The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - The Curse

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

This week on The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast, we’re taking The Curse from Season 35, Episode 13, on January 30th, 2010. Akiva isn’t here this week, but we’ve got Jon Hamm himself to replace him! Jon is here to tell us all about how Andy talked him into playing a version of Timothy Cappello but with more goo. Fun fact: this was a solo outing for Andy, as Jorm was still working on MacGruber and Akiva was still back in L.A. working on a movie that was never made. But that didn’t stop Akiva from calling in to give his thoughts. Plus, they talk about some classic sketches from this classic Jon Hamm episode, including Closet Organizer, Game Time with Randy and Greg, Hamm & Bublé, Court Stenographer, and the unforgettable... Bar. The Curse | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNno63ZO2LwTrick-or-Treat (Jeff Montgomery): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV0CVX60WegA-Holes: Pitch Meeting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm6hMe_XFGc1920's Party (Don’t Make Me Sing) | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSnCjyoMNgsTales from the Darkside: The Movie (1990) | Scene: Lover's Vow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4hcT9dQC8&t=15sCloset Organizer| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK6WUKO6IKkGame Time With Randy And Greg: The Super Bowl And Greg Multiplies | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-SGJtUUu2gHamm & Bublé | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDKgo3jFwFECourt Stenographer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbq1L9VMfr0Bar | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4tPhGMbj4Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.Send us an email: [e-mail] us a voice note: https://www.speakpipe.com/thelonelyislandSend us stuff: P.O. Box 4024New York, NY 10185Photos and everything else can be found by following us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod Support our sponsors: CoopUpgrade your sleep Visit coopsleepgoods.com/ISLAND to get 20% off your first order. Thatʼs C-O-O-P sleep goods dot com slash ISLAND.ShopifySign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at SHOPIFY.COM/lonelyislandVuoriGet 20% off your FIRST purchase. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at vuori.com/ISLAND Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Seth, I know that this isn't the right time to bring this up, but will you actually come pick me up from the bisectomy when I get one? Like, I just want to said in front of those people. This isn't the right time to bring it up? I feel like this is the only place it's ever discussed. It feels like exactly the right time. Yeah, I mean, ideally we're not having a second conversation about this. After this. Listen, get it out of the way, I guess.

Well, I just want to wrap it up. I just want to put a, you know, button on it and fucking be done with it. Like, can you do it? Yeah, but like, when are you going to do it? I'll do it whenever is, like, good for you. Well, I just, my problem is, did it get harder? Because now I have to, like, carry you to the car or something. His penis?

I was going to say, I don't think it affects that. That did. It did seem like we were talking about my penis. I mean, historically, no. I'll figure it out with Kevin. I'll do it on an off week, or maybe that's worse, but we'll figure it out. So, Yorm, you've had a bad accident in your late 40s. Does it get harder?

Oh, yeah. All right, we're off and running. John Hamm is here. A lot more VAS talk than I was expecting. Oh, man. Like that there's just any at all? Well. Hey, John, if you're in town, you can come to.

Fine. I'm, you know, I've had to, I've had to enlist a lot of very unwilling participants to pick me up after my colonoscopies. Now, John, you always say you've got to give the Vass a lot of deference, right? You're always paying deference to the Vass. I give mad deference to the Vass. I mean, what's the difference between the deference? Is this something, Seth? That's deference between the difference of the deference.

Once it's cut, there's a difference. There's got to be differentiation when it comes to the best. I'm just very excited about just a couple days into the future when Keeva is like, so this is what it turns into? Fuck him. You know what? Fuck him. She's a wonderful shit show.

The Lonely Island and Seth Myers podcast show. So Akiva could be here today, but he said, please replace me with what he called a Keeve type. And then he gave us a little. list and then top of the list John Hamm was the only name on the list John Hamm. A selection of one. Welcome, John Hamm. Hi, guys. It's very exciting.

We are talking about John Hamm. This is your second time hosting, but it's your first short and it is... My first, long-time listener, first time attendee. Yes. Damn skip. At the peak is... You are a member of Quaid Army and Good Standing. I think we all know that. Hope. Very much. We get more text from this guy than most Quaid Army. Yeah. F-O-T-S. under the show.

I do check in quite a bit. I might have been the first guy to give you my own very solid nickname, which we may or may not want to share. Oh, yeah. Probably not. Probably not. Should we do a classic thing where we say it

and then Seth has them cut it out and everyone gets mad at him? Yeah, but then we... Like you did last time? Yeah. What the fun? Maybe hear the reaction. Just say it.

Say what it is. Well, I dubbed this group. Yeah, that's right. Leave it. a lot of extra letters it's always good to start the show with something that they can't hear John I don't know if this is your memory

but your first episode was an exceptionally good first episode for anybody hosting and yet I think this is better I was looking at that rundown Sethley and I was like this was a banger show this is peak golden era I mean I'm not gonna yeah not toot my own horn but my own saxophone

yeah foreshadowing Well, you know... That's another foreshadowing is also another word for a vasectomy. Vasectomy. I was going to sign. Thank you.

Force crotery. Be there, be square, Seth. Yeah, the reason why the first one stood out so significantly to me... Foreshadowing is when you're interting at a bris. I was going to say, the vasectomy, you have to be uncircumcised.

Let me just hang out here by you, Rabbi. Sorry, I just want to foreshadow a little bit. Yeah, yeah. I was foreshadowing. I was just seeing how it's done. It's amazing. You've got to get a certain number of hours. It's like your pilot's license.

Yeah. Everybody has a first time. First day at school. Have you guys been to one of those? Briss school. Have I been to a Briss? How many Brisses have you guys been to one? I'd been to two.

Two boys. I think I must have had one performed on me, although they probably didn't call it a Brith. Right. Oh, yeah, I definitely attended my own. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that's the best one to attend. But obviously the reason it was so, it stood out to me so much,

was because Polar had a baby the first time I hosted. So that was its own kind of very special episode. And then... What you famously referred to as stealing your thunder. Very, very clearly. Yeah, very vocal about that. Got an extra update piece out of it. Elizabeth Moss had to come in.

They cut by Bronx Beat. There's a lot going on there. The hell. Puller's such a shit stack. DeHale. Defend yourself, Puller. To heal. I remember you loudly saying to Lauren,

like, they'd still do Bronx Beat if Betty was sick. Yeah. And you just thought it should have been a one-woman Bronx beat. It's a one-on-one. Just making a one-on-one. Oh, she couldn't be here. But, yeah, also, I mean, again, your first show was great. It's a Vincent Price.

It's a Jeff Montgomery. It's an A-Holes. So, like, you would think, based on that, tough to be. Yeah, we had some home runs on the first one for sure. But as you said, man, so many home run hitters in the cast, I just, anything that was coming back was clearly something that already worked not only with the audience, but you could kind of plug and play with people that were really having fun with it.

So, for example, yeah, Rockspeed being one of them, unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to do. I think they did it later with, Jim Hull maybe? I can't remember. Yeah, Jake, dead one. Yeah, somebody else came back and did that one. But yeah, I mean, the A-hole's like, it was so, it was so great.

It was just so great. There was just such a deep bench for people to roll through and hit the ball out of the park. But, like, I look through this. I feel like across the board almost everybody has a perfect sort of representation of what their best version of a sketch is in this show. Wait, give some examples. Are you, you're like a... All right, so Whig, off the top, you have Whig doing Don't Make Me Sing,

which is literally an all-time great sketch that I have re-watched recently independent of this podcast. Yep, me too. I do still quote it. Me too. I mean, the premise of Don't Make Me Sing is it's a sort of like Roaring 20s type dinner party. Everybody's asking John to play piano. And then just sort of from the back of the room, Wig says,

don't make me sing. and it's this really the game is very simple which is she keeps saying don't make me sing even though no one has asked you and it works really well everybody's on board

do you want to sing no I couldn't possibly no no no no no everyone's making me everyone's making me don't make me sing and they then you I can't remember what it is

like somebody says can you play Rhapsody in blue and she goes old Bill Bailey so she very much only knows how to sing old Bill Bailey fortunately you is her company does know how to play it.

