The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Laser Cats! 3D
Episode Date: November 18, 2024The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers talk about the digital short Laser Cats! 3D. They share memories from Christopher Walken hosting and chat about sketches like Googly eyes, Pranksters, Walken Family R...eunion, Grease Rehearsals, and more! Laser Cats 3D - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CeRI2yZDEYGoogly Eyes Gardener - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc7qJE9Nzo8Meet the Family - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcn9ILmU-IgThe Continental - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vuOnVNiYtgPranksters - https://youtu.be/jORviU2oyMQ?si=rXNjbrFW6Ktz_Byw (Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @thelonelymeyerspod. Send us an email! thelonelyislandpod@gmail.com Support our sponsors:Sony Pictures Saturday NightBring home the movie everyone is talking about—Saturday Night, the hilarious and zany story capturing the chaotic moments right before the very first episode of SNL made it to air, where everything that could go wrong did. Grab your friends, get ready to laugh, and make every night Saturday Night. Available to buy or rent on digital now from Sony Home Entertainment. Rated R ShopifyUpgrade your business and get the same checkout Aviator Nation uses.Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at SHOPIFY.COM/lonelyisland VuoriVuori is offering 20% off your FIRST purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at vuori.com/ISLAND  Not only will you receive 20% off your first purchase, but enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns. AirbnbVisit Airbnb.com today and book a guest favorite.  These are the most beloved homes on Airbnb. Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards
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I'm recording.
Is Yorma recording over there?
Is he right next to you where you can just yell,
Yorm, is your P4 recording?
Hey, Yorma, is your P4 recording?
Yeah.
He says, yeah, I think so.
All right, great. Is this how it goes on set?
Yorm, you remember to roll the cameras, right?
This is filming.
Let me tell you how it works on set.
Yeah, give it to us.
He gives notes, and I nod as if I was listening.
Yes, sir.
And I just do what I was gonna do anyway.
And then you lean on the motherfucking craft.
Lean on the motherfucking craft.
That's right.
Exactly, Andy.
You have to trust it.
How late is it in Finland right now?
There's a time difference where you guys are.
What time is it where you are?
Well, we're in three different time zones. It's almost four in the afternoon on the East Coast
4 p.m. In New York City here in tempere. It's
1978
It's the lonely Island and
Seth Meyers. And Timothy Olyphant podcast.
It's a time difference.
It is a time difference.
Wow.
It's 10 40 in the evening.
OK.
Oh, that's the perfect time to cast.
You guys did a full day of filming.
And now, did you guys rent places near each other?
No, no.
We were just at a bar right near where he is staying
Okay, I'm not I'm not responsible for that
Were you guys drinking some what's a local drink? Is there a local drink you guys have there? No, actually most the places
we've been to are
Your drinks a lot of IPA. Is that normal? Yeah.
I mean, I guess it's normal for him, maybe?
It's Jormal, is what we say.
Yeah, it's Jormal.
Jormal.
Yeah, it's Jormal.
Wow.
Guess what, Jormal? You're not going to be needed. You need to take a nap, you lie down.
You're fine. I got this. I think they're appreciating this. He's drinking mostly IPAs every time
I'm hanging out with him. Got it, got it.
What do they say in Finland instead of TGIF?
Uh, thank God it's not Russia.
Oh.
It's right nearby.
That's almost like I can't believe it's not butter.
Yeah, very similar.
Have I told you guys that I went out to dinner
with Tim in New York City?
Oh, it was a good night.
It was a good night, and we drank Old Fashioned.
Some of the best Old Fashioned in town. It was great. We were at Via a good night and we drank old fashions. Some of the best
old fashions in town. It was great. We were at Via Corota and we were at a two top where
the, we were between two other two tops where I would say there was half an inch between
the tables. Like it was so non-private. And Tim said right away, he's like, you must know
somebody here to get a table this good. Cause it really was. It was so bad.
And like immediately, like the woman
kitty quarter to Tim recognized him.
And so they were immediately like, we fully were clocked.
And then had to like speak in code the whole night.
Tim got recognized tonight at the nerd bar that week.
By the way, you're two out of three, though.
Every time we've gone out, you've been recognized as well.
Pretty good.
We should tour Finland, guys.
Are you recognized for Girls Yorm?
No, it's Lonely Island.
It's our stuff?
No, it's you guys.
It's your work.
And then what about you, Timothy?
What do you get most?
Oh, uh...
I mean, it was not justified.
It was a...
Tonight was...
That guy was a Deadwood guy.
Yeah, he was dead.
And then he went into Mandalorian.
Deadwood, and he apologized for calling it HBO.
He was like, I watched it on HBO.
I'm sorry, Max.
Oh, really?
Very polite.
Thank you.
He immediately apologized.
He must have known you guys were coming to do the cast.
Right.
Sorry, don't misquote me.
I'm up to date on all the streamers.
I have great respect for streamers and how they are named.
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Lonely Island
and Seth Meyers and Timothy Olyphant podcast.
Nicely known.
Guys, I'm just here to listen.
Uh-oh, that's the return of the five shock jugs.
Five shock jugs.
She told it on my show,
but another good example of somebody thinking when your table is too close
and you're talking about your friends
and your friends also are in this business
and so you have to start being coded
about who you're talking about.
