The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Space Olympics
Episode Date: February 17, 2025This week The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers talk about the digital short (and a song on the Incredibad album) Space Olympics! Plus, they chat about Michael Phelps hosting SNL and sketches like Kathy i...n the News, Quizbowl, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler as Sarah Palin and Hilary Clinton, and more! Space Olympics - https://youtu.be/XVoBQqketHM?si=EnDBG87goQB2NP_KOlympic French Pole Vaulter on His Giant Dong - https://youtu.be/5PY_wQRLK6Y?si=ADqhGHsB-6jkNIvUWeekend Update: Cathy on Retiring - (from 2010) https://youtu.be/BMzXw5CUP_o?si=18HFB1HtTFMuiA1jSarah Palin and Hillary Address the Nation - https://youtu.be/vSOLz1YBFG0?si=D_r1HssxaK286n2J (Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod. Send us an email! thelonelyislandpod@gmail.com Support our sponsors:AirbnbVisit Airbnb.com today RinseRinse picks up, professionally cleans, and delivers your laundry and dry cleaning, straight to your door.  Sign up at Rinse.com and get $20 off your first order Thrive MarketReady for a junk-free start to 2025? Head to ThriveMarket.com/island and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Aura FramesRight now, you can save on the perfect gift that keeps on giving by visiting AuraFrames.com. For a limited time, listeners can get 20 dollars off their best-selling Carver Mat frame with code ISLAND. Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards
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Hey everybody, I don't know if cold opens are appropriate for podcasts, but just before
we all hit record, Yoram said he had a great story about medieval times.
I was there.
I don't know if it's a great story.
I think it was a good time.
It was Andy's birthday.
We all went.
I think it was like, what, six of us?
I don't know how many it was.
We had our own little table.
We've had mutton probably.
I can't remember what else we had.
We really cheered our hearts out for Azul.
That was my favorite night.
I loved Azul.
You remember the name of one of the nights. That's impressive.
Yeah, it's amazing what I do and don't remember, guys.
You didn't remember if it was a birthday or how many people, but he knew Azul.
I just remember screaming Azul at the top of my lungs and pounding on the cutlery. You
could get like pots. Things came in pots and pounding on things and everyone kept saying
stop. There was a lot of mead. Where do you feel like this is as far as a good story, Andy?
Well, I got pretty drunk and then I stole a princess hat from the gift shop and then I
jumped on someone's car in the parking lot as I recall.
Now I feel like you're just making stuff up.
No, that all happened.
I can vouch for this.
Oh, this is real?
Yeah, that all happened. Also, they give you a picture of your group and then they come over
at the end to make
sure that you want to pay for it.
And I was like, I don't have it anymore.
And they were like, sir, you clearly have the picture.
We were like 22 and broke, and we went out there and whatever volume, whatever decibel
level you're supposed to yell to root on your night, Azul, your picture double all the time.
We were all like, yeah, Azul. And you're like, Azul, your picture double all the time. We're all like, yeah, Azul, and yours like, Azul!
It was like hurting.
That's why he's remembering people coming over
to tell him to take it down enough.
They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
the horses are gonna get scared.
So you were behaving as a modern human
in a way that was inappropriate for medieval times.
That's right.
You could say that.
Where famously almost everything went,
everything was allowed. Yeah, no, no, no, that. Where famously almost everything went. Everything was allowed.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
That didn't fly at medieval times.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if this bodes well for the future of cold opens on the pod.
I think Jorm panicked once it was teed up that he was going to tell a good story and
he told all of the parts out of order and not with any particular aplomb.
I worry with you guys that my time is limited, so I try to give it back.
Give me...
I got 45 seconds to impress everybody with my drunkenness.
It was a little bit like we were like,
all right, plot of Michael Clayton,
you have 30 seconds and then we're pulling your mic.
Uh, he's a lawyer. He's a lawyer. He has a briefcase.
Oh boy, that's not important.
Can I take a stab at it, Yoram?
Fine.
It was my 20, let's say, second birthday, and I wanted to go to Medieval Times, and we all went as a big
group.
And the last thing I remember is Yoram in a princess hat that he stole from the gift
shop, standing in the parking lot as slow traffic went out of the parking lot, screaming
at the top of his lungs. Ah! Ah!
Probably Azul as well.
Azul!
He fucking won!
It went from us being like,
let's go to Evil Times, that'll be a lark,
to that image that I will never forget.
Okay.
One of my friends once decided,
after a long night of drinking,
we were at a restaurant that had a neon World Cup 94
sign, and he decided he was going to steal it.
He needed it.
And we were like, don't steal it.
And he put it under his coat and walked out.
And I would say what he looked like to the people who worked there was a guy with a giant
neon sign under his coat with a cord dragging behind him.
They called the cops, and he ran out of the restaurant
and then up, we were in Chicago, up the stairs to the L
and was waiting for his train
and then he would have a good escape.
And two cops walked up and like in the history
of being a cop, it was just clearly the easiest nab
of all time.
It was like, hey, you're under arrest.
And he's like, yeah.
It would be like if they put him in the lineup with like four other guys and they're like,
okay, so who was it?
And only one of them had a giant neon sign
with the cord hanging off stuffed under his jacket.
It's honestly just that I think you should leave Sketch.
He's dressed like a hot dog.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I've been framed.
I think it was that guy.
I think it was the other guy.
This guy asked me to hold this neon sign.
I've been telling you about a thing I know.
I'm only out of town for a podcast show.
All right, so Space Olympics, I don't have to tell you guys,
not historically the biggest hit off of Incredibad.
A lot of songs off of Incredibad are going to land with a great
deal more fanfare when they become shorts. Yet it's the first one you decide to do
for the season premiere of SNL.
