The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Over Your Dead Body

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

On this episode of The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast we're taking it to the heartland with the realest hosts of the pod, Jorm and Kiv. These two regular salt of the earth "non-hollywood" dudes are getting down into the weeds and discussing Jorm's movie Over Your Dead Body (out this Friday April 24th). Listen for a discussion about theaters, an answer to why the movie was shot in Finland, voice notes from Jason Segel and Samara Weaving, and a very important update on the ALF cinematic universe! Please go see the movie Quaids so that Jorm doesn't get depressed. He's already on all the pills. There's nowhere left to go. Go see Over Your Dead Body on April 24th Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGxKTIegUZ4 Watch Digman! Trailer | https://youtu.be/-h08VAt8fPI?si=_a_dU8YQcfwZaucx Download the apps app and go get Netflix or go here: https://www.netflix.com/ Watch Naked Gun on Prime https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Gun-Akiva-Schaffer/dp/B0FH2XTQVH Send us an email: [e-mail] Send us a voice note: https://www.speakpipe.com/thelonelyisland Send us stuff: P.O. Box 4024 New York, NY 10185 Photos and everything else can be found by following us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod (Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod. HomeChef For a limited time, Home Chef is offering our listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to https://HomeChef.com/island. Must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert. Shopify Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://SHOPIFY.COM/lonelyisland Aura Frames For a limited time, listeners can get 25 dollars off their best-selling Carver Mat frame with code ISLAND. https://on.auraframes.com/ISLAND IFC Go See Over Your Dead Body only in Theaters on April 24th tickets on sale now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Keeve, I'm so glad to finally get the riffraff off of this pod. You know what I mean? Like the pretty boy famous faces are finally fucking gone. Now we can get really real. Yeah, and talking about our shit. Oh, Lonely Island, Seth Myers podcast with just Yoram and me where we get real. Yeah, we're taking it to the street. Yeah, not those weird elites.

Andy and Seth are such. Hollywood elites, not you and me, man. This is for flyover country, but we don't call it that. No, me and you are flyover country, me and you are. We're the heartland. The heartland of the pod, finally. Finally. Not those coastal elite shit heads.

Those fucking bastards, they signed their souls to the devil so they can get famous. Not you and me, man. We're pure. No, we're director raised on corn husks and alfalfa. That's who of us. That's right. Now, Yoram. Yes, Keeve.

Before we get into it, we're here to talk about your movie. Yeah. And anybody who clicked in knows that because it's the title. But you did it for me with Nick again. So this is, you know, the week it's coming out. Tip for tat. It's coming out this Friday in theaters. It is, yeah.

April 24th. Go get tickets, guys. It's actually genuinely very important because opening weekend really matters. Also, this movie is so fun to see in theaters. Okay, okay. We're going to get to that. But listen. Listen, does it come out internationally?

I don't have any idea. I don't think so. You should know that. We should find out. You think this is just domestic this weekend? I think it is. I think it is just domestic. But it's going to go as wide as possible.

So it will be like around. It's going to be in like at least 1,500, possibly 2,000 theaters. So the pot will get back to, we were in the middle of kind of the John Hamm episode. We had done Shireani 2, Ronnie and Clyde. And then we wanted to hear from John Hamm. We wanted to talk about some of the other shorts. or sketches rather. So we'll get back to that.

And this week, I did the pop star screening, and I was the only one because Andy is still shooting his movie, and you had dates on either side of it, you know, on the East Coast and New Orleans and stuff. Yeah, I was super bummed on to go. How was it? But it was wonderful. So thank you.

There was a lot. I mean, when someone yelled Quaid Army, almost the entire place did it. So clearly it was a bunch of people that will hear this. Dude, I've been going around the country. now and it's been every screening. And it's like, I wouldn't say it was everyone, though. It was like maybe

40%. And so for the, or maybe half. But like, that makes it so you have to then be like, hey, for those of you who don't know, we have a podcast. Well, so this was moderated by one of the two Daniels. Daniel Shiner, he's just the best

for doing it for people that don't know. The Daniels did like everything everywhere all at once and the Turned Down for What video. They're pretty. I like that those are your two touchdowns. Those are my two. And the turn down for what. Yeah. I mean, those are, they did a lot of amazing things, but those are two of the standouts in my mind.

You know, they did their farting corpse movie, as everyone calls it, of course, Swiss Army Man. Swiss Army Man is fantastic. Anyways, but he moderated, which was very sweet. And I would say it was 60% of the audience who fell like were 50. And then he was starting to try to explain Quaid Army. And I was like, just don't bother the, enough of this people know. But it was so fun. And it was at this theater in L.A. called the Egyptian Theater

that Netflix bought a few years ago and renovated for like $70 million. And it's a single screen like Old Hollywood Theater on Hollywood Boulevard that I had never been in before. They're definitely going to make their money back on that one for sure. For sure they've made $70 million now. But then there's a company or whatever you'd want to call it called American Cinematheque that does the programming for the Aero Theater in Santa Monica and the Los Felis 3, are both very small theaters, kind of on either ends of parts of L.A. And then this is kind of right in the middle. And they do amazing.

Like, I'm just so glad that things like it still exist. Because it's kind of like New Beverly and the Vista, too, the Tarantino ones, where every day you can check and all of a sudden it's like, oh, they're playing the fugitive today or some old Humphrey Bogar movie or whatever. Oh, dude. I mean, you came to our L.A. premiere at Vidiots for... Oh, yeah, that's another one, Vidiot. Yeah, yeah.

That does amazing. They had just played beaches. What is the slope like? What is the rake like at the Egyptian? Because it matters so much. Now, having gone to so many different theaters around the country for over your dead body coming on this Friday, April 24th. Like, the rake matters so much. It's almost like when Brian was telling us about low ceilings and how it really affects performance for when we were doing a live show.

But, like, it's the same thing with theaters where, like, a low rake is so nice for theaters. It just, like, laughs. Like, it feels so punchy. You're talking about old school theaters. Oh my God, they're the best. The slope, you were just barely seeing over the head in front of you, if at all. And if a tall person sat in front of you, you were screwed. Yeah.

But what it did do is by having normal seats, not recliners and stuff like that, and having them right next to each other and with not a big, you know, slope in front of you, rake. What's another word for it? I don't know. The grade. Grade. Yeah, exactly.

Like, it creates a sense of community between the audience way more. Is that what the Egyptians like, too? Yeah, you hear your neighbors. So the Egyptian was somewhere right in between. It was actually really good. Yeah. Because it wasn't like the theaters we grew up with where it's almost flat, where you really could get screwed with somebody tall in front of you,

especially when we were kids. Yeah, so it was a little steeper than that. But I think that's what you want. You want like a little bit so you're right over the person's head, but it still has that sense of community. Exactly. Because you really feel it. Like movies like pop star.

