The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Roy Rules

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

This week The Lonely Island and Seth talk about the digital short, Roy Rules! They discuss how the short came to be and we hear a special voice message on today's episode! The guys also talk about SNL... sketches including Mike's Marbleopolis, Kuatos, and more! (Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.)If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @thelonelymeyerspod. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo ISLAND at ShopMando.com! #mandopod Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LONELY for $20 off your first purchase.  Terms apply. Gametime.  Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome to the Seth Meyers and Lonely Island podcast. I'm Seth Meyers. Gentlemen, you want to introduce yourselves? Oh, pretty deep into our run here, but I guess, uh, yeah. Hi, it's Andy. Hey, this is Akiva. Sorry to jump on you, Yorba. May I take the second spot here today? Yeah. This is Akiva. Okay. And this is Yorba.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Hey, my dick is little. I have a little dinky dingle. Come on, guys. That's not what I sound like. Because I'm a stinky little turd guy. No! We talked about this ahead of time. It was a burn on you, Yorn. We talked about it ahead of time. And we set you up and we just fucking slammed you, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And so part of the setup was Andy being very resentful that I asked you to introduce yourself. The long grift, brother. And you played it perfectly, bro. You seem so mad. The longest of grifts. Anyway, this is your man. The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I wanna throw something out to our listeners, which is this. And maybe by the next episode, we will have been instructed on a better way to do this. But if you want to, in the YouTube comments of this episode, leave some questions, maybe we'll just do part of our next episode, we'll be answering some of those questions.
Starting point is 00:01:08 So if you have questions for the Lonely Island dudes or even me, you know what? Fire away. I'm sure there's a better way to get your questions and I'm sure we're going to tell you what that is. We're going to talk about April 21st, 2007. Scarlett Johansson is back to host. Remember it well. You do remember it well, Yoram? Nope.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Because you remember Nary a thing. Zero things. Okay, good. He was exercising sarcasm. Yeah. Ah, it was a little bit of the old Yoramie sarcasm. Classic. All right, so we have a very fun digital short that I rewatched and enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And I wouldn't have said, you know, it's not top of my list, but I do think about Roy rules a lot. I know it's a huge part of your life, Andy. Major. So Roy rules is about your brother-in-law. It's about my real life brother-in-law, Roy. I guess we should just start off by saying Roy, my actual brother-in-law, is one of my favorite people
Starting point is 00:02:00 in the world. Right. I've known him since I was in high school. He and my sister have been together a long ass time and have a beautiful marriage and a wonderful beautiful family, whom I love dearly. No sarcasm. No sarcasm. It's hard for me to sound sincere.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah. Because I'm all mangled up inside. You know what I mean? Sure. Got a hard run of things. From Keith always bullying on you? Uh-huh. Wailing on you? Shut the fuck up. Damn it, it's happening again.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Seth, save me. I know your won't. I can't step in. I can't step in. This is your dynamic. I love you. Anyway, I love the heck out of Roy. And I don't remember exactly when the idea was first breached.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I remember this though. Part of what like prompted this was us being like, we were tired. Then maybe I'm misremembering this, I probably am. But I remember us being tired of having full crews and moving at the speed of like a crew. So at least for me, I was like, let's pare this down and get back to us with a camera.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It did. It was a conscious choice to do something kind of run and gun and low stakes. We weren't swinging for the fences. And I think for us, I mean, look, we were still actually relatively early in our run at the show, but we didn't understand that or how it was going to feel over the course of time. So it was like, hey, let's do a weird one. And by making it actually personal, that was a totally new move for us.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And the idea of doing this song about my actual brother-in-law just kept making me really laugh. And imagining what it would be like if we could actually get it on the air and he would hear that it had happened and then eventually see it made me really laugh. I wanna note again, it's end of the season and this episode in the next, we'll be talking about your final two digital shorts
Starting point is 00:03:54 of this year. Jorm, you said you were tired and the next two we're gonna talk about have a real patina of tired on them. Yeah. And kind of, I think a pretty pretty lazy YORM vibe too. Yeah, we're limping to the finish line for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And when Andy was suggesting this, I don't recall, Keev, your input on doing this or not, but I can't imagine that you were like, this is great. I don't think Keev was even there. I think this is another week. I don't think I got off completely like you don't have to show up to work, but I think I must've been pretty heavy into Hot Rod. Yes. It's April.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was coming out in August. Yeah, it was me and you, Yoram and Matt Murray. Yeah, yeah, cause I remember us, like you kept pitching this idea of your brother-in-law, a song that was got kind of sexual about your brother-in-law and maybe like, yes, that's great, that's great, let's do that. I mean, should we jump in?
Starting point is 00:04:45 I did rewatch it. So did I. Okay, I do wanna say something real quick and I'm gonna go back. And I'm only doing this, Andy, because as we've established, hopefully on this podcast, Andy is dominant in the spelling bee, the New York Times word game, right?
Starting point is 00:04:57 You're the king. In our relationship, yeah. Yeah, but I do think it's broached the subject, not breached the subject. Oh. Sorry, I was thinking of the way that I like birth ideas. I see. So it was a breaching and that you like
Starting point is 00:05:12 sort of broke through the- And it breached cause it was not ideal. It was not a normal birth, you were saying? Oh, do you think I'm gonna back down off this? Being dead wrong? Seth, I actually have to confess something to you. What's that? It's about today. What is it?