I went to dinner with Polar, Rashida Jones,
Rachel Dratch and Shoemaker and Polar,
there was a woman sitting alone right next to our table.
And at one point Polar goes,
this woman is listening to every word we say,
so you cannot say anything.
We're like, got it.
And then like 10 minutes later, finally her friend joined her
and they immediately spoke fluent Russian.
And it was very clear that they had not.
And that Polar had to be like,
I realize now that woman was staring off
into the middle distance.
Oh my God.
Probably does not understand.
It's like the end of Swingers where Vince Vaughn thinks
the woman's flirting with him but she's talking to a baby.
But I also, I have an app on my phone.
It's not an app, it's like a website where you can make
a fake newspaper and so then a couple of hours later,
I made a fake Russian newspaper that was like
a gossip rag and it listed listed everything. We're gonna commit.
Yeah, I'll commit to a bet.
On the dirt.
Dish of dirt.
If I understand it, Andy hates podcasts.
He's warming up to it, Tim.
He'd look at his...
I have been prepped this evening that you hate podcasts.
Did the guy that you guys met at the bar tell you that?
Yes.
I did.
We were like, we're on our way to do a podcast.
He doesn't even know the difference between HBO and Max.
All right.
We can't listen to that guy.
I feel the thrust of this show has gotten derailed.
Historically has been.
Wait, I've got two that I want you guys to order at the bar
for next week's episode. One is called Laka. I to order at the bar for next week's episode one is called
I love that we're prepping next week's episode
Yeah, Tim's back
He's probably back
Laka a liquor flavored with cloudberries. Okay, sounds good. It sounds like Smurfs made it. We'll text it to Yorn
He's not gonna remember. Is it the Smurfs from Finland? It's from somewhere close
He's not gonna remember. Is it the Smurfs from Finland?
It's from somewhere close.
De Stroomf's.
I bet it's.
Aren't they Belgian, the Smurfs?
Yeah, I believe they're originally called De Stroomf's.
They might be Belgian, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
But they would definitely make a liquor with cloudberries.
And then the other one's Valhalla Nordic Herbal Liquor
in Valhalla.
Okay.
All right, great.
All right, move on.
And these guys have been eating cloudberries
straight off the bush based on how tonight's going.
It's going.
You guys are covered in cloudberry juice.
If we can somehow make that something we say moving forward, Seth, I'd really like it.
Like when someone's not all there, the guy sounds like they've been eating cloudberries
straight off the bush.
So basically, we're going to make our own idioms.
That's the goal now.
I love an original idiom.
The goal of this podcast.
So it's the Christopher Walken show.
My question is, moving forward, how many times do you think one of us will do a Christopher
Walken accent over the course of this episode?
Because I've always said one of my favorite things about when Walken hosted SNL is you'd
walk down the hallways in every room you would hear people doing like like, anywhere from a D-plus to a B-minus
Christopher Walken impression through the door.
You know, it's been done since, but it was your idea, Keefa.
Or, no, you actually said it was Liz's idea.
Yeah. So, everyone that listens to this pod
knows that Liz worked at SNL as a writer as well, my wife.
But she left after our second year or first year,
but she still lived in New York with me.
And so, occasionally, there'd be a moment around,
let's say the breakfast nook where it's like,
oh, who's hosting this week?
And I'd say, oh, I'm about to go in
and pitch to Christopher Walken.
And then she would give me a good idea.
And this was all her.
And it was one of the only times in the pitch meeting
I said a pitch that actually became a sketch
that actually was on the air.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That was the only time? That was the only time?
That was the only time?
It maybe happened a few other times,
but this was one of the main ones,
and it wasn't even mine.
And then I immediately enlisted Seth,
or you volunteered or whatever,
because I knew I needed a pro to bring this kind of real,
normal, live sketch good idea to life.
And it was to allow everyone in the cast
to do their Christopher Walken.
It was a Walken family reunion.
It was a Walken family reunion. It was a Walken family reunion.
And the thing I remember about it
is Walken told us while we were blocking it,
basically, in order for this sketch to work,
I have to do an impression of how people think I sound.
Right.
And by the way, if you watch it,
you can tell it's a little different,
but it ain't that different.
I believe Bill's the baseline guy who comes in first.
Is that you?
Stanley, how's by you?
Long time no see. Big hug.
Big hug. Big hug.
Wow!
Wow!
When's the last time I saw you, Stanley?
It's my brother John's wedding 15 years ago
You're a little guy Andy you're one of the like a nephew. Yeah at the walkin family. Yeah. How was mine?
How was my walkin very good?
I will say weirdly polar goes first and then you go and I feel like that was bad writing
Yeah, because yours is very good. But Polar is a little girl with walking hair.
It's just funnier on every level.
Yeah.
And she's talking about how she's afraid of ghosts
because they're spooky.
Darling, there's no ghosts around here, so you're safe.
That's good, because I hate ghosts.
They're spooky.
And I don't respond well to spooky behavior.
Of course.
Me too. I'm with you.
110%.
How are you, Scott?
I'm not good.
Everyone at my school is a phony.
I want to be skateboarding and listening to my iPod.
Not at some ridiculous family reunion.
Scott, behave yourself.
It's okay.
Forte is actually very first as a waiter.
