The Lazy Genius Podcast - #106 - The Lazy Sisters Bonus Episode

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

Have you ever wondered how you can support The Lazy Genius Collective and this podcast? You can become a Patreon supporter, and as a thank you, you get a (really long) monthly episode of The Lazy Sisters Podcast, a show that Kendra does with her little sister, Hannah. It's fun, ridiculous, and the unedited Kendra if you were ever curious about that. Here's a bonus episode of the most recent Lazy Sisters Podcast. If you ever want to hear more or just want to say thank you for The Lazy Genius Podcast, head to Patreon to become a supporter. Thanks and enjoy! This podcast is hosted by Kendra Adachi and executive produced by Kendra Adachi, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi, everybody. You're listening to The Lazy Genius Podcast. I'm Kendra, and I'm here to help me be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. So this episode is going to be super different in that it's not actually an episode of the Lazy Genius podcast. It is an episode of my secret show with my dear little sister called The Lazy Sister Podcast. And it is available for people who are supporters on the $3 level on Patreon. I just wanted to give you a chance to listen to us being fools. It's so fun. This is not a mistake that it's as long as your podcast app is saying. Yeah, we talk a really long time about everything and nothing and it's the best. So hopefully you will enjoy it. It is spring break for me. And so this is just a really great chance for me to still enjoy time with my family, but you still get a new episode. That's about 17 times longer than usual. I will be back next week with a three-week series, you guys, legit three-week series. I'm working on it now about food in a bowl.

We're going to be talking about food in a bowl. It's going to be so exciting. But for now, here is the Lazy Sisters podcast. I'm Kendra the Big Sister. And I'm Hannah, the Little Sister. You're listening to the Lazy Sisters podcast. Real-life Sisters keeping you from real bad choices. I love how sometimes when I say podcast, I get really set.

Podcast. I don't know what accent comes. In the Midwest? Maybe. I get those all confused. No offense to anyone living in the Midwest. It wasn't an offensive statement. It just, I don't know the differentiation of accents.

I just feel like I'm going blind. What does it have to do with accent? No, it's just, it's been happening a lot recently. I looked down, like I was just looking down at our Patreon page and everything was buzzy, blurry. That's not a word. It is a word It's just not the right one

It was all blurry And then when I was looking at your computer Because we were having technical difficulties earlier It was all It was like what's that What's that two pronged instrument Up at the top of the crop? You wear glasses though

I know I feel like Do you need a new prescription? Well these are old glasses Oh that might be your problem But they said my prescription wasn't that different And it's up close and I am far. Never know the difference.

Near-sighted. No, I'm near-sided because I can see things close up. I can't see things far away, right? I don't know the difference. I don't know. I mean, I know there's one and one. I just don't know which one goes with which one. Okay, well, I can see things.

I can't see things far away. I can't see things near. Now I can't see anything near. You can't be anything at all. It's all buzzy. So that's why I said I think I'm going buzzy blind. Sorry for that. It just took me by surprise.

I looked down and I could. and see the words. I can see how that would be surprising. All right. She's squinting at her phone. She's pulling him down on her nose. Oh, oh no. Am I going to need progressive?

I can see it now. You can see it now? You really look like an 80-year-old librarian. Oh, dear. Like pulling her glasses down on her nose up and down, like which where can I see this right now? Okay. Okay.

You guys are in for a treat. Trust us. You're in for a treat because Hannah walked into our cool recording studio, which is someone else's living room with a mason jar of an amber liquid. It's called bourbon. Right. And you said that this is the bourbon you have wanted me to try. Yes. This was my push present, even though I didn't push my.

baby out. How do you feel about that term push present? I think it's a little weird but I like it. I like the concept. I like the concept. I think the name is problematic. Push present. Yes. I got a push present. I feel like the push present is maybe your baby. But I don't know. I'll go with bourbon too. Anyways, Luke always buys me a bottle of bourbon. Like a really nice bottle of bourbon. Okay. For, you know. Having a baby. Having a baby. That's what I'm trying to say right this is what i would like for you to try live on air okay i've never you guys i've never tried bourbon before much less like legit straight from a from a vessel yeah this is not the vessel that i would ideally like you to drink from i'd love for you to drink from you know like a my glen caret nosing class but it's fine it's okay see what you're drinking i don't know what you're going to drink is is Angel's Envy.

That's the name of the bourbon. That's the name of the bourbon. Okay. But this is a, but it's a rye whiskey. I don't like rye bread. Will I like rye whiskey? I think you just need to try it.

It doesn't taste like bread. Well, I mean, I'd like bread. I know, but I'm saying it doesn't taste like rye bread. Okay, cool. So it's rye whiskey. Okay. Aged in Caribbean rum barrels. Okay.

So it's a very, it's a specialty. It's like a special offshoot. It feels like it's a hybrid if it's bourbon aged in rum barrels. It's not a hybrid. It just adds to the overall flavor. I think that this, it's very vanilla forward. I called it warm vanilla sex earlier. You did say that.

Just to be frank. I'm just, anything that's anything forward? Then it's flavor. Okay, should I smell it first? You need to smell it as you're sipping it. I don't know if I'm able to do that. Swishing around the glass. Okay, I'm switching.

Swishing around the glass. Now smell it. Capture the nose. Capture the nose. Oh, that smells really good. Yeah, okay. Now. You know what that smells like?

You know what that smells like? Those peach buckets I made. So long ago. It was Pillsbury. It was Pillsbury biscuit dough with peaches and cinnamon. This is a hundred. dollar peach biscuit. Okay.

Okay. So taste it. Okay. Okay. And just kind of let it go across. Now open up your mouth. Get the air in. You get some air in your mouth.

What thoughts? It's, I've always wanted to have, I've always wanted to have the sensation of that office episode when Michael Dreece. And David Wallace's house. He asks for Splenda. Just some ice. A few packets of splendor. No, I, the warming is happening now.

You know, I kind of forgot for a second. You don't do alcohol. No, I won't, you're going to have to drive me home. I just realized this. You took a literal, maybe quarter of a teaspoon. Yeah. Sip. This episode is going to be so fun.

You're probably lit by now. You guys, I have no tolerance. None. I can hold caffeine like a champ, but alcohol flattens me like nothing. I mean. She'll have a glass of wine and she's like, you're seeing buzzy. I am very buzzy or blurry or both. No, that tastes.

Yeah, that's nice. I can see why people would enjoy sitting around and drinking that. Yeah. Well, I certainly do. As I'm very glad. I'm very glad that you do. I learned, you know, we've talked about this on the podcast and off. I just, I'm just not as much of a beverage person.

Like it's not a, I don't get pleasure. I'm not going to finish this. I think that's wise. I think that's wise. I'm still going to make you a couple different types of mixed drinks. I think I like, yes. No, I do like that. That's nice.

Now, I wouldn't spend, I would rather buy. a new mixer blade for my kitchen aid. Of course. But I really, I appreciate. But it's nice to know. Yes, it's nice to know that I don't hate bourbon. And I can always share my bourbon. Yes.

No, it's quite, it's quite nice. Yes, it's nice. I do want a peach bucket now, though. Those peach buckets, the peach buckets are delicious. Why am I saying things twice in a row? They are, are. You have a lot more bourbon than I did.

Oh, this. I was going to say. It just doesn't touch. As it came out of my mouth, you could drink a lot and be just fine. No, I, do you remember the story about the peach buckets? Fagley. So I created the peach buckets to enter into the Pillsbury Bakeoff. That one million dollar annual thing that they always show on the food network.

Yeah. There's always spinach and like filo dough in one of the winners, like all the time. So you have to use some sort of Pillsbury product and turn it into something. and you enter in a certain category or whatever. And so I made these peach buckets then. I developed those puppies. I made so many versions of those. But it was basically like I tried like several different of the Pillsbury biscuits.

You've got like home style. Am I going to burp a lot with this? Because I feel things happening. I mean, yeah, probably. Okay. I did also eat a really big piece of orange cream pie before you got here. Yeah. Just I mean, I've definitely been burping.

I just kind of move it, move my mouth to the side, you know? like off the microphone yeah as I as I say this to somebody who who has two podcasts that they host no I only have I mean I have this one yes I have this one and the other one and your other one yes this is true um I'm such a professional in both obviously no so I made these peach buckets it was the biscuits with it was peaches and like I feel like there was like pecans maybe butter I might have put a little of rum in them I think I might have ended up I feel like there was there was some type of boozy element to it and there was vanilla in it and cinnamon and you know like and you and you make this like filling and then you put it in the bucket in the you put the I didn't explain the bucket part

you take the biscuits and you push them into muffin tins and then you put the peach filling in it and then you bake it and then they make little peach buckets and they were delight such a delight So do you, did you know I didn't actually enter those into the Pillsbury, Baker? Did you know that? I did not. Because I'm an idiot, possibly a self-sabotager, definitely a strong anagram one. And I panicked when it was time to enter. Uh-huh.

I submitted a recipe that I never made. I was like, I don't think this is going to win. Let me see if I can come up with something really fast and typed it into the application. I didn't actually submit a recipe. that I had tried, 17,000 times. So those peach buckets could have won. They were never actually considered. I think you should do that.

Did they still do it? I'm sure they still do it. You should enter them and see what happens. I think I have bet, well, you know, you are limited by the scope of the Pillsbury product. I am your real life sister, keeping you from this real bad choice of not entering those peach buckets. You need to enter those D.

beach buckets. Well, if anybody wants to find out when the next, because they don't, they're really like, at least 10 years ago when they did this. They were really like closed mouth about when the application process was open. Like you couldn't get a notification. You had to just like obsessively check the website every week or so to see if they were like, okay, you can enter.

