The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - The Best Look in the World
Episode Date: December 9, 2024The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers talk about the digital short, The Best Look in the World! Plus, they also discuss memories from sketches like It’s a Match, Scared Straight, The Suze Orman show, an...d more!Shia LaBeouf Monologue - https://youtu.be/A055zDTYkwI?si=BOJEBpDHKM_k5-DR It’s a Match - https://youtu.be/jBuN9sZoaXA?si=etApj1HFpIUJjNQP Scared Straight - https://youtu.be/SuKlky3Rde8?si=03bYltgI-I5wuN-j Scared Straight - Betty White - https://youtu.be/H0HO07pbRe8?si=ffmNDv6oVvIUZS8P Vinny Vedecci Talks with Shia Labeouf - https://youtu.be/p6ee5W-9pDk?si=eUiU6MsGe330A30q(Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @thelonelymeyerspod. Send us an email! thelonelyislandpod@gmail.comSupport our sponsors:VuoriVuori is offering 20% off your FIRST purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at vuori.com/ISLAND  Not only will you receive 20% off your first purchase, but enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns. Aura FramesSave on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35-off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code ISLAND at checkout. Hello FreshGet 10 FREE meals at HelloFresh dot com slash freeisland. Applied across 7 boxes, new subscribers only, varies by plan. That’s 10 free HelloFresh meals, just go to HelloFresh.com/freeisland  Hello Fresh: America’s #1 Meal Kit ShopifyUpgrade your business and get the same checkout Aviator Nation uses.Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at SHOPIFY COM/ lonelyisland Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards
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-♪ It's the Lonely Island Seth Meyers Podcast!
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Lonely Island Seth Meyers Podcast.
And I want to start by saying, with Here We Go,
I reached out to Joe to get a voice note.
-"Here I go."
-"Excuse me. Here I go."
And Joe basically said,
"'I'm doing something. Can I get it to you tomorrow?'
And I said, "'Yes.'" That is now eight days ago.
I have actually written to him a couple more times
being like, any chance and radio silence.
But just so you know,
that is probably forthcoming at some point.
We'll just run it whenever he gets it to us.
Whenever it gets in.
Couple of things I forgot to mention last week,
which would have been a more opportune time
to read some comments about Here I Go.
Someone wrote in,
because obviously there was a great dog in Here I Go.
Someone wrote in, was Frisbee ever in the running to be the dog?
Now, obviously that listener knows the long-standing feud
between you Andy and my Italian Greyhound Frisbee.
Yeah.
What would you have thought about Frisbee being the dog in Here I Go?
I mean, why would I ruin the video?
I mean, the audience would have recoiled at seeing Frisbee.
Because you don't think she's a pretty dog.
Do you think the audience would have
cheered seeing Frisbee being arrested?
Like, get that dog off the road?
Oh.
Whenever I have to see her again, yeah.
Right. Yeah, yeah. Get her off the street.
Somebody mentioned that song from Big Lebowski.
I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in.
As a sort of backing up your use of condition.
Yeah, they felt as though we messed the best example of it.
I see.
Did people understand the line or were they mostly?
More people had your back than didn't.
Yeah.
They were also just probably the ones that would write in
cause they're like proud, like I got it.
Yeah.
Also the moment on the porch we love so much
with the guys crossing and crossing your legs,
we sort of talked about the,
underneath the hairdryers at the salon.
That was Bills, Bills, Bills by Destiny's Child.
Ah.
So that's just, that's just addressing
some of the comments and also to prove that we read them.
So, you know, do plant your flag in the ground
and know that we'll get around to it.
By the way, Jorm's in Finland shooting.
Have we said it this episode yet?
Oh, man.
We gotta do that at the top of the episode.
This is one I've been looking forward to as well.
Dackery Girl last week, I was obviously like,
best look in the world is a disaster.
Do you look forward to bad ones more than good ones?
Well, cause I love it.
I love everything Andy was trying to do.
I think about lines from it all the time.
Andy?
Yeah.
What's the nugget of the idea for Best Look in the World?
I don't remember how it started,
but it was certainly based on many,
many convos about like,
I mean, I've talked a lot about a lot of people in
our generation had slumber parties where
their dad came out in his tidy white,
he's wearing a T-shirt and yelled at everyone.
And then a lot of people that wear suits,
you know, you have that moment
where you put on the dress shirt first
and you look like that and you're like,
oh man, this is bad.
So socks, socks with garters and then a shirt.
Exactly, black socks, dress shirt, no pants. And just talking about how that is basically like as bad as,
in this case, a man could look.
Yeah.
And then trying to build out a whole song around that,
but reclaiming it and saying it's the best
look in the world, sarcastically.
Fair to say that the take on it is a real Hank Williams Jr.
Are you ready for some football vibe?
Absolutely.
Right down the middle.
That was the inspiration visually.
I guess I should just start out by getting this
out of the way and saying, I love music.
I know a lot about music.
That is a genre of music I had no business touching.
You know what I mean?
But us now, we could do so much better.
So much better.
Well, I wanted to prove the point.
