The Liz Moody Podcast - Optimization Culture Is Killing Us—THIS Is The Real Secret To Health & Happiness

Starting point is 00:00:00 I had a year of not drinking, decided to have a drink again. It ruined three days of my life. I had a couple of glasses of wine, didn't get drunk. It ruined three days of my life because of the domino effect it caused. We are the most optimized, the most tracked, the most focused on wellness generation that there has ever been in history. We are tracking our HRV. We are taking all of these supplements.

Starting point is 00:00:22 We're taking all these blood tests. We are diving into our microbiome. So why do so many of us feel so. so bad. A famous podcaster recently talked about how he had three glasses of wine and he felt terrible for days. I have friends who have stopped traveling because they're afraid of not being able to get a good night sleep. They don't have their white noise machine. They don't have their eight sleep. Meanwhile, we're maxing everything. We are looks maxing. We are sleep maxing. We are fiber maxing. We're doing everything to an extreme and there are some pretty interesting reasons for

Starting point is 00:00:54 that that we are going to get into. Today on the podcast, I'm going to talk about why optimization culture is harming us so much, my personal experience with it. And most importantly, I'm going to talk about the single thing that we should be doing instead, which I have not heard be part of the discussion at all. Welcome to the Liz Moody podcast where we believe that there is always something that you can do to create a life that feels amazing. And we help you figure out how to find the lever to pull at any moment to actually do that. I do not think that many of us just wake up one day and we're like, I want to opt

Starting point is 00:01:29 optimize my sleep score or I want to develop a 20-part supplement routine. No, we want to feel good. We don't feel good and we go searching for ways to feel better. I know this because I lived it. My journey to taking care of my body and my brain in any way came from having agoraphobia and having panic attacks whenever I got out of bed and feeling so uncomfortable in my brain and in my body that I truly did not want to live anymore. And that, from that place, that is when I discovered, oh, the foods that we eat impact how we feel. Oh, the movement that we do impacts how we feel, how we structure our days impacts how we feel. But optimization culture is not solving problems. It's not making us feel good. It is making us stressed. It is making us stressed. It is

Starting point is 00:02:25 telling us a story that we are breakable with the tiniest inconvenience. It is taking us away from our friends, from the relationships that are important to us. And nobody is talking about this, but optimization culture has a uniquely negative impact on women. When we have information, we feel like we need to action that information. When we're given parenting advice about what will make our kids more successful or happier in life, we feel like we are bad parents if we do not act on that advice. When we are told what the best workout routine is, we feel like we're failing if we do a less than workout routine. When people are given all of the information and told that they need to be the best possible version of themselves at home, at play, at work,

Starting point is 00:03:12 they try to do that. That is just how we are wired. And we end up burnt out. And here's where it gets really awful in a sneaky way. We live in a culture where we live in a culture where we we uniquely tell burnt-out women just to opt-out. You do not see burnt-out men being just told that they should quit the workforce and go live a slow life. You don't see the rise of a trad-husband culture. But for women, we present as a solution, hey, you're burnt out, you're exhausted, you're trying to optimize everything to death. Just quit. The solution is to quit. And when we tell large swaths of women that the answer to their burnout problem is to drop out of roles that make them money, that get them power, we end up with women taking huge steps backwards in society.

Starting point is 00:04:03 Optimization culture is not all, but it's a really big part of the conversation about how and why women are losing power. And that is why what we're talking about today is not frivolous. It's a deeply important thing that has real consequences that we need to be to be. talking about. How we got here, I think, is four-pronged, and it kind of crept up over time in a little bit of an insidious way. The first thing is social media. I think people don't realize how these algorithms really work and how they completely change what cultural conversations are being had at any given moment. Way back in the print magazine days, essentially the magazines had to get you to subscribe to them or to buy them on the newsstands by being consistently at a certain level of

Starting point is 00:04:47 quality over time, and then also having grabby headlines, but just on the cover of the magazine. When online media came out and sort of took over the print media world, you saw this uptick in constantly needing new things to talk about and in soliciting emotional responses. Because instead of having subscribers who are basically going to see your magazine, no matter what, you had to get your readers attention for every unique article every single time. And the thing that gets attention is emotion. So you see this uptick in rage bait and clickbait and headlines that are designed to emotionally manipulate you to get these clicks because these clicks get the ad dollars which fund the site.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Social media perpetuated this even further. The algorithms are designed to keep people in these apps as long as possible. People stay in the apps the longest when their attention is being held. So the algorithms incentivize even stronger emotions. And also now, instead of there being just like a few print magazines, maybe a few dozen print magazines out there, and then a little bit more in terms of online media, there are tens of thousands of content creators.

Starting point is 00:05:58 And they are all trying to break through and grab our attention. And the downstream effect of that that I do not see enough people talking about is that there really aren't enough things to naturally fill that many posts a day. that many content creators. At a certain point, you have to manufacture them. And this leads to this over-the-top optimization culture. Most of the people sharing this information know that you do not need a 20-step morning routine.

