The Lazy Genius Podcast - Bonus: Sister Speed Dating with The Lazy Sisters

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

Surprise! We’re experimenting with where The Lazy Sisters Podcast lives. Today, you’re getting a bonus episode from Hannah and me. We’re sister speed dating, so you can get to know each of us a ...little better. This podcast is hosted by Kendra Adachi and executive produced by Kendra Adachi, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 All electric and thoughtfully designed to elevate your modern lifestyle. The Volkswagen ID4 is fun to drive with instant acceleration. that makes city streets feel like open roads, plus a refined interior with innovative technology always at your fingertips. The all-electric ID4, you deserve more fun. Visit vw.ca to learn more. SUVW, German-engineered for all. Hello, you're listening to The Lazy Genius Podcast. I'm Kendra Adachi, and I'm here to help you be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. Usually on this podcast. We talk about practical things or at the very least, permission giving things, right?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Ways for you to make your life work better for you based on what matters. But sometimes we need to have some fun. Sometimes we need to get a little rowdy. Sometimes we need to talk about things other than housework and time management and how to get dinner on the table. Things like period cups and Timothy Shalame and weird movies we watched when we were kids. The most genius way I know how to bring that energy is to introduce you to my sister, Hannah. Hannah and I are the lazy sisters and will still help you be a genius about the things that matter. It's just that those things are a little off the beaten path than I usually talk about. Hannah will join me for the occasional bonus episode and I know you'll love getting to know her and us together. Hannah brings out a unique
Starting point is 00:01:51 side of me that no one else can and we always have a good time. So in this episode, we're going to do what is basically sister speed dating, where we're going to help y'all get to know each of us a little better super quickly. And I can't wait. So I won't wait anymore. Hi, Hannah. Hi, Kendra. This is so exciting. This is exciting. Did you know that I joined a gym? Um, I'm sorry. I did. I did. I joined Planet Fitness um yesterday. Um, incredible. I know. What are your plans? I guess. to exercise. To walk on the treadmill, maybe for 20 minutes, and then go home. I love it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I'm starting small. Yes. But I figure $10 a month, it's like I need. Is it really that? That's all it is, is $10 a month. Wow. Okay, Planet Fitness. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:02:42 So the thing that made me want to do it is, well, our mom belongs to a Planet Fitness. I belong to a different one because mine is like closer to my house. Okay. But I went and visited with her last weekend because I work at home. I home at home. Everything I do is at home. So doing movement, which is already complicated at home, was also like, this is not working for me. Yeah. I wonder what would happen if I went to a gym and just walked on a treadmill. I don't have to use the whole gym right away. I don't have to know how to use the tectonic balls. Like, I don't know what the things are called. I don't have to do all the machines.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I can just get on a, I can just get on a treadmill and live my life and go home. I mean, honestly, who wants to work on the tectonic balls? I didn't know that this is a very much. I don't know. I don't think that's real, but there were. There are tectonic plates. There are, I feel like there was a word that starts with tea, and there were balls in the area of the gym where it was. And so I just made something up. Yeah. I mean, start an earthquake.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Anyway. So you didn't know. We're going to start. I didn't know. We're going to start our episodes with a, did you know. And I didn't think I had told you that yet. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Did you know that I got my septum beers? I did. The minute you walked in here. But I was like, wait a minute. She, has she always? Have you always had a nose piercing? Yes, I have had a nose piercing, just not there. Just not that one.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So for those of you that don't know, the septum is a little piece of skin between your nostril. Yeah, it's like the, it's like the, oh, I don't want to call it what I'm about to call it. I was about to call it like a flap. Like the nose flap. It's the middle of the nose. It's the middle of the nose. Yeah. And you can get that pierced.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And you got it pierced. I got it pierced. I've been wanting to get my septum pierced for a really long time. I feel like 2022 is. the year that you're like, I've been wanting to do this for a really long time. And now you're doing all of those things at once. No, absolutely. You got your tattoo?