Starting point is 00:05:31 I used a hint. You used a hint for spelling bee? To get queen bee. You got it clean. And I just sort of texted you like, I got it too. But I didn't say, I use one hint. I like though, I want to go back to the fact that I believe you should say you broached the subject of Roy rules, but considering this is a digital short that was maybe coming
Starting point is 00:05:52 out legs first. Yeah, it was a complicated birth. And by the way, it was because it didn't air immediately and it took some time to reach the air. Yeah. All right. So again, we've established Roy Rolls is a digital short about Andy's love for his actual brother-in-law, Roy.
Starting point is 00:06:09 That's what I remembered from it. And I will say I watched it. I was surprised many times and I laughed very hard. I would say that in the grand scheme of this, it was better in rewatch than I had expected. It's better in rewatch and worse looking than I remember. Yeah. It looked atrocious. I laughed a few times.watch and worse looking than I remember. Yeah. It looked atrocious.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I laughed a few times. There were a few things I'd forgotten about. My favorite joke in it by far was he loves wearing t-shirts and he's wearing a button-up shirt. Yeah. Well, can we talk about who played Roy? Right. Let's begin with the fact that your actual brother-in-law,
Starting point is 00:06:40 Roy, part of the joy of this for you is that he would find out once it aired, which means he could not play himself in this digital short. So you had to cast Roy. That's right. The incomparable Brian Tucker. He's a writer at SNL.
Starting point is 00:06:52 One of the great SNL writers. Keev, why don't you talk a little bit about Tucker. Tucker joined the show with us same year, and he had come from, I think, Chappelle Show at that point and some other shows like that, right? Yep. I think Neil Brennan recommended him. I some other shows like that, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. I think Neil Brennan recommended him.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I believe he pitched the idea of the racial draft, the great Chappelle sketch. Yeah. Yes. And I feel like when we started, the writers, it was just Jost, us, and him were kind of the ones that started at the same time. So there was always a kinship there. We also put him and threw it on the ground. Threw it on the ground.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Sorry, I don't know the name of our song, which we'll talk about later, but he's the hot dog vendor. He just has a great look and he's good at acting. He really captures Roy, I think. He also just has such a good straight man's stare of just being put upon. He plays amazingly well. He was our first choice, obviously. I think about something Tucker did once to you,
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yoram, because I really had a great appreciation for it. And it was based on your shared love of hip hop. Yes. What is the name of the Public Enemy song that is, I got a letter from the government the other day. Oh, that's right. I took it and read it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Tucker did so many good ones of those. So there's a Public Enemy song. I got a letter from the government the other day. I took it and read it. It said they were suckers. Yeah. And he just put a letter under your door, Yoram, that said it was from the government.. I took it and read it and said they were suckers. Yeah. And he just put a letter under your door, Yoram, that said it was from the government,
Starting point is 00:08:08 and you open it up and it just said, we're suckers. Yes. That's all that's said on that. That's right. Yeah. And then I loved the joke so much that I made like 12 copies of it or something and then sent it to my friend in DC
Starting point is 00:08:21 so that it could have, if people checked where it came from, that it would have a DC. And then sent it to all of our friends. Like we have a WhatsApp chain of all of our buddies from high school and sent it to all of those guys and then never told anyone. By the way, the name of the song is Black Steel and the Hour of Chaos. Of course. It's a really good way to start a song. Definitely not. A great title that is not easy to remember based on the lyrics. Could have just called it Letter from the Government, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Different times. More than that. The other thing, I don't remember the specifics of it, but we talked a lot about how so many of the Dre comeback album songs were about how people forgot about him and everyone was dissing him. And we were like, I don't, I haven't heard any of that. I hadn't heard anyone saying they forgot. It hasn't actually really been that long. He did some bit about it. Do you guys remember what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:14 No. I can't, but that's really good. Yeah. It was like Dre sent out a memo from his desk, his official office. It was like, reminder, don't forget about me or something. There were a lot of really like, reverse engineered rap lyric bits
Starting point is 00:09:31 that Tucker would do and slip under our door. Also, if you watch Roy Rolls, the fun thing about Tucker's incredible, sort of encyclopedic rap knowledge, and it should be noted, was one of the great Kenan collaborators in his time on the show. Oh, yeah, always.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Wrote better stuff for Keenan maybe than anybody. That's saying a lot. Tucker looks like the whitest white guy of all the white guys. That's also his real family in the video. It is. Oh, yeah. His kids, that's his apartment.