Starting point is 00:06:28 You do not need all this crazy skincare. You don't need to do all of this stuff. But the algorithm demands new stuff to talk about. So they get increasingly granular. They get increasingly specific. Which leads to us normal people feeling like we have to do all of these things. to be quote unquote well. The second thing is another facet of capitalism,

Starting point is 00:06:48 ah, capitalism, which is that we identify very real problems like menopause is a real problem, women having horrible period pain is a real problem, and then capitalism gets a hold of it. And instead of there being one or two really great research-back solutions, everybody sees the opportunity. All of a sudden, there are thousands of things that you can buy that will help you with your symptoms,

Starting point is 00:07:11 and there are thousands of influencers and creators selling you those things, which leads to people who might not have identified that as a problem in their lives, suddenly being bombarded by content that says it is a problem, which makes them think that maybe it's a problem. And then the third thing that I kind of talked about at the beginning, which is that we are increasingly feeling less well when we wake up every day and we feel sad or we feel low energy or we feel like our gut isn't working well. And we go to the doctor and we get six minutes of time with that person. And they tell us that we're stressed and they don't give us any real solutions.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Of course, we're seeking out answers elsewhere. There's a real need, but it's almost like a snake eating itself because the way that we are treating the need is actually making us sicker. There's real research that shows that fixating on our symptoms makes them worse. So when we seek out more treatments, it ends up. up being this vicious cycle. And then last, but certainly not least, as the world, as a whole, feels increasingly scary and increasingly outside of our control, we turn that control inward. We feel like, okay, I can't control the state of the economy or what the government is choosing

Starting point is 00:08:27 to do moment to moment or conflicts that are happening around the world. But I can control my habits, my routines, my body. That makes us feel safer in a world. that increasingly feels unsafe. And not all of these things are problematic unto themselves. I certainly think that social media algorithms are problematic. I think that late stage capitalism is problematic. But our innate desire to feel better, to live better is actually a really beautiful part of being a human being. We deserve to feel well, which is why I do this podcast. there is information out there that can help a lot of people. And I think there are ways of thinking about things that can help a lot of people.

Starting point is 00:09:15 And I really, really try as much as possible within my power not to sit in that space of hyper-optimizing that last 1% in a way that just stresses us out and does not get us any benefits. Instead, I really try to give you real solutions to your actual problems or new ways of thinking about things so that you can feel as good as possible every single day. And I do think that's one huge thing that has been lost, which is the why of it all. Like, what am I optimizing for in the first place? It's ostensibly for two pretty concrete reasons. One is to live as long as we can, and two is to enjoy our time alive as much as possible. And that second reason is what I think that

Starting point is 00:10:03 we're losing right now. When you feel like having one wrong food or one glass of wine or one deviation from your routine makes your life blow up, you are not enabling yourself to enjoy your time as much as possible. When you are not spending time with friends because you're trying to get your workout in or you're trying to get your meal prep in or you're trying to get your meditation in, you're not enjoying your time as much as possible. I have interviewed literally hundreds of the world's top doctors and experts. I have read thousands of books. I read four to five books every week when I'm trying to decide who to have on the podcast or to prep for podcast episodes. And in all of that, there are two primary things that almost all of the experts agree are the really big problems

Starting point is 00:10:47 that are genuinely contributing incredibly negatively to our health these days. And those are stress and our lack of social connection. Which does not mean that on this podcast, I'm not going to explore things like GLP-1s and how the foods that we eat make us feel and how to use certain protocols to achieve certain goals in our lives. Again, I think we can talk about all of those things. And when we are approaching those things in a way that is increasing our stress or decreasing our social connection, it is counterproductive to feeling good and living a long time, which are ostensibly, again, the two primary goals that we have here. So what should we do instead of optimizing everything?

Starting point is 00:11:33 The core thing I feel like if you teased down answer to that question from every episode of this podcast that I have ever done is to build resilience. Instead of adding and adding and adding to the list of foods that we can't eat and the things that we must include in our routines, we want to build our general resilience so that we are able to have great routines and habits that support us. And if we deviate from those, if we go out with a lot, our friends. If we miss our morning routines, we do not crumble and fall apart. And resilience is going to help us live longer because it decreases our stress and it lets us have the social

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Starting point is 00:12:52 coming down the line and identifying things that might not be making you feel as good as you could be feeling right now, which is why I got so excited when I heard about rhythm. This is a home blood work test with zero pain. It feels genuinely too good to be true, but it is real. So I'm going to walk you through how this works because I was so nervous about it. They send you like a little envelope. And in it, there's something that looks kind of like a continuous glucose monitor, if you've seen that. And you put that on your arm and you press a button and it takes the tiniest vial of blood. And I was like, There's this guy in the video and he's like, this doesn't hurt at all. And I was like, there is no way that this does not hurt, sir. But then I did it. You push the button. And actually, it genuinely did not hurt

