The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Everyone's a Critic
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The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast show.
So hi everybody.
Welcome to the podcast.
We've just completed a group rewatch of Everyone's a Critic
and there's a lot to unpack.
Fucking hell.
What's going on there?
Lot of laughs.
I laughed way more than I was expecting rewatching that.
I had forgotten a lot of things.
That's the second time I've watched it today
and I laughed a lot.
I mean, I laughed more watching you guys rewatch it
probably for the first time in 15 years.
Yeah.
I was surprised.
It had a lot of surprises for me.
It took its time.
One of the most surprising things is length.
It might be one of the longest digital shorts.
Yeah, the beginning is.
It's got a nice leisurely pace that I didn't mind.
Yeah, not rushing it, almost four minutes long.
And first of all, there is a warning
in the beginning of the video.
Now.
Yeah, now, that caught us all by surprise,
but of course, makes perfect sense once you watch it.
Yeah, once we watch it, I was like, yes, of course,
now that would be there.
But it was very helpful to put it on,
and there is a warning saying that there are scenes
of people committing self-harm.
Yeah.
Because I had completely forgotten, of course,
where it was going, and that is an appropriate warning
to have at the beginning of this.
So, should we just talk it through from the top?
Sure.
How do you guys wanna go about it?
Yeah, let's do it.
I was impressed at the length at the top.
It was really taking its sweet time in a very leisurely way.
Do you remember what gave you the idea?
Because it seems like that's a bunch of ideas at once.
I think maybe, correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen,
I had a note written down in my ideas notes that was just,
may I paint you?
Based on Titanic? Was it?
Yeah, like the Titanic moment, but being, you know,
we were already friendly with Rudd
and knowing that he had done all that Stella stuff
and would like that tone.
And being like, that's a good start for something,
is me going into his dressing room and being like,
may I paint you?
And then cutting to the Titanic shot.
And then that was all we had.
And I think then we just started pitching on weird things
that could happen with it and it evolved.
That sounds right.
Yeah.
I can't remember when that song was developed
because after you guys started painting each other,
then to get in the mood of painting,
we put on a song and he puts it on first.
It had to be before we shot.
It was. We knew we were gonna do it.
Yeah.
But I feel like that was a type of singing.
I'm gonna give you the most credit for Yhorm,
and then I would join in with you.
But I think it's a type of singing
you'd been doing for a long time.
Oh, the type of singing, yes.
Oh, ho, ho, ho.
But I will say to give you credit, Keev,
because we had this shitty series of WebClip,
it was called WebClip Empire, a series of CDs.
I like that we're talking about it,
like that type of singing.
Yeah, like it exists.
You know, Jorm was the first person to do it
like there's ever been a second person.
Now everyone does it.
His signature style that has been ripped off
a million times.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Well, hold on, let's wait till we get to the music
to talk about that music.
All right, sure, we don't want to rush this.
So Andy walks in and says to Paul, may I paint you?
It's very nice.
It's very grounded.
It's very Titanic.
We then see Andy painting a naked Paul.
I get so self-conscious.
Here.
Maybe a little music will help you relax.
Oh, I love this.
Yeah.
And it's me and Keev doing it.
A little spooky and a little surprised.
Yeah.
It was both of us.
Me and Jorm in the office.
I remember us very lovingly just around the mic going, oh, oh, oh, oh.
But Keev, that is WebClip Empire, right?
The music empire, it might be,
or it might just be some library track.
I'm not sure if it is.
Yeah, anyway, we use this one series of CDs
a lot for shitty music.
I, in my notes while I was rewatching it,
you are my road.
I hate it, love it so much.
It was trying my patience in the best possible way.
Can I say something about that?
Cause you guys all complimenting me.
I'll put that in the compliment column
of that kind of singing.
John Solomon at one point found there was a group
of scientists who tried to make the worst song
in the world and it's called The Worst Music.
I can't remember what it was.
It's a 20 something plus minute song.
And every part of it sounds exactly
like something I would make. And he was just like, oh my God, this is exactly...
Like, that has high pitch, like, yo, yo!
Like, it has rapping and yodeling, and it's just, it's fucking...
Yeah, anyway.
It is good, I've heard it.
I've owned the plains, took me my mind,
took me a break to eat at Frankenstein,
born in Vienna in 1939.
It spoke to you.
It spoke to me, yeah.
I believe, Keev and Yoram,
that we maybe wrote into the script,
it's like a terrible song,
and then we shot,
because my recollection now is
when I first saw the first edit
was the first time I heard what you guys had made
and laughing so hard.
I think that's how I remember it happening to me. Yeah.
I think you recorded it after we shot.
As a fun thing for Andy to hear.
Now, it is doubly funny to know that Paul and Andy can't
hear that song when you go back and watch it.
Yeah.
We just had faith.
Because it almost feels as though a crime
has been committed against you.
In the edit, a crime was committed.
The only way to get anybody to groove to the song you made
is not to play it until it's too late.
You paint, Paul, and then Paul says, may I paint you?
Very nice move.