And then the game, which, again, it was a fun enough game that she was like, don't make me sing, is that she's also terrible singing. She won't, she can't come in. There's no rhythm and can't come in on the seat. She keeps missing the inn. Yes. And it's a really...

And then gets frustrated and takes it out on everybody else. Because they ruined it. You're making me sing. I feel like a lot of wig characters are like unofficially, and some officially are like a person's bummer aunt. Yeah. For sure. Surprise.

Yeah. This one is the fun thing It's a bummer aunt move But she has this wonderful voice Don't make you sing And then Was that first up? That was early

I think that was the first sketch Out of the monologue Was it the first don't make me sing? I think it was the only Don't mean you sing Well then it was That was a one and done Yeah

Yeah so technically you were right Time for me to spike the football There's a great moment Where she's having trouble coming in And uh And sing Sing on the one and the one.

Do you need a signal? Just nod when you need me to come in. Oh, hello. You missed it. She immediately forgets the nod. She thinks you're like flirting with her. Hello. Also then everybody's mad.

Finally, they just ask you to play, you know. Some free-form jazz, yeah, I believe. Doodily, do you remember what she says when you start playing free-form jazz? Oh, don't make me dance. Yeah, don't make me dance. An escalation. Ham, were you a part of the writing process with this one with Sublette Anderson?

Do you remember? No. So coming back the second time, I was first of all, thrilled. And so cocky, right? Just fucking like. I will say, I was definitely not cocky, but I definitely felt like I was very cognizant of what was to be expected. Much more so from the first time, which was utterly unaware. And so I was more excited than nervous.

So I was stoked Because again, by this point I kind of knew almost everybody I knew some people Cohen in the first time But I knew most of you guys Much more after This was almost a year later

Because I did the Halloween episode And this was like Valentine's Day Or something like that was definitely cool You also knew us from like stopping by the show I felt like there was this real crossover Between Mad Men and the show For sure And I remember coming in to see you guys

In your office I remember it was just so cold And you guys were all sick well yeah and this is like a pre-COVID idea of people being sick and it's like let's just hang out in a closed room together guys because we're all super sick yeah and you guys being really tired and really sick and like yeah this one idea because I didn't get to do the short the first time I hosted it was Roz Trent and uh you guys were like we have this one idea it's like the Kool-Aid man but you're Tim Capelli from the lost boys and I was like that's really funny you're never

going to do that, but I'll do it if you guys want. Ha ha. See you never, because you're never going to do it. And then literally, like, two days later, you're like, well, here's the sacks. And I was like, uh-oh. Here's your outfit. All right, wait. So first of all, I do want to say, it's January 30th. So you host an October of

08, now this is January 30th of 2010. So it's been about 16 months. Okay. But that is, when I think about a January 30th show, that is where everybody is sick. A hundred percent. A disaster time to come through and host the show. It was so cold.

So if we're going to get into the short, talk about this Lost Boys character, which is not like the most iconic character, but like Yoram and Andy, like, was this a thing that you talked about? Let me ask a question. It is for a certain people, I feel like. Let me ask some prelim questions. I know Keeve wasn't there. Oh, my God. John has a picture of him framed on his wall. Well, wait, is it from?

Who signed for you? The signed by the guy. Oh, my God. And it says, the inscription says, thank you for giving me a. a second career. Oh, my God. What a dream. That's wonderful.

That's like why you do art, you know? One of the key grips that I worked with on a movie was his cousin. And he said, I've got to give you this picture that my cousin promised if I ever met you, I would give you a picture. I don't use this phrase often, but that fucking rocks. Well, Andy, why don't you explain what the reference is a little bit? Well, first off, Keeve was not here this week. Were you there? And I don't know if I was either because...

I don't think you were, because this is my recollection. Yeah. You are the one who showed this to me. I had seen Lost Boys when I was a kid. Yeah. But, shockingly, one of the things I didn't remember vividly was Tim shredding on Sacks in the concert scene. So you were obsessed with it.

I want to give... It's a little bit blinking, you miss it. Yeah. I want to give you the credit for bringing it to my attention. I don't know if it's blinking you miss it. You guys got to watch Lost Boys again. I mean, if you blink really... Like, if you blink like you blink for like three or four.

seconds. He's a super slow moment. He is rocking out. So I just want to, I'm going to briefly just read the Tim Capello, a Wikipedia overview. Tim Capello, also credited as Timmy Capello, is an American multi-instrumentalist composer and vocalist. He is primarily known for his saxophone work supporting Tina Turner in the 80s and 90s, as well

as for his musical performance in the 1987 vampire film The Lost Boys. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you can definitely tell it's a famous person because you're like, would you stay on this as long as you are in this particular film? Because it's not really about a saxophonist. It's not remotely about a saxophonist.

You're right. You're right. When you walked out of Lost Boys, you were like, I thought the balance between vampire and that saxophone guy was good. Yeah. I felt like it was mostly not about a saxophone. That was probably the best vampire saxophone movie

I ever saw. I can't remember who was more obsessed with it. Was it Akiva or, like, because, you know, we all lived together, and I feel like these were things that got. These were, like, early viral moments from things. You know what I mean? Like, without the internet, that didn't actually happen. I can see that. Like, it's definitely something that you're like, this is way, way too long of a cutaway to the grinding, leather-clad, shirtless crotch.

Yeah. Of this dude wailing on a sax. Crushing. In a concert scene. Yeah. Like thrusting and busted. And really, really thrust. sting and gyrating.

Yeah, and oiled up and looking fucking... Yeah, selling it. Proper. Well, but I also feel like in a teen witch kind of way, like the rap scene from Teen Witch, like, those are also things that Keeve got pretty obsessed with as well. So I'm not sure what, like... Well, Teen Witch was me because I was...

Oh, that was you. It was on cable. The one of the cable channels I had growing up, Teen Witch was on over and over, and me and my sister would do... I feel like that's what kind of constituted virality in that certain time in the late 90s was if it was on Nickelodeon or some cable channel that you had

on heavy rotation, then you were going to pick out the important parts. Yes. Me and my sister would do top that with each other and laugh. Fair enough. And if you were particularly sarcastic kids watching these things, you'd be like, oh my God, what was that? What was that saxophone is doing? I mean, especially growing up in the bay and being super in a rap and being like, what is this?

But noticing Tim Capello in Lost Boys, like this was an early way to signal people that you sort of had like comedy nerd cred like that you knew the reference i had certainly never heard heard of it i knew lost boys but it did not stand out to me because i had only seen it again i only knew it because yorm had showed it to us and we were like that's fucking incredible okay but to to marry that with the kool-aid man and then slather it with a with a stephen king thinner story yeah well it was actually threefold because the structure of it is based on an old I want to say Twilight Zone episode.

Sounds right. Ooh, classy. That sounds classy, bro. Way better than me. Which is a guy, I forget the actual real thing. It's basically like a guy, this might have been a 90s Twilight Zone reboot or something. That's classic. Hit us in the titus.

Someone out there is definitely going to know what I'm talking about. It's ringing a bell for me. Where a guy is, like, visited by a gargoyle or something. Oh, right, yes. There's, like, a murderer. He accidentally kills someone, and a gargoyle from his building turns real. and tells him he'll get away with it. It's a movie, and that stars Ray Don Chong,

so I can look it up. No, it was an episode, I told. No, no, no. I know what it is. Hold on. Keep going. All right. I'm pretty sure that Andy's right.

Quest for fire? Keep going. Keep going. Oh, it might be in the Twilight Zone movie, and it's one of a bunch of vignettes? I don't know. Yes. All right, while you guys Google,

I'm going to bring in one more bizarre coincidence that has to do with Tim Capello. So at the time, I had my first dog, and over the course of my dog's life, lovely dog, lived for me for 15 years, not to bring up dead dogs. But my dog had to be put down and... Brisbane! Pia, pia, pia, pia, pia, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, oh. Why is his name? John, I'm so sorry for your loss.