Is it because Phelps is the host?
Yes.
With a bullet, yes.
One million percent.
Like there's no part of us that was like,
Space Olympics is one of our best ones
that we have to lead with.
We were like, oh shit, well.
Season premiere guys, we gotta bring it.
Now, the best thing about this,
there's so many great things.
He's barely in it.
Right, yeah.
So, it's not like you make it about him.
Right.
You almost have to, as a viewer, do the work of,
oh, I bet they did this because he was there.
Even people who don't know how TV works were probably like,
and then he didn't have time to do the pre-taping.
Yeah.
It excuses it.
Very much so.
It was an Olympic-themed episode,
and here's a song about Olympics.
Olympic-themed episodes are interesting
because you think, during the Summer Olympics,
that it will be the biggest,
it is the biggest story in the world,
and then by September when the show premieres,
it's kind of already not.
Well, that's an interesting thing for you to say
specifically with me around after doing our pole vaulter bit this year.
Well, still, we built in that it was late.
The whole premise was that it was too late.
Yeah, that was.
Well, the whole premise was about his giant, giant, giant, giant dog.
Yeah. Phelpsy came in hosted, and also I
remember sitting in that house that we talked about at length
during the Incredibles episodes.
You played Space Olympics for me, Andy,
and I laughed so hard that I was wheezing.
Now, it is a certain kind of song
that I love a great deal, which is it's
a lot about logistics and big singing about small things.
And again, I keep tipping, I wish it would rain.
Yeah.
It is the same thing, kind of.
Yeah.
Almost a waste of time.
Drained, weird singing.
I will say, Space Olympics was very much a solo joint.
Yeah, it was, it was.
I love that beat, it's another Drew Campbell beat,
and I immediately was like, I just love the melody of this
and the futurism of it.
I wrote, I think a good deal of it
before anyone even took a look at it,
Keev and Yoram-wise, and I think it shows.
The one thing, looking back on it,
that I really am shocked by,
and shocked that people don't have more of a problem with,
is there's like 30 to 40 seconds of vamping vocals
at the top, like not even words.
I was shocked by what I would consider almost dead air in the video.
And I'd attribute it to you were writing the song based on the music, everything you just
said, not thinking necessarily about a video at all.
So it was like, oh, wow, we're free of thinking about videos and thinking about the audience. We're finally alone in Encino getting to just make art
and make our music.
And it's going to be, you know, our funny music,
but it's for the album experience.
And you really feel that when you're watching the show
because boy, oh, boy, there's vamping.
There's even moments where you're not.
There's no vocal.
Correct.
Just music playing and shots of you kind of moving around.
Yep, just kind of grooving.
I love that you're bringing this up, Keeva.
Andy, now respond to that.
Was that how you felt about it?
That this was just like, fucking love this beat,
love this shit ride, I'm making art.
I mean, I know we talked about it at the time.
I'm sure I played it and Keeva was like,
seems like a lot of dead air at the top.
And I was like, I know!
And being like, I think that fact was like, seems like a lot of dead air at the top. And I was like, I know! And being like, I know, right?
I think that fact in like an anti-comedy way was funny to me.
I don't think it's something we didn't think about.
So not art, but a different kind of joke.
No, we knew. We were like,
what is going to be on screen during these long gap between jokes?
Yes.
It may have been though that the build just needed that build though.
You know, it just maybe needed that.
Can I just say one thing?
Because Andy brought up that he oftentimes was very late to get up.
Out of the three of us, he is the late riser usually.
But I feel like this one was one that I remember walking into our little shitty room
that we made all our music in.
And he was like, I was halfway through.
Like one of those like, oh. He got this idea and woke up at 7 a.m. That's how our... He's like, I was halfway through. Like one of those like, oh.
He got this idea and woke up at 7 AM.
That's how he's like, I got to get it down.
I got to lay down.
Maybe 10, but yeah.
Well, in the world of music,
I don't think this just applies to comedy music.
Being a late riser does not make you the least productive.
Oh no.
That's true.
I was on fucking fire during our making of this album.
I came up with so many song ideas
just sitting in there fucking around.
It could have been three in the morning too.
Maybe I walked in late after.
That's what I'm saying.
Doing something and being like,
oh shit, look this guy's on fire.
I was so geek that we finally were getting to make an album.
Yeah, it was a good test.
Some of the visuals that we get in the long opening vamp.
I mean, you do yell reach for the stars pretty early. Right, which is a hilarious joke.
We see you and there is a moment
where the audience laughs at your look.
You have white hair.
It's a very good wig.
Very good.
You're sashed, good outfit.
You're out by a safe field, right?
We're at the old men in black stomping grounds.
Yeah, so you're having fun on the set,
but like there's a laugh and then it's so much vamping
that by the time you actually start singing,
people have become completely used to you
and they don't think there's anything funny
about your look anymore.
No, they're just now in the world.
It's world building really.
Is it twice as funny in the last minute
when jokes are coming fast and that it had a slow burn
because you kind of, you don't give up on the sketch.
I wouldn't say that, but you kind of are you don't give up on the sketch. I wouldn't say that. No, no, no.
But you kind of are,
you're kind of lulled into something and then it ends
so strong in the last minute with all the twists and turns,
and rapid fire of what's canceled and all the logistics,
that it is, maybe there's some magic to the fact that it's
kind of spongy at the beginning, let's say.
I don't know.
It's pretty spongy.
It is a very inspirational song about the Space Olympics.
Andy yells out.
Skyline of red plateaus,
strange air and vegetation.
You're a winner.
Welcome to the Space Olympics.
He yells out you're a winner before he said
that it's a song about the Space Olympics.