Threw him a bone.
He gives him his drink.
I asked Polar to send us a voice note of her memories of her Walken sketch.
Hey guys, it's Polar voice noting you again, voice memo-ing you again.
The Christopher Walken episode, I remember a couple of things.
I remember that sketch, which was so fun.
Everybody did their Christopher Walken and of course there were great impressions and
then there were people like myself who don't have an impression, but I think because it was so bad, it was good, maybe?
And that short little wig, and I was playing a young girl,
and I just got a laugh on the word spooky, which is fun to say as Christopher Walken.
Spooky behavior.
And let's see, I also remember that I was in a sketch with Christopher Walken. Spooky behavior. And let's see, I also remember that I was in a sketch with
Christopher Walken and we usually when you're blocking a sketch you chit chat with people
and we just sat in silence next to each other for I would say 20 minutes. Probably the longest
I've ever sat not chit chatting with someone ever who hosted the show. But he was still a delight.
I don't remember anything from that show at all. Yorma, do you? Okay, bye you guys.
By the way, if I wasn't here, I wouldn't be able to defend myself for being burned for
not remembering anything. But yeah, thanks.
Are you here?
Thanks, Amy.
Yes, I don't remember that.
Yeah, but you also weren't at the episode.
Well, so then you're not defending yourself.
No, no.
You weren't there.
I love that you're like, I wouldn't
be here to defend myself also if she was 100% right.
Hey, you're right.
Those are those IPAs talking.
Yeah.
Now, right away, to your point of them doing them,
we have the Sandler family reunion from
five years ago on here.
I see the Jim Carrey family reunion from 10 years ago.
Do you think we deserve writing credits on those?
I don't know.
The only reason I say maybe we don't is we probably didn't give one to Liz and it was
her idea.
Yeah, but the money still came to her.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
By the way, super fun money still came to her, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
By the way, super fun show, top to bottom.
Really loved it.
And we're gonna get to Laser Cats 3,
but I think there's so many things
I just wanna mention real quick about this show.
A lot of people sometimes they knock on a questions monologue.
They think that's a cop out.
Fair, right?
Andy, I think sometimes you get on my case.
So you've got the musical monologues. You think the game shows.
Yeah, you think there's knocks on all the stuff.
I know, but here's the thing.
I wrote the Q&A monologue for Walkin' this week.
It's Seth Corner. Yoram?
-♪ Seth Corner, you're all invited
Seth Corner, it's happening right now
Take it away, Seth
Christopher Walkin came out and said,
I'm gonna do a questions monologue, but I've written the questions. It's happening right now. Take it away. Yeah. Christopher Wagen came out and said,
I'm gonna do a questions monologue,
but I've written the questions for the audience.
Oh, that's good.
And then it was real A-lister writers,
Paula, Downey, Lutz.
Nice.
And he keeps criticizing the questions.
That he wrote.
Even though he wrote them.
What is your favorite color?
I have to be honest.
That's not a good question.
I'm saying, here we are.
You have a chance to ask me something germane,
and all you can come up with is my favorite color.
It's not good.
In any case.
He also stops people and says, say it like you wrote it.
You, sir.
So just read it off the card?
Yes.
But read it as if you thought of it.
Okay.
Which do you prefer more,
acting in film or live performance?
That's a good one.
So you were deconstructing them anyway.
So you were kind of hearing that complaint
and doing a meta deconstruction anyways. But Lutz anyway, so you were kind of hearing that complaint and
doing a meta deconstruction anyways.
But Lutz says, would you rather have the power of invisibility or flight?
And he immediately goes, that's a great question.
I would have both.
And then tells a long story about how he would fly full speed into windows, and there would
be a giant thump
and people would look but they wouldn't see it.
Wait, you wrote that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was a look.
You can go see it on Peacock.
And you can see that.
Did it play well?
It did very well.
And I'm gonna, you know what?
I don't want it to sound like I'm, you know,
peacocking here about my success
cause I also wrote
a sketch that ate it super hard in dress, which was a couple going to a Victorian mansion
to visit a guy who had just returned from like Borneo where he captured the elusive
man monkey. And they walk in and there's just a cage that clearly has been like somebody
has escaped from.
And it's just walking, coming in being like, no, I never found him.
I certainly didn't bring him back and have him escape.
And he's just carrying a gun around and just like pulling back.
He's very clearly the man monkey that's escaped in his house anyway.
You know what the problem was?
And maybe you guys have memories of a sketch like this.
In your mind's eye,
like there's a cartoon cage that very
clearly the bars have been pulled open,
and it just was too hard to make it look like.
Like the cage was what you needed
the first laugh off and didn't happen.
So people are like, so he's not in the cage or?
Yeah, it was just bad.
Okay. Well.
And since we're talking about cages,
do you want to brag about how you figured out Cage comedy later at SNL?
By pretending to be Nick Cage and getting celebrities to come on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we'll get there.
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Do you remember at all, Andy, the Grease High School musical rehearsal?
No.
You're in it.
And it's you guys are rehearsing for Grease and you're singing Grease Lightning.
And he's your drama teacher, walk in, and he keeps stopping you because the lyrics are
too dirty.
Because Grease Lightning has like, you know, chicks will cream and he's like, Whoa, whoa, that's way too dirty. Because Grease Lightning has, like, you know, chicks will cream, and he's like,
Whoa, whoa, that's way too dirty.