Starting point is 00:09:57 He spent nothing on this video. Shout out to Tucker. I definitely had a moment of realizing, because his daughter is in one of the shots, and I'm like, that's fully, that person is probably out of college. Yeah, for sure. It was because his daughter is in one of the shots and I'm like, that's fully, that person is probably out of college. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It was 15 years ago, right? More? Yeah. Tucker looks the same and then the shocking thing would be to see what his daughter looks like now, for sure. Probably a lot like Tucker. So Roy rules starts with a very, I would say first verse, Andy is just loving Roy for his very simple things,
Starting point is 00:10:23 simple ways. Yeah, just a good guy, like a nice addition to the family. Yeah. All true. No sarcasm. No sarcasm. Then it becomes a very sex-positive, I would call it. Yeah. Thank you, Keith. Did you know there's over a billion people in the world? There's over a million in New York alone.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But the only one I'm into is my brother-in-law, Roy. Roy rules. He's married to my sister. He wakes up in the morning, watches Dora with my niece, and then mechs on bananas. Roy rules. He works out in the morning. He runs in the park, and he does a bunch of crunches,
Starting point is 00:10:59 so he's got a killer body. I'm so glad my sister married Roy. He gets along great with the whole family. He's hardworking and great with kids. Also, I want to have sex with Roy. There's a lot of contradictions in the song, which I think is something about it that I like. Keep talking about how I want to have sex with him,
Starting point is 00:11:17 but then I'm not interested in him sexually. Yeah, it's a little confusing. There's a real classic turn where, I mean, pretty much I think it's almost just like a two verse song. First verse is like, this dude's an awesome brother-in-law, and the next verse is I want a bonum. Yeah. Well, there's a bridge too.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I mean, it has a really good structure. What is your fantasy that he's a pirate? In my dreams, he's dressed like a pirate and my dong is his peg leg. Yeah. That's a good line. It's a very specific fantasy. I wish we were counting how many of your sketches and shorts had the word DONG in them.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Let's count. You know what? Sound off in the comments. Sound off, guys. I don't know. You know, a helpful sound effect to have, Yoram, would be like a big old bell DONG sound. I'll work on it.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We can just play when it comes up. OK. I'll work on that. But there's also very fun, subtle performance by Tucker when the song takes a shift. It should be noted, as Roy is being celebrated over the course of this song, Tucker is just going about his business.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He's not that excited about it, but he does give you a little bit of side-eye when he finds out you want to do a bunch of 69 stuff with him. Take off our pants and rail on each other, burn his parents license in a waste bin. Don't get me wrong, I'm not interested in Roy sexually, he's my sister's husband. Still though, if me and Roy did hook up,
Starting point is 00:12:34 it would be a 24-7-69. It was very fun to shoot, it was very running gun. I have an anecdote about it, a lore-nictote. Oh great, good. So we shot this anecdote about it, a lore-nictote. Oh, great. Oh, good. So we shot this and edited it, and it didn't air the first time we tried it. And then I remember being like, what? How dare they?
Starting point is 00:12:56 This is our art. This is quality. And then it was unclear if this is really the reason, or it was just like we first tried to put it on a strong show where they didn't need a piece of tape because they had better stuff. Or if later I was told, hey, because the original line was, I've got this theory he was put on Earth by God to give men succulent hand jobs.
Starting point is 00:13:18 We did that version. We made that version. That was written and recorded and filmed. And then we got told by someone, that's the reason it didn't air, you can't say succulent hand jobs. So we. Fixed it. Spent a good hour pitching replacements, by the way, furious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 The whole time. Fucking unbelievable that they would make us change this. And it got to the point somehow that I was on the phone with Lorne because he wasn't at the office, but we were like, hey, we need to lock this in if we're doing it. So I was so. Poor Lorne, just picturing this conversation.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So I ended up on the phone with Lorne and I'm like, hey, so yeah, so we're trying to fix, you know, succulent hand jobs. He's like, aha. And I go, how would you feel about succulent rub downs? And there's a long pause and he goes, I could live with succulent rub downs.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And I go, okay, great, thank you. And we like hung up. I remember as soon as I hung up, me and Yoram started laughing so hard. We were like, what is our life? What is this job? What is the job that we, A, realizing how mad we were about it, and then realizing like, we just talked to the boss
Starting point is 00:14:35 about changing hand jobs for rubdowns. That's a forever Lorne moment for me. I can live with succulent rubdowns. If Lorne was being investigated by the feds for some sort of insider trading thing, his phones were tapped and there were two dudes in a van outside his house just with headphones on. forever Lauren moment for me. I can live with succulent rubdowns. If Lauren was being investigated by the feds for some sort of insider trading thing and his phones were tapped and there were two dudes in a van outside his house
Starting point is 00:14:49 just with headphones on. Just listening. We got him. They're like, we don't have anything on the banking stuff. We did hear him say he could live with rubdowns. Rubdowns is funnier too. It was surprising and I was relieved when it said it. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It is better. They were right. What was the name of our censor too that we love? Betsy Torres. Yeah, Betsy Torres. Yes, yes, that we spent a lot of time with. And she would occasionally like really suggest horrible replacements for things where you'd be like, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That was the great thing about Betsy is that she would sometimes be offended by a sort of modern bad word. And then she'd pitch something from 50 years ago that had aged so badly. It was like disgusting. You're like, oh God. A thousand times worse.
