The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Ras Trent

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

This week The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers do an in-depth breakdown of the digital short, Ras Trent! Find out how much Akiva and Andy truly know about Reggae and DanceHall music and what all the refe...rences are. Plus Jorma isn't here this week.Ras Trent - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQbKo-7HfIWeekend Update: Sarah Palin Rap - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlgkq_EW64Ras Trent on genuis.com https://genius.com/537527(Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.)If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod. Send us an email! thelonelyislandpod@gmail.comRidgeTake advantage of Ridge’s once-a-year anniversary sale and get UP TO 40% Off right now by going to https://www.Ridge.com/island #RidgepodNutrafolStart your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enterthe promo code ISLAND. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair.Thrive MarketReady to make the switch? Go to Thrive Market.com/island for thirty percent off your first order, plus a FREE sixty dollar gift!Maker's MarkThis episode of The Lonely Island Podcast is brought to you by our friends at Maker's Mark. You too can celebrate the spirited women in your life with a free personalized label to go with a bottle of Maker’s Mark! Head to makersmarkpersonalize.com and fill in the details in order to create and mail your custom label. MAKER'S MARK MAKES THEIR BOURBON CAREFULLY. PLEASE ENJOY IT THAT WAY. Maker's Mark® Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whisky, 45% Alc./Vol. ©2025 Maker's Mark Distillery, Inc., Loretto, KY.   Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne Jones

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Starting point is 00:00:35 45% alcohol per volume. Copyright 2025, Makers Mark Distillery, Incorporated Loretto, Kentucky. Hey guys, can I just start by saying I held our listeners in higher regard than they have revealed themselves to be. Who? I thought we had sort of an elevated listenership, people whose minds were not in the gutter.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And yet multiple people commented, because I talked about how Chris Martin gave me his throat spray when I lost my throat. And maybe I worded it in a way that was a little eggy. Oh, how'd you word it? I said I was just pumping the Chris Martin juice into my throat. Oh, now I see. And the amount of people that took to the comments to say not only, I can't believe that's how he said it, and I can't believe everybody just let it pass.
Starting point is 00:01:32 But you were saying it to be kind of flowery and funny in the wording, but not necessarily just straight up that he's jizzing down your throat. Well, who would ever say that? And I gave it you grace. Thank you. And you deserve it, and you've earned it, on this podcast especially. I guess I thought I deserved a little bit more grace from our listeners.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Why is Andy squinting at his screen so hard? He's just squinting at the computer screen like it was like, what the heck is happening here? I was just doing research for this episode of the pod. But I will say, Seth, I didn't blink at it because I assumed you just met the Chris Martin gist in your throat. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Down your throat, into and down your throat. I see. And you always refer to them as your juices. So I got that it was his juices. Yeah. I mean, reading it back, it is kind of, I wish I had written it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:24 You know what I mean? Yeah. It's the combination of, I mean, you it back, it is kind of, I wish I had written it. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's the combination of, I mean, you look at it now, and it's a very short line, but to have pumping, juice, and throat all in one, it was kind of asking for it. Wait, can I ask, did he tell you what was in the spray? No, he just kept saying it's high in protein.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Right. Hmm. You teed him up, Keith. You teed him up. The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast show. And I apologize to Mr. Martin, who is nothing but an absolute gentleman. Yeah, he's your cool jacket inspiration.
Starting point is 00:03:04 He got you through update. Yeah, by the way, this is the episode. Ross Trent is... Is the epaulette episode? It's cool jacket. It is the episode. The epaulette, the epaulettisode? The epalotsosode. The epilettisode.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Let's go with the epilettisode. The epilettisode. This is it. This is, Amy does not make it to this show. In the Josh Brolin show, which was the week before, she does her very pregnant, hardcore rap as Sarah Palin, one of the great moments for my Money of SNL history. Andy, you're in it. I helped Amy write one line of that rap and it was the least funny line in the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's very nice of you to admit. I tried to make it like a good rhyme, but it was not a good laugh. And then I felt guilty afterwards. Amy did a lot of, I think wrote most of that by herself, and it's a real killer. She did a great job, and it played hot. H-O-T hot. In Wasilla, we chill baby chilla, but in the bedroom, it's Joe baby drilla,
Starting point is 00:03:58 I believe, some version of that. Yeah. Wow. The memory, still trap. I mean, it's real good. But were we recording when we talked that Yoram's not here this week? Or was that, still trap. I mean, it's real good. But- Were we recording when we talked
Starting point is 00:04:07 that Yoram's not here this week? Or was that, I mean, I know Seth said we were starting after that. We should establish. You guys tell me, cause I feel like I don't know why he's not here. He's shooting a commercial. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I saw that it's with Beck Bennett, cause they sent me a photo. I don't know anything else. Okay. I mean, he's a sellout. That's a reunion, cause they did all those other commercials together. Right, they did all the AT&T ones
Starting point is 00:04:27 before Beck was on SNL, all the ones where he was with children talking about cell phone plans or something. Yeah, that's right. If he was here, he would talk about, he's very passionate about products. That's why he does the ads a lot. Yeah, he said he can't make the pod,
Starting point is 00:04:41 but they are gonna pause the commercial shoot so he can jump on and do the ad reads. Yeah. And I guess he's like yelled pretty hard at the actual, you know, the commercial, the client as they call him in the ad world. And he's like, you're gonna tell me I can't go do my ads while I'm doing your ads?