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Starting point is 00:20:12 health and happiness in the long run. Optimization culture says that you are fragile. It says that if you forget your white noise machine on vacation, you're not going to sleep. You are not fragile. You are strong and the people who have convinced you that you're fragile are not doing you any favors. There are a few steps to really building in that anti-fragility that I want to highlight. Again, not because I want to add to our to do list. These are not things to add to a list, but there are more ways to reframe the things that you're already doing so you can recognize how strong you already are. The first thing and probably the biggest thing is to change your relationship with stress itself. Aaliyah Krum is a Stanford researcher and she's done a number of different studies that

Starting point is 00:20:54 essentially showed that the way that we think about something changes not only how we feel about it, our psychology, but it changes our literal physical reaction to it. So if we believe food is high calorie and indulgent, our hunger hormone, literally drop more than if we're told something is healthy, even if it is, in fact, the very same drink. And she found in her research that if we view stress as debilitating, we are far more likely to experience increased cortisol, less than productivity, and just far more negative outcomes than if we believe stress is enhancing us or making us sharper. So that would be step one. If something feels a little hard, if you feel a little stressed, change your perspective on it,

Starting point is 00:21:38 view it as something that is not having this negative impact on you, that's not breaking your fragile self, but as something that's enhancing you and then know that there's going to be this real physiological effect of changing your mindset around that. The second thing is to lean into discomfort. It comes up over and over and over on the podcast that our inability to handle discomfort is hurting us physically, it's hurting us emotionally, it's hurting us socially. Whenever you, you see the opportunity to lean into a little bit of discomfort, whether it's carrying heavy bags home from the grocery store or doing a chore that you don't want to do or not reaching for your phone when you want to reach for your phone or having a hard conversation that you do not want to

Starting point is 00:22:23 have. View that as a positive thing. View that as something that is making you less fragile and know that it's going to have these downstream effects on your sense of your fragility generally. Third, is to recognize when the measurements that you're taking are hurting you versus helping you. If your sleep tracking is making your sleep worse, please, for the love of God, stop tracking your sleep. If following a bunch of perimenopause accounts is making you find symptoms that you were not noticing or plagued by otherwise, stop following those accounts. I personally, I view it this way. I like to approach metrics in three ways. So twice a year, I get a baseline measurement of my health. I will do blood tests and I'll just see the general state of my health, which can show me if

Starting point is 00:23:13 there's anything I really need to address that springs up. The second thing that I like to do is I will look at metrics to see if something like an intervention that I'm doing is actually working for me because we are all unique and I want to add habits to my life that are actually making a difference. So if I'm doing something for my sleep routine, I might track my sleep. before and after to see if that thing, that supplement, that routine, or whatever, is actually working. And then I will pay less attention after that. And then the last way that I'll use metrics is if I'm trying to get to the bottom of something. So if I'm having gut issues, I might look into microbiome testing. But if I'm not, I'm probably not going to do that. We increasingly live in a

Starting point is 00:23:54 time where information is going to be so abundant that we need to start to be more discerning about what information we obtain because we're going to feel the need to engage with anything that we obtain. At certain points, all of that information that we feel the need to action can do much more harm than good. Okay, fourth action step, social connection is just the most important thing. It comes up in every research study. It comes up in every podcast. If you are doing something and it is taking you away from having social connection, I would really ask, whether that thing is net positive for your health, period. Fifth, practice deviating from your routine on purpose.

Starting point is 00:24:39 So skip your morning routine for a day, skip your workout routine, eat stuff that you wouldn't normally eat, eat a bowl of fruity pebbles. The point is to build proof points that you can do things that are not perfectly healthy and you will be okay. Sometimes you might even feel better. I know I do when I have my occasional fruity pebbles. I had the ones with marshmallows in them the other day. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:25:03 They were so good. And then the last thing, something that I talk about in my books and I talk about on this podcast all the time is to always, always, always come back to your why. I think for most of us, that why is to live as long as possible and feel as good as possible in that time. Feeling as good as possible can include if you have symptoms figuring out a way to manage them, figuring out their root cause. But it probably does not include needlessly stacking things into your life just because

Starting point is 00:25:35 somebody with a podcast or a book or the internet told you to. I can promise you that in a sea of health and wellness podcast, I am trying to keep all of these things in mind constantly. I'm trying to give you the information that you need to solve real problems without needlessly adding stuff to your plate. I'm trying to help you think about your life in a way that will help you live. longer and feel better during that time. And I'm trying to have fun here too because I also recognize that the time that we spend together on this podcast should not feel like a tour where you're

Starting point is 00:26:09 like frantically taking notes. You're like, oh my God, I got to go do my homework and listen to Liz Moody podcast. We should be laughing. We should be enjoying ourselves. I think that treating all of this stuff like it's too serious adds to this layer of stress around all of it. So I'm so curious what you guys think. If you've noticed this optimization culture creeping up in the wellness world, if you think there are different reasons for it than the ones I said or different solutions for it. So please let me know in the comments.

Starting point is 00:26:42 I am wishing you anti-fragility. I am wishing you resilience. I am wishing you the ability to enjoy your one precious life. And I will see you on the next episode of the Liz Moody podcast. Oh, just one more thing. It's the legal language. This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, a psychotherapist,

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The Liz Moody Podcast - Optimization Culture Is Killing Us—THIS Is The Real Secret To Health & Happiness

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