Yeah, with movies that are asking for an audience to interact with it, you know, laughing or being scared or whatever. Yeah, it makes a huge difference. The weekend naked gun came out, and I went around to those theaters. It was not a bummer, but it was interesting going to the ones that were the most luxurious for the audience, where everyone gets their own big recliner. Because you're in an auditorium that should fit 200 people, and instead it's like 75 chairs. And you really, even when it killed and everyone laughed, it didn't feel like the other theater down,

just even in the same. It's because the sound is going in a straight line. If it's going right over people's heads, you're actually not hearing the person behind you laughing. And it really matters. It's so, like, it's so fun to see, like, a comedy or, like, especially, like, with a movie, like, ours, like, traveling around the country or pop star or anything that we've made. Like, it's so fun to see the reactions. Like, South by was amazing.

Like, you know, we won the audience war with that. But, like, the one in Chicago was so fantastic. I just went to one in Orlando. That was incredible. That was recliners, but it was more of. that kind of rake sort of thing. So it was like, it was almost like being in someone's living room, honestly. And that was, oh, God.

I'm really bummed. I miss the pop story one. You know it was interesting just talking, nerding out about theaters for one more second. So the night, the Saturday night or Friday night, I can remember when I did the little going around L.A. looking at different theaters, I went to the Universal City Walk. And there was a screening that was like, let's say, an 8 o'clock and an 8.30, right? And so I kind of peeked my head into it. I introed one and then I peeked my head into the other.

and they were such a different experience. Like, the people that were in one theater was like a 300 seat or 250. They were both sold out, but it felt sold out. Do you know what I mean? Like, it felt like a giant energy because it was a lower rake and not the huge seats.

They're still big padded seats, but not the ones that are, like, creating all this space around you. And the screen was huge, and it was properly masked, you know, like meaning the movie, you know, is 240, and it was black all around it, so it felt really clean.

Not like when you go into certain theaters, and it's almost like when you're watching on TV and you can see the black, like gray letterboxing around it because they, you can still see this. Projecting the, like, the map. You can, yeah, like, or you can just see the part of the screen

that's not being used, essentially. This was not it. It was perfect, and it was huge, and it was loud. And it was like, my dream way, someone sees the movie. And then we had a bunch of friends, their whole family had gone and seen it

in the neighboring theater. Like, still the universe. They're in this. same complex. So they would think they're having the exact same experience. Yeah. But theirs was the other way that I was talking about with the like the recliners and the bad screen and the sound didn't look as good. And it's interesting because it's a different experience. But all those people would leave saying we saw it at the same theater, the same night, but they didn't really even have the same experience. Yeah. Having said that, the movie comes out Friday and you should see it regardless of what the theater experience is like. Because here's the thing. Yeah. It's not the same as streaming for any.

You're not wrong. All right, but wait, one last thing, and then we'll really get into it. This is a good segue, actually. So I'm watching Pop Star. It looked great, by the way, and sounded great because this theater's been redone, so it was playing off DCP. It's the first time I saw with an audience since the premiere. It was a real treat.

I wish you guys have been there. And it gets towards the end, and it's the scene where Andy has put on prosthetics and has gone to visit you at a nightclub. And people have been making fun to him. Sarah Serban said he kind of looks like a Matthew Modine, if he had like stung by bees or something, et cetera, Nazi promaganda. And then it gets to your part, and it turns into Jason Siegel.

This is what you want to start with? Well, this is the transition. This is a segue. It's called a segue way you are. So you say you kind of look like Jason Segal right now. And he goes, oh my God, yeah, like Sarah Marshall, like from forgetting Sarah Marshall. And you're like, oh, my God, I love that movie.

I love that movie too. Yeah. And then he's kind of like, hey, and he started doing an impression. Like, Sarah Marshall, I'm, oh. I'm going to forget her kind of, and he kind of does these, like, kind of dopey little looks that actually do feel pretty Siegel-esque in hindsight now, having just seen Segal a lot in your movie. And we worried about it after we did. We're like, God, it's really funny. We're saying we like him and we like his movie.

We do like Segal in real life. We didn't know him that well, but we had all interacted with him at various times. And Jed Apatel, who produced Pop Star, of course, produced for getting Sarah Marshall and made freaks and geeks. So he's to work with him since he was a child. Yes, he had discovered Jason and worked with him since he was a child, exactly, since he was a teenager. Yeah. So we really just were like, Judd, can we, is what's going on here? Should we take this out?

And he's like, no, I think Jason will be fine with this. And we are like, do we, should we like show it to him? Like, what do we do? We don't want to make him mad for no reason. It's not even our style of joke, really. No, we don't like making fun of, we don't like make fun of people at anyone. Yeah. And he just kind of said, no, just roll with it.

It's fine. Yeah. And we just kind of went, oh, okay. Okay, but it made us uncomfortable exactly for that reason because we're not usually... It still makes me uncomfortable. We don't. I mean, obviously, more so now, having worked with you. It's a little bit like your Pam joke from, I think, I could prefer that.

Yeah, from my hit song. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just years later, you're like, what did I do? She was like, that's why I wanted to make Nick again because I love that joke so much. Well, to answer your question, me and Jason have never talked about it. Oh, hell, yeah. Let's get a fleece note. right now this is the time

he sent a voice note but it's not about that but let's if I'm being honest what I thought was going to happen was because I was so geek that he was going to do the movie it was so such a perfect role for him he's sympathetic but like obviously he can go dark he's a great actor he can also

do comedy obviously incredibly well did it like for all those reasons I was like fuck this guy's perfect and I was like he's gonna say yes and then right before the movie is about to shoot he's gonna be like fuck you This is for saying he looked like me. I'm bailing on your shit.

Got you back. Bing bong. That'd have been a great prank. But you know what? It's not too late for the second half of that prank. We don't know. Yeah. He's probably doing some talk shows this week.

Maybe he'll be like, you know what? Yeah. Maybe he'll show up in prosthetics that look like you. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. He's in a lot of prosthetic makeup in this movie. And I will say, like, he looks, he gets so fucked up. He wears his arc of his,

of his character on his face and body in this movie. And so there's a ton of, like, crazy special effects makeup. And by the end, he's pretty fucked up looking. Yeah, he's a little swollen. No spoilers. This is a spoiler-free interview today. Yeah, yeah. But you can see it from the trailer.

He gets pretty torn. His face is a bit swollen. Yeah, we'll try to do no spoilers, but it is. There's some other things. Well, no, what's good about this movie, though, is that there's so many twist and turns. It's very hard to, like, ruin everything because this movie goes in, way weirder places. No, let me say the nice things. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry. Yeah, you go.

There's so many twists and turns in this. And it's really nice that. What if you don't like twists and turns, though? You know what I mean? Like, then I'm just like just saying what it is. What if you're more like someone that wants to be on the Autobahn and just kind of, you like going fast, but straight. You like mundane, the mundane. No, no, fast. It's fucking dangerous. But it's just a straightaway. I want my story points to be.