Starting point is 00:04:32 You got your septim pierce. You got your mullet. You are like living the best life. Yep. I gave myself a mullet. I cut my own. I'm living my best life. I mean, you really are.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. It's like you have come. You have what, what wearing glasses has done for me is what 2022 has done for you. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I'm here now, guys. I'm here. Here we are. Oh, that's so fun.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Okay, so we are going to, okay, so how many times does Kendra say? Okay, so let's keep a, keep a tally, everybody. Drinking games. So many times. We are going to do just like a sister speed dating. I have three things that I think everyone should know about me. I have three things I think everyone should know about you and you have the same. Correct.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Let's do it. Let's do this. So three things that I think everyone should know about Hannah. We'll start with that. Hannah has exquisite taste in all things entertainment. Thank you so much. Her music taste, her taste in books, her taste in shows. I can't think of except for the supernatural.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I can't get into your CW shows. I mean, honestly, I can either. It's, I just, it's the, it is the old way. I mean, really at this point, I don't keep up with the CW shows. But I do keep up with the. old like when they were the WB shows sure sure yeah but supernatural is I will never apologize is it still on no they ended it they did end it but they ended it like last year okay yeah I was gonna say yeah I mean it was recent I haven't watched the final season honestly because I know I'll be devastated
Starting point is 00:06:15 you'll be very sad you gotta save it it's like um are you the person who doesn't watch the season the series finale of something or is that Jamie golden somebody I know like holds off on watching the series finale of a show that they love because they don't want to say goodbye. Like, they just wait. I do that. You do do that. Yes. I know that there are people I know who do that.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yes. So other than those, like whenever you have given me a book recommendation, a play, like anything music related, it's always top much. Thank you so much. Always top much. Thank you. What if you gave one thing about you? Like we talk about you, but you give one thing about you.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Oh, I love that. I love that. Let's do it. Let's ping pong. Okay. I think that I'm a great cook. Oh, you are a great cook. You know, it's really interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't know if you've ever experienced this as well. Are people surprised when you make food for them? And they're like, oh, wow, this is really good. Like there's this, I mean, granted, maybe this, you're not a good person to do this with because you have a bit of an established reputation. You have a cooking, like a kitchen book coming out. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Right. Granted. Right. Aside. But I feel like everybody's a little shocked when they eat my food. And they're like, oh, wow, this is actually really good. I think that most, and this is not a slam on people. This is just a slamming on something, but not on anyone listening.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I think that there is a, how do I say this? It's like people don't know what tastes good. I don't think people understand what salt is. We are, we are, we are, most of us are engaging in decent food most of the time. Yes. And so when we have deeply flavorful food, it's like, what is this? Yeah. So yeah, salt is important using spice, like understanding some of those things that you under, yeah, you're fantastic cook.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah, I really love that about myself. Yes. Oh, I didn't know you love that about yourself. See, I'm learning things. I do. I love that. Yeah, I love feeling confident in whatever. I'm about to make.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yes. And that it's honestly, cooking is probably one of the only things where I, from the beginning of the process to the very end, I'm like, I think this is probably going to be really good. Now I do have a reputation of saying, I don't think this is going to be very good halfway through.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I have known you to literally throw out pots of food. Well, that was a special day. The day that I threw away, the sloppy Joe's. You're like, I just threw in the trash. Yeah. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Did no one else taste it? Like, it might have been fine. Well, Luke did taste it. And he was like, why did you throw away the stocky jones? They were fine. I was like, they tasted weird to me, okay? I'm very emotional. And so I will throw away something that does not meet my expectations.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Right. But that is very rare because it's food. I don't want to throw away food. Sure. You're not wasteful. No, you're not a wasteful person. But the sloppy joys were terrible. I don't care when I have any sense.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I believe you. I believe you. second thing that I think people should know about you is that you well this is this you love almond joys but what what that really is an avatar for is you love the underdog I do I love an underdog you like will purposely choose like you think about like a menu item or like a piece of clothing that's like tucked you can tell no one has seen it oh I love it I love it then you're like oh I want I want you to be seen like you love for unseen things to be like you love for unseen things to be be seen.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yes. Which is why almond joys are your favorite candy. It's so true. I mean, honestly, if almond joys had the same clout as a Snickers bar, you wouldn't love them as much. I wouldn't love them as much. And it's not because everybody likes them. Like, I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:10:06 We can all like the same things. It doesn't bother me except for something. Some things really irritated. Sure. I know. But we all have those things. No, I love almond joys. And a huge part of it is, I just feel like they're the unsung hero, you guys.