We see you and your t-shirt is on,
so we think you might be dressed,
but then you are not wearing pants.
Yes, correct.
The camera just caresses your leg hair.
Yeah.
Long shot.
It's caressing your body, thinking
you're not going to see a full-on genitalia shot.
Blurred, of course.
And then it's right there for you again.
Just the same one twice in a row.
But I would say the second shot is a tasteful length.
Yeah, sure.
Upon very much intended.
Then you go look at Paul's painting
and you say, I think we can sell this.
And then we cut to a art auction.
Fred is the auctioneer, Abby Elliot as his assistant.
Can I rewind?
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Uh, the moment when he's painting me,
and he says, how about some music?
And he turns it on and I go, oh, I love this song.
Thinking that maybe now we didn't know
what the music was gonna be,
it does make sense that our plan was
that it would be a different song.
The way I say it.
It definitely does. I'm sure it was going to does. I'm sure it was going to be.
I'm sure it was going to be.
But instead it's me saying, oh, I love this song
about the same song that I just told him was me singing
is so crazy.
Yeah.
And I like it a lot.
But it's also that you guys are so committed
to playing this very straight too.
Like it feels sort of supple. You're acting very supple. Oh yeah, it's a very supple piece. It's a very straight too. Like it feels sort of supple.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's a very supple piece.
It's very supple.
That might have been the only way.
It would have been very hard to keep a straight face
if that music had been playing
for your very grounded performance.
I feel like me and Rudd are known
for our stony disposition.
You would have pulled it off.
So you go to the art auction.
I love your all white on white tuxes with tails.
So dumb.
I had forgotten that.
Those are amazing outfits.
What a dumb choice.
Because it's a serious art event.
But nobody else there is wearing it.
No, they wouldn't dare.
Immediately we realize you've maybe
missed what this crowd likes.
This is what they think people at Sotheby's wear.
Nobody else is dressed like you. Neither of think people at Sotheby's wear.
Nobody else is dressed like you.
Neither of you clock at all that it's a problem
or that you're overdressed.
Def not.
You still have total confidence
that you're about to crush it.
Do we wonder if the white tuxes is reverse engineered
because we wanted there to be something
that the blood showed up really well on?
1,000%.
Yeah, there's no wonder about that.
Yeah, the minute you guys show up,
I'm like, oh wow, blood's gonna look great on this.
Fred did such a good job as the auctioneer
and I loved the dialogue that we even wrote for him.
It's perfectly whatever that is.
But because you guys are yourselves,
it's Andy, it's Paul Rudd,
it starts in the dressing room.
At that moment, this time watching,
even though I thought Fred was great,
I kind of wished we had just got all outside SNL actors.
So you guys were just in the real world.
Because when he says a very exciting new artist,
Paul Rudd, I kind of am like, oh, but that's not Fred.
I wanted you guys to be in the real world at that moment.
Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, the line, it takes a quiet bravery to bear one's soul.
That's what's making them all have that problem.
I mean, Keev, no one calls John Cusack, John Cusack,
in being John Malkovich, and yet.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's true.
It's the same thing.
The same thing.
Same exact thing to the same level of success.
I'm going to say something crazy to Andy, just like like that I think Spike Jonze is an amazing director.
Oh, my God. I'm gonna piggyback your craziness and agree.
Yeah.
Wow, this is continuing.
A full week later.
Yeah. Like, for real, for real, no fucking lie,
I would work with any of those guys.
Can I say to our listeners, here's how you know
we recorded episodes back to back
is when Yoram makes a call back to a previous episode.
That's weird.
That means a week has passed in the real world,
but like only minutes have passed for Memento.
Minutes.
We're stockpiling cause Seth has a vacation.
Oh my God, isn't it gonna be?
Is it not your fault, bitch?
I'm in here every fucking day
whether you guys are here or not,
just waiting for the red light to go on.
He just did a family trips and stockpiled that.
Oh my God, by the way, could we grab,
has anybody gone anywhere?
Could we grab a quick family trips while I have you?
As far as I'm concerned, that podcast is the enemy.
I take podcasts seriously now.
You do, you've gotten very serious about it.
All right, so we reveal the art,
which we never see the painting.
No, we really held back.
I guess it's impossible to show it.
And then everybody starts to scream.
For background actors, great work.
Yeah.
Like, the first woman who screams
does an exceptionally good job.
And the timing of it is really perfect.
I believe Keev and Yoram coached them very meticulously
to be like, she screams, and then everyone else
starts screaming.
It feels like it's from a movie in a good way.
And we get a sense of how the painting
might not be a great painting by the fact
that everyone's eyes start to bleed.
Yes.
And then it gets pretty gory.
This is the reason for the self-harm warning
at the beginning of the short.
Do you think it is inspired by the movie, The Happening,
which we've talked about,
which is the Mark Wahlberg M. Night Shyamalan movie,
where remember that movie was like the trees
were making people kill themselves?
Yeah, it was one of my favorites.
Yeah, I don't know.
What's the timeline on it? Had it come out?