To be exactly where I think they should go, hell, there's a McDonald's. I've been to McDonald's before. Yeah. I'm trying to think of a good movie. that just goes from A to B. That's it. B's the end. A's the beginning. It's a straight line. What's a good road trip movie? You know? I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Well, now they still always put twists and turns. These fuckers, these Hollywood elites. Not us. I don't like the twist and turns. That's why I have. Yeah, we're corn fed. Support comes from Home Chef. Home Chef is helping all of us. Reset with simple recipes,

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because I want to really put some Norwegian stank on it and I hope that's how you actually say it. But Tommy, who did Violent Night, he's done a whole bunch of other movies. He was on set with my producer for this movie, Guy Dinella, and apparently every day he was quoting McGruber and pop star and hot rod, like over and over. And Guy, like, who is a real go-getter of a producer.

Like, I've never met anybody like this dude was like, let's call him, let's call that guy. like let's hit him up and so uh he called me we had like an hour long conversation but he like out of blue hit me up we like vived out for like an hour the ven diagram of what tommy does and what i do is similar in that like Tommy's like an action comedy guy and i'm comedy action so like there's a bit crossover there so i was like yeah like i love Tommy stuff and so then a week later guy called me up and was like hey i don't know if you'd ever would you ever want to do a remake and i was like no like absolutely not

Like, I have no interest in that. And he was like, well, just, just watch this movie that Tommy did. He was a couple of years old. It was like, I think right before the pandemic, which is even crazier to, like, do a recent remake. But he was like, it's on Netflix. It's called The Trip. I watched it. And then I, he was like, and just read the script.

And I couldn't get it on my head. The script is by Nick and Brian of Britannic, the sketch comedy troupe. They're really fucking funny dudes. And I couldn't get the movie out of my head just because of kind of what I was talking about with the, it doesn't move. how you think the movie's going to move, which I really appreciate it. So the structure of it was really exciting for me. How different, these are genuine questions

that I've never asked. How different is the script that you read from the original Finnish movie? It is very much the same movie, which was another part of it that I was like, oh, man. Even the comedy's the same? The comedy, okay,

this is the major difference between the two films. It's actually, I think, really fun to watch the difference. Obviously, I want everyone to go see ours first, because it's coming up this weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you turn on Netflix, there's this cartoon, actually,

that you could watch. It's called Digman. Oh, yeah, Digman. Yeah, check that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got anything else out? And I assume that they could get in his own. What's it on?

Prime, Prime. And Paramount Prime. Yeah, also, if you're on Prime, check out Last One Laughing. Fucking great show. Anyway, but like, but this is actually in the theaters, guys, so you can't see it streaming.

So, but the major difference, though, between the two movies is like the original, The comedy is sort of coming out of a very dark place. Like, it's a very emotionally dark movie, which is exactly what Tommy wanted it to be. I love the original, but it's also like, that's not me. And it's not really Nick and Brian. So with, I wanted the characters to be more sympathetic than they are in the original.

Like the original, like, they're going to murder each other. And it goes hard in this version for sure. But I really wanted to earn, I don't want to ruin anything. but like, but their relationship and the arc of their relationship in this version. So that was like very instrumental in like hiring Jason and Sam, like the chemistry between the two of them. There's a big shift in this movie in that the Juliette Lewis character

is a major difference of like the addition of her. And it really creates a sort of symmetry with the relationship stories in this movie, which I think is very different than the original. So it's both very much the original structure. Again, nobody has seen it, but Tim Oliphant and Julie. Julius are a couple are a different couple in the movie. Yeah, yeah, so that's a major difference. And then I think that like the other thing is just I'm pushing the comedy.

Weirdly, like in making a remake, I didn't want to make the like the American like this is a softer version. So it's it's a more violent movie and I think actually weirdly gory. But it's all, I'm all pushing everything into a more comedic kind of realm. Well, this movie was like a trick of like keeping all of these different tones. alive and then stitching it all together with the comedy and like creating a cohesive tone, which I was like, it was like the challenge of the movie. That's why I wanted to do it. I'm very proud that I think that we actually achieved that. And honestly, like, one of the big things was like, can I make something that I think is as good as the original? And I think

we achieved that. So that was really the reason why I wanted to do it. I never watched the original because I'm on team Yorma. You know what I mean? I mean, you should. You should. It would be fun to watch the original. What if I like you more, though? That would really fuck me up. Sure. And then the funny part to me is that, so it's a Finnish movie. Yes. Tommy is from Finland.

No, no, no, no. Tommy's Norwegian. No, no, he's Norwegian. We shot it in Finland, yes. Well, your movie, no, no, no. But what about his? Is his movie Norwegian then? His original. Yeah, it's shot in Norway, Norwegian actors in Norwegian, yes.

Got it. It is a full sentimental value. Full Euro, yes, European production. Full sentimental value. Just say that. That's clear. Sure. Okay.

So then, so, and it's also about family drama. So they're very, they're kind of like sister movies. Anyways, the Finland part of it. Yeah. Then where does Finland come into the picture at all? So one of the production companies, XYZ, had done a movie with Karen Gillen, who's a producer on this film, an executive producer on this film. And the way it came about, Nick, one of the writers, is married to Karen.

They were shooting a movie for XYZ. in Finland called Duel. And then it came about that the script was up. They had rights to the script. And they asked Nick and his partner Brian to write the script. So they had a connection to Finland already. They loved shooting in Finland. And then when it came time to shoot this movie,

my options, because it's a cabin on a lake, there are I think 17,000 lakes in Finland. And when it came time to share my two options for budgetary reasons were Winnipeg and, Finland. Well, wait, well, you should say the movie takes place in upstate New York. Yes. The setting is, like, it starts like their, where's their house supposed to be when they're at home? We're a neighborhood in New York. Where are they supposed to live? Oh, oh, oh, I mean, like, I was always thinking it was like Astoria in Queens, but like... Right. So they live somewhere in the city, and then they're driving up to a cabin in upstate New York somewhere. And so it had to look like that. Yeah, she's an actress. He's a sort of hacky director. She's like doing off-Broadway stuff, and he's like, they're like, they're, like, It's about a couple who is on the outs in their relationship and has lost their way, and they both decide to kill each other, unbeknownst to each other. Calling them hacky feels a little harsh because he's doing commercials and you do a lot of commercials.

Well, okay, not hacky. His life is not gone where he wanted to go directorially. But directing commercials is, you know, for some people, that could be the whole dream and that would still be hard to achieve. That first scene, I wrote that first scene, and it is verbatim. I could tell it felt like you on like a Pepsi ad being told to put the Pepsi on screen. Pepsi ad was fine. Cruel. I did.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Calling them out. Hey. We'll bleep them. All right. So, Finland looks a lot like upstate New York. Oh, and by the way, when I was driving from Helsinki to where we shot, second biggest city in Finland called Tempere.

which is like 200,000 people, perfect, like perfect location. Like, we found this amazing cabin. It was so awesome. Cabins in Finland, bizarrely don't have running water a lot of them or bathrooms, which I did not understand at all. So where do people, is it like outhouses? I don't know. There was no outhouse built into this cabin either. So I have no idea where.