I was like the whole thing. So anyway. But yeah, that bourbon smelled like a peach bucket. It was nice. Took me down memory lane. I'm glad. Yeah. Okay, so.

I was just wait, wait, waiting for that. I had. It might have been the bourbon. My brain literally shut off. Like it felt like, like it went dark for a minute. Yeah. That was really strange.

It looked really strange. It's rare that you space. I am. not a spacer. You're not a spacer. I'm anti-spacing. Like I'm, what's the opposite of space? Me. No. No. No. No. I met like, I'm the space. What's the opposite of you? That's what I bet. I was just like, like, uh, like, I'm laser focused like all the time. That was really weird. All the time. Okay. I think that was the first. Well, you don't have to say it quite like that. Well, sorry. No, it's just really, really surprised. Yeah, that was very strange. It was unexperienced.

expected for you to not be laser focused. Yeah, that was weird. I do want to make sure that everyone, that we keep everyone from making the bad choice of not ordering the following drink at Starbucks. Have you done Bree's coffee yet? Oh yeah. You probably got it before Bree talked about it. You seem like you know these things before everyone else does. I had a variation.

What was your variation? Oh, first we'll say what Breeze is. If you've seen, I've been talking about on Instagram, following on Instagram, Brie is taking the world bus store. First Laura Tremaine had her sweatshirt cult and now Brie has got her Starbucks. Did you get that sweatshirt by the way? I did not get that sweatshirt. I didn't either.

I thought about it. I don't like to walk in the Walmart if I can't help it. Right. And that was like, is it worth it? Is it worth it? I know. To wear a sweatshirt that everyone else has and my foreness was like, um, no.

No, I'm not going to buy that. No, I did not buy it. I did think about it, but I did not buy it. It was very cute. It was super cute. I was kind of in a like a like a like a closet like a Marie condo situation where I'm like I'm not going to add anything else to my closet unless I'm incredibly obsessed and I get rid of something else. Yeah. I'm kind of in that space as well.

And so I you know, I'm really self-righteous about it. No, I'm not. Okay. It's a grande. Starbucks. Starbucks. Now you can't say double shot because that's something different. You have to say Starbucks Starbucks.

You have to Starbucks Starbucks. Starbucks. Starbucks. Starbucks. The drug lady. Sterebex double shot. One classic pump. Yes.

Because it comes with three. Yeah, it comes with three. I can't imagine drinking that drink with three pumps of syrup. Yeah. So you have one one classic pump substitute heavy cream for 2% milk. And I tried. And it actually, I think it comes with, I think the standard is whole milk because I check my Starbucks app. Maybe it's not.

Maybe it is 2%. But regardless of what it is, it needs to be heavy cream. I tried it with whole milk. I tried it with like all the, no. It has to be heavy cream. It's because it's wasteful. otherwise like it just doesn't just doesn't do anything see and what I have gotten in the past was a grande Starbucks double shot with one pump syrup classic or flavor no just um classic

just the simple syrup but I did I think I did I think I just did um one pump of it still but I think the heavy creed made such a difference it makes such a a huge difference because I just did the regular milk. Like I didn't change the milk part. Okay. But I usually always take my pumps down. That sounds weird. Oh, so you're saying you got it,

but the change that you made was you lowered the pumps. Yes. So I had done that before Bree took the world by storm. Yes. And I was like, oh, I don't like this. Starbucks or a night. That's not. Whatever. But then when she

You add heavy cream, yeah. I mean, it made a huge difference. And when she said that, I was like, oh, there it is. There it is. I know this is going to be fantastic. And it really is. It's a great drink. It is iced, just so you know, so you're not confused.

It is an iced drink. You don't have to ask for it iced because that's the way it's served. I also like it because it's very quick. It's a very quick drink. Yeah. So if you want an experience, like if you go to Starbucks because you want to, you know. Yes. You want a savor.

But if you need. You need a literal shot. I need an actual shot of caffeine. It's not going to. make me, you know, spit it out immediately. Right. Because Starbucks coffee is just burnt tasting. Anyway.

For new listeners, Hannah is a coffee snub. I'm really not. You, okay. Lucas. You buy marriage. You just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, insulted.

A high percentage of people's morning coffee. Now, granted. But guess what? If they had Luke's coffee, they would agree with you. Exactly. But they haven't yet. You can't tell it's burnt. You can't tell.

Because you have so much sugar and cream in it. They have to put a lot. The whole point of coffee is that you don't have to have that stuff when it's brewed correctly, guys. You don't need cream. You don't need sugar. You can taste the fact that it was brewed with strawberries or whatever, roasted with strawberries. She's not. She's not enough.

I'm not a smile. Even though Luke was like, do you taste the shortbread in this? And I was like, I love you, but you are an idiot. No, I don't taste the short bread in this. He's like, do you taste the blueberry pancake? He asked me that one time. How does someone put blueberry pancake flavor in coffee? He says, I trust him with my life.

He made the best cup of coffee I've ever had for me. When he says, do you taste the blueberry pancake? I know he's not blowing smoke up my butt. Right. right right well he he tastes the blueberry pancake he tastes it i and so i'm not going to argue with him but i look at him i'm like no i don't taste a stupid blueberry pancake right i don't get this when i taste the coffee that's true it tastes like coffee to me but i did drink yeah i don't i can't drink black coffee unless luke makes it and it's and it's so good he knows what he's doing it's true but regardless

grande Starbucks double shot not double shot Starbucks double shot it's like its name it's It's common name. That means it's three shots of espresso, FYI. Right. So it's a lot of caffeine. Yeah, it's a big hit. You don't want to drink it. But also because it's, I realize I don't want it to be my morning coffee.

Like my first thing in the morning coffee because I like the experience in the morning. But if it's like, oh, I'm, I got a long day and it's before like two o'clock. Yep. There you go. Exactly. It's a perfect time. It is the perfect time. It is a quick.

It's like a jolt. It's like a. it's like a I don't feel like a drug reference is really helpful right now when is it ever this is fair point moving on

so um should I do should I do Whole 30 here's why I ask I was listening to simplify the podcast to simplify okay

you ever listen to that podcast? I have not okay it is a podcast that is put on by um have you heard of blinkist where they take nonfiction books and they distill they like distill them down into like 15 minutes of content like the most important thing i know it's pretty great so that you don't have to like read a bunch of nonfiction books you just read the blinkest it's cliff notes it's cliff notes for nonfiction books okay yes they take all the main points but the people over there are like really smart and thoughtful about it and all the things i don't i've never used i've

never done a blinkist book but the blinkest people have a podcast called simplify where they interview the non-fiction books that they are doing. Okay. So she was interviewing. Caitlin, what's her face, was interviewing the author of The Whole 30. Also, I did not realize it was The Whole 30, like the Ohio State. Yeah. It was very intense.

Melissa Hartwig. Is that her name? Yeah. That sounds right. Yes. That's right. Melissa Hartwig. Yes.

So it was The Whole 30, the Whole 30. And I kind of knew, like, sort of conceptually, like, the Whole 30 is not. You know, it's not meant to be a diet. It's not meant to be a reset for you to see. It's how you find your food freedom. Yes. It's how you find your food freedom to find out what makes you feel bad and what makes you feel good and all the things. And so you get to decide that, which I always like when we give people freedom to decide for themselves.

Absolutely. It makes me very happy. So, but I don't know if what I would benefit, the benefits, I don't, the cost benefit analysis. I don't think I use that right. we're going to pretend like I did. I didn't, I don't have an MBA. I don't, like, I would love to know what foods don't make me feel great. Yes.

Because there are a lot of times I don't feel super great. Yes. And it started like in my mid-30s. Yes. And it has been that way for the last three or four years. Yes. And so I feel like it would probably be like maybe a good idea, but it just feels like, like a lot with all of my children and like having to cook my own things.

Yes. And it just feels really stressful. Although isn't Change Your Life Chicken the Whole 30 compliant? It sure is. Which is very helpful. Depending on the vegetables you use. Yeah. Okay.

So anyway, this, you need to keep me from bad choices or encourage me to make good ones. Even if you say I should do it, that doesn't mean I necessarily going to. But if you tell me I'm, I shouldn't. that I won't because I don't really want to but I wonder if it would be a good idea it's a terrible idea is it really a terrible idea and here's why tell me why I'm so excited because I didn't want to give up anything

no here's why okay now I am not saying by saying this is a terrible idea that whole 30 is bad I have personally done a whole 30 twice yeah that's why I'm asking really benefited from it absolutely but here's the thing here's why it's a terrible idea for you Okay. Let's think about what's happening in your life right now. Let's think about it. Oh, wait, all the things. All the things are happening in your life right now. You are writing a book. I don't want to start it tomorrow. Yeah. You don't need to start this. Yes. In 2019. This is an excellent question. And I appreciate the nuance with which you are answering the question. Because you are right. I did think like, oh, I can't do this now. This is ridiculous. I'm not going to. I have to finish this book first. But I did think like, Maybe in the summer, like when Kaz is home and there's a little bit more like help or because here's what I thought. Here's what I thought. I'm seeing, you know, I have friends who write books, right?

And they launch big things and they record 70,000 podcast interviews in four hours. Yes. And it's a, it is a, when you are trying to newsflash, you guys, when you get a book published, you have to get people to get it. The publisher doesn't do that. Yeah. And so I'm seeing my friends like work their little adorable A's off trying to get their books bought. They're really awesome book spot. And I just sort of see like I want to be at like peak physical condition.