When you start singing in Here I Go, it immediately sounds great.
Thanks.
We've learned a lot.
You're immediately the worst you've ever sounded.
On Best Look in the World.
Yes.
Absolutely.
It's out of your register.
You're a mess.
Yeah.
And there's no rest for the weary.
It's super fast, way too high.
Yeah. Ow!
Looking good.
Let me tell you about the look I know.
From San Diego down to Mexico.
It's not secret and it's just for the jam.
So button up your shirt and grab your pants.
Dress shirt, black socks, footer boots on the take off.
Underpants, p-loats, pants dance.
You look good.
The best look in the world.
Would you argue it's the worst you've sounded?
I would.
Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, yes,
because the video is telling you that what you're seeing
is like a quote unquote big one.
There's lighting rigs and stuff, you know what I mean?
It's OK to sound bad like that sometimes
when it's on purpose and it's the character
and that's the point.
But it isn't helping in this one.
This one, I was surprised how much I liked all the jokes and how much I
couldn't stand them right now when I just rewatched, I mean, because of the bad music.
Yeah.
And I really honestly wondered how much better it would be if we had moved it into
your range and made it sound good and then did the exact same lyrics, everything the same.
It would be so much better.
Yep.
You're both super fun.
I like looking at you.
The cutaways are great.
Yep.
It drills down to the premise.
It's so hard to hear.
It's so hard to hear.
You're singing so fast and the lyrics are so dense.
Yeah.
And I could not, there were parts of it I could not parse.
And so I went to the old, on YouTube, the closed caption.
Oh.
And it was the best because it just said closed captioning unavailable.
It just pooped out.
YouTube basically said, this isn't for us.
Oh my God.
I mean, let me tell you about a look I know from San Diego down to Mexico.
That's not really that far.
No, and by the way, also you're leaving out
that it's like, let me tell you about a little.
It's.
Ah.
Right out of the gate.
Again, it's one I think about all the time.
Now, we have a couple of voice notes today.
Okay.
Because there were people involved in it.
One that I'm gonna ask Jeff to play right now
is Rob Klein loves this so much.
Oh, no.
He's always, I have not heard this, I just said to Rob, please record your thoughts about
Best Look in the World.
This is Rob Klein, who we've talked about a lot.
Yep.
SNL writer, dear friend.
Okay, the Best Look in the World, I guess this is Shia's second short
after he did Dear Sister.
And I just rewatched them both.
And I don't know what you guys have been saying.
I actually felt like best look in the world
is maybe the less good one of the two.
In terms of overall quality.
I don't know where you guys are at on that.
Having said that, it has brought me so much joy
over the years.
I genuinely will sometimes just Google the lyrics
to best look in the world and read them
and laugh in my room by myself.
I think what is truly special about it
is it is so fast, but also so densely written
with like baroque turns of phrase,
where it's basically like you're trying to read Shakespeare
while you are writing on the mummy ride at Universal Studios.
Pee-loaf, pale stems, your Jimmy Cap is crowning like a newborn.
You're given nanoseconds to process these new phrases
you've never heard before moving on.
Let's see. I would also say Andy's vocals are hanging on by their fingertips, which
does make it funnier. And I genuinely like and this is the only new observation I had.
I guess I always thought it was like when you come home from a wedding, you take your
dress pants off and then you've got from a wedding you take your dress pants off
And then you've got your shirt. You've got your socks. That's what you're wearing
I thought that's basically what this is referencing
But then almost immediately it says put on the shirt and socks and take off your underpants
Which is not that what you would do you wouldn't walk around with no underwear with the white shirt
So that's right, and that's fine, but I guess what little logic
I thought I identified is absolutely not there.
But I do love it.
Thank you, Klein.
I mean, it's true.
Pale stems, pea loaves for penny loafers.
Penny loafers, yeah.
Pea loaves.
And I should note...
It's good. So in the beginning, Shia walks into a P Loafs. And I should note. It's good.
So in the beginning, Shia walks into a locker room,
Andy's getting ready, Shia is taking it back.
We only see that Andy's in a white button-up.
We don't see his lower half.
And Shia said, I thought you said you were ready to go
and you're like, I am ready to go.
And I will say Shia has that really natural acting style.
He says, where are your pants?
It's such a perfect line read. And then we see you're not wearing it,
and then you say it's the best look in the world,
and then we start the video.
It is mind-blowing how much pixelation is in this.
I mean, that was part of the sell in our minds.
Yeah, the idea is that you're like,
and not all the time, it's just on certain moves,
it reveals itself,
because you're wearing a long white dress shirt.
Just to rewind it a hair though, Seth,
before the reveal in the locker room
that I'm just wearing what I'm wearing,
it already is a psychotic outfit to be
in a white dress shirt alone.
Right, without the jacket or the suit.
Yeah, to be like, I'm ready to go, no tie.
Here's why we thought this was going to be something,
is because for us, that look is iconic.
You thought you had high hopes. Yeah, we thought this was going to be something is because for us that look is iconic. You thought you had high hopes.