So you're just trying to understand what,
you'd be like, okay, weird space guy.
Yeah, skyline of red plateaus. That's a very Andy line.
And then he's just like, you're a winner.
And you're like, okay.
Then he goes, welcome to the Space Olympics.
He's got one of those really nice Andy lines.
Your name echoes in the halls of the universe.
Feels like it's a couple syllables too long, but you make it work.
I love that.
Oh yeah, had to.
I mean, if it's so bad, Keef, how come it's
Phil Lord and Chris Miller and Seth Meyers' favorite digital short?
I'm not even saying it's bad. I'm saying maybe there's a magic to it.
You're just saying you hate it.
And I should say, I laughed when I heard it. I liked it less when I saw it.
Exactly. I made it slightly uncomfortable in moments where I'm like,
we're not fully in control necessarily.
What Seth just said, I think is it,
because when you are just listening on an album experience,
you can just vibe out on the cool music and on where's this going.
There's something about having to stare you in the eyes while you're waiting for
a tap and that is more uncomfortable.
Well, I think that that's a testament to like in watching it, I'm like,
oh, I forgot how many stupid like fire and like shocking of like
what lightning comes out of his fingertips.
And you're just like, because nothing's happening.
We just like put a bunch of extra shit in there.
Be like, maybe this is entertaining.
I was impressed with how many extra visual things you added.
Like the shot that is just emoting and performing that you made into a shot
of him blocking tons of missiles that have nothing to do with the story.
I feel like I did a lot of that stuff. Yeah, that might be. Oh, you did. All right of him blocking tons of missiles that have nothing to do with the story.
I feel like I did a lot of that stuff.
Yeah, that might be.
Oh, you did.
All right.
Well, then I love that.
Yeah, I did a lot of that.
Yeah.
I would say first verse establishes there's a space Olympics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that it's the year 3022.
Second verse is the rules of the space Olympics and it is immediately they are not grand at
all. Every single galactic athlete needs a coded ID badge.
Drug tests are mandatory.
Carowind!
The athlete's village hisongs are gone.
You all get a Junior Suite.
We don't cover incidentals.
So keep your ass out of the mini bar.
I liked the cutaways to the Junior Suite so much I was really surprised we didn't get
one of the mini bar because I thought that would be good.
That's very, very normal looking Junior Suite.
I believe one shot of Phelps is you screaming in his ear it's the motherfucking space Olympics.
Yep, that sounds right.
One shot.
One shot.
Then third verse is now at first it was just kind of bad. Now stuff's going wrong. ["Yep-A-Ree Nation"]
That's my favorite line.
Yeah.
I just like the details of that.
Well, then they start canceling events.
I mean, there's a premise there.
I think he would like it if it was twice as fast.
Yeah.
I don't dislike it.
It's just a little middling to me.
I think that that gives it anarchy and that's why maybe Phil and Chris, maybe what's appealing
to them about it is that there's a sense of anarchy to it, I think.
I'm sorry.
This is Phil and Chris's favorite.
Why don't you just admit that you hate it and that you hate me?
Hold on.
Is that true? For real? Just admit to me finally that you hate me and you hate the song. Just admit both. All I know
is Phil and Chris better be getting a phone call about a voice note. This is even more shocking
than the call for Punch Me in the Jeans. So they're running out of oxygen. All the oxygen has run out, and someone who will not remain Accidentally himself disrupts
As you file to your escape pods, I'll distract the alien hoards
And as I stare dead in the face, I know my sins will take me to hell
Do you think he's talking about his sins in relation to what he did by creating Olympics in space
or other sins that have been not named in the song.
I was reading it that what he has done to sort of throw
the space Olympics into chaos, those were his sins.
And hitting the self-destruct.
Yeah. And also, he had made the accounting errors.
Right.
And you did the most Andy face of like,
all of a sudden you were definitely Andy and not that dude.
Yeah. Maybe messed up the books.
Got it.
The last couplet, though, is shocking and resonates more than anything.
Do you remember the end of it?
It's the craziest left turn.
Oh, you mean that it goes into a Justin Timberlake song?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You do it for the love, my love.
And there ain't no woman that can take yours by my love. And then he realized as he was writing it,
I remember just being like,
you know what this melody sounds a lot like?
Just to timidly.
Yeah.
All of a sudden that this has been a love song to someone.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess.
Space Olympics song about just all about logistics of Space Olympics,
but it turned out that you had written it to a woman and you wanted to let them know that no one could take it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And luckily we knew Justin and it wasn't a problem to say that.
I mean, we never cleared it or asked.
We just did it.
Oh, fuck, we're gonna get fucked if he listens to this.
Very funny to me.
He's not gonna listen to this.
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Yeah, but you showed up refreshed.
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I'd like to remembering that we didn't build a single set,
that we made an entire short set in outer space
and didn't do anything.
We did build one set.
Which one?
The very end spaceship is a flat in front of a green screen.
Ah, let me pull that in.
Really?
Wow, we had some money.
With the aliens and everything, Keith.
Oh, oh, oh.
Yeah.
All right, take it back.
We built one set.
But like all the stuff of like everyone wandering around through the catacombs of the spaceship with all the wires,
that's just the floor of 30 Rock that we did nothing to.
It was just under construction.
It was just a construction.
That's all just like the ethernet and stuff of them trying to figure out how to build a new floor at 30 Rock.
It was perfect for this guy's version of the Space Olympics. Like it's like everything's not good.
Yeah, it looks like everything's not good.
Yeah, it's like a falling apart spaceship.
And then all the other things, yes,
is just in the Bronx at that place
where they did the World's Fair.
And then we just, did we put blue screen behind Andy
when he's standing in the ones where it is stuff?