So they're like camping, indoor camping. Yeah, and then how do you get water? Is there like a pump thing outside? I don't. I don't know. they had a sink. I never really even tried it, but there was no bathroom in this cabin. We did up like a build on stage. So like the interiors are all on stage there. But yeah, it was, it was a fantastic. Are there proper sound stages in that little city in Finland? No, dude. And we were the options that we had for sound stages. We ended up in like a big warehouse that they would use to store boats in the winter. That makes more sense. And so they, so there were some boats in our warehouse at one point. And then one of the options was we were going to be in a pick. ball stadium. Like that was one of the places that we were,

yeah, it was like a huge, but like a really nice pickle ball. Like, it's like where they film the All-Star. Have you ever looked at any of the photos of when they shot Home Alone where they built the stage? No, no, where is that? It was in Chicago or out, you know, suburbs of Chicago, and it was a...

I love that you know that. I think it was a high school and it was in like the gymnasium and in the swimming pool and stuff. Wow. It just like was random. That's like how much he was in Chicago. I don't want to, I'm sure someone will correct me in the notes, but I just remember it.

John Hughes just wanted to, like, be right down the street from his house. Well, yeah, because the whole movie's in Chicago, right? And then so, and the house, the real house from the exteriors was. Yeah. So they just had to find somewhere, but of course there was no soundstages. I wonder if they did it, like, right close to all their other locations. Yeah, I don't know. Everything was pretty close.

It was like, it was very easy to get around. And, honestly, like, everything in this movie just sort of fell into place. And I really, and then, honestly, shooting in Finland was like, it became like destination wedding like where it's like because we're all just stuck together like it just super bonded the cast I had way more time to like be able to like

actually rehearse things which is great and then and we all spent Thanksgiving together. Yeah no one has it is the I always am pushing to shoot in L.A. so that we can sleep in your own bed and see your family and stuff but then that is the benefit

of it's the same as when we did Hot Rod in Vancouver when you force everybody to go somewhere where nobody knows anybody then It's summer camp and everybody just gets to know each other in a really different way because nobody has anything to do. So on Saturday afternoon, it's like, well, I'll have a barbecue at my house or let's all go see a movie. Dude, on a Sunday, I literally peeled like Tim off and was like, hey, let's make this little music video. So I made like a 30 second music video with him. I was like, all right.

It's a perfect use of time. Guys, Yorm here, special video message. I know we don't usually do that. The movie is coming out Friday. I'm so excited about it. I really, really hope you guys see it in the theaters. It would make me so happy. It's such a fun movie to see in the theaters.

I've been traveling around the country, showing it to audiences. It's been raucous. We won the Audience Award in South By. I'm just going to keep saying that. It is really such a good time. The cast is awesome. So please see it. And IFC has sponsored our podcast this week.

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Oh, okay. Because I am considerate. Yeah, you're real considerate. Should we renew our vows, fucking do it on the table? You are you? I hate to overstep. It seems like you guys have some marital issues.

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Let's talk about Cass if you've got some good voice notes. So Segal, we, you know, fans up, but we kind of met him over the years. And then... I met him, like, I met him, like, playing piano at Chateau Marmont. That was, like, where I first saw and said hello to him. He would never remember that. But, yeah, and I was like, that guy's really good at piano. I went to, if you recall, I went to the set of Knock.

up before shooting Ha-Rod to just have seen a movie set since I had never seen a real studio movie set. Just because you were like, oh, what's this going to be like? Yeah, we might have talked about it on the Ha-Rod episode, so forgive me the quids and quads. That's paying respect for, you know, across the pond quads. Yeah, I got you. For the quids and quads. Oh, wait, let me just take a total detour.

I texted you guys. I saw a comment on the YouTube video from last time, and I thought it was really. worthwhile. So this is, an episode isn't going to be complete if it doesn't mention Alph. And I know the other guys aren't here, but I just would be remiss not to talk about. Sure. We were going off last week, Yom, about what if it turned out he wasn't an alien and that was just the dad's lie because he had fucked it, Ardvaric and brought it home. I mean, everybody that's listening to knows everything I'm saying already. It's obvious. I mean, I don't know. And he told him like, this is an alien to his family, but really it was just his bastard child, who he wanted to raise now and have in the house.

and he made up all the stuff. And then this was the comment. It was if in the finale of Alf, the mom has a Kaiser-Sose-style scene where she sees Melmac plate in the cupboard and puts it all together, realizes it was all a lie that her husband had made up.

She reads the back of the plate and goes, Melmac, wait, maybe this thing wasn't an alien. I like thinking that the show Alf wasn't weird enough. Maybe my husband, And actually smoked... Maybe he smoked... A fever dream of...

Maybe he smoked fucking fucked an art vark. Maybe that's more realistic and brought home. Anyways. The 80s was a better decade. Maybe it was possible. Make sure you beep what I said, of course. As is, as we do. All right, that was a good little break.

It felt important. Yeah. All right. So, Samarrow weaving. Yes. I've never met her. I saw her at Vidyats at the L.A. Premier from afar.

She was nine months pregnant. She's the fucking jam. I've been a fan of hers. I mean, I'm sure I'd seen her in something else, but our friend Matt made Ready or Not and Ready or Not too. And when he made Ready or Not, I was like, whoa, where did this woman come from? She's so funny and likable and gorgeous.

Yeah. And, I mean, obviously just the rarest find of a movie star. Yeah. And I know you talked to Matt before casting her and got the, you know, the full-throated, oh, yeah, she's amazing. I was genuinely nervous for how good-looking she is of like if this was going to make sense and did that. And then couldn't have been more of a you have to hire her from Matt.

Like she's unbelievably. She's just like such a fun person to be around, but like does the work. She's a great actress. And she really, really is. And it was honestly like that was one of the other things that I really enjoyed about doing this movie is that there are quite a few real like sit in a moment. acting scenes. Like, I hate to say real, quote unquote, acting scenes, but, like, there. And to, like, leave the camera on actors, not interrupt, like, let scenes play out, let people

have facial movements and process things and blah, blah, because there's a lot going on in this movie that's, like, backstory that if you watch it the second time, you'd be like, oh, this is a different, I don't want to ruin anything, but, like, but, yeah, she's, she was phenomenal. She's also, like, so fun and nerdy. Like, Sam was obsessed with. and probably still is obsessed with Prince of Persia, the video game, and her. And Jimmy Warden, who she is married to, wrote Cocaine Bear, really fucking funny, dude. We've actually, for a party over here, we're trying to work with him on a show and his writing partner.