Yeah.
We thought because, you know, like as Yoram always used to call it or still does porky
pig in it.
Yeah.
Meaning the shirt with no pants or the Donald duck, which is mentioned in the video with
the Donald duck strut that I'm sure you're going to get to Seth.
Yeah.
And because you loved it obviously.
But I think we thought, oh, we've identified a trope, much like even Dear
Sister, the previous Shia one, identified a trope of like being shot and then not believing
it and looking up and looking thing and holding it. And where we like, oh, we've identified
a look that everyone knows but hasn't put their finger on and we're going to plant a
flag on it somewhere. And that's going to be something that now belongs to us and this
song and this moment. Everyone's going to relate to this and go, I recognize that.
Now there's an anthem for it.
Dads are going to come out at that slumber party and go, what?
I'm doing my Donald duck strut.
I don't think we've said any of this, but I'm saying, I think that that's like
somewhere in at least my subconscious when you're doing something like this.
That's your dream version of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where you're like, Oh, I think there's something sticky,
as they would say it now in marketing.
You thought that for the last 15 years,
anytime anyone saw that, they would go,
best look at the world.
That's the dream scenario.
Yeah, I'm saying the week we're making it,
even if we're not saying these things out loud,
when we think we're onto something,
oh, this could really be,
we might be really onto something here. While we were shooting it, we think we're onto something. This could really be,
we might be really onto something here.
While we were shooting it, we thought it was so funny.
That's why this is more humiliating.
Can I ask a question?
I know we haven't even totally delved yet,
but if the song had been of a much higher quality,
you know what I mean? If you could hear the words,
if I didn't sound terrible,
if it was musically satisfying in a way,
do you think that is a premise that would have been successful?
I think if the setup had been a dad,
you would have been off to a much better start
because a piece would have clicked.
Strong agree. Even if it was us pretending to be dads.
A hundred percent. Because the fact there was two young dudes,
it made it too hard to get in.
And then immediately, as we said, it's so fast.
The lyrics come so fast that there's no time to like.
Honestly, the setup you said, Andy,
should have been the setup.
It should have been a slumber party.
And they go, hey, keep it down.
And you're, oh, dad, don't come in here with my friends.
Put pants on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the dad was like, this?
This is the best look in the world.
Yeah, and then I'm immediately just happy
seeing some dads do it more.
But if it's a genre of music,
we feel much more comfortable.
And like say it was me and Justin
and it was those dick in a box dudes,
and all of a sudden that's the hook of that song.
I wonder if it would have been something
people would have enjoyed more
because they would have been able to actually relax.
Well, they definitely more, a lot more.
Yeah.
Well, the other problem is you and Shia then, while you're performing the song,
don't actually have that look because you're also wearing like vests.
And cowboy hats.
And cowboy hats.
Yeah.
So it's like halfway between Hank Williams Jr. and the best look in the world.
Also, Shia in the beginning is confused and against my look
and then immediately joins in on the song.
Yeah.
I was surprised by that, but I was okay with it,
just personally.
Yes.
Same, obviously same.
Well, I just mean right now when I just watched.
Obviously back then we were just fine with it.
Shoemaker said something, and I hope you guys
don't find it damning.
Sure.
Because I watched it with Shoemaker today.
And he said that when you guys left,
the show saved so much money on its pixelation budget.
We went to the pixelation barrel a lot.
We like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you read some of the other lyrics, Andy,
because you found some and like I said,
I did run up into a brick wall today trying to.
It's top secret and it's just for the gents.
Button up your shirt, drop your pants.
Dress shirt, black socks, put them both on, but take off your underpants.
Pilos, pale stems. We knew those.
It's top secret. I mean, right off the bat, I'm like, it is?
Your lower buttocks has got to show sports sandals are optional.
There's been a long history of sports sandals
and sandals and socks stuff in lonely island work.
Yeah. And it's never been hipper now, coincidence?
I'm with you, my man.
This is that fucking speed tweet all over again.
Here it is.
Wait, so, Klein called out your Jimmy Cap is crowned like a newborn,
which is fantastic.
Jimmy Cap never been called that?
Never been said.
Amazing.
It was one of those things where you said it was such confidence,
I thought everybody was saying it, and I was the last guy to hear.
Your Jimmy Cap is crowned like a newborn,
and he's definitely, definitely my line.
Then toned Cav's cool attitude,
and then you showed, like, the inside of an older gentleman's knee
for the line,
a soft breeze is tickling your knee pits.
Tickling your knee pits.
You're talking me into that this might be good.
["TICKLING YOUR KNEES PITS"]
On the merits of the writing alone, it does make me giggle.
Yeah, this is the right way to enjoy it.
I mean, again, this is why it should have been dads,
because again, you don't hear this and think of an old guy.
Also, I'm looking at the lyric and you can confirm, Andy,
that this is the actual words.
I would say I'd never heard it this way.
Liver spots, flank steak thighs.
Yeah, that's me. Ha ha ha ha!
This is the way it was meant to be received.
Somebody kind of with a little bit of a tone of hatred
just reciting the lyrics.
