mistakes from others like Norris, etc. and Ferrari, but the fact that he still has the lead he has. is down to the fact that he's driving so well in a car that clearly isn't as quick as it used to be versus competition. So I think the three for me are Vestappen, Leclair, Piastri. I don't know which order I'd put them in, which is probably a classic me. Piaastri, just because I'm quite, I'm so impressed with that. He's in year two, which I feel like he's forgotten quite often.

He's not finished his. And the Norris fans are going to storm your home and pull you out into the street. Wait, he's stopped bottling it, doesn't he? I thought I was back. Oh no. I'm only chasing you, Land, I know us fans.

But he's not driving the season. So, yeah, I go with those three. I think the argument you made for Vestappen is a very fair one in that what he's had to do

this season, I think it's quite different to what he's had to do in the last two seasons. I know Ferrari threatened a challenge in 2022 for, what was it,

three and a half races or so. Threatened doing a lot of heavy lifting there, mate. Well, for a short amount of time It's like running at you in the dark with a marshmallow in your hands

really. So initially you might go, whoa, you go, oh, actually. It's just a marshmallow. It's just a marshmallow. I'll join you and eating it. Just shine with the situation.

That still might scare me, you know. But yeah, I think Vastappan, you've sort of alluded to what he did at the beginning of the season and what he did, what he's been doing since then. I always think with Vastappan, it's almost been in three parts,

where he had a dominant car, where he had a car that was capable of winning, but he's the one that made the difference. And what we've got now, which is the car's just not there and he's having to maximize whatever's put in front of him on every given weekend. Like, if we're going to take those three stages in turn,

I don't think any of us would have said at the beginning of this season, how valuable it would have been for Vestappen to mop up those race wins because if he wasn't as on the ball as he was to start the year, it'd be in a spot of trouble now. apart from Australia, which obviously wasn't his fault because he DNFed through a mechanical issue,

Bahrain, he was superb. Saudi Arabia, he was great. China, he would have won that by about five minutes if there weren't for a safety car. In Japan as well, like four of the first five races, he was so dominant. And that's really helping him out now in the championship. But then it almost went into the he can win,

but it's a struggle territory, But he did win. Like he won Imola, he won Spain, he won Canada. Those three wins were very impressive. Again, if they go Norris's way, we're looking at a very different picture right now. And then, of course, you look at the more recent races where Singapore and Zamvort, he too finishes. He's doing everything he can in those two races.

Silverstone, he shouldn't have been second in that Grand Prix yet he found his way there. So I think the argument for Vestappen is obvious in that his team might not win the Constructed championship and he will probably win the driver's championship. But the range of ability he's had to show this year might be the most impressed thing I am about Vastappen so far. It's a shame that Hungary happened. Oh yeah, there's been blips. Hungary is probably the most, well, maybe not the most notable.

It depends on what you think about the Austrian Grand Prix. I mean, I would say that was a blip from Vastappen side because I still do place blame at his feet for the incident with Lando Norris. but certainly Austria, Hungary, I'm not sure if they're a Baku as well. I think you'd have to throw in there as well based on what his teammate did, but they have been few and far between.

So he's definitely, I mean, in the running might be a bit of an obvious statement, but for me, he's leading the way. Yeah, it is interesting to see. Obviously, every driver has their ebbs and flows. The reason why I have LeClau at the top is because I genuinely think that any negative results realistically have come from the team

or the updates that they've done. made to the car or poor stratsky calls which you know some reflection can be based on the driver of course they have a saying what happens but not that much i don't think whereas i think you know lecler when he has a normal race day he exceeds he absolutely exceeds you look you just have to look at what happened at belgium for example where he beat both vestappen and norris in a car that i believe was inferior to both of those drivers um i think that's why i've got him slightly separate from kind of those other two i would say that charle lecler has had the most impressive four race run of the season of anyone so far and it is that that run that you kind of said about sam where

really from hungary to monza he was phenomenal yeah monza was the standout because obviously he's winning in front of the tofosi but equally every result before that hungry he put the car where it didn't deserve to be zamvv might have been the best of the lot like he should not have been on the podium that day yet he found a way ahead of the likes of piastri belgium that you referenced as well. I think he kept a couple of cars behind him that probably shouldn't have been there. So in terms of like form, I don't know if anyone beats that runner form that Lecler had. Yeah, it is interesting. Have you two got anyone that kind of jumps out that we haven't mentioned? I think Fernando Alonso maybe deserves a little bit of a mention over the last few runs.

Yeah, he would be on there if he didn't have that kind of an uncharacteristic dip for Fernando. Big season blip, right? Yeah, he started off strongly. I think he lost a bit of interest. on the way, which is fair enough because he's old. Just forget where he is. Yeah. Why am I here? No, but I think just the car, he was doing, he was out driving that car for most of the beginning of the year. I think he obviously lost his way a bit on whatever set up or the upgrades that

Aston Martin brought. But he's been back on form very much, I guess since the summer break, you could say. And yeah, if he hadn't had that sort of lull, then I think he'd be in my, in a month Piazzi and Verstappar under Claire for me, but I think he's a fair shout. It's fair to say with Aston Martin, two Landstrols in the team, they're battling with R.B. and Hasse right now. And they're not. They're nowhere near battling those two teams because of the amount of points that Alonzo has accumulated, particularly early in the season when the car was a little bit better. But Fernando Alonzo is the reason that's not a fight, which I think he

deserves credit for. Yeah, I'm not going to reveal the places of where they are in my power rankings, but the drivers are 11 places apart. You've got to pay for that, folks. Yeah. That should taste it for free. You've actually one month trial. Do you think

Lando Norris could still win? I mean, we say this award, we're just creating it. It's not an actual. The LBs are coming up soon. The LBs are prestigious. Very fair point. Clives, I apologize, it is a fair award. He's crying in the cup. We're thawing

Clives out as we speak. Get him out. storage. Just needs a bit of de-frosting time on the art. New listeners, and I'll be like, what on earth is climes? You'll find out. You will find out at the end of the season.