But they both love Prince of Persia so much that they had to get two different video game systems because they couldn't share because they wanted to play at the same time. But I'm like, oh, my God, these fucking wonderful nerds. Is there a new Prince of Persia? I used to play it on a computer at home. way back. Really? Like my parents' computer, like, I'm talking about it in high school. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there a new, like... I mean, dude, I think any of those brands that you're like, you can just keep making them better and better and better. I mean, like, as you know, me and my son got obsessed with Breath of the Wild. Like, fantastic. Link has certainly changed over the years. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Look at this. There's Prince of Persia, the Lost Crown, from January 2024. I wonder if that's the one. I mean, will you ask her which one she likes? Yeah, I will. Sam and I were in. in the same building, and she was down the hall from me.

And, you know, occasionally, like, there's a bunch of, like, songs in this movie. And, like, you know, occasionally we would, like, either rehearse at my apartment or her apartment. But it was always very funny to go over there and just hear the sounds of Prince of Persia in the background. And, of course, the Jake Gyllenhaal film version is one of her favorites. Oh, yeah, for sure. Let's just put that out there. Also, Sam, like, just talking about her work ethic, like, she, I don't want to put her on blast, but she, like, a psychopath, like, prints out there. the entire script and then pasts it on her wall.

So the other thing about her apartment was that just all of the lines are everywhere. Like it's like Homeland. Like she's like Claire Danes in Homeland like, like, no, this leads with her, she had the red string connecting all the moments. Yeah. Well, and then talking about Jason Siegel and his work ethic. Like so Jason lived outside of town and he had this place that was like in the middle of nowhere because he's like, he's a romantic. Like he loves being by himself, like experiencing things by himself. And Jason would record, like a lot of actors do that like to learn their lines.

He would record the whole script. So he had a version where he recorded him doing all of the whole script, doing everyone's parts, listen to that. And then he had a different version, which was everyone's lines except his. And he would do the entire script walking around. And like, honestly, when he first got to Finland, he told me that he was like, he got up at like 3 o'clock in the morning. I don't know. He was like on a time zone thing or whatever. But he walked from like 3 to 6 in the.

the morning just listening to the script. Like, talk about dialed in. Like, it was amazing. That's such a... Kind of psychopath almost, you know what I mean? Yeah, but that's such a treat to have actors that are taking it that seriously and know all their stuff. Yeah.

So you can just turn the camera on and they do it. Yeah, I mean, like, I think the only potential disadvantage is that they're so used to doing in a certain type of way that occasionally you have to, like, you know, jar things a little bit because, like, they're so dialed in with the lines, but they may have, like, but warn the grooves a little bit. That's interesting. Like, you can feel that a choice that they made of how to say it has now become

like you do three takes, they're identical because they've already done it 40 times, 100 times at home. So you're... I'm sure you've had this experience before, but like there was one scene, there's a dining room scene that we did. And it even happens with me watching a scene

where it's like you do like, you know, five takes and you're like, those are all great. And then you have to stop and think, like, what would actually be happening in this situation? Like, there's one where he wakes up and he's been tased, which is in the trailers, I'm not ruining anything, but he wakes up and, like,

I hadn't really give him the note of, like, play the groggyness of waking up more. And then that is the take that we use for, like, the first half of the scene. Like, I only got, like, one or two takes of that version, but it's, like, always having to, like... It's surprising when there's something that obvious that because everyone's been sitting with this script for a while

and everyone's in a rush, and you're like, all right, let's bring it up, and then what I noticed, even just shooting this pilot the other day with Jake Johnson and Keith David and everybody. Yeah. Like, they would do two quick takes and then look to me for like a direction

and I'd be like, yo, I need to process this in my brain for a second. Yeah. Like, I don't necessarily have immediate, like, especially if you can tell something's not quite right. You don't necessarily know the answer immediately. Like, sometimes I have to sit there because it can be as simple as like, oh, you're just doing it too fast.

Like, it's a groggy scene. And sometimes you know it right away. Yeah. But sometimes it's... And it's a testament to your actors, right? Because we're working with pretty highly calibrated actors who have done this for years and years and years. So you are, like, taken in with like, oh, you're doing this very well. Yeah, you can get, you can get tricked because they're too good.

But honestly, like a big, a big thing for me. And I weirdly, I really noticed this on when I was doing the Pepsi commercial, the Super Bowl Pepsi commercial with Ben Stiller and Steve Martin, because we had so little time to work with them together. They had like half an hour. And it was one of the moments that I was like, I was very proud of myself to be able to be. like stop the cameras, let's talk, let's figure this out, like together and slow it down.

Like who gets a fuck about time if it's wrong? Yeah. It was like really like those moments where you're like, stop. Nobody stress out. We're going to get there, but sit there, figure out what like what feels wrong. What feels wrong to you? Because it's the other advantage that both of us have is that you're working with unbelievably professional people.

And they're great. Yeah, well, still is always going to be happy to stop everything to figure it out. 100%. But like, I mean, Siegel, Julia Lewis, like, like Tim, like. Like, Tim had great suggestions for things, and you find a lot of things in rehearsal, but, like, but they're great storytellers. So, like, those are, those are for just killer professionals. Oh, unreal. You're never going to get bad takes out of them.

You're just going to get different takes. No, but, but it's even beyond that to me, because, like, there's a moment, and we haven't talked about this, but, like, we were talking through the first, there's a flashback that happens. And it was Tim's suggestion to be, like, it would be neat if at the start of the flashback, there's something that's being said that sort of, like, a mystery of what I'm talking about that is resolved by the end of the flashback. And I was like, that's such a fucking good note. And honestly, like, as a director, I feel like I'm constantly having to be like, like, listen to the good ideas. None of this should be about your ego.

It's like literally like work with the people that have been doing this for fucking years and years and years and like, you know, those ideas that come up, I mean, you know, it's, it feels like such a blessing and you're so grateful when you're like, fuck, that's so much better. Like, thank you for that suggestion. Yeah, it is the best. When we did the naked gun one, did we talk about the scene where the chargers

for the electric car are all getting ripped out of the ground? I think we did, but tell it again. It's just so in the script, all the chargers get ripped out, and the cables are getting ripped out of the ground, and then they go up the wall, just like they do in the movie, and then they rip a big hole in the wall, right? Yeah. But in the script, it said,

police squad swimming pool on the wall, like recreation center and swimming pool. Yeah. And when the wall ripped open, you know, like 10,000 gallons of water would spill out with a bunch of like... A little bit pricey joke. And with a bunch of cops, like big Chicago-looking cops in like little bathing suits that would like spill out onto the ground like fishes, like and flop around like fish. And we really went down the road. Like they had figured out how we could do a tank and how we could do it there.