Tell me everything about it you hate, Seth.
I hate something that you guys...
It found its medium.
By the way, I bet a lot of our listeners
are gonna say that Seth is wrong, this is great,
and I'm happy to be wrong.
I don't know they will. I don't think they will, yeah, yeah. Seth is wrong, this is great, and I'm happy to be wrong.
I don't know they will.
I don't think they will, yeah, yeah.
Illiterate genies.
Sucks. I did not care for.
I hated it.
Okay, great.
Disliked.
Re-watching it, I was like, we ran out of steam
on what already wasn't working.
It's a dud.
Also, you undersell the premise when you're like,
dads, best look in the world.
Like, it should have only been dads.
Correct.
I mean, look, Hindsight.
Hindsight 20, right?
I will say, like,
there's a lot of fun stuff here, and if you could hear the word...
Like, by the way, flank steak thighs should be yelled
from the rooftops. That's fantastic.
And yet...
Wiverspot's flank steak thighs is good.
It's great.
I stand by that.
I mean, again, pale stems is great.
Love it.
Um, by the way, I'm totally getting off topic.
Very impressed that you got a clean B today, Sandberg.
Thank you.
I did get queen B today.
Oh, that should have been the headline.
I know.
Didn't send it to me.
You didn't text you, even though I did kind of crave you
saying you were happy for me.
Well, I am.
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I'm going to throw something out there because I know you guys are making
new music. Give yourself permission to do a Taylor's version on this one. For real.
Like you've never done it. Take this back to the shop because I do think there's
something here. Okay just whole new instrumentation on it, whole new vibe.
Slow it down. We now are all dads. You're all dads. New intro, new outro, just audio.
And exact same lyrics though, right?
But different genre of music we're saying.
Well, it could be the same.
I don't know.
I still think it's Hank Williams.
I just think he slowed down a little bit.
I think by the way, if you know what you knew now,
you could do a great version of it with this speed.
Agreed.
Just better sound design.
I will be honest. I don't wanna hear it slowed down.
I want this version,
but I wanna be able to hear the lyrics better.
I'm with you.
I'll also say this,
I came to country music very late in life.
Like when we made this video,
I didn't really listen to it or know anything about it.
And now I really like a lot of country.
And you would then have the same applications
of the things you like in music
that the Lonely Island does so well.
I mean, we haven't really properly tried,
but I do believe our songs are always better when we have
a better understanding of the genre we're working in, yeah.
Just like anything.
Also, there's something very fun about a,
are you ready for some football song?
Sure.
I remember a line you always pitched for,
what was the Black Eyed Peas song that was Mazel Tov?
I've Got a Feeling.
You guys had a version of an I Got a Feeling song.
But we never did it, right?
Yeah, but we never did it.
I know, but there was a line in it that always made me laugh.
It was like a party anthem song that you could use for every.
The observation being Mazel Tov is in it because
then they would play it at Bar Mitzvah's forever.
Yes.
I remember you once said that one of the lines was,
the Chargers won. It's just like that it was. forever. Yes. And I remember you once said that one of the lines was, the Chargers won.
It's just like, then it was.
Oh, it was, I remember, there was an idea we had that we never cracked called a song
for every occasion.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
But it was based on, you had explained it to me, it was based on Mazel Tov being in
that song.
Yes.
And the Chargers won always made me really laugh.
Which by the way, a few weeks ago, I already talked about the after party when Charlie
hosted. Yeah.
That song was played.
I've got a feeling that tonight is gonna be a good night.
And the current SNL cast was all really vibing to it.
I believe that.
Hey, Eric Kenward always been known among all of us
as the reverse Jost in the fact that 20 minutes ago,
I texted him and said,
hey, Andy said you had a lot to do
with Best Look in the World. Can you record a voice note? 20 minutes ago, texted him and said, Hey, Andy said you had a lot to do with Best Look in the World.
Can you record a voice note?
20 minutes ago.
Yeah.
The voice note is in.
Bless his heart.
Excellent.
All right. Best Look in the World.
Let me see. It was a lot of fun.
It was a lot of fun to do.
I'm sure Andy said this.
I'm sure everyone said this.
It didn't turn out great.
Andy and I were talking about this recently,
and it was the first time they tried to do
a rockabilly almost countryish song.
It was just way too fast and we didn't realize
that no one is going to be able to understand the lyrics.
It was one of those ones that I remember writing it and loving it,
laughing really hard, thinking it was fantastic,
and then watching it on Saturday and just being like,
oh, yeah, that's right.
No one can understand this.
But the whole experience was a blast.
I remember shooting over on kind of, you know,
on the West Side Highway where they shot so many things,
but doing it just kind of like run and gun guerrilla style
with a bunch of extras not wearing any pants.
It's kind of raining.
We were just kind of like walking around the neighborhood,
sort of looking for shots,
places that we could have these guys run around.
Yeah, I remember Shia was a really good sport.
My overwhelming memory is that it was a lot of fun,
but that it's not one for the ages, unfortunately.
I hope some of this is useful. Bye.
