The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - The Jon Hamm Episode

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

This week The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers revisit "an golden era" episode of SNL featuring Jon Hamm. An episode so good that it deserved a dedicated breakdown. Featuring legendary sketches like Jon ...Hamm's John Ham, Trick or Treat, and A-Holes featuring Elisabeth Moss and John Slattery. They also do a quick check-in on the Josh Brolin episode because they could not not talk about Fart Face and Andy meeting the real Mark Wahlberg backstage. The whole crew is here this week and Jorma will address the shocking ending to last week's episode. Fart Face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6hEfK5C-SgWeekend Update: Sarah Palin Rap - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlgkq_EW64Trick-or-Treat (Jon Hamm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV0CVX60WegJon Hamm’s John Ham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiLJsOsRKUIBackstage: Mark Wahlberg Confronts Andy Samberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYcHxF_cO8o&Obama Address: Safe and Musical - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcf9l_-f4e8A-Holes: Pitch Meeting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm6hMe_XFGcVincent Price's Halloween Special - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbiLanj8EuI Ras Trent Playlistshttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/2CwhfAHY0JvLFtTd0nw5hQ?si=32a94f1810b94c12https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3ZF85CSkGX8mZg9wg5a2At?si=d86aa5da4cb64291https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0qEwOOAJYuocoHEiYBbIXr?si=f7ca2ed8c89e492ahttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/2NByujE8yIDRS9XJSbx6H2?si=0f5e6b9f2be644c2 (Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @lonelymeyerspod. Send us an email! thelonelyislandpod@gmail.com Support our sponsors:Maker's MarkThis episode of The Lonely Island Podcast is brought to you by our friends at Maker's Mark. You too can celebrate the spirited women in your life with a free personalized label to go with a bottle of Maker’s Mark! Head to makersmarkpersonalize.com and fill in the details in order to create and mail your custom label. MAKER'S MARK MAKES THEIR BOURBON CAREFULLY. PLEASE ENJOY IT THAT WAY. Maker's Mark® Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whisky, 45% Alc./Vol. ©2025 Maker's Mark Distillery, Inc., Loretto, KY.   Express VPN:Protect your online privacy TODAY by visiting ExpressVPN dot com slash ISLAND. That’s E-X-P-R-E-S-S-V-P-N dot com slash ISLAND to find out how you can get up to four extra months FREE HomeChef:For a limited time, HomeChef is offering my listeners 18 Free Meals PLUS Free Dessert for Life and of course, Free Shipping on your first box! Go to HomeChef.com/ISLAND.  Must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert. Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne Jones

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of the Lonely Island podcast is brought to you by our friends at Makers Mark. We are celebrating Women's History Month by recognizing the spirited women in our lives and remembering Makers Mark co-founder Margie Samuels. You too can celebrate the spirited women in your life with a free personalized label to go with a bottle of Makers Mark. Head to makersmarkpersonalize.com and fill in the details in order to create and mail your custom label. Makers Mark makes their bourbon carefully. Please enjoy it that way. Makers Mark, Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey,
Starting point is 00:00:34 45% alcohol per volume. Copyright 2025, Makers Mark Distillery, Incorporated Loretto, Kentucky. It's the lonely island, Seth Meoretto, Kentucky. It's the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast. Yeah. I think Keef's about to join us. And so let's get out the business that Keef doesn't wanna talk about.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Andy, something mind boggling happened this week. What? There was an S in the spelling bee. Oh my God, yeah. First time ever. We, our whole community was reeling. Do you know the reason for it? No.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It was the 2,500th spelling bee. They were celebrating with the S. The 2,500th? Yeah. Is that an important number? I don't know. Ask Sam Mazursky. Have they ever reused a word?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Well, doing this. You don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, this is crazy for you to even chime in. Like what does that even mean? Oh, spelling bee, sorry. I thought we were talking about your thing, your whatever, that thing that you like to do. Oh, can I also jump in and say that the biggest feedback
Starting point is 00:01:35 from the Ross Trent episode in the comments was people yelling, release the yorm cut. God, I wish it was better. I wish it was not just disappointed. I know. And what I want to say to our listeners, I get it. You want to hear it because it sounds funny to you. And it was funny.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It is not an audio experience that would be enjoyable. It was funny for like 30 seconds. It's like living through when two people are trying to connect, but there's a bad connection. Right. But I was in the room, so it was even worse. We could see you. Yeah, it sucked. When you called in and forgot there was a pod,
Starting point is 00:02:12 that was perfect. That's as much yorm as anybody wants. Also, can I just say, in that particular episode, too, because that was, you guys, my favorite episode of the pod. Like, with or without me. I thought it was so informative I know a lot about dance hall and reggae I do but like I I learned I was so Impressed at how on point you guys were with all the references. I mean, I know a lot of those things obviously I was there writing the dog with you
Starting point is 00:02:40 Well, you're can I just say that's very nice. Yes Can I also just say that I like to say, can I just say, and can I also just say that no episode will ever be my favorite unless we're all on it together. Oh. Well, I was on it, though. I popped in, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah. Said that I forgot and then left. I heard that my dream came true and that some people made the Ross Trent playlist, which is like all the songs people made the Ross Trent playlist, which is like all the songs referenced on the song. Oh my god, that's like the reason to do the podcast for just that moment. I was very glad to hear that. A friend of mine told me that had happened,
Starting point is 00:03:14 which had been a secret dream. So anyone out there, thanks for compiling. Those are some great songs. And may I just say to steal your entry to the sentence line? Sure. I had a fear, Yoram. I'm so happy you said that because I had a fear over the course May I just say to steal your entry to the sentence line. Sure. I had a fear, Yoram, I'm so happy you said that because I had a fear over the course of the Ross Trent record. Is this too granular?