But then they were like the stunt people can't all be in the water because they could drown while we're getting ready. So they'd have to kind of, you know, like jump, dive into the water. as it's spilling out from the sides, and we'd have to shoot kind of from the side. And we were just going through all this, and it was going to be impossible to reset. Yeah. And then we were like,

God, what else could it be? And we hadn't, like, spent a lot of time thinking about it, but very quickly, Bill Bredski, the production designer, was like, what if it's the prison? And I was like, oh, my God, that's so much better on so many levels. So much better.

That's great. And it's one of the rare, there aren't that many ideas that came from outside me or the writers, sure, Dan Doug. But that's a huge joke. But they happen. They happen. You know, like, somebody is.

And it was like, oh, my God. And you just are so grateful for it, too. You're like, there's all those moments that, like, that happened where it's like, somebody, like, brings you a prop that you're like, oh, fuck, that gives me an idea for this. Like, maybe it's not like the idea that you're used, but, like, it becomes another idea, which is, it's great. Like, I got a question on that. So did you always know that for the credits you were going to have the sort of swim pool?

Because that sort of, like, would cannibalize that a little bit. Like, you know, because at the end of your movie, that you go to, like, the retreat where it's like the, you know, I wouldn't even call it, like, white-collar purpose. Yeah, no, the, we- Because I would have cannibalized it a little bit. You would have already seen, like, cops and bathing suits that are all... You know what, in the script of that, they were at a sandal-style resort, but they were by the beach. And you know what?

I hadn't really visualized how the other cops would look there. So it would have, yeah, you're right. It would have been, like, a similar thing. So even better on that level, too. Even better on that. But also just infinitely were more repeatable. You know, obviously, we had to rebuild the wall and break the wall again. We did it twice.

Yeah. And it's so much funnier. Just like, of course. And it makes more sense. Makes more sense. But it also, like, is with his character of like, you want, like, Liam's character to always be causing more chaos and problems. Yeah, letting out criminals is so much, like, making cops fall out.

Everything is just annoying. Letting out criminals is the complete opposite. Yeah, it just was better on. That's great. Like, it made our other one just suck. I was like, oh, our sucks. That's it. And it was, like, I felt dumb for not having thought of it.

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is seen, you've done these commercials and then, you know, pilots and stuff. and this was, like, this is a little bit different for you. I wouldn't say this is... People sometimes use the word horror, and as somebody who doesn't like horror movies, I don't quite put... I wonder, like, Matt would really know all the, like, talking about horror versus thriller.

To me, like... I was just saying this was dark comedy with, like, you know, it has horror elements, I guess, but, like, or horrific elements. It's a thriller comedy, is what I would say. That the part it takes from horror is, like, it's a little goryer than you think it's going to be. It shows things a little more.

But it could easily, like, if you just didn't show those things, then it just becomes an action comedy. Yeah. Because to me, like, and I might just be wrong, and so I'm sure the comments will do it. Like, horror gets something a little supernatural. Like, even Silence of the Lams is called a horror movie. But when I watch it, I'm like, it's trippy. I mean, it's definitely scary. Yeah, totally.

It is scary. It's a pretty heightened world, too. But it's still because it's in the real world, it feels more like a thriller. Well, the other thing about the word horror, because I'm right there with you. Like, I'm squeamish about a lot of stuff. And, like, one of the things I was sort of proud of because there are some gory moments in this movie is, like, my mom and my mother-in-law, like, have laughed at some of the most horrendous parts of this movie. Like, and I've had quite a few people be like, I'm not usually able to see gore. And, like, because this movie is so funny, it, like, was totally palpable for, like, people that were not, like, super.

It was shocking how big the laughs were on. like I won't describe it here necessarily, but on something that if I just described it is just horrible. Just, you know, somebody being, let's say, stabbed in the head. And the audience was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, just fucking as if it was the funny thing they were seen. But it has to do with how much you know those characters don't want to be doing that. Yeah. And how they can't believe this is what it's come to.

Well, that is, I will say, one of the... the tricks and one of the things that not surprisingly, because especially for like people like you and I who are always trying to sort of push the comedy was like one of the things I had to watch was just like always sort of maintaining the reality, regardless of how crazy the reality gets, which is like this movie goes to crazy places. But it really was important for me to be like if I was pushing the comedy too much and breaking the reality that I was like, I had to pull back. Like there's even, as you saw, like a Lonely Island joke that I had to take out. Oh, right.

Yeah. Wait, well, that's out. So does it ruin anything to say what it was? No, it's not. There was a moment where Timothy Oliphant is on a boat, and then he's just singing to himself, I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat, motherfucker. Wait, whatever happened to those guys,

they still do skits? Yeah. Yeah, that would not have, that would have felt self-indulgent, but also, are you putting together deleted things and stuff, like for iTunes bonus features? Yeah, and I'll say the thing I'm most excited about the, bonus pictures is, but again, see it in theaters. I don't know when this shit's coming out and streaming.

Yeah, maybe we'll never put it on streaming. Yeah, it could easily never be a DVD. You guys, go see it this weekend, over your dead body. But our mutual homie and a guy you scooped many years ago doing the watch, David Need Noggle, David is our like go-to VFX man. He did 300 shots for this movie. And he did an awesome series of like, there's a lot of like pretty. violent gags in the movie and he does a plate like version of like how to do each of these things.

So like a thing, like I'm not going to say what is actually happening. But like, but there's a series of like this is the A plate. This is the B side. Like these are the like blank plate that you need to like make this gag work. And then hilariously, so we're going to put all of that on the extras when this eventually comes out. But maybe it never will is that he's doing it with his like daughters. So it's like his 13-year-old girl, like getting their head like, well, I'm not like. Yeah, yeah.

But it's like, but it's awesome. We had videos of his daughter doing in Pop Star when Andy's doing the quick change thing where it's the cloth tube that goes over his body and it comes down. He's wearing a, you know, a cowboy outfit or whatever. And then he's naked. Obviously not. He didn't do naked. He didn't do the naked. No, no.

He didn't do it with any. Well, he didn't have any of the wardrobe either. It was just with like, she's in a blue outfit. Now she's in a red outfit. It was a proof of concept. Yeah. But even back that. Then it was videos of his daughter.

We've seen those daughters grow up. Yeah, because they're violent. It's super funny. That's hilarious. Doing all the action shit was this. Because, like, for me, I was actually weirdly, like, nervous of, like, the real action stuff. Because this is, like, 87 North, like, who did, like, John Wick and, like, bullet train. Yeah, the producing team that came in, at least you knew you were with people that have done.

You knew the comedy part, but they've done all the action stuff before. And you did this with naked gun, going through, like, the process. And then I'm sure it was very similar in that like you're adding comedy within that. So you're getting all the benefits of these amazing fucking choreographers and they're mocking up stuff. And then you're adding like, I want this to. Because you're sort of trying to like it's almost like the comedy is enhancing the action because it creates these breaks in it where you're getting like a real laugh, especially for your movie obviously. But you're getting like a real laugh and then you're going straight back into the action and like one's enhancing the other. So it was really fun for me to work with these super professional, in the same way it was, I'm sure, for you for naked gun.