Yeah, that's about right.
I remember that night too being like,
because we had done one with Shia that we already have talked about,
dear sister, that clearly had an impact and And feeling like, oh, man, we thought
we were going to, like, hit it again with him and didn't.
And I felt kind of, like, guilty.
We had also done those first Tuesday promos with him
that had gone really well.
Oh, right.
I think this week was the first week of Tuesday promos, right?
Is that right?
Yeah.
Or maybe it was the second week, but they were the ones
that we liked.
Now that's just a staple.
Yeah.
We've talked about them before, but I believe this was the week where we started and we
really liked them because we did kind of like Andy popping into frame style goofing off
on the roof garden.
Let's explore the roof garden.
And it was these promos with Shia that just came back to me.
I'm pretty sure it was for this one.
And so we were like, man, when this guy shows up, he's like, just one of the guys fits in
right with us.
We love this.
I definitely felt like we let Shia down.
Even if he never said anything,
I felt sad that we had squandered him.
He was not squandered.
He was in MacGruber.
Do you remember his MacGruber, Andy?
You were in one of them.
I was in a MacGruber?
You were in a MacGruber because Shia played MacGruber's son,
and it was dawning on MacGruber that Shia was gay.
One of the joyous things about McGroober
that people maybe forget is that McGroober
is a terrible person.
Yes.
Just genuinely a terrible person.
He's a terrible person in the movie.
And one of the great tricks the movie pulls off
is that you root for McGroober,
even though he tells you throughout the movie
he's the worst person in the world.
That's right.
And McGroober is super upset that Shia's son is gay.
And you are his boyfriend, who is, for some reason,
locked in the whatever.
Calm down.
We are going to be ju- What is he doing here?
You guys remember Scott, right?
Yeah, I do.
Dad, Scott is merely a platonic friend.
Stop tickling me.
I don't remember ever being on a MacGruber set.
That's so crazy that I don't remember it
because I love MacGruber.
And then MacGruber's son insists that he is not gay
and to prove it, he's dating Vicky, played by Kristen Wiig.
And MacGruber doubts this and asks his son
to kiss his girlfriend.
What do I have to do to prove it to you?
Do you want me to kiss her?
Yeah, I do want to see you kiss her.
Fun. Scott, you be Vicky for a second.
No, no, no, no.
How'd that Vicky be Vicky?
Do you remember what happens when Shia kisses Vicky?
No, I don't remember it at all.
He throws up?
He throws up. They kiss,
and he throws up out of his mouth while they're kissing,
and then the explosion happens.
And it's so...
It's also a really funny thing,
because I feel like the gay panic move in comedy for so long
is that like a dude throws up when they kiss another dude.
Yeah.
And it was so great to turn the tables.
Be like a gay dude would throw up if he kisses a lady.
A lady, yeah.
And it's really great.
I gotta go back and watch those. I'm just like a listener right now.
Wait, you know what? You know what? I have a voice note from YORM that we should play
before you move on to too many things.
Okay.
Hey, YORM again.
There's that movie quality sound.
Talking about best look in the world.
I have to assume that there was a break
between the Dacker Girl show and this show, right?
Because you guys wouldn't go back to back with singing
that was as sub-par as this, I would assume.
Very curious about that.
It's kind of amazing actually to hear,
here I go, Andy's recent singing accomplishment
with this version of Andy singing, which is
almost abusive to the audience.
Although this one shocked me in watching it again because I feel like whenever Akiba would
leave to do something, I felt like his judgment on what we would make was very high.
Oh, this is fair. To then see when I wasn't there, seeing what Akiba was somehow cool with producing.
That's a fair hit.
Not the back of your nose or balls.
A fair hit.
Second one.
Like, wow.
It is so difficult to understand too.
There's so many deep Andy.
I mean, Jimmy Cap, who else in their right mind would write the lyrics? Your Jimmy
Cap is clowning like a newborn. Yeah, humans will understand that. Oh my God. Anyway, I love it.
Certainly made me miss you guys even in the past and miss our lives back then in a weird way.
Also, a little criticism.
A little criticism? This has all been criticism.
Because I felt like I had done a couple of things like my pants,
the video of my pants that we did,
total dick out,
blurred dick where you can just see it.
I felt like this was a real pull-up here.
You can totally tell that the cool-down part was just
Matt on top of that and just you guys- You can see tell that the cool-down part was just mad on top of that and just you guys
clearly didn't have the balls to, so to speak, do the bad shot.
Pantsless.
Anyway, one criticism.
There was a bunch of criticisms of that.
All right.
This is too long.
Bye.
So a couple things.
Yoram's criticism was that you guys didn't actually make the entire crew look at your
exposed genitals.
Correct.
And get sued.
Or to be fair, to do a better job of what we were faking.
You could see the dance belt underwear underneath the thing.
Modern SNL would have VFX help where they would just quickly clean up something and
then put the blur over it to make it at least more confusing.
Keev, I agree with what you're saying, but do you think that's what Yoram was saying?
It seemed like he was saying we didn't have the balls to...