Starting point is 00:03:33 And based on what I've read and heard about it, most people agree with Yoram. I think people really liked the deep dive of that. And it is nice on the 50th episode to realize maybe I don't fully understand what people want, but I'm open. I also, in addition to being informative, though, it was like on an ego tip just to be like,
Starting point is 00:03:52 hey, this is how much we care. And that's what I also felt like listening to it again. I was like, right, we really like every single one. The fact that it was a stop down every second. I'm just like, oh, sorry, this means this. I like to imagine there's at least one person that listens to the cast who knew all that stuff and more and was sitting there banging their head on the desk like,
Starting point is 00:04:15 I know about Capelton. Oh my God, just be fucking funny. It's our friend, Zia Mara Nadira Bateen in Berkeley, California, who was just sitting there, except for that she likes it so much that she was like, right on, guys. Um, a few other comments about this pod that I did enjoy. Someone wrote, love that this episode is a lot of
Starting point is 00:04:35 Seth being like, I swear I'm cool guys. And then someone wrote underneath that, dot dot dot, this episode question mark, LOL. Burn. So I guess that, yeah, it might dot, this episode, question mark, LOL. Burn. So I guess that, yeah, it might be a real burn. And then someone else said, this is the episode Seth realized he's turbo white. I'm gonna make you a t-shirt that says that, Seth.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Okay, but then I'm gonna make a t-shirt about you, Yoram, because this one made me laugh out loud. It is, oh, Keev's coming over and I want Keev to hear this. I already love it. I already love whatever it is. Do you think loud. It is, oh, Keef's coming over and I want Keef to hear this. I already love it. I already love whatever it is. Do you think there's a chance, Seth, they mean turbo from the movie Breakin' or like turbo from the movie Turbo?
Starting point is 00:05:13 I don't think so. I think there's zero chance. That's kind of you though, Andy. Keef, can you hear me? I don't wanna interrupt the flow. We were waiting for you, Keef, cause I wanna maybe get this on a t-shirt. It's a comment. Yorm is a giant memento.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Oh. Like a Chris Nolan memento. Yeah. Yhorm's memory is such that he's just He's piecing together the day. Yeah, I'm piecing together that I know I'm friends with these guys. They're laughing, so I must be friends with them.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh my god. We should just write podcast huge and Sharpie on your forearm. Jorm called in, heard there was a podcast, and thought he could drive fast enough to get there before it started. Even though it was happening. I did. It's the best part of the podcast, and no one will ever hear it.
Starting point is 00:05:57 He tried to Nolan his way back to the start of the podcast. He tried to interstellar to the beginning. I knew it was a bad idea. Even as I was driving over guys, I was like, this is a bad idea. Oh, man. It's all Nolan refs, though. He was in, he was behind the books.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. In the galactic vortex. I haven't seen that one. Keefe, one more time. We established this because everybody in the comments said release the clowning on Yhorm cut. Right. You can verify for people that it was not,
Starting point is 00:06:21 it was more fun to talk about than actually listen to. Yeah, I think so. There was a lot of confusion. No, no, it st about than actually listen to. Yeah, I think so. There was a lot of confusion. No, it's stank. It's stank. Also, I had like a five minute audio clip that didn't go anywhere with Mr. Peck Bennett.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It stunk. I feel bad because a lot of people wrote that the cones, those giant cones in New York that have steam coming out of them that you used as a big old bong in Rostrom, people sent me YouTube links explaining it, Wikipedia pages. I didn't read any of them, but basically they said New York, it's releasing steam.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So I will just assume that if you don't release steam, New York explodes. That was my only grievance that I had was that that was my idea. And you fucking created a key with that, Andy. Oh, you were the idea to use it as a big old bong? I was, we were just walking on the street and I was like, hey, that'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And you were smoking a cigarette, Andy, and you didn't like it. See, this is why we needed you, bro. That's why without you, it can never be a perfect app. Yeah, there you go. Thanks, man. Also, I don't think that that Cold Stone was in Times Square. I think it was closer to where we shot Boombox,
Starting point is 00:07:17 a little farther down near the West Side Highway. I thought it was West Side, too, yeah. Look at all these memories just sitting in that brain. Memento, I wrote it down on my chest. I was carved into my chest. Oh, those things were the tattoos. Oh, my God. The most useless memento tattoos.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Fuck you, Eric. He wakes up in his motel. He's like, where am I? Who am I? Andy smoked a cigarette for that shot. I know they're laughing, so they're definitely friends of mine, or are they making fun? Maybe I'm the enemy of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:51 That's what you had to get a tattoo said, they're making fun, but remember they're friends of yours. Oh my God. Speaking of Cold Stone, somebody wrote, I used to work near a Cold Stone Creamery, and every time I walked in, I'd sing Meat Toil Part Time at John Cold Stone Creamery. Oh, that's incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's really good. This one is even, somebody wrote, often when people in my family realize that the thing we're complaining about is really trivial, will sing Meat Toil Part Time at John Cold Stone Creamery. I really like that usage. I don't know which comment is better. Yeah, they're very nice.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Somebody opined that bald heads can be anyone that's not Rastafarian because one of the livitis is the word they used in being Rasta is you cannot cut your hair. Yeah, that's a better description for sure. They're not literally bald. Ross Trent doesn't know that though. Before we move on, do you guys think
Starting point is 00:08:41 that this is a Criterion Collection episode? Ooh, good question. Ross Trent, I think yes, 100%. Yeah, I think so too. Just for the specificity of everything that was pointed out last episode and how much it is a part of our lives and growing up as the three of us in Berkeley,
Starting point is 00:08:58 like to me, yes. And the fact that Rihanna liked it so much. Because I don't know if you guys remember this, but we did play it for her in the room with a bunch of her friends, and she was laughing really hard. Oh, we did. And then she showed it to her friends
Starting point is 00:09:11 who had the shop, you think, after that? Yeah, I'm assuming that happened later, but we definitely showed it to her. Got it. And there was definitely, like, a huge level of her going from, like, who are these guys? To, like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Got it. Yeah, I mean, having it as a calling card. God, I love her. So both stories were true. We really needed Yhorm. We didn't know what Yhorm brought to this with his memory. I will say, for me, definitely personal Criterion.