But Lando Norris, Sam, what does he need to do in the last six races for you to be driver of the season? I think he's got a push for Stappen all the way to the end of this season. No bottles, no mistakes, no mucking up the first lap. He's got to be pretty much as perfect as can be

to mount this championship fight. You know what? If it gets to Drabba-dabee and he's won every single Grand Prix, but for Stappings finished second at the end of this season I'll put my hands up and I'll go that was mistakes are on the way

but you gave it a bloody good try especially how good Red Bull were to start the season and for me that would allow him to challenge for the very very top for driving the season I have been harsh on Landon Norris so far this season

and I think rightly so I do think he deserves the criticism but there's no shying away from the fact that that boy has immense pace he really is setting up a challenge against one of the greatest that we've seen and I do think that he's driving a sublime season

you just need to carry it through the last six Grand Prix. Tough to do under pressure, but I think, you know, I think there's some drivers that could do it. Let's see if Norris is one of those. Sam's Barthal and I know as being driver of the season is win every single race now. Six out of six, my God.

By the sounds of it, if he wins six out of six, he might just crack your top ten, Harry. This is, no, I'm being harsh. He's still got bored. He's on the bubble as well. We were doing three words, summaries last week. I'll do another one for you for free.

Generous. Do Singapore again basically. Just 24 times. He won't win the other Grand Prix though if he's at Singapore. Yeah. No, I just be as impressive. I know there were a couple of little mistakes in that one,

but be as impressive as he was in Singapore and he's definitely with a shout. You could do that a Coathe because the walls are three miles away from the side of the break. He can lock up and, yeah, do whatever you want, mate. You can break dancing competition on the track limits of that race track and no one will ever get near a wall. I randomly thought about,

don't we mention we going to Texas, I randomly thought about today, Lance Troll absolutely sending it on Daniel Ricardo while we were sat last year. We're the only three people that saw it. Yeah. What a move. Absolute send that was never shown.

I've seen live in person. It's never been on the telly. Yeah, Landon Norris. I think there have been some missed opportunities along the way and that will probably keep. him from at least winning the award in my eyes. Certainly, Monza you would look at and say,

Starno Paul, yeah, gotta seal that one, mate. But also, Monaco, just to look. I mean, Piastri was fighting LeClaire for the win that day. Norris wasn't able to pull out the same job in qualifying as Piastri, which is pretty much the only time all season that Piastri's actually been better than Norris in qualifying, was at a track where you really need to be better at qualifying. So, Norris is in the fight.

he's had some great results so far this year. Similar to Vestappen, I think Norris probably deserves more respect than what he gets for what he did at the beginning of this season when the car wasn't as good as it has been the second half of this season. I still think his Chinese Grand Prix second place

might be his best result of the year. There were a few like that towards the beginning of the year where the McLaren of now was not the McLaren of then, yet he was fighting where Piastri, quite frankly, That's the difference between the two drivers so far, really, is just how Norris started the season. So I give him credit for that. For me, it's between that Grand Prix in China and the Netherlands. I think he ran away in the Netherlands way more than I ever expected him to at that point of the season.

I don't know if the car had the outright dominance it has right this very second. It was still on that slope. And I think he drove sublime around the Netherlands. Okay, let us know who you think has been driver of the season so far and who could still win that, depending on what happens in the last six races. Do you agree with us? Should it just be Max Verstappen, full stop? Are some of these other contenders in the mix? Let us know. On the other side, though, we've done a lot of positivity towards the best drivers of the season so far. It's time to throw in some negativity because it's Alpine time. Oh, strap loop challenging. We're so back. Every podcast, I get a segment. Welcome back, everyone.

I mean, this news has been on the cusp, should we say. Brewing. Brewing. It has been brewing. It's been brewing whilst Clives has been defrosting. Renaud has confirmed it will not produce power units for Formula One under the new regulations set for 2026. As a result, Alpine is now searching for an engine support.

for that 2026 season with reports suggesting ongoing discussions with Mercedes to secure customer power units. Renault's F1 engine facility in Virichation will shift focus to developing on other technologies for the automotive group. This new engineering hub named Hypertech Alpine will launch later this year and take on multiple projects, though of course not F1. The team has previously assured that the changes at Vichation will not result in redundancies and reiterated this commitment in Monday's announcement. announcement. Alpine CEO, Philip Kraiv, described the transition as a turning point in the history of the very Chateon site, emphasizing that racing DNA, not wrong, emphasizing that racing DNA remains a cornerstone of the brand. Sam, I think we can probably move the discussion on from surprise at this stage. We have discussed this on the podcast a couple of times before. It has been brewing, as you say, but it is now official your reaction to that news. Yeah, firstly, I just want to say well down on that French pronunciation. Yes, thank God it wasn't. It would be a nightmare.