It was such a rad experience. So, like, you know, one hand washing the other kind of thing. Yeah, but you guys also had so little time. How many days was the shoot? This was 32. Yeah. And there's a lot of gags. It's just hard when it comes to action stuff because depending on the stunt, things can really slow down for safety reasons and for effects reasons.

I mean, if you're spraying blood, then you take two. Whereas is it a whole new change of clothes to get the blood off and it can slow stuff down a lot too. Did you have any moments that you had to call actual like audibles on set? We had a couple moments we were like a shit because we're not trying to scare anybody

and it's just supposed to be so friendly like in general we would just veer towards it's a cartoon so like it would be like so should his shirt rip and I'd be like nope he'll just be perfect again the next shot because you know he's wearing that suit I mean you barely notice but

Liam's wearing the same suit, the whole movie, basically. That's hilarious. He's just in that gray suit all the time, like a cartoon character. Like that's what he looks like. Like Harrod or McGurber. Exactly. Like, that's just what he wears. Dude, that's just big swing comedy, dude.

That's awesome. He's in a blue suit at one point a little bit, but barely ever. And it was even him. He was like, why don't I just wear this the whole time? And you're like, I think we changed his shirt underneath, but barely. I mean, when they go on the date, when he gets home, you know, then he's in like the sweater and stuff. But days are passing in the movie. You know, the movie's over like...

Right, so in the montage, like when it's meant to convey days and... Yes, and he's in a cabin, so he's in snow clothes and cozy. But, like, days are passing. Then when the montage is over, he's back in that suit, even though it's the next day. So did he get it dry clean? I mean, for this, for this, like, because there's so much special effects makeup,

and they're so good at being like this injury, because it was always like the scene after that you would actually see what had caused the injury. in the previous scene. And you're shooting out of order sometimes, so you're having to create the being like... Yeah, so you prove that all in the beginning of like, this is this, like, this is caused,

this is damage, this is like what happens. But it was happening chronologically in terms of like you see the fight and then in the next scene you start to see the swelling from what happened. So they have to be so on point with like how that... And then the only thing we actually shot out of order really because obviously like I wanted to shoot as much as you can in order was it was so cold in Finland that we were.

we had to shoot some of the boat. There's like a bunch of boat stuff. And Jason gets in the water for, it was freezing, like freezing. And he was so game. But that was the only thing that we actually had to, like, do. And it was to the point where, like, he wanted to go again. We have a crane, like, zooming at him. We almost hit him with the crane.

And like, and he was like, let's go again. I was like, dude, no. Like, I'm looking at this. We got this. Like, you're good. He's wearing, like, a wet suit under his clothes. Yeah, he's wearing, yeah. I think they call it dry suits or something.

camera one's called. I've never heard of a dry suit. That's cool. Maybe that's for the camera ops. I'm not sure. Anyway, but you know, he's still freezing away he gets out.

I mean, it's really, but we had to like do that early days because it was genuinely dangerous for the actors. All right, well, now it's time for me to do the pitch

of selling this that you keep trying to do. Oh, and it just comes off crass. I'm not a classy. But as... Hey, Keith, I'm not a classy guy.

But here's the react The reality of it is you made the whole movie it's going to come out. And the truth is, people already like it, Yoram. And so we were texting the other day, and it's already, you already did your job really well. Thanks, man. Anything else, from my opinion, in my pep talk to you, is gravy. Because people love it. Those screenings were fantastic.

This is a side note. But I always remember Sandler talking about the movie Spanglish, how in the theater, even though that movie's more drama than comedy, it's a Jamesaw Brooks movie, he was talking about how it would just get these enormous laughs. And he was like, oh, my God, like, those are laughs that are bigger than the ones I get in my movies where I'm trying to be funny all the time. And it's that thing of, like, when you're in a movie where the story is working so well, it can get laughs that are actually, you know, like Pop Star or Naked Gun have to work so hard for every laugh because that's what it is promising you. Whereas this movie is getting just as big laughs the way that horror or drama can. Yeah. because you're being pulled into the story

and then are so with the characters that the littlest thing, like just the way she says something to him about the, like, you know, way she's cutting garlic is a huge laugh, even though it's like just the littlest thing. It's not a written... It's awesome when it's like a visual joke, too.

Like, there's a moment in the kitchen where she's like tiptoeing at one point and like it kills. Yes. And it is like just a visual thing. But they're like not jokes, so to speak. They're just character moments, things blooming from character.

Yeah. Anyways, that was a tangent, but it really was fun to see this in a big theater. I guess that's my pitch. And it's just, uh, would be great for Yorm to not be like super bummed after it comes out even though like my... That's the real pitch. My eyes. My pep talk to him is still true, which is I'm saying he already has won. He set out to make something and it came out good and it doesn't matter truthfully when people see it. I mean, that's not what he wants me to say. But in 10 years, he'll be. doing a screening of this the way that I was just that one for Popstar. And he should have been at that one, too. But point being is, it's already done. Like, if he can jump forward in his head, it's already done. But that's still... Well, the reason, the reason I think it is really important to, like, to see it, though, is because whenever people talk about, like, comedies, I'm like, you gotta go see them so that we can make more of them. You know what I mean? Like, it helps everybody. Yeah, and you just don't want to get sad. Oh, yeah. Like, okay, so that's the real pitch to the

weights is that don't make me sad opening the game. Yeah, helping my luck to not be sad. Because that's the thing. Like, ultimately, you know what I mean? It's like famous people go on talk shows every week and say, please go see my movie. It doesn't really mean anything because you're going to get to make another movie because it's already good. Like in general, people can kind of say, like, I just hope it does well enough that they let me make another, but I can tell you you can already make another because it's already good. And you're not going to make more money from it doing good because it's not how the deal is structured. So what's in it for you is to not get sad.

Yeah. It's just your mental health. Well, and by the way, like, how sad did we get on all of the things that we've made? Well, that's what I'm saying. The heartbreak of Hot Rod, you don't want to feel that again. Oh, God. Hot Rod, fucking Mergerber, fucking Popstar. Exactly.

All things we were incredibly proud of. Exactly. So just, my plea is just for Yorm to feel. He's been through a lot. I've been through a lot. He's been through a lot. He's already on every pill you can take. So he's not going to be able to mask it with drugs.

He can't just take a bunch of like sedatives. He's at max drugged out already. There's nowhere to go here. Yeah. This is all true. Thanks, Keeve, for that rousing endorsement. So that's, well, everything else sounds, you know, Pat. It sounds like whatever.