Starting point is 00:09:35 It's one of my favorite ones we have ever done, because as these guys were saying, it's so personally meaningful. But I'm very proud of it, and I will always be glad we did it. I would not have said it was criterion before the episode and I'm gonna venture that maybe our listeners wouldn't either, but I'm very excited because it swung me and I wonder if the episode
Starting point is 00:09:57 will swing the voters the next time we have. Wait, it swung Turbo White? You know, Turbo White did not go into this, sorry. He could be. Turbot, Turbot White. Turbot. Turbot white. It's like a flaky white fish. They were clearly referring to his complexion that it is that of a cooked turbot. Wait, is that better?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Well, you know what, turbot, yeah. I got fish skin. Seth, I'm looking at you right now and you got fish skin, buddy. I don't know what to tell you. So a turbot is a kind of fish? Yeah. It is, but it has a T at the end
Starting point is 00:10:24 and it's not spelled the same, so this doesn't really work. I think. I don't know what to tell you. So a turban is a kind of fish? Yeah. It is. But it has a T at the end and it's not spelled the same. So this doesn't really work. I think it does. Hey, you know what? I kept me to say this the whole last episode we're recording and it's for nobody, but one of my favorite books that like the last 10 years
Starting point is 00:10:35 is a book called A Brief History of Seven Killings. So good. By this wonderful writer named Marlon James, which is about the attempted assassination on Bob Marley. And it's a fantastic book, Jamaican crime book, highly recommend. And guess who recommended that and sent it to me? My friend, Zia Mara Nadir Abatine,
Starting point is 00:10:52 that I was talking about, who loves dancing. Makes sense. That's a Berkeley. Thanks for saying her full name every time. Berkeley, shout out. Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. Shout out, Zia Mara. You know, I maybe was called a turbo white
Starting point is 00:11:04 in the comments. It was also mentioned, somebody said, God, I only wish those guys would ever tell us where they grew up. Oh my God. That's maybe the deepest burn of any burn. Yeah. We did not get to the actual episode, though,
Starting point is 00:11:22 as discussed in the last pod. It was an golden episode for my money. And I was just wondering if we could spend a little bit of time talking down, would that be all right for you gentlemen? Of course. I think more than a little. I love that idea.
Starting point is 00:11:34 All right, great. But before you even get into the Ham episode, did you have anything else on the Brolin episode that we also went right past? Cause these were, is it the two last episodes of the Sarah Palin, all eyes on the show kind of hotspot, especially for you Seth? There's one more.
Starting point is 00:11:48 There's one more. There's one more episode before the election. And was there anything, I know we touched on the Brolin, so I don't need us to go in super slow-mo here, but was there other stuff? Can you throw it in the rundown in the chat, Kev? Oh, he says, McGroober's fart face, that was all in that app.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Mark Wahlberg talks to animals with actual Mark Wahlberg. Yep. Real Sarah Palin. I'm No Angel. I'm No Angel, which was the very pregnant Amy Poehler walking across a bar because Brolinna made eyes at her, using her own pregnant belly for physical comedy in a way that was remarkable.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And is fall foliage in this or was that a different time? Oh, that might've been fall foliage. Is fall foliage, if fall foliage and fart face was in the same episode, that's really asking a lot of an audience. I remember thinking that the Brolin show was a not good show, that it had the amazing politics at the top, that it had all eyes on the show,
Starting point is 00:12:41 everyone was watching, and that we kind of blew it. But in hindsight, as we mentioned all the sketches on it, everyone was watching and that we kind of blew it. But in hindsight, as we mentioned all the sketches on it, now I think maybe it was a fantastic show. I mean, it's definitely stuff we personally love. You remember thinking that at the time, gave you like at the time you're like, this stinks. I remember feeling like, wow,
Starting point is 00:12:58 we have the attention of the entire country on us because of the stuff that the politics stuff that Seth was working on and that nobody had brought our egg, that something had gone wrong. And even though Brolin was great. Brolin was great, and almost so great that it worked against us because Brolin loved stuff like fartface and fall foliage,
Starting point is 00:13:16 which were super writer sketches. I also loved the Magruder so much that I don't think I felt like that at the time, but maybe I was just being... I think I maybe was wrong, or maybe I'm remembering wrong. Well, it was also Adele's debut, right? We talked a little bit about that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, so it's like an all-time episode. Yeah. And yet, you know, so back in the day, one of my jobs as head writer was to decide on which episode we submitted for the Emmys. And I remember Lorne submitted this one for show. And there was a real idea that this was the show for that year, which was the politics year.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And yet, as we talked through the season, there are other episodes that I like a great deal more on the writing side, even though we're gonna talk about sketches I like, just the writing that played hotter. And I feel regret about my decision while also knowing no matter what I picked, The Daily Show was gonna win. Yeah, that was so sad. Every year.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And by the way, every year, and I wanna stress, I'm sure The Daily Show had an exceptional 2008. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is so funny all these years later to be like, ah, should have picked Hathaway or Ham. You're just like, it didn't matter. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But it is fun to know that all these years later, still in my head, I'm like that. Cause if there was every year I thought sitting at the Emmys we had a shot, it was this year. Well, the cultural impact of SNL that year was massive. Yes. Undeniably. Can we also just talk about how at the Emmys, at the particular Emmys that you go to for these awards,
Starting point is 00:14:44 they tend to do the biggest groups, like all the writers from SNL, big, big writing staffs at the end because people will leave if they don't win. So you have to stay till the very end. Yeah, it was really late. And also you can't drink alcohol, so it stinks. I will say the nice tale of it was, oh, I just might not be an award we're gonna win
Starting point is 00:15:05 after that year. You know what I mean? Like, and you know, our future, we would have some nice wins with songwriting and that was a perfectly lovely way for things to turn out. Got some WGA awards, those are cool. We did get a, I do believe we got a WGA award this year, which was very nice.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I'll tell you something, a true story. I was sitting next to Lauren a year we won a WGA award and Lauren has never been to a WGA award before this or after, but he received a lifetime achievement award that year and so he was actually at the awards. And when we won the WGA award that year, Lauren did a little fist pump. Did he really?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Not that anyone can see that, but you do it for us? I don't know how it... Really? Wow. Nice tight little pump. Just a tight little pump. Never a moment that I wished that we were showing video of this more than just now.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That was great. Yeah. It was, but I only did that for the Zoom box. I'm pretty sure it was like a fist pump, like in his lap. Like I think it was not to be seen. It was like a little instinctual fist pump. He still thinks to this day no one saw, but you just blew up his spot.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I want him to know. How was his lifetime achievement? Because I will say the WGA award, this is real ego-y and shitty. But it's the nicest looking award to me. I like that award. It's a beautiful award. It's a death trap for kids.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It looks like a murder weapon. Yeah. Lauren's speech, I don't remember, but I remember that Downey presented it to him. And Downey was so funny. And I remember one of his jokes was, Lauren made sure that he always gave opportunities to people to be writers that never had opportunities before. People like the children of celebrities, Harvard graduates. of opportunities to people to be writers that never had opportunities before. People like the children of celebrities, Harvard graduates, and the British.
