The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - The 2025 Criterion Episode

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

This week on The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast we’re taking a look back at all the shorts we discussed in 2025 and deciding if they belong in the “Criterion” Lonely Island box set. We’re also including a category for Kim’s Video. To decide this for us, we’ve got Seth and special guests Questlove (The Roots and Tonight Show band leader) and Lin-Manuel Miranda (from a very good musical called Hamilton). Let us know if you think they got it right! Watch all the shorts (available on YouTube) that we talked about in 2025 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR9ZV6ngzoSpbuzBAuKGjwP96iJDbK2Ow Send us an email: [e-mail] Send us a voice note: https://www.speakpipe.com/thelonelyisland Send us stuff: P.O. Box 4024 New York, NY 10185 Photos and everything else can be found by following us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod Support our sponsors: Grow Therapy Grown Therapy sessions average about $21 with insurance and some pay as little as $0, depending on their plan. Visit https://growtherapy.com/ISLAND today to get started. Homechef Home Chef is offering my listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to https://homechef.com/ISLAND AG1 Go to https://DRINKAG1.com/ISLAND to get their best offer… For a limited time only, get a FREE AG1 duffel bag and FREE AG1 Welcome Kit with your first subscription order! Only while supplies last. Rocket Money Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at https://RocketMoney.com/island Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's a lonely island and Seth Myers' Criterion Collection. Podcast episode. Hey, everybody, this is very exciting. This is our second criterion collection episode. And while we were graced with the presence of Mike Scher and Jake Tapper last time out, we have recruited two new judges this time. Please welcome to the pod for the first time, Questlove and Lynn Manuel Miranda. Hello?

Bye, baby, baby, bye, hi guys. Until you guys talked, nobody was going to believe you were actually here. I like that you left a dramatic gap before actually revealing yourselves. We just wanted you, we wanted you to, you know, to feel alone for a second. Now, did you, you guys were both kind enough to reach out and offer to do this, but did you actually think it would ever come to pass and we would take you up on it? No, I always, I'm such a geek for the guys that. I've learned early, if I show too much geek, then people will run away.

Oh, I see. But every, yeah, every day I listen in the car wondering, like, damn, I could offer commentary on, you know, this is my most listen to podcast according to my algorithms. Oh, I'm very happy to hear it. Hard same, hard same. Quaid Army over here. Right. Just kill. I knew I'd be free.

I didn't think Quest would be free because he is the only person. person I know busier than me. I'll tell you a story, Seth. It was like two days before Hamilton premiered, and I'd gotten a word from our producers that the roots were going to play at our opening night party. And Quest came to the show, like, just to see the show.

And I was like, oh, man, so excited for Sunday. And he was like, what's Sunday? And I was like, oh, my God, was I wrong? Did they give me the wrong information? Is it the roots without Quest somehow? I was like, the party? Are you playing the party? And he was like, oh, Lynn, let me show you my schedule.

And he pulled up this color-coded schedule that was, like, hour by hour where he was, DJ, making a movie, Jimmy Fallantime. 24 hours at a time. It's, yeah. So you just can't look that far ahead. He just, like, wasn't up to Sunday yet. Yeah. And I was like, what must it be like? And now I'm on the other side of Hamilton.

I know what it's like. If I have to pack or anything, then someone will warn me, like, four days ahead. You should pack because something's going to happen on Monday. Yeah. which means there's a yellow line next to Seth Myers and Lonely Island podcast in that schedule right now, and we are in it. Oh, no. I, I, I, you know what I should have been doing today, Lynn? What? This is how committed I am to Quaid Army. I should be locking film today.

I kind of told a white lie. Like, oh, guys, I'll be in at six. I have a dentist appointment, so I don't, I don't think anybody at radical listens to you. Oh, yeah, you didn't have to throw the burnout. I mean, I can admit I lied on this podcast. John Cayman is not Quaid Army. Those deweaves aren't Quaid Army, man. This is a fan. I do want to just, like, before we get started, obviously you guys have some experience with Estenal Quest.

You performed with Two to the May Tals? Yeah, I've been on the show in every configuration, except for the one that I really want to be on, which is music guest. I think we can hopefully make that happen one day. You know, I don't have a vote, but I feel like it should happen. It'll happen.

You were, of course, you made the ladies and gentlemen the incredible documentary about S&L music, which I highly recommend. The eight-minute intro, the greatest... Truly the greatest first-a-minute is montage in the history of documentary film. Yeah. I had to make my mark. It's as good as, like, the first eight minutes is like golden eye.

You know what it means? It's just like a crazy non-stop. It's the saving private Ryan of Saturday Night Live docks. My inspiration for it was actually up. Ah. Because really up is the first 17 minutes. Yeah, they are. And then the movie's over after, you know.

Yeah. You never hear anybody be like, I love the middle of up. I forgive the middle of up. No, of course. It's a classic, but it is. The balloons do take the house away. Right, exactly. And then, of course, you were in a tutor, the digital short that wasn't.

I made a bit that did not make it to air. And when you see some of the ones that did, it's really, it's unbelievable that you were in one that didn't. I get it. You know, I, you know, unfortunately. I chose something that I don't think is either Definitely not criterion and definitely not Kim's video Yes And then Lynn you hosted and I've come back

Came back last year Yeah I'm sort of I'm sort of on call My Hamilton costume is probably at 30 Rock For whenever they need it Yeah you've made a terrible mistake Which is you're willing and close Yeah exactly well you're in town anyway Lynn But you did a couple of pre-tapes

when you hosted a crucible cast party, which is really funny and great, but also the really wonderful Julio Torres, Diego calls his mom. Julio's a genius. I feel lucky to be in an early Julio. It was. It's like early Julio.

That's a good way of putting it. And there wasn't a lot of late Julio because he was one of those incredible writers at S&L who just realized, I think I've done what I've come here for and you're like, what? Yeah, he was on his own track. I think I left and then three years after I left,

I hosted and he was already gone. We didn't overlap and he'd already, I was like, oh, I'm so excited to work with Julio. And I'm like, no. Once you write wells for boys, what's left to do? Yeah, what are you going to do? You hit your ceiling. Everything else is for you.

All right, so we have 36. That's exactly how many we went through last time. Okay. So I feel like we're going to go through the 36, and then maybe if we have time, I'll go through the first 36 to see if you have any thoughts because I kind of feel like, I don't know what we'll call it, like save a friend.

If there's something you feel like was an oversight for criterion, you know. I mean, we could start there if you want. Speak now for every old two pieces. Do you want to start? I mean, all right, so. I'll just say what the, internet is already saying, which is laser cats should be one criterion collection in the criterion slot. Okay. So laser cats did not get 75% of us. Like we can't judge, we can't judge installments.

Laser cats as a concept. It's all one story. So you're saying you are, you are of my thinking of this, which is laser cats as a combination is criterion. Yes. I think individually it's criterion too, but it's like why waste those slots when it's really one long, I mean, it's like, like dividing a symphony into movements and judging each piece. Could I ask the question, though? Please. All right. So the lasers shoot out of their mouths and then also their eyes sometimes. Thank you.