What is somebody going to do? Go on and not tell you to see whatever. it is. I mean, that's the whole job, but this is real. Go out there and see it before it sells out, guys, because, you know, this is hot off the hotcakes press. Yeah. This Friday, over your dead body

April 24th. If you want to get sad, I'm going to be so sad for him, guys. Can I play you Jason Segal's voice name? Yeah, yeah, what did you ask them for? Well, okay, so I got a voice name from Segal. I just said, hey, are there any remembrances that you had from that, and I will say

that I disagree with this voice note. All right. I hope listened to it. Okay, good. Yeah. And so I'll give you my response after we listen to it. All right, let's roll it. Yeah, I guess the moment that stands out most to me from shooting is the trust that I had established with Yorma, my director,

who I knew would never betray me in any way. And we did a scene where Sam and I are laying unconscious on the ground, having just fallen through the ceiling. And we're about to roll and someone said there would probably still be some wood falling.

And Yorama called out, do we have any wood? And someone said, yeah, here's a two by four. And then Yorma came up and said, I'm going to drop this on your head. And I whispered, I don't want that. And then Yorama said, okay. And then he called action and then quickly whispered, I'm going to do it anyway. And then dropped a solid piece of wood on my head with a clunk. And when they yelled, cut, I had never seen Sam.

looked so appalled and shocked in my whole life and then the guy did it again next take but wouldn't change it for the world love you Yorma bye okay

yeah what do you my rebuttal yeah okay I'm just gonna read you my rebuttal of what I said to Siegel after he sent that which was I wrote back to him I said this is very funny

it was it was prop wood and very light so you are entirely inaccurate and a liar but this is a very funny retelling. He said, I haven't been able to write since from the brain damage. I said, it's good that you were paid so little that you can't afford a lawyer. Good for me, at least. That made me laugh. I assume you laughed and then coughed up blood a little from your never healing internal injuries. Love you, pal. That was our exchange. So it was a prop. It was not,

geez. It was, guys. Prop would. Really dramatic. What a little whiny. Yeah. And he probably told Sam it was real and that's why her looking at gas might have been true. Like, I can't believe he's doing that to him. Yeah. Okay. So he's trying to turn the rest of the crew against you is the point. I mean, I will say that Sam did seem kind of a guest. Yeah, she might have thought it was real.

Because I did whisper, though. I'm just going to do it. Yeah. All right, here's Sam's note. Okay. Hello, podcasting gang. You asked me to tell a little tale from the incredible over-your-dead body shoot. And I think one of the best and the silliest memories I have is the trailers that we had had very thin walls.

So you could sort of hear everything anyone said if you were like next to them. And Jason's room was next to mine. And so at lunch, they would bring us these incredible meals shout out to the catering. And I suddenly start hearing Jason in his trailer going, oh yeah. Oh, my God. Oh shit. That is good. And it was sort of, it was day one of shooting. So I really didn't know. I was in quite a predicament. I was laughing, but also didn't know whether to say like, hey,

it was a private moment. I can hear you when you eat. And this happened every day. Every lunchtime, I'd be like trying to have a nap or something. And I'd just hear him having a whale of a time, teaching. A whale of a time. Yeah, it makes me giggle. And then eventually I had to be like, hey, dude, I can fully hear you.

And then he just, instead of stopping, he ramped it up even more. Yeah. I'm sure Jason will tell you. about the time that Yoma dropped wood on his head without consent a few times. I hope he tells that story. That's also a faith. Anyway, it was one of the best and most fun times I've had on a job. And yeah, love you, Yoma.

Let's do it again. Oh, my God. What a great human being. That was wonderful. Well, I had a follow-up question that I wish she was live. I wanted to ask, which is, well, I guess it's a question for Siegel, which is if she confronted him, I thought she was going to say, he said, like, I've been doing that. for you as a bit.

But instead he just got louder, like as if he went, oh, that's funny. Now I'll do it even louder. But what was he doing it for before? No, he's doing it because he's in the moment. He's a man. He's a Zen man in the moment enjoying food. And like he told this story kind of on Kimmel, but he went to like a food court and was like eating a donut.

And he was like doing the same like, hmm, yeah. Like by the way, this is in fucking Finland. So he's by himself. By himself taking bites. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, that's good. But just by himself? Dude, just to give you some context, my first AD, Auntie, like, my impression of him was,

I'm Auntie, I'm doing a joke. No, I'm serious. No, I'm doing a joke. He was like a beautiful-looking Navy seal, like, tacked up. Like, he was just, like, so stoic. Like, that movie Sisu, like, which is about, like, perseverance against all odds, no matter what, is, like, that's Finland, 100%. So to have a big dude just being like, oh, yeah, this boot is good.

It's like, that is not normal in Finland. So he got stopped after, like, eating at this place. But like this woman who was like, this security guard who was trying to take his car keys because she was like, you're clearly super high. And he had to be like, no, I'm American. No, I'm just, this is how we are. We're this dumb all the time. When we enjoy something, we're going to let you know.

I just like, I'm being alone being like, oh, shit. Oh, oh, by the way, catering was super good. And this was the first time I've ever had catering where there was no options. They just made you one thing. They just made you a meal. Oh, that's really. So good. That sounds very good, honestly.

Oh, well, this was a treat. Yeah, thanks for talking about my movie. Thank you for those voice notes. It made me want to go to a dinner with Samara and Jason and hear a ton of it. So invite me when you're in L.A. and wrangling them into a dinner, just be like, Akiva's tagging along. It will too. So I can hear it because they sound very funny.

And her Australian accent is spot on. She's doing it so believable. She has a couple Australianisms that I really fucking like. Did she say fair-does a lot? Dude, they feel like they're straight out of our podcast, too, because she calls somebody a gronk. And that sounds like a very much like this podcast. Not a gunk.

Yeah. You fucking gronk. Not a gronk. A gronk, that is really good. Yeah. And by the way, speaking of dinners, I love this moment, was when we were in Finland, we were out through a very nice dinner,

all the cast together, and Timothy and Juliet were talking, and they were talking about, they were like, oh, yeah, what did you do with Leo? And I was like, oh, Leo DiCaprio, they both worked with Leo. And I was like, wait, Julia, what did you do with Leonardo?

And she was like, oh, this movie, what's eating Gilbert Grape? And I was like, yep, yep, no, I know it. It's right, you are an amazing actor. He's been doing it for 40 years. Yep. All right, well, Yorm, it's been a pleasure. I hope we talked some quads into a theatrical experience this coming weekend.

And thank you in advance to them. And congratulations to you, Yorm. And it's nice to, you know, get real with you without the jokesters around. Oh, my God. Thank you for bringing that up. The people who can't take anything serious. A real director, a real artist. Like, getting down to brass tacks.

The sarcasm from those guys. You're like, are you being serious? I just like, shut up. I can never tell you're being serious. Oh, can't you. just be real for a second. Oh my God. Exactly. Exactly. What are they so afraid of? Yeah. They're running from something. Just like the quades are going to be running into the theater so that Yorm doesn't have to run from his emotions. All right. Thank you, everybody. All right. Don't make me depressed, guys.

Love you, Yon. Love you, Keefe. Later, Arnold. Later, Quades.