Starting point is 00:15:28 In her defense, she was representing what the censors and everybody went by, you know? I have nothing but love for Betsy Torres. And I also think that as far as network censors go, when she tracked you down, it was always with a real, let's try to help each other out here vibe. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:47 But she would sit with us for every song and literally be like, there I can still hear an F and there's some K in there, I can still hear it. That's great. That is really good times. The nice thing in the end where you admit in the body of the song that we have not been seeing the real Roy the whole time, and then you show a picture of Roy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Then there's a really funny, you basically make the case, you ultimately fill in a blank that you feel the audience has had, which they've been looking at Tucker and they don't quite get why you want to have so much sexual relations with this person based on how Tucker looks. And then you show a picture of Roy. And with all due respect to Roy, it's not like young Gosling or anything.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It's a nice picture from his wedding. Yeah, better, agreed, better. But then what is the line Andy says? Well, it is like, so I guess now you understand everything I've been saying. Like as if the photo will... Look at this hot tamale. You know you want a piece of this.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You now see why this was very necessary. Yeah. It makes it all make sense. Wait, Andy, how did you get the picture? Did you tell your sister that you were going to do this beforehand or no? I think I just had it on my laptop. It's from their wedding.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You can see a little bit of my sis in that pic. Yes. And you know, it was a special time in our family, for sure. What was the family reaction, like across the board? That's the part I want to get to. Yes. OK, so I haven't heard what I'm about to play Oh good, I hit up Roy right before this and said send me a voice note
Starting point is 00:17:10 So let's just see what he said it we're going in cold. All right, don't ever go. Don't judge him We went to the show before it aired and I think it was supposed to air that week, but it got pulled I think that's what Andy told me so people seen the short and then when we were hanging when we were hanging with Andy backstage The different cast members were really interested in meeting me, but then you know It was one after another so I thought this was a prank or kind of a joke Andy was pulling on me like pretend you're interested in my brother Roy whatever and so I didn't want to fall for the joke. And each cast member kept kind of reacting that way.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And then I remember when I met Seth, he was really excited or seemed to be excited to meet me. He's like, you're Roy, the real Roy. You're Roy's, Andy's brother-in-law Roy. And I was like, yeah. And I was starting to get annoyed. I was like, I'm not falling for this joke. But then I also remember
Starting point is 00:18:05 Bill Hader and Brian Tucker sitting with me and asking me questions about my life and really interested in my life and laughing at the wrong moments. They would laugh when I told them I had three kids and what I did for a living. And I found that awkward and weird. And then when it aired, I remember my friend Chris calling me from New York, because I live in California, and saying, did you see us now? And whatever. And I was like, what? And then I guess he realized and just hung up. But then it aired and I was like, oh man, these characters.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Because Andy's been playing, me and Andy were doing pranks on each other for a bit. And so I guess this was the ultimate prank. But I remember after it aired, Kiva, Yorm, and Andy called and checked in. And then people started calling me like crazy, my friends mainly. And I was worried that I needed to change my phone number or my email, because I didn't want to be harassed
Starting point is 00:18:55 for the rest of my life. But that wasn't the case. So it's all good. Oh, well, hopefully this will start that up again. The harassment. I like that based on the timeline, he could have actually thought that maybe, like, Tucker and Hader went to you after that after party and were like,
Starting point is 00:19:12 you gotta write a song about this dude. We just gleaned so much dirt. And he does rule. He do rule. Oh, my God. You can kind of tell he rules from that voice now. Oh, my God, he's the best. So it had played at dress the week before and the week he came. It probably had just played at dress and then he came to the live show. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So it was very fresh for everybody. Yeah. And then I got a cut. I love that he specifically remembered you, Seth, being like, you're the ruler. It's just such a funny way to meet somebody for the first time if they have no context for why. You're like, how much does Andy talk about me? I like to that he would call up to get his phone number changed.
Starting point is 00:19:53 They're like, why do you want to change it? He explains and they're like, I don't think you're going to need to change it. You'll be good. I think you can bury. This is one of their lesser works. I think there'll be a short burst and then it's going to go away forever. How often do you think that that's happened on the show that someone specific has been
Starting point is 00:20:07 called? Just a joke for one person in the audience. Hey. You let the whole audience in in the last, like, well, here, let me just read this comment off the YouTube channel. Oh, yeah, please do. Oh, thanks. Good work.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Good work. Yeah, it's from seven days ago, which is impressive for a short with not a lot of views. It has legs. It has legs. It has legs. So it says, the final 10 seconds is what makes this possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen on SNL. That's from D. Nowitzki. Dirk Nowitzki.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh, it's Dirk Nowitzki. The dance maverick's great. But I mean, I do kind of agree that that last 10 seconds kind of excuses the entire navel gazing of it. Yes. There's also a very, the entire navel gazing of it. Yes. There's also the moment where you just were playing a little mini piano is also very funny. Yeah. I mean, it looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It looks terrible. That's part of what lets me know it's true though as well. I go, oh, this is real. Yes. Very true. There's only one shot with lighting, which is when you come off of the piano and then look down. That was the only shot that we were like, this is a little dark. So we shot like a basic lamp that was in the writers room up at your face.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Psychotic. Only shot with lighting. There's also a moment, the t-shirt moment, Andy, is of course the backdrop. If you work at S&L, you immediately recognize it as the world map that is on Steve Higgins' wall. Higgins' wall, yeah. Steve Higgins, he will continue to come up. I believe his office is what I always believed
Starting point is 00:21:29 I wanted an office to be. He just seemed like a very cultured man. Espresso machine. World map wallpaper and a cappuccino machine. And you would go into his office, oftentimes maybe feeling a little down, and he would offer you an espresso. Sparkling water as well.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Or a sparkling water. And you would sit in a very, very, very comfortable chair with a view of New York City, and I love that office a lot. Yeah, and then he would point at the map and go, where's this? And you go, ah, I don't know. So earlier I mentioned that Matt Murray helped us on Roy Rules, and he sent me a voice note.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay, great. Hey guys, Matt Murray here. You're talking about Roy Rules, something I just watched and have zero memory of being involved with. Right. But Andy says I might have been. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I tend not to really remember much of what I did at SNL, either through a combination of stress or shame or booze. But it's possible. I'm going to say it was possible. It was a pretty tasty riff though. I do like the melody of it. If I was involved in that, then I did a great job. All right, bye. That was for sure worth doing. I do think it's worth doing.