That's all I wanted to know, Seth. I appreciate it. No, no. Okay, so I'll put it this way then. If, and the thing is, I absolutely agree that laser cats as a concept should be an entry. Yeah. You know, in criterion. However, does that also mean that the, you know,

the, wait a minute, what do you call those guys? The trilogy, the... Oh, the dick in the box guys. Yeah. I think we, I don't know if they actually have... Wait, do they have a name? Do they have a title? No, not really.

They're the color me baddish guys. Yeah. I feel like they're different. But yeah, but wouldn't those, wouldn't those three count as a trilogy then? No, I feel like they're individual enough. Because each one has a song that you remember the song right away, whereas like, even those guys, I bet if you were like, which one is like... players are kind of five they couldn't answer until they rewatched it got you okay and by the way no

judgment i i couldn't either and yorama definitely couldn't yorma probably couldn't even tell you which one dick of the box was got it but wait question did any of the guy number one guy number two bits make it to criterion they never were s&L you're like the the we like sports guys yeah that was sort of predated s&L um also that was a keva and yorma and not andy and uh i think Lauren would have rather canceled the show than put that on. Really? I got it. Once Lauren decided that

Andy was the one who was going to be on camera, he didn't kind of felt like the rest of the world should agree with him forever. So you say that every bit has Andy in it? Every Lonely Island bit has Andy in it? Yes. I think so. I can't think of a lonely... I mean, they did

maybe... Well, Virginia Horstyn. Yeah, Virginia Horstyn. Yeah, Virginia Horston, we counted. Body fusion. no Andy. So I guess there's a couple. Got it. Yeah. Mostly, though, you're going to get Andy. I'm going to go through them and obviously as many thoughts do you have. And I also, we've had

our listeners vote. We had a great many more listeners voted for this 36th than the last one, so thanks to them. And we also added the category of Kim's video for our listeners. So wait, the categories are Criterion, Kim's video, and additional reading? We just, the third category we called No. And by the way, our listeners seem to know exactly what that meant based on the vote.

Got it. Okay. And we sort of have said, like, for Criterion, it's not a, what do you call it? It's not a plurality. It's 75%. We kind of go in by, like, Hall of Fame rules. So, Space Olympics. I've got that in Kim's video.

For me, Kim's video is really makes me laugh hard, but has not, like, permeated global culture. Yes, right. You're like, you could live a full life without. seeing Space Olympics and never like embarrass yourself at a dinner's party at a dinner party. Yeah, exactly. But my kids laughed so hard at Space Olympics. I was watching sort of the Dropbox with my kids this morning and they actually changed some of my decisions. Yeah, I will say that's Kim's video. The audience agrees. They also said Kim's video. I will, a lot of times in why I've been a terrible bellwether over the years, the hardest I've laughed when I heard the song first

end up being like a little bit more Kim's video than Criterion. Like the first time they played me Space Olympics. Like that thing of Andy just like, things keep going wrong songs are my favorite. Yeah. It's my favorite kind of Andy comedy, especially when he's singing sort of full-throatedly. And what you all dissected is what I love about is it takes so long to get going. It's like, it's like not till three minutes you realize that Space Olympics are not in great financial shape. Yeah. And it's also like the way it looks and starts, I think people are very excited for a different idea. You know what I mean? Like it looks like it's going to be. be this big positive thing. And again, it was like coming out of the Olympics and it was just

financial troubles. Smart, though. So, um, all right. Hey was the next one. Um, which even now I kind can't quite remember. I think it was this sort of, uh, Hey, what is he? Was that on the Dropbox? Hey is, uh, feel free to jump in, Kevin, if we can't quite remember. But is Hay the very quiet, like, um, gossip girly one? Oh, I have that named, I think of the video had a different name. It was, um, Murray Hill. Oh, yeah. Murray Hill is what it's called. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think we can just based on everything that's happened so far, just a jump to no. That's a no. Yeah. I will say it also had the fewest yes votes of any that we're going to do. Yeah.

55 out of 5,000 listeners were like criterion, 100%. Yeah. Well, wait a minute. Was that ever reviewed on the podcast, though? I think it was, but I think we might have. So we actually have. I think they didn't love the way it ended and they kind of sped through it. I think we maybe sped through three in a row because coming into this section, we have some, and again, they'll heat up later in this run.

But we also have extreme challenge and jam the vote. And I think we might have done those all in one episode. Right. I put Extreme Challenge in Kiv's video. That really makes me laugh. Extreme Challenge has some nice stuff. It definitely had a majority no vote. Generally, if Will Forte, if it like pivots to Will Forte, taking over the video.

video, it automatically goes to Kim's video for me. Or maybe it's just, we have a secondary. There's a section in Kim's video called Will's videos. Will's videos. And it's behind a curtain like the X-rated videos. Yes. Like you have to go over here to see them. And Will's always there and he's like, hello.

And he's naked and crying. Don't look at me. Jam the vote. I only have a... Andy loves throwing up. I hate throwing up comedy. It's a no. Yeah. That's a no.

It was of its time because I remember those Rock the Vote ads were inescapable. but it's very of its time. Where are they in 2008? I feel like rocked the vote was like a previous era. Oh no, rock the vote was definitely like 2004 during the second half of Bush 2 era. When Eminem was writing Mosh. Yeah. That's your timeline?

They thought they needed to rock the vote because it was John Kerry. There was a world in which Eminem's Mosh changed the fade of fame. Hey, nerd. Nerd. All right, I'm very excited mostly just to hear thoughts from two. people who are very adept and informed about music, because the next one up is Ross Trent. Oh, my God. Okay.

So here's one. I went in thinking this is Criterion. It's probably one you guys quote most on the podcast. Yes. I played it for my kids. They didn't have any reference point for it. Like they don't know white roster guys. Oh, right.

Like they listen to reggae music. They don't know what they didn't like there was no way in for them. I laughed my head off at it. Yes. And maybe it makes Criterion. just because it's what makes Rihanna say yes and leads to Shirani. Yeah.

No, that's true. You know, I mean, it's sort of... It's definitely, so you're saying it's definitely not kids video with a D. It's not kids. No, it's not kids. They did not. I'm laughing my head off and they were just like blinking at it. See, but...

Maybe it's the THX-1138 that leads to Star Wars. Yeah. I believe the best joke of that whole bit is, it goes by in three seconds, which is kind of the... I know what you're going to say. The code switching of... of Ross Trit. Yeah, when he turns into Shireani.

Talking in a low voice in front of the brothers. Like, to me, when I saw that be very first time, that was an instant. But it's like blinking, you missed it. Yeah. I still say for that 1.9 seconds alone, that's my shit. I'm happy to say that the voters were a big yes on Ross Trent. All right. I revise my opinion.

We can kick that up to Criterion. Head suck Bada-da-da-ding-ding-ding-dom-ding-dong duck Excuse I for my sketching Giff's and praise Be toil part-time at Jock-Coldstone Creamery In a Doug Stuy!