Yoram was saying you didn't have the balls to do it. Yeah.
He wanted you to go full Monty in front of everybody.
Yeah.
I feel like we broke new ground, because that's the first time that Yoram has just,
I feel like, fully been in the right in one of his comments.
Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, Yoram took the high ground, and you can't argue with it.
No.
And he has a fair hit on me that I was saying when he was calling me out on it, which is,
it is true.
When I'm not there, sometimes I would see their shorts and I would just see the things
that in my opinion they had done quote unquote wrong.
You know, just like, oh, I see what you're getting at there, but that's not the way we
do it.
That's not the way I do it as us.
You did it a different way. And he's not wrong that at any moment when I had one of those criticisms,
he should have just shown this video and been like,
shut the fuck up.
Honestly, Keev, speaking personally, there's only one of those
that stands out in my mind that I actually remember you saying.
You had issues with it and I was like, but it felt like it did really good.
I would try to bite my tongue most of the time
and just silently kind of on my own be like,
oh, that's not how I would have done this.
But do you know which one I would say
was the one that I felt was successful
that you said you had a lot of issues with?
I'm gonna guess Sergio.
Yes.
Well, that's the only one that burned me
because it was so good and it could have been,
in my opinion, that night, I have no clue
what I was even referring to,
so I don't have anything specific.
Yeah, we'll get there, we'll get there.
It was because I was like, oh, this is an A-plus thing
being done, in my opinion, B-plus.
And I saw all the places where it could have been.
The other ones where, you know, it's somewhere,
it's just whatever you guys are doing.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that one, I was like, oh, this could have been,
I saw that it could have been just even better.
So that was why I cared more.
I'm excited to talk about that. Yeah.
You know what? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say,
if we're willing to, I feel like Ham Bone
will join us for that pot.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, I saw him the other week, too.
He was at that after party as well.
This is Jon Hamm.
And what a joy he is.
When we get to Sergio, that'll be fun to talk about.
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I just want to go back and say,
let me tell you about a look I know
is one of my favorite first lines.
That's nice.
I just think about it all the time.
Let me tell you about a look I know.
Because it's, you're stating the premise
and also revealing you're incapable of executing it.
Yeah, no one has ever said, let me tell you about a look.
Yeah.
There's another thing I hate.
But I also want to say I hate it.
And when I watched it with Shoemaker, he laughed at it.
So tell me if you would change it today, Andy.
OK.
I hate that it goes back to you in the locker room.
Oh, I hated it.
I'd rather it ended with you, like, up.
And I hate you selling out.
That's a bad look.
By the way, we just went through this
on Sushi Glory Hole, right, Keef?
Yeah.
We shot like five different versions of an ending
where it comes back into the pitch meeting
with Maya, Kenan, and Bowen,
and we had a bunch of really funny stuff, actually.
Yes, they were good ones, though,
because this is ending like a LaserCats.
To be fair, we'd only done, what, three LaserCats,
so it's okay.
Yeah. But we're more mature now and try three laser cats, so it's OK. Yeah.
But we're more mature now and try not to repeat ourselves
and aren't in the moment.
Yeah, now we're more mature.
That was best look in the world.
Now we do sushi glory holes.
Thank you. Yes, exactly.
We're mature now.
If we had done it back then, it would have been just cheap sushi.
Now it's a five-star omakase.
So we've matured.
We're a distinguished gentleman now.
Yes.
But yes, but to the point being we were like, it's over, let's get out. And that was the correct call.
Yes. It's not fun to have the last thing the audience sees be you agreeing it's bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, it just isn't worth it.
It's not worth it.
On Sushi Glory Hole, we just were like, let's just take the win and get out.
And on this, would you say we should have just taken the loss and gotten out?
It applies both ways.
Just take the L.
You're like a team that was down like 28-0,
and you're like, oh, now we're off to overtime.
And he's like, no.
Yeah.
I want to run through some things I enjoyed.
Monologue, Shia was promoting Crystal Skull.
Oh, wow.
And Daryl came out of Sean Connery
to complain about not being in this movie.
And he was also, there was a crazy set-up line.
Mr. Connery, I've already told you a million times
I had nothing to do with your face
being left off the last crusade lunchbox, okay?
I was four years old when that happened.
Well, you understand, my sir Gren.
It's just about the only box my face hasn't been on.
Ha ha ha ha!
Sheesh.
Sheesh to the sheesh. Wonderful.
That's fair. It's fair to some of his interviews
if you ever go back and watch some Sean Connery interviews.
Another great James Anderson sketch,
which was a, like, match game show.
And what I really liked about it is it wasn't the old match game,
but it was a lot of like those archetypes.
And Shia played like a Doug Henning magician,
and Fred plays a Charles Nelson Riley archetype.
And it's a match game theme,
and they say, please welcome your host.
And then the host doesn't come out and you hear a scream.
And then Hader comes out as basically
a Columbo-type character to say that the host has been murdered.
All kidding aside, a man's been murdered here.
I'm afraid I can't let any of you go until you answer
a couple of questions.