Starting point is 00:22:46 No, I feel like though it was me with the camera shooting you, Andy, and I thought that Matt was with us. Maybe we had like Rachel Lin was with us, or like maybe one other person. I just want to say this. I feel like I've got in my dreams, he's dressed like a pirate in my dongas, his peg like was a Matt Murray thing. That sounds about right. Yes. The panther. I also want to say I never tire of having my time in the show validated when I hear a cool customer like Matt Murray say that he was stressed. Even alluding to the fact that he might not remember things due to stress. I feel so I might well I
Starting point is 00:23:22 hate the fact that he was stressed it's very validating and rewarding for me to know that I was not alone. Because a lot of people hit it very well. Yeah, he hit it very well. I had that with John Solomon. John Solomon was like that to me too, because he always just seemed so even keeled. And then at one point I heard he like went to the hospital for like heart palpitations. I was like, oh good.
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Starting point is 00:27:07 Download Game Time today. Last-minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. Game Time. You guys, that was in the Scarlett show. Scarlett was not in the sketch. Yeah. We didn't shoot it that week. It was filmed three weeks earlier as we've discussed. Of course, right. And that's why I can't figure out where I was either,
Starting point is 00:27:27 because whatever week I wasn't involved was not this week. Yes. But no host. There was a host the week it was shot, and there was never going to be a host sketch. I do want to talk about Scarlett and Andi's work together in this show, because something historic happened. Oh, you're talking about Quanto 2.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'm talking about Quanto 2. Yes. Now, good stuff. Here's you talking about Quato 2. I'm talking about Quato 2. Yes. Good stuff. Here's the thing about Quato 2. You know what? I do feel like we should probably end on Quato 2. Yes. I do want to hit a couple other small notes in the Scarlet Show.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Okay. Your Sanjaya impression really did burn hot for a couple of weeks there. Just a few weeks after you appear on Update, you were back in the monologue. You were singing something to talk about the Bonnie Raitt song with Scarlett as Sanjaya. I had a hot show then in the monologue and a Quato and Roy Rules. And Roy Rules.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And I guess that's maybe all I have to say about the Scarlett show until she did, her and Fred did another one, this time as Marble Columns, fantastic. Oh yeah. She gets an applause break as his daughter Lexi, killer. The way she talks about columns.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Is it this one and that one? This one and that one. Yeah, this one and that one is the best. You got to get yourself some Marble Columns. You don't believe me? Just ask my daughter Lexi. Look at these columns. Look at this one. Look at that one. Can you believe me? Just ask my daughter Lexi. Look at these columns. Look at this one.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Look at that one. Can you believe it? You can stick these things everywhere. They make your house look like a palace, like a castle. People are gonna look at your house and go, who lives there? The Pope? Oh, I will also, Yoram, throw me over to Seth's Corner real quick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Seth's Corner, you're all invited. Seth's Corner, it's happening right now. Take it away, Seth. Jost and I, it should be noted, we worked together on this sketch. It was a bad sketch, okay? Yeah. And yet, Scarlett overlooked that. Sweet. And did take his hand in marriage. So it couldn't have been that bad. Yeah, she married him despite the sketch. I do not want to go into this sketch.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It was just a very average sketch. It was not particularly inventive. And I was in between dress and air. Maybe I think it was during air. Sometimes during air, you get the word that you have to find 30 seconds from a sketch. Yeah. And so I went down to the booth
Starting point is 00:29:42 to basically give changes to the script supervisors on the show. I had a great and continue to have a great relationship with the people who do scripts at SNL. I think they have one of the hardest jobs on the show. Yeah, for sure. I love them very much. I think that they had a great amount of respect for me. I think I was one of the better people as far as getting my changes in on time. Had good handwriting.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Kind of things they look at and judge well. Respectable qualities. That's definitely the kind of stuff they look at and judge well. Respectable qualities. That's definitely the kind of stuff they factor when they're deciding who gets the Mark Twain Prize. Yes. Good penmanship. Point being, somebody, as they were taking the notes, somebody felt very confident that this was Joe's sketch and not a me and Joe sketch.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And they said something super snarky about the sketch. Right in front of me. I would like to also point out what they said was the fairest of hits. My God, yes. But it was deeply not cool to say something mean about a sketch right in front of the person as he changes. And to this person's credit, the next week, I'm sure what happened is I walked away
Starting point is 00:30:46 and they were informed of the mistake they made. And this person came to my office the following Monday to apologize and everything about it. It was a honest mistake, a fair assessment and so professionally handled. But I do remember when they came to my office, my whole take was like, yeah, by the way, I'm sorry we wrote it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Like. It was an equal exchange of apologies. My take was the hardest part about it was just how true it all was. Oh my God. It hurt in its accuracy. Everyone at the show talks shit about the show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Like you forget that every department, the moment the door is shut, they go, you know, they're like, I gotta make wigs for this fucking terrible sketch. Yeah, exactly. Like everyone and every department. Guys, I feel like I've established where I stand on where I historically stood on Quado.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I rewatched Quado 2 today. It's a masterpiece. This is a full turnaround. Whoa. I laughed so hard. I feel like you did the first Quado and then I was just a walking diss track about the first Quado and the second Quado is a response to my lame-ass disses. Yeah. And it just had, I felt very put in my place. It was our, they not like us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:07 We just doubled down on everything. Is that what it did for you? So first of all, it starts the way through time and memoriam, SNL sketches have started. It's two couples, very nondescript suburban home. Thanks for dinner, you guys. It's so nice to have a home-cooked meal every once in a while. Well, truth be told, we had ulterior motives for inviting you guys over. Yeah, Danny and I have something to tell you.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh my God, I knew it! You guys are getting married! No, no, it's not that. It's just, I've got a Quado. What? You know, a Quado. A little alien man that lives inside your stomach. Oh, like in the Schwarzenegger film, Total Recon.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Exactly. Anyways, in that movie, Quado is the leader of the mutant resistance on Mars. And now he lives in my stomach. By the way, the audience, nothing. Why? Yeah, okay. No recognition applause.