Starting point is 00:10:21 When, so my middle child, Ben and Hannah have a very special connection. They're very similar in personality. And so when I told you that Ben's favorite, Ben discovered his favorite candy bar is Oh, I cried. I cried like a baby. You literally cried tears. I cried like an actual baby. I was so thrilled.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Any time that I, any of people that I know have an almond joy and they tell me they love it, I have an emotional response. And it's for the candy bar. Right. It's for the piece of candy. I'm like, finally, someone loves it. I'm thrilled for you, almond joy. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Okay, what's something else that you want people to know about you? I make incredible playlists. You do. This is true. So the thing about my playlist that I really love is I'd like to try to capture a mood, which I think is, you know, I feel like that's a common thing in playlist making. You know, you want something to clean with or you want to, whatever. whatever, but it's like, no, I want to capture a mood in the fall with the windows down in your car.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You are driving away with a broken heart. Yes, it's so deeply specific. It's very specific. I'm trying to capture something very specific. And I think I do a great job in doing that. You do a great job. You taught me, I have an episode about how to make a playlist. And I say in that episode, all of this I learned from my sister.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Like all of this, all of this I have learned. It is, I do feel like I have been, maybe gifted. You were the Yoda. You were the, you were the, everyone is like, Kendra, you're the best making playlist. I'm like, no, no, no. I have learned. I have been taught by the Yoda of playlist. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That is literally the greatest compliment in this situation. Greatest compliment. So I, I have a third one, but two of the most like, uh, central things to you have not been said yet. And so I kind of am like, I got to, I got to hit one of them. Yeah. Well, that's funny because that's how I feel about my third one too, about myself. I'm like, what are we going to? So I had one.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I was going to say that you don't understand or care to understand sports. Like that is a place that we diverge. Oh, 100%. But that is so insignificant compared to the missing piece that no one has said yet, which is that you care deeply about feminine health and feminine bodies. You guys? So much. Like you have multiple pieces of art and jewelry that are various forms of women's bodies. then they're all beautiful.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And you wear... Of course, and I realized as I said that, you were like gonna get mad at me for saying that like it was a surprise that they were beautiful. That's an argument. But I could feel like coming
Starting point is 00:13:02 before the sentence even came out of my mouth. She's like, uh-oh, I'm gonna get a... Well, of course they are. But no, that's something that's like very part of how you live your life
Starting point is 00:13:13 and how you live in conversations. Yeah. I have a really giant uterus necklace. It's very large. Like to the point where, if you're walking away from me, you know, 15 feet, it is, it looks like a bull. Yeah, it looks like a bull. And a lot of people mistake it for a very sad bull.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And it's hilarious because when they get close to it, they're like, oh, oh, wait, I, oh, wait, I love your necklace. And my response usually nine times out of 10 is not thank you. I get overwhelmed with my own beauty of my own uterus. And I say, I love my uterus. two. And it's not just the necklace, but it's also just my, my actual uterus. Yeah, you guys, it's the thing. It's the thing. Yeah, I'm so glad I said that when it said of the sports one, because I don't know what your third one is about you, but that feels like one of the most important
Starting point is 00:14:06 things about, maybe not most important. That's not fair because I'm not going to put most on anything, but that is a, that feels like an integral part. Oh, yeah. It's a good thing to know about me. Yes, it is. It is a good thing. Before you get an, of course, you know, in a conversation. So my third thing is, you know what, this is a twofold here. I'm ready. So I'm kind of cheating. But I'm a really great time. Okay?
Starting point is 00:14:29 You are a lot of fun. Here's why I want to communicate that I have a lot of fun because a lot of times I don't think people know that I'm fun. Sure. Because I tend to have the capacity to sit in your pain. Right. And I am very empathetic. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I love to have conversations. about things that you probably don't want to talk about. When I was brainstorming my list of like, why do I want people to know about Hannah? The very first thing I wrote down is Hannah is an impasse. Yes. Hannah is an empath. Yeah, but see, just because I can sit with you in your pain
Starting point is 00:15:04 and feel your pain does not mean that I am not a great time. You are a great time. I am a great time. You can hold both of those things. I can. Yes, I can. That's an excellent two-folder exclamation point to what we know about Hannah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:16 To me, that's a pretty core. That's a very core thing. poor thing. Yes, that you're an empath, but you're also a good time. Yes. I can lay down in the pit of despair. But I can also, I would say, climb a mountain with you, but that sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:15:32 You are not an outside hiking person. No, I will throw confetti in your face. There it is. Make you feel special. Yes, exactly. Although that would be very abrasive. I just thought about how that would feel of someone like, confedicated.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Like right out of person. Okay. Okay. Let's move on to you. Okay. So my first one is. is I think that you are literally out of all the people in the entire world. Oh my gosh, I have no idea what this is.
Starting point is 00:15:58 The best driver. Oh. Okay. Y'all Hannah's so obsessed with how I drive. I love how Kendra drives. She is so balanced. She is never too slow. She is never too fast.
Starting point is 00:16:11 She values rules, right? She values the law. Y'all know how I feel about Jay Walkers. But she's also not annoying. about it to the point where she's like, I'm not going to not go like five over. I mean, really, your sweet spot is seven. This is what you told me. And I literally drive seven miles an hour over the speed limit since I was permit driving. No, you're the best driver. You're the only driver in the entire universe that I can relax in the passenger seat. There is no one else that I drive with.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And like, like my husband's a great driver. Uh-huh. And we drive places all the time. Right. I don't feel like I can let go. Uh-huh. I can let go in the passenger seat with you. I could lean my seat back.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Look at that. Yeah. I am so obsessed that that was the first thing that you left. I mean, honestly, when I was like, what is something that says? She's an incredible driver. You think I'm an incredible driver and you think cause is an incredible eater. Oh, my gosh. You love.
Starting point is 00:17:16 how cause eats. It is, it is a dance. It is an art. He doesn't make any noise. He makes no noise. It's bizarre. He never opens his mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yet his mouth is so large. It's so large that it can fit an insane amount of food in it. He can fit an entire hamburger in his mouth at one. But he literally doesn't. I know. It's weird. I don't know. I mean, it's bizarre.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I love how God eats. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. Something about me. I am. the competitive. I don't think people, there's,
Starting point is 00:17:49 there's no, there's no platform in this lazy genius space where people would know how competitive I am. I mean, you are so competitive. I'm so deeply competitive. And I also, like, it's been, it has been like an act of like spiritual formation and
Starting point is 00:18:06 self-control to not aggressively say how good at wordal I am, like publicly. Like, I'm so good at wordal. I'm so good at wordle. but I keep that to myself. I keep that to myself. You know what, Kendra?