My dog, Cora, actually, we didn't have to put her down. She ended up dying in her sleep, but at a certain point, we had to, you know, kind of wrap her up and take her away to get cremated and all the other stuff. So we had a end-of-life. kind of veterinarian that had been with her and given her all this like acupuncture and stuff over the course of her of her later part of her life while this woman is taking my dog who passed away peacefully in the night wrapping her up kind of and putting her in a way to take away to the place she goes hey you know what i used to be a roadie for tim capella well i was like wait what she goes yeah i was uh in my in my previous career

I was like a roadie for Tina Turner and Journey and all these guys I'd be on the road with them and Timmy Capello was one of the guys that he's a really nice guy anyway, you know, and I'm like, there's a lot of emotions going on in my head right now but nostalgia wasn't, I didn't think it was going to be one of them. You're like, you're shell-chalked. Hey, you sat about your dog?

You want to think about something fun? Yeah, how about this? All right, I'm right. It was Tales from the Dark Side, the movie. Really? Yes, I do remember that. I knew that was ringing. And I went to see this on a date, and it's a lover's vow.

It was three vignette stories. Preston is a struggling artist. He lives in a studio with a skylight, through which a large stone gargoy on a neighboring building peers down. Preston's agent calls asking him at a bar a few blocks away. Along the way, Preston stops to relieve himself at a back alley when his friend sees and shoots at a gargoyle monster. The creature attacks, severing his hand, and then decapitating him.

Terrified Preston tries to run away, but the creature corners him and speaks, agreeing to spare his life if he swears never to reveal what he's seen right yes and then his life goes on as normal he meets a woman he falls in love he has kids and then he fucks up at the end and tells her what he saw and she goes no and like her skin and stuff falls off and she's the gargoyle and then you pan over and their two kids are little gargoyle kids it's so fucking heavy and scary anyway this is not one for one with that, but this and like other Twilight Zoni things, this structure of someone's an asshole, they get a curse put on them, they're like, yeah, right, and then it starts coming to pass. And so the idea here was, what if that curse was the saxophone guy from Lost Boys

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Okay, so it's much longer than anyone I think we ever did before or after. But that said, it does get to the punch pretty quick. Again, you guys are so efficient. Well, here's the thing, though. Let's give credit where credits do here, because this is predominantly Chrysler and Andy, I don't remember this at all either. And I'm looking at the date of this. And I'm like, oh, we were deep in the edit of McGuber,

which was down the street at the Brill Building, which is another like SNL offices. Yeah, I remember it was the first time I met Kreissel. Yeah, I think it was just me and Jonathan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, you know, I mean, I know Keeve has his own thoughts on this short as well that we'll get to. He sent in a voice note.

I haven't, but I haven't listened to his voice note. I also will say, I have not watched the curse, I don't think, since it aired. I'm very excited to watch this one with you, Turkey. Oh, so you haven't even watched it to get ready for this. No, I intentionally didn't because I want to come in, like, truly having, like, a fresh look at it. Yeah, I'm very, I'm very excited. Did you watch it at him?

I've seen it, yeah, on multiple cases. I haven't watched it specifically for this, but I've seen it probably in the last six months. Because you have it, like, geared up and, like, ready to show to people, right? Anytime you do a new job, you're like, oh, take out what I did. Every time I see it, it makes me laugh. Also, look, old structure Myers. I mean, I love how the pieces fit together in this thing. You like that.

Oh, I remember when it ended having a real, my God, they've done it. Well, let's get to the ending after we watch because I do want to talk about how that felt. Also, one comment I feel like I have to read after Yorm established that he and Kiev weren't there. And of course, they were not there for last week short as well, Lasagat Cats 5. One of the Quaid Army wrote in, I thought you guys might be interesting. and how many times Keever, Yoram mentioned how many times they weren't there this week. So I listened to the pod twice and double-checked my work. They each said it one million times.

I really like our fans. And I do think, I just want Quaid Army to know, I think one of the reasons that Yoram and Keeve point out why they weren't there is to get out of the way of any credit they might catch. Yes. They're actually doing it for the most noble. It comes. That's how it feels to me. Yes, it comes from a place of sort of an obscene ability.

But when you hear Keeves' voice note, which I did listen to, he's got some critiques. Oh, yeah. And he had them. I don't know of that. He had them on Sunday to me. And I distinctly remember watching this one and not having nearly the critiques. I'll be curious to see what he said his voice notes. It's one of the only times ever with Kiever, I was like, come on, man.

Yeah, seriously. Like, ah, come down. He was picking some nits, really. He wasn't there. Oh, very interesting. All right. Should I share a screen and you guys tell me when to stop? Yes, please, Seth.

They also have the audience response sometimes in the audio of these, right? Because I remember it playing really hot. Yeah, we'll be hearing that. So we're going to put that theory to the test, Hammer. Good music so far. I immediately like the music. Uh-huh. Yeah.

No, I hear what you're saying, Bradley. But if she wants to play on the big week, she's going to have to get her hands dirty. You, you break the secret talisman. Maybe you shouldn't have left it lying in the street. You pay me. Kiss my ass. Did you guys write that? Sergio.

I curse you. Nice try, buddy. Anyways, all right. I mean, we've established everything we need right there. Yeah. It's a real movie. We know why it's called the curse. Yeah.

And not Sergio. We get Sergio out there. We think this is in the 80s, yeah? 90s? We think based on the car and your look. Uh-huh. This guy is, it definitely related to the dude you played in Hero song. Uh-huh.

Yes, for sure. Same suit, similar. But everything about your look, again, you know, early digital shorts, you did not have the full wardrobe department behind you. They absolutely murder it both with your look and Fred's look. Yeah. Also, the sacred talism is like just a. dream catcher. Yeah, to dream catcher.

Yeah, it's a cool dream catcher. I like, I like Andy when your hair is blown dry because it really does, it gets a lot of loft. Yeah. It does. You can see who I would have been in New York in the 80s. For sure. But everything, again, we're 41 seconds in, and that is with the digital short title card, and we know everything we need to know.

Fred committed to the bit, even as the shot plays off of him, too. Well, Ham, I don't know if Fred improv the curse. fake language, but I think he probably did. I think he probably did. I'm guessing, yeah. Another Fred character that is, of course, unlike every, like Snowflake characters from Fred. By that, I mean, none are exactly alike.

Not exactly alike. Can I comment on one thing that I think Akiba's already going to have had a problem with is the jump cut push-in as we pull back and then there's a push-in on you? Like, there's a jump to a course. Didn't you say you already listened to his voice note? No, I don't think he mentions that in the voice. No, but like, but I'm sure, because I remember him being like, we would never do that. That's just not what we do.

And I was like, oh, man. It's not part of our visual vocabulary. Yeah. I do want to just drill down on how quickly, Andy found the logic problem of Yoram saying, I already listened to it. And then Yoram, I wonder if this is going to be in it. You're rubbing off on himself. That's true.

I, like, I, Ham, I blame a lot of stuff on this pod now of my drug use that because I'm on a lot of brain killers because of my, yeah. It works pretty good. Oh, um, since I have. that. Somebody said, uh, I love that Yorma and my 15-pound terrier are on the same medication. By the way, everybody talks about how they're dogs on this. I gave my dog Gabba Penton the other day. Yeah, first of all, I take more of it than a dog. All right? Is that good?

I don't know. My dog's 95 pounds. He's probably on the similar dose. I probably take double that. Is your dog taking it because it fell off a ladder? Oh, all right. Just keep going. Press the plate. Jesus. All right, guys, I know numbers are down, but if we just apply this system, I promise you, we're going to see Revenue Skyrocket. Can we pause? I think this is the exact same setup as like a boss.

Yeah, no, it really does. And hair-wise, too. Same hair, basically the same suit. It's also, like, the same stock footage is in, like, roughly, like, 90% of the office. I notice it's just ice cream flavors on the spreadsheet thing behind you. Oh, is it? Yeah, chocolate, Rocky,

road, strawberry, vanilla. That's what this guy does. He's an ice cream guy. We stick to the process. If you want to know how you keep one of these moving, it's that he says things like, tell her if she wants to be in the big league, she's got to learn how to play ball. And also, I know numbers are down. She's got to get her hands dirty.