It had come out because I think Andy had talked about
that had inspired his Wahlberg impression a little bit,
and that had already happened.
I don't think so.
I think that just when something is so bad,
it makes stigmata eyes.
I think it's one of many Seth, which is like,
there's something that makes people just start taking
their own lives because it's so horrific
or they're out of control of their own brains.
I mean, again, it's full goriness,
but we cut to Sudeikis for some reason has an oven.
He has a full oven in the auction house
and he's crawling into it.
There's a woman with a gun.
There is Michaela Watkins as sort of an old Italian woman
and you realize her reaction to it
is that it's the Antichrist.
I think when somebody starts speaking in Italian
and cuts their own throat.
Very convincing in the role.
I mean my favorite moment, Hader and Wig as Indiana Jones' Marion
tied to a stake and him screaming, don't look at it.
I remember being really happy about getting that in.
Yeah.
I just love how quickly it happens too.
It's like the third beat of craziness.
Yeah, it's the third beat.
It's not the last one, it's the third one.
And it's a really nice building of chaos.
Also, Fred has just, there are people like,
it's like white foam coming out of their mouths.
Yeah, it's not all intentional suicide.
Sometimes it's just doing something to them.
Also, there's one where I want to ask,
the shot of a woman opens her mouth and it's vomit,
or like, it's like whatever white,
and you can tell it's from behind her.
It's not, she didn't have to do it,
but it's a really good effect.
Agreed.
It's very good, and that woman did it quite well.
Yeah.
Doesn't wear out, it's welcome either too.
It's right up there with like the perspective shots
in Lord of the Rings,
where they make Gandalf look super tall.
Yeah, it's the same as that.
But they're actually, it's just in camera.
Peter Jackson's another great director.
Would work with, yes.
You'd work with?
You'd be surprised to know.
Okay, from now on, just to keep the podcast moving,
if Yorm says a director, just yell out work with
or won't work with.
Work with.
Okay.
Okay.
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What's going on?
You know, you were just telling me
before we started recording,
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Yeah, oh my God, these things are amazing.
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That's key, I got scared.
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Yeah, that's the kind of thing that makes you happy, Seth.
Yeah, just folded clothes, Keef.
It's so nice that we can know each other for this long and then I kind of learn one of your little,
I don't know, picadillos, I don't know what you call it, one of your little,
just something that makes you, puts a smile on your face.
It's nice because I know I can, you know, maybe tell your wife like,
hey, Valentine's Day is coming up, I know something that puts a smile on Seth's face.
Fold it up.
Hey, I have bad news, Keith, though.
They don't do dry cleaning.
OK.
No, that was a bit.
I was pulling the rug out from under you.
They do do dry cleaning.
Oh my gosh.
I was just being polite.
I said, OK.
But I was like, gee, what a sponsor.
What are we spying?
Yeah, I was gutted.
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So also our white tuxedos, which it turns out
you've only been wearing because there are easels for blood.
Really good.
I mean, how many, now here's a very important question.
How many of those tuxes did you have, Keith?
Because if you miss one of those.
One. One.
Really?
Because they were, every time was really
as good as you could have asked.
We just went for it.
We're professionals.
This was back when pre-tapes were insisted upon
and underfunded.
And did you practice that what the splatter would look like
on like white paper before you brought in the tuxes?
I don't think we were going that slow.
You kidding me?
Wow.
You talking about the chaos, kids?
My favorite part of that whole sequence
is all the pan, the whip pans back to you guys.
Yeah.
Every time it lands back on you guys
with your faces kind of like,
eh, this isn't going well, but I don't want to like freak out. whip pans back to you guys. Every time it lands back on you guys with your faces kind of like,
eh, this isn't going well,
but I don't wanna like freak out.
I'm just gonna kind of like,
this is uncomfortable for us.
Maybe there's still one person who will buy it.
Yeah, exactly.
But then there's a really lovely thing
because this in the end is a sketch
about supportive friends, you think.
Cause Andy, you let Paul know that even though his art
has led to multiple people taking their own lives,
your reaction to him is to say, everyone's a critic.
With sort of a smile on your face.
Everyone's a critic.
Hard cut.
Now you guys are doing publicity
for a movie called, Everyone's a Critic.
That you just watched.
Yeah, this was all just a movie. Yeah, everything we've seen is a movie.
It's a very long clip to show.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we don't know what
Casey Wilson's little junket thing.
It seems to me you've shown the entirety
of the film to her.
Shows what you know, but yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So she's basically saying that was a clip from the film
Everyone's a Critic, and you in, again,
a wonderful performance of the way people are late in a Critic, and you in, again, a wonderful performance
of the way people are late in a PR tour.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're loose.
If you watch it, this is one of those things
that people in showbiz know.
You have to sit in a room like that all day
in front of an easel that has the poster of your movie,
and where Casey sits, she's the hundredth reporter
that has come in to shoot this. Yeah.
That was a clip from Everyone's a Critic,
starring Paul Rudd and Andy Samberg.
Now guys, I understand you brought a little surprise
with you.