Starting point is 00:33:03 No recognition on Quado, no recognition on the movie. Yeah, that's a good way to start. Again, I mean, the thing that's really impressive is we're moving, like things are off and running. We have not spent a lot of time in this home and we're deep into the Quado story. No chuffa, no shoe leather. We're just getting right in.
Starting point is 00:33:17 The only shoe leather, I would say, Andy, is Maya does a cross to fill up her bottle of wine, fill up her glass of wine. Right, because we've got to make the swap. There's a definite Quada swap happening. Because we have a very slow talking Maya. Masterful. I think I better just show you.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, you guys might really want to have another drink. I think you'll like Quada once you get to know him, though. I mean, it can be a little disarming for people when they first see him, but I guarantee you, I really think you're going to know him though. I mean, it can be a little disarming for people when they first see him, but I guarantee you, I really think you're gonna like him. Uh-oh, here he is. Oh, here we're ready to cut to him. And again, one of the great things about Quado is,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I don't know what era specifically his slang is from. He immediately comes out and says, I'll snap Quado in the house. I mean, all of our stuff was early 90s, right? Early to mid 90s, yeah. Early 90s Bay Area slang. Like when 80s says, zarks, for instance. That's not a normal slang word that is specific to the...
Starting point is 00:34:15 Zarks? No. So, I'll snap Quado in the house. Immediately, I will say, immediately today I'm laughing. Amy, oh my God, what is that thing? This is maybe, I mean, chisel this on a tablet and put it in the next Pharaoh's tomb to save. Oh God, what is that thing? Hey lady, take a picture and it'll last longer.
Starting point is 00:34:38 But seriously, any of you quakes got a smint, my breath is kicking harder than Adam Vinatieri. Oh, good one. That's just like a great sense that you've never heard before. Keeping it topical for the Seth man. Keeping it topical. Yeah, he still likes Smintz. Fred says, seriously, Susan, that thing is really gross.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Again, Andy's gonna, I'm sorry, Andy, Quada's gonna continue to keep it topical. Thank you. Whatever, Quaid, you're no Gary Underwood yourself. Hey, but all jokes aside, he knows he's joking. He knows he has a sense of humor. Hey, but all jokes aside, what's the status on that smint snaggage?
Starting point is 00:35:16 He's the life of the party and he knows it. That's kind of his attitude. He just asked for the smint too. It's really too early to follow up. Then there's a really nice move. Amy, how can you live with that thing? It's vile. Quado, you know what lady?
Starting point is 00:35:31 You need to talk to the hand. Do you remember what the follow up to this is, Andy? Because there's an ear in the hand, that's where I hear. Yep. Yeah, is it exactly that? Yep, because there's an ear on the hand. Seriously, that's where I hear stuff. We see there's an ear on his hand. Seriously, that's where I hear stuff. We see there's an ear on his hand.
Starting point is 00:35:46 That's where I hear stuff. It's just a practical request. Yeah. Again, we mentioned earlier how you like to use dong. There's another word you enjoy, which came up in the next line. Now, of course, Bill is no longer in the sketch. It's a dummy of Bill that looks like it was going
Starting point is 00:36:04 to be ready the next day. Yeah, pretty bad dummy. Like, it was like they ran out of time to make the head look like Bill. Yeah. It should be noted you're not spending a lot of time looking at the dummy because Quado does draw the eye. No, but you notice. You do notice, though.
Starting point is 00:36:18 He does. Quado yells out, Hey, who wants to see me take out Danny's wiener and see it through like a microphone? He's in the perfect spot for it. I gotta say, I'm sort of bummed you didn't get to see that happen in the sketch. Then Maya says she has a Quado.