A DVD of Prulynecks Murder She Rows Yaga, Yaga, Yacket Yacket, Yow! But I will say and not even being a young person when I saw it, I also did not get the sort of the granular observation

about sort of Rasta ska music. And so this was maybe my favorite episode of the pod to hear those guys explain all the reference points. Where you learn the most? It was maybe, and again, I remember, you know, Keeve being like, we should just stop start. And I was like, I don't think. And I was like, oh, this is really.

This needs footnotes. Yeah, this needs footnotes. Those guys are a lot of things to me. They're rarely interesting. And yet that day. Man. Also, the nugget that Joanna Newsom is singing backup. I know.

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I made the mistake of showing this to my kids. I remember you guys doing that episode and I wasn't familiar with it. And when I watched it again, I remember changing my mind about it. I think I told the guys it was Kim's video. Yeah. I think it's Kim's video. I would also concur with Kim's video. Yeah.

And Quest, I've seen the painting. Rudd keeps it in a closet in his house. Have you been to his house? I've been to his house. I went to his house recently and he brought the painting out. Yeah. Keeps it in his basement. Keeps everyone safe by keeping in his basement in the closet.

Yes. But it was a party, it was sort of like a karaoke night. at Reds House and definitely not a lot of members of Quaid Army there. And so when he brought out the painting, it was a real like, people are like, what? And you're like, don't. They're like, what's this? And it's like, it would take way too long to explain.

Oh, real quick, just because do you think, Quest, do you think Toots and the Maytalls would enjoy Ross Trent? No. I'm telling you, it's for, okay, being as though my entire livelihood depended on

every spring fling and spring college concert. I mean, the Roots would do like at least 150 spring flings. The Roots played my senior year spring fling quest. Really? Yeah, and there were at least 30 Ross Trent's in the crowd.

I went to Wesleyan, guys. And the real reason is because Wu-Tang would cancel the last minute and we'd be at home waiting Can you guys come to Dartmouth University? That's literally how we played every college because somebody from Wu-Tang was messing up.

That's the best. So then when you booked Wu-Tang, they would also go, and here's just a phone number that you're going to need a day before. They automatically know. Like, no, I'm not lying. Like, my first house was purchased on even the Rage Against Machine Wu-Tang tour that, like, my first house was purchased because of Wu-Tang.

So I'm like the 12th member. But I will say that just my existence on a college campus between 93 to about, you know, in 2008, Ross Trent's would basically drive the 15 passenger van that would pick us up from whatever city we were just in. He's usually the weed provider. Sure, sure. Smells like both underarm and patchouly at the same time, you know, and listen to. to either definitive juxt rap or just the deepest, like, drum and bass, like something from 96. Yes. I'm very familiar with all the rostrins of the world.

I do have affection for the rostrins? I mean, you know, it's hard for me to bite the hand that fed me. That drove you? Yeah. But I'm also the meditative route. So, you know, my dressing room is very silent, very zen. very dark, so I didn't have to deal with them too much. Do you remember the Roots show at Wesleyan? Well, Lynn?

Very well. It was huge. Biz Marquis, rest in peace, opened. Oh, my God. He played just a friend five times. I was going to ask what the... And then the Roots came out, and I decimated, because, I mean, that's the secret magic trick is like they can play anything, and they did. And it's, yeah, it was incredible.

Thank you. I appreciate that, Lynn. I would imagine the Roots more than a lot of college bands. And I hear now, like, when I go do stand-up colleges, they say one of the hardest things is, like, people don't take a risk and go see a band they don't know at a college anymore. I feel like we are the last, like one of the last, I mean, of course there's people, I mean, there's now Robert Glasper, Thundercat. Like, there's still people under the generational umbrella that we were part of. but yeah i do find out as year as the years go by it's hard for uh people to just really channel in what's in their hearts as far as like finding out something that's not popular you know so yeah and i would imagine though like the great reveal of like oh i'll check out the roots is

realizing like all genres knowing exactly what the audience wants at any given time they they wouldn't be uh to none of the colleges were for it like all those students would actually think it's Wu-Tang time until the very last minute where, like, the dean comes out like, is this thing on? Hello, hello graduating class of Dartmouth University. Welcome to, now, as you may have heard, Rayquine ghostface could not make it. And then, no, no, no, no, and so on Philadelphia, the roots. Oh, man. That's how it would happen.

Every white Dean's nightmare is telling an auditorium that the Racon didn't make it. Yeah. They don't teach that in Dean's school. No, we knew we had five minutes to make an impression or, you know, or else Littman Miranda's going back to his dorm. So we have five minutes to make the point. All right. Here's another. I mean, this is an actual, well, slam dunk, right?

Jizz in my pants. Oh, God. Yeah. That is probably my. fourth favorite. That's criteria. I have a collection of, like, my favorite Lonely Island rhymes, and grocery, mostily, is near the top of that. That's a real good one.

Grocery. A lot of them are from the Netflix thing. What? The Jose Canseco. Yeah. Hit a ding-dong doodle with my ding-tong bat. Hit a tater out the stadier. I mean, there's just insane things, those boys, right?

My name is Mark, no it's not Mork, and I like to eat pork because it's tasty on my fork. Yes. But I jork it out the pork. Jork it out the pork. The fact of like in a rap saying what your name is and then correcting people on a name nobody ever thought it was.

You know, like nobody ever thought it was Mork. Don't confuse me with Mork. Like before you even say, it's Mark. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. You know, because you guys are so gifted music. as well. When you first hear a song, are you still, though, do you love it for the comedy or the

music or just the fact that they're doing both so well? You know, it's weird. Normally for television, music's the corneous factor of most background music and whatnot. So even with Lazy Sunday, I specifically remember having us, and this is like when I first got TiVo. Yeah. So I TiVoed SNL. I was doing double duty. I was probably like taking a shower, but I had the volume up like super loud in the other room and I remember like I was in the bathroom and I heard this hard-ass beat and in hip-hop jargon if someone says yo that's hard that's like your three Michelin star compliment and I just remember thinking like yo I don't remember SNL like I've watched many in SNL rap parody and it always sounds like whatever Barney Rubble rhymes to on the fruity pebbles

Like, the second line is always, and I'm here to say that I like that. Like anyone that has, and I'm here to say as their second line, that's it. Yeah. So this was far from your Fresh Prince of Bel Air interstitial music. Like, yeah. This was like hard enough for like the roots to want to rhyme over. So then I watched it again. And I was like, wow, I never remembered an S&L bit that I would deem dope enough for me to want to listen to, like just to listen to.

it, not like, hey, this is funny. So yeah, the music element, and, you know, shout out to Yorn and all the producers that contribute to their, like, they put extra, extra thought behind the music. And that, to me, was like the most impressive part of it. Agreed. It's not an accent. When I look at my criteria and collection, it's almost all songs. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, it's that alchemy of, like, they work very hard to make these very dumb things. Yeah. And the music brings it to another level. They also, you know, working with them, they were so, the three of them were so supportive of the rest of the cast, the rest of the writers. They were fans of other people's work. They were not snobby towards other people,

but they had this internal snobbiness about their own work, right? Like, they never wanted to, like, not live up to their own standard or take any shortcuts, and I think it's, like, one of the reasons. Yeah, they were going to jork it out the pork every time. They jerked it out the pork.