Starting point is 00:05:00 I directed a MacGruber ad on the Super Bowl. A Super Bowl, a three parter, they only aired one part. Yeah, so there you go. Your arm's not here in case everybody's wondering, but he's not here. But this is, I'm just gonna say off the top. We're gonna talk about Ross Trent today. Ross Trent, I have nothing with great things to say about,
Starting point is 00:05:21 is in the body of one of the best shows I think we ever did in Anne Golden era. It's really, I think it's a Mount Rushmore Anne Golden era show. Who is the host? Ham. First Jon Ham. Oh, yes. First Jon Ham. And it's kind of crazy because the show is so good, you know, in no small part due to Jon Hamm,
Starting point is 00:05:45 but then we have this lovely Ross Trent, which of course he's not in, and I think that adds a great deal as well. Yeah, and Ross Trent played good. Yeah. And we were happy, but we also knew going into it that Ross Trent was like brimming with references that a normal SNL crowd might not immediately go crazy for. Now is as good a time as ever to jump in and say, I love Ross Trent and I still,
Starting point is 00:06:12 I rewatched it today and realized I'm still not even halfway there in the references. A lot of the fun of it for us was just referencing reggae and dancehall songs we've loved throughout the years. Yeah. Doing it through the lens of so many people that we actually would come across growing up in the Bay Area and going to UC Santa Cruz for college for two years and going to the Reggae on the River Festival
Starting point is 00:06:36 in Northern California and et cetera, et cetera. It was definitely like this is a character in our lives and in our world. And it was our hope to sort of make this sort of the quintessential that guy song. Yeah! Ross DeFarionism! Yes, I, Ross Trent! But a ding, ding, ding, ding, whoa! Who damn? You know what? Test me champion sound! Ding, ding, ding, ding, whoa. Crew down. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Test me champion sound. Was this on the pot already, Andy, that you told the actual that there was a person that said a very patois line to you? I feel like you already did, right? I think I talked about it in one of those SNL docs. But the story was me and my friends in high school, we went to Berkeley High School in the Bay. We're really into dance hall and reggae, as we've said
Starting point is 00:07:30 a million times. But we went out to this city called Petaluma to see a show with this band, the Itals, who are, you know, roots reggae. Not household names in the States, but we were obsessed with them and it was so cool that they were playing. This tiny venue out in Petaluma. We went all out there together and it was incredible and they sounded great. After the show, it was in this old movie theater almost, like old theater and it had stairs in the lobby that went up to the bathrooms. Me and all my friends were sitting in the stairwell. This dude who had been at the show walked out dressed like he was straight out of office space.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You know what I mean? Like khakis tucked in, button up, and glasses. And he just walked up to us and clearly needed to get by. And he just went, excuse I. And we all were like, whoa, what? And we were just like, oh, of course, yeah, man. Went to the side and he walked up into the bathroom. And we were all just like, oh, of course, yeah, man. Like, went to the side and he walked up into the bathroom and we were all just like,
Starting point is 00:08:27 oh my God, I can't fucking believe he just said that. We were like, is he actually a Rasta? Or was he like thinking he was talking to us in a way we would understand? Because we were clearly just like young, scrubby white kids and not Rastafarians, you know what I mean? But I guess maybe some of my friends a little bit? They were clearly just like young scrubby white kids and not Rastafarians, you know what I mean? But I guess maybe some of my friends a little bit?
Starting point is 00:08:47 I really, we still to this day don't know the answer. It was a big mystery, but that quote became like a running joke with my friend group for the next like 20 years or whatever, where we'd see each other and go, excuse I, in the most like businessman voice you could come up with basically. I've got a few years on you guys,
Starting point is 00:09:08 and I don't think the hyper specificity to Ross DeFarrenism was anything I'd seen before, but we definitely had guys I was in college with who looked exactly like Ross Trent. Yes. So I enjoyed it on that level, but I was always aware there was like a second and third level that was beyond my reference point.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I mean, so many white dudes we knew, and some of them we knew from like elementary school. You know what I mean? Growing up in Berkeley and then the Bay Area. And then like all of a sudden, and by the way, this was me for about a month and a half. All of a sudden... Big of you to admit that.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They have dreads. You know what I'm saying? And are like, I'm like, we're all smoking a little bit of weed, but like all of a sudden... Big of you to admit that. They have dreads, you know what I'm saying? And are like, I'm like, we're all smoking a little bit of weed, but like, all of a sudden, and I never did this level, but there would be people you know that were just speaking in patois and like basically saying they were Ostafarian. And you're just like, what? Like, our parents hang out.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And you're just like, what? Like our parents hang out. Like it's not, you can't do that. You can't just do that. I want to say disclaimer that we are not experts on any of this either. Like we just are fans of the music. And so we, but we could just sense like, it's not like we're masters, like, know much about being Rastafari,
Starting point is 00:10:27 but we know they're not. We know enough to know that. So your hyper-specificity is not, like, a deep observation about Rastafarianism. Your only observation was about the dudes who were pretending to be Rastafarians. Yes, yes, who were adopting it as their personality, as like a quirk in high school and college.