Starting point is 00:18:20 I didn't even know that you play Wordle. Oh, I love Whirdle. Because I assumed that if you played Wordle, you would be obnoxious about it. Like, you would never be obnoxious about it to other people. Sure. But you would super duper text me because you know it wouldn't be obnoxious to me. No.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Because I'm your biggest fan. Right, right. So I would celebrate your Wordle Highs. Please send those my way. I had no idea. I have gotten more threes than I have gotten twice as many threes as I have gotten five and sixes combined. Yeah, you have. Never missed a wordle.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I love, I am. But that's my, that is my, my avatar. That's my almond joy avatar. I am very competitive. Very competitive. To the point, and I mentioned this, I feel like I mentioned this in an episode when I was talking about the boat situation a couple weeks ago, how I was excluded. I was restricted from participating as a youth group volunteer staff in a road rules youth group competition because I was too intense for the children. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:24 This is a great story. I just can't. That is, you know, so I'm very competitive. I am a great driver. I'm very competitive. I'm very competitive. Okay, my next one is a little bit maybe softer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So you are a delightful companion. Now, the reason why I use companions. I'm very intrigued by this. So you are a great time. Thank you. So fun. You have great ideas. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But one of the things that I really appreciate and love about you is your capacity to not do anything alongside someone else and it still be very meaningful and fun. Like you're able to hold companionable silence really well. Like you don't force things, you don't force words into a situation. you don't force activities on to a person. You're just a delightful companion. You're up for whatever. But at the same time, if you...
Starting point is 00:20:22 For outdoor things. I mean, yes. I'm excluding that from the narrative because neither of us are interested in that. But what I'm saying is that you will create a plan if the person needs it. You will take charge. You will be a leader about that. But if they don't need that, you know, you have no ego. You're a great companion.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Thank you. That is so nice. That is really kind. I received those. I receive those words. My second thing is I, this kind of goes into nature, but it's really more, I am afraid, deeply afraid of heights, of expanse, and of most nature things. Yes. I am very fearful about the natural earth. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, I love the sky. That's the one, which seems strange. strange because that's the most expansive thing that we experience as human beings. It is. And I love a sky, like any sort of sky. Like even like aggressive cloud skies, I love a good sky or a bad sky. I don't like most other things. Like we have talked about taking our family to do like a Pacific Northwest, you know, West Coast sort of situation in a summer for a few weeks at some point with the kids. And he's like, yeah, I want to go see the Redwoods. And I'm like, I'm terrified to see the Redwoods. Those are some giant trees. They're so huge. I don't think my brain is going to function.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And they're so tall. And like, so, yeah, I don't like anything expansive. I don't like super tall things. I don't like to be up high. And most animals, I really could take her leave. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a nature person. Yeah. You're just very much not that. And it's because I'm afraid. It's not like I'm like, I'm like, birds are terrifying. Whenever we go to the science center and those Peacocks are just walking around willy-nilly, like outside of a cage. Those are terrifying. Terrifying. I saw one of them.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Don't tell me. Really? Attack a kindergartner. Stop it. Yep. No more. The teacher had to literally sacrifice her life. I mean, maybe not her life.
Starting point is 00:22:27 But honestly. Was it the albino peacock or the blue one? The albino was a little bit more elusive. Okay. And I feel like it's a little bit more chill. Yeah. But I have seen the albino charge. I'm just not.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Anything that charges. I mean, they're very territorial. No, thank you. And then they get their plumes up. Right. But that's when they get really aggressive. But like little baby kids don't know that. They're like, that's a welcome sign.
Starting point is 00:22:52 They're just like, oh my gosh, it wants to be my friend. And then they get pecked in the face because they're on the same eye level of the peacock. See, just all. I can't. I don't like nature. I can't with peacocks. I don't like nature. Just in general.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Okay, what's the last thing? So it's a superpower of yours. Oh, I'm so excited. You. Okay. I don't want to be one of those people, but I'm about to be one of those people. That's like, Kendra, I think you should write a book about this. But here's what I think you need to write a book about.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Oh my gosh, because I need another book idea. You need a dictionary of term, like terminology that you can explain. You have a superpower of explaining things, especially to tiny children or tiny sisters who have big questions. and explaining it in such a thoughtful but concise way. Yeah. I mean, it is unbelievable. Like sometimes I'll hear, you know, one of the kids ask you something. Like, what does something mean?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Kiki, what is regret? And you will be able. It's when you're sad about something that happened in the past. Yeah. Yeah. That you wish you hadn't done. Yeah. It's always there.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You always have an answer. And I just feel like you need to have a dictionary. Gosh, that would actually be a really fun book to write. I mean, it's the way I explain sports. It's the way I explain. Yeah, I really love to make. You condense words. I condense words.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And you don't waste a word. And you can't waste a word particularly with tiny sisters or tiny children. Yeah. And so I think that that is that is direction. I receive that. And that's actually very affirming because I sort of forget that that's a superpower. But I've got. Oh, people can't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. Like us normals cannot do that. I remember, I wish I could remember the specific word, but I remember being at your house and Amy asked you like, Mommy, what is this word mean? And you were like, you struggled. Like, I really struggled. And I didn't want to like, I didn't want to swoop in. I didn't want to just, because that's something about me that is true is that I'm a fixer