So I'm really glad that you read that out and not me because I think I'll call it fishing chips or something like that. It will be bad. Renaud, Alpine, the family, making a Formula One car where you are a manufacturer, not just a customer to me, a manufacturer without your own engines in them. It's like Cabri's chocolate, making the wrapper of a chocolate bar, but not making the chocolate itself.

it quite literally defeats the point of what you're trying to achieve. Why? Why? What's the point? What are you advertising now? What are you using your marketing for? What are you spending all this money for to grow and to develop? Who are you trying to incentivise to drive your cars, to buy your cars, to gain a favor of trust in the normal consumer, to build technology that you can put into your road cars? And I know that F1 isn't only about selling road cars or developing better technology for road cars. Sometimes it is just about going fast. Go Go fast, as like a McQueen once said. But you ain't doing that either. Even without the engine, even with another engine,

you still ain't going to be going fast because your car is draggy as hell. Slow as balls, as we like to say. So, no, I'm not surprised, but I am a cliche, very, very disappointed. This is genuinely gone in this direction. I can't fathom that removing your engine is and having to reshuffle the entire engine building, apartment into this high-tech combination unit and hope that they've got some interesting projects to work on is the direction that is rightful to go.

You've got some intelligent, brilliant people on your team. You don't seem to really know what the projects are working on. This high-tech unification is quite new, I think, in terms of the direction they're moving in. The only positive from this is we won't see redundancies. That is genuinely, I think, the only positive that you've assured these people that they will have employment after this decision. But why bother being in Formula One at all at this point? Why bother?

What are you gaining? I don't understand the point here. I'd rather you sell up to a team that is able to bring in a new engine supplier. God forbid we get one that applies. I'm not sure we've had one speaking about Formula One who wants to join anytime soon. But if you can maybe open that door, I genuinely think that more worth would be supplied to the likes of Formula One.

It's a baffling and bizarre decision. Baffling and bizarre. Harry, do you agree? I mean, yes, it's a good, lovely conclusion. The most Alpine thing about this, they've announced this, but haven't confirmed what engines they will be using. None, non-engines. Why, why bother?

They make them slower. Yes or no. No, no. Fred Flintstone, it all the way. Why, why, what's the, I know they got a bit of time, but there's not even like there's a plan, and this gets to my name. next point. It's done behind the scenes then.

Like, are they confident enough that Mercedes will happen that they can go, in which case, why not announce them at the same time? Exactly. Which sounds like they don't have it lined up. And that's stupid,

but it's Alpine. So, like, on brand, brother. On brand. So I don't understand that one because, yeah, he'd put on the car for a while, but there was no, under no,

they were under no, they were under, no pressure to say this officially. So why bother saying this now if they didn't have the next engine lined up? So that's bizarre and baffling, as you say, Sam. It does reek of the fact that there might be a, might be a sale of the team coming.

Like, A-WOL nation. Yeah. That is so, that is some niche, niche banter. Great song, though. But it does, it does wreak of that. And, you know, Flavio Brio toys been brought in. saw a lovely video of him in the factory the other day and everyone looked thrilled that he was there again.

Has he just been brought back to be the bad man in all this? Yeah, probably. And he doesn't care. Exactly. I've been a bad, I've been a worse man before. I'm doing it again. I'm a very bad boy. But all of this just reeks of they're getting ready to sell the team up.

And which, like you says, I don't think it's a bad thing, but just get on with it at this point because it's pathetic. What are you doing? it's what is the point what are you saying about your brand at the Alpine brand is not worthy of making an engine in F1 and I guess their argument will be

when McLaren our customer team and they're doing well but how long has that taken McLaren to get there so long but they've always been a customer team yeah I mean there was there was a point where they weren't with Honda and that went terribly so they went back to me a customer team

and that was in 2020 I think they got Mercedes engines, maybe 21? No, no, it's not my 2020, wasn't it? Yeah, 2020. Even then, McLaren was still technically a customer team because they're not making their own engines.

They've got McLaren making. No, I know. Well, yeah, exactly. So it's even more, it's even more. Anyway, I'm sure that comparison has been floating around to the exec's heads as a solid justification for this,

but I'll give you a pointer here. It's not, that's not the same. You're not the same as McLaren. So, yeah, this is. why are you bothering? Why bother him, Alpy? And if you're,

Pierre Gassley, you must be thinking, I should have stayed at Visa Cash App. Please send my contract to Andretti at once. Yeah, anyone. Howdy? Howdy, do you want me?

I got to Salba. I'll do anything. Yeah, it's just, yeah, I don't think it's not going to be the end for the team, and either way it goes, you know,

they'll be either sold or they'll carry on as a customer team, but it's just, what's the point in Alpine now? You have just made me realize why they are able to keep resigning Yuki Sunoda because the whole pitch of Red Bull

is just look at Daniel Riccardo and look at Pierre Gasley. They both regret it Yuki. Yeah. Great pitch. Yeah. To your point, Sam, I've gone far past

the point of anger at this just to the point of it's sad. It is genuinely sad. This isn't like, they haven't been around for two minutes, even though the Alpine name in Formula One is relatively new. Renno have been around in F1 since the 70s. Like, they have built themselves into, believe it or not, a credible name. They have been an important name in this sports history. They have won championships. And to see it, I'm going to say end like this, at least in its current form, to end like this is quite sad. And I think, and I think,

think there is an argument to say that Alpine have probably looked at what McLaren have done and gone, we can replicate that because McLaren there is a very good chance. They will become the first, let's face it, true customer team to win a Constructors' Championship since the days of Red Bull Renaud. Ironically, indeed. So you have to go back over 10 years for the last time that that happened. And they're probably just thinking in this era of F1 in a cost cap world, like maybe if we were to get rid of responsibility of the one thing that we suck at, which is engines, everything else might be great and we'll be fine. The problem is McLaren did that and it didn't work, at least not initially. I know McLaren are having success right about now, but as soon as they

got rid of Honda, it didn't all click. There were so many other things that needed to happen. before they could get back to the point of competitiveness. And I think Alpine might be in for a rude awakening that it's the same thing for them as well. They've argued over the last few years that they are at a disadvantage compared to the likes of, to all the other engine manufacturers

because when the engines were froze, they weren't on an even playing field with the others. And maybe so, but this move indicates to me that actually they just don't have the confidence in the building to deliver something good for, 26. And like I said, it's just for such a staple of F1, it's a bit sad. For Alpine long term, I don't know what there. I don't know what the plan is. I haven't got a clue. I'm confused

because there's almost three key examples you could look at in Formula One right now that almost shows periods of the journey that Alping actually need to go down. And it's not chucking the engine department out. It's not becoming a customer team. If they think that the engine is their only issue, they're for a rude awakening when they do sign someone else on. But they need to look at Williams, they need to look at Aston Martin, and they need to look at McLaren, who I think are the three periods of the journey that they need to go.