Here's one. This is one where, unlike Mark McGuire, it's Virginia Horace. I would get this one. so that's one where you do have to clarify Virginia Horaceans Pony Express Every time I think about her Playing the other characters

And being turned on by Virginia Like the like eyebrow waggles I just start laughing all over This is an instant Kim's video for me Yeah Wait this is where wig Where wig delivers the mail for you But you have to send her the mail

Yeah And she's like hey howdy partner It's a lot of weird Like a lot of green screen It's the wigiest wig Yeah I was going to say I remember all of our horse travels being a green screen.

Yeah. Yeah. It's total Kim's video and a full, full delight. Yeah, it's like concentrated wig. It's the best. Cookies is basically a film sketch. That's Fred eating cookies

in the middle of a conference room. Yes. Very nice Fred performance, but... But that's a no. Yeah, because there's only one joke in it, really. And, you know, I will say they did a really nice job. And again, this speaks to, like, they would... I think on weeks where maybe they had not been inspired

to have, like, one of their incredible, you know, multi-platinum songs, they would see something at the table read and be like, oh, that would be a fun thing to shoot. And then it was, and it was very nice in the show. But, um, Dugie Hauser theme. Uh, see. This is criterion for me. Really? Yeah, I love, I love it. I am moved. It is moving. It's one of the only truly moving Lonely Island sketches, because the whole cast gets to play. Yeah. And it's like him honoring, uh, his youth. It's so beautiful. I find it genuinely touching that he can play that on the piano. I can't play half my Hamilton shit. I mean, I think that was truly impressive. I mean, Neil Patrick Harris is someone

who is constantly capable of impressing you beyond what you would think his already impressive talents are. But where do you land, Quest? I believe that that's criterion. But let me ask you, how many slots are in criterion? Well, you know what? We're not going to like cap it, but I will say, like, of the first 36, we had six Criterion. It seems like one of six tends to break through. And that's where the voters landed this round as well. Now, I will say the voters do not agree on Criterion for Dugie Houser. Really?

And it might just be because they're younger and they don't have an emotional connection to that young doctor that helped us through the 90s. Yeah. A couple of homies is a couple of homies. Which one's that, Kevin? Is that them at a party? No, that's the one that starts with them high-fiving and ends with Will Forte singing in a booth.

Oh, yeah. That's, that's Will's video. Again, I bump this to Kim because it belongs in that category of, it starts about one thing, it ends with being about Will Forte being amazing. Yeah. All right, I'll ride with Lynn on this one. I haven't seen it enough for me to actually weigh in.

And it weirdly has a beginning, middle, and end. At the end, there's like a wrap-up where it's like, it started by slapping fives. Oh, yeah. does seem like this one maybe they uh this this is what you come up with when you haven't come up with anything yeah but not a bad execution uh all right then we have laser cats forever um see i'm gonna prove my own point and immediately forget which one laser cats is steve martin yeah that's i mean it's really fun wasn't the fourth one the best one though i laser cats five with sigourney

and that had all the alien stuff you're right you're right that that is the best one but this one does have it also has the wonderful darts vader turn uh It's Keenan the whole time, and then they take his mask off, and it's Steve Martin. He goes from a black guy to a white guy, like we've been hearing Darth Vader, and then suddenly we see a pasty white guy when the mask comes off, which is so inside baseball and so funny. And this one completely split the audience, who the most people said it was criterion, but not enough to actually get to 75%.

A lot of people thought it was Kim's. A lot of people thought it was no. I think that's kind of what Lasercats is. It sort of spreads it around as far as where you land on it. Then we have, I believe this is the only one, under 100 people said it was Kim's, under 100 said it was no, and everybody else said I'm on a boat is criterion. No doubt. It's what you sing when you get on a boat. Like that's how much it's permeated.

If you're lucky enough to get on a boat, you put that on the playlist. Right. If I not win-whippin' out my coast. You can't stop me. Like, oh, because I'm on a boat. Picture drink. I'm on a boat. We drinkin' Santana Shamp because it's so crisp.

I got my swim trucks and my flipping flippies. I'm flipping burgers. You at Kinkgo Strait. Flipping coffees. So will these all be ranked or will they just be grouped in? I think we're going to group them into criteria. I don't know where we're ever going to do a full rank, yeah. Because the thing is, I agree that it is criterion.

Whenever I look at any poll of Lonely Island videos, the only thing I disagree with is most people unanimously make I'm on a boat the number one video, like way above digging a box. I don't think it's the number one video by a long shot. I think it's the most fun, it's the most anthemic song to sing, and it did make, it is the number one song I think of when I think of boats, which have been around, you know, for really. It displaced Rio by Duran Duran. If you're an Nadi's baby like me, you listen to Rio because Duran Duran's on that boat. It's crazy that, I mean, I feel like everybody was like, it was the kind of song that everybody was bummed they didn't think of. Like, why didn't we make a boat anthem? Right.

You're right. And I said it when we talked about it, but we were at a club in Vegas for Andy's bachelor party and the DJ played it. And it was the saddest I've ever seen Andy. That's not what Andy wanted. Not like this. He discovered he's a fake rapper and getting love. in the club? Well, it also didn't help that the DJ said, give it up for Adam Sandberg. So it was a lot, a lot went wrong.

A lot weren't wrong. To be honest, it's pretty cool that Joanna still married him after he got. Right. Or if you got ashamed like that. Wait, and actually, will this be the first episode in which we won't mention our New York Times game status at all? Unless you guys play and want to throw it out. I think it's absolutely diabolical. When someone gets that many Queen Bees in a row, I think that he's a serial killer. Ryan Murphy will be doing...

Oh, you think it's going to be a Ryan Murphy? I believe Ryan Murphy will be doing an Andy Sandberg story if he gets one more Queen Bee. Monster, the Adam Sandberg story. It's going to be Queen Bee Black Widow. Yo, someone that's smart for their own good... Yeah, he's too smart for his own good, man. And he'll let me know, like, at zero in the morning.

Like the second he gets Queen Bee and it's always, wait, you're on the B list as well? I mean, I'm, I have my own lonely chain and he'll let me know, like, I was just keeping it, you know, I was keeping it wordle. He loves telling people. They just laugh at Wordle like, oh, that's so three years ago, you know, like I'm trying to keep fetching alive or whatever. But yeah, he, he's never solved a Queen Bee before like 10 a.m. East Coast time, so. Yeah, it's, it is weird. It's full savant. I thought he was kind of a savant,

but I like your theory is that he's just like a serial killer who hasn't figured it out yet. No, that's serial killer. This is the gateway. Property of the Queen, that's the Jonas Brothers, where they sort of old songs theirs on. This is a no for me. That's a no.