Starting point is 00:10:47 While also saying they didn't know much because they probably knew about as much as us. Right, yes. So we're also that they're adopting it as a personality trait, but also don't know even exactly what they're saying or adopting. But also like because it's connected to the music,
Starting point is 00:11:01 for them it's like being like, now I'm goth. You know what I mean? But I'm like, yeah, that's a religion though. Like that's really crazy. You shouldn't be doing that. There's a lot that goes into that. That's a perfect way to put it, being grunge or being goth or being Rasta.
Starting point is 00:11:16 That's how they're thinking of it. And it's not that. Yes. And also just anytime a person like comes back after summer break and talks completely different, it's like a hilarious and sad thing. And this is so much worse than an accent because it is a truly different way of talking.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Oh my God, yeah. The first time your white friend you know from elementary school is like, I and I, we're gonna go, and you're just like, nope. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Because it's not even a foreign language, it's the language you know just like, nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Because it's not even a foreign language, it's the language you know just like in a different order. And it's all just ripped from the records we like, you know what I mean? Like we all love that music, it's so fucking dope, and there's a million great records, and it was like we listened to hip hop, we listened to old soul and funk,
Starting point is 00:12:00 we listened to reggae and dancehall, we listened to grunge, we listened to everything. And there was a stretch of time where, like, we really got deep into that and stayed into it. And it just stuck a little too sticky, I think, for a couple people. I do think your idea is right, Keev. We should do a rewatch together in pieces.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But before we start it, Trent is really just the perfect name. we could do a rewatch together in pieces. But before we start it, Trent is really just the perfect name. Just shout out to the choice of Trent. Thanks. I mean, it seemed like- Just going with that Eddie Murphy white guy voice. Yeah, exactly. This episode of the Lonely Island Podcast
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Starting point is 00:15:36 All right, so could you do it, Keith? Can you share? Yeah, yeah, let me share it. Yeah! Yeah! Rastafarianism! Yes, I! Okay. I mean, right away, what was that college we went to? We went to a real college and those are real students who are sitting in a real college. One of our interns maybe went there or maybe somebody's niece went there.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, it was someone connected to the crew. Yeah, and we just went into a real college class and shot with real college students. It was very nice over the course of this, how many, I mean, obviously there's some cast in it, but I really did like how it was college students. Yeah, had to be. We had to be on the quad.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. And it's great. Ja Rastafarianism. Yes. Immediately off the bat, he's on the quad. Yeah. And it's great. Ja Rastafarianism. Yes. Immediately off the bat, he's on the wrong foot. He's betraying the entire thing right out of the gate by saying it wrong. For those that don't know it,
Starting point is 00:16:34 it's usually Ja Rastafari is in the normal song that wants to say it, and like a Capelton song that's one of the artists or whatever. Or Bob Marley even. Like any live concert you ever heard of any like Rasta Reggae artist. So your first joke is really just for like nine people you know.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And the entire country of Jamaica. Yeah, okay, so that's fair. And a lot of people in London. You are making a joke that you can have zero confidence is gonna play with the SNL house. Yes, this is kind of like Natalie rap, right? Where we have so many nice deep cut rap references, but for your lay viewer, they can just go,
Starting point is 00:17:16 ha ha ha, it's that girl who's in Star Wars, but now she's doing a hardcore rap. And this has the basic joke that I think everyone got, which is the stuff we just discussed, about cultural appropriation when you don't really understand what you're appropriating, and about that guy who's, you know, looks like Ross Trent in your college. And then there's just other things happening underneath it that are for just us and Rihanna. Yeah. I'm gonna play it. Now wait, did Rihanna ever bring this up to you guys? We played it for her.
Starting point is 00:17:48 When we were making Shireani. All right, so she had not heard it yet. Wait, had she seen it? I think it was when she came back to do the second Shireani, she said that she had friends that had a Rhythm Shop in Manhattan somewhere and that they loved Ross Trent and that she had watched it with them or something like that.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Oh, that might be. That's why I'm remembering it not being right away. By the way, could you ask for a better way for it to come across her radar? She said what they wanted to do and it never came about, but I was so fucking hyped to do it was to have Ross Trent be like the dude who's yelling out over like a mixtape
Starting point is 00:18:22 throughout the whole time. You know what I mean? Yes, I. Yeah, exactly. No, You know what I mean? Yes, I. Yeah, exactly. No, Rihanna. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Bum, bum, bum.
Starting point is 00:18:30 No, Sisler. Oh, over a real mixtape, over a real shit. That's what they wanted to put together, a real one. That's way funnier. With actually cool songs, but have me be like the, the like Funkmaster Flex or whatever. Yeah, doing the, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I wish they had asked you to do that. Yes. Alrighty, so let's keep going here with the established. All right, we got Roller Skates. He says Roller Skates later, but right away Roller Skates are a reference to us, a really famous steel pulse song called Roller Skates. Yep, I love Roller Skates.