We have to change that.
And he keeps saying, do you know what that means?
And he, like, points to you, and he's like,
do you know what that means?
And you're like, I think so.
Do you know what that means?
Chicks will cream.
Lucas, do you know what that means?
I think I do, yeah.
Yeah? Come here, tell me what you think it is.
Come here. Whisper in my ear. Yes, you got it. Good for you.
Tell your friends they want to know what it means.
That's right, boys, it's dirty, so.
And then he changes it to Flem.
He's like, we got to change it to something else.
And Bill's like, scream?
He's like, no, that's bad.
Flem.
Who wrote it?
I think Sublette.
Hold on.
I've just said that.
Hold on.
Let me see.
Yeah, Sublette.
Nice.
Well, shout out Sublette. It's a great Sublette sketch, and I really enjoyed watching it.
Again, he says, oh, he says,
pussy wagon, because that's a line in the actual Grease song.
He goes, we have to change that.
And he goes, again, just so different cast members.
He's like, do you think you know what that is?
And it's like, yeah, he goes, come tell me.
He keeps making people whisper, and he's here. Do you know what that means? And it's like, yeah, he goes, come tell me. He keeps making people whisper, and he's here.
Do you know what that means?
You in the back. Evan, do you know?
Come here. Tell me. Tell me.
What is it? Whisper.
No, it's not.
No, it's too little.
Come on. Even Miss Hash knows what this means.
Yeah. Yeah. Too little. Come on, even Miss Hash knows what this means. Yes, finally.
Like pulling teeth.
So great sketch.
Googly eyes.
Oh, yeah.
Googly eyes is an all time great Christopher Walken sketch.
I feel like, in my opinion, it's just an all time great sketch.
Yeah, it's great.
I remember even at the table being like, ooh, that is very funny.
And for whatever reason, just strikes a specific tone
that makes me be like, that's kind of like what
SNL feels like to me in general.
Well, it felt like something that
would have been in the Phil Hartman era or something.
Maybe that's why.
Eric Kenward sketch.
My memory of it was, oh, I remember
there was a sketch where Christopher Walken was
a gardener who put googly eyes
on his plants.
The rewatch was so delightful because it
starts with a title card.
And now it's Pardo and now indoor gardening tips
from a man who is very scared of plants.
And I will say in my head, I'm like, how do they establish
that it's googly eyes?
And literally the first line is, these are my cactuses.
I'm putting googly eyes on them just right right out of it. Yes. And him saying,
googly eyes, like he keeps saying.
Googly eyes. Yeah.
Hi.
These are my cactuses.
I put googly eyes on them.
A lot of people are putting...
googly eyes on their cactuses nowadays.
I think it's because cactuses are dangerous. Cactuses have pricklers that can stab you in your hands,
or your throat, your face.
So you need to know where you stand with them at all times.
The only way to know where you stand with someone
is to look into their eyes, right?
Normally, plants don't have eyes,
so it's hard for me to trust them. Hence, I'm Normally, plants don't have eyes,
so it's hard for me to trust them.
Hence, googly eyes.
He says, "'Hence,' which I liked.
Then he moves over to ferns, and he said,
"'I have googly eyes in my ferns.'"
By the way, rolling delight through the whole sketch.
It is also that great thing,
which is the premise is great, his performance is great.
Also, everybody forgets walking.
There's no reason to forget
because of that great music video.
Fantastic dancer, like grew up dancer first.
Like so light on his feet,
so funny dancing in the grease sketch.
And a couple of times he just gets scared
by plants in this sketch.
It's like, oh, and like just does
like a little shuffle step away from them.
And he says, I have eyes on my ferns.
I got the idea from my cactus.
Got the idea from the first thing.
There's a lot of, it's one idea and yet he keeps acting like he hasn't been clear about it.
Like he says, I don't know if I've been clear about this,
but eye contact is hugely important to me.
It's also like a testament to the thing that when SNL
is really good is when it cuts less.
You're just watching a performance.
Yeah, you're just watching a guy.
You're just watching him do it.
It's really great.
He talks about if a fern killed you,
what would be your last words?
And then he does that great walk-in thing
where he breaks up one sentence into two sentences.
Enough of these ferns launched themselves down your throat.
You choke.
For sure.
It's probably not gonna happen, but what if it did?
What?
What do you think your last thought would be?
Mine would be, I always knew.
It was gonna be the ferns.
But no worries.
Me and these ferns are good.
I can tell.
Looking into their eyes.
That was really good.
What a genius.
Eric Kenward, who wrote,
Googley Eyes sent in a voice note. Let's give it a listen. Okay, so, who wrote Googly Eyes, sent in a voice note.
Let's give it a listen.
Okay.
So, Googly Eyes Gardener.
This is something my grandma Kenward used to really do.
What?
Googly eyes on her cactuses, which is maybe something that Midwestern ladies of a certain
age do or did. And I remember writing this down in my Word document of sketch ideas
at one point just as an observation. Why do people put googly eyes on cactuses in particular?
I thought, I guess it's because they're dangerous and they can hurt you and so people want to
humanize them and make them cute or more relatable. I extrapolated that idea from there.