Yes. When I hit my own gauntlet. Yeah. And so when I heard this interview with Melissa Hartwig, Hartwig, I wondered like, oh, I wonder if this is a good tool for me to use. But then I was like reverse engineering. like how long, I know you need 30. You got to do it for the 30. Yep.

But then you have to add things in like slowly. And I didn't know what that process was like. Right. And so anyway, I'm just as a... Well, okay. Let's say you were not in the middle of doing all the things right now. There's so many things right now. I would still say no for you.

Okay. Tell me why. Because you know what makes you feel bad. I do? Yes. What makes me... Tell me. What makes me feel bad?

What makes me feel bad? Sugar makes you feel bad. Sometimes. Not all the time. Well, okay. Sugary, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar. Okay. Dairy.

Yeah. Tends to make you feel bad. I did give up dairy when I was nursing Annie because she had really bad gas. Yes. And I felt a lot different. And when you give up sugar, you feel amazing. When have I ever given up sugar and felt amazing? It happened.

It was like, it was like a two-week span and you felt great. Maybe I felt great, but I also wanted to murder 70,000 freaking people. Exactly, which is why I think cold 30 would be a terrible idea for you. Yeah, I don't want to tell anyone. You're cutting out everything. You're cutting out butter. You're cutting out your livelihood. I am.

Yes, I am. I mean, it would be. And here's the thing. I think that generally, speaking, if you just ate intuitively, which I do. Which you do. And maybe a little more intentionally

right before you're releasing your book. Yeah. So maybe you like steer away, steer a weir. Stay away. Steer clear of dairy for sure. Dairy for sure. Yeah, because I know that that does make a difference. Steer clear maybe of like the

processed sugars and like extra sugary things. Like maybe don't eat that orange cream pie before we podcast before you do that interview or whatever yeah I wouldn't do it before then yeah but also here's the thing I learned though when I gave up sugar uh-huh is it is really sad to bake food and not eat it exactly and baking is what makes me feel like a person exactly and so here's the thing maybe you just take away the sugar in the meals that you're eating Like maybe just be more aware of it And be like, oh, maybe I won't use this salad dressing Because it has 20 grams of sugar

And I'll just do this dressing Or I don't know Right, something like that Right But maybe just stay away from the things that you know We're going to make you just feel like garbage Like or like hey, you don't need ice cream Unless you're making the ice cream

Right To feel like a person Right Like you have to go through some effort in order who ingest the sugar. Yes. But cut out dairy for sure because dairy makes you just makes, dairy has made a difference.

Yeah. Which I guess if I cut out dairy though, I can't eat the ice cream even if I make it. Exactly. Because my ice cream without dairy is garbage. Yeah. I just, I just feel like you're smart. You already eat intuitively, which I personally think is the way to be anyway.

No, I agree. And so I think that you have a healthy view on food and food freedom as it stands. And so why would you need to put yourself through Whole 30 in order to find your food freedom when I think you already have it, Kendra. I feel like reading Rainbow music is going to start playing. If it did, I'd cry. Figured.

No, I think it's just it. I feel like I'm, the reason it's intriguing, but also the reason I don't really want to do it because I have done things that I've abstained, you know, like I've abstained from things. Yes. And it is, it is mostly very unpleasant. That whole like give up sugar and it's like you get past like the two and a half week mark. And then like you just, you get over the hump and everything's back. Nope. That hump never came. It just got worse. It was just a pit of despair. Yeah. You did have less headaches though. I did have fewer headaches. It's true. But I also have fewer headaches now when like that's why I don't need sugar during the day.

Yeah, exactly. See, that's what I'm saying. You already have a good handle on what makes your body tick. I just feel like, and here's the thing, if maybe when you're done with your book circuit. Uh-huh. That sounded very official. If you, is that a real thing? We're going to say it is. I think it did. When you're done with your book circuit. I want to go on a book circuit. In Mario Kart. You're going to stop the book circuit. Kids would love that. They'd lose their mind.

Yeah. And so you're going to stop that. Now let's say you're just like, man, I just, want to reset. I just want to take time for myself and I want to reset and I want to buy the ghee and I want to use the avocado oil and make my own mayonnaise or whatever. Do that if that's what you want to do. Right. I don't feel like I won't want to do that. But I don't think you'd ever want to do that which is why I don't think you need to do Whole 30. Yeah. Okay. I feel like you just saved me a lot of yelling about not getting to eat frosted flakes. Yep, pretty much. But that's another thing is like I don't eat cereal anymore really. Exactly. I don't eat. I cream a whole lot anymore. Really, when I think about it, the sugar that I eat is in my coffee

and in desserts I make. And there are so many hidden sugars and things. Yes, I, yes, I know. That you would have to cut out. And then that just requires more thinking space, though. Yes. But I have, like, the salad dressing, like I, because I did do that when I did my sugar-free thing. I was like, oh my gosh, there's sugar and literally everything. But like, I don't really eat most of that. I have like one of those fancy you know compliant all the compliant style dressings that I got at

Whole Foods or something I don't know or make my own and it's fine exactly I don't think you need to do it okay well I'm not gonna do it then don't do it I'm not gonna do it no this is this has been good pep talk

it's been good pep talk did you hear how I said it I feel like I don't think anything major is happening? I don't know if it's like a not placebo effect but a little bit

but I do feel a little buzzing well my lips are having trouble finding each other when I need to say words here's the thing this is a lot it's a high percentage of alcohol and what you just had it's not like you just took a sip of wine

right which still does quite a number on me anyway. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if it was doing a little something. Is there anything, you just, you just helped me so much. Is there anything that I can help you with in a decision that you want to make? It's okay if you don't have one, because that was kind of a big one that I had. I know.

Well, I think I have been trying to figure out if I want to buy a Dutch oven. Ooh, tell me more. Okay, here's what I want to use the Dutch oven for. Okay. I, okay, so I got a, like, 30-year-old bread starter. Where? And why didn't I get any? It's Dino's bread.

I want Dino's bread starter. Like a sourdough starter? Yeah. I want to make sourdough. Continue, this is your story. Okay. So anyways, I got this starter. And so I make, I make bread now.

It's so fun. And I, and I, I really love it. Yeah. And so I ask Caleb because I feel like, he's, do you, how great is it that this is Caleb's second mention in the ladies sisters podcast? This is true. He would be, he would blush. I can't wait to tell him.

I know. So I asked Caleb, I was like, okay, Caleb, here, I gave him the instructions that I was given about the sourdough dark. Uh-huh. Because here's the thing. when I bake it, it's very short. Sure. It's not tall.

Yes. And it's annoying because I have children that if it's not in the shape of an actual piece of bread, they're not going to eat the sandwich. And I just needed to be a little taller. So I asked Caleb, I was like, how do I make my bread taller? I feel like I'm, I feel like the instructions are overproofing it. okay and um it's not getting any rise in the oven yeah it's rising before it's doing it's all it's raising before it like so when i need it i'm only supposed to need it 10 times okay do you fold it

or need it well it said it said need in the instructions okay i personally fold it so that you don't you know get the air bubbles out of it right right because that's a thing right totally a thing you're you good instincts okay so i am really committed to this bread. Yeah. Bread does that to you, man. And I'm feeding this starter. And so I just, I actually, I have dough proofing in my oven right now. That's so exciting.

But it's, it's dough per Caleb's instructions instead of the instructions I was given, to see how it works. Yes, yes. Because he's never encountered a potato flake sour dough starter that I have that has, that has, that has been that old. Right. And so because of that, he's like, I'm not really sure how this is going to work. But here's what I do with my sourdough starter.

And, you know, regardless of the potato flake situation, he said, I think that there's so much probably wild yeast that's already taking over. Wild bees? Wild yeast. That makes worse. No wild bees. wild beef like thinking like that was that like some sort of like

weird analogy of like what makes the holes in the bread it's like all the bees are like pushing through it's a new bread term the honeycoma fact right that's what I thought that it was just create no wild yeast it's like so I think the wild yeast is like taking over

enough of it you know anyways so when I when I fed the starter per K. love's instructions here's what happened i saw air bubbles come out from the bottom of the starter and like explode to the top it was super cool that's very fun so i feel like some things are happening okay some different things are happening with this bread okay now when he makes bread he puts his in a dutch oven

he does he does yes he does so does jennifer by the way and jennifer does too yep which by the way if you're not following jennifer for her just for her goldie just for bread just for goldie just for holding her sourdough are. I mean, she's just great. So fantastic. Anyways, so I'm just trying to decide, do I want the Dutch oven? Because I feel like it's going to be used primarily for bread. Okay.

But I'm not sure, like, do I really want to commit to this? Like, do I really want to, do I really want to just be that person that makes sourdough in a Dutch oven? But I kind of want to try my starter in a Dutch oven and see if that makes a difference. But is that worth of money? And then of course, like when I think about Dutch oven, I'm like, oh, well, I could put a whole chicken in there. Or I could make a soup. And then I think of the other things that I could use it with. But is it like a spiralizer?

I got a spiralizer on Amazon last year in the middle of a whole 30. Right. The whole 30. Have I used it? Have I used it? Yeah. No. I'm not a spiralizer person either.

No. I feel like when people do the spiralizer tutorials, where do they buy their vegetables? They are, they're the perfect shape for the spiralizer. My sweet potatoes never look like that. Never. Seriously, where do you buy your sweet potatoes? Maybe they buy, they like dig through and find like I need to spiralize their shape. I have tried to dig through.

Oh, it doesn't work. even gone to the green grocery store sorry whole foods emy calls at the green grocery store and that's all I call it now too so I don't I mean if you're gonna buy a fancy a piece of vegetable

it's gonna be from whole foods right that you can spiralize yeah no it's probably true I can't find these big zucchini that people spiralize anyways regardless is the Dutch oven like a spiralizer yeah like is it worth it or is it just gonna I don't know. I had this debate with my cast iron skillet.