Starting point is 00:19:03 That's why he's on Roller Skates. Yes. Ross Trent. But a ding ding ding ding whoa. So, but a ding ding ding ding whoa is Barrington Levy. Yeah. And he does it in lots of songs, but most famously to us at least,
Starting point is 00:19:18 and I would assume to everybody is a song called Here I Come. Here I Come, yeah. Now I will say that is a perfect example on the Natalie's rap parallel, which is, but a ding ding whoa is just very funny coming out of Andy's mouth, even if you don't know that that's an actual famous moment. Yes, it works for both things.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yes. Barrington himself would certainly agree. Okay. It's kind of funny when he does it. It's awesome. What are you holding Andy at this point in the song? What is that? It's just like a-
Starting point is 00:19:52 A staff? Yeah, like a walking staff. Okay, good. That's standard rasculture stuff. I'm sure there's a name for it in Pachua that we don't know. DING DING WOAH Oh yeah All right, do you want to talk about that background vocals there, Andy? in Pachwa that we don't know. ["Ding Ding Wohh!" by The Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunches of the Bunch My wife, Joanna Newsome. Really? Yes. So we were obviously all living together in the valley and Maya would come hang out a bunch because her and Paul were close by and Joanna was there.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It was one of the most fun recording sessions I would say because we had done like fake ones and they came in and had to kind of like stay on the rhythm and feel the vibes and do it, do it for reals. Did you say who dem here? Who dem? So wait, so Joanna and Maya were the I3, but they were, they were an I2. They were the I2. And they, they obviously made it sound a lot better than what we had and wrote their own harmonies and sounded fantastic.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like if you isolate those tracks, they actually sounded fucking fantastic. And were they having so much fun doing it together? Yes. Great. Absolutely, they're buds. So yes, who them is Capelton, who's a dance hall artist. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So before, when Andy has this idea and we're like, how are we ever going to get an authentic sounding reggae music? And we were very fresh to this thing that we're on a label. So we went, hey, Universal Music Group, which Republic is under, also owns Def Jam and they also own Island, which is the Jamaican music label. And so we just asked, do you guys have any? And they sent over, you know, at that time it was still CDs,
Starting point is 00:21:48 a CD of unused Sly and Robbie tracks. Yes. Sly and Robbie is one of the most famous reggae production musician duos of all time. Like full-tilt legends. It's like if you were just dabbling in, I'm going to make a fake rap song, and they're like, well, here's a bunch of beats
Starting point is 00:22:06 by Dr. Dre. Do you wanna use one of these? Yes. It was the craziest thing. We could not believe it. It wasn't like we had gotten a bunch of other ones either. And we were like, what? We thought it was- The fact that Sly and Ravi
Starting point is 00:22:17 made Ross Trent is so funny if you know who Sly and Ravi is. And you knew right away, and was it exactly what you wanted it to be the first time you put the CD in and listened? Every track was perfect. Yes, but I think we immediately started vibing to the one that it was.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But the one thing I'll say is we added horns, Keef. Do you remember? Yeah, you hummed them. I hummed the horn part. Yeah, you went, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum. It's basically the Spider-Man theme song. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But I wrote it. Yeah. Yeah. OK, we're 16 seconds in. Going great. Ready? Oh, yeah. God, that is something.
Starting point is 00:23:04 But who is that by? The Champion Sound? Well, there's Super Beagle, but I knew Champion Sound of Super Beagle first because it was on a Smith and Wesson song called Sound Boy Burial, which was one of my favorite rap songs in high school. Right, it was sampled on that.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I'm already so heartbroken how much more you guys know about rap music to me. And this is just, everything about this so far has been just heartbreaking because part of what I've, you know, the bargaining I've made in my own head is, well, of course they know more about rap than you, Seth, it's all they listen to. It was high school and we would just listen all the time
Starting point is 00:23:42 when we'd be rolling around when you had nothing else to do. We didn't have smartphones, you remember. This is also what we filled our brain with while you were learning about politics and history and stuff. Yeah, well guess what? I made the wrong choice. I think it's worked out pretty good. Yeah, I guess that's true. Guys, Yoram's calling me. Should I loop him in? Is he going to be like, come to dinner?
Starting point is 00:24:02 All right, caller, you're on live. This is the Lonely Island Seth Meyers podcast. Oh, shit. Fucking hell. I just was saying that. He forgot, I knew he forgot. I forgot. He forgot, what a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It actually timed out good. You said I forgot and they yelled, he forgot! It was like you could hear him. Oh, it's even better that he can't hear me. Slandering. Well, I just rap, but I don't have my recording equipment. Are you at the house? Yeah, I'm at home and yeah, we're right in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:24:44 But all right, we're gonna get back middle of it, but alright, we're gonna get back to it. Okay, goodbye, goodbye. Alright, see ya. Oh my god. If Yoram's Life is a movie, he'd be like, I pulled off the heist, got away with the murder. It was the perfect crime.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Now I'm gonna walk to the police station and confess. I mean, the fact that he called and then it couldn't roll with it. He said, you're calling into the podcast. He's like, ah, ah, I forgot. He could have pretended like, oh, I'm busy, but I'm calling in as contribute. Yeah, like that one is a perfect time to adjust and say, hey guys, I'm so proud of you for doing it. Love you. No, he is too honest, he is too honest. He's too honest slash forgot.