Oh, he's got a hand to do. Yeah. A little nod from that lady The lady's like it Guys Marcy, Steve All right A lot happened

Yeah Not what you're If you didn't know what this was about I'm guessing that's not what you were guessing Was gonna happen The audience certainly didn't really know what was going on They're not with it They're not with it yet

I think there was a bit of a laugh, no? A titter? There's a bit of a laugh, but it's the bill. I'm only saying, like, I want to get full credit for how it builds in both how the beats are better and the storytelling gets very sticky. They're not quite sure what they're laughing at yet, other than it is absurd. The audience, I feel like, is treating it kind of like the people around that conference room table were, which they're kind of like looking like what's happening? Yeah. Okay.

Oh, I'm going to get up and start dancing now. Yeah. Pretty positive. Also, one woman and one man got up to dance. No, you know. Yeah, it wasn't just that the ladies were into it. There's some pretty good cutaways of your bod, too. We also don't quite know it's a horror movie yet because nothing really horrific has happened.

Even you weren't that scared, Andy. Correct. Just a little confused. Confused, yeah. Like, what the hell? Guy just burst through the wall. Now, I will say, I want to remind everybody that when we're shooting these things, we're on some. Some, what are we on, like, ninth floor, some weird 60.

We're building these stages in some random place. It's probably, you know, two in the morning, and it's freezing cold. Whatever the place is, we're shooting these, on these stages. It's so cold. Yes. And I'm covered in gel. Yes. Yeah, you are.

And I'm blowing out, but I can't blow out because I have to puff out my cheeks and there's no read in that saxophone. Yeah. So I'm basically holding my. breath and on more than one occasion I almost passed out. Yeah, you're saying acting is hard, right? Like, I mean don't forget, we're all sick.

And everyone's sick. Everyone's sick. This is pre-COVID, but people still get sick. All right, let's keep going. Yeah, it was crazy. Sorry, Seth, can we stop? That was a big laugh at the end of that first Sergio. You're right, take it back. I'm a pause and a lot. Again, I'm a huge fan of it, Andy.

All right, sorry. I'm sorry. Let's play it. All right, let's play. Sets you all. So does you just hang through the wall? Yeah, it was crazy. There you go. You look dazzling. Dazzling.

Jenny. The wind is back. The best use of Lenny Piggott ever. This might be some of my favorite dancing ever done on the show. Jenny going crazy. That's like, she looks like a car salesman balloon. guy. Yeah.

It's very good, very nice work with what she's given by Jenny Slate in this short. Also, that moves pretty fast, that beat. Totally. Yeah.

Now it's gaining momentum. That's what helped with that one. Now we are in. If you want to know it's Steve Higgins' office looks like, everybody, on 17. We are in it right now.

It is Sadecas as a therapist and Andy on a couch. We know right away. This is therapist stuff. And here we go. Sergio. I know it sounds crazy, but I'm starting to genuinely believe

I've been cursed by a homeless man. How do you mean? Well, I broke this trinket, and now every time I feel a gust of wind, this crazy, sexy sax guy comes bursting through the wall. So these are daydreams? No, I think it's actually happening. Oh, no.

Oh, no, not again. Oh, sorry. There's a little stuffy in here, I thought to give the window a crack. Huh, no problem. So where a world? I'd forgotten about both of them. Really good stretch, Ham, that, like, your stretch over Andy's face to, like, really get your crotch in there is fucking wonderful.

That is the thing explodes and becomes Sergio. It explodes into Sergio. And then Jenny is there somehow again. That crotch in the face move is to be repeated on the hundredth. Correct. Yes. I remember, the bebe got a face full of crotch. Yeah.

The nice thing about how this is structured is we have hit Rule of Threes. So I think that kind of your guards down a little bit now. And also, Kuleman, Kool-A-Man, and then Siddakes explodes. Very nice height in there. Jenny comes back from Beat 2 to join the dancing in Beat 3. And now we're back, we're fully into plot right now, which you know I like. It's got the drive and momentum of a 70s,

thriller at this point. Yeah. It's the parallax view. Yes. Can I also mention that just because we did have a different director and Chrysle was really good at doing his own effects and I remember actually being kind of excited that I was like, oh, these are kind of new stupid effects. But he was really good at actually like doing his own.

I mean, did a shitload of like after effects on. But even this, look at this shot right here. This is a little Dutch angle. It's, you know, it's got a lot of something else going on. Velocity to it. It's a, dare I say, hitching. Cacchakian. Yeah, you can say it.

It's like I said, the velocity is ramping up. All right, here we go. No saxophone. No saxophone. You. Please, you have to make it stop. You made your choice. You would not pay.

I'll pay anything. Please. Just lift the curse. All right. I will help you. Take this. Mend it. Hang it over your bed.

Keep it safe. It will protect you from the curse forever. I will. I will. Thank you. Thank you. Five years later. That was great.

All right. The fact that that happened simultaneously, as was great. Really good forward moment. Literally five years later because you're wearing glasses. Yeah, totally different guy. He's nice now. Yeah. You're nice.

Sweater vest. You don't swoop your hair back. anymore. Rumpled hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wig is your wife. You didn't end up with Jenny. I think we're all happy about that. Yeah, it worked out. Based on how she reacted to Sergio,

Jenny was not the one for you. Yeah, I think that's right. Clearly, it was ready to pitch you over the side. And again, I don't think anybody is ahead of this at this point in the audience. No. Which is really joyful. Hey, just hang on, honey. You're doing great.

Nurse, ready to birthing room. That's it. You're doing great. Just hang in there. I love you. I love you too. Oh, and by the way, um, um, earlier today I accidentally knocked your good luck trinket out of the floor. I didn't know that it fell and I stepped on it really, really hard and I broke it. So I don't remember... No!

Go! Say, come, now just pull. Go! Here it comes! I think that you just have more grease on you now. It's fucking great. By the way, 3.45, it's really not that long. No, it's not that long.

The storytelling that you pack in. I remembered it being much longer. You think it's long because you can't believe it's so much story. Genuine, it's cutting very fast. Well, that's what I said. You guys are tremendous at the economy of storytelling. You get right to the next B. the next beat and the pace and the internal velocity ramp up.

I mean, it really does start kind of deliberate. You get all the story like Seth said you want in 40 seconds, and then it just runs. So the really nice thing is she tells you she broke your good luck thing. Then she holds it up because, of course, she's delivering a baby, but she also brought it with her. She had to pull it out and she brought it with her. She had it in her pocket. Then we hear the sound cue. The wind starts going through Andy's hair.

Again, Andy's the only person, the only character in the scene who knows something's about to happen. You're looking around. At the walls. We all are at the walls. Because that's usually where he comes from. Unless he explodes a therapist. And instead, he comes out from between Wiggs' legs, just, like, covered and just, I don't know. Placenta.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, he's just, even sexier. But it's clear. It's just clear gel. Clear gel. And then what I like is everybody reacts to the way they would. Yeah.

In the way the first beat, like, everybody's like, oh, what's going on here? Now it's a full fucking horror movie. It's a horror movie. Whig passes out, haters screams, and then we have one of my favorite Andy faces.

I mean, just. Horse mouth open sob. Yeah, horse mouth open sob is a very good way. HMOS. Not the first and not the last.

You're very good at naming your own facial. Kreitzel came over he was like, can you give me a little more horse mouth open sob? And you're like, I got you.

Can I? You want a wide angle lens? Let's fucking dance. You want 20% more? What do you want? This was one of, of the places though where I was really really really cold

yeah I should say so I remember you saying it at the time yeah let's let's quick sticks on this one because I'm freezing I'm so cold right now I mean it was a fucking perfect perfect take I just went to jump in real quick because it's like such a cool short and it's so

funny like how much John wants to hammer home how cold he was I relate to this if we were talking about certain things I've done I'd have to point out how cold I was Yeah, which is many times, Seth, as you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I got it, yeah. So I remember being on the floor watching this air and being like, this is going pretty good.