Yeah. I use my cast iron skillet all the time. Okay. All the time. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I look for reasons to use my cast iron skillet. You know, like that's how much I love it. Yeah.

So I know it's possible. Yeah. You know, same thing with my instant pot. Yes. Like I look for reasons to use my instant pot. Yes. Yes. So I don't know, man.

Do I get the Dutch oven? Yes. I do. Yes, you do. Okay. In no universe is a Dutch oven like a spiralizer. Okay. A spiralizer does one thing.

Yeah. It turns zucchini into ribbons. That's all it does. Why is that funny, but it is so funny. I don't know. So with your Dutch oven, you can obviously make your bread in there. Yeah. Okay.

If you love your cast iron skillet, that means you understand the value of a hot surface. Yeah. You understand the value of a sear. I do. I love a good sear. Love it. I just got goosebumps. Okay.

Thinking about sears. Now, you also, because you love your instant pot, you also love the value of, say, a good, a good stew. Yes. Or something a braze. Yes. Right. Have you ever made some sort of stew braze situation? You start the sear, you put the liquid, you do the thing.

Totally. Sure, it's over in 45 minutes. But do you ever wonder, man, you know, it would be nice. if my whole house smelled like this for several hours and I could lovingly come over and kind of like coddle what's happening this stew that's happening I want to talk to it. You want to talk to it. I do. I want to have a

relationship with my stew. You need a Dutch oven. I think I do too. Because a Dutch oven does, it is like if an instant pot and a cast iron skillet had the most beautiful blue enameled baby. I made too high. Yeah you I didn't even know you didn't have one.

I would have bought you one for Christmas years ago. I had one and then when I didn't know how to cook. Oh, that's a, yeah, it's cumbersome if you don't know what to do with it. I, because it weighs the size of like a toddler. I burned the pot. I burned it beyond the point of recognition. I did that too with my first one.

And so, and I never not got a new one. Okay. No, you, um. And that was, I mean, that was years ago. Yeah. But I mean, this was before. I knew how to cut a pepper before I knew how to cut an onion. I didn't know what it was doing.

I didn't even know how to cut up a vegetable. Right, right. You were bound to burn the bottom of your Dutch oven. Absolutely. No, you, I use mine all the time because it makes, you know, because it makes delicious stews and soups because it holds the heat because it's made of cast iron. Like a Dutch oven is made of cast iron that's coated in an animal. And so it is so consistent, it's so steady, you know, you will, you will make, you'll

short ribs you'll make ragu in there you'll brown up your mushrooms and your meat you'll get a sear on there you'll make your and i'm literally feeling emotional right now i have i have to get a dutch oven a dutch oven is a very um it's sort of like you know we you know you used to read like little house in the big woods yeah you know and you know i remember them talking about their cellars and their hearts and it was just you know we kind of want to go back to the days of like like drying your bacon and having your big pot on the stove and Ma and Paa and their kettles and all the things. I want to sleep on top of the stove like they do in Russian folklore. Of course you do.

And so a Dutch oven is about as close as you can if you live in North Carolina and you live in a ranch style house. Yes, is to buy a Dutch oven. Okay. And you can pick the color you want. They are, I would recommend getting one that is flat bottom, tie-sided and not around one. not like you want as much surface area on the bottom as you can okay okay so you don't want it so if you think about like the difference in a a bourbon tumbler uh-huh is that right versus like a teacup uh-huh where the top is much wider than the bottom okay you want your

base to be equal to or barely smaller than the top of the top of the top of the bottom okay you want your base to be equal to or barely smaller than the top. Like you don't want it to... Is it yours like an oval shape? I have two. Okay. And the reason I have a big one with a whole flat that's got a lot of surface area, right?

It's just like... But it's not as deep. It is deep. I've got a flat one that's deep. And then I've got one that is... It's almost more like a paella type size. Okay. That's the one I'm thinking of.

That's the one. And it doesn't have as much surface. area on the bottom but it is wonderful for like um different kind like it's great for regos because i don't need as much surface area and i can kind of do the thing and it can sort of simmer out because the taller the sides of your pan the less evaporation you're going to get right because it's trapping the liquid in from coming out and so i wanted one that could hold the heat but let out the moisture okay and so i have a shallow one and then i have a deep one i use the deeper way more i i shouldn't do that one I should do the deeper one because especially with wanting to do bread or absolutely yeah

yeah yeah have to have it it's kind of like you take like a flat circle and you literally just pull up the side straight up yeah okay that's what you want all right and you don't have to get like a go to tj max man like get they have they have they always have them i have a crofton i have a quezon art i have a crofton and a quezine art and they're both fantastic now i did try at a friend's house i did try her Nancy Le Cruzet. And I was like, it was an experience. I mean, it is a, it is a different, it is a different product. So you did notice a difference. I did notice a difference. But I don't know that I would notice a $200 difference. Aw isn't something we need to travel for. It's something waiting for us in everyday life, whether in a city street or a moment with a work of art.

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But here's the thing. You don't want to, for any of you who are out there searching for Dutch Evans, we save you this. Like, you want to buy, don't buy a L.A. that is not quite right because you're not going to use it. You buy the size, the shape, the color, like you buy your ultimate. And if you find that on clearance or Lake Ruse or you splurge or whatever,

and that's amazing. But please don't buy Lake Rusei just because it is, but it's not the right. That's great advice. It's not the right pot for you because you're not going to use it. It's right. And maybe you won't let it sit on your stove or... Right, exactly.

Right. Because it's not going to provide the function that you need. and then you're just going to be annoyed and you spent more money. You would have spent less money, even on clearance. Yeah. Then you would have on a Queesan Art brand or something. Exactly. That was the color that you wanted.

Exactly. Yeah. All right. Well, should we move to questions? Yes, people have asked us. Yes, people have asked us. Okay. So we have had a couple of people that want to know your reaction to Jenna Fisher.

we've mentioned before. Right, yes. So for those of you that don't know Jenna Fisher by her real name Yeah. Fake name. Pam Halpert Beasley. Pam Halpert Beasley from the office.

So she shared one of your stories and talked about how she loved your podcast and all the things. Yeah, she did. So people are wanting to know

how you're reaction to this man? Yeah, that was a wild day. That was the day where well here's the thing here like just for comparison sake so the week or two before that happened um i was on a work weekend with some girlfriends i put it on instagram it's my like mastermind group and um jamy golden's in it jami might be listening right now huh jimmy brie mccoy who famous famous coffee brie mccoy and larramane and then emily freeman and laura it was laura's house Laura's friends with Jenna. You know, Laura lives in California.

She, their kids go to the same school, all the things. So as we're sitting in the house, we're all like working on our own separate things. And then Jamie from like, you know, the middle of the house, we're all in different corners. And we were like, what's happening? And she goes, you guys, she had a Fisher commented on a post we're tagged in. Now, Laura had posted a picture. She had done a post on Instagram and had tagged all of us. it. Now, Jenna's comment had nothing to do with us. Yeah. It was just checking in on her friend. Like,

hope you're having a fun weekend. Like, it wasn't like, who are these girls you're with? Totally. Wasn't anything like that. Can I be their friend too? Yeah, exactly. It wasn't. But that's how, we were so excited that Jenna Fisher had just seen your names. Yeah. Your faces. Your faces. Your names. That picture wasn't even, it was like a far shot of us working. Like, you could, you would have to pinch and zoom to even maybe see the fact that I wear glasses. Like, it wasn't a thing. But We were, that's, and we were so excited about that. Fast forward. I get a DM from someone.

And she's like, you're on the front page of the kitchen. And I was like, oh, my gosh, my gosh, because I had done a profile with the kitchen without an E, which is like such a great food website that I love, months earlier. Yeah. They hadn't told me, or they told me a couple days ago that it was going up. Yeah. But they are a food website. They don't usually put their people things on the front. page. Exactly. So I knew it was going to be on there, but it was more like, hey, you guys,

this is this cool. I was on the kitchen. You could link to it because if you didn't have the link, you would never find it kind of thing. Yeah. And just because that's not what they, people don't go to the kitchen to see other people's faces. They go to see a plate of beautiful eggs. Like that's just how it goes. I was not resentful. I was like, this is what it is. and so I was the top, like top of the fold, like in a newspaper. Like it was the top thing. Your face was right there. It was right there. It was bonkers. And so I get that DM. And then I put it on Instagram to celebrate. It was such a fun thing.

And then everyone's like, you guys were cheering me all like crazy. It was just so fun. And then six hours later, I get another DM. I don't remember what it said. But it was basically some form of like lots of shock face emojis and Jenna Fisher's name in there somewhere. And so I went over to Jenna's story. And she, yeah, she like tagged me.

She was like, I listened to this podcast, Lazy Genius podcast, morning routine. Is that what she listened to? And then she, like, screenshot it. Like, it was like a whole situation. It was a whole thing. It was a whole thing. I, you were the first person I called. You apparently did not know that until this moment.

I didn't. Okay, so I called you first. And I was like, I'm literally drawing hearts on my feet forward right now. So I call, I call Hannah. And then like, Hannah, I remember, did I say, Jennifer Fisherman? just talked about me in her story, her Instagram story. I think that's always said. I don't think it was that many words.

I mean, I was, yeah, it was, you were in shock. You were in shock. And then I thought that all phone lines in North Carolina were not working because you did not say anything for like a legit minute. Yeah, I was completely silent. Like we just both were standing there holding phones, nothing being communicated. No. Internally screaming.