Williams are right at the start of that journey. You know, James Vouser's been in that wrong after what, 18 months, nearly 24 months at this point. And he has stripped back the entire personnel in that team. He's rebuilt it from the ground up. He's implementing his culture. He's seeing how he's brought in, Alboy is kept, signs he's signed.

Pat Fry's. now they're ironically taken from Alpine. So someone you had who was fantastic that's trusted by many, they are on the start of a journey and they are being clever with their developments. You look at Aston Martin. Astor Martin are delivering on brilliant developments in terms of their manufacturing, their infrastructure, their investment outside. They're going to getting someone like Adrian Newey and also sticking around.

The team that they're bringing in from outside is the best of the best. And then you look at McLaren who are almost at the end of that journey or the peak of that journey, where they have built this multifunctional department head system. They've got Stella who's promoted from within. Zat Brown is leading a brilliant marketing effort. They are putting trust in each key area of each part of the business. And they are delivering prime time results. I wrongly one of their drivers again.

What's yours? You had that asset. Multiple assets that these three teams are using came from you. So if you think that the only issue is your engine, then you need to sit back and look at what actually makes a successful sporting team. It's not just a thing that goes in the back and goes vroom, room. There's a lot more to it. And I think they're going to be very upset when they find out that a Mercedes engine

is not going to snap their fingers and make it all better. I just realized we made this joke, but it's not really a joke because it's gone true a few months ago, I think. But when things are going wrong for LP, they just don't know what to do. So they fire people and it's got to the stage now where they fired their engine. It rang out of human beings. Yeah.

No more humans left. The engine's got to go. be surprised the machines. Yeah, by the time we get to next year, they won't even have tires. They get to Alibaba.

They get so little attention. I'm not convinced they do have tires right now. I promised myself I wasn't going to laugh at this next sentence, but we'll see how it goes. They want to expand into the North American market in 2027. How they're doing that? Oh, man, that could be one for the ages. I don't understand.

what they're thinking is like the presence of being an F1 is worth something. But at that point, you have this Alpine brand, like it's been around for a while, but it was revived. You're trying to establish it. And the way you establish it is we're going to go into a new market, but we're not in Formula One, the biggest brand exercise in the world. We're not going to be running our cars with our engines. Would you like to buy one? No, I'll buy a Mercedes that has a Mercedes engine that you've decided. to use.

Yeah, and you compare that the fact that also, if they were winging with the Mercedes engine, you might go, okay, yeah, cool car, cool design, I can get on board with this,

but you're also ninth, right? The only team you're beating, as we've said, is an actual toaster. It's not a real car. I'm not convinced of Algeobotas

isn't running around with one of those Red Bull soapboxes and hoping that no one notices at this point. It's that bad. So you're beating, I don't know.

It's like Ian the cat making a race car. It's never going to be good, is it? So why would any consumer want to do this? Why now? It's like, have you ever built a strategy? And you've gone, okay, we need to set our KPIs and what's going to be one of the key performance indicators?

What's going to be our goal here? Sell more cars in North America. I thought they've just plucked it out of thin air. They've just decided that that sounds good. Stick it on the ting. I hope people go for it as a positive for share how long as to be happy, mainly because I think they've got celebrity investment

and they've gone. A lot of them are from the US and God we'd like to grow this market in the US. I think that's where it's come from. mismanaged, it's misdirectional, it's confused. I don't think they've got a clue. Of course the bad news is that, I don't know, the FIA, my NF1, might not like this news because, you know, Andretti,

not allowed in the sport because being a customer team, that would be, oh, that would be damaging to the brand and it would be doing more for the team than the team would be doing for F1. Anyway, you've had enough time helping. On the other side, oh God, Mohammed Benzilliam. On the other side, we've got comments from Mohammed. Ben Silliam. Oh, it gets better this show.

Come back, everyone. Earlier this year, the FIA introduced a new track limit solution at the Austrian Grand Prix, which seems to have solved a long-lasting problem at the Red Bull Ring and can potentially also be used at other circuits that are used by both F1 and MotoGP. When Autosport asked Mohamed Ben Suleim during an exclusive interview if he felt that the FIA has received enough credit for solving this particular problem, Ben Silliam replied, no, we will never get the credit. Impossible. We'll only get rubbish, that I know. He thinks that the FIA not only deserves more credit, but also deserves more on the financial side for all the investments

it has made. When you look at it, everybody made money out of the FIA. Everyone except the FIA. Everyone gets the credit except the FIA. Harry, you know, are we being a bit harsh on Ben Sully than the FIA? Are we the problem? No, it's the kids who are wrong. Should we just take it down a notch? Yeah, sure. Give him some credit.

Harry, give him some goddamn credit. What for? Track limit solution. One example that he has to give. The FIA, yes, probably do deserve some more credit for things they do in F1. think they're often invisible. I'm not saying they're without the flaws,

but they're invisible for some of the work they do, safety-wise. I'm not using the travel, but that's garbage, but safety-wise, some of the things they do, it goes unnoticed, and it's just sort of taken as read that,

that that's the way it is. And F-1 wouldn't run without the FIA. No other way to put it, it wouldn't run. And a lot of most sportsmen run without them. Having said that, shut up, Ben. not you, Ben, sorry.