I don't think I ever really thought about how I was going to write that into a sketch.
I think that's an observation that maybe sat in that document for a couple of years or a year.
I also remember I wanted to write something that had reaction shots of non-reactive things
had reaction shots of non-reactive things. You know, like the Monty Python sketch, confuse a cat where you would cut to a cat for a reaction shot, but they clearly had no idea what was
going on at the Google ads kind of give you that.
I remember writing this very late or very early in the morning on Wednesday before I
went home before read through. It was kind of what we used to call
a fuck around piece. I don't know if you can curse on the show, but that's what we called
them, what we did call them. Obviously, Walken is great at doing sketches by himself and
can really elevate the craziest, wispiest ideas.
And I think that must have been somewhere in the back of my mind, because in hindsight,
it's very weird to write a sketch for just one person.
Also in hindsight, in the context of the show, it kind of gives you the same value as like
the continental sketches that Chris Walken used to do.
And there's not one of those in the show.
But I don't think I was consciously thinking
about any of that when I wrote it.
I think I was just kind of trying to get this idea out.
I also had a cat named Dr. Manhattan
who was very scared of things
and was always kind of going like,
and that's where that came from.
Obviously Walken made it what it was, but that's where that came from. Obviously Walken made it what it
was, but that's where that basic idea came from. I remember sort of being surprised that
it got picked and then it got a very thorough rewrite on Thursday afternoon. There were
a lot of good pitches. It was the first thing that was going to block on Thursday afternoon
because it was like relatively simple.
I remember going to the floor and showing Christopher Walken all the changes and he
was like, no, no, no, it's going to be what it was on Wednesday.
Most of the changes got kind of steadied.
I looked back at the script from Wednesday and it is remarkably similar.
I will say two big changes that Christopher Walken made. Originally,
it was as Jesus said, the eyes are the windows of your head. And he changed head to face,
which is obviously a much better word for Christopher Walken. And then between dress
and air standards had a problem with Jesus. And I got called into Lauren's office, which is something
that didn't happen very often for me at that point.
We were trying to think of alts kind of on the fly or what Jesus could be changed to.
I remember Christopher Walken just said, Winston Churchill, and that's obviously so much better.
Yeah, I mean, obviously the design department did an incredible job. I mean, that giant plant with
the giant googly eyes kind of sells the whole piece. The wig, I think was all Christopher
Walken too. I mean, the look is incredible. The spray bottle, I think was also him, which is,
you know, fantastic. Yes, one of those things that in hindsight, I can't believe actually got on the show. But it's probably my favorite sketch that I ever wrote.
So I'm happy that it did.
Sorry if this is too long. Bye.
That's fantastic.
Thank you, Kenward.
It was fantastic and I had a very similar story.
This is a sketch that we're never going to,
well, now we are going to talk about it,
but there were no plans to talk about Pranksters,
which is a sketch I wrote before you guys started on the show.
Oh, yeah, but we know it.
I wrote a sketch for Christopher Walken,
my second year on the show called
Pranksters, where it was sort of a Nickelodeon prank show
where kids came on and showed video of pranks they pulled.
And then he came on as a Christopher Walken-aged man
whose prank was that he beat his boss
to death with a tire iron.
That's right. What happened? I jumped out and pranked boss to death with a tire iron. That's right.
What happened?
I jumped out and pranked him to death with a tire iron.
What?
Yeah, you should have seen the look on his face, classic.
We quoted that all the time.
We were just fans of the show at home and we were like, that's a good one.
Enough that we remember lines from it.
And he used a lot of the like, like zowie, wowie.
He just got pranked.
It was one of those sketches, and I think it was a little bit like googly eyes, which
is it worked at the table.
It was a real writery idea.
And so sometimes you get to that Thursday rewrite table and you're surrounded by these
other great writers and everybody just starts piling on what are to your tastes really
good ideas.
And then same thing, I brought it down to the floor, walk and read it, he's like, it's
worse.
We're going to go back to the way it was.
And it was so funny, like how he was just like, don't mess with it.
Yeah.
Like, why are you messing with it?
Yeah.
And so it is really funny how, I mean, there's a reason he's been one of the best, I guess,
hosts of that show for so many years.
I got to mention one more.
Harper Steel wrote a sketch where it's
Larry King interviewing Jimmy Carter.
Do you remember this sketch at all?
No.
No.
Jimmy Carter's written a book about his mother,
and Fred is Larry King asking Darryl,
who has an exceptional Jimmy Carter impression. do you think people will read this book?
And Jimmy Carter is just very sort of upbeat the whole time.
He's like, well, I sure hope so, Larry.
Do you think most people who end up with this book
will have gotten it as a gift and not read it?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
You know, I really couldn't say, Larry,
but I suspect that might be the case.
-"Because he's got like, I think Jimmy Carter's written
like 50 books, and so they had a stack of his actual books.
And then it's just a lot of Larry King being like,
You wrote a book of poetry. Do you think anybody read this?
He's like, I don't think about it, no.
But Jimmy Carter's never that upset about it.
And it's just a very funny idea
that's played out very well.
By the way, Ken would mention it,
but I do want to talk about The Continental
because growing up, I saw that sketch many times.
And it's so unique.