Oh, my gosh. It was just the weirdest thing. And then like because you like when you tag somebody in your story, you automatically are in their DMs now. You know how like when you have DMs like new ones, you have to give them permission or whatever. If someone tags you, they're giving you permission already. So I'm in Jenna's DMs now. And so I deemned her. And I was like, this was so generous of you.

Like you didn't have to say this. You didn't have to send people to me. I got like 2,000 followers from her, which is crazy. And it was like, it was bonk. It was just bonkers. And I mentioned Laura. You know, I was like, because that's how she found me, obviously. And I was like, whatever.

I was just, I just said nice words. I didn't gush. I just was grateful. Yeah. She wrote me back. She asked me for like help on her morning routine. Like specifically. It was so crazy.

Oh my gosh. And then like a week later, like last week, I'm doing my Instagram live on Thursdays like I always do. And she joins. She joins. And I immediately was like, oh, it was an accident. Because you know, because Instagram prioritizes stories. Yes.

In your little thing. Yes. And I was like, oh, and I'm a new follow. Like a lot of times a new follow, like they go, because they don't know. Because she started following me. That was the other thing. Like several days later, she started following me on Instagram. She didn't follow me immediately.

Then she started following me on Instagram. I was like, this is. Stupid. Then I'm doing Instagram live last week. Her name pops up. I'm like, it's a Mac. It's a mistake. She's gone. She's gone. She's on. She's on. It's fine. And then she starts, like, sharing her brandless crowd pleaser. And she asks me if I own an Instapot. And then I say something about cleaning out your cabinets. She starts cleaning out our cabinets. And now she's cleaning out our kitchen on Instagram. And you guys, I just, I just want to, I'm going to give myself a big old pat on the back for not losing my actual shit. when her face came up. Completely. Like I was, like, I can't, I cannot explain the, like, just a minute ago when my brain went dark. Like, that's what happened.

Yeah. You deserve an Oscar, like you said. It was just so crazy. So to answer your questions, guys, I, how am I feeling about it? I'm still kind of shocked because we've, we've DM back and forth a couple times. Like, I can legitimately say, like, Jim. Nana Fisher and I are Instagram acquaintances, which is bonkers. It is bonkers.

It's absolutely bonkers. Next question. All right. So let's move to Amanda's question. I'm going to just read this question because summarizing it, I feel like we'll take, you know. I'm just going to read the, I am so sorry. I just hit the mic really aggressively by accident. Okay.

So Amanda says, I could use some guidance from you moms. I have an eight-week-old baby who's pretty needy. As they are. Doesn't like to be put down for a lot too long, et cetera. But I also have this desire to start cooking again for a family. Right. She's bought your meal plan guide. I love you.

Trying to complete her brainless crowd pleaser list but needs help with easy to cook, quick and healthy options. Also, any tips for doing this with said needy baby. Right. So how can we help Amanda? Right. Um, here's, how about I start? You start.

I will start even though you are the creator of the meal plan. You have valuable things to say as well. But I also, I have a 12-week-old baby. You do. You are very much in the thick of it. So I am in the trenches with you, Amanda. Um, here is the thing. I felt the exact same way around the eight-week mark.

Oh, where I was like, I, I really want to start cooking. Yeah. Now for me, cooking brings me a lot of life. I love to do that. But it is. It's so hard to do with a needy baby. I think that my advice to you would be to start small with your goals. So like, for example, when you were saying you wanted help with easy to cook quick and healthy options, start with change your life.

As we said before, it is Whole 30 approved even, like by accident. So what I would do is next week, just start with Change Your Life Chicken on a day where you feel like you're going to get the most bang for your buck, so to speak. And do it really simple. So my first Change Your Life Chicken post baby was he was maybe seven and a half weeks old. And all I did was sweet potatoes, carrots, and onions. Right. Good combo. So it was just peeling those and then cutting them up.

And I did that kind of throughout the day. And then because I was asking my question. Yes. What can I do now? That will make dinner easier later. Right. So like I cut up the onion like the night before. I did, you know, peeled the sweet potatoes and the carrots at the same time.

Then cut them up at various times throughout the day. And then it was kind of fun because the end of the day, What I did was, and I don't know how your baby is like this, but if they are needy and they do enjoy being held, like mine does as well, I just put them in the carrier. And then I assembled everything with him on me. And then I had this lovely, healthy option that we were eating. And that was enough for me for that week.

Right. So I would start with something small and just see how that makes you feel. And that high may carry you on through it. It's true. We kind of look for like a big old system for stuff like this. We're like, I need a big solve. I need it to be this way all the time. And usually you need far fewer changes than you think.

Exactly. Now, this is us not saying like, you're fine. You're making too big of it. No, no. We have lived this. Yes. It is really like heartbreaking in a lot of ways to not be able to cook dinner. And so just see though that there is tremendous value in successfully cooking one.

Yes. And you start the momentum because it feels hopeless otherwise. I will say too without an easy way to do change your life chicken without having to cut up a thing is to do baby carrots and creamies. You just dump the bags on the pan. There you go. You don't have to do anything yet. Such a great idea.

So you can just sort of like. My husband is morally opposed to baby carrots. I am too. I am too. And I mean, I don't think they taste as good. But at the same time they're going to be roasted with chicken fat on top of them. Exactly.

He'll live. And so it's one of those things where it's even a. it's an even smaller step for a very easy recipe. Another thing that I thought about is when you're holding a baby, when they start to get too, when they get too big for a carrier but they still want to be held, like little toddler like Siley, like your middle one.

It's really good to start paying attention to tasks in the kitchen that require two hands and do them like earlier in the day. And you have to imagine a magic question. your life like a lot but once you get in the habit of it it's helpful so like for example like you know we would have pasta a lot um just because it's easy you can just dump a sauce make a sauce really fast whatever it is microwave meatballs with one hand but you cannot carry a big pot of water to the stove with one arm like with a baby in one arm and the pot in another arm because guess what happens the water pours out on you and it gets your shoes and your pants and your shirt and your

baby wet and then you're like it's not like that's happened to me before exactly and so I would just start to think like what are we having for dinner tonight what do I need to do now that like because certain things you can make with holding a baby and then other things you cannot and so just to start to kind think through like you're not always holding the baby I know you don't want to have to worry about dinner every minute that you're not holding the baby like you want to maybe do other things like just sit without a human touching you um but I'll in that small step in those small steps that you said like you'd be surprised at what like two minutes can get you you know if you just like really intentionally go like magic question dinner for two minutes when you

don't hold a baby you can get a lot done um the other thought is i have not bought this cookbook myself but i've heard a lot of good things about it it's called parents need to eat too um it came out a few years ago but put it in the show nuts perfect it's by debby kaneag i wonder if it's related to sarah Saragate egg. But the subtitle for it is nap friendly recipes, one-handed meals, and time-saving kitchen tricks for new parents. Another great resource. I have to cough like crazy. Another great resource is the Instagram account, Nap Time Kitchen.

Yes, that's great. She is a great follow. She stories all the time. So she's always got like a solid 20 panels up with tons. with tons of tips. She has a brand new baby, a two-year-old, and like a four-year-old. And she cooks during naps.

But she also, like, there's a lot of, like, assembly, you know, like a lot, if you do, like, a lot of food prep, like, all at once. And she's just got really, really great tips for feeding families, but also, like, yourself and making the food when you've got little kids around. Absolutely. So I hope that helps Amanda. I hope that encourages you.

And you're doing great. Oh, my gosh, you're doing so great. You're doing so good. Okay, next question. Catherine. Hi, Catherine. says, I'm wanting the one thing that has made your friendship really strong. I have two girls that are close in age and still young because I'm not close to my brother.

I would like to encourage that bond as much as possible. Right now, I just let them play together but still enforce their boundaries. Also with my question above, were you close growing up? That's a great question, Catherine. We were not close growing up. We were not close growing up. We're seven years apart. I feel like that's important to say.

That's important to say. Which is different when your kid, when your little kids. Yes. I was the worst. You weren't great. No. And then. But neither was I.

I mean, neither of us were killing it. And really when we started getting closest when you got engaged. Yeah, when I was like a grown-o. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. So, yeah. So, no, we were to answer that for that second question, no, we were not close. We're not close.

Now. Yeah. Very close. Totally great. Totally fine. I would say that and maybe, I don't know if I can name one thing. Well, I could name one thing, but like we don't need to name one thing because it's very dark. But I also think that like there's something, when I see siblings, like adult siblings that are close, it means that they have gone through.

hard stuff together and have also talked about it. Yes. It's, and I don't mean like you need to like manufacture like really horrible situations for your girls to have something in common. But maybe it's not even the hard stuff. I think it's just being like communicating and being honest with each other, which I think it's just sort of like a general human rule. Yeah.

That's helpful for deep. It's just about vulnerability, honestly. And I think that is, it is a, I think that's a culture, like a family culture that can be. You don't need to work hard to develop that. I think it's just something that you model where you listen to your kids and you allow them to be safe and communicating what they need to communicate with each other. With that, you know, like obviously, you know, like Ben, my middle kid, he on the regular tells Annie he wishes she wasn't born. And I kind of wish he would not use that language because it's really dark. And when Annie is old enough for that to hurt her feelings, that's going to be kind of a bummer.

But at the same time, like, that is. a little kid not quite knowing how to express the fact that Annie always messes up his stuff. Yes. And so, you know, to not jump super fast on kids being unkind to each other. I'm not saying like let them be unkind, but just to, I think sometimes they need to like feel the freedom to say what they need to say. And then to go in and say there's a, you know, we can speak in kinder words and a kinder voice than that. Thanks for being honest about how you're feeling. let's talk about how to, you know, move forward and maybe communicate this without saying unkind things to your sister or whatever.