Starting point is 00:25:01 and I am a problem solver. But I don't always have to. You know, like just because you can inject yourself into a situation doesn't mean you should. Exactly. And so I really try and pay attention to that. Like I don't do that unless I'm asked explicitly. And you were like, can you help me? And I said the thing.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And I felt, I was like, gosh, I can, I'm really good at this. You're so good at it. So thank you for that because I kind of forgot about that. That's very affirming. What a great, gosh, what a fun book that would be to write. And design. I feel like the design would be very cool. That would be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Okay. So the last thing that I will, that I think people should know about me. gosh, because I have like a couple. I think I'm going to say, okay, I think I'm going to say that I think people should know that I'm an enigram one, but that I get a little annoyed when people are surprised by that. That's super fair. Because people think that, because it's more about I care about the anyagram one community and how people don't think that anygram ones can be fun or funny or relaxed about things.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yep. And I have two episodes about the Enneagram, you guys. It is not a memeifiable thing. It is not something that can just be like condensed into ones or this, twos are this, threes are this. It can be like your gateway or whatever, but there is so much nuance to it. And also personality is a construct.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So all of it we can just sort of like not rely on as our identity anyway. But yeah, I get a little bit, I'm proud of being an enneagram one. But I get a little bit, I have to like do some personal work. to not be frustrated with a person who's surprised by that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think, I don't know if you feel this way, but I think some types get more of a bad rap than other types. No one talks about ones and a good one and force.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I don't think people talk about fours in a good way. I mean, I actually read an article, I think it was Richard Roar, that said that eneagram fours are just the most slighted type because they are, there's most of the descriptions that you read. even in like the the big textbooky type aneogram books yeah they have nothing positive to say yeah and it it was actually very doubt validating because i was like oh well thank you yeah thank you father roar yes thank you father roar so anyway so that's i don't that feels like a sad one to end on but it's
Starting point is 00:27:27 more like i am a proud enneagram one and i am a proud enneagram for there it is let's do this okay so our next we're not sad all the time even though the word i chose you to deprable you to fine was regret. I do love that that was the first word that you chose. But I laughed about it. It's fine. We'll be right back. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one.
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Starting point is 00:28:56 I'm going to just say this or that. And I don't know. I don't know all the things that you're, I don't know your answers. I'm always fascinated by this kind of thing. Yeah, there, there was a few that I felt the same way about you. I'm excited. So I'm going to read it and we'll both answer. Okay. Are you answering first or me? Um, you can answer first. Okay. Summer or fall? fall it's because of the pool it's because of the pool last summer was our first pool summer and it was like the most magical thing ever
Starting point is 00:29:24 we turned into pool people all of a sudden you guys it's so weird I've always hated summer with a passion I know and then the pool makes a big difference the pool is the thing but I'm with you that's my exact answer fall because it feels like because I love fall
Starting point is 00:29:39 I love fall but summer summer slaps I know right pens or pencils Pens. Really? Pens. I'm a strong pen. Penn. Strong pen.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Well, you know, I'm kind of surprised at my hesitance there. Yeah. I don't remember the last time I picked up a pencil. But pencils, it's because they're the forgotten. They're romantic. They're the underdog. That's why you want to. I'm like, but I can carve you into a point.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, that's it. That tracks. Okay. Flowers or chocolate? Flowers. Chocolates. Oh, but not get. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:14 It's not because I want to be given either. Okay. I like flowers. You do like flowers. Because I like to arrange flowers. You're a good flower arrangement. That is something else that people don't know about you. But I do not like chocolate.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Especially with peanut butter. You guys. I don't understand the Reese's phenomenon. Like, I just don't get it. Anytime someone's like, the best snack is a spoonful of peanut butter with a few chips of chocolate tips on there and I'm like you're a serial killer I don't understand it's so funny it's so funny okay um chocolates for me okay I like both but I I'm also kind of picky about chocolates I don't like like a box of chocolates no it I like dark chocolate okay so if you give me like a bark
Starting point is 00:31:03 of of a bark of no work it out you got it no a bar a bar a bar a bar a bar of dark chocolate If like 80% cacao or whatever. I mean, I can go for a truffle. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's probably a good chocolate for you as truffles. Yeah, I like truffles. I also like spicy truffles, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:25 You're just not a dessert person just in general, right? No. You don't really do sweet things. Okay, Valentine's Day or Fourth of July? Ugh, neither. I, this was like, I put this on here because I wanted to see which, like, cultural forced holiday you would have to be. and I love that you just snort it and said neither.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I'm so sorry. I actually don't mind. I do have, you know, I have a tricky relationship with our country right now. But I actually do, I do like Fourth of July. I do. I like Fourth of July, fine. I am afraid of loud sounds. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So fireworks are just like not your jam. Yeah. I have so much anxiety. Aside from my issue. Sure. It's fine. I just really, I'm really afraid of firework. That's right. I'm convinced that I am going, the way that I'm leaving this world is going to be in a very long white night gown.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Oh, wow. Al-Birtha. Okay. In J-Nair. I will be trapped in an attic. Okay. And the house will be on fire. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And things are exploding. But I did not set that fire, okay. Sure. It's fine. Not birth. Justice for Bertha. Justice for Bertha. But yeah, I just, I don't know, I'm really afraid of fire.