Starting point is 00:16:51 This episode of the London Island podcast is brought to you by our friends at Makers Mark. And I'm with some of my friends right now. Hi, guys. Hello. Hi. You know, Margie Samuels was a spirited woman. She was also the co-founder of Makers Mark. I don't have to tell you guys this stuff. No. No, we. Hello. Hi. You know, Margie Samuels was a spirited woman.
Starting point is 00:17:05 She was also the co-founder of Maker's Mark. I don't have to tell you guys this stuff. No. No, we know it, but our listers might not, so continue. All right. Well, in honor of Women's History Month, we wanted to toast some of the spirited women in our lives. That was my idea, actually.
Starting point is 00:17:18 These guys were thinking about not doing it, and I was like, we should. Yeah. You are, in many ways, as trailblazing as Margie Margie Samuel's Yorm, and I've often said that. Well, I kept saying, I want to mark this day with a maker's mark. And you guys kept saying, what does that mean? I was like, it means a toast, guys. Way to land the plane, buddy.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Thank you, thank you, thank you, Seth. I want to tell a story about a spirited woman I saw during the 50th, and I was a little bit lucky because I was there on Friday for some rehearsal action. And I got to watch the Close Encounters rehearsal with Kate McKinnon. And I feel it's the most I've ever watched an actor's process.
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Starting point is 00:18:47 It was something we would do during our time at SNL. We went to Amsterdam once to hang out with my friends from Boom Chicago, which is the comedy theater I used to work at. And we went out of our way to make sure we booked an Airbnb because we knew that our evenings would end and we would want to go have a quiet hang with one another. And the bars were going to be closed and the hotel lobby was going to be closed.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But within Airbnb, we could find our way into a nice living room. We would have a kitchen where we bought the snacks we wanted to eat. Maybe had a fridge full of beverages, both adult and otherwise. And those times, that hang when we would all just settle in together was one of the things that made that trip extra special. And it was all thanks to Airbnb and what it provides that other places don't. So when you're looking for an authentic
Starting point is 00:19:35 or local experience, book your next awesome trip today at airbnb.com. So, you know, look, Fart, Face, and Fall are two of the most memorable sketches that did not play at all, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Fartface, did Fartface play badly? Cause I will say playing it for my 10 year old son
Starting point is 00:19:57 played pretty gangbusters. Fartface died. Fartface died so much that it died at dress and somehow made it to air. And the famous story that Hater tells is that right before... Very cool. Nice, buddy. Andy got Queen Bee mid my setup to a story.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I was still playing and I got it clean. And I got it clean. I'm still gonna text it to you, Seth, so there's a record of it. We go back through this on our deathbeds. That's on the fucking podcast. There's a record of it now. When we're on our deathbeds
Starting point is 00:20:24 and we're scrolling through our text chain. How many queen bees did I get? Before I go, I need to know how many queen bees I got. I only regret the time I spent with my family not chasing more bees. I gave up too soon, too many times. Just to take them to and from school. Wasted hours.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Just to take them to and from school. Wasted hours. The, oh, so Brolin said to Forte and Hader right before they did the sketch in air, let's shut these fuckers up. Yeah, they've been laughing too much. That's fucking killer. Is that real? That's real.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Oh my God. He knew it had died at dress and then it was going to air. It was right after Adele and Update, both red hot. So by the way, that's pale and rap closing update. Oh, let's shut these fuckers up. The audience is as hot, the first American audience ever to see Adele, into Weekend Update,
Starting point is 00:21:19 into a pale and rap, and then into Fartface, which a man who called his shot, not since Babe Ruth has anybody called the shot better than Josh Brolin saying, let's shut these fuckers up. That's so awesome. By the way, the level that they're selling it at feels like a guy who just said that to his team.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Like, let's fucking go. Like it is 150% that each of them is get, is screaming the word fart face for like five minutes. Well, here's how the sketch starts. And again, everybody go back and watch fart face, just because now that we give it the historical context it deserves. Interior office, Will stands at a table, Bill enters.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Hello, Jerry. Hello, fart face. Ready for the meeting? Jerry, so this again, huh? What's the matter, fart face? Jerry, it's been a week now, and I think it's about time you stopped calling me fart face. And why is that fart face?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because for your information, I'm not a fart face. Well, that's your opinion, fart face. No, that's a lot of people's opinions, Jerry. I mean, this is literally the most watched show in the history of SNL, because it has its finger on the pulse of politics. They have the same voice. Yeah. Everyone has the exact same voice. It's so fucking tough. I fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Let's shut these fuckers up. Oh, my God. Perfect! Really good shit. I would just argue, as with many forte pieces, often forte pieces with John Solomon, often pieces with John Solomon and Yoram Itokoni, they really hold up and stay on the test of time.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And I think there's a whole generation that holds them in the highest regard and sort of thinks of them, how we thought of them at the time, which is that they were the funniest shit ever. Yes, and by the way, this is Forte Hater. I remember these guys definitely walking around the office screaming fart farts at each other.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's like an album that does not quite get the attention it deserved at the time, but everybody at the record store is like, dude, you gotta listen to Fartface. Every single one of these is Paul's boutique. It is Paul's. Yeah, within five years, people are like, fuck. Yes, with that said, if Mike D or Ed Rock are listening, do not go watch Fartface.