Or did we just put sky behind him and roto out the sky?
I bet we did blue screen there, right?
Just like knocked it all out.
I mean, it doesn't look like we spent a shitload of time.
The thing that's interesting about it to me is,
and I remember thinking of this at the time,
is some of the shots to me as a sci-fi person
look fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Like the one of me that I'm on like some metal planet thing
and there's like a really legit stock footage spaceship
above me.
Yeah.
You do it for like two seconds twice.
But the comping on it to me looks totally good and legit
for what we were doing.
Right, but it's cause there's a straight line.
I'm looking at that shot right now.
Exactly.
And it's that thing just exists, that giant old fountain.
You're in a fountain.
Yes.
And it's empty.
And so there was a straight line on the edge of the fountain.
So we just shot it locked off
and then we could just draw a line at the top of the fountain. And so it's just a split screen between that stock shot
and you. Yeah, it was cool. Works. And I thought all the World's Fair stuff looked really cool too.
That's true. The World's Fair stuff just looks cool because that's just real shots with that
stuff in the background. It's cool. Is that just Rosie? Were we just shooting with Rosie on that
one by that point? Yeah. Yeah. We had not graduated to outside of SNL people really.
Anyway, I thought everyone did a great job.
I was surprised when there were people, I didn't think it sucked. I think it's good.
But I was surprised when some people were like, it was also two other writers, not from SNL,
Pete Huyck and Alex Gregory. But I remember Pete Huyck being like,
if that's what your realm's like, sign me up. Like as if it was dick in a box or I'm on a boat
or something. So there is a certain type of person that, again,
I think it's the anarchy of it.
And this may be the slow burn into all the jokes at the end.
Yeah.
I do not just, like, disagree with you, Andy,
but I do want to, like, have everyone hear that Andy said,
I thought some of it looked really great.
And then have people go watch it.
Just go watch Space Olympics.
And then see if you thought it looked really great.
Well, some of it looks really bad.
I mean, the completion of the thought is,
and then some of the shots look very, very clearly
like lo-fi shitty green screen and takes you out of it.
If it all looked incredible,
maybe that would be a joke unto itself
that we spent all of that time and energy
on making it look like a real sci-fi movie,
and the song is so fucking meandering.
Yeah, maybe. But also, the homemade feeling,
Tim and Eric-y kind of vibe is not bad for it either.
No, I think it protects it.
So we will say it's not criterion,
but it's best of sci-fi Olympics.
Oh. That's a category.
We've got Kim's video, Sci-fi Olympics.
On the YouTube clip, there's a lot of interesting ones.
Sam Jones something something says,
this is top five.
The lack of an audience reaction actually makes it better
because they are in shock.
I remember watching live with my mouth agape,
enjoying every single second.
It's just absolute perfection.
Thank you, Lonely Island.
Oh my God.
Thank you, Sam Jones.
I think Andy did okay considering the fact
he was one man trying to host
an Intergalactic sporting event.
That's got 1,800 likes.
I mean, I tend to agree.
There's another one from five years ago.
I love that they just kind of let Andy Samberg
do whatever he wanted and then aired it.
So there is a feeling, that's the anarchy I'm getting at.
They can tell, they know there's no oversight.
It is so funny to think of you having to go to
Lauren's office and be like, it's the space Olympics.
Approved.
That's what I mean, like the fact that you can sense
you're getting something that's been unfiltered,
I think is part of what makes it good. I agree with that. Sure, I mean, Like, the fact that you can sense you're getting something that's been unfiltered, I think is part of what makes it good.
Yeah. I agree with that.
Sure. I mean, it's also hilarious. This was the first one where we were like,
we had the whole summer to make stuff and polish it and make sure it was really good.
Not like those things we had to do on the fly, like Lazy Sunday and Duganibox.
And this was the first one.
Yeah.
Everyone must have been like,
Huh. Hey, you know that long runway we were building for those guys?
Turns out it maybe is a curse.
All right, here's another.
These are all positive ones that have a little bit of negativity built in,
but I think it's getting at what I'm getting at.
This is from Diana Martins, 31.
Literally my favorite digital short ever.
Instinct classic.
I can't wait till they cover this one on the podcast.
I love how it basically says nothing for a whole minute,
then jumps right in and you're expected to be on board.
That's what they love.
Could be just said as an insult.
But that is actually exactly what I'm saying,
that the slow burn and then twist of it,
I think, is satisfying on some level.
What it's telling me also is that we had people's trust.
You know what I mean?
And I think somewhere it's earned and intentional,
like I was saying before, like, we're like,
on this one, we're just gonna let that bitch breathe.
You know what I mean?
Nobody would accuse it of being mailed in or lazy.
No, no, there's clear effort there.
I'll say this, hearing these comments,
I definitely just love humans.
I do think the people who like this sketch are maybe good people that I like.
Here's one from Ashley here. It says,
Masterpiece. Either it's criterion collection or they're wrong.
Oh wow.
Fuck yeah. Another winner.
I do want to jump ahead, not to race away from Space Olympics, but this was kind of a perfect
Andy episode because we had all of your skills on display in the short and then we had live Andy in Update.
Andy do you remember who you were in Update?
I'm gonna maybe be right because I'm remembering that the host was Phelps.
Is it Mark Spitz?
It was not Mark Spitz.
Oh, you have Alzheimer's.
You are so forgetful.
Yes. Oh my gosh.
I won't even say a full word and you'll get it.
Okay.
Ack.
Oh, Cathy.
Cathy.
Was that my first Cathy?
It maybe is.
I mean, the fact that you played Cathy,
it is crazier than the fact that you wrote a song
about the space Olympics, right?
I'm gonna have to explain who Cathy even is.