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Sparklers, how do they not set everything on fire? And then you let the kids hold them. Well, there's a handle. But they could hold, they could stick them in their belly button or something. I don't know. Maybe my kids are weird, but like. I think you have bigger problems if your kids are sticking sparklers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I'm just like, I just, the Fourth of July just makes me very nervous. I did not know this. This is really good to know. And then people drive in inibriated. They do drive in inibriated. And there are fireworks like late at night. It's true. Maybe I'm questioning much.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I just, I feel weird about trucks too. Trucks really scare me on the road. And I feel like everybody drives a truck on Fourth of July. Is there like a rental service? Like people can just like rent a Dodge Ram. Like I just, I don't enjoy Fourth of July. I'm sorry. I'm very passionate with that I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I haven't even gotten started on how much I hate about on. We'll just move on. We'll just move on to the next one. I put this one in here because it wouldn't, it probably wouldn't be in our three things about each other but they still feel very important James McAvoy or Michael Fassbender of course and McAvoy's mine like that's our that was just that was a that was a that was a Gimmie that was a slow pitch very but just so people know but such a beautiful pitch yes it is Fassie is your yours McAvoy is mine okay horror or comedy I I guess comedy oh I guess like you
Starting point is 00:34:07 don't care about either I think I lean okay here's a thing. I'm one of those people that's like, I want to watch a really scary movie. Sure. And then I look at all the scary movie posters. And I go, I could never do this. No, you can't do anything. I want to be. What about books? What about a horror book or a comedy book? Oh, horror. 100%. Yes. Yeah, I'm a comedy, a visual comedy, a reading horror. Perfect. There it is. Same. Phone call or text. Phone call. You guys. We, Hannah and I are trying to normalize the phone call again on our phone. On our phones.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I called her a couple days ago, just to chat. And we're getting in the habit of not being like, is everything okay? Is everything okay? Did you get in a wreck? Okay. Tacos or pizza? Tacos. Pizza.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Actually, pizza. Really? Pizza. Pizza. Yeah. Pizza. Pizza. A good homemade pizza.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Or a good, like a cougina. See, I think the reason why I said pizza is because tacos are easier for me to eat. because I can't have the glutton and I can't have the shows. Right. And so pizza's problematic. It is, but it's like my favorite food. But I am, I am able to eat dabble in the dairy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Okay. So, yeah. I'm working my way up. Facebook or Twitter? I mean, Twitter for sure, but I just don't get on Twitter. So this feels false for me. Right. This is incongruent for you.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, I don't feel authentic. Same for me. I don't use either. But I would choose, if I had to choose one, I would choose Twitter. Oh, absolutely. Facebook is the worst. Music or podcasts? Music. Same.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Except listen to this a podcast, everyone. Oh, yeah, for sure. Thank you so much. Except for this episode. Big party or small gathering? Small gathering. Same. New clothes or new phone?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Close. No. Phone. No. I don't know. I don't know because I need a new phone. And so I think. Oh, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It's like the, yeah. My phone's like, it doesn't hold a battery anymore. You know how they do that? That's the shame. It's so stupid. Or it's like, we can't download that app anymore because your phone is old. Yeah, exactly. But see, I like the whole new clothes idea because I also need some new clothes.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Sure. And it's so fun to get new clothes. It's so fun. But I don't like to shop. See, this is the thing that I love about online shopping is that you can just try things, but you don't have to go anywhere. It's true. And so I kind of do like getting new clothes now, whereas I used to absolutely hate it.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yes. I think I'm going to go new phone. just because I use my phone so much. I'm going to go to a new phone too. Okay. Laundry or dishes? Laundry. Dishes.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Bath or shower? Shower. Shower. Just not as, I hate, still hate both. I hate having to clean myself. I take at least two and a half showers a day. This is where we diverge greatly. Do you know that I asked for a new shower head for my birthday?
Starting point is 00:37:05 No. Then the shower head, because I wanted one of those like really cool, like, really cool, like, rainfall-ish ones, you know. And then our water bill went up $30 because I take so many showers. And because it was using so much water, I had to go back to my old showerhead. Oh, that's really sad. This is so sad. You shouldn't do this.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I was like, honey, this is $30. Also, how deeply wasteful is this? No. And I'm not willing to not take two and a half shower. Two and a half showers day. Yeah. I want to come back in another episode of what a half shower means, but that's fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Cachier or self-checkout? Self-checkout. Same. But cashiers do love you. Passenger or driver? Depends on who's driving, as we learned earlier. If it's you, I am passenger all the way. Normally I like to drive more, though.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yes, I like, I'm a driver. Movie popcorn or carnival funnel cake. Oh, funnel cake. Yeah, same. Hot coffee or ice coffee? I'm going to say ice coffee just because I tend to gravitate to that more months out of the year. But I would say I prefer some more practical choice. Yes, but I prefer the ritual of the hot coffee.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, I'm very much hot coffee. I like iced, but hot's my choice. Board game or video game? Video game. Board game. I hate video games. I don't understand them at all. Trivia night or game night?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like board game night. A trivia night or a board game night? Oh, trivia night. You are very good at trivia nights. I think I would say Trivianite. It's so fun. Trivianite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Appetizer or dessert? Apetizer. Desert. Coke or LeCroix? Because I love a good Coke, man. Yeah. I hate LaCroix. By default, it has to be Coke.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I'm going to go Coke. Cake or pie? Pie. Pie. You guys. Pie is so much superior. I feel like people who don't like pie haven't had good pie. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Good pie? That's the best. There's nothing better than a good pie. Nothing better than a good pie. I mean, I dislike. I would go so far to say as I dislike desserts in general. Yes, I think that's true. I will prefer to not have one.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yes. Pie though? A good pie is on the table. I will risk anything to have a slice. Gosh. We need. And I have to risk. I have a lot of dietary issues.