What were each of you doing at 2.30 this afternoon?
They all start writing their answers.
That's clever.
It's just an incredibly fun James Anderson sketch.
You know what else is in this Shia episode, Andy?
You were in it.
Yeah?
The first what?
Recurring sketch.
What?
The first Scared Straight.
Ah, Kenan.
Scared Straight, if I thought I could get Colin Jones to make a voice note.
Scared Straight is one of the most four- dimensional sketches that has ever been on SNL.
You are three kids, you, Hader, and Shia.
It was always you and Hader and the host,
are three kids who got in trouble.
Sudeikis is a police officer.
They have brought in a guy who's in prison.
It's part of the Scared Straight program,
which is an actual thing where they have felons come in
and talk about how bad prison is.
That's the premise.
That's a very straight premise.
On top of that, Keenan keeps saying,
this here is real,
but he keeps explaining plots of old movies.
Right?
Stealing cars?
No, they didn't actually steal a car.
Let me tell you something.
I've been there.
I stole a car. I stole two cars.
Pretty soon, I had to steal 50 cars in one night.
Otherwise, the Russians were gonna shoot my brother
dead in the streets!
Is that what you want?
A dead brother, because this here is real!
Isn't that the plot of Gone in 60 Seconds?
Whoo-hoo-hoo!
Now, that's already a crazy jump.
Then he'll charge over, get in your face,
try to make you guys break.
Really close, like really manhandling you guys.
Successful almost every time in getting someone, yeah.
Yeah.
Then he will basically say,
when you do this, they do that.
When you do that, you do this.
And it always ends in the most offensive,
what could happen to you in prison. Yeah.
And then Sudeikis has to tell him to chill,
because he's croc.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hey, hey!
McIntosh!
Lorenzo McIntosh.
Go back and watch him, and we're going to talk about him more
because a bunch of them happened.
It is really a testament to Kenan the performer
and Jost the writer,
because it is a fucking fever dream.
It is. And as it went longer and longer,
it also turned into there was a subplot
of every single one of them.
I've talked about this before, which is Sadakus trying
to get a solid break.
Yeah.
Sadakus would, and it was funny to watch this one back,
because he wasn't trying yet.
No, he was just doing the right thing
for a first time sketch of just playing his part
and making it work.
But as it wore on, there was another character
in the sketch by the end.
Yes.
It was the way he would jump on the desk
at the end of the sketch.
Oh, man, yeah.
And also just way too loose.
Way too loose.
Yes.
I remember how wide his legs would always
be when he'd sit on the desk, when he always, like,
his knees as far apart from each other as he could.
By the end of it, he would hop back onto the desk
from, like, three feet and really thump it.
It's nuts.
I remember when Sadegas left the show,
there was a dinner, and they had cut together
a highlight reel of Sadegas at the dinner that we showed.
And it was like the tag of that video
was the seven times he jumped on the desk
and how fucking funny it was.
I would like to see that.
The other thing, I'll get to it, but I'm going to say it now
because I think it's worth saying,
the hottest dress I was ever at was the Betty White show.
At some point, there was so much that was definitely in the show that
Lorne left and went back up to his office early,
because he knew he had the show and the last two sketches,
it didn't matter how well they went,
he had his show, then I went to his office.
In that scared straight,
Betty White was a felon with Kenan.
And I remember it was one of those things,
it was like a scene from a movie where I said to Lorne,
uh, Lorne, I think you might want to watch this.
Because while he was picking the show,
I was just watching the monitor and it was,
the audience was screaming.
Yeah, it destroyed.
It destroyed at a level I've never seen.
So Scared Straight, and again,
Colin Jost is one of our closest friends.
I love him so much.
I can't get a fucking voice note from him to save my life,
but I would love to get his bounce
on how they came up with Scared Straight.
If you get one about Scared Straight for him,
then you can just play the next Scared Straight.
It's true. That's a good call.
There was a really fun Vinny Videcchi in this sketch.
Oh, Seth Corner. I worked on this.
Seth Corner, you're all invited.
Seth Corner, it's happening right now.
Take it away, Seth.
You know, the Vinny Videcchi thing was he
only knew a few things about American culture,
and so Shy was promoting Crystal Skull.
And at one point Vinny, in a lot of joy, said, what does Indiana Jones hate?
And finally got Shy to say, snakes.
And Vinny said, Indiana Jones hates snakes.
Indiana Jones hates snakes.
And it was clearly a cue.
-"Ah, yes, yes, yes."
And then he moved on to the next thing,
and it's one of those executions
that makes me so happy to this day.
He moved on to the next question,
and then, like, a thousand rubber snakes dropped.
-"I can't remember. That's so fucking funny."
And then, also, in this episode,
these are the cameos of people
who were working on Vinnie Vadecichi. Alex Bae's Doug Abels,
weekend update writer at the time. Alex Bae is currently head writer on Late Night with Seth
Myers. John Solomon, and then it cut to Lorne Michaels dressed like the Don who dies in
Godfather 2. Like all white. And Lorne does the best like, uh... And I can't... It was another reminder
of how much fun we were having
and how much Lorne was having fun during this era.