Starting point is 00:23:23 No, Paul's boutique is better than Fartface. I'm not saying Fartface is the best of these. I'm just saying, you know, you get into things like Tate a Chip and Spelling Bee and you know, I've noticed that there is sort of a universal love and appreciation of this tone, more so than the live audiences were giving it at that time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's all. And then fall, the other thing about fall is this is sort of in the same way you were talking about a forte piece. James Anderson and Ken Siblett. Now, one of the things that's working against it, it's now the second half of the show, it is another office sketch.
Starting point is 00:23:55 So Fartface took place in the entirety of an office. And now it's just a different part of an office. It's a boardroom. And Josh Brolin comes in as the boss. He just gets caught talking about fall foliage. Okay, guys, sorry to keep you waiting. Train was late. Listen, before we begin,
Starting point is 00:24:14 can I please just take a moment to talk about the fall foliage? All the crimsons and golds and browns and golds and buttery golds and buttery browns. The buttery browns. Buttery browns, but that's what I mean. It still gets quotes, still gets quoted by us, not by the audience, by people who worked there.
Starting point is 00:24:32 But again, music, just music. Also it has a real surf meeting cadence to it. Has anyone seen the Fall Foliage? Quick, yes or no, starting with Tom, Fall Foliage, go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's amazing, you know what? I was seriously thinking of putting together a fall foliage getaway just for us,
Starting point is 00:24:54 just for everyone in this room to go and see the browns, the golds, and buttery golds. The golds and buttery golds. Who's interested? Quick, yes or no, starting with Tom, go. No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s interested? Quick yes or no, starting with Tom, go. No? No. No, it really is surf meeting.
Starting point is 00:25:05 No, it really is surf meeting. 100%. Oh my God, here we, and then now, again, it's that great James and Ken thing where, because if you haven't seen it, you need to see it. The toasted oranges, the buttery rusts. The buttery rusts! Buttery rusts!
Starting point is 00:25:19 Buttery rusts! And again, God, it's just dying. I'll pay all the expenses. I'll rent the car. I'll rent a van. I'll rent a very large van so we're all together. And I can point out the different foliage that I think everybody should be looking at. And after we've seen all the foliage,
Starting point is 00:25:37 if there's still time, we can go to a gourd farm and pick out some gourds and arrange them. Oh, my God. I love that there's also, this clearly came from actually doing this too. Going up leaf peeping, right? Which is a thing on the East coast in particular. Somebody said buttery rust in front of James Anderson
Starting point is 00:25:57 one time and it was over. That's all it took. He's like, oh yeah. That's like a buttery rust. But there you go. I mean, so again, here I am being like, uh, you know, echoing what Keef said. You're like, uh, it was the moment
Starting point is 00:26:10 where everybody was watching, but there's something, there's a real nobility about the fact that the show had a couple of sketches in there that really do stand the test of time. Ish. Ish. They stand the test of being memorable. Fun fact, this was the week that Noah Baumbach came by just to do one of those guest director, guest writer weeks and him and Fred and Bill had been cooking up some little short and
Starting point is 00:26:35 they filmed a short called New York Underground that I can't actually remember what it was about. But I know they had been chatting for like weeks or months about like, we should do something. And then Noah came in. There was a history of this through the years. Like Andy Warhol did one once. And before we were there, PTA directed one. And sometimes people just come in
Starting point is 00:26:52 who want to experience the week. It's a pretty cool thing to experience. Can I say something controversial? Yeah. I think Noah Baumbach and PTA make good movies. Whoa. How dare you? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, shots fired. Can I say something even more controversial? I think they make good movies. Whoa. How dare you. Whoa. Yeah. Shots fired. Shots fired. Can I say something even more controversial? I think they make great movies. Is it more like guns holstered? Gun holstered as opposed to shots fired. Oh yeah, cause it's the opposite. Oh, gun holstered. Cause it was like the most peaceful,
Starting point is 00:27:19 peaceful, nice thing. Safety on. Yeah, exactly. Nerf gun holstered. Ham shows up. We all know him as Don Draper. Everybody dresses up as a Mad Men character. We've never did this before, for my knowledge never did it since. We all dress up like we are working at Sterling Draper Price. Yes, and I think I've already mentioned this, but I hadn't seen Mad Men yet and did a bad
Starting point is 00:27:40 job of dressing up as Mad Men. And he told me years later he noticed when I told him I had finally watched Mad Men. He's like, oh yeah, I could tell. How'd you dress? I think I was in like, probably like a baggy button up, like a polka dot tie or something, I don't know. You thought it was crazy, dudes. You thought it took place in an insane asylum.
Starting point is 00:27:58 We didn't take this seriously. We didn't take the asylum seriously, yeah. I'll tell you how un-seriously I took it. As a writer, I'm like, he doesn't know who I am. I just will leave the room. And I didn't dress at all and just made myself scarce. I didn't want to mess up the bit, but I was like, no one's going to notice if I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah. So I was not. It was a delight. He was a delight. The show was great. And looking at it, the writers' names who are on this episode is a real reminder that it was Anne Golden era, not just for cast,
Starting point is 00:28:27 but writers as well. Downey wrote a cold open, Simon and Mullaney wrote the ham monologue. And then trick or treat, Jeff Montgomery, the first appearance of Jeff Montgomery. A perfect sketch. Sorry, I was looking at the Mad Men picture. Yes, I was remembering,
Starting point is 00:28:43 because I couldn't remember if I dressed up and I did. I think I look pretty good. Yeah, you're not bad. All right, we're looking at the Mad Men picture. Yes, I was remembering, because I couldn't remember if I dressed up and I did. I think I look pretty good. Yeah, you're not bad. All right, we're looking at it now? Yeah, I think I look good. Oh yeah, you're fine, Andy. Yeah. You're fine. You know what I think happened though?