Was Cathy in the news?
Here was the setup to Cathy.
Cathy was a comic strip character.
Probably still, they're probably still making Cathy's.
I don't know.
Probably, it's like Garfield.
Cathy was just a woman of the world who was just dealing with the many pressures of being a working woman.
Is that?
Yeah, she had a lot of stuff in her purse.
Yeah.
Yeah, she had a lot of dating problems.
Yeah, that's just, you know, she was a modern woman.
Here's the setup to answer your question,
Keev, was Cathy in the news? Well, summer's just, you know, she was a modern woman. Here's the setup to answer your question, Keev, was Kathy in the news?
Well, summer's officially over,
and as kids return to school,
so must vacationing adults return to work.
Here to talk about back-to-work blues
is funny section favorite Kathy
from the comic strip Kathy.
There have been thinner intros.
There have been thinner intros.
Probably, and a lot of those thin intros ended with you rolling out in a different country.
Well, when allowed.
Do we want to get into it?
Here's a few Cathy's.
So I take it you're not excited then?
Being at work is like being asleep, Seth.
Wake me up when I'm a size 5!
Aah!
I really appreciate how you could find my voice
in your features, Andy.
Here was my reaction to in your features, Andy.
Here was my reaction to that.
Uh, okay.
That's your voice as written by Andy?
I was always trying to keep in mind.
I was trying to give you something good to do, you know?
Yeah.
You want to know the best way to hold onto a man?
A leash.
My mom drives me crazy.
I'm not doing them justice by reading it flatly, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A leash.
My mom drives me crazy!
It's like a tag.
There's timing, shockingly.
Now I think it might not be the maiden voyage
based on my reaction to this line.
Finding a good man is like trying to find something
in my purse.
Impossible chocolate eggs!
Yeah.
I was waiting for chocolate.
That makes me think I've interacted with Kathy before. Yeah, exactly. We all know Kathy. Yeah. Yeah. I was waiting for childbirth. That makes me think I've interacted with Kathy before.
Yeah, exactly.
We all know Kathy.
Yeah.
Andy, did the woman who created Kathy at some point write you a nice little note?
I feel like I remember that.
Yes.
I still have it up on my wall in my home because it was very meaningful to me.
She sent me a framed original three cell Kathy strip where Cathy and Irving are talking about watching me playing
Cathy on SNL and it's really sweet and it meant a lot to me.
And I sent her flowers back and I hope she got them because she didn't have to do that.
It's really lovely.
It was not judgmental of Cathy.
It was more a celebratory character for you to play.
Yes, the joke was much more that I was doing, Kathy, not anything about Kathy.
I grew up and still, but I just love the funny pages.
It just makes me so happy.
I love just seeing a whole thing of just a bunch
of little cartoons and getting to read them.
It just is a wonderful thing.
I mean, I feel the same way. It was a big deal.
Yeah.
It's one of actually the sadder parts of print media dying.
Yeah.
Is it dying?
Oh, boy.
His limitless pill wore off.
I get the New York Times.
I actually get it delivered to my house.
So to me, in this household, it isn't dying.
Oh, hey, I have another podcast.
You know, Josh and I interviewed Bill Gates.
Whoa.
And somehow, Wordle came up.
And then I said, do you do the Spelling Bee?
And he said, yeah, I do the Spelling Bee.
And I said, do you stop at Genius?
And he's like, no, I go to Queen Bee.
And I thought there was, it made me laugh so hard
that the two people I know who go to Queen Bee
are Sandberg and Bill Gates.
Are you stopping the story and saying you didn't tell him
that I also get Queen Bee?
I didn't tell him.
Mostly because I'm real confident,
I do not take this the wrong way.
I wasn't getting the sort of cultural literacy from him
that he would have any idea who you were.
He wasn't gonna know who you were talking about.
Yeah.
Maybe not worth spending his time.
So what? So you got him on because what, he's seen your show?
He's been on my show.
So that's how he knows who you are but not me?
Well, if you want to have him on your show.
A little bit of trivia on the woman who created Cathy,
her first name, Cathy.
Look at that.
Irving, the husband was later
played by Timberlake on the show with you.
That's right.
And I have that fresh in my brain because they showed a picture of it during the 50
years in music, Questlove and Oz doc that we watched.
That's right.
And Jessica Beale came out as Jessica Rabbit.
Yeah.
But now that you've breached the subject, Keev, has everyone on this watched the Questlove
doc?
I have not.
I've watched the opening and I have not watched the full doc.
And the opening is one of the best things I've ever seen.
Yeah, that's very true.
Well, we'll talk about it again when you've seen it then, Seth.
Okay.
It's so fun.
But the doc is very, very good for anybody at home that has not watched.
It's on Peacock and it's Questlove and Oz Rodriguez,
who is a director at SNL who did a bunch of shorts after we left.
It's like a two and a half hour music documentary
about the 50 years of music at SNL.
And it's truly just a great documentary in general.
I've heard great things about all the SNL docs
that they've done in Peacock.
There's one on auditioning in the writer's room,
but that is the one that I think has left people
absolutely in awe.
Yeah, those other ones are really good,
but they feel a little more like for the super SNL fan,
which anybody listening to this probably is, so I would watch all those.
But the music one feels almost bigger than the show.
It feels like it's putting some other context on everything in a really cool way.
And we have a nice little section in it.
I'm very excited to watch it.
And we'll talk about it once I watch it.
I probably did not do my homework, but once I watch it, we will talk about it.
A few quick memories about the Phillips show. There was definitely a sketch, do you remember?
He started a sketch and he was just lovely.
And he was, you know, obviously a legendary athlete,
fantastic representative of this country.
He started a sketch fully coughing.