I think I was told later that it's based on an old show
or an old movie or something,
but the whole sketch is from the POV of a woman
that is in The Continentalals' apartment, right?
Which is...
Just stylistically on SNL feels...
Like, I don't think anything else has ever been that, right?
Right, definitely not. But I think you're right.
It was an old show that maybe Tom Davis wanted to do.
I know Higgins had a lot to do with it in the later years,
but, yeah, it's really funny and unique.
I mean, it's problematic as fuck.
It is.
He won't let her leave.
He keeps jumping in front of the door and shit.
He's like Pepe Le Pew, basically.
But the performance is so funny.
And there's lines from that I remember for my whole life,
too, like, you are a fiery vixen.
As a little kid, being like, oh, this
is the first time I've ever heard anything like this.
Yeah.
And then we get to where this has always been leading.
It's LaserCats 3.
3D.
3D.
Three whole derfs.
Now, Andy, you texted today that you were not feeling LaserCats
3, 3D on rewatch.
I went into it with an open mind.
I thought it had a couple of yucks,
and it didn't blow me away.
I think I preferred the two prior,
and I think that it's sort of a stopgap one
that then gets to a different phase of Laser Cats
where it gets better again, in my opinion.
What was your take?
Yeah, I just watched it just before this.
I didn't remember it at all.
In hindsight, I just feel like the first half
could have been edited to half the length
and then it would have been good.
Yeah, that's probably fair, yeah.
Because the second half has tons of good bits in a row at the right pace that I didn't remember
and really enjoyed, like getting sucked out of the airlock and then shooting it sideways
so it looks like you're going out of an airlock and then all of a sudden it's the toy action
figure version of Bill and then he's a sudden it's the toy action figure version
of Bill, and then he's back in.
There were other good surprises,
but the first half just kind of settles
into setting up this premise that they live in a world
where a big world leader has made laser cats illegal,
has collected all the laser cats,
but it turned out it was a plot
so that they would be the only one with laser cats so all of a sudden they could take over the world.
I like that while you're explaining it, I really like to think that Tim's
sitting there saying, why did I leave the bar?
No, he's thinking, can I option the rights?
This sounds real good.
Why was that a cool bar?
Guys there had seen Deadwood.
Somehow talking about the minutiae of sketches
from 20 years ago is making your energy wane.
Well, we were debating getting some beers
to come back here with and...
No.
You don't keep beers in the fridge in your apartment there?
Yeah, what's wrong here?
I'm a fool.
I'm a fool.
I find this delightful.
Okay, good.
I love this.
I wanna, if I may, I want to circle back to,
uh, tell me the writer's name who did the plants thing.
Kenward, Eric Kenward.
It's just my favorite thing about anything creative.
I love that someone took something so, uh, specific
and almost pedestrian about their life,
that their grandmother or mother put googly eyes,
and it became this thing that is delightful.
And I love that it was taken so seriously.
I love that there was notes and rewrites,
and then this Oscar winning actor's like,
no, it was better before.
I just love, and I love the same thing about the other,
you guys are talking about, the way you talked about
LaserCats 3D, Annie, was amazing.
I rewatched it.
I thought-
So you were just enthralled of it.
I will say Kenward's grandmother fucking pissed
when she saw it.
Yeah.
Fucking pissed.
Remember she came to the office?
That's right. And Kenward's like, oh, shit. She's like, fucking pissed. Remember she came to the office? That's right. And Ken was like, oh, shit.
She's like, so my life is a fucking joke to you?
This is funny.
And remember, Lorne had to talk to her.
Like Lorne would be like, we're so sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll be sorry when I pop you one.
You guys do realize, though, it's amazing
that the best legendary sort of sketches that you guys are
referring to are being created the same way the best legendary sort of sketches that you guys are referring to are being created
the same way the best creative everything gets made.
It's really wonderful.
Oh, that's good. You know my point, right?
Yes. Yeah.
That we are exactly as good as Deadwood.
Got it. Got it.
Got it.
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So, I feel like we're bearing the lead of one thing
right off the bat, which is there's always a little cameo
of who Lorne is with.
And so, you guys roll a TV into a restaurant.
Mm-hmm.
So, that's a heighten.
You have been in Lorne's office the first two.
Real restaurant too.
And obviously this was someone you asked Lorne,
can you deliver?
Oh, Senator Dodd?
Senator Chris Dodd.
Clearly.
Yeah, we were like,
hey Lorne, is there any, we know it's a long shot,
but we, let's say 30 year olds who work on a sketch show, have a dream.
That's amazing.
To get Connecticut Senator Chris Don.
And Lorne got him. Lorne got him.
He got him.
He delivered. By the way, he did a great job.
Not to jump to the very end, but he's left at the end.
The last guy standing delivers some nice little ending remarks.
He was delightful. I know that him and Lorne are buds, right?
Yeah, definitely. They were probably having dinner together.
I'm sure we were like, could there be someone else you're having dinner with?
And he was like, well, Dodd's in town and we were going to get dinner.
I appreciated that we were out of the office for the Lorne pitch.
We had invaded his dinner and then we got to reuse his office a lot as Christopher Walken's
admiral or chief of the galaxy office.
Yeah.
I will say another little detail I forgot that I liked
was the cat gun salute at the end during the funeral.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, this is sort of an X-Men trope
or a lot of these superhero movies tropes of like,
somebody's like, a populist politician is,
we have to ban superpowers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, we're just watching this right now.