Yeah.
And golden.
And golden.
We got Lorne to do a Videci. Really fun.
Now, was Mulaney hired yet?
I don't think we have Mulaney on the show yet.
I feel like we would have seen his name in the rundown.
I think we're coming close to the...
It's gonna be soon.
Wait, hold on.
Yeah, no, we're not at the end of this.
He begins the beginning of next season.
Got it.
I was gonna say, we're not quite to the end
of the strike season yet.
Yeah, fall next season.
Okay, cool.
I'm asking because, and we'll talk about it
when we get to the point where he was hired,
a lot of Bill's stuff really blossomed and flourished,
I think, once Mulaney was hired because they found each other.
A hundred percent.
But that Vinny Viddesci sounds like it was
a classic really good one that totally worked.
Oh, yeah. I think that Bill was rounding into shape.
It was like a perfect convergence of how good Bill was
getting and how Mulaney and Bill were a perfect match.
Yeah. Would you say, Seth, I have this memory of, like,
say, the Vincent Price ones really taking off
once Malaney got there.
Yeah. I mean, Bill has said in interviews
that one time we were writing it,
because I was working on this with Bill,
and there was a line for Liberace that Malaney pitched,
which was like,
go back to your windowless bars.
It was just like, oh, it's really good.
The specificity is going to be higher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So here's the thing,
it's not criterion,
but it is on Seth's list,
I would want best look in the world.
Wow.
Why? I just love everything about it.
Wait, what?
It stinks, but Andy, you make me so happy.
This is like a Shyamalanian twist.
I thought we were talking about a dud this whole time.
It stinks, and it makes me so happy.
And I'm just like, I want to be around people
who take a swing like that.
And it's like what Klein said, like it didn't work.
It wasn't lazy.
No, certainly not. Yeah.
You put too much in a too small a bag and the bag burst.
And we all had to fucking clean it up.
But it's there.
And I'm telling you, do a fucking Taylor's version of this song.
This is a rope a dope, man.
I love it. I love best look in the world.
You know why? Because I also feel like,
you know when, I don't know, they're scholars,
you're like, what are you studying?
They're like, just Finnegan's Wake.
You know, like, they're just like a one-text professor.
Yeah.
I still feel like there are things
within Best Look in the World that I have not uncovered.
Mm-hmm. It's dense.
It's the density of it.
It's not too late for flank steak thighs to catch on.
Flank steak thighs.
Liver spots, flank steak thighs.
It's audacious.
It's audacious.
Audacious?
Audacious.
You know what?
It's a little bit like, I feel like, let me tell you about a look I know, is if Babe Ruth
had called his shot and then just struck out on three pitches.
I think you're saying it's hopeful.
There's a hopefulness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
It's like they say in Little League when you whiff hard,
but you really go for it.
Good cut.
Oh, one more other thing.
I feel like a wig thing that at the time was a big hit
and kind of lost to history because nobody talks about Suze Orman anymore.
Oh, yeah, Suze, yeah.
Wig had a really funny, and it was again, it was Paula Pell.
And it was just talking about how to save money, because that was Suzy Orman
was, like, just saving money.
Don't waste your money on expensive self-tanners.
Do what I do.
Sit in a bathtub with 12 beef bouillon cubes overnight.
Whoo!
Number two, you need a hot stone massage?
Don't go to the parlor.
Sleather on some I-can't-believe-it's-not butter
and roll around on a gravel driveway.
Wig did a ton of those with Paula, didn't she?
A ton of those. But I feel like, again,
it almost speaks to how many good things
Wig has that nobody thinks about her, Susie Ehrman.
But it was a fucking rock star bit.
By the way, I mean, it probably goes without saying,
and it's not like we don't talk about
how incredible Wig was during all this,
but we could do a whole podcast just about Wig.
Yes. Every week. Every week. She was on fire. She had, like, endless characters. don't talk about how incredible Wig was during all this, but we could do a whole podcast just about Wig.
Yes, every week.
She was on fire, she had endless characters, it seemed like,
and was crushing impressions.
I think we could also say, and maybe our listeners don't know this,
the level of integrity Wig had for quality.
And so if she did something a second time,
it always had to have a new move in it.
I would like to play now because I feel like it'll be less fun if I say it. But I think about it all the time.
The way Wig Susie Orman said you could save money instead of buying maxi pads.
And finally, instead of buying fancy maxi pads, you can make your own.
Go to the dollar store, buy a 24 pack of baby socks and some double sided tape.
It's tough to not immediately say,
we think Paula wrote that.
Oh! Paula and Wig.
One of the many great combos of the era.
All right, look at us. Best look in the world.
Done and dusted.
Yeah. It's a relief to have it behind us.
All right, dudes, well, I love you both very much.
I love Yoruma, too.
Yeah, we love Yoruma, too. And we also love you.
Thanks.
Yeah, we've covered it all.
Look at us. All right, I love you guys.
Love you.
Love you, buddy. Bye.
Bye.