And then when it got to that last scene in the delivery room and he comes out, I remember being like, oh, we did good. Because the audience goes fucking insane on that moment. And I remember being like, oh, I'm so happy that we were able to do one that got this level of a reaction. Yes. Where did it air, Seth, in the rundown? High.

Early. It was like kind of the early. Yeah, it was the first pre-tap. It was the Lauren likes it. Digital Shorts. Yeah. Seth. I'm just saying, we know the difference.

Yeah. I also just want to give credit to how nice a piece of writing it is that John buttoned each beat by saying Sergio to the camera. It's a funny way for every beat to end, and it's the perfect ending for the whole piece. Yeah, it's a great out. It took me a long time to get the timing right of that, too, because you guys were always like, You've got to look and say it. And I was always saying it when I was looking at it. I wasn't doing it right.

Well, you were so cold. You were so cold and you were out of breath. I was so cold, I couldn't do it. I just wasn't getting it right. And I get frustrated when I don't get anything right on like the third take. I'm like, God, am I stupid? Like, what is this? Why am I not doing it right?

Especially if you're covered in slime. I have no memory of that, John, but you did nail it whenever, whatever. Yeah, they only used the good ones. So thank God. Yeah, so this came right out of a domain. make me sing. Oh, wow. So no commercial break. And that's just, you know, look, you can't have a better act in S&L history than don't make me sing into the curse. I think you could, but it's still it's a good. It's a good one. I'm sorry, that's impeachably great. You can't, you can have one's as

good, but I don't think you can have a better act. Maybe unimpeachably great, but okay. Yeah, it's impeachable. It's got some peach on it. I have a question for both ham and Andy, and this is a actor question. Because obviously, you guys have. been in the edits, you've been in edit rooms, especially you, Andy, obviously, but you at him as well. I got a DJA car. Do you ever, because you know how much fucking time an editor is going to be looking at your face, whether it's a movie or TV show, do you ever look at the camera and

actually say anything? Like Tiffany had a, she used to do this thing where she would turn to the camera and just go, hey, Mr. Editor, make me look good. But do you guys ever talk to the editor because you know they're going to be looking at your face? so glad that that question had a name drop in the middle of it. No, probably.

Secondly, yes. But more like on something like Brooklyn 9-9 where I knew them actually. Yeah. So, and then I would be like, sorry, Doug. Would you say like, uh, don't use that? I would be like, I'm so sorry, Courtney. Right. Like if I was fucking up or something.

Like, yeah. Yeah. Or I'd be like, definitely use that take. Courtney, you have to use that. Oh, my God. Courtney! Courtney! If you don't use that take, I'll know and I'll be so pissed and I'll come down to your bungalow. It's a double star. Underline, underline, underline.

No, I've never done that. I've never been, like, I guess, confident enough to have that conversation. Oh, yeah. Well, just know that people look at your face for, like, I guess you should do that. Fucking months on end. You heard it here first, everyone. I, in one small way, am more confident than John Hamm.

See, there you go. Let's hear the voice on. All right, let's do it. What's up, guys? It's Akiva. Quaid Army, big fan. Love the pod. John Hamm, so sorry to miss you.

Your Fletch is the best Fletch. Okay, let's get into this. So I'm in L.A. I'm working on writing with Spicer, Winkler, and Jonah Hill. And I am having the weird experience of seeing shorts that I have nothing to do with being on TV for the first time. So it just feels a little weird to me. And this one is arguably the best one that you guys did without me.

And it's really good. Okay. And it's very funny. A feeling a buck coming. Starting Puzzman. And with all. all that said, I remember having some issues with the filmmaking, and I love Chryssel, but, and Andy remembers it, as I'm sure he's talked about already or is about to, and I'm sure

I didn't behave the way you should, which would just be unbridled positivity and keep my opinions to myself, but I apparently couldn't help myself. And for that, I apologize. And I just rewatched it expecting not to be able to know what bothered me. But it actually was glaringly obvious. And it's all nitpicky filmmaking stuff. It is not about the comedy or the performances or that it plays and is great. That's nice. Okay.

At one minute and three seconds in, you jump the eyeline. So this is, Sergio has just broken through the wall of the business room, the boardroom. And Andy is in wide and he looks right to left where the smoke cloud is coming in to the foreground. then it goes to Andy's close up and now he's looking left to right then it cuts back to Sergio and Sergio's on the far right of the frame which just even further disorients me

then when it cuts to the board members they're looking in the right direction ish but it's vague rather than like cleanly set up where you know where everybody is in the geography like in let's look at like in our Rain Wilson business meeting one or something where you know exactly where the things are and so I just found it distracted

because I'm a stickler for eyelines working. Then, at the end of it, Andy's like, Marcy, Steve, and it's back to the correct eye line there. So at this point, I just know we're not in control. This wasn't a choice. Sometimes people break the island on purpose to disorient you in like a horror way or in a, I don't know,

Requium for a dream or something. I don't know, but this is not on purpose. So this is, we're now... How does he know? We're in uncharted water here. We, these are not reliable filmmakers. These people don't know what they're doing. that's what I know.

Then in the Jenny Slate date scene, again, we've set up the wine-pouring shot on one side of the scene, setting up that that's the side we're on, and that's where the eye line will be. Then when Sergio comes in through the wall, that's fine. It's the two-shot. He goes from the back, kind of resetting what side we might be on. But then it goes to the two-shot of you and Jenny were on the other side, totally disorienting me. Then Jenny gets up, exits frame left, and when she returns, she enters the same frame left on the reverse of Sergio, making it seem like she's jumped over

to the other side of Sergio which is just there's no excuse for this this is not on purpose this is just sloppy and wrong okay and then my last thing I'll just leave a pause here for me to curse to be mad at me the reason I disagree with this is because

there's fantasy involved that's the reason I yes okay that's fair it's a good sketch again like I said give us your last one Kiev in your voice now then the color correction so the cameras at that time and sometimes the Alexa still does

this, or sometimes, maybe it was the red, I forget. I think it was the red. But they gave everything kind of this yellow jaundiced look, where everything's washed out and kind of has this beige over it, that I recognize as very flat. And you have to do a little work in color correction to pull that away to get rid of that shit so that it looks like a finished piece of work. This just looks like raw footage to me. So it kind of looked unfinished and amateur. Anyways, love you, Chrysell. but... Yeah.

Shots fire. Come on. And I know the quads are going to agree with me on this one because there was one comment on the last video that said, I like it when Keev Nerds out. So take that. Anyways, love you guys.

Love the pod. Love everything you do. Later, Arnold. Later, Quillard. Wait, you're not allowed to do that. No, you want to end the show there. Which is a great way to end it. But here's the reason that that voice note gives me a little bit of PTSD

is because I remember while I was trying to edit McGruber keep calling me and complaining and being like, what are you doing? You've got to get over there. And like being very upset that I wasn't taking charge. After seeing the Cursair? No, this was like during the week. He was really nervous about it. And then I remember him like, we were sending him edits as it was going.

And he was like upset. I can't remember how it worked. But like I just remember the feeling of like guilt of like, I gotta edit this movie and he was like What do you do? Here's what I'll say It's all born

Keeve I love you We love you Yes of course Obviously that's And you're right Of course Well I don't know We need Christel to chime in

Honestly because there's an art It seemed like his problem Was consistent In terms of breaking the line That could have been a choice That Christo was making I don't know that it was I agree with that

It was only like One in the Jenny Slate beat That I was like Yeah yeah yeah But to me like the moment A guy comes through the wall Like I'm like I'm fine

Yeah It kind of goes on the way. Now it's like, are we now in Sergio world where you break the line on purpose to disorient people. Yes, but that's a choice. And I will only say that I don't like it now. You don't like the short anymore? Yeah. He completely went around.

You got Keeved, brother. I got Keeved, dude. You got straight up Keeved. All right. Later, quid. Never let Keev tell you what he thinks about your wife because your life will end. I'm not talking about me. Yeah, yeah.

I'm still together with my wife because he likes her. Otherwise, if he didn't, we wouldn't be together. I'm so sorry, Eddie. Oh, God, I didn't mean that. I can take it back. I'm glad he made his speech at our winning. Oh, and it was true. We all know it was true.