I think all of the Saturday Live cast look really hot as rockers. Like they look really authentically 80s. Party guys is where they're like, oh, look at that serial rapist and Forte's a, having sex with a alphabets box of zero yeah specifically uh some nice jokes but it's a no i think party guys um wait party guys isn't even a kim's kim's i have it under kims because oh i'm sorry i shouldn't jump there of the escalation and you know what we had a lot of votes for kims i should not blow right by uh kim's as a potential answer for party guys yeah i think party guys is the least kim's

yeah i think if you're like a deep cut i mean again kim's is like oh you love like it's like the thing you say like oh you love like a boss check out party guys Yeah. What about this is now, you know, they're on a red hot streak right now. So I'm on a boat and then three shows later like a boss. Yeah, criterion. Criterion. Criterion. Oh, I'm Debra's desk. Buy a gun in my mouth. Oh, crap, man, I can't ever do it. Pussy out. Like a bow.

All right, here's where I lose all my credibility. I will admit that I heard the Lonely Island version first. Wow. So you went to them and you were like, guys, shit on Debra's desk. Slim Thug ripped you off. No, it was once when I heard the Slim Thug version, I was like, oh, that's where they got that from.

Because by that point, I was like, yo, man, these guys are too hard for their own good. Like, I like my funny rappers, funny, not like a threat to me. So was there relief when you heard the, when you heard the, uh, I got to admit, yes, yes. I got to admit. Like humor, humor for me is the most underrated kind of, uh, character trait that I think. the hip-hop that I love is missing, you know? Yes. De LaSoul was humorous.

Believe it or not, sometimes NWA was humorous. Like, humor to me is the angle. Like, Biggie was charming and humorous. He had a lot of funny double tundras and, you know, get it jokes and all those things. It is another very fun one, like I'm on a boat, a very fun one to scream along with. Yes. And then, you know, mother lover, which is the first time I feel. like they really had to follow a hit with another hit after Dick in a Box.

Because, you know, Dick in a Box could have been one and done, and it would be like, I'm on a boat, and you would love it forever. And the fact that they ran it back is so impressive for me. And really funny. Like, I think the funniest of the, like, platinum classics. Yes. In this criterion, I'm going to make your mama do a million posts. Like, there's so many just weird, funny, camamile.

Like, there's so many weird, funny turns of phrase in it. I was going to say, Mother Lover has problem. the best subliminal adlibs. Yeah. Like a blink and you miss it. Like, mother lover to me, it's... It rewards repeated listening. You think of what I'm thinking.

I'm thinking too. Slow up. What time's a dog. It's time for a switch to row. We both love our moms. Women with grown women needs. I say we break them off. Show them how much they really mean.

Because I'm a mother lover. You're a mother lover. We should fuck each other's mother's mother's mother's. But here's the thing that made, where you came out as a baby, ain't no doubt that's crazy. And fuck each other's my. But here's the thing also.

Is this the definitive criterion list and never to be rethought of again? Well, we're going to run it by the guys. And then we will officially stamp it. Yeah. Got it. I'm only asking because for me, I have so many other favorites. But it's like I get the point. And I'm not saying the whole, like, laser cap.

Like, they should all be under one category, under whoever those guys, the dick in a box guys. Yeah. Yes, Mother Lover and subsequently, the three-way one, are to me a level, Lonely Island, prime comedy. But I would actually want to make space for, too. But you feel as though those songs on their own have enough merit and humor for it actually to justify. Mother lover, for me, I enjoy more than Dick in a Box. I think it's hookier And I've said this before

I also thought because they had to outdo themselves You know there's that trap of S&L recurring characters Which is Are you just like going back to the well And the fact that they were like No it's gonna be a whole new thing Whole new song Now this guy's next to the making copies guy

Yeah right right okay I can take that But the thing is also You didn't know what you were gonna get With dick in the box though Yeah So my laugh was generally harder Because I didn't know what the hell was happening

Right But with Mother Lover, though, it was like so much pressure like, okay, this better be just as good or, you know, I mean, sometimes it happens. Yeah. I also feel like Dick in the Box was like a dead on spoof of a certain kind of 90s R&B, especially when they start outlining the steps. Yes. So it's funny on like that parody level. And then I think with Mother Lover, they like kind of created their own genre. Right.

Like, what is Mother Lover a spoof of other than the insane concept inside it? And it's a great song and they sing the shit out of it. And also it's like double or like three times the lyrics to Dick in a Box. You know what I mean? It's because it's so the staccato rhythm of it is. So they get so much more into it. It's like an Eminem album. Like I have to listen to Eminem on slow speed.

And I'll rewind a lot. Like I've not listened to an Eminem album just like casual. You have to study it. Yeah, you don't have it on while you do other stuff. Exactly. The other thing I liked is I feel like Dick in a Box might take away from those characters as they were perverts and then in this one

I'm like oh they're also stupid I like the comedy was like oh these are also really just dumb guys and I like just their like

sort of vacant stare while they were also like doing these verbal gymnastics is one of my favorite me yes it's true the date

is the date forte and Megan Fox yes and I kill the sheep and I have nightmares and then I have to do SWAT it's a no for me

but it's a great forte performance Yeah, it's funny, but it's a no. Yeah, for me personally, I would say, you know, it's in my top 10 rewatches because it's like all the weird turns that Forte makes. I would resoundingly choose to put it in Kim's video. Yeah, and you know what? The ending's a bummer.

I want them to be happy. You know what? I kind of agree with you. I think it's a little... Like, she loves this sheep murdering SWAT team man. It's a little sad. Like, let her find love. And she looks so beautiful and her hair is blowing.

Yeah, because I was rooting for him. I wish they'd ended up together. Yeah. Megg's roommate is another no. That's when her roommate is Optimus Prime. See, this one I put in Kim's video just because the transformation really made me laugh. Oh, yeah. I'm forgetting that.

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your financial goals faster. Join at Rocketandmoney.com slash island. That's rocketmoney.com slash island. Rocketumoney.com slash island. Through it on the ground. That is my all-time favorite. I love it. Like if I want to get somebody addicted to the lonely island, that's what I play it. Yeah. It's actually the first thing you play someone. Yeah. says it's my dad man this ain't my dad this is a cell phone I threw it on the ground

What you think I'm stupid I'm not a part of your system My dad's not a phone I mean and you've talked about it on the show But it's every kid's favorite song We have more broken toys Because of threw it on the ground Oh, I'm about to say, what's the kid effect going through it on the ground?

Oh, yeah. Wopa! That's so great. I haven't even, you know, it's so funny. I haven't, because I've, like, I've played my kids like, I'm on a boat and Captain Jack Sparrow because of just, like, them liking boats in those movies. But you're right. Threw it on the ground. I can't believe I haven't done it yet.

And we also, by the way, I let my kids listen to your podcast episode about Threw It on the Ground. Oh, great. And now the alternate lyric is, like, there's. like, it should have been that. Oh, my God. The moral of the story is, like, your kids really know this? Oh, yeah. Don't let them taser your butt hole.