Starting point is 00:25:28 All right, here we go. Back to Ross. Oh, fire pond Babylon. Fire pond Babylon is something that is said a lot. I think that's Capelton again. I was listening to a lot of Capelton at this time. Babylon, I mean, I don't have the right, I'm gonna say it wrong, but it's like basically
Starting point is 00:25:45 the Western system of capitalism and everything, right? Oh, sorry, yes, I'm skipping steps. No, but that's fine. And so they don't, Rastafarian, they don't like that, capitalism stuff. They don't like Babylon. They don't like Babylon, so they might say fire upon it. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm a rude boy living in the shant it. Okay, here we go. I mean, rude boy. How would you describe a rude boy? And once again, we are not experts, but rude boys like gangster kids like in the streets, right? Living in the shanty dorms sucks so hard. So he's making his own like, it's so fucking disrespectful. He's making his like struggle story instead of being like in the slums of Kingston. He's this rude boy who lives in these shanty dorms.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And looks like a pretty normy dorm. Oh yeah, looks pretty nice honestly. Yeah, it's a nice dorm. Yeah. And my roommate Nick is an ignorant bald head. So that's Rachel Lynn's. So what's bald head? Bald head is like a way of describing
Starting point is 00:26:41 like a devil, white devil basically. Okay, gotcha. Is how I would describe it. Clearly, just a nice guy doing his homework. Yeah. And yes, this is Rachel Lin who helped us with all our videos, brother Joe. He might have really been the college student still and been the one that got us into. Oh, this might have been his actual dorm room.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah, and then he went on to work in the accounting department at SNL and still does. Still there. Shout out Joe. We love Joe. So there he is. And we love Rach. Saw her at the 50th. So he's in ignorant ball pit. He's an ignorant ball pit. Chant down Babylon, minter essays that puff from the chalice, ify mink from a Sprite can. Yeah, okay. I mean, Chant Down Babylon is a Bob Marley song. Everyone knows that. Yeah. Great song. We all made a pipe out of a soda can. Yeah, Sprite can.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Nice choice. Just mixing college stuff. Yeah. But he calls it a chalice. Yeah. Because that's just what they would do. Yeah. It still makes me laugh, guys.
Starting point is 00:27:40 He's admitting that it was just last week this transformation happened. This week I read a book about celassi and told my Bumba Klot parents I was switching religion. Bumba Klot's like one of the, as far as I understand it, it means period blood
Starting point is 00:27:56 and it's like motherfucker. It's one of the more offensive words you can say. And they did not make a sense of that. Didn't flag that one. Yeah, yeah. Seemed pretty psyched when you were telling your parents. Definitely did not seem to understand how bad that word was. Yeah, and we're loving these, we're loving casting on these parents. Also is loving when you were reading the book a week ago, Andy, you're reading by the docs, it seems, or you're on like a pier.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, it's a mother, it's kind of a dick in a box location, yeah. But you have a moment where you sort of hit the book with the back of your hand as if everything just made sense to you. Everything finally makes sense. Yeah. You're a real dickhead kid. Yes. So here're a dead kid. Yes. 50 seconds in, we get your catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Excuse I. Excuse I. Which I also had when I... By the way, I mean, I auditioned for SNL and did Ross Trent in the audition. Oh, yeah. And it was a totally different version of it, because it wasn't a song. It was like the way that you would have done it if it was a character in like the late. Oh, yeah. And it was a totally different version of it, because it wasn't a song.
Starting point is 00:29:05 It was like the way that you would have done it if it was a character in like the late 90s, where it had a jingle, and he was a guy who worked at an office and said, excuse I, and... And... Ha ha ha. It was these exact same jokes,
Starting point is 00:29:20 but just with way less energy and a lot more space in between them. Ha ha ha. Oh, hot stepper, you do so many dut- Oh, hot stepper, that's one of the songs that crossed over. Annie Kamozzi. Yeah, Annie Kamozzi. Here comes the hot stepper.
Starting point is 00:29:38 That's why I got American radio play. You would recognize it, do you know what we're talking about, Seth? No. If we were fast enough to edit this where we played it right now for you, you would go, oh, I've heard that at nightclubs. Yeah. Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na.
Starting point is 00:29:56 But do you guys remember Tom Harkin? He ran for president from Iowa. Yeah, the Hot Stepper. That was, whenever he came out of the conventions, it played it. Tom the Hot Stepper. Here comes the Hot Stepper murderer. Here I am, Tom Harden. Excuse me, Mr. Alphazard.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Many Dutty Crimes. Hot Stepper, you do so many Dutty Crimes. Dutty is just dirty. Yeah. Also, I like you doing a little, just juggling a soccer ball. Yeah, that's the Bob Marley. Everyone had the Bob Marley playing soccer poster in college. Featured prominently in the film.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yes, I appreciated that. Nya Bingy! And bless your foolie's guy. Now, in my mind, Nya Bingy is a type of drum, but I think it also is a sect of the religion. I don't really know. I think that's right. I knew, there was a time I knew this a lot more. Yeah, you're you're asking us 20 years after we did that? Or how many years? Not 20? 18? 16?