Starting point is 00:36:33 She goes back to his town and says she has a Quado. The longest two-shot of Fred and Aiden having to react to the Quado switch. And again, the only world in which Quado likes Smint's is of course the first Quado sketch. Yeah, it's reoccurring. It's playing red hot. Like, everything gross about the Quados the audience is going for.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about that. And then Scarlet comes out. First out the most, then it's a Quado party. Hey babe, I thought you'd never get here. These Quads are real snooze fast. He said it. And check out that one. He looks like his neck took a dump in zero gravity.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Hey! Nice one, Quade. High five. OK. Wait. Wait. It's very difficult because our arms are so small. You guys have tiny little arms, and you're
Starting point is 00:37:21 struggling to high five. People are really enjoying that. Yeah, that's good stuff. Amy says they're gross. Scarlett says, easy Quade, you're no Carrie Underwood yourself. And Andy goes, that's what I said. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, they're made for each other. Yeah, they're soulmates. And then of course, it turns out that you've had a, you've had a smint and she's kind of interested in you guys. And then you guys, the Quaddos start making out. It's a lot of fun to watch you guys get close. And then do you remember what happened to Andy? I do remember.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And there's something that happened on accident, I believe, that is my favorite part of the sketch. Oh, I don't know which part happens on accident. We wrote it as everyone starts throwing up, right? Yeah, Amy and Fred start throwing up. Like that crazy throw up, as we've established, it's never as much fun as you think it's gonna be because people have to hold their hands crazy
Starting point is 00:38:07 because the throw up's coming up a tube on their arm. Yes, although as kids that grew up watching SNL, there's something so funny because of the nostalgia of seeing cast members do it that way. Holding their hand to the side of their mouth while it shoots out from behind their hands. It sputters out. You know how you always hold your hand up to your mouth
Starting point is 00:38:24 when you're throwing up? Yeah. Nostalgic. And then two cops walk in, right? Yeah. Hey, dear sister. It's Will and Keenan or other people at the party. They just walk in. They're not cops.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Oh, OK. Good. That's good. But they walk in and immediately vomit. Yes. So but in the script, I believe, and I could be wrong, they come in and say a few lines, then see it, and then start throwing up.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But what happened on air was they came in, and before they got their lines out, the barf started firing. So it turned into actually the best cut to ever, which is just two people you haven't seen in the sketch walk in and immediately start throwing up with no words. It's fantastic. I'm so glad you said that.
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's fantastic and I am looking at the script and yeah, they did have a line. Yes, what was the line? Hey guys, sorry we late, traffic was the worst, oh God. Yes. It's so much more funny not to know. Just be like, and then two more people come in to throw up.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And by the way, if you had written it for it to be the way it was, the timing would not have been that good. No, absolutely. Correct. It's so good. Like everything about it is incredible serendipity. And it's really funny.
Starting point is 00:39:36 It's such a perfect sketch. And the part that is the most shocking to me is that neither Smint nor Molson ever gave us any free product based on it. That is weird. Nothing was sent to us, no thank you, you know? Now it's interesting to me that you would think but neither Smint nor Molson ever gave us any free product based on it. That is weird. Nothing was sent to us. No thank you, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Now it's interesting to me that you would think a major brand would like the association with Quado. It made me laugh so hard. I like that I've matured into having a completely mature sense of humor, but it's great. Now the other thing I'm realizing is maybe they queued the vomit fast because the show is running long because also I'm looking at the script queued the vomit fast because the show is running long because also I'm looking at the script at the end. Do you remember who comes out at the end?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Oh, Arnold Schwarzenegger comes out at the end? Yeah, Darryl comes out as Arnold Schwarzenegger. And that's kind of muddled, too. Well, yeah, it's like he had a long thing about, I want to speak to you about education, the Quaddas in this scene represent the students of California. You know, just like a weird long thing.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah, I thought it all got truncated for time and that's why it got super weird. Cause he runs up and goes, I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger. I wrote this sketch. Yeah. And then he holds up his hand and he has an ear on it. That proves it. Which all adds to how delightful the whole thing is.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Perfect. Yes, the sort of, it's more how we would honestly end a pre-tape, which is like it gets crazy and then you're out. But it's so hard to control that live that it has to happen almost on accident. So many weird last ideas that happen that are just a pile on of insanity. But also just to like put two people in a bar frig and get Daryl totally dressed as Arnold Schwarzenegger and put a fake ear on his hand for, like, five seconds of screen time,
Starting point is 00:41:06 you would not normally do that. Like, that's probably why we had a long thing for him as Schwarzenegger is to make it worth putting him in it, you know? Right. But in the end, it actually maybe is kind of mercifully short. Wait, because I didn't see this one, though. Is the audience actually liking it?