Oh, my God. More nerds. How old are your kids, Lynn? They are 7 and 11, and I know, don't write me letters. I know it's too young. That's fine. Look, they're already your kids. Like, they're going to, come on.

It's great. And I will say, again, it's like, when we're going to get to it a little bit like Andy's face during a boiled goose. Like, Andy's face is in this. I just never get tired of. By the way, Andy's character is another person that I'm very familiar with in terms of the Ross Trent's of my life. Yeah.

Yeah, this is a very specific guy. That guy, the narrator. Wants to have a cipher. Yeah. Yes. He likes conscious rap, but he's not very bright. He wants to spit for us, right? Exactly.

And I will say, like, Ross Trent felt more while it was there, I feel like they had the most spit for us. specific observation on it. It felt way more familiar to me than this guy, who I feel like less people had ever shown you this guy. And the minute you see him and threw it on the ground, you realize you do know a dude like that. Yeah, but they were the first, I feel like,

really good comedy take on that kind of guy. Yeah, every guy I've ever seen my first year opening for the Beastie Boys on tour was this guy. Just disillusioned with the system. Yeah, my dad's not a phone. But my favorite part is still, when uh what's her name sort of eyes him oh jenny slate yeah jenny slate i fell in love with jenny slate just for that one that oh motherfucker like just perfect that and the uh the table ground

interruption as s and now has taught me the power of timing yeah as far as like repetition oh right yeah to cut to the joke so i always wonder was there another set up punchline before yeah it escalates perfectly like through on the ground the first two times happy birthday to the ground and then just ground yes this is my all time favorite and they do never ever let anybody get ahead of them yeah that would be uh they would be so insulted with their own work if people got ahead of them and most importantly two of my snare drums and claps are the the drums for this song get out and that's when the lonely island guys thought that i was a serial killer that i knew the texture and the tones of my own hands so where did they

get it and how did you know is yours um you know i'm a drummer and uh kind of in hip hop the best uh the best crumbs you could leave on the floor are any open snares any open kick drum so i'm notorious for not really giving much to hip hop fans you know how come you never let a drum break on your album i'm famous for that however when i worked on uh the late de angelo's voodoo album there's a They saw a song called Chicken Grease, and that snare drum from chicken grease was the snare sound of Amishay, 50 Cent era, G-Unit, Rockefeller jeans, Sean John, like, from 2001, a very specific, you know, when t-shirts were like 8X and people that should be wearing size 32 jeans are wearing like baggy, you know, size 48. but the clap from that song has fed. Like, if I were litigious, I could have made a pretty penny off of just nabbing people

with a radar gun for stealing that snare drum. Oh, my God. I hope we can isolate it and... I was proud, though. I mean, that's one of my... I hope, though, for our listeners, it would be great if we could take the chicken grease sample. I'll give it to you.

All right, great. And play it over... Later quads. You're later quades, and then we'll hear it. Later quads, we're going to hear the snare. Great. All right. Fantastic. Now we're kind of slow down a little bit, not slow down.

It's Brenda and Sean, which was Drew Barrymore and Fred as magicians, another one without Andy. That was a no. Yeah. That's a no. Firelight, the Twilight parody with Taylor Swift. They all look very beautiful in the Frankenstein makeup, but it's a no. It's criterion for the makeup department for Luis Zakarian and everybody that's an L makeup brand. Yes, please.

Your work has not. gone unnoticed. Uh, get out is, uh, you know, it's not the most memorable. That's the one where they keep, uh, Fred keeps walking in on Andy in the bathroom. On the toilet. It's a great, like, one joke where they heighten it really well. Um, I'd never get tired of watching it, but I think it's probably a no. Oh, where he's on the toilet. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like thinking about him filming outside 30 Rock on the toilet and in the elevators at 30, like, yeah. I enjoyed imagining how they made it more than I enjoyed watching it. Yes. And it is like, well, the mirror with Ellie Page is the other one where Andy gets walked in.

And, like, I think Andy, like, loves. Like, there's something very... I think it probably comes from Andy's deep-seated fear. It's going to happen in real life of somebody walking in while he's sitting on the toilet. All right, so this is not... Was not as resounding for our audience as it is for me, because this is my favorite of all time, which is two worlds collide. That's criterion, baby. Yeah.

Hang him like my nuts. make this song But it's usual We ended up No down Back to when I first Met Reba Sitcom dressing room

Puffin' on Cheever Said I was a fan She said Prove it Drop to denim skirt And said Hot to it They live all night

More like with Kids banging on the door Trying to interrupt But them autographs Can wait Because this is way Too strong I can't leave it alone

Because her is the bomb Okay Let me tell you something I got denied I got denied permission to make that Riba's walk-on song at the Tonight show

at the tonight show about four weeks five weeks ago who denied was it from Team Reba I just want to talk no no it wasn't that but it's also you know let's just say that

in my 16 17 year history of being at the show my walk-on song choices, sometimes range from decups. Sometimes it's a total victory. I will get a good snark in there and you won't know it. But we got busted a few times for ruffling some feathers, mainly from publicists that'll be like, why did they choose that song? So that bit to me is one of the smartest, funniest bits ever. So it's the best. I mean, the escalation is so funny. Yeah. Because it also starts with a trope. It starts with like these two worlds, these two different.

artists and then escalates to this really specific thing of like he's in love with this man who found a wig and he does not care he's in love he doesn't know also the man with the wig is not trying to fool him anymore like my favorite line is your friends are right oh your friends are smart smart your friends are right exactly wait do you specifically remember like when jokes are super visual and rely on quick punch lines and all those things. How is it presented in the room? Is it presented in the room in front of the entire cast? No, like, that was the magic of these guys.

It was very rare for you to have any sense. Like, if you were lucky enough to walk in while they were working on it on like a Tuesday night, but it was, you know, there were a lot of times they weren't even, they hadn't even cracked it by Tuesday night. That's wild. Oh, so they don't have to clear it ahead of time. No, they had, they had their own little fiefdom inside of, they really were. They got to earn.

early fiefdom based on, you know, they earned it with laser cats inside the criteria. It must be nice. Okay. But again, lazy. I mean, again, the first, you know, for the second one they did was lazy Sunday. So there was no reason to think they had to have a check on what they were doing. And it was really nice listening to them talk about how hard Lauren laughed at that one. Because, you know, Keenan wasn't. He laughed? Lauren loved this one. Like, Lauren loves Keenan. He also loves Andy. But there was something, too, about, you know, obviously they'd establish themselves as being, you know,

a dick in a box dirty, right? Like, they're going to be, you know, without cursing, they're going to be, and so this one, the speed in which this is like, oh, fuck, like, it's the, it's so audacious in a way that delights me to this day. Yeah, classic. Well, I think it's criteria.

It's criterion. Yeah, it's criteria. And then, I've been talking about an incredible back-to-back weeks here, then Shai Rani. Shai Rani. Okay. You know, it's weird.