Do you remember that, Andy?
That I didn't remember.
The Seth's Corner one I was there for,
I was standing right there.
He's known for enjoying marijuana publicly.
This was before any of us knew that about him.
True.
But people who are known for marijuana
sometimes enter rooms coughing.
Yeah, it wasn't even that.
It was more, I think, that you just remember
land is his second best surface.
He is aquatic.
There's just no way around it.
Yeah.
Lovely, by the way.
Super nice.
Yes.
Down to clown. It is so funny the way he's built. You just
realize, oh, you could swim every day and still be a
thousand yards behind this guy because he's just like. Yeah,
he was born to win gold medals in swimming events at the
Olympics. Yes. And worked hard. Support comes from Rince.
What's up, Keef? What's going on? You know, you were just telling me before we started recording,
you can do everything on your phone these days.
Yeah, oh my god, these things are amazing. Have you used the phone yet?
I just got the phone and, you know, book a vacation, buy and trade stocks.
But did you know, thanks to Rince, Keev, you can also make your dirty laundry disappear
and then reappear, Keev, like magic. That's key. I got scared.
I got scared for a second.
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I remember back in my New York days,
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It's nice because I know I can maybe tell your wife,
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Fold it up.
Hey, I have bad news, Keefe, though.
They don't do dry cleaning.
OK. No, that was a bit. I was pulling, Keith, though. They don't do dry cleaning. Okay.
No, that was a bit.
I was pulling the rug out for money.
They do do dry cleaning.
Oh my gosh.
I was just being polite.
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What are we spying?
Yeah, I was gutted.
This one is a roller coaster.
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You want to go to Seth's Corner real quick?
Seth's Corner, you're all invited.
Seth's Corner, it's happening right now.
Take it away Seth.
Yeah, it was the cold open.
It was the Tina Fey as Palin,
Amy Poehler as Haley Clinton, cold open.
Oh, wow. Yeah. All-time classic.
That's an all-time classic.
Tonight, we are crossing party lines
to address the now very ugly role
that sexism is playing in the campaign.
An issue which I am frankly surprised to hear
people suddenly care about.
You know, Hillary and I don't agree on everything.
Anything.
I believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any foreign policy.
And I can see Russia from my house.
I think there's from my house.
I think there's maybe five times.
You maybe had more than I did,
but I think five times where I had something in 10 plus years where I was so confident.
By the way, this confidence was based more on Tina and Amy than anything I put on the page.
I was so confident it was going to crush that I actually watched it on the floor,
as opposed to behind a bleacher through webbed fingers.
Dude, there was no question it was about to be a moment.
And the writing was so funny,
and everyone in the country was watching.
Everybody wanted it.
Everyone wanted it.
It was a supercharged moment when the show met the moment.
And when that happens, that's when SNL is the most powerful.
Was this the first Palin?
It was the first Palin.
So we had had all summer.
Yeah, a couple of months.
Where there had been like primaries and stuff and America and the world had gotten to know Palin
and there was all the talk of like, oh, is this going to be Tina?
Yes.
Who's going to play her? She clearly had the glasses and the brown hair. It seemed like
it was going to happen. And this is the payoff moment where everybody's tuning in to see what the take is going to be.
And this is a start of a run for you, Seth.
Yes.
Because you were the one in charge of those and this was a huge thing for the show.
It was incredibly helpful obviously to have somebody like Tina involved
who brought a lot of both performing slash writing skills.
People forget she was not on the cast at the time.
She would come back to do these while she was also doing 30 Rock.
One could argue that her sort of de facto joining the cast
for a couple of months really lends
to end golden era status.
Yeah, agree.
But yeah, it was thrilling because we had to,
we'll keep talking about them as they go,
but it was the, maybe the most I felt,
like you guys felt, which is that, oh, now we got to do one better than that one.
Right.
Yeah, pressure was on after that.
Yeah, you can tell, because we did Space Olympics.
Right.
We needed to top ourselves.
Seth, this might not be our story to tell,
but I believe you're aware of it too.
That summer, after Palin joined the race
and got added to the ticket, Lauren
would always tell the story that for like a week,
everywhere he went, people kept saying to him, it's a gift. Yeah that for like a week, everywhere he went,
people kept saying to him, it's a gift.
It's a gift, Mr. Michael's like his doorman.
And people like, everywhere he went, all over town,
they were like, she's perfect.
She looks exactly like her, it's a gift.
And he took that with him and was like, all right,
like Tina, you kind of, it seems like the universe
is just saying this is supposed to happen.
Yeah, if my doorman needs to just do this.
The way Lorne tells it is both Robert De Niro
and his doorman told him on the same day.
That's better, yeah.
That's right.
And it's just at that point.
That's probably why I was doing that voice.
Yeah, you were.
My spot on De Niro.
And, oh, I will say there's another thing that happens.
I don't quite understand which part of this it is
that makes Lorne do this, but people were, again,
frothing for it before it even started,
which is a nice way to start with a cold open, right?
And then it started crushing,
and I remember that was one of those times
where Lorne, under the bleacher, said,
get Keith, because he was upset
where the flags were in the sketch.
And again, it's so rare where you have written something
and you're standing next to Lorne, and it's just destroying. And in your head, it's so rare where you have written something and you're standing next
to Lauren and it's just destroying. And in your head, it's the day he turns and just gives you a
firm handshake and said, I knew you could do it. And instead he's like, the flags.
I know that exact thing.
Yeah. It's such a funny move because the amount you want to say, I'm positive we can move them.
Between dress and air, I'm positive we can move the flag.
You're also desperate to not have him miss a joke.
A hundred percent.
You're down there like, you're talking about the flags.