And fucking making Christopher Walken dress up
in this fucking uniform
is so, oh, next level.
He wears it well.
That's where I feel like you're not giving yourself enough credit, Andy,
because Walken's performance in this is so dry.
By the way, he's not Admiral. I believe his name is Captain Ted.
And he is wearing what? like a poker visor,
ray-bands and floaties?
No, those aren't ray-bands.
Those are Christian Slater's shades from True Romance.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And you guys walk in and he's like, whoa, guys,
you have laser cats.
You can't have those anymore.
Yeah, yeah.
They're illegal.
These cats, they're tearing up the galaxy.
I mean, perfect writing for him.
And then you guys are gonna destroy him
and you're gonna destroy him with a gun and a hammer.
These are live cats.
Yeah, yeah.
That was when it got my interest.
Yeah. Yeah, audience immediately like, no!
You point a fucking Glock point blank
at a live cat's forehead.
Yeah. It's good.
And we love them too. We're like, see you later buddy or something.
Also in the beginning of this,
each of you call the other one Kemosabe, which sucks a lot.
Yeah, well that's just classic.
I mean, very deeply funny to me.
Then right before you kill your laser cats,
Keenan announces it was all a plan.
Now he has absolute power because there's no more laser cats.
Oh, also there was a little foreshadowing early in this,
which is Andy's got an eye patch because you had surgery to give yourself a bionic eye.
To be able to hit any target.
Oh, and also there's a moment that flashes on screen
and the title card that is LaserCat's 3D,
not all scenes in 3D.
That's really good.
That's what I'm saying, we've set up a bunch of stuff
in the beginning, then at the end when it's paying off,
I'm like, now this is good.
But there is two minutes where I'm kind of waiting for that
I liked our GPS shot with the sure rocket ship on top of clearly Google Earth
Yeah
I like that the place that the bad guy Kenan's holding all the cats is just the little
Chicken wire cage that the animal wranglers bring cats in in real life. Like where the laziness is just fully like,
yeah, that's the cat cage.
You want to know probably my favorite detail
of the whole thing, Keef,
is the sound effect on the dog laser.
Because it's big and chunky.
Boost.
Boost.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
So once you get to this midpoint,
it's two and a half minutes into a five and a half
minute thing is then you're at the thing I already talked about with the air lock.
Then we do the whole 3D joke.
So you say put on your glasses and I will say Senator Dodd crushes his, when it cuts
to him wearing the glasses, totally worth it.
Yeah.
It's a nice cut away.
Wait, can I put Seth on blast for just a hot second?
Was any of this based on when we watched the premiere of Journey to the Center of the Earth,
which was presented, I believe, at least in part, in 3D?
And Seth, you did a joke, and you're in that movie, correct?
Yeah, Barely.
Barely.
Yes.
Even IMDB says Barely.
He's a scientist. But you do a very 3D joke, correct? In that movie, where you have a pointer and you point
the screen to show off the 3Dness. Am I right?
Yeah. The director had said, let's try to find a 3D moment for you. I was literally
just a guy who was taking Brendan Fraser's office over. Yeah. So I had a tape measure.
And so there was a moment where I like point
the tape measure right at camera.
That's so sad.
Everyone in the crowd was ducking,
he's going to measure us.
Oh no, that tape measure is going to get me.
Yeah.
I always say that I'm in two scenes in Journey
to the Center of the Earth.
And the thrust of my two scenes is,
you can't go to the center of the Earth.
And then my other scene is, what, huh?
ALL LAUGHING
Those are the bookends to the film.
That's an important arc to the story.
Yeah.
Did you say this, Jerome?
Didn't we go to the premiere of that
because you were in it, Seth, and we all hung out?
We did, and then I then went directly from that
to Chris Kattan's wedding.
Wow.
Which is only notable because it's
where I met Alexi, who I am now married to.
Ah.
Oh, so hell of a weekend.
So sure.
Did Journey open?
Not really, but.
It opened some minds.
Yeah, it opened some minds about the center of the Earth.
Certainly opened some eyes when that tape measure came at him.
Yeah, it opened some minds about the center of the Earth.
Certainly opened some eyes when that tape measure came at him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, you guys have to fight Kenan,
and that's rewarding, I thought.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, the little baby puppy pug with the big boobwhip
that you're talking about, the fact that we just let a cat
and then a baby puppy pug just roam around on the ground,
and then we added a bunch of lasers as if they're having a knock down brawl.
I thought that was really good.
You didn't like that, Andy?
I liked it still.
I liked it fine, it was cute.
Say baby puppy pug 10 times fast.
Baby puppy pug.
Baby puppy pug, baby puppy pug, baby puppy pug,
baby puppy pug.
Well, my man Key, you got the verbal dexterity on the M.I.C.
I also liked that you're trying to shoot the lock
and Bill can't shoot it because it's so far away.
And then you have a flashback bubble to you saying
you're getting a bionic eye surgery.
And it really made me laugh because that was literally
like 90 seconds.
Yeah, it was 90 seconds prior.
You're like, remind me.
We did know that that was why it sucked and was funny
for sure, yeah.
But you know, good stuff, fine.