Starting point is 00:39:27 So many, you guys. Movie or book? Book. Same. Beat your mountains. Oh, this one's really hard for me. For real. Same.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Because I, there is, I guess it depends on the mountains. Okay. So I lived in Alaska for a time. I feel like that sort of like of, duh. I'm going to pick those mountains. But if it's like, this is where it gets hard. Is it North Carolina mountains or North Carolina Beach? Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:56 That's where it gets fuzzy for me. Okay. I see. Because I love what they both bring. They do. But see, I don't like. Just say North Carolina. We like North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:40:05 We just like North Carolina. We're just going to keep them both. We're a fan of our state. There we go. Morning person or night owl. I'm one of those people that I can be both. Right. I think my preference if I had no consequences would be a night owl.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Same, same. I would be more of a night owl if I didn't have children. Exactly. Kristen wig or Maya Rudolph. This feels like I'm cutting off an arm. Mine's easy. Really? It is.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's Maya. It's Maya. Yeah, it's easily Maya. I just, I want all good things for her. I want her to bring comedy into my life for the rest of my life. I love Maya. I love Kristen Wake too, but it's like easy for me. Yeah, I think, I think I would go Maya as well.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Okay. Polish or pressons? Prash on. Polish. Narnia or Middle Earth? Middle Earth. If Aragorn's there, I'll say Middle Earth. Well, of course he's there.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He's always there. He has returned. If he's not there, I might like. In the Hobbit days, I would pick Narnia. Also, do you remember how good Peter Dinklage is as Trumpkin in Prince Caspian and Voyage of the Darn Treadder and the new ones? Do you remember that? He's spectacular as Trumpkin. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:41:20 See, I haven't seen the new ones in so long. I encourage you to revisit them and see how spectacular Peter Dinklage is in those movies. Okay. And finally, Captain America or The Field. What is the field? Everyone else. So like, for example, oh my gosh, I love this that I get to explain this to you. So this is kind of a almost like betting terminology.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Oh, okay. So if you are, you will hear this question asked, say it at the beginning of a golf tournament. Like when Tiger Woods was playing and he was at the peak of his powers, you know who Tiger Woods is. Of course I do. Just making sure you were looking. Your facial expression did not change. So I was just making sure. He cheated on Ellen.
Starting point is 00:42:00 He did. Yes, I know who he is. I know who he is. I love that that's the part that you know. about him is his marital problems. So he, people will say, do you take Tiger Woods or do you take the field? Do you think Tiger Woods is going to win or anybody else? Okay, this makes a lot more sense because I've heard this terminology before and I'm like, what field? What's talking about? Why is this field so special? Does it have daffodils? Is it just mode graph? Like, what is going on? The reason I
Starting point is 00:42:27 ask this is because we both genuinely love Captain America. It's kind of like, would you choose Captain America to the exclusion of all the others? Or would you dismiss or would you get rid of Captain America and keep the field? Oh, so you couldn't keep Captain America. I'm going to say that. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to posit that question this way. Oh, wow. That's really challenging. Because I think I have more of an emotional connection to Captain America because of the journey because I disliked him so greatly. In the beginning. In the beginning. I know. But then I grew to love him. Whereas all the other ones, while the other ones, I like immediately loved off the bat.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, and then they kind of stayed the same. And then they stayed the same. There was no journey. But with Captain America, there's a bit of a journey. And for me, that feels like more of an underdog story. Look at you. You know? So you're choosing Captain America.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Man, I don't know, maybe. Have you seen Black Widow yet? No. So good. Okay, we have just a couple minutes left. And as we, thank you for playing this or that with us, everyone. As we sort of close, one thing that we wanted to kind of bring to your attention was what we kind of
Starting point is 00:43:32 fondly call homeschool lunchtime because we were both homeschooled for a stretch of years like together three three years maybe something like it was like when I was an eighth ninth and tenth grade and what that would that have been for you that was a we lost you were we lost you were like little little first half of elementary school but we would learn history together but then we would have like different assignments so we would and then we would convene yes for the homeschool lunchtime we would have homeschool lunchtime where we would get to watch a VHS tape that we got from the library We watched a lot of Alfred Hitchcock. We watched a lot of, a lot of, um, arsenic and old lace.
Starting point is 00:44:07 A lot of I love Lucy. A lot of I love Lucy. A lot of old BBC Narnia. Like we just had our things. And so we, during our lunch. And we talk about, which you will, you know if you have been listening to the Lacey sisters in the past. And you will continue to know as you listen to us talk in the future, that there is, um, an,
Starting point is 00:44:28 an undercurrent of deep pop culture appreciation. Mm-hmm. There's an undercurrent of like food, but like experiences around food. Mm-hmm. And then a lot of our own language with each other really truly originated. I think homeschool lunchtime is when we started to like each other. Yes. Because we didn't always.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Correct. So that gives hope for those of you who have daughters who might not enjoy each other right now. Yeah. Give it time. Just give them a bowl of macaroni and warm ketchup and see what happens. You guys. There is an art. making macaroni and ketchup. We ate it a lot. There is a right and a wrong way. There is.