He's doing, they're doing the setup for the next joke.
You're going to miss that a joke.
If you said that though, to Lauren,
if you said you could have missed the joke,
and this is again, one of his,
I think part of it is,
I'm not gonna let people get too low,
I'm not gonna let people get too high.
And if you said, you just missed a joke,
he would say, I know that there's good jokes.
You know, he'd make you feel silly for being needy.
Almost like, I know I pay you to write good jokes
and I know you can do it.
And it's in the show because of the jokes.
Now it needs to be the right version of the sketch.
Yeah, you have to play it real cool.
He's good at what he does.
But Seth, this is so, I mean, I love talking about all this,
but I wasn't even thinking this was gonna be Seth's corner.
I thought it was gonna be the thing you had it dressed
that got cut.
Was that Justice League?
Yes.
Tell me about it. I can't really remember it.
Oh my God, you have such a bad memory.
Yoram's ripped all of us today.
All three of you guys are a fucking mess.
Seth wrote a Justice League sketch with Phelps as Aquaman.
I was in it. I don't remember who I was.
I might not have been in it though, Yoram.
You were in it.
Great. Lockbox. That's an SNL reference.
And at dress, and by the way, this is not the only reason it got cut, Michael Phelps, who is not an actor, in the middle of a line,
just couldn't get his line.
Just was like, that's right, that's...
Blblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl as much, And then started the line over and we were all just like, oh no, we're not supposed to do that.
I mean, it didn't matter as much,
especially because it was dress.
But he went...
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b.
They ought to shake that out.
We're like, we're doing the show.
All I will say is now, again,
sometimes it takes a full, like, 17 years.
I definitely should have been in a Just League sketch
where every time Aquaman talked,
he was super bad at talking.
He was, like, quiet and, like, bubbles in his mouth.
And it was just a lot of Superman being like,
look, guys, he's not up here a lot.
He shouldn't be up here.
I'm not like, blah, blah, blah.
You know?
It's like, air tastes weird, right, guys?
Just chugging waters.
Well, anyhow, it was wonderful. That sketch didn't, like, great. Just chugging waters.
Well, anyhow, it was wonderful.
That sketch didn't play great.
That sketch is a Kenwood-Myers joint.
Yeah, Kenwood-Myers.
Who did Andy play in it?
Bill, as Superman, presides over a meeting
of the Justice League.
So I've got some bad news, gang.
We all know that the economy hasn't been so hot lately
and not to bore you with the details,
but it looks like we're going to have to let one of you go.
That's the premise.
Andy, you have the next line, but it doesn't say who you are.
Your next line is it's me, right?
Oh, no flash.
You're the fastest man on earth.
You're essential to the team.
Then Will says, great.
I'll go clean out my locker.
No Hawkman.
You're a Hawk and a man.
That's like two for the price of one.
Then Will, who amongst the justice league is less than essential? No, Hawkman, you're a Hawk and a man. That's like two for the price of one.
Then, who amongst the Justice League is less than essential?
Michael enters as Aquaman.
He's wearing an open Hawaiian shirt over his costume.
He's carrying a couple of fishing poles.
Wow, what's up?
Are we having a meeting?
It's full on surf meeting.
It is full on surfing.
We went back to the bell.
Hey, what's up?
What are we talking about?
Oh my gosh.
Will you guys do something for me?
Yeah.
Go to dress.
It's Don's script, Don Roy King, the director.
And if you page down after all the things,
there's a blank piece after the time codes of the cold open.
And clearly someone has done a drawing of where Tina and Amy are.
And the purpose of the drawing is where the flag should be.
Wait, what page?
Page 10. Oh, yeah.
Tina, Amy, four flags.
It's a remedial drawing of four flags.
Oh, I've never heard of it.
It's like a reminder, and it's got the camera.
It's like, yeah, it's gonna be pointed at the podium,
and then there's gonna be flags behind it.
We're gonna put this in the show notes just so you can see.
This is while that famous sketch was crushing,
somebody had to make this tiny drawing.
So, what about the details, you guys? There's a really funny game show called Quiz Bowl So you can see this is while that famous sketch was crushing, somebody had to make this tiny drawing.
So what about the details, you guys?
There's a really funny game show called Quiz Bowl that Lutz, Jost, and Rich wrote, Simon.
It was like a public school kid, three kids, Casey Wilson, Bobby Moynihan, who are new to
the cast, Keena Thompson, and then on the other side, it was Forte, Poehler, and Michael
Phelps, and they were homeschooled,
and they were just some weird homeschooled weirdos.
And Wig was their mom, and she kept wandering out
to complain about answers that she thought
were actually right.
That's funny.
10 points.
What substance in human blood transports oxygen
from the lungs to the rest of the body?
Jasper, family.
Tiny gremlins?
Wow.
No. Yes Yes it is. Yes they are. Tiny gremlins. There's tiny gremlins in our bodies. I've seen them in my microscope.
Okay Mrs. Jasper we've asked you to stay with the other parents and please not
interfere with the game. Also Sudeikis is the host and he's getting very
frustrated that the Richmond High kids aren't buzzing in.
What triggered the World War I?
Yes, Jasper.
Boys and girls swimming together?
Yes.
Wrong, no, it was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
Richmond, you guys can jump in any time here,
all right, if you don't mind.
All right, here we go.
Here, guys.
What ingredient causes bread to rise?
Swear words.
What's that? Swear words. No. No, you we go. Here, guys. What ingredient causes bread to rise? Swear words. What's that?
Swear words.
No.
No, you're wrong. No, it's yeast. Richmond, guys, come on. Yeast doesn't ring a bell?
Alright, no.
Seth.
Yes?
As head writer, though, you would sometimes get those nice moments with Lauren, right?