I'm so fucked. I remember he was at dinner once with Alexi, and he kept complaining because she would leave the table and then come back in from the opposite side. Exactly, which is just disoriented. He didn't know where to look. Yeah, he didn't know where to look. I feel like your wife breaks the line a lot.

Well, I think we have to release the Keeve cut. I think he's got to take another pass at this, flip a few, you know, flip a few nays. and color time it to his satisfaction, and we'll roam side by side. We'll see if it's better or worse. So it's not amateur hour. Here's my very generous takeaway.

Keeve cares a lot. And this is something we all built together, and even though it was his choice to completely fucking abandon me and go work on a movie, he still felt, which never came out, so worth it. Not his fault, but still so worth it. Just a vacation in LA for him.

So I understand the feeling of like, I want to do both things. I want to be there. This is the thing we built together. This is also my legacy. I want to make sure it's how I would want it to be. I have all those feelings about things when the shoe is on the other foot.

Is that how you say it? When it's the other way around is probably clear. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know that anyone else has ever cared about the things that he just noted, but hit us in the tinnis. I'd be curious to know. Well, can I add on to that, too,

is that in addition to what Andy just said, I've learned to be a more meticulous person not even director, meticulous person, which I'm still not. Like, but both me and Andy, but both me and Andy, like, I think learned

how to be better filmmakers through... I've already referenced the latter or else I would jump in. You can remember, like, I'm fine with that. I'm very confident. I think you're just differently meticulous, if I can say that.

Yeah. Yeah. Borderline tongue twister. Differently meticulous and ridiculous. Della. Dell the Funky Homoosapean your rap. You're a rap.

name was Rick Micticulous. Rick Maticulus. That's right. You remember. Arithmeticulus. Rick Maticulus. Ridiculously differently meticulous. Arithmatucous. Okay. So, but yes, Yorm, and I absolutely agree. I'm so much better at editing because of Akeva and writing all the things. He's our guy. Yeah. We learned from him. He learned from us. We did it all together. It's beautiful.

That said, shut up, bro. And I will say the S&L Digital Short logo was a point of pride and that that is part of it. For sure. Like, what goes in there has to have a certain... Yes, yes. Yeah. It's very funny that, I mean, and I know that's very real, and you were not saying that it's a joke at all, because it is the, as we've established, it's like the flattest opening

logo. Flatest, most boring. Do not let that flag touch the ground. Generic. There's three people who for sure know that it means that it's us and it's us. Yeah. There you go. But if we talk about it a lot on this podcast, I feel like that.

Yeah. Oh, no. So all of that, I mean, for me, when he had his issues, I was like, it's the reason that I wanted to bring up how it felt on the floor watching it air, that pride I felt of having pulled one off with neither of them there, and to get that reaction from the audience and to do right by ham and to, like, have done it with Chryssel, who I was really just starting to work with, I was like, fuck, man.

I feel like we just did really good. I was so happy at the after party. And you being sick, you being very sick and very tired and me being very cool. Yeah. Don't forget about how chilly ham was. And Andy, were you like, fuck those guys kind of like? You were you just like, I don't need those guys at all. I just assumed he was right and it was bad in a way I didn't understand.

Then you hung up, you hung up the phone and you made the same horse face that you made at the end of Sergio, right? Yeah, I was like, no. Get the wide angle lens. Terry Gilliam meet. Maybe he's right. Mostly, when you sit with these things, too, there is a lesson to learn of like, if anybody's trying to make films for the first time,

it's like sometimes those mistakes are egregious and sometimes you can live with them. You know, it's, they're not always, you know, because we've all been on set shooting something and it's like, well, we could get it from over here, but we'd kind of be jumping the line. And it's like, well, there's a time and a place when you can do that that's not going to completely

pull somebody out of the scene. And I think that's a good lesson to learn, too. It's also like, you know, sometimes it's not so bad. Yep, yep. I did ask Chrysler for a voice note, but he hasn't had time to get one to us yet. But maybe for next time, I would love to hear what he has to say about it. I mean, he's got to hear Kyves and then just shots fired. Support comes from Viori.

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Got it. Was he talking about West Coast, though? Maybe Hawaiian time? No, he's out. He's East Coast. Yeah, right on, yeah. Was this closet organizer? Yeah.

Oh, again, man. So again. God damn. This is how good this show is. Every time I hear from him, he references that sketch. We refer to each other by our names, no. So, wait, before we move on, okay, please.

Seth, Yorm. Yeah. Pam, it's a little loaded for you. Is the curse criterion? 100% no hesitation. I mean, I think so. No hesitation. And I think anything that,

not anything, that made it into the 100th digital short, but like, there's a reason it's in the 100th digital short. Yes. Agreed. Also, I was around, even though I wasn't hosting or anything, but I was around when the tournament happened. I think I filled out a bracket. And I think it went pretty far in the bracket.

It was in there. Yeah, for sure. I would be surprised if it didn't make the Sweet 16. Final 16. Final 16, if not eight. I think it went pretty far. But also, it just felt like it kind of had it. You know, Sergio was kind of kept going.

It did. As a thing. People, you know, whatever. It had a life of its own. Agreed. And I heard about it a lot after as well. I mean, Ham, you've had some pretty amazingly sticky characters. with that Don Draper guy

like we're like with Sergio how often did you get both just our eyes rolled out of our skull what are you talking about why he said sticky

that's sticky why are you suddenly trying to be like a normal host what are you talking about I'm a shock jock like shock shock

he's still a shock doc dude he's still a shock dock they have different kinds of modes I don't have a list of questions for this did you prepare

your own sticky character my question is how often do people reference to Sergio on the street a lot a lot lots a lot a lot you know especially you know in the what you said this was 2010 yeah yeah yeah I mean this is January 2010 it had a good run of people like coming up to me on the street and you know and Sergio ham follow up how many of them

bring up the um jumping the line sir you you fucked it up and on on sec a minute 103 what's up with the color correction though hey Sergio you're a great sax guy but a shitty filmmaker Sergio, does it break your heart? Does it break your heart out close you came? Sergio, you were so close, dude. Then you fucked up. You dropped it. I was so disoriented.

Why you're so washed out? Oh, hey, I didn't recognize you. I thought you were Sergio, but your color's not fucked up. Oh, my God. Oh, sweet burns. All right. Can we jump on then, Andy? Well, I had some more sincere stuff to say.

No, all right, let's move on. Well, okay, I just want to pick up. hold that yeah what's up dude i'm okay thank you my uh my son came in with two things which was uh he told me to stop yelling and asked me if i wanted a beef stick oh he's a good dude yeah uh okay and sure yeah i'm sorry and stop yelling do you want a beef steak okay so this just uh this just time stamps where we are in the world uh the next sketch uh you play scott brown oh boy yeah Hot Senator, New Center. God, that was a fun one, too.

Then we have Michael Boubley sings his first song. And then, update. Then, Greg is not an alien for the second time. Yeah. That's Bill as the sports anchor. He's definitely an alien. Oh, my God. I forgot about those.

Greg is definitely an alien. He was definitely an alien. Keenan is a host of a sports show. First time caller, a long-time listener. She just wanted to say, Greg is definitely an alien. Yeah. That's the whole sketch. Hello and welcome to another edition of Game Time with Randy and Greg,

your one-stop shop for sports talk. I'm former NFL running back Randy Dukes. And with me as always is my co-host, Greg. Greg is not an alien. And today we're going to be talking about... It's great. Really funny. I also feel like, was this before or after,

I feel like this had been kind of done, or maybe we did it first, this one did it first anyway, was where there was the multiplicity thing happening. Yeah, this was... They did it with the foul. Falconer was first, but this was the, I think the second Greg's an alien, and yes, you start multiplying. So I think Michael Brian shows up, Brian Tucker shows up as an alien, all dressed like Greg. Yeah. Do you remember who you play in this sketch, John?

Stan Van Gundy, do I play a coach? You play Frank Reich, the coach of the Colts. Who gets attacked by Greg and then returns to the show as an alien, yeah. Then we're often a Cess Corner. Norm, sing us in real quick. Cess Corner, here's the part of the show that Cess talks about what he did that week.