We're back on this one again. Shut up, Ben, William. The reason why is because you keep saying stupid things. Stop saying dumb things and people will stop criticizing you. Also, I know I just gave a load of compliments to the FAA, but also it's a mess a lot of the time. Like, the stewarding's a mess. How they decide on penalties is an absolute shambles.

They're just making it up as they go along. It's like if we did it. And that's, there's no, no unfair criticism of the FIA. We don't want to criticize the FIA. We would like to not criticize the FIA. I mean, we'd have less to talk about, but also we would like, we'll take it. We'll take it because you drive us, particularly Ben Hockings, blood pressure, you drive it through the roof. So, yeah, it's not unfair criticism.

If you do things well, you get, you get compliments. and we will compliment you on things being done well. The problem is doesn't happen very often, and that's why we don't say it. So please, Ben, Sodyham, stop saying stupid things. I mean, it doesn't help the person. I miss Jean-Tott. Very much so.

I'm not saying he was perfect in charge of the FA, but he just got on with it and didn't open his mouth. Or if he did open his mouth, it was so unharmful and probably backed with fact that didn't matter whereas every time Ben Sillium says something

it makes me want to punch myself in the face one for you one for me one for you one for me do you know we need to step in

and do the role of FIA president Rob Marshall would have none of it Oh good old Rob Marshall scaffolding Be a quiet place

pick up Rob We are the Rob Marshall Stan Club over here I was going to say Should we just next episode, should we make it an FIA appreciation episode? Just to show Ben Silliam we care, you know.

For the avoidance of doubt, Mr. Ben Silliam, Lord Suleim, all hail. I give you credit for the Austrian Grand Prix. Well done. Because in 2023, we had 1,200 potential violations of track limits to look at the end of the Grand Prix, and there were eight post-race penalties. There was nothing like that this year.

due to your incredibly innovative solution of gravel. Which we all came up with two years ago. Gravel and AI, to be fair. And I don't want to... AI gravel. I don't want to burst this bubble. Like, I don't want to do unnecessary things to his cornflakes. Gravel's been around a while.

It's not new on the block. What Dennis is saying is front garden for... Years. Gravel, fun fact, older than me. Should we get you all of those timelines that they do on Twitter where it's like travel, beng, dinosaurs? It's where Ben Scyllium next year goes, we're going to make race circuits safer,

we're going to introduce catch fencing. Oh, God. You're having it here first, guys. Granted, your AI is a little bit more new than gravel. But even so, like middle 2024, still, isn't trailblazer category when it comes to AI. Like, it's not brand new. So I will give him some credit for the solution,

but also you were quite late to the party. To your point, Harry, there is a reason, and I think Spencer Liam fails to grasp this. If I, and I'm going to go into the Sam Sage box of analogies here, if I'm walking down a street and an old lady has dropped her shopping bag, and I pick up her shopping bag for her, that is a good deed. If my next action is then to hit her over the head with it,

that undoes the first thing. Reeks of Lily Allen, what you just said. Yeah, LDM. Fun fact. It's just, I don't think he understands. Like, you can't just, for example, he baselessly, or his organisation baselessly, went ahead and investigated soon

Lucy Wolf at the beginning of this year for a conflict of interest. And now he's standing here like, yeah, but track limits at Austria. It's like, no, the first action was bad and the second action was your job. So, you know, the bad thing is what people are rightfully going to focus on. If I can summarize this in one sentence, it would just be you do get credit for your wins. They're just smaller than your losses. That's kind of the FIA. Like, you do have your occasional wins, but then you just overwrite it.

every time with something monumentally stupid. So there you go, Mr Silliam. Sorry, Lord Silliam. Sam, what do you think? The FIA is a governing body. It is here to help and assist and allow these sports to grow. And that's all it should be doing. It is meant to be a silent organisation.

You're not meant to hear from the FIA. They got meant to be celebrity status. Ben Suleem should not be walking around, lauding himself over F1 drivers and being on the camera all the time and having his word at every single event, you should be silent, getting the job silently. Enforcing track limits correctly at a racetrack is quite literally your job. Do I expect extra praise for doing my actual job? No, it's what I get paid to do.

It's quite literally what I meant to do. It's in my job description. Running the FIA is part of policing, track limits, safety, all part of your job. So it isn't part of your job. Having women coming up to you and saying that, hey, a few years ago, you did something a bit controversial, actually I'm not very happy with it. Or taking Susie Wolfe to essentially the public lawyers, aka journalism and saying, oh, I think we need to investigate you.

Or maybe taking Lewis Hamilton to the public school of wearing jewellery in a race car. Or maybe saying that we can't speak negatively about skewers anymore because you can't have freedom of speech, even though it's all relatively fair, or actually comparing swearing a race car to rappers. Obviously, shut up. Do your job as you're paid to do. You pay a bloody fortune, a lot of you. So you think here we don't get enough money. Look at the real world.

See, the lot of us who'd better get paid a penny in comparison to you, multi-million air benzulium, and realize you are doing your job. It is your job to facilitate and allow these things to happen. You are not the show. You are not the star of the show. You should not be what we're talking about. The fact that you're even a topic again on this podcast

tells me you are not doing a good enough job. I should not be discussing you this often. I should talk about you once a year to say, oh, the FIA rang out a good year of the Formula One championship, didn't they? Brilliant. We'll move on. And that, you know, it tells me you've done your job perfectly. Never spoke about Jean-Tob this much, ever. I mean, I was 10.