And then you guys get medals, and the cat did die.
Yeah.
Yeah, there is a cat that died.
Which one died?
The one that fought the baby puppy bug?
And yeah, then there's a 21 cat salute,
and it's just fun to watch people cock cats like guns.
The bravery beyond the call of duty, I present these awards to Admiral Spaceship, Nitro.
Fire.
Fire.
Fire.
Fire. Fire.
It's also our casting is so good.
That's the whole like post editorial kind of staff.
Yeah.
And they've just got just the right look.
Who's in there?
Nick is in there.
Who's in there?
Pool.
It's Pool.
Mike Pool.
It's Yonks.
Matt Yonks.
And it's Nick Mullardy.
Nick Mullardy.
And then when we get back to the restaurant, Lauren has left and it's just Chris Dodd.
So Lauren, what'd you think?
He went home, but I loved it.
Really?
No.
Enjoy your meal. Bye.
I was really hoping he did like it.
That would be your rewrite?
Yeah, just let us have the win.
Yeah, but that's pretty classic lonely island, right?
Like, hey, this was a bad idea.
Let's watch it.
Hey, it was a bad idea.
It's classic laser cats, that's for sure.
All right, so it seems like there were things to like in it, but maybe not Criterion Collection. I think that's right. Correct. Yeah. Not an embarrassment or anything.
No. And can I say about the episode, and I know we've not been doing this, this is a Criterion
episode of S&O. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff.
Can I say something controversial?
Say it, Yarm.
Yeah.
I think that out of the seven laser cuts,
there was one for every season that Andy was on the show.
I think that I would say only one of them,
I would say the first one is Criterion
and none of the other ones.
Is that fair?
Well, you're getting ahead of yourself.
I don't know about that.
You probably wouldn't put both.
OK.
OK. We'll see. We've got four more to go. You probably wouldn't put both. Okay, okay, okay.
We'll see, we've got four more to go.
You think there's gonna be a later one that tops it?
I just don't know that the first one
would be the one I would pick.
Got it.
I just am gonna read off some of the names
of people who wrote sketches in this episode.
Steele, Fay, Karlux, Sublette, Sudeika,
Sandberg, Schaffer, Wig, Anderson, Grandy, Kenward, Sawyer, Solomon.
It's almost as if it was Anne Golden era.
Felt it coming.
All right, I have a comment.
Oh, great.
This person's wondering,
how far ahead do I need to comment on this video
to get on the pod?
Oh, that's your answer.
Right there.
You did it.
Three years ago, somebody wrote, the best part, I think,
is that despite hating LaserCats,
Lauren still had the professional courtesy
of using the 3D glasses during the 3D scene.
I think that's fair.
Well, he wanted to see.
I mean, no one can say no.
If you go, hey, it's 3D, he'd be like, oh, shit, really?
Yeah.
That's true.
This person says, wasn't as good as LaserCats 2.
It was better.
Oh, shit.
Was that a dot dot dot?
That was from two months ago.
Wait, who said that?
Who said that?
Alex Wallach7683.
I knew it.
The names always roll off the tongue.
This person appreciated they added pool floaties and a bingo visor to Christopher Walken's
costume.
It really gives that spacey futuristic officer look.
Appreciate that. Guys, we were talking about maybe doing
around the holidays a quick episode where we go back through all the shorts we've done so far
and actually clarify whether they're criterion or not. Because I think we've been a little loose
with it. Alan Taylor
And then have Nan Golden on as a guest. Jonathan Bauder
Our listeners don't know that. Jonathan Bauder
We'll hear him out.
Nan Golden.
I thought when you kept saying, Nan Golden earlier,
I was like, is he making a Nan Golden reference?
Ah.
The whole Nan Golden era.
It's a Nan Golden era.
Thank you.
Oh my god.
Thank you.
That's what I thought you were doing.
Jesus Christ.
I was like, why is all of a sudden Tim talking
about Nan Golden?
Because it's right here.
It's a Nan Golden era.
Isn't that what you've been talking
about this whole time?
Our time at SNL was truly Nan Golden era.
Nan Golden era.
Shout out to Nan Golden era, who, you know,
one of the tipping point people against the Sacklers
during the opioid crisis for real and you know, and that's what I think in a way why our cast was Nan Golden era
Is we stood against Big Pharma? You're welcome. That's right
I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't worth it having Tim here until then Golden Era, but
it certainly paid off at the end.
For sure.
Okay, so what time next week?
I mean, an hour later than this.
I think we want to see how far we can push it.
Don't worry.
We'll figure it out.
We'll be in LA next week.
All right, so next week is, oh boy!
Oh boy.
Gnarls Barkley.
Oh boy.
Ashton Kutcher, Gnarls Barkley, and you guys.
I'm excited about this one.
Dackery Girl.
Dackery Girl.
Maybe we can get the truth from Danger Mouse finally on a little voice note.
Yes, get a fucking note from Brian.
Yeah.
I don't want to spoil Dackery Girl,
but good news, Dackery Girl doesn't need my help
to spoil it.
Ha ha ha.
He was spoiled on the shelf.
It was self-spoiled.
All right, I love you guys.
I love our Finland contingent.
Thanks for staying up so late.
That was great.
That was so fun.
I love you guys.
Love you.
Love you too.