Starting point is 00:30:54 A lot. All right, here we go. And you're fully sky larking all the time. Andy, sky larking? I'm trying to remember a good way to put what sky larking means. Sky larking is from a song, isn't it? Yeah. From multiple songs. And the visual now is you're just smelling your dreadlocks and even you are having a hard time with the odor.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yes, that's a moment of him like getting his dreads right and then realizing he's making his head smell bad. Real dreads do not have a bad odor. You would have to be very dirty and it would be, it's like almost a stereotype that they're dirty dreads. Like it could be offensive. So I want to clarify that we do not think dreads are dirty or smell, his do.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Ross Trent's do, because he's doing it wrong. Yeah, it's like white boy dreads traditionally are not well kept and are funky. Yeah, I don't even want to make any generalizations. I'll just say Ross Trentz. I'm sure there are white men out there who have nice dreads. I'm sure that exists. But Ross Trentz.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But wait, so Skylarking obviously, I can't believe I forgot this, it's Horace Andy, my main man. Oh yeah, yeah, your namesake. As a song called Skylarking, but the phrase Skylarking is used in many, many songs. All the time. Oonalookyah now. Oonalookyah now is more Capelton. He has a song called Ja Ja City, which is one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:32:16 dancehall songs ever. All right, we've got your horns coming to life here that you hummed. And I mean, we see Simon Rich in the center. His show is on Broadway right now. Yes. And then the other two guys, I'm sad to say, I don't remember their names,
Starting point is 00:32:31 but they all both were behind the scenes, SNL, like tech guys and, you know, crew guys. They were all just cast by their collegiate look. And I love the look that like Ross Trent's Horton section is the guys who are just like band guys. It actually looks small on my screen and I can't see their faces. Kevin, can you help us out?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Matt Finkelstein, worked in talent, still has a big job at NBC. Oh yeah, Finkelstein. Now we got a very important cameo coming up. Okay. Yeah, bald head sock. Now you're playing three extras like bongos and then uh Kevin Miller. Kevin do you want to, do you want to just come in and talk about this experience of holding a duck? It was wonderful. I remember getting wardrobe and being you know on for not even a second but you
Starting point is 00:33:23 you guys were looking for bald heads. And I think I was one of the top four. And you had your own duck. That helped? I did, yes. You brought it to work with me that day. This is Ross Trent taking the phrase, crazy bald head literally.
Starting point is 00:33:42 There's a song by Bob Marley called Crazy Bald Head, we're gonna chase those crazy bald heads out of town. He's also the first one that's ever noticed, cause he's like, have you ever noticed that bald heads suck? This is an observation I just made. Our shared experience? He has no reason to dislike bald heads, other than he keeps hearing it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, he's just trying to separate himself, cause God forbid someone thinks he's a baldhead. Yeah. All right. But that would be like a self-deprecating joke we would do. Me and my baldheads are going to go get some malt liquor and drink. Oh, don't mind me. Just... Bunch of baldheads coming through. Don't mind me, just... But yeah. A bunch of baldheads coming through. Don't mind us.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Well, Bobby Lawn is what pays my bills, so I'll keep enjoying the tunes, fellas. So there's two of my favorite shots are coming up here. One, you guys walk up to what just looks like a giant bong coming out of the street. I don't even know to this day, you still see it in New York, what it is. Yeah, what's the purpose of that?
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's like a thing you put over a manhole cover, I guess when the earth is leaking. If you know there's gonna be like, yeah, an exorbitant amount of steam. Yeah, so it's just not to have the steam pouring out I guess. It's from the subway? Yeah it's from the subway but it's a giant orange cone that Ross Trent goes over and it looks like he takes a bong hit off it. So amazing. That you just got lucky, you guys saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And we're like, it's a giant bong in the middle of New York street. Go over and smoke it. And it just is incredible. How did I blow out smoke? It was just so cold. No, you lit something, look. Use I pour my skank in you.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Fix and freeze. You definitely, you smoked some. Oh, well anyway, yeah, we were walking down the street and saw it. I think we were driving past and you were like, stop, stop the fucking car. And then the next time we see Ross Trent, he is behind the counter of a cold stone creamery, an actual cold stone creamery, which is a wonderful place to find out he's toiling part time. Dude, this is back when they would just, you could just, we were so low rent, you could walk into a Cold Stone Creamery and be like, hey, can I get behind the counter for a sec?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh my god, it is a real Cold Stone. Wait, you really, this was not a prearranged, you just got behind the Cold Stone Creamery like that? I don't know if anyone called ahead, but we definitely just walked in. If it was, it was like Nick Malardi or Dina just calling and being like, hey, can we come by today? It was like, they would have had no warning. Maybe it was prearranged and he was like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:32 the one on this one said we can go back there. Maybe it was, we'd have to ask them. Let's ask them for a voice note. That's like when people are like, you know, before 9-11, you could just walk on a plane. Like that's how this feels now, the idea that you could just walk into a Cold Stone Creamery and shoot something for us at all.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You know what, let's make sure Dina listens and she'll have the receipts on that. Yeah, great. But this is maybe my favorite line in the song. Yeah, you toil. Me toil part time at Jack Cold Stone Creamery. Just combining the most mundane. Every single part of it is wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:09 It makes me happy. Dub is like an instrumental style of reggae. Again, somebody that listens to this is going to know more about reggae and correct us. But I know when you buy like a dub plate, like essentially a lot of times the people that make rhythms, which are their beats, will actually let many different reggae artists do a song on the same rhythm.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So you might hear 10 different songs that all the exact same music, and then one might become a hit, but you could do a whole DJ set for 30 minutes where the music never changes, it's just different artists come on to do their song on top of it. And then dub style is basically those, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:51 like instrumentals and you can buy whole albums that you've liked and now it's a dub style. And sometimes they will put in very quietly the lyrics that used to be there or just like the ad lib hypes. So you might be listening to a song you've known and then every four bars bars it just goes like, wah, wah, wah, like an echo of the last syllable. And then there's people that just made whole the albums
Starting point is 00:38:12 of just vibe albums that were like King Tubby, was that probably the most famous one to us at least? Where you would just buy whole albums and it's just the music with very little lyrics. I feel like Lee Scratch Perry did a lot of dub. Yeah. But yeah, it's like real stony stuff Very little lyrics. I feel like Lee Scratch Perry did a lot of dub. Yeah. But yeah, it's like real stony stuff
Starting point is 00:38:28 where it's a lot of like, wah wah wah wah wah wah, echo on everything and. Roller skates. Roller skates again. A DVD of Cool Runnings. Now, a DVD of Cool Runnings is one of two things that Jost pitched. Great.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And here's what happened. We wrote the song in the summer when we were making our album. And then we started putting it together to do the video at SNL. And we ourselves said, this could use a few more SNL audience-friendly jokes. And maybe even took it to the table, or maybe just played it for Jost and a few more SNL audience friendly jokes. And maybe even took it to the table or maybe just played it for Jost and a few people
Starting point is 00:39:09 and they pitched us a few ideas. One of the things he pitched us was a DVD of Cool Runnings, which we were like, yes, perfect, something that everyone watching will know what it is. And it's also incredibly off base, so it fits the character. Did we have a different joke there?