We did, actually, yeah.
I don't know if you remember the painting from the film,
but...
Ah!
She bleeds out of her eyes and then dies, right?
Who was it?
Were you the boom guy in this one, Yarm?
Was that you?
Yeah, I, yeah.
Oh yeah, that's a recurring role now.
The barfing boom guy. this one, Yarm? Was that you? Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's a recurring role now, the barfing boom guy.
I fall through barfing.
So you've barfed in like two, you've been a barfing boom guy twice in a month.
I reprised my role as barfing boom guy.
So whatever you call this nesting doll thing or whatever, where a thing inside a thing,
there was another thing.
There was, there's a fourth beat and I'm trying to remember what it was. I'm so bummed that we cut it out,
because it did make me laugh.
I can't remember what it was,
but it pulled out again from the junket,
and there was a different thing happening.
Oh, so all right, so right now,
we think there might be a lost fourth beat.
We have sent Kevin Miller to the files,
to the archives, to see if he can find
everyone's critic from Dress.
Can we guess what it was though?
Because I feel like it was another junket.
Like it was another film.
I thought maybe it was a news report or something,
but it just didn't.
I remember being like the reveal being
halfway as exciting as the first reveal.
So it just felt like it wasn't getting bigger.
And at no point has there been diminishing returns
in this short.
Yes.
So I would understand you guys cutting a beat if it was
only clever but less funny.
I think after it aired, it felt to me
similar to Seth's all-time favorite,
Wish It Would Rain, where we cut a bunch after dress
and were like, you know what?
Maybe the point of that was that it was annoyingly long.
This is less annoying.
I wish it would rain the point was that it was annoyingly long. This is less annoying. I wish it would rain.
The point was that it was annoyingly long
and you guys were cowards for cutting it.
We've done cuts before that I was really happy about though
like Boombox where we lifted a verse and a chorus
and it felt like the exact right length
for an SNL audience, you know?
Yeah. Yes.
And then this one, I don't know.
I'd have to see it again to know.
It tends to be to me like when it's not gonna be
fully successful that I'd rather just be like,
well, if it's making us laugh,
then I feel like we should just have left it long.
Now though, let's not forget, it was a hot show,
there was a lot in it.
And so there was also probably you were doing a courtesy
to the rest of your colleagues for making a cut.
Do you remember who the musical guest was, Andy?
We're going to hopefully get that fourth beat,
but I'm going to ask you a little about the show.
Paul Rudd and...
Vampire Weekend.
You were in a sketch with Paul Rudd and the musical guest.
Oh. Well, no, not this time you hosted.
Yeah, this time.
Paul McCartney?
No. Oh, that was the next time. Yeah. I was in a live sketch. Oh, well no, not this time you hosted. Yeah, this time. Paul McCartney? No.
Oh, that was the next time.
Yeah.
I was in a live sketch.
Oh, Beyonce.
Beyonce!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there was another cameo in that sketch.
From Justin Timberlake.
There you go.
I mean, it was the single ladies video shoot
and the background dancers were you
and Bobby Moynihan and Timberlake.
Oh wow, that was this show, eh?
That's fucking huge.
That was Bobby's idea, right?
It was Bobby's idea.
It was. It was at the table read.
Bobby is very funny in it,
but here's how you know it was Bobby's idea.
Bobby is a very new cast member
in a sketch full of superstars.
Yeah.
There's only one way that door is open.
And by the way, he got what he deserved.
I'm not saying he, like, backdoored it, but like that's,
you're like, oh, that dude must have written it if he's in it.
(*both laugh*)
Well, when he wrote it, it was just me and him.
Right.
And in the video, there's only two dancers with her.
Yeah.
So it made sense, but then somehow via Higgins,
he was like, I think Justin's in town, or Justin's around,
and was like, we're gonna ask him to be in this. And then Justin, I Higgins, he was like, I think Justin's in town or Justin's around.
And was like, we're gonna ask him to be in this.
And then Justin, I think, told a story
in one of those documentaries that he was instrumental
in convincing Beyonce to do the sketch at all.
I remember that. I'll vouch for that.
For him going in there.
Yeah, I remember going in there with him
to talk to her about it and her being very sweet
and leaving and not knowing if she was 100% down or not. And then it happened.
Gotcha.
I was very taken rewatching it, how good she is in it,
and how she would be very good at this
for the course of a whole episode as well.
For sure.
I also have said many times throughout my life,
since SNL, that when people ask me
who's the most incredible music performance
you ever saw while you were there.
For me, it's her and Prince probably are the two.
In terms of like watching a person
that no one else can do what they're doing,
physically and creatively at the same time.
It was kind of mind blowing watching her
do Single Ladies Live.
Agreed.
We watched every rehearsal because we were just like,
how is this happening?
I feels like Single Ladies
should have been the first song she did.
It was the second song she did.
I was surprised by that.
It must have been a hit for a long time.
And so she was trying to push a new one.
I'm wondering if it's because of the sketch
being the Single Ladies video,
if there was a sense of like,
it would play better before or after.