Definitely.
I feel like there's so many people whose stories are just never getting that nice moment, and
I'll say for me just personally,
for as hard as the show is, and as much as sometimes
you are mad at it and mad at the bosses and stuff,
Lorne did often after a short be like,
it played, nice work.
Yes.
You know, like he actually would give me nice handshake
or at the after party be like, good one tonight.
Yep.
Whatever sort of iciness was under the bleachers
at the party, I think that was all in the
past.
Yes.
He had a real good job vibe at the party.
Yep, for sure.
And I think there might be writers, maybe less so now, but people who didn't bother
going over to him at the after party because you just don't want to bother him and he's
the boss.
And they never got that side of it.
So they just felt the no-nonsense time is money.
It's between dress and air. There's no time for niceties. We just got to get-nonsense time is money. You know, it's between dress and air.
There's no time for niceties.
We just got to get it done side of the bosses.
Yes.
As opposed to ever getting the like,
and now I've had a glass of wine and the pressure's off
and hey, nice piece tonight.
You know what?
It could have been a little better like this,
but I liked it.
You know, just like the nice version of it.
And I think we were all lucky that we got to the level
or whatever at the show or comfortableness to...
Right. I don't blame any young writer
who makes the choice not to go over, but...
Of course.
...if you did sort of push through that,
that was the most encouraging and warmest version, for sure.
Something I learned over time and that I've learned even more,
even Justin going back this year, this past season,
is, like, the notion that he maybe has checked out
or doesn't care is insanity. Oh, yeah. He cares so much. in going back this year, this past season, is, like, the notion that he maybe has checked out
or doesn't care is insanity.
He cares so much. He's so invested.
He knows all the jokes in the sketches.
He wants them all to work.
He wants everyone to crush it.
Like, he is the manager of the sports team,
and he wants everyone to hit a home run,
and he's thinking about it all the time.
He wants the flags in the right place, too.
Yeah. Seriously. Fucking details. Honestly. By the way, the flags in the right places is because he's thinking about it all the time. He wants the flags in the right place too. Yeah.
Seriously.
Fucking details.
Honestly.
By the way, the flags in the right places is because he does care about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Down to that detail.
Yeah.
No, a lot of people will always be like, it's crazy how Lauren always has a note on a thing
that's really working.
And it took me a while to be like, it's because he knows it's good and so he wants it to be
perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he knows it's going to be on TV.
He's like, that's in, so let's get it right.
Right, exactly.
The last time I saw him,
I remember one of the first things he said
was some version of how funny was this cast member
in that sketch.
And it had been the last show that it aired.
And I thought, oh, that's really nice.
Yeah, he still cares, man.
And then I felt like I maybe played it wrong
because I was like, what was when I was funny?
Was that what you did?
Yeah.
I was like, they're not here right now, I am.
What was I funny in?
Dad.
The waiter was there.
And so the waiters heard it.
Yeah, the waiter was like, Jesus Christ.
Because I think it happens a lot.
This conversation again.
It used to be funny once a week.
Try four nights a week.
Do you watch my show every night? It's funny!
Last night, checked you were a producer.
Your name's on it.
I had flags all over the place.
You didn't have any notes.
I put a flag everywhere.
That's what I should, you know what?
Cause he went, a Lorne note, it was always like,
it looks like the flag's coming out of their head.
Which, you know, I think I don't have to tell everybody here
what it looks like. There's a flag behind somebody, it looks like it's coming out of their head. I should start doing my monologue with a flag coming out of their head, which, you know, I think I don't have to tell everybody here what it looks like. There's a flag behind somebody,
it looks like it's coming out of their head.
I should start doing my monologue
with a flag coming out of my head,
and that'll be the way to know if he's watching.
Just to know if he loves you.
See if he's watching, yeah.
This walks in mid-monologue,
it's like, very funny, get the fucking flag out of there.
We should get him on this pod
just to see if he says I love you at the end to us.
He will.
All right, I love you guys.
All right, so here's what's coming up.
Hay is coming up, Extreme Challenge is coming up,
Ross Trent is coming up, and everyone's a critic is coming up.
Did you say Jam the Vote?
I didn't.
Jam the Vote was an election special on a Thursday.
Yeah, but that should count.
Yeah, we should do Jam the Vote.
Yeah, we should talk about the Thursday things,
because that was a big thing for you, Seth.
Yeah.
Made everything easier to do a Thursday show as well as a Saturday show.
And it was a little bit unprecedented in my mind, even though maybe they'd say, oh, we
did an 80s or something.
Well, this was the gauntlet.
We had t-shirts printed up that said the gauntlet because we did 10 in a row, right?
Ten shows in eight weeks.
Yes.
Yeah, because there were multiple shows on some of those weeks.
Doing a Thursday show in the middle of a show week is so crazy.
Yeah.
You guys, can I just say something before we end?
I was just texting with Wig and she sent me a voice note.
I haven't heard this, so I'm just gonna play this for you guys.
Oh, great. That's exciting.
I thought of a new theme for you guys.
The Lonely Island's self-mise podcast.
Is that good?
That's beautiful.
That's great.
I also like that she sounds like she's at a park.
Right?
Yeah, I do.
She was at a park and then had to get it on tape
before she forgot it.
Yeah.
Right.
Hey, also, I will have seen you guys all in person
because this is airing after the 50th
and obviously we're going to talk about the 50th.
Oh wow.
But it hasn't happened yet.
If you're listening to this, the 50th has happened, but we don't know how it went.
I bet it was great.
I think so.
Alright.
I can't wait to see you guys there, which is in our future and our listeners past.
And also I love you.
Love you.
Love you.
Bye guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.