Starting point is 00:39:23 We must have had something there. We did. I don't remember what it was, though. And then we'll talk about Murder She Wrote a second. But the other one is the biggest laugh in the audience by far, which is when Ross Trent walks past the real dreads and lowers his voice for Bike Path of Righteousness. And that was the other thing Joe's pitched.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And I remember after it aired, going up to him and being like, thank you, that was such a great pitch. And him going, oh, yeah. It's like the linchpin of the entire video. It's the moment the whole point of the whole thing comes across to everybody. Yeah. Which is even Ross Trent is incredibly obtuse,
Starting point is 00:40:03 but even he knows not to be full rasta in front of those dudes. Yes. He knows he's walking down the street. And so obviously, yeah, when you recorded it in the summer, you didn't have a moment. It would have made no sense to have you just mumble. No, the song on Monday of this weekend,
Starting point is 00:40:21 it was loud. Right by path of righteousness. Yeah, please guide me upon your bike path of righteousness. And then I think it still is that on the album, right? Or no, did we go with the like lower version? Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. I know we debated that.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And what is it? It's just like four or five actual, Yeah, here, let's get to them real quick. But yeah, so. Murder She Wrote. Shocked, Dimas and Pliers have a very famous song called Murder She Wrote. Oh yeah, you know that one, Seth.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You would know it. I do know it. I do know it. That's it. You actually do. Yeah. There's a bunch of these dance all ones that you have heard in your nightclub days
Starting point is 00:41:00 where we do a dance all set. So Seth, I was gonna say, will you sing Murder She Wrote real quick? I do feel like I remember it, but I don't feel like I'll be able to sing it. I do remember Jessica was on like a bike. I feel like it was instrumental and she was going through a little New England town
Starting point is 00:41:15 where all the murders happened. Oh, okay. Are you talking about the theme song, The Murder She Wrote? Yeah, I like that you said Jessica. That's right. Murder she wrote. How did said Jessica. That's right. -♪ Murder she wrote... How did it go? That's close. -♪ Murder she wrote...
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Starting point is 00:44:58 Yaga yaga yaga yow. Yeah, who's yaga yaga yaga? Yeah. Is that Anthony B? I think that might be Anthony B. Uh, yeah, it's dancehall for sure. It could be Beanie Man, but I think it's Anthony B. Again, our listeners will clearly put it all, correct me and let me know. Yeah, it's Anthony B. We got that whole class to say, are you there, Ja? It's me, Ross Trent. They were great. It was definitely Rachel's brother's class.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I don't know where they all are now, but thank you. It was perfect. And of course, that's the famous reggae book, Are You There, God, It's Me, Margaret by Judy Blume. But again, that is something Ross Trent would have in his wheelhouse. Yeah, he definitely knows that book. That's a reference for him. Hoping his boobs come in, you know? There were about five seconds where we debated calling the song Are You There, Ja, It's Me, Ross Trent.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And then we were like, what are you talking about? It's way too long. Oh, new location for our horns section. Yeah, we went to the real library and played and fake played the horns. I wonder what college this was. It's somewhere in Manhattan. It's very fun to see these three. I mean, I say it with love.