It has to be criterion. However, when Criterion is done... Yes. You're all about ranking inside of Criterion. But here's the thing, though. When I watch Shireani, I have to watch it with the audience laughing. I got that. I watched it without the audience laughing.

And I was like, all right, my patience is like, okay, I get the point. Interesting. So when this is presented on Criterion, it has to have the audience laughter with it. Which is a really, we've never made that distinction, but that makes a lot of sense when you're talking about Shireani. Yeah. I just think up Okay, I'll take it from here

Okay, I just think her adlibs are so funny. Yeah. Oh, they're very Rihanna-ish. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is like, if Shai Rani weren't on this song,

this would probably chart as a Rihanna song. Like, musically, it's just successful in the Rihanna verse. Like, it sounds like an early aughts Rihanna too. Like, you could put this next to, you know, live your life or whatever. Like, it's just like, it's a great beat. And then just the fact that it's like every, you know,

mom encouraging their shy child. Yeah. Speak up. But this also makes me kind of sad that Saxman really wasn't brought to the light because as a musician, especially a musician that's always yelling, yo, give me a solo, you know, for, I will say Saxman is probably the roots inside joke right so i'm known for a last minute 11th hour like i have two microphones so if something will happen i'll just say kirk give me 32 bars real quick good solo and he'll be deer in headlights and then don't let tarreek just be like kick his acts man like literally

it will just become its own inside joke with the 11 of us on stage while the flustered soloist right is trying to get it together but it makes me happy that like saxman I mean, I think the absolute pinnacle for Saxman is that it is the inside joke for the roots. Like, it's a perfect landing spot there. Oh, my God. I'm to home. Don't let someone mess up or get shy on a microphone. I will be for like an hour.

And Jack Black is the perfect person for Saxman as well. Yeah. I love Shy Ronnie, but like, Saxman crawled so that Shy Ronnie could run. Also a thing that helps Shai Rani And I said it when we did this episode And I will say it again I truly think it might be the most beautiful A person who's ever looked on camera

I mean genuinely Agree Tizzle Whizzle show That's the James Franco Kids in pajamas Who all end up Yeah, you know where it's going From John

That's a no That's a no Yeah There were some Kim's love For that from the crowd But I think I think you could argue today Booty Call with Alicia Keys

Oh I didn't see that one It was cool Yeah. She's great. You're super happy to see the two of them together. It more than served its purpose that week. But I will say, like, even when I was like, oh, I have no memory of this, which I think is sometimes when you know it's not criterion. But again, when you guys did a thorough review of it, like, it made me almost reconsider again. Because I know the basis is based on the monologue she does at the end of You Don't Know My Name, where she does her sexy, hey, you know, whatever. seductive monologue thing is and of course Sandberg is the opposite of it like I like it I don't know see you might need an you might need an other yeah well wait where would it land so this is this is a no for you Lynn this is no for me yeah

ah damn it okay yes yeah you got to be it had some it had some Kim's love but it doesn't quite feel like Kim's because it's not like yeah you got it's more like everybody's really the writing is good the performance is and it just doesn't feel like... You're right. I don't know. Okay. Then Lasercats 5, which is Sigourney.

I mean, we've talked about Lasercats. This one has a ton of good jokes. Yes. I'm still voting for, like, you know, it's like the Jacques Tattee box set in Criterion collection is Lasagas. Yeah. The Curse, Sergio, John Hamm. I mean, if they hadn't broken the line, this would be...

I know. Right. That's going to cost it criterion. That's going to cost it criterion. Well, I think if it gets in Criterion, Keev is just going to cancel his criterion. fucking membership. No, I think actually the breaking of the line makes it Kim's video because it makes an art house movie.

Yeah. They broke on this? No, they broke the line. Akiva wasn't there, so he to this day feels like the filmmaking is shoddy. Got it. Okay. Yeah, that's one of Keeves peev's. It's Keeve-Peeve.

Personally, for me, is like on the non-musical digital shorts, this is about as good as it gets. I know I'm probably forgetting something. But, oh, like, Dear Sister and the Curse are kind of my two favorite, not song-based. I consider Dear Sister a song. That's true. That has, right. This has, you know. I watched this so many times that anytime I'm on social media, like, it tries to sell me a Sergio, like, mug off Etsy. So it's your, it's criterion for you.

Yeah, it's telling me Sergio merch because I was. Was the history of this based on the guy, you know, the guy that used to come into public places and start playing the sax intro to Careless Whisper by when? Is it like a solo from Lost Boys or something from some 80s movie? There's a band, there's a music scene in Lost Boys where there's a band playing, and they cut to this guy really jamming on the sacks with, like, his shirt off. And they stay, they just kind of linger on it too long. And I guess this was something that Yorma had observed years ago and was the inspiration for this. Oh, okay.

Because do you guys remember the careless whisper guy where he would go, he would go into the mall? And they'd kick him out the mall, and then he went to a church. When was this? When was this awesome guy doing this? He was the second viral internet guy that we had sit in with the roots. The first guy was, if you remember the the guy that had the golden voice, he sounded like. Right, the golden voice guy was the first. He would just talk while the roots played that was sitting in back in 2009.

Did you guys ever play with Taze on Day, Mr. Chocolate Rain himself? We tried. That's a misopportunity. Wait, how do you know his name? Oh, I went all the way down the rabbit hole to find out what Tazond Day was up to in 2020. Oh my God, dude. Listen, procrastination takes many forms. Yeah.

Anyway, so we found the guy that was causing a ruckus. He would just, just like John Ham's character with no shirt, with just suspenders on, would just run into like airplanes mid-flight, uh-da-do-do-do-do, until he gets kicked out or arrested. And so on his way to the Tonight Show. show he actually got arrested for doing it in the airport so he couldn't even wait until he got to the tonight show no he had to do in the airport no he had to do it so so it was maybe a problem yeah but i was wondering if this was based on that guy no this was uh i'm starting to think maybe well no he was he seems like he predated uh this one got it okay okay um oh wait where did you guys

land i didn't get where do you land i like the curse enough for be criteria and i and i think it's Kim's video like, it is a... All right, so Kim's for Lynn. Oh, you're like to roll on the ground. Let me play you some Sergio. Gotcha. All right. I'll Kim's video it. Okay. So Criterion has to be three Michelin Star, five stars across the board.

Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a pop culture element to it. Got it. Okay. Then we got Flags of the World. That's just like... That's at the top of my Kim's video list. Yeah, it's real Kim's.

Just for the hottie and the naughty flag. Yes. Yep. Zach drops by the set. That's Zach Alfanakis. is just sort of walking into France. Oh, where he interrupted law and order? Yeah.

I think that's a Kim's. I think it's Kim's, too. Yeah. It's got good Kim's side. Boombox. Where do you guys land on Boombox? Again, like, music always bumps it to the top for me. This is such a beautiful, like, that surprise of the third boiled goose.