Starting point is 00:28:53 I think wardrobe helped out. Oh yeah. And I've got a little cigarette. I mean, it's a bummer right now, Keef, that you're not in this picture. Yeah. That's true. Is Yorm in there? I'm in there, I'm in the back.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Oh yeah, there you are. A little shrimpy, yeah. So yeah, I just hid for the picture. Like, well, I'm not gonna ruin their picture, but I'm also not gonna put on a tie. I'm too tired. I will say that Sudeikis most looks like he could be on Mad Men. Lutz.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Lutz, Sudeikis, Lutz and- Lutz really is pulling it off. Yeah, Seds does look right. Mulaney. And Bobby too, and Bobby. Yeah. Yeah, Bobby could. And Bill down there with his wig on.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, Bill's doing a Peggy or who's he? Joan? Can't quite remember who Bill's doing. This is good podcast material, just four guys looking at a picture and talking about it. The amount that I'm trying to do the podcast, and you guys are like, hold on, I'm looking at a picture. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Fuck you, Seth, you fucking elitist bitch. Ha ha ha. Every one of you just goes glassy eyed as I'm trying to set up there. You remember this thing we've been talking about for weeks that we need to do? Somebody put a picture in the chat. It's not about the short, Seth. I want to look at the picture.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You started it. Jeff Montgomery, Trick or Treat. You guys remember Jeff Montgomery? Oh my God, it's a classic. I think it's a pedophile sketch. Yeah, it's a pedophile sketch, but this one absolutely threads that needle. If somebody said I'm working on a pedophile sketch,
Starting point is 00:30:13 you wouldn't be excited, but this one threads the needle. This is Jost Solo or worked with Forte? Jost Forte Solomon, but it feels like there's some Jostian flares, flourishes. Sure, sure. Jostian flares, flourishes. Sure, sure. Jostian flares are when he wears bell bottoms. Which he probably does next time we have dinner. Of course he does, he has.
Starting point is 00:30:32 His stylist has got him all up in those flares. After the Kendrick Super Bowl, it's all that's in his closet now. Oh my God, what was the outfit he wore that we just laid into him for the entirety of the dinner? Was it like the flight suit? No, he was in like a motorcycle jacket and leather pants. And had driven up on a motorcycle in his defense.
Starting point is 00:30:52 We were just like, all right. He also, he came to another one you weren't at and he came in a full jumpsuit. And he said, was like, sorry I'm late, I just got off a plane. And I think Klein was like, as the pilot? Yeah. Yeah. and then the kid was like, sorry I'm late, I just got off a plane, and I think Klein was like, as the pilot? Uh...
Starting point is 00:31:09 So, Ham, what a perfect straight man in this sketch. Couple of kids, getting some candy, and then Forte shows up looking like a pedophile, like members only jacket, mustache, uh, glasses. And then immediately his first line is real Joe's plus Forte plus Solomon writing. Trick or treat. Can I help you?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Well, that depends. Do you have any Kit Kat bars? Heck, I'll take anything without toffee. It's a real bitch on the fillings. Hey, don't call me a bitch. You're the bitch, bitch. What? Right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I'm immediately insane. With that said though, in the best way, cause this is a premise sketch, this line does not serve the premise, but it's comedy and people are super enjoying it. Yes, at this point you think it's just a sketch about a crazy guy coming to the door on Halloween. And then Ham says,
Starting point is 00:31:57 aren't you a little old to be trick or treating? And then Will says, is 43 too old to be in the Halloween spirit? And by spirit, I don't mean ghost, I'm not that old. What? And then spirit, I don't mean ghost. I'm not that old. What? And then Ham just leaves. It shuts the door on him. And then Will immediately rings the doorbell again.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Says, I'm new to the neighborhood. Sorry for being so awkward. John, that's quite all right. Jeff Montgomery, pleased to meet you. And then John's like, once again, didn't make up for my behavior, but will you accept a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup? Forte starts taking every single piece of candy
Starting point is 00:32:28 out of the bowl. Another thing that just gets a laugh that is not really the premise yet. Yep. And then, by the way, we're only a minute in. So this sketch flies to the premise. John, out of curiosity, what exactly is your Halloween costume?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Deadpan will, I'm a sex offender. Excuse me? I'm a sex offender. For Halloween. A sex offender. Yes, pretty convincing, huh? Here, watch this. I'm Jeff Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:32:58 By law, I'm required to inform you that I'm a repeat sex offender, and I'll be living in your neighborhood. It's a great costume, right? Couldn't you sign and date these, please? Oh, man. It's so dark. John, what am I signing?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Will, laughing, oh, you'll get a kick out of this. You see, as part of my costume, I'm having everyone sign this form, acknowledging that there's a sex offender living in the neighborhood, et cetera, et cetera. Damn it. And then John, let's just be clear on something. Is sex offender your Halloween costume or are you fulfilling a legal obligation
Starting point is 00:33:35 to declare yourself a sex offender? Will, Bob, lighten up. It's Halloween. And then, because I'm reading the air script where you can see if something new is written in. This is a line added between dresser air. And oftentimes between dresser air, you are either cutting something that didn't work
Starting point is 00:33:53 or just trying to beat something that didn't work. This is a rare case of they just added this line that gets a big laugh between dress and air. So nothing was broken. They just made it a little bit better. This was in, Bob, lighten up, it's Halloween. This is added. Besides, this is a tradition. I do it anytime I move to a new town.
Starting point is 00:34:12 John, are you Jeff Montgomery, a registered sex offender? Will, am I Jeff Montgomery, a registered sex offender, on Halloween? Yes. John, what about not on Halloween? Yes, even when it's not Halloween, I'm still Jeff Montgomery. Oh God. John, a sex offender?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Look, you're missing the point here, Bob. The point is Halloween spirit, the point is trick or treat, the point is could you sign those papers? All right, okay. John, one last chance that I will check with the police on this, do you have a criminal record?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Absolutely not. If I'm guilty of any crime, it's the crime of sexually assaulting five teenagers. Oh, ugh. Then I know you have to do that for the podcast. You have to be like, oh. Oh. By the way, I'm sure the first draft was worse.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It's both. But then, cause this line exactly gets a reaction from the audience, everybody's like, oh, and the two of them just stare at each other. Now we all know Forte is never gonna break. One of the all time great stares. John Hamm's ability to stare back at him. The two of them just staring at each other.