So, I don't know. That's what I would say. Yeah. I would agree. I was good because my response was going to be. I think that that is not something that you try to. Yeah, you can't manufacture it. Manufacture for them.

Yeah. But what you can do is just create a safe environment. Yep. And out of that safe environment, they will become their own people. Right. And forge that connection together. Right. And you, because I don't think anyone really had anything to do with us,

forging our own connection. That was a choice that we made. Right. With each other. Right. And, you know, coincidentally, it was when we were a lot older. And we were more our own people at that point. And that's when we were able to make that.

conscious decision. So don't be discouraged if your kids hit each other. Exactly. Because they'll come around. I shoved a shark in Kendra's face. Yeah, it was really sad. Purely to scare her. Still scarred by that.

Yeah. I was terrible. Yeah. Okay. Next question. Ryan asks. Hi, Ryan. And I'm pretty sure this is how you say your name Ryan?

Because it's R-Y-I-N. Oh, Ryan. I've seen Ryan around. Ryan, yeah. Ryan comes on live. a lot I feel like. Okay, Ryan, we love you. Yeah.

I mean, we love all of you. We do. But, okay. I recognize Ryan's name. So Ryan says, I'm obsessed with skincare right now. Oh, who isn't? Thanks to Jamie from the podcast. Oh my gosh.

Love our Jamie B. Golden. We do. What's your go-to that you buy over and over? And what's your cheap man's skin care routine? What does that mean? What's a cheap man's skin? Is that like a, what does that mean? I think that.

That means a man that doesn't want to spend any money on skincare. Oh, I'm lucky if Kodz splashes water in his face. Like, that is not hyperbole. Like sometimes when he's putting water on his face, I'm like, oh, he's feeling good tonight. Yeah. He needs to put water on himself. All right. So, Kendra, what's your one go-to you buy over and over?

Well, I haven't bought it a second time yet, but what I will. Here's what I'm realizing. And I'm glad that this question was here. I didn't know this question was asked because, kind of one of the things that I had on my list of possible things to talk about was I'm realizing that and I've known I mean I've known this I've known this especially with makeup but like more is not better correct more is not better and there are so many and skincare is so fun because there are so many options and there are so many things that claim and sometimes actually follow through on their claims of like

the pores and the wrinkles and the redness and the hydration and like all the things and when you're taking care of your skin like you've taught me like washing your face is great like that's important too but like to add a mask and to add you know something that adds moisture to your skin to perhaps have some sort of chemical exfoliant if you want to begin to kind of like when you get old

older like I am and it makes a difference and all the things so there are like more categories of skin care and so it feels like it's so fun to like fill it up with what should I do but I am finding that I would rather have like six

baller ingredients that might cost like maybe like a car payment that work and that I love and I use than buying like a bunch of like 10, 15 dollars things that I don't super love and use

Hannah is having an experience over there, I think, with my words. I'm pretty sure. I am. Okay. I'm so proud. I'm trying not to get emotional about it. But this is my wheelhouse, guys. This is what you love.

So my product, my ride or die right now that I don't know that will change unless my skin changes. Which, you have to take that and take it out. Absolutely. You've taught me that. Look at you. I'm not married to this. I will use this until I don't love it anymore. Exactly.

Exactly. But I still love it. And that is Mainlandstrom's honey mud. I knew that's what you were going to say. I freaking love that stuff. It is so decadent. It is $80 for a jar, which as I say those words, I am immensely embarrassed. But that is not the most expensive skincare product I buy either.

So that's fine. I also run her up as the problem solvers, the Maylemson problem. Basically, like, I feel like Mayleland. Between May Lindstrom and Indy Lee, I don't think I need anything else. Yeah. Like those two lines just my skin adores those two lines. So let me just tell you guys something here. When you are watching Kendra's lives, when you are looking at her stories and you go,

why does her face look so good? What is she doing? She's listening to Hannah. What is her skin? No, it's not that you're looking at her. listening to me. It is that you have found what your soul has longed for. I have found what works. And you are using what works. Yes, I am. See, here's the trap we get into his skincare. We, we, uh, try, try new things in search of that one thing that we'll be able to buy over and over. Yes,

and here's the thing. You're probably not going to get it in the clearance aisle at Target. Yeah. I'm just saying. it, guys. I'm just saying it. It's so hard. It's so annoying. It's terrible. I'm not saying that there are not cheap things. Sure. That can give you life. Sure. Mabelene baby lips. I'm talking to, I'm talking to you, man. I've been immensely enjoying that chapstick. I love Mabeline baby lips. Don't buy expensive mascara. Like, drug score mascara is fantastic. I'm sorry, I'm going to disagree with you. But that's okay. Maybe you can tell me, see, I haven't found the one. See, I'm happy with my mascara.

Like, it's fine. Yeah, exactly. It does fine. And that's the thing. When you're happy with something, stick with it. Stick with it for the love of God. Just stick with it.

So anyways, I'm just, it's good skin care. It is you taking care of yourself. It is using those things and using them regularly. And it makes a difference. It does. So here's my thing that I will never live without. And by the way,

I'll put these in the show notes as well. So don't worry about, you know, trying to Google this super fast as we're talking about it. Before you say your thing, let me say this about premium high quality skin care. Mm-hmm. It is worth every penny. I realize that it's scary to try. Mm-hmm. If you buy it at Sephora and it doesn't work, you can take it back.

You can. That's one thing that's fantastic. Target has a new, even though I just poo-pooed on Target. But they do have some good things too. But they now have a new beauty product return policy, and I think it's 60 days. Nice. They have signs in the makeup aisles and stuff now that you can return it with a receipt and just be like, I don't like it. And this is also why I love getting the Allure Beauty Box.

Because they send great products. And it's really fun. And I realize the privilege of that. Like, I'm not. I recognize that. But I also like would rather I would rather get my books at the library or wait for the annual book sale when the books cost a dollar than buy a new book every month or every couple of months and instead get the lower. Yeah. I put money into skin care and I literally have a pair of panties that I've owned since I was in eighth grade.

guys eighth grade every time i wear them luke is like honey the middle school panties you've got to let go them but here's the thing i'm like honey i'm saving my money i'm saving our pennies for my face okay because i may not have elastic in my underwear but you better believe my face is taking care of and i guess that was actually my point is that once you once you dip your toe you're never going to want to go back. You're never going to want to go back. So basically just like be aware that that it is, it is a world once you step in that it's not like it's a tricky world where they're like trying to woo you. Like you really only need a handful of products. But it is, it's going to be hard to go back because you're going to see a difference and it feels different, it smells different

and it has different results and all the things. And you're going to be like, oh, I cannot buy neutrogeneophobic cleanser ever again. Exactly. So here's mine. We share one, actually. Oh, fun. So the problem solver. You actually gifted that to me. And it was one of the most beautiful things that's ever happened in my entire life. You gifted me the problem solver.

It's a mask, by the way. I don't know if we specified that yet. The best mask ever. Yeah. So actually, this is kind of a fun story the other day. I had a hormonal breakout as one does. And this mask is one that you mix a certain way. It turns into a certain consistency.

That's kind of how you know you've added enough water to it. Like, you know, I mean, it's got some elements here. It's got some steps. Yes, it does. You also are supposed to let it sit between 30 and 45 minutes. On your face? Yeah, did you not know that? I would do like, is that what it says?

30 to 45 minutes. Because I do mine 20. It's 30. to 45 minutes. It needs to be completely dry. I do wait until it's completely dry. But that takes like 20 minutes. Then you're not using enough.

Yes. Okay. So, glad we had that talk. Fantastic. I mean, I'm getting amazing things just from that. I can't imagine if I put more on my face for longer. Exactly. There you go.

It looks like a baby. So here's what happened. I was so desperate and I trust this product so much, but I didn't want to use a lot because it costs a billion dollars. Yeah, that's really expensive. I did was $100 for a jar. Now it lasts for, I mean, it lasts like a, what do you think, a good year? Not if you use it as often as they recommend.

How often do they recommend? Two to three times a week. Oh, I only do it weekly. Yeah. I do it like once a month because I'm so in love with it. Right. You don't want it to go away. I can't, I can't have it go away right now.

Right. Okay. So, anyways, but I took like a pinch of it. Okay. And added like a splash of water. Uh-huh. and rubbed it on my face and it was like granular. Like it hurt a little bit to apply it on my face.

But I was like, I just need a little bit of this. I left it on my face while I was in the shower with a kid in the shower with me. Right. So that lasted five minutes, maybe. Y'all, my skin was glowing and perfect. Crazy. After I rinsed it off. I'm talking, I'm telling you guys, this stuff is amazing.

So that is one thing that I will always buy over and over. But since you already said that and I'm, you know, singing as praise as well, I want to give you something else too. I really love my toner guys. What toner do you use? I use some calm and crunchy. I always have. I've used it for three years. Oh, that's a good toner.

Her toner's a great toner. There are toners that I would love to try that are fancier, that are $92. I'm looking at you, Tata Harper. Tata Harper, man. She's killing us. I'm killing it. God. But here's the thing.

I'm pretty happy with my toner. So Tata Harper, I'm going to pass on your $92 for essence, even though I want to try it. I know. I know. But I'll link it. There's two toners.

There's a frankincense and colangilla toner. And then there's also a lavender and rose toner. I love the lavender and rose toner. I also use it to set my makeup too. It's just a great toner. And I'll always use it and it's very reasonably priced. And the other thing is one that is not a buy over and over, but you can continue to use it and it's a really great quality purchase is a normal wax. Wash cloth.