Starting point is 00:45:09 It's a delightful meal. Don't knock it. We didn't have a lot of money for a while. It's all fine. But yeah, we would, we had homeschool lunchtime. And that sort of, that feels like our origin story. Yes. So we wanted to kind of pop that vernacular into the end of this episode because there will be times. We will hearken back. We will hearken back to homeschool lunchtime adjacent things. We will also end every episode with a quick, what's saving your life right now. What's saving your life right now, Hannah? Honestly, my press on. Your pressons.
Starting point is 00:45:44 My pressons. Okay, so I got the Olive and June pressons. Yes. I was very skeptical because I am very scared of glue. Okay. I didn't know that, but that feels right. You guys, I'm terrified of glue. It's too permanent.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's so permanent. It's so like, yeah, that makes sense. Okay. And I've had a few close calls with the press on glue. Okay. We've worked through it. Yeah. It is very strong.
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's very, I mean, it's like super glue. It does its job. But here's the thing that I really like about the pressons is that I have really pretty nails. Okay. Oh, yeah, you do. But they, I like to wear them when my nails are going through their funky time. Yes. Which occasionally I will have nail funky time where they just break all the time or they are peeling all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:30 It's like a weather change. There's something that's just making the nails go like, hey, we need a break. And I, but I want to have long nails. Yes. And I want to have nails where it's not chipping all of the time. And that's where the press on comes in and I really like it. Love it. So it's just, you're able to look down and go, look at that.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah. I mean, I put these on nine days ago. And they're not even close to coming off. No. They've lasted a really long time. Yeah, they're great. The first time I did it, they popped off soon. But it's because I put too much glue on.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Oh. And they're very clear about that in the instruction. Yes, they are. Less is more, but I was afraid of the glue and I was afraid to spread it out. So that's why I was like, I'm just going to do a big dollop because I didn't want to risk it getting on my skin. Right. But when I actually followed their instructions to the tea, I mean, nine days still going strong. So amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Go all in June. My thing that's saving my life right now, and I was trying to come up with something different, but I just did an episode a couple weeks ago on like a bunch of things that are saving my life. And I just need to continue to reiterate this planner that I have. And my, I mentioned this for the first time in that last episode, my mild liners, which I just gave you to try before we began recording. They are a delight. They're a delight. They're a delight.
Starting point is 00:47:47 They're so fun to use. They're such great colors. Like I'm just. They're just, I love, they're not abrasive. No, they're very mild. They're so mild. But you can see them still. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 It's not like you're painting with like, you know, what's the ink? Invisible ink. You know, sometimes when you, you know, we want to see our thing. Yeah. It draws your eye, but not in an obnoxious way. They're not obnoxious at all. They're so chill. They're just like a good time.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And I really like that there is the option of having the fine line and then the double tip, man. Double tip, man. I know. So it really is, because right now is, I feel like I've been saying that my life is busy for a million years. Yes, you have. But it is because. But to be fair, your life has been busy for about a million years. It has been, especially in the last six to eight months.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You know, like I think about last summer, I expanded my team, you know, like some learning new work things. We started, we were working on this really cool project that I had to go out of town for for the Lacey Genius Kitchen, which we'll start to actually, we will be able to share in about a month or so, which is super fun. And then all the things for the Lazy Genius Kitchen. not to mention the whole pivot because of the books. The books in the ocean situation.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So it has been a bit busy. And if I didn't, like truly, if I did not have this planner, if I was trying to like still bullet journal the things in a way or using like a planner that hadn't really worked for me before, I think I would be so much more stressed. This planner, which you can't get the dated version anymore because they just, once you get a couple months into a year of a dated planner, they just don't make it available really.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I was able to get mine last month. Yeah. But it's the smaller. It's a smaller one. It's not the big one. I'm attempting to buy 2023 just to have it. Yeah. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. Decide to stop making it because I love it so much. Yeah. I mean, I plan on getting the big one because I've, I've never really been able to use a planner and keep up with it. And I have been using this planner regularly. Why is it so magical?
Starting point is 00:49:48 I don't know. It's the Molescan Weekly Pro. It just makes sense. It makes sense. It's so great. I don't know. It's great. It's great.
Starting point is 00:49:55 So, but yeah, It truly is. Like I wouldn't, I would not be surviving in, in the way that I am without this planner and without my, my pilot G2 38.38s and my mildliners. There you go. I just love them so much. There you go.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Well, thank you guys for listening to this episode of the lazy genius podcast. Hannah, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited for the next time we get to do this. I know. I hope that you guys enjoyed getting to know Hannah for the first time. if it's the first time and also to learn that I am a good driver and can define the word regret for your children.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Absolutely. Absolutely. Thanks for listening. And until next time, be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. I'm Kendra. I'll see you next week. Have you ever felt like you were living just a B or B plus life?
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