Starting point is 00:35:22 There is a rolling laugh and it is two guys just crushing it by doing nothing except saying in the moment. Yep. And then last line of the sketch. Now this is gonna sound like a terrible segue, but are you? What do you think a terrible segue might be? Oh, I know it now.
Starting point is 00:35:40 But are you looking for a baby? Yeah. Jesus. God damn it, it's very funny. I'm gonna tell you one of the nicest things about reading this script again, eight pages. I mean, not a second of fat on this thing. Yeah, that's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:53 It's a beauty. To be clear, that's on the short side of a SNL sketch. They can get up there. Yeah, eight for a sketch that feels like a full sketch is very hard to do. Agreed. I feel like they always feel like, oh, that was a short one.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I don't even remember that sketch as a short one. They're not written in traditional screenplay format for those at home paying attention who know that stuff. It's its own kind of format that does stretch the page a little longer. Yeah, for all you final draft heads. It's like double spaced at least. For all you FDXers out there.
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Starting point is 00:40:05 to receive free dessert. Hey, could you pop me over to Seth's Corner real quick? Seth's Corner, you're all invited. Seth's Corner, it's happening right now. Take it away, Seth. I read a couple of things. One, what's the cold open? Address and then got moved into the body of the show.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And it was a sketch. I remember I loved rehearsing because it was pretty much all of us. It was Fred is Obama and my husband, Michelle Obama. And they were basically doing a concert because they were so far ahead. They were definitely gonna win. And so it was just a lot of them singing a solid as Barack.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It was a lot of fun of them doing songs. Andy, you were in it as Rahm Emanuel. You sang Our House with Kristen as Nancy Pelosi. Was that my first Rahm? I think it must've been. Yeah. Bobby as Barney Frank. Jason as Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So again, we're getting the whole crew in there. My favorite moment re-watching it was, things are going so well in the polls, where you're even gonna see Reverend Jeremiah Wright and University of Illinois at Chicago professor Bill Ayers. Those were two of the problematic people. That was where like the Fox News would rant about those people.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then what I forgot that they were sitting exactly like CeeLo and Danger Mouse and saying, white devils be crazy. You'll even see Reverend Jeremiah Wright and University of Illinois at Chicago Professor Bill Ayers. -♪ White devils be crazy! White devils be crazy! That was very fun. But I remember rehearsing that. We were all on the floor.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Ham was in it. And it was the last thing we rehearsed. And it was that night Amy had her baby, because this was late Friday. And we were all doing the blocking for this sketch, and we were all laughing very hard. It was one of those really nice nights where everybody was together.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And I remember that Fred and Maya were doing a bit where it was like the SNL 80th. Oh, yeah. Where they were coming on stage as like really old people doing Noonie, the Noonie sketch. I remember that. And it's so funny that that was whatever, 15 years before the 50th.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's like so much closer to being true now, but it was a lot of like Fred being like, Noonie, hello, Noonie. Hello, Noonie. Hello, Noonie. Me and Fred during blocking used to do a bit where we'd come out and pretend like we were hosting years in the future also, but the bit was, I'm back and now it's my time.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I'm gonna stand on center stage and everyone has to listen to me. And it's just me by myself. That's great shit. I have a question for you cast guys. When it was a big cold open like that and everyone's in makeup and sometimes difficult makeup, did it make the then next part of the show really exciting? Cause then everyone has to like break out
Starting point is 00:43:09 and get into like crazy quick changes. It's fun. Everybody takes off running. Like anytime there was like a what up with that where there's like a ton of cast and different wigs and costumes. That's why it's often after update because the departments have a lot of time to get ready. Oh, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Takes longer to put on than take off. Correct. And then when those sketches end, they find it's easy as just the stage manager yells cops and everybody scrambles. Ditch the cake. There was one more assessed corner, which is John Ham's John Ham.
Starting point is 00:43:41 John Ham's John Ham, I don't remember a lot of the times when I had the inspiration for a sketch, but I remember the exact moment I came up with John Ham's John Ham. John Ham's John Ham, I don't remember a lot of the times when I had the inspiration for a sketch, but I remember the exact moment I came up with John Ham's John Ham. By the way, I'm not like talking about it like it's incredible or anything. You're proud. No, but it's memorable, it's stuck around.
Starting point is 00:43:54 It's okay to be proud. I love it. We were at La Tansy. You can read an article in the Wall Street Journal about La Tansy, which is where- New York Times, New York Times. New York Times, excuse me. I read it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's where Lorne takes the host for the host dinners every Tuesday night. Seth, correct me if I'm wrong, but when we worked there, that was a secret. Oh, I think that might be the end of Lorne going to La Tonsie. Yeah, the fact that there's paparazzi outside now and stuff, it was so low-key when we worked there.
Starting point is 00:44:20 It's not like a super fancy restaurant. It was a cool restaurant because nobody knew about it. Why did we go? We went once, you and me, Keith. We went once before a season started. We had a writer's dinner. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And I think I've talked about this, but the first time I went was the night I found out I got hired. And me and Bill were there. That's the night I met Conan O'Brien because he was randomly also there. That's fucking cool. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:44:43 What'd you order? I'm sure like 10 steaks. Nice. I was like, I got to get this while I can. the night I met Conan O'Brien, because he was randomly also there. That's fucking cool. Pretty good. Yeah, what'd you order? I'm sure like 10 steaks. Nice. I was like, I gotta get this while I can. We, but we were at La Tansi and I went, I was hanging out, we were talking, we were at the dinner, Andy and I were at the dinner,
Starting point is 00:44:54 and John Ham was at the dinner, because that was obviously what we did at the host dinner. And then you had to go back to the office and write. And I remember I went to the bathroom on our way out, and I walked out of the bathroom and saw Andy, and I said, I just had a sketch idea. John Ham's John Ham, the ham you can eat in the bathroom and you said, write it up.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't remember that. John Ham, two minutes, again, in and out, doesn't waste any time and I am, I rewatched it and it made me happy. How long did it take you to write Seth, be honest? I think it probably wrote, I wrote it in the time it took you to watch it. I can talk about it without the worry
Starting point is 00:45:28 of having been the one to write it, Seth. It's a perfect host piece. It's a moment that Jon Hamm as an idea is red hot in the world, and everyone's super amped that he's on, and everyone loves Mad Men, except me, because I hadn't seen it. But it was like, it just immediately is what SNL is about.