Oh, interesting.
Kevin found everyone's a critic from dress,
but it doesn't seem like there's any more beats.
So you must've maybe made the cuts before Dress.
Oh man.
Can we ask Dina?
Yeah, somebody reach out to Dina.
Then it was definitely right.
If we made the decision before Dress,
then it's definitely correct.
Very final thing that aired on the night
was a second one of the Noah Baumbach,
Armisen hater, little shorts.
I don't remember those, are they?
I can't remember what they were like at all.
I just remember Noah being there and hanging out,
but I don't remember what they actually filmed.
This one was called No, No, No,
and it was Rudd and Hader talking about
how Bill was now dating a woman that Rudd used to date,
and then Fred comes in as someone who's currently dating it,
and it's a lot of like, look, I hope you're not mad.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, so you're cool with the fact
that I'm seeing Tracy right now. Well, well, well, that's kind of weird. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, so you're cool with the fact that I'm seeing Tracy right now. Well, that's kind of weird.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a lot in, I feel like, best of cut-up montages.
Yep.
A lot of fun.
Then since Timberlake was there,
Timberlake was on update,
and he did like a tour de force where he did
this is me if I host.
I didn't have time to host this year,
so here's two minutes of what I would do if I was hosting.
Oh wow.
Hey Thanksgiving is Thursday, blah blah blue,
I'm bringing turkey back.
Jokes!
Whatever's left I eat it for a snack.
Andy and Bill is backup dancers
because they're not in anything else.
Ha ha ha. Stick around. We got a great show.
We'll be right back.
Some ad parody that I'm not in.
Then bring it on down to Turkeyville.
Ah!
Commercial.
And good evening,
and welcome back to the Vincent Price Thanksgiving special with me and three
other dead people.
Of course, I'll play James Dean.
And straight into a digital short, step one.
You cut a hole in the turkey, step two.
And it was really a thing that maybe only four other SNL hosts ever could do.
That's what I was about to say.
It's such like rare air to be like, that's the bit, because everyone's thinking it.
Yeah, and also, there's, like, seven massive shifts
in tone and energy that he just turns on a dime.
Yeah.
And I do believe I scream at some point,
take it to the bridge, like a girl in the front row
at a Timberlake concert.
Oh, there's a sketch from the Rudd show that, look,
does it play?
I wouldn't argue it played.
It's called Songwriters Showcase.
And I went back and rewatched it today
because it's one of those titles where you're like,
that sounds familiar,
but like nothing about the title gives it away.
And it's Wig and Rudd singing one of those story country
songs at like an open mic night where, you know,
those like 70s song where like,
she went down to the bridge and she went a little fast.
Like it's just like a story of something.
And it's a very long song about a package being delivered to the wrong house.
And it's just them singing the tracking number.
He went to the kitchen and he called his manager June. He started reading off the tracking number right into her M&M phone.
He said 3-1-2-5-6-9-3-5-6-7-3-4-5-2.
Then he continued TKX4526.
Sounds like some wig action.
It's really funny.
And it's also, you know, last week with Ham,
with Brolin, with Hathaway,
like the speed at which Rudd can do anybody's tone.
Like he matches Wig's energy perfectly.
You know, the fun thing about the Beyonce sketch is again,
I'll be the straight man for this one.
He's the director of the single ladies video.
So, you know, when he gets to be funny, he's super funny.
The first kissing family.
Vogelchecks.
The Vogelchecks.
I think maybe the line that made Lauren laugh the most
every time he heard it was the end of a kissing family
where Fred would do his long run explaining why.
My grandfather, Grandpupu Vogelcheck,
came to this country with nothing.
He was totally naked.
He left his job as a foreigner
so that he could build a better life for himself here.
A country where he wouldn't punish people
who were affectionate and kissy with their families.
So yeah, I know it feels like a lot,
but you know something?
We're Vogelchecks.
In the way he said it would make Lauren like the Fah.
Lauren even told me like a month before the 50th,
he's like, you know, I'm thinking maybe a kissing family
because, you know, then you have, you know,
because we're Vogelchecks.
You know, and it's a great line,
but I always want to say like to Lauren,
like, you know that's not like, isn't that special?
But I did rewatch that and there was a line
that does not get a laugh that made me laugh out loud.
Just a very writer's line that happens too fast
for the audience to appreciate, which is,
Fred is talking about how his family moved to America
because they wanted a place where they wouldn't be judged
for being affectionate.
And he says, talking about his grandpa Vogelcheck,
he left his job as a foreigner
so he could build a better life for himself here.
But he left his job as a foreigner is so funny to me.
And how, what's the exact phrasing
on the last line of it, Seth?
I don't know.
Maybe it's just because we're Vogelchecks.
There you go.
Some version of that.
Just eating it up.
I have a dumb question.
Is it live?
What?
Is the show live?
That's your dumb question.
What time does it air and what night?
Andy, when you're in something like the single ladies thing,
and it's fucking Beyonce, and it looks pretty iconic,
and Justin's in it.