Starting point is 00:41:20 I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic. Yeah, they're really enjoying it. They love it. They are enjoying, I mean, let's be clear. They're enjoying how gross you guys are, trying to kiss, high five, and they are not as on board with the idea that Quaddos are into cements and Molson.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Oh, that's weird. Yeah, that's not the stuff that sticks. But it did stick, Andy. It stuck with us, because let's be clear. Much like how we said I cannot hear the word gold without thinking of Kristen and me saying it, and don't get me wrong, I'm not hearing the word smint and mulsin as often as I hear gold.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah. Smint and mulsin are forever tied to Quado for me. I was recently in Foggy London Town, as I've mentioned, a few times in past Epps, and there were multiple people on set that would go, would you like a smint? Because sometimes you get offered, you know, as an actor, a mint post lunch or whatever. Would anyone like a smint? And I would go, whoa! Is it a British mint?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, is it a bigger over there or something? On this particular set, smints were flying like smints. It would be so funny to me if every time they offered it, you thought they were bringing up Guado the sketch. He did, clearly. You're like, do you want to swim? You're like, yeah, ha ha, it's been, it was a lot of fun. I'm glad you liked it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I'm 5% embarrassed to admit it occurred to me. Smint's are UK based. Smint website is a.UK. And it came, it was 1995 that they were invented or whatever you want to call it in the UK. Invented. I wonder if you're allowed to say I just invented. I just invented something.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Well, mints existed. We know that. We should be clear. For the kids listening, mints were around before 95. But not smints. Sment was for sugar-free mints. So I would say, Andy, if you get offered a Molson in Canada
Starting point is 00:43:03 or a smint in Foggy London town, it's probably not quadro related. Not quadro related. But flip it, if you flip it, if somebody's offering you a Molson's in Foggy London town, that's a quadro head. Damn right. Yeah, deep.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah. Now, on set, and I apologize for my ignorance, are they bringing the Smints around on a Smints trolley? No, it's oftentimes hair and makeup as a courtesy will be like, would you like a mint, would you like a toothpick, like post-lunch stuff. It seems like a courtesy, but also like a courtesy for them because they're looking at your face
Starting point is 00:43:32 and probably don't want to smell your like, whatever you just ate. And getting it all close to fix up all of your blemishes. And do they say things like, your breath is kicking like Declan Rice or Harry Kane? Do they sort of make it more modern? I mean, these days, probably Jude they sort of make it more modern? I mean, these days, probably Jude.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Do they make it more modern? Your breath is kicking like Jude Bellingham? Yeah, exactly. AKA well. Oh, it's very... It's kicking quite well. It's kicking well. Real quick, Roy Roles, it should be noted,
Starting point is 00:44:00 in the digital short brackets, Roy Roles did make the final 64. It was a 15 seed and it feels about right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure there's a few that that made it further through that I personally like less. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You know, I think that for the songs, it does feel like a song on a concept album where they're all songs about a guy named Roy and you kind of are like, yeah, there's no good singles on it. But I mean, musically, it's not good on purpose. So it's an album track? Yeah, it's an unhinged character guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 So guys, I know Andy's a little biased here. Criterion, collection, Roy rules. Does it make it? Oh. Can I start? Yeah. Just to let everyone off the hook. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think no. OK. I think it's a delightful confection, and I think it represents a type of giddy, like, dumbness that we love. And I feel proud of Roy Roles. And I think it was cool that we did something that was personal in a weird way like that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 But I think if you're holding it up against the cream of the crop, I wouldn't put it in there. Yeah, it feels too lazy to me to put it in. But can I ask you another question about this Criterion Collection? How many spots do we get to put in this Criterion Collection? I kind of don't want to give this hard fast rule. Okay. Then no.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Then still no. It either feels that way or it doesn't. Now Andy, I have a follow up question. Would it be Criterion Collection if the only two shorts we ever made was this one and the one we're gonna talk about next week that's in the Zach Braff show? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 It's way better than that. All of a sudden, it's Citizen Kane, right? Yeah. For sure. Roy rules is funny. Yeah. It's funny. And it's got a beginning, middle, and an end.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It escalates, and it's got a couple laughs. All right. This is, I think, what we call a reverse tease when you start talking about- How bad, next week is it? Stay tuned. How bad, next week is it? Stick around, we come back, a shitty guest.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You gotta be a real fan for next week. I'm very much looking forward to talking about it and then it's gonna be our next one. So- This season is the one we keep, you know, talking about how we were so tired from Hot Rod right off the bat and how we had a real run of stinkers at the beginning and Tilt Dick in a Box.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But the last three, which was United Way, Dear Sister, Roy Rules, I think that that's actually run a little bit of a run. Yeah, you're right. That's a really nice run of things. Roy Rules didn't have legs or wasn't, you know, didn't make the impression those other two did. By the way, United Way and Dear Sister are both criterion for our discussions.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And I think that that's a successful season to have two of those. I think us in 10th grade, if we had seen a Roy rules on there, we would have liked it more than a lot of other things. A lot of the big ones. We would have been like, that's great. I'm on a boat's fine, but Roy rules is our shit because it's, you could tell there was something special happening there. That'd be my guess. Maybe still now I would feel that way. That's what I mean. There's something there for a certain type of weirdo.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Just to loop back to when you said, I have a Lauren anecdote. I would love if the Lauren anecdote is that he called you after it aired and was like, I'd love to meet Roy. We're nearby. I cried watching it. It was so sweet. I mean, can you imagine if somebody came in and saw the two of us together, they'd be like, oh, my God, they both rule. All right, I'm gonna ask one more time for questions.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You can leave them in the YouTube comments. You can also, we have an email address. It's thelonelyislandpod at gmail.com. Whoa. All right, guys, I love you all very much. I'm very excited about next week. The host was Zach Braff. The show was very good.
Starting point is 00:47:34 The short middling, we will leave it there. Cliffhanger, you gotta be a real fan for next week, guys. Only real fans next week. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Love you too. Yeah, love you. Yeah, love you, buddy.

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