But equally, never did. So, wind you neck in Ben, Silliam. Start doing your job quietly. And in a year's time, if I haven't mentioned you, I'll write a song about how much we think you're great. Clip that. Kirstie. It won't happen.

Come on. Hey, we've got the appreciation episode on Sunday, so that song will be a part of that. I won't be attending. We are really getting through the late break and great. greatest hits on today's episode because we've covered off alpene, we've covered off Mohammed Ben Suleum, which leads us nicely on to calendar chat, courtesy of Max Verstappen, because he has some comments on this. He said, I've always said it's quite a lot of races

that we have in the calendar, but I think for me, it's more just traveling with the time zone differences between Vegas and Qatar. You're flying almost the other side of the world again, which I think we can do a little bit of a better job if we do triple headers. They're a bit closer together. For me, that would make a bit more sense. So that's probably something that we should take a look at. Harry, it is a little bit odd how the calendars formed the second half of this season, isn't it? It is, if you look at how the rest of the season's formed, it's a bit strange.

I'm not against the people who are working F1, the good people who work in F1 and getting a bit of a break here. That is not a bad thing at all. and for people winging about the fact there's a long break, I've got one thing to say. Grow up. Didn't see how to come in. Yeah.

That's flawed me. However, I... Why not just make the season a bit shorter? If we can afford to have four-week gap. Less races? Have less races, for one. Or let's just squidge this up a little bit. And then everyone and F-1 gets a nice bigger break at the other end of the year

in the winter. This does seem a bit they've got better with the scheduling the past couple of years F1. Still not perfect, evidently. But especially when we still have the Las Vegas to Qatar

back to back. Oh, we do it. Within a week. Again, we've got four goddamn weeks to play with here. You could just shove everything up a bit and give everyone who works in F1 the opportunity not to have to fly from

Las Vegas. They have to be put, together because we've got no other races that take place in America or the Middle East. Sure. Exactly. Come on. Yeah. It's not like we're going to the US Grand Prix next.

No. Are we? Oh, we are. Yeah. Are we doing a show? We announced that. We should actually promote that. Next next episode.

Anyway. Yeah. So this is a bit silly. And again, this is not for argument. It's not for. you know, selfish reasons of, it's too long to wait for F1. I'm not that bothered about that.

It's just a silly way to schedule it. Why do we have another four week gap when we could give people more time either side of the, either side of the year, because F1 is so packed to the moment that it's not like they're going home and having a rest,

whereas at the end of the year, they can go home and have a rest. So, or at least more of a rest, I should say. So yeah, it's a bit of a silly one. I don't mind it from a fan point of view, but actually just from people who work in F1 there's a better way to schedule

at the end of this year. What do you think Sam? Yeah, I think the appeal that the staff has put out about having a four-week gap between Singapore and Cota is a fair one. We do have somewhat, it's been dubbed the autumn break,

which is a new concept, considering how long the season is, and how many races we've got. The fact that we've got another four-week gap is pretty impressive that they fit all of these growing freezing, and we've had a summer break, and we had quite a large break

in spring. I think it was a three-week gap between Grand Prix. And now we've got a four-week gap in between Singapore and Cota. So that is, I agree with him. It doesn't need to be a month-long break. I am, on the other hand, very much in favour of a two-week gap between continent changes. So if we are going to fly from Singapore to the Americas, I think a fortnight makes a long of sense. You get time to allow yourself to establish yourself within the time zone. You get to adapt properly. Your body gets to relax. The people who work in setting up and, you know, putting down, the whole grid area, which is a lot of work, and it's very tiring. They get time to actually relax into it and allow themselves maybe an extra day or two

to really settle into things. It feels safer, healthier for everyone involved. But as Harry's already mentioned, there's enough weeks that are empty that you can squeeze things up just a little bit here and there. Then we get a fortnight break, got a four-week break, which just feels really quite bizarre. The season could overall be shorter. I do think we're letting this run on a little bit too late in the year for no real reason.

as we all agree, the Qatar, Las Vegas jump is just stupid. Genuinely, stupid. They have been better at scheduling. We are having a better at having consangential seasons, basically, continental championships where we have a bit of a spat in Asia and then we pop over to Europe and then we fly off to the Americas and we come back to the Middle East. Japan is an example of that.

Right, that's a great example. The fact we've got, you know, Australia, Japan and China, all grouped very closely together. Yeah, makes a lot of sense. We've been saying it for years, makes a lot of sense. So having no Saudi right at the start along at Zbarang, etc. But why not have Qatar and Abu Dhabi, right? Singapore is actually quite close to that region.

Baku is quite close to that region. But then we'll do the start of the season. There's way more that can be done. It's a step in the right direction. But I do think that we need to have less time between, you know, for example, Singapore and Austin. And a little bit more time between Las Vegas and Qatar. I just think those gaps could be rearranged better across the season to allow people a healthy break. But also keep us interested.

Keep us seeing racing more frequently. Yeah, it's an odd end to the season because we've got like, from the summer break to the end of the year, it's like three week summer break, double header, one week break, double header, this three week break that we're in now, triple header, two week break, triple header. There's sprite races as well.

Oh, yeah, so they're a very good point. There are a number of spin races as well involved in those. And I feel like we had a point where it was the norm to basically have race weekend, non-race weekend, race weekend. So you've got like a one week break in between race. We've only got that once in the second half of this season. It's become something of a rarity. Vastappen's absolutely right on this in the Las Vegas to Qatar transition is the most stupid one out there. Good news. That's not going anywhere next year either. That's in the

calendar for 2025. I think 2025 does look a little bit more sensible in that we don't have such a long gap as we do now next year. It's one week short. but there's still a few things that don't make sense, particularly, you know, if you were to push Las Vegas back, and I know it's not as simple as this, because Las Vegas probably isn't just available to be used as an F-1 track whenever you want. I think they're gagging for business, Mike. No one's ever there. Sure.