I was going to try to do a jinx buy you a Coke. Yeah. That's that might be what you said. Yeah. It's a great, it's a great cloth, man. It makes a huge difference. It gets my eye makeup off. Yeah.

No cleansers do. So I'm sorry that we just added hundreds of dollars to your list. Sorry guys. Sorry guys. But not sorry at the same time. Gosh, it's just to make a difference. It's crazy. It's stupid how much of a difference it makes. It's unfair.

It's bonkers. Okay. So our last question here. Oh, oh, I didn't answer your question about the cheap man skincare routine. Sorry to exclude this from you. We just said water. I just, you had already referenced water. water. Here's the thing. If your man doesn't desire to put anything on his face, don't buy him anything.

Don't buy him. That is my advice to you. It'll just sit there and you have to pick it up and you have to clean the bathroom. And if you're like, you know what? It's going to make a huge difference, honey, if you just wash your face with a cloth. If he starts washing his face with a cloth Uh-huh Buy him something One thing One thing

Maybe a little soap for the cloth Yeah you introduce one thing at a time Do not introduce a routine if you will No If he can't handle the routine Of just literally washing his face with a washcloth Once twice a day Then you know whatever

Same can be said for anyone Yeah You know like we think all these things And then we don't do them because we haven't started small. You've got to start small guys. You have to start small. But as far as like a cheap

skincare line, Harry's is pretty good. Yeah. Harry's is pretty good. It's pretty reasonable. Every man Jack is pretty good. It's also at Target as well. So those are good places to start

where you're not putting too much money into the routine. Okay. So last question. Charlotte. Charlotte Wilson. Sweet Charlotte Wilson. I love Charlotte Wilson.

Okay, so she is a swap question, Kendra. Oh, fun. I love those. Ooh, she is this in all caps, close to burning my house down. Oh, man. Liz Lemon style. Totally. And I pulled out the swap to bring me back from the break.

Oh, praise. So ready to swap our home. I think it should go over relatively smoothly. Cool. But my kids have three sets of grandparents. Oh. One of which is extremely gifted. Yeah.

This grandma does not get very sensible gifts. They usually involve small parts or huge parts. And even the kids don't stay too enamored of them for long. Yeah. How do I balance this overgifting grandmother with my dreams for a swap town? Yeah, that's a great question. That's such a great question and such a real question. Okay, so the thing that I noticed in that question is the line about like and not even the kids really are into them for too long.

that's true of a lot of toys now not all toys like my favorite room in my house is like my big beautiful it's not big but like my beautiful bright new living room with my with my cowhide rug and my gray

couch that I love so much that I swore would not be filled with toys ever right now it has been filled with dominoes and marbles and various pieces of wood and things of cardboard that the children have found and they have been building elaborate marble tracks for two weeks now.

So sometimes you're, you know, like, your kids are going to love certain toys for a long time. And that's okay and that's good. I think that though, if there are toys that the grandparents give, that the kids are like, you know, it's fine. You know those, I was trying to think, it's kind of like those subscribes, like the maternity clothes that you get sent the maternity clothes

and then when you're done with them, you just send them back. You know what I'm talking about? Like the subscription box thingies? Or like rent the runway or whatever. Yeah. I think in some ways you can see toys that way. Now this assumes that there is some place to store things.

Yes. Okay. So you have two, basically you have two issues here. You have, do you want to have, do you want to communicate with the grandparents about the gifts? Do you want to try to ask for a new rhythm and family? culture around gifts. If you're willing to have that conversation, that is definitely your point of origin that you want to go to.

And that is a conversation that some people feel good having and then a conversation that others do not. If you feel good or if you're like, I don't know, maybe I can feel good. How would I feel good? If you can introduce the swap concept to your grandparents and basically say to them, like, we are so grateful that you're so generous and we understand that you love to see your grandkids happy and fun and you want to see them open things and all of that. They don't get to enjoy everything that they're given because of all the generosity,

but they really want to go to Disney World or they really want a trampoline in the backyard or they really want to get new bunk beds that look like a spaceship or whatever it is. Would you be willing to give them one thing that's a toy and they're going to love it, I'm sure, And then if you want to get them more things, you can wrap up money or an envelope that says to mom and dad for your new spaceship bed that's coming, three, two, one blast off. Yeah.

Like, invite them into what it is that you're doing and not just like, oh, it's great. Don't make them feel badly that they're contributing to clutter. That is not a conversation that's going to go over well. No. Because more than likely, you know, that the the generation of grandparents is a generation that's like oh i got money now i didn't used to i was raised by people who were like we are going to eat potato peels we're making the potato

peel pie or whatever like there is a there is like uh that generosity is rooted in abundance and it's it's a beautiful thing in a lot of ways if you can see it that way absolutely they're just trying to give your kids what they did not have and And they see that the obvious answer to that is toys. What kid doesn't want more toys? But if they could contribute it to the happiest place on Earth? Exactly. That's going to feel really special to them equally.

And knowing that it's what the kids want and not necessarily what you want. Now, if that is not a conversation or a, you know, a consistent mindset that you can sort of, that your kids and you can carry on to your grandparents and you just need to figure out how to get the dang toys out of your house. if you have a storage situation of some kind you can have all the toys out like let's say it's a birthday okay like one of your kids has a birthday and there are three sets of grandparent gifts

that are you know filling the home you can do your best to kind of like you know put things in little baskets put things in little back like try to keep the little things together and all of that start to notice what your kid is actually playing with okay If there are, sorry, that's gross. If there are toys that are kind of being, you know, they're like being ignored, they're being left behind.

You can just sort of see like this is not the toy that's going to live for a long time here. Now, I have been known to throw away many a McDonald's happy-mail toy without my children's permission. Me too. Because they don't really care. But there are sometimes toys that they do care. They're just too distracted to see it. You know what I mean? And so you could do the whole toy rotation.

thing if you wanted to. I feel like that can be a little bit tricky because then it's another thing to remember. What I sort of would see is like rather than being on a rotation, it's like starting small. It's like, all right, so do you see what your kid's playing with? You can tell your kid like, okay, some of our toys are going to go on vacation for a little while. They're going tomorrow. So let's say goodbye. And then we're going to pack them up and we're going to send them away on vacation or they're going to go hibernate or you can be like creative. They're going on an adventure and you put all those toys into like a big old plastic container and you put it in your attic or your basement or garage or whatever it is.

And here's the thing. If you get two years down the road and you find that container, sell the things in the yard sale. Or if you're like, you remember three months later like, oh, you know what? I bet. I wonder if the kids would want a plate. Go get one thing. Go get one little baggie from that bag and bring it in.

And it's like new fun joy that the kid will enjoy because there's not a million things around it. So I think the conversation is the better place to start because the more kids you have, the more grandparents you have, birthdays, Easter, baskets, Christmas, all the things. It's like, it's a lot. It really is a lot. But if you can't, it's okay to just like put the stuff away until your kid asks for it or the grandparent asks for it or you're like, they're growing out of this and they don't care about it anymore and just pull out one thing at a time. Love it. That's what I would say. I love it.

Charlotte also had a two-part. She had another question here. It was for me. Speaking of Norwex face cloth. Look at that. She said, and Hannah, do you use any cleanser with your Norwax face cloth? I've been using my Norwax for almost two years and love them. I'm wondering if there's a cleanser that works well with them.

Okay, so here's the deal. I have pretty exclusively been using one cleanser for over three years. And that's also some call me Crunchy's oil cleanser. So with an oil cleanser, I love using that with my Norwax because it takes a little bit of something, something to get it off. Just because of the nature of an oil cleanser. So I use that. I will definitely link to it in the show notes. But I would say if you have a cleanser that you love, just take it off with the Norwax

cleanser. Like you don't necessarily have to put it on your cloth. Like working into a lather. Yeah. Just use your facial cleanser like you normally would. And then when you go to wipe off your cleanser or rinse it off, instead of rinsing it off, just wipe it off with your cleanser. and it adds a little bit of

exfoliation naturally as well which is a nice perk so that's what I would recommend I think that's so great so great so great do you listen to Mega? Do I tell you to listen to Mega? The podcast You did not tell me to listen to Mega

I did not tell you that I listened to Mega but Jamie Golden told me to listen to Mega well that and I just felt like I really needed to to give credit where credit was due. No, that's true. I did hear about it from her. No, that's true.

I just thought I told you, I thought I was like, I started listening to me that you should listen to it. Yeah, I had already listened to it when you sent me that text and then I said, I'm looking to it today. Oh, that's right. I remember that text now.

But every time I say, that's not neat. That's not neat. She says all the time. I just say, that's not neat. It's a mega church, like parody podcast.

Yes. It's not real. It's not real. It's not real, guys. That's what, well, I mean, that's what parody means.

but you know what I mean. But I just think God works in a few That's so neat. That's so neat. But she says it all the time. Okay, so let's close up shop with a game. Can we click, can we do that?

Yeah, let's do it. What's our game? Oh my gosh. I just like attached my microphone. All right, here we go. That's not the game. No, it's not. I think it would be super fun.

My favorite, one of my favorite games ever, maybe my favorite game ever. Oh my gosh. You're really struggling. My super cold. Do you need water? It's so disgusting. It's so disgusting and I'm so sorry.

I know. So here's what you're just trying to swallow a loogie right now. It's so gross. So here's what we're going to do. My favorite game, my favorite party game is six degrees of separation. Yes. Okay. I would like for us to play six degrees of separation and maybe we can make this a feature sometimes.