Hang it away, Seth. You know what? I'm going to come right back at you and say, like, here's another. This is a, maybe even more impressive. This is a three-sketch act that I put up against anything. Ham and Bubbly is the next sketch,

which is John Ham and Michael Boubley have opened a ham and a champagne restaurant. I get a lot of that one, man. That was a good one. Is it called Ham and Bubbly or Ham and Boubley? No, it's Hammond Bubly. And then John is a very menacing guy, and over the course of the sketch,

you realize that he's kidnapped Michael Boubley. And he insists. And Michael does try to say it's actually pronounced Boubley, and he's like, and John, like, very menacingly says, that's not. No, no, now it's bubblit. His eyes went black and he's smacked my face. And he sings songs.

He's singing, and every time it's like, I know what you're thinking, and I agree. This is a bad idea for a. restaurant oh no he's coming back when i get a chance i'll explain how he came to this this is the john ham's john ham unofficial sequel yes yes also michael bublae was not at the table i think we all know i can't sing and i had to sing the michael bublae part at the table read on wednesday hey made the show uh not great i remember sidacus may be laughing so hard he was choking but it made the show

you made the show i was going to say sidacus would have died to do the boulea parts i know but i couldn't Well, I was very worried about this getting the scantion of the jokes, right? Yeah, yeah. At the table, I knew I could sing the jokes. Fair, fair, fair, fair. Well, not as Michael, but a thing I had forgotten was, at one point, John says, like, the deal now is... And if you like entertainment with your meal, you're in luck. Every night at Ham and Bubbly, Mr. Michael Bubbly will perform two shows.

In the 8 p.m. show, Michael is a ventriloquist. At 11 p.m., he does a one-man show about William Faulkner. Don't you think it would just be better If I sang in the shows Excuse me That sound means another delicious ham is ready Neither are singing And then Michael Blay

Like goes, wouldn't it be better if I just sang And you just like stare at them It's really funny It's really great All right, then we go into closet organizer Which is a pre-tape And again, in order to get a three-sketched act, you need a pre-tape in the middle. So it's a late-night television ad for a closet organizer.

It's exceptional work by Sadekis only doing the voiceover because like, hi, it's a closet just a really funny, dumb voice. And it's basically Will Forte dressed in a blue body suit standing in a closet, and he organized your closet, and then they're just, people keep off camera, you never see anybody, are throwing things at him. And he's organizing him in the closet, but he immediately isn't catching. them and it's just a mess the idea is that you throw things at this person who lives in your closet and he puts them away neatly for you he's your closet organizer but it all immediately goes

off the real nice blue spandex suit yeah blue spandex suit with a head covering perfect forte he's a blue he's a blue shape i want to make sure i think all you need to give him is a a little bit of food and water and a bucket for him to do his business in and then it cuts to him his pants to him His pants are still on, but he's squatting over a bucket. It's a lot of water. Like, some of the things in the closet organized are water, just for the joy of seeing him a splash with water. Marbles.

And then at the end, it goes, pies, pies, pies, pie. And he just keeps getting hit with pies. This is pure Forte Solomon, right? 1,000% John and Will. God damn it, John and Will. Will is very good physically. So fine. And again, I reached out to them, and they were,

they said, oh, my God, definitely. When do you need it by? And it's four hours past then. But let's just watch it. All right, yeah. Weren't there three pieces of it? Two. Or only two.

There were three pieces of finger and butts. Excuse me? Does this happen to you? Is your closet an absolute mess? Are you way too stupid to keep your closet clean? Oh. Introducing the new Zipko closet organizer. Great for shoes.

Sweeters. Belts. Hats. Parkas. Jeans, underwear, socks, scarves. That's very important. Blankets, lamps, trophies, marbles, phone books, additional water, loose peanut butter, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie. He pockets the underwear.

Pocketing the underwear right out of the game. Oh, God damn it. There's more to say about that, but first, then we go to the third of this hat trick is Fred's stenographer character Al-Lidnaid. Oh, Crackers.

Maybe it was Anne Golden era, Seth. I mean, it's an Anne-Golden episode. Yeah, this is a killer, man. It made me laugh so hard. And again, it's like it from a bygone era,

this Fred character. It's also the most Fred and James Anderson sketch. I think, was I asking you this, Seth? Did he do another version of this? Or did he do this character before? This, I think, is the second one of these. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. Because I remember there was one where he couldn't find his chapstick, and then this one time he can't find his crackers. Oh, God, this is great. We're not going to watch all of it, but I would just like to watch just the beginning of this sketch because the fun of, like, the Fred reveal.

Also, takes his time. Thank you, Mrs. Shanklin. Your witness. So, Mrs. Shanklin, on the night, Mr. Green was murdered. You saw a suspicious vehicle. I did. Can you describe this vehicle? I remember it very clearly.

It was a white Ford escort with a dent in the driver's side door. It's good. I mean, it's like a sketch from, it's a sketch from 50 years ago. It's like, it's like, it would not have been out of place on your show of shows. No, yeah, unbelievable. But it's like, it's too big for Carol Burnett. Yeah. And it's not, it's a completely different world,

and there's no notes that been given to any other performers to do anything differently. Is there any way you can type more quietly? It's not me, it's the machine. Why are you using a typewriter instead of a stenograph? I don't know how to do that. I'll be fine. I'll be fine.

This is, this just, and then this part is something that my wife and I still say all the time. Oh, yeah. I can't find my crackers. I can't find my cracker. By the way, being in a sketch with Fred 101 without breaking, do not make eye contact with him. Or you're done. Then there's this weird, like, just the most James writing

that comes out of nowhere, because you go and you address Kenan, the judge. And this is also does not fit in the sketch at all, but it delights me. I'm excuse me, sorry. Your Honor, is there something we can do about the court stenographer? Do you have an issue with the linden? She's, I don't want to say that she's bad at her job,

but she's typing what we're saying right now. Listen, no one is good at their job. I mean, you're not a good lawyer. I'm not a good judge. I mean, his jury doesn't look like they know what they're doing. But who cares? We're just figuring out if people go to jail or not. Excuse me, quick.

Damn it. We're just figuring out if people go to jail or not. Anyway, it's again, it's a perfect act. And now, like you think at this point, there's no more you could ask about this show. Also, I want to say that we've come into, we're not living in this world, right? When the response to somebody being terrible at their job is, listen, no one's good at their job. This is the world where it's. Very ahead of its time.

We've come all the way around to actually living in. a Linda's world. I mean, specifically deciding if people go to jail. Prophetic. It was prophetic. Is there not a second

closet organizer piece? Yeah, and we're going to watch it. I'm so sorry. It's, but this is, again... Seth, you had a plan and I fucked it.

No, this was the exact plan. But at this point, again, this show does not need anything else to make it a perfect show. And yet we have this coming. Oh, man. And this was the five to one? Yeah.

God damn it. I love that. John's sitting alone at a bar. Will enters. Get a gin and tonic, please. Yeah, genitonic on the way. Gin and tonic. Hell of a drink.

Yeah, I'm not gay. I'm not either, bro. Oh. Cheers. Sorry, just a good long day. None taken. Yeah, I didn't say no offense. None taken.

That is the most Forte and Solomon in line To have somebody say none taken Before Without anybody saying no offense It's like being in a writer's room with a There's more to come You look familiar

Do I know you from somewhere? I don't know Probably not Where'd you go to high school? Salt Lake City Puzzin Valley Beavers No I'm from Israel

Jerusalem Tigers By the way As a 10 to 1er Everything that's happened so far Is perfectly fine And again at the table When you're listening to this at the table You're like oh this is one of those forte pieces

Yeah That's going to be about two people talking weird And I'm here for it And it's going to be the use of language Like we've never heard before And moves like that But there's more you know Yes not then

No, I, I know you from somewhere. Are you on TV? No, I'm on a bar stool. That's a really good joke. So, no, seriously, how do I know you? Wait a second. You're the freaking closet organizer guy, aren't you? Oh my God, that's you, right?