Let's shut Las Vegas back a week, because at that point, next year you would have like a double header of USA and Mexico. Brazil's not as part of a triple header next year, it is this year. You would then have a double header of Brazil. and Las Vegas, and then you would have a double header of Qatar and Abu Dhabi. That feels like it makes more sense than for whatever reason. I know you've got technically the extra day with Las Vegas being a Saturday night race,

but it's a brutal end to the year. So like I say, 2025 is not going to be solved, but hopefully at some point in the not too distant future, it will be sorted out. We shall see. Come on, FIA. We shall see. We've got our game segment coming up.

right after this final break. Can I ask a question before we go on break? Yeah. You've not once mentioned what game we're playing and on the schedule, it just says, quiz. I have been waiting for this all day. I don't get excited, mate.

It's not that good. Oh, okay. All right, fine. Sorry, listeners. Something a bit different. It's not one of our normal games. I thought I'd give something a try. Full disclosure.

It's a good chance. This is rubbish. But, you know, have you made a jingle? Draw this rinks of F1 Alphabeti. Hey, don't talk rubbish about F1 Alphabeti. There are at least two people on Patreon that love F1 Alphabeti. I love measuring driver's knees.

No, it's a numbers-orientated game, but don't be scared by that. I'm terrified. If you are able to, chaps, can you note down these 10 numbers? Oh, God, no, okay, hold on. Oh, you actually, all right, hang on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay. Yeah, okay.

Okay, these are your numbers, just to write down now. Eight, nine, nine, 19. I'm not going to say, if you say ten, I swear to God, okay. 24. Is this bingo? Yes, it is. I've tried to hide it for as long as possible. 27, 28, 31,

Bangs lottery numbers. 47, 88, and 99. Okay. Sweet. It's a great game. I enjoyed that, Ben. Right. Anyway, that's actually the question of the week.

You now have to read them back. And whoever's got one wrong, loses. The quiz here, you're going to take it in turns, and you are going to pick whichever number you feel most confident about by telling me what driver races or raced under that number, 2014 onwards. This might be my favourite. game of all time.

I'm going to instantly lose this. Okay. So what do we need to do? Well, we'll start with, you can go first, Harry. Okay. You pick whichever number you feel most confident about and tell me

which driver is currently racing or has raced under that number. 99. Who have you got? Robert Kibitzer? That's a great start, mate. No. Oh, man.

I'm sure. I literally watched the 2021 Italian GP the weekend and the Kibbutz had 99 because he replaced Reikening. Sam, you can have a go. Can I ever go at that one? Sure.

It's Giovannazzi. Have you found like a snag in the game, Harry? Well, like he used an FP1 session and used Germanasi's car. Because that's really disgusting if you've done. Hang on a second. Harry's right. Hang on.

I'm going to Google it. I'm just writing all my names down of the ones I can guess. He didn't race with the 99, like. Oh, no, he raced with the 88. Well, I can't possibly think what hint that gives away from the next one. Sam, what number would you like to pick? I'll pick number eight. If he said 88 then.

You've got an easy one next time if you want it, Harry. Number eight, who've you got? Grojean? Grojan's correct. Yes, Grojon raced with the number eight. I should have also mentioned with the 99 number, you said, Javanazzi. Do you remember who the other driver was of the 99?

Soutil. It was. Adrian Sotil. Well done. Could have said that. Oh, yeah, what's the rules on this? Is it the most recent? Is it?

No, there are a few that two have raced under the same number, in which case you can give either of them. Some of them have only had just one, though. Grosjon is the only one who's raced under the number eight. Harry, do you want to have another guy? 88. Sound bad. Can you name the other one?

More difficult. No, I don't know. No idea. Any idea, son? Oh, it's... How are we scoring points here? Just if we can name a driver. I don't know, mate.

I might win this. You can actually pay attention. Sam, you win, yeah, fine. Thank God. Some guy keeps count how many games I lose. I need to step up. That's a fair point.

He sends me a message every time. You suck. The other 88 driver, none other than Indonesia's greatest driver of all time. Rio Haryanto. Rio Haryanto. The sofa.

What number do you want to try next, Sam? 24. And I think that's Joe. It is Joe Guan Yu, yes. There's a lot of drivers in the sort of 20s, and I always forget which order they go in. So well, then. Harry.

47. No, it's not Robert Kibitsa. Mick Schumacher? Yeah, that's correct. 47 was driven by Mick Schumacher. I actually don't know the answer to this question I'm about to ask. Do you remember why? There is a reason, and I can't think what it is.

He chose the 47. I don't know. Is it a carting number? I actually don't know. No, it's because seven was for his titles, his dad's titles. And four is something really blasé, like it's his favourite number. And he couldn't have four because Lando had four or something like that. He was.

Maybe he was, I don't know, maybe he was, I'm going to feel like four was a thing for him. Maybe it was four before that. I don't know, anyway. Anyway, yes, that is correct. Sam, back to you. I'll have 27. Who have you got for 27? Is that Hulk?

It is the Hulk. and he's the only driver that's raised under that number. You got four numbers left, Harry. I've just done the most hilarious thing on my list. So I've got all the numbers, and I've got all the drivers, so I think it is, and I'm writing in brackets,

if I get them correct next to it. And in brackets, I haven't gotten to Hulk, I've just written Hulk. Is it correct? You've got Hulk points. Hulk brackets, Hulk. I don't think I know anymore.