Because I don't know how many sketches you were in that actually became that level of sort of
iconic. Did you have the sense that you're like, ah, this one's going to get rewatched?
Did you have that sort of sense where you're just like, oh, this is just another thing and
hopefully people like it and it's funny? Well, I was crazy geeked because I was
doing something with Beyoncé. Yeah.
But I mean, you know, no matter what,
it's like gonna be a news item, an entertainment news item.
Right.
It's the modern equivalent of like when Ariana Grande sings
Sabrina Carpenter's song.
Like, it's just things that are super red hot in that moment.
It's gonna get clicked in there.
Yes, where you're like, oh, I see.
This is like very relevant to pop culture
at this exact moment.
And when you're doing it, the audience is aware of that
and you're getting extra juice off of that for sure.
Is that out of all the sketches that you've done,
is that the one that is probably most, I don't know,
iconic for- Like live?
Yeah. I don't know.
It's an interesting question.
Yeah, all right, that was it.
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I was very excited when my brother finally got married.
He waited a very long time to do it,
so long that I had children.
And then I had to bring my children to his wedding,
and I didn't want to have my children in a hotel room and we were really lucky that
there was an Airbnb nearby so that I didn't have to have my kids at the hotel
where everybody was loud and staying up late and instead they got to stay at a
wonderful a-frame and if you don't have kids let me tell you they love it when a
house is shaped like a letter. It was fantastic we had a great time they did
not wake us up early because they had their own rooms and it was just so much better than being in a
common space with everybody who was in full revelry for my brother's wedding.
Hey Yoram, were you at that wedding? Oh no, I wasn't invited. So you know what? Thanks to my brother for finally getting married
and more importantly, thanks to Airbnb.
Oh, hey, can we go into, it's like Seth's corner,
but it's called the Petulant Pit.
Oh.
Can you sing a song for that?
I think Andy should sing the Petulant Pit.
Oh, the Petulant Pit, you know.
It's a pit full of petulants pet, you know. It's a pet, oh, the petulant, and it's worse than lips.
He's very good at singing.
I just realized, I hope I haven't talked about this.
This is where I was so mad, because I wrote a live sketch
where you played Rahm Emanuel, Andy, and it got cut.
Oh.
Do you remember?
But then did it air later?
It aired later, but I didn't know
it was going to air in the future,
because I wasn't there yet. And I was so mad it got cut. But it aired later? It aired later, but I didn't know it was going to air in the future, because I wasn't there yet.
And I was so mad it got cut.
But it aired later as a pre-tape.
Yeah, which helped.
But it was from the live recording.
We didn't redo it again.
But it was live, and it was about how Rahm Emanuel, like,
did a lot of cursing.
It was known as a sort of hothead.
You were great in it.
I thought it was awesome.
It got cut, and I went into my dressing room
and I was so mad, I swung my door open
and the doorknob went through the wall
that the door swung into and left a big old hole.
Fucking strong guy.
And Shoemaker, as punishment,
wouldn't ever get the hole fixed.
Because he said, I want you to look at that every day
and think about what a baby you are.
That's a good producer.
That's good producing.
The amazing thing about this is Shoemaker has been out.
Shoemaker got knee surgery.
And so we just finished two weeks of shows
where Shoemaker wasn't in the building.
Shoemaker, absolutely the most important person
for me to be around to get through my day without stress overwhelming me.
Like, cause anytime something makes me a little bit crazy,
his office right next to me, I just walk over
and I just yell at him.
I literally don't take it out on anybody else.
I just yell at him and then it's out.
And I just like go back to my day.
So I haven't had Shoemaker.
I made it all the way to the last day.
By the way, it's only two weeks.
I should have been able to make it. And something happened yesterday,
and I took a Uniball pen and I threw it across the room
and it exploded on my wall and left like a Rorschach block.
And I put a note up and said, please do not clean this
because that's gonna be my new hole in the wall.
I'm gonna put a little plaque next to it
to be like, the two weeks shoe was away.
I just like picturing that when he comes back,
his knee is gonna be like, bow!
He's just gonna be picking stuff.
You know?
He's gonna enter the way, hi-yah!
Like when Robocop first walked in.
Yeah.
Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.
Check this out, guys.
Whoosh.
I don't know.
I love that we've all heard that story.
My thought was, man, what's up with dudes and our rage?
And why do we always want to break stuff when we're mad?
And Yoram was like, I bet Shoemaker's got a robot leg.
You should get him a soccer ball.
You should break a bunch of soccer balls
and put them in different rooms.
I like yours way better.
Andy's like, oh, man, we're so toxic.
Yoram's like, how far can he kick a soccer ball now? Hey, yow! I'm sure I can do this now.
Keev, what was your takeaway?
I'm just enjoying the pod.
Oh, okay, great.
Great.
Righteous Kill.
Oh, Righteous Kill.
Oh, Righteous Kill.
Have we ever talked about Righteous Kill as a say?
No, that's why I'm surprised we haven't.
Where is it from, Andy?