But instead of Kevin Bacon, it's Michael Fastbender or James McAvoy. Okay. You can pick either one. Okay. Okay. I figure if you're playing. You know, you're playing. you might pick Fassie, but I don't really know.

Yeah. And today, we are going to connect. I randomly picked out a thing. Okay. And I'm going to look it up right now. Okay. And we're going to connect. Which one should we pick?

Maybe you can. Well, no, we have to pick the same person. Well, it's fine. We're going to connect one of those men. Okay. To the. Me. No.

No. It's going to be. To me. To the 1958. Winner. Oscar winner of supporting actor, who I'm about to look up. Oh my gosh. Okay.

You ready? Okay. Oh my gosh. The winner of best. Is this actually possible? The best supporting actor in 1958 was red buttons for the movie Sionara. All right. You are bonkers.

Okay. This is how we're going to end up the episode. No, this is going to take. Take us for hours. No, it's not. No, it's not. We're going to get there. Who the hell is red buttons? Oh, you don't know who Red Buttons is?

You don't know who that is? No. Oh, well, then we have, it has to be somebody you know. Oh, oh, yeah. I don't know who Red Buttons is. Okay, here we'll do it. Oh, my gosh. If anyone, if anybody that is listening to this right now knows who the hell red buttons is.

Do you remember that creepy Alice in Wonderland TV special? He was in that. He was like the caterpillar or something. Okay. I know who. red button so it's just kidding i just looked on the google okay so i looked up

1968 instead okay so here all right well do do you want to do we could do best actress is katherine heppern best supporting actor is george kennedy and cool hand luke let's do and then alfred hitchcock won

like a lifetime thing what if we do alfred hitchcock to let's do McAvoy because he's been on my mind lately as he should he's been on my heart can't deal oh somebody

I can't remember who it was but somebody DM'd me recently and she was like my friend worked at a coffee shop in Highgate where James she said your James where your James was doing a play and she said he was the kindest person and he always tipped really well and she was like

I just thought you'd want to know that he seems like he's actually a good person and I was like that's not helpful of course he is okay alfred hitchcock to james mackooy we you guys we have whiteboards in front of us so we're gonna try to talk or should we try we're gonna or do you want to compare or do you want to try to talk through the shortest road together we need to do this together all right because what i'm going to do is just sit here and look at this statue of a face there's a fat statue on our table so james macko okay i feel like our inn is that james mackooy was in that movie with Christopher Plummer.

Okay. Do you remember that movie? From like a few years ago. He played... Hold on while I jogged my memory through my smartphone. Maybe that's not who it is. Maybe that's not who we choose. Okay.

Maybe the N is... No, the N is the in Patrick Stewart? Can the N be Patrick Stewart? Who has Patrick Stewart been in that can connect with an older This might be a better game when it's not really late at night. And you have, you're bourbon angry and I'm bourbon. No, I never am bourbon angry. I am more myself when I am drinking bourbon.

No, okay. But I finished that glass a long time ago. The loss, it's a translation. Everything, everything ends in Patrick Stewart for me. So that's not helpful. Sure. Okay. So James McAvoy has been.

with um okay i'm just still trying to figure out what movie you're talking about the movie it's it's uh it's Christopher plumber and jace mcccic his what his ex-wife is in the movie um it's like a period piece who's about an author gosh man i i've gone a blank on this you're not supposed to use when you play this game for real you're not supposed to use IMDB and stuff like that, but I feel like for the sake of this, we might as well. For the sake of time. It's okay. We can see the game for the next.

I thought it would go off faster. No. Here's what I would like to do, Endra. It was called. I would like for you. I'm almost there. I'm out. No. The last station.

That's what it's called. The last station. Okay. Here's a fun game. Here's a fun game. Kendra, you, you figure out, you figure out without the Google, without the IMD bag. I'm so glad we didn't. We didn't pick with that.

No, that's what you do, Kendra. So the next time we record, which is going to be in a couple weeks, because we're doing a double episode. Yeah, we're going to do another one. Over the next two weeks, you figure out how to connect. bread buttons and James McAvoy and you come back to us. I'm going to do it. Without Google. Got it.

Without I promise. You do it. Okay. I'm ready. I'm so excited. I'm going to do it. I'm going to kill it. You're going to be so surprised.

Oh, my gosh. How do we connect red butter James McAvoy in three degrees? I. How did she only do it in three moves? Oh my gosh. You're going to text me this at like 1147 at night and I'm going to wake up the next. the next morning be like oh my gosh there she did it she did it

it it's like my own like code in the imitation game I'm gonna break the machines and then the wall I don't think you can do this I can do it without Google red buttons Kendra red buttons

red freaking buttons you can't do this okay if I can't remember anyone else it was in that May 4 TV I was in I'm screwed. Was he actually in the made for TV Alice in Wonderland? I am 99% sure of this. Can you at least confirm that?

Okay. I'm not using the Google. He was not the caterpillar. The caterpillar was... Was he a rabbit? I don't know. He wasn't the caterpillar because the caterpillar was Sammy. Sammy.

Davis Jr.? Davis Jr. Yes. Okay. Red buttons. I can't believe this is going to my search history. This is just absolute garbage. Okay, and I'm not going to tell you anything else he was in.

No, no, of course not. That's cheating. And because, see here, his top results. Yeah. You can totally do it. You could totally do it in like two moves. Maybe it'll come. Two moves?

Maybe. Maybe. What? Yeah. Okay, I have to go in my mind palace. I got a fine red, buttons in there somewhere. And there's another one that you could have.

Did you know he was in there? Like did the movie that you just said? Like did you know he was in there? No. No. Oh, well then that's not. It's not so it's not like an obvious glaring thing. I'm not talking anymore.

Okay. He was in Alice in Wonderland. Okay, there it is. Who did he play? He was. Was he a rabbit? The white rabbit. He was the white rabbit.

He was. He was the white rabbit. Okay. And just looking at these pictures are giving me such. I can't. tell if it's trauma or nostalgia. That movie. Y'all, okay, so it was

1980, 1985, 1989, it was Allison the Wonderland and it was focused on like, I mean, this was like the book, so it had the jabberwocky in it, which was terrifying. It wasn't great.

Shelley Winters was in this, Sammy Davis Jr., as I said, was the caterpillar as well as Father William. I remember Carol Channing was in it. And then who was the, what are the twins? The twins? The dude and the dude and the.

Like Tweedledee and Tweedledum? That's it. Yeah. Carol Channing was the white queen. Yeah, I remember Carol Channing because her voice and her teeth. Uh-huh. The width of everything about her is intense. Patrick Duffy was the goat.

You know you're helping my case right now, right? but I want to be sent a little with you I do too but I also want to win this game and I need to know who Red Buttons is in a movie with I forgot oh my gosh I just got chills there are two big names in Alice and Wonderland the TV movie

that are not Patrick Duffy Carol Channing or Sammy Davis Jr. No they would totally you would totally kill it why did I just tell you to stop telling you names I have to go on Patrick Duffy now Oh my gosh These two names are insane What if I promise to not use the two names?

Will you tell me? What if I promise I have to use Carol Channing, Sammy Davis Jr., Shelley Winters, and Patrick Duffy is my next move. That's fair. Bow Bridges. Bo Bridges was in it. He was the unicorn.

That's right. Guess who else? Who did he play? Or she play? He was the unicorn. No, the person you're saying, guess who else? John Stamos.

John Stamos was in the movie? Yes. He was Haiga, the messenger. H-I-No, H-A, I'm sorry, I can't spell. H-A-I-G-H-A. H-A-G-H-A-H-A-H-A-H-A-H-A-H-A-A-W. We did not know that when we watched that movie in 1980-M-A-M-E-M-E-M-E. Okay, well, I'm going to come back to the next episode,

and I'm going to have connected red buttons in James McIverboy. And Pat Maure. Ta. Aw. That's fun. I know. Okay, so. I forgot he was in it too.

Patrick. And Jack Warden. I'm not going to be able to sleep. Jack Gordon, he was the owl and while you were sleeping, remember? He was the owl and while you were sleeping. That doesn't make any sense. He was the owl. He was the owl.

And also while you were sleeping. Also, and while you were sleeping, he was Saul and while you were sleeping. Right. Okay. I can do this. Okay. But you can. You can't use John Stamonds?

No, I'm not. I only can use Carol Channing, Sammy Davis Jr., Shelley Winters, and Patrick Duffy. Don't forget about red freaking buttons. I know, that's what I mean. Like red, like, because it's, you know, like Red Buttons was in a movie with so-and-so. So-and-so is in the movie with so-and-so. I need the first so-and-so. So it has to be one of those four.

Okay. I can do this. Okay. I still don't think you can go from Carol Channing to James McAfoy. But you have two weeks to do it. okay this might have been our longest episode it's probably the longest and weirdest by far like really a lot of very a lot of variables a lot of disparate topics but we're gonna we're gonna call it a day we missed you guys obviously appreciate your um patience in waiting and

in finishing this episode if you actually finished this episode would you comment Let us know I'm just I really Another another Another thing I don't think I don't think anyone will finish this episode I think people will finish the episode

I don't think everyone will But I think some people will We're a delight Maybe I'm just insecure You mention your middle school panties I think people are gonna People are gonna keep listening Oh my gosh

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I'll see you next week when we talk about food and a bowl. Bye, guys. You ever felt like you were living just a B or B-plus life? It's so dangerous to live that. More dangerous than a B-minus or a C-plus life? Because when you're living a B- or B-plus life, you don't. change it. You think it's good enough. Is it? I'm Susie Welch. I host a podcast called Becoming You. People think, okay, an A-plus life is not available to me, but there is a way. We are all in the process of

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