I'll be real. How many left? Four numbers left. Okay. A bit more ordering. to this game next time, please, Ben. I don't want to play this game again. I don't know.

I'll bail on the rest. Sam, can you run through the other four? Nine, I think, was Erickson. It was. There was one other driver under the nine as well? More recent or less recent? More recent. No, I don't know.

Nikita Mazbin. Ah, that'll be why, I don't know. Never saw his car. Didn't see him very often. Never saw the car. ball. Massa. 19, yeah. 28, you've got two options for 28,

neither of which are very obvious. Yeah, the only reason I know this is because it's Harry's favorite driver. Ah. That's, I think it'll be annoyed that he hasn't got this. What, 28? Yeah. Brenda. Got yourself a Brendan Arley fan.

I think he's Brendan Hartley. The other one. Too busy to leave him alone. He's baking out for Ocon. So, yes, the 31 is. Oh, sorry. The other one out. 28.

No idea. Grumpiest man of all time. Will Stevens? Will. That is a lucky number, 28. Hartley and Stevens. Ooh, they weren't far. They did.

Sam won by 9 to 0, I think. The only thing I'm good at is driver numbers. The only thing I can remember. How was that nil? I just disqualified you after the first answer. Oh, man. I love that game, Ben. I sense that will make an immediate comeback.

Sam will petition for it. They'll rally the troops. That's coming back. No name quiz. I didn't even give it a net. I didn't forget how much of a future. So I'm like, I'm not even going to give it a name. Yeah.

Race to the, I don't know, come up with a name in the comments. Harry, I've got some good news for you, mate. Do you? What is the good news? Because I've got a segment for you. For just me? For just you. And it's far big.

than that last segment we did. And it turns out it's also Admiral Agbar's favorite segment. I forgot that happened. I am of course referring to the greatest segment. In all of podcasting, it is the... I'll be question of the week. It's a week. I re-listened to the episode and honestly,

it's a question of the week. Sent me like three times. I had to listen to it. It's a question. Oh, that's so good. It was Max Verstappen's birthday two days ago as you're listening to this on Monday. And we asked the question,

what did Red Bull get him for his birthday? What do you get the man that has everything? Why? I can't read out. No, you can't. Actually can't read out. But that's made me laugh. So well done to that person. Someone out here has said,

a hat's deli shop I mean that's advertising for you so well done you has said a lovely evening of dinner, dancing and banter with Mohammed Begsoilium I'm sure he

wouldn't get any credit for her though would he? I'll talk about for a lovely meal that's what you should be doing that'll be me on the podcast so so I immediately now go to the hidden by Instagram or at least for my one

some Blake I don't know why this is hidden because it's excellent Blake has said a canoli and a ticket to the late breaking live show in Austin with free parking. Oh, the parking is free.

Free parking? Free parking? Free parking? Free parking? Free! Go on. Hang we ever listeners. Good, me.

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There are not many. broadcast of all ones. New sir. And Bridger said pinto beans. Cheers. This one's Savage from Saser Salad.

A 711 gift card so they get some Yoss abandoning him's there. He can't let's get some nachos. Oh man. Bloody for that. Oh.

So bad of you, Yoss, honestly. Worley Bart and Cars 2 on DVD. Thank you, Alex. That's an excellent. That is a lot of. That's a two. Cars 2?

Most people don't have it, so don't get Cars 1. Everyone's got Cars 1. Why would you want Cars 2? Cars 2 is so much worse than Cars. One of my favourite life moments is sleeping in a car's bed at Disneyland. And here life is a highway every three minutes. It was the best day of my life. Really like this one from Myra, the cat named GP.

Sure. Which I think is great. The one that made me laugh the most was from Joe Burke, who just said, hope. Please. Please hope. A botas calendar from Gary. Sam has already got one in isn't he?

It's great. I'll share it. Pined a lager from Alicia. I would like a pint of lager. Yeah. Nice and simple. Kiviat's new puppy. Oh no.

Poor Danny. forget. You're so horrible, the lot of you. Yeah, I probably should have seen this coming when I put this together. I'm going to hold my hands up. This is on me. Yeah, that's on you, mate. Some of these are terrible.

Yeah, I'll stay away from anything. Mustafa and Christian Horner. There's too many about petrol stations as well. Seb Cuffin, a shuttlebuster picking up from petrol stations. Come on. A rubber ring. so he can keep the team afloat for the rest of the season. Nice.

Very good, Rob. That's politically okay to say on the podcast, so well done. We found one then. Yeah, to be honest, there's quite a few comments here that we just can't say, so that's excellent. Have we said Misty's favourite, the doppelganger? No. Where's that?

A doppelganger to do his community service for him. Nice. Yeah. A smart idea of that. there's a lot of a new car comments which I quite like I don't think we've ever got

a Bob Barker mention in our comments like the buses are yeah they're everywhere now pick up Bob Barker pick up the Barker whof

wuff that's never been said on any podcast ever is that that's a new catchphrase pick up the barker whoof We've already gone through our barking phase

of this podcast. We're not doing another one. Anyway. Oh my God. Webb Smith said an otter in late breaking merch. If I want to make that happen, I will have a great time. I like that.

Make an end. Honestly, like an otter is the most innocent way we're going to end this segment. So I think we do stop it there. Thank you very much to everyone who did comment on Instagram and on Twitter. To those of you that could be broadcast, and to those of you that definitely couldn't be.

The rest of you, you're wrong ones. You know what you did. Yeah. Thanks, Harry. We'll be back with another one next week. And of course, in two weeks' time, we're going to be in Austin if we hadn't mentioned it already. So I'm sure there'll be something Austin-themed question of the week

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