From the commercial, the blue suit. That's me. Yeah, your hair kind of threw me. I'm not wearing the head. I can't believe I'm talking to the closet organizer. I have a name, actually. Oh, God, I'm sorry. All right.

Before we get to the names, Forte's performance as a guy who gets this all the time is just marvelous. And I got to be, I'm not just blowing smoke. I'm buying Ham's performance as well. Hold on. Hold on. Can I just show, this is my mom trying not to be seen. Oh, man. She's crawling on the floor, so she's not seen.

Just get on here. You know all these people. Hi. Hi. You guys. There's Seth and John Hammond. We're having an argument on whether Yorma's Nike sweatpants are 100% cotton, so I have to. What?

I get it. We've all been there. Bye, Mom. We've all been in that exact situation, hundreds of times. With Yorm. She's 74. She was crawling on the floor so she wouldn't be seen in the podcast. Just rub it in your face, how mobile she is.

I like that even. She can't believe we don't have video on our podcast. Yep. All right. So, John mentioned earlier, he alluded to the fact that we're about to hear two of the greatest sketch names of all time. Oh, God, I'm sorry. Tarkie. Tarky, Tarky, I'm Resden Boner.

It's a real honor. Real honor. Yeah. Now, I know you probably get this all the time, but would you mind doing a little bit for me? I don't know. I mean, I have. Oh, come on. Please.

Fine. Okay. Sucks. Marbles. Pies, pies, pies. That's so awesome. Oh my God, thank you. Oh, man.

Hey, what are you doing right now? You want to head over to my place? Maybe watch the office or something? I don't know. Oh, come on. It'd be fun. We could order pizza, drink some beer. It'll be fun.

Yeah, okay. Maybe. Yeah. You know, play some video games. you know, maybe after you could help me organize my closet. There it is, thanks, Resden. What? I'm not going to help you organize your closet, okay? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I was joking.

Well, it wasn't funny. I'm sorry. Yeah, you are sorry. You don't know what it's like to be me, okay? Every time someone tries to buy you a drink, or wants to be your friend or wants to make love to you, you have to ask yourself, are they doing this because you're Tarky-Fenzington?

Or because you're... Pyes, socks, marbles. I had no idea. Yeah. No, you didn't. Goodbye, Resden. I hope you died in it. Hey, was that the closet organizer guy?

No, that was Tarky. Yeah, that was a closet. This. Tarky fencing, man. I mean, I think in the same way, I do feel like this had the same fun of the end of the curse, which is, like, the audience was so appreciative of the amount of structural integrity of these two things.

There's a big laugh when it's revealed. And it's such a, right, it's such an edifying laugh of like, oh. It's very fun when the show does things like this where it references itself within the episode and, yeah. Sorry, is your last name, your name is Resden Boehner? Boner. Is it spelled boner? Like boner with a U in it.

Okay. Gotcha. Just clarifying. Great writing. The Jerusalem Tigers. We're wrapping it up, guys. This is good. Oh, I just want to say real quick, a little housekeeping.

Kenward and Jost wrote the weird L. I want to make sure Kenward also gets credit for that impenetrable sketch. Oh, the Hey Kids are heading down to Shea. Yeah. Oh, nice. Thank you for cleaning that. A very nice note about the pod. Congrats on the enormity of your success.

Yorm and the gang, which is what my cousin calls this podcast for some reason. Nice, my character. My character has been rising to the ranks, guys. Oh, my God, Yormhead. Andy, I'm wondering, what you think about this comic because I think there's some truth to it. Kiev organizing a special screening of way of water,

but also not remembering the Sigourney Weaver was in the first movie, is a real distillation of Avatar's overall place in the culture. Oh, wow. I mean, I really think that really resonated with me. Really? I think a lot of people would agree with that. Yeah. I happen to not be one of

them, but I can't deny anyone else's experience of which I've been told about many. I don't know. Kiva not remembering that, to me, has been the biggest shock of this entire podcast that he didn't remember that. And you know what? I want to say, guys, John, you've had such sticky

characters. Oh, boy. I, okay, fine. No one wants to hear me. I'm the most popular character on the pod, guys. It's fun being on Norman the gang, guys. I've been enjoying it. When Matt Weiner pitched it to you, was he like, this character's sticky. Drake was sticky.

Sticky, baby, you're going to want to be in this show. Johnny. Hey, the last thing, the last thing I wanted to say that I totally forgot was when I went, when I was back at S&L was hanging out with the writers, and I was hanging out with a lot of the young writers. A bunch of them said this podcast was more helpful in telling them how the show worked than anything anybody at the show has told them. Is that true? Yeah.

Well, hello, everyone. We love you. Yeah, we love you guys. Thanks for listening. Wait, hey, we got you here. Anything else that you remember from that week? Anything you want to bless us with about your S&L experience? Other than just it was not the usual being terrified that you had no,

because like you said, nobody really tells you what you're just supposed to follow along kind of blindly. So I at least had a template of what I kind of thought might happen. Yeah. And then I knew I was happy that I was getting all the opportunities to do so many great sketches. And as everybody knows, like, you know, table is five hours long, and it was a long table. It was jam-packed with awesome stuff, and it was hard to pick the show. But it was so fun. And it just was great to come back.

And it was so fun that I came back, I think, in the same calendar year, which was even more fun. And we'd try to get some more stuff. And did you hook up with anyone? Yeah, do you hook up? No. Do you have a crush on anyone in the cast? Eddie, you got me sick. You got me all sick when we're mouthed.

While we're on the subject, Seth, I still think it's fucked out. We never hooked up. I do, too. I remember Ham just kept saying he was too cold to hook up that week, so don't get colds. She's way too chilly. I'm so sorry. Don't get on me. I'm too greasy and cold.

You're lovely. I'm just so chilly. That's my ham. Just hold me. I think that John and Will wrote that cause it organizing. the last act of the closet organizer as a comment on how difficult it was to be Don Draper in the world.

That's what I'll say. That's really weird. That's the meta of it all. You'd been on the other side of that a lot of times. Yeah, it made sense to me. I got it. Your performance was based in reality. Yeah, true experience.

I say this with no exaggeration. John Hamm, you are Anne a Golden Host from Anne Golden Era. I loved it. It was so fun. It's still fun. It only took me 15 years to get back on. it, but, man, it was fun.

It was fun when you went back on it. Oh, my God, you were a killer on it, man. But I think every era of show has its go-to-hosts, and we were so lucky that we overlapped to do. Well, that's kind of you to say. And Seth, you watched the last episode. What was your least favorite sketch? Of this whole episode?

Of the last episode that just aired. Sabrina Carpenter. Least favorite sketch. To tell. Now that we know all the writers are listening. You want to add this as a thing? We all know how hard it is to work there, but we don't fucking work there no more, dude.

Let's shit on it, right? Dish. Do it. Just say it, and then we'll cut it out and everyone don't wonder what it was. Yeah, just bleep it, Seth. All right. Tell us.

All right, let's get out of here. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. Andy, theme song. Spelling bee. Spelling bee. Andy, what did you do in the beat today? I got motherfucking queen bee. clean.

All right. Thanks for listening, guys. I want you to hear this criticism. It's very stressful. You and I share our bees every day. You're way better than me. And like, when I tell you and I'm honest with you about the words I miss, you're always like, oh, fuck. You must be so fucking bummed.

You're just not. You know what you are? You're Keeve about the curse with me about the B. No, but it's because I know you can do better. Is that Keeve too? Yeah. Is that what he thinks when he says mean things? Kind of.

Uh, anyway, congrats on the bee. All right, let's try it one more time. So it's, you got clean bee is what you got. I got clean bee. Nice. Oh, yeah. And I missed, uh, yawned. And what else did I miss?

It was something else dumb. Oh, do me. Come on. Like the Belbiv-Divoso? Yeah, do me, baby. Do you think you can? Wait, was Motown Philly on it today? Yeah, it got into Webster's because those guys were so great.

We've now entered Shaggy Tail. Oh, God damn it. Oh, that's a lot. Or good? I like shaggy tails And I can not lie I remember All right, love you guys

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