Starting point is 00:46:20 These three nerds rocketed out. Well, leaning into that, leaning into being nerdy. Yeah, they know what they're doing. It's me, Ross Friend. Please guide me. All right, so we just watched him walking past six real Jamaican Rastafaris, and Nick Mullardy, who worked with Dina and would help out on the shorts, when we were like,
Starting point is 00:46:48 hey, how can we find people that are not background actors who then we dressed up and it's gonna look like a fake SNL version? How do we, and he was like, oh, no problem. And I forget if he lived in the Bronx or Brooklyn. He's like, there's a store right by me and there's always a bunch of them hanging out. I go there sometimes, I forget what he said he bought there.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He knew exactly where to go and he went there. I don't know what conversation they had, but he immediately had six real Rastas who were super nice and we told them what the bit was and they're like, yeah, but they had thickest, I can't, I'm not even going to pretend to be able to do it, the thickest true Jamaican accents and we're super down for it, and thought it was funny, and did it perfect. I remember them being like, yeah, we're cool, it's funny, but then after we did the first take of it,
Starting point is 00:47:34 them really laughing, because they fully understood that, they were like, we know this guy. Yeah, it was a little bit nerve wrracking and embarrassing on our end because it was happening in real life and here they are and we're like we're gonna be walking by and playing this reggae song and he's gonna do this and there's no they were great yeah and they were wonderful and it was uh yeah props to Nick. Stana Hoy, Stan Ahoy, Stan Ahoy, Stan Ahoy, John. Stan Ahoy. Stan Ahoy, I think, is Michael Rose from Black Uhuru.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, I can't remember at this time exactly, but that's my memory of it. Oh, fuck. Because I also almost picture Barrington Levy doing it in Black Rose's, but no. Quick thing, in the most played section of the song, it is on YouTube, it is definitely you walking by the real. The real Ross. The real McCoys.
Starting point is 00:48:31 The real Ross dudes. And this is from Kevin Miller, I texted Dina and she said Joe Lin got permission to shoot in his classroom and in his dorm room, Fordham University. There you go. And shout out to Joe. Yeah, thanks, Joe. And you guys just rolled up to, you just rolled up on Stone, Cold Stone in Times Square and asked if you could shoot
Starting point is 00:48:52 and that you guys were real cowboys. There we go. It's a important line in the song, but I guess we had our backup plan, which is that you would just stand on the street and they can't stop us on the sidewalk and you were just gonna point to the sign. Yeah, it was gonna be a Magnolia
Starting point is 00:49:06 It was gonna work no matter what but the fact that we got to just go behind because it was a bunch of teenagers working They're like sure Then yeah, I wonder nice thing about the times the Times Square Cold Stone does not have the head of corporate on site I wonder if we got a shot of me outside of Cold Stone first, Keev, in the mask. Probably, in case we got the boot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And fighting and Zion and roots. Red Stripes. Red Stripes is, of course, Jamaican Beer. Just doing another. That's another cool running, basically. And Fussing and Fighting is a song. Shaba, Shaba Ranks. He's just a famous artist. Now you're on the Judy Blume book.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It's a nice visual callback to a joke from a little while ago. So this line is two songs. We're just smushing them all together at the end here, all stuff we love. Night Nurse is a song by Gregory Isaacs that we love. Plant the Corn is a Anthony B song. I think, is it called Plant the Corn or is it called Raid the Barn?
Starting point is 00:50:17 But nobody want to plant the corn, everybody want to raid the barn. And that's a fucking great song. That's a great song. No one wants to do the work, but they all want to eat the food, you know? Who wants to plant the corn? Skiddily-woah!
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yours kind of makes it sexual that your night nurse never wants to plant the corn. It's just, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just quoting stuff, which is also admittedly what we were kind of doing. Skiddily-woah back to Barrington Levy. Skiddily-woh, skiddily-woh, skiddily-woh, skiddily-woh. Yeah, Skiddily-woah is Barrington Levy. I mean, there's a hint of Ica Mouse throughout the song,
Starting point is 00:50:51 but no, like, overt reference in that same way. But if you thought Ica Mouse, you're not off. I think there was some Yellow Man, like, zunga, zunga, zunga zang, that we were debating all the time and just couldn't find a place to put it in. Yeah. Like, all the people that just couldn't find a place to put it in. Yeah. Like all the people that did good scatty nonsense stuff. So there you have it.
Starting point is 00:51:10 All right, that was it. I think we've been waiting however many years it's been to tell people what was actually in it. I'm sure on geniusrapgenius.com or whatever, I'm sure they have some of that. Yes. It is a very ship in a bottle construction. It's a very funny idea.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Very nice of you to share with us all. It is a real credit to your knowledge of the genre. I know you love when I say stuff like that. It makes us so happy. Yoram just came here. If he comes in with this. Yes. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Hi, bud. What's up, Yoram? Well, that was an abrupt ending. Hi, guys. Hi, bud. What's up, Yoram? Well, that was an abrupt ending. Hi, everybody. This is Seth, and what I'm doing right now is called a post-record, where days after I return to the podcast studio to leave some final thoughts. We got a little off the rails at the end of this episode. Basically, what happened is Yoram realized he had missed the podcast
Starting point is 00:52:08 and then drove over to Akiva's house. He then came into Akiva's house and Andy and I needless to say, we're relentlessly busting on him for that choice, but he couldn't hear us because he didn't have headphones in. So Akiva would have to hear our burns and then repeat them to Yoruma. The reality is, it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It was happening, but it did not make for a very good podcast. It was an abrupt end. So I'm here to tell you that, yes, we did not get to any of the Jon Hamm episode, which is an golden episode from that era. So we're going to talk about that in our next episode. It's gonna be a standalone episode about everything else
Starting point is 00:52:48 in that marvelous 90 minutes of television. We did not discuss if Ross Trent was a criterion episode. We'll get to that as well. But you know what? Sound off in the comments. Why not do that as well? Thank you, everybody. We love you, too. See you soon. Next week, why not?

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