Yeah. Makes me laugh so hard. I know it's coming, and I still laugh every time. Well, guess. It gets me every time. It's in the criterion for me. and play this song. The music watched away all they hate,

and society started advancing. Every demographic was represented. It was a rainbow coalition of dancing. Whoa, everyone was wearing fingerless gloves. Whoa, I saw Spanish got to do in the bartman. It's also like the beginning of them, like, working with the strokes, and that's a whole, like, fruitful partnership on its own. It's, yeah, it's Julian Casablancus and Andy. I needed to, it was not criterion for me, but the rewatch has sort of pushed me more to that.

You saw a Spanish guy doing the Bartman. That was kind of. That was a tipping point for me. There's a point where Fred Armisen's just in the, just to hear Julian, like, the coolest voice. and rock music being like, I saw this bandit guy doing the Bart, man. It's so insane. And by the way, that is,

I think when you're Julian and you agree to do a lonely eye on a digital short, you're hoping they're going to give you that kind of gold, right? Yeah, I guess so. You're like, I'm bringing the voice. Try to write something for me, I'd never say. And that certainly is that.

Yes. The other man is Ryan Philippi, and that's Andy playing sort of like a weird Swedish guy. I mean, I put it in Kim. just because the Andonio Sam Darius voice, which is a term I'm coining that no one's going to ever use. I like it. Andonio Sam Darius.

Oh my God. It's really good. And Domeo Sam Darius. Yeah, that's the portmanteau I've invented for this guy. Thank God this podcast exists, Lynn, because I don't think you'd get a lot of traction on that outside of this. You know, Andonio Sam Darius. Yeah, it's Kim's for me, but I also know it's not one of the more memorable to the world.

It's got some nice games back. And then a Gabri Citibet and Cherry Battle. That was the long swimmered-in-the-ground camera for the very slow-motion spitting cherries back and forth. That's a no. Yeah, this was a no for me, although they're both adorable. It's sort of just one move.

They're fun, nice people to watch. Yes. And I like their bat with the end, but it's a no for me. So, welcome to Criterion. Ross Trent, jizzed my pants. I'm on a boat, like a boss, mother-lover, threw it on the ground, Two Worlds Collide, Shy Ronnie, and Boombox.

Oh, did Dugie Houser not make the cut? Is that just me? I just keep looking at it. You guys both said, yes, only 349 people, like, less than 10% of our listeners. All right, Gen Z, you kicked Dugie out the top spot. Oh, man, come on. Well, look, I'll bring it to the guy. I think it's two out of three.

We have our listener voters. We have our expert panel, which is you guys, and then we have the actual Lonely Island. So if two out of three, but I bet Lonely Island is also not going to push for Doogie. to make it in. Gen Z, younger listeners, can I make my play? Imagine Addison Ray 20 years from now

hosting Sarah Live and she sits at the piano and she plays Diet Pepsi and the whole band joins in. And it's like, it takes you back to you. And a tear. And then a tear goes down.

Like, I'm trying to paint the picture for you for how this lands on the geriatric millennials. That was beautiful, that was poetic. I don't know, if you're not, you guys, I know this isn't a video podcast.

Quest is crying so hard right now. Yeah. Like, I was like, wow, Lynn, you're the king of explaining stuff. You were just, you were crying at the emotion. You were just like crying that you're never going to be able to explain stuff as well as Lynn. We also, what's the deal with laser cats? I believe laser cats should be in criterion. Is its own box set inside?

I, yeah, again, I know Jake Tapper has a real stick up as, you know what about this. But yeah, they're all in. He's going to draw us all his cubes. If you went and bought like a criterion collection of, of Lonely Eye and then you got home and you realized there were no laser cats in there, you'd be furious. And if there were only three in there of the seven,

you'd also be furious because you want to watch. Anybody you watch... It's the second disc. It's the second disc in the Criterionicesterion collection. Criterion's not going to do two of the Star Wars movies. You know, if you buy the DA Pennebaker making of company, as a supplemental material, you get co-op the musical.

You do get co-op. You do. So that's what it is. Yeah. So I know this is curated or whatnot, but I also believe that eventually one day, I want a complete anthology of the Lonely Island

Complete anthology Like the hits and the misses Here's an example I know that you guys voted thumbs down For What's the apartment bit That they didn't have anything that week Oh

That's wrong Yeah, Dakrit's gonna see To me Please do not defend Dacker Girl Dude I don't think something I don't think something

Has to be perfect I don't think it has to be execute it perfectly for it to fit the criteria because the Dackery girl to me is what the lonely island's about hits and misses. A hundred percent, yes. This is my example. This is my Asson Ray example. Explain it to me. James Brown, James Brown in my opinion, his, his canon falls either under two things. Either his creations will change your life because they're so revolutionary, as a pioneer and something you never heard of before, idea-wise. Or the idea is so horrible that it's amazing.

Like, show girls, like, you know, when something's so bad that you love it. Yeah. And to me, I feel like, I don't know. I believe that Dackery Girl is, you know, it would have played well at Andy Warhol's, like, factory. Yeah. I will say what I like about and what's so fun to go through him is, like, realizing that the same guy who can come up with, let's say, I'm on a boat. Like, a few weeks later or a few weeks in the future,

like, the best they can do under that time constraint is Dackery Girl. I think it's a really nice thing to show young people who are trying to get into being creative, which is like, oh, man, it doesn't. This is what a weekly deadline looks like. Yeah, like sometime. And by the way, but the great thing about Dackery Girls, it's like, there's still like four or five really fun things in it

that only those guys have come up with. So it's not a complete failure or anything, but I like showing the gaps. Okay. Yeah, but I believe that. that Dackery Girl deserves, like, you have to show the totality of... Well, we, guess what? I'm going to create a fourth category called Questlove and only Questlove.

It's Dackery Girl. It's Quest Love's pick-to-click. Sorry, Dackery Girl. Yeah, just one video, one video only. And Tudor, you can have Tudor for that, too. No, I'll take Dackery Girl, man. I want to redo, man. I want to redo.

Yeah, I know. They did you so dirty. I can't believe they used your snare. And then the best they would offer you as a part was. All right. So I think they did get a little hotter in their next 36 digital shorts. They went from six to what looks like nine. I feel satisfied. And there's some crazy weekly runs inside of that too. Yeah. It really is. They're the best in the world. This has been fantastic, you guys. I can't believe you made time for us. What an honor. Dreams coming true. And I appreciate you. Let me get on your space. base, Lynn, because I know with you alone, this episode would have went way further. No, listen, this is... If you were with the other three. But then we would not have had a passionate defensive degree. And where would we be? Exactly.

Right, we would have been exactly where everyone else is. All right, you guys. So you're now commissioned officers in Kuwait Army, a couple of lieutenants. Let's see if Dugie Hauser makes it. Hit us in the tithis if you have questions, comments, consider us. and very excited that Quest will allow us in perpetuity to use his snare. I will send you the snare hit, yes, I will.

And so in that place, I would just like to say, I love you guys. I love you guys, too. Love you. And do you want it? Do you want to say goodbye to Lynn, why don't you say goodbye? Later, Arnold. Later, Quades.