Akiva, when it came out, or when it was not even out yet,
it was about to come out, the movie Righteous Kill,
said he was gonna try and start that as a thing.
Wait, it was Keev that said that?
Yeah.
I would have put it on you, Andy.
I don't, I have no memory.
No, it was you.
Okay, well, it caught on for a while with me and you.
Yeah, we said it a lot.
It caught on for, well, fucking Andy,
he said it for the rest of his life. Righteous Kill.
Yeah, I still say it all the time.
So when someone says something
that you would normally say like right on or righteous,
you go, oh, Righteous Kill, Righteous Kill.
And Keef and I still every now and again,
when we text each other something,
we'll just send the poster of the movie
Righteous Kill as a response.
So Keef tried to start something
and it only caught on with his closest friend.
That's all I was starting with.
That's it. That was success.
Well, it caught on with me though.
Yeah, that is success.
It's not over, guys.
We have a podcast.
We have a platform.
This is our megaphone.
So get it out there, guys.
There's still time.
Righteous Kill, Yoram.
Righteous Kill.
Hey, look, if even one person
starts saying Righteous Kill casually
in their conversations,
this podcast will have been worth it.
It was De Niro, it was Pacino, together again
for the first time since Heat.
It was the first time ever.
Yeah.
And its legacy is like it doesn't exist,
but in this small way it can.
Yeah.
Thank you, thank you.
For so many things, but at this moment, that.
Great.
I just had De Niro on my show.
De Niro's in a new movie where he plays, that. Great. I just had De Niro on my show.
De Niro's in a new movie where he plays two different mobsters.
I saw the trailer.
Yeah, so he does a scene with himself.
And one of our producers on this podcast in the late night,
Kevin Miller, produced that segment.
And Kevin Miller basically gave me an A-plus line
to say when De Niro was out, which is, I said,
I apologize that I'm about to say this,
but when I look at this picture of you,
two of you at a table, all I can think is you talking to you.
You talking to you?
Yeah.
You talking to you.
And it was a real good, like De Niro being like, huh?
Yeah.
Very funny.
You talking to you?
Okay.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Can I say one more that I'd like people to start saying?
Oh yeah, this is like your righteous kill?
Well, when we did Quado, and I mean we may have talked about this,
but I really did want people to start calling each other Quades.
Now, that took off with me I would say the same way that Righteous Kill took off with Andy.
Yeah.
So do you call your friends Quades? Like when you walk into a room you're like,
hey what are you Quades up to?
Just with us.
Yeah, just with us. I mean that's the problem, is I'm not taking it to the streets,
but I do think I, I often think of you as a quaid, Yoram.
Yeah, no, no, no, I am, I am 100% a quaid.
Jost will still sometimes text,
who does a quaid have to blow to get emulsions around here?
Yeah.
I thought you were trying to get
this expression started, Yoram.
Oh, wait, it's today?
Let it go. That was a week ago.
Burn.
I don't feel bad about this.
I don't feel bad about this because we constantly move the podcast.
So it's a perfectly reasonable thing to text multiple times a day.
Look, I'm just really happy.
Let's just celebrate the fact that all four of us are here together.
This is killer. This is going great. Everyone's a critic. Is it criterion? I don't know.
I'm gonna say not. In some ways, it is to me because it
feels so different from all the others. And I'm always very into when we branch into different
things. Like, again, if it was a true criterion or the old school SNL best of DVD, just having
it be song after song wouldn't feel that good.
We would be really grateful for the dear sisters jammed in there. And then I think something
like this would suddenly feel more exciting to put in there just to create a good feeling
of a good show.
Okay, you're talking about like, it's a mixtape.
Exactly.
I appreciate it.
Well, that's what those best ofs were a mixtxtape. And so you did want to kind of create, you know,
when we were kids and we'd rent the Eddie Murphy one,
you were renting it instead of renting a movie, you know,
you were at the video store
and you were renting best of Eddie Murphy.
You would watch it straight through
and want to have like a comedy special experience, you know.
I like your macro view on this.
It's a different way to think about it.
And now I don't know what to think
because I wouldn't put it,
I don't think you can think about criterion like that.
I agree with everything you said, Keev.
And I would say ultimately, I don't think it's criterion.
But it definitely falls into the category
of I'm proud of it and like it a lot.
Certainly would be in Kim's video.
It's a real Kim's video.
Yeah, it's a Kim's video for sure.
Yeah, it doesn't get caught trying to be anything it's not. There's no cheap moves. It's like very Kim's video. It's a real Kim's video. Yeah, it's a Kim's video. For sure, for sure. For sure. Yeah, it doesn't get caught trying to be anything it's not.
There's no cheap moves.
It's like very pure to itself.
Yeah, no, no, I love this one.
I wish we could release that song.
I wish I had it on my computer right now
because it really makes me happy.
I wish it was my ringtone.
Can I pitch something?
Maybe take five minutes and just rerecord it?
Oh, you know what?
Okay.
This one goes way more arched,
but I would also say you could sort of categorize it
tonally and pace-wise with the Jonah's dad one.
Yeah.
Which is like a story that takes place at the studio
and then sort of branches out from there.
But yeah, it's good stuff.
And like, look, there's no one we love more than Rudd.
He's just like the greatest. Andy, would you call it AMPM? Too much good stuff. Too's good stuff. And like, look, there's no one we love more than Rudd. He's just like the greatest.
Andy, would you call it AMPM?
Too much good stuff.
Yeah, Yoram says that a lot.
Hey, I wanna loop back one episode
just to say, share one story,
which is that the last show before the election,
which was Ben Affleck,
Ben Affleck is a very good over the years,
a wonderful SNL host.
But my memory of the Affleck show was John McCain,
the John McCain who was running for president
and the election was three days later,
came on the show and did a QVC sketch
that I had originally written for Daryl.
And the idea was that it was going so bad in the polls
and that fundraising was such a problem
that he was now on QVC.
And he did a sketch where he was with Tina
playing Sarah Palin.
Yeah.
And again, as crazy as politics are now,
that is deeply unique.
Would I rather be on three major networks?
Of course, but I'm a true maverick,
a Republican without money.
And I'm not true maverick, a Republican without money.
And I'm not like my opponent. My only showbiz connections are John Voight
and Heidi from the Hills.
So I'm here on QVC, and like QVC,
this campaign promises you three things,
quality, value, and convenience.
And great deals on juicers.
He was having the time of his life.
Fucking good.
Good for him.
And again, he had hosted the show in maybe 05, 04?
We'd hung out with him before.
Lorne and him got along incredibly well.
He was somebody who, for however our politics diverged, I felt
like the man's moral compass was one I had a great amount of respect for. And I
liked being around him. I thought he was really funny and wrote this sketch and
he showed up to do it in his dressing room. Lindsey Graham and Sam Brownback,
who were a couple of senators at the time. Lindsey Graham obviously still is.
I remember going back after the sketch here
and being like, that was great.
And they were like, oh, man, what a blast.
Like, again, like they're just looking at polling numbers.
They just come for fun and, and, and smoke.
Yeah, I think he was like, we're gonna go to SNL,
come meet me.
The fact that it was with Tina
and that halfway through the sketch,
she, as Palin, turns to a new camera and goes,
-"Okay, y'all, I'm going rogue." -"Yeah."
Which had been like a news story for weeks
about how Palin was going rogue
and throwing off the election for them.
And he was in it, was so wild.
I remember being like, as a person who really doesn't care
about politics most of the time,
especially at that time, I was like,
I can't fucking believe he's doing this.
Okay, listen up everybody, I'm going rogue right now,
so keep your voices down.
Available now, we got a bunch of these
fan-signing t-shirts.
Woo!
Just try and wait until after Tuesday to wear them, okay?
Because I am not going anywhere.
And I'm certainly not going back to Alaska.
That was also then a couple years later, the title of Sarah Palin's book was going broke.
Was it really?
Yeah.
You gotta lean into it, I guess. Also, it reminded me of, like, when I was growing up
watching SNL, when there was that sketch where
Lovitz was Dukakis.
Oh, yeah.
Or keeps cutting back and forth the,
I can't believe I'm losing to this guy.
Ha ha ha.
But it was as if Dukakis was in that sketch.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Yeah.
Like, the real one, McCain doing it.
All right, gentlemen.
Hey, our next one's kind of a big one, fellas.
John Malkovich hosted the episode.
He wasn't in the short, but you were,
and it's Jizz in My Pants.
Big change for us.
That's a fun one.
Pretty exciting.
It's the first one we did outside of SNL,
where we took the off week previous to SNL
and shot it that week.
Well, well, well, let's save these details for the episode.
Oh yeah, it's already getting too good.
Shut up, Keev.
It definitely, I would argue, changed the way those got made
and still continues to get made.
Changed the game?
Would you say it changed the game?
Production wise, yes.
Ooh yeah, you said it, Andy.
But will you say it that way I asked you to?
Changed the game.
Next week we change the game.
Next week?
We change the game.
See if you can do it as Yoruma
and not have our audience know Andy.
Oh, this is gonna be insulting.
We change the game.
That's present.
Okay, I got it good.
We change the game.
We change the game. You guys are. We changed the game. I gotta kill you guys. I got family friends.
They're your friends.
They're your friends.
I'm the only one with family friends and kids.
They may be laughing at you, but they're your friends.
Hey, I can't make it and I'm gonna tell you every detail about why.
Because you guys are busy.
I can't do the podcast, but I do need an hour to tell you why.
Well, just do the podcast.
The handsome one that's been in the studio for a while.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. You know. Because you guys are busy. I can't do the podcast, but I do need an hour to tell you why.
We'll just do the podcast.
The handsome one's laughing at you.
The one with teeth.
Oh no, he's lamenting.
The handsome one, I love that I still get to be the handsome one.
I can't believe I'm the one with teeth.
All right, love you guys.
Love you too, Seth.
All right, in truth, love you guys.
All right, love you guys, thanks.