Starting point is 00:45:47 You know, they've been writing sketches like that the whole time, and that's a huge part of why the show is fun. And you nailed the assignment, and everyone laughed and he loved it. And I had forgotten that the tagline of the product was, if it feels like a slice of ham, don't wipe your ass with it.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Wait. Again, this is, it's just like when you make a, like, a very dumb writing choice and a slice of ham, don't wipe your ass with it. Wait. Again, it's just like when you make a very dumb writing choice and you kind of forget you made it. The website was John Ham's John Ham slash ham.ham.ham.com. There were two dot ham. I will also say in rewatching it too, because it's live and whatever light they have on him
Starting point is 00:46:24 and gleaming in his eyes, he's so fucking handsome in this suit. And I'm partially saying this because I know he listens to the putt, but. I was happy it was live. It also feels like, you know, it's like a cheap product that you don't necessarily need to do, you know, the cinematography on or anything.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's true, but yeah, he looks good. Again, if you're watching the two minute Jon Hamm sketch, a minute in, he does call out that it is just because his name sounds like it. Yeah. Now, I know what you're thinking, that I'm only endorsing John Hamm because John Hamm is also my name. Well, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You're dead wrong. First of all, my last name has two M's, and second of all, my first name doesn't have an H. Feel like a dummy yet? Out of Seth's corner now into, First of all, my last name has two M's, and second of all, my first name doesn't have an H. Feel like a dummy yet? Out of Seth's Corner now into, there's a really nice A-holes, which is a crossover with Mad Men.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's a period piece, A-holes. And both Elizabeth Moss and John Slattery play themselves. Oh, that's fun. Which is lovely. I believe Elizabeth Moss is playing herself because Amy was playing Peggy in the sketch. And then when Amy had a baby, we realized Elizabeth Moss was at the show
Starting point is 00:47:29 and she stepped in and played herself. Oh, that's awesome. Yep, fantastic. Again, I remember Lizzie and Slattery being in the sketch and everyone being like, whoa! And being like, oh, I bet if I had seen it, this would be cool. You really want to hammer home that you hadn't seen Mad Men.
Starting point is 00:47:45 He's seen it now. Yeah. And I talk about that it, this is my opinion, similar to the Bomback and PTA thing. I think it's one of the best shows ever made. Whoa. Oh, shots. Gun holstered.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah, I actually think it's really good. And you've seen West Wing now too. So you would have been like, that's Bartlett's daughter. Exactly. Although I watched them in reverse order, both during COVID. So I was like, whoa, Peggy is Bartlett's daughter? That was what I heard. I had that same experience in that regard.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I also now that I'm realizing, because I didn't know Slattery would be there, originally a dress, certainly not at the table, then I think a dress, we added John Slattery, John Slattery, which were Venetian blinds for a toilet. That didn't work because nobody calls Venetian blind slatteries. Right, right. It was a bridge too far.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it did, we did try it. And I was very happy he was in a holes because even he knew after we did it, it was fully getting cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a Vincent Price Halloween special. Fuck, loaded up.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, that's pretty saucy. Jon Hamm was JFK at dress. He had played JFK in the Obama thing, the ghost of JFK, and between dress and air, Lauren asked him to play James Mason, and we had to rewrite it for James Mason. And also Jon Hamm had to do a James Mason impression after never having done one, and it was great.
Starting point is 00:49:04 His first time doing it, doing it live on air. I remember everybody talking about that and being like, oh, not people at home, but at the show being like, oh my God, that's even a step beyond a dream host, where it was like, oh, that's something very difficult for even a really good cast member to do, and really cementing his status as, like, someone who's gonna be asked back frequently.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I also do remember the moment where Lorne was like, -"Can you switch?" And he was like, -"Yep." Oh, that's also why. Because I think we all saw it happen in the room, too. Yeah, wow. So, you know, it was a public ice man just sort of giving a nod of, like, -"And he's handsome?" -"Ugh."
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, I know. I want to just clarify that it sounded like Yoram just said, -"And he's handsome, and I'm going to accept that. Oh. And he had just realized it and was upset. He looked over at your Zoom square for the first time and went, oh, Andy's handsome?
Starting point is 00:49:52 God damn it. I also thought he said it. No, I looked at my sleeve and it says Andy's handsome. Like, well, what kind of chance does a guy like me have? But here's how I heard it. I thought he said it though. I also heard Andy, but I heard it as a slam like he was like,
Starting point is 00:50:06 and you were telling me Andy's handsome? No, I read it on my arm, guys, so I could tell you guys apart. Oh, it's your mnemonic device. Andy's handsome, lower left. Andy's handsome, Akiva's smart. Seth is a coastal elite. Akiva wears glasses.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Seth has teeth. Seth is never hungover. Keeva wears glasses. Seth has teeth. Seth is never hungover. I'm your, I'm your upper right. Andy's handsome is one of his tattoos? Yeah, yeah, that's how I remember it. Yeah, that's what he had read. And it disappointed him. Because then he deduced which one was Andy and went,
Starting point is 00:50:40 that's what I wrote, that's the tattoo, okay, I guess it worked. Andy's handsome. Oh my God. Andy's speaking again, the handsome one's speaking. But your tone was with disdain and disappointment. Ugh, Andy's handsome? Hey, you write Seth has teeth
Starting point is 00:50:55 was the best you could come up with for me. I just looked at your face, you do have teeth. Yeah, you have them. It's true though. Even the guy giving you your memento tattoos, we're like, you don't have got something better for your friend Seth? I think you should write something else, man. I don't think that's gonna help you
Starting point is 00:51:09 the way you think it's gonna help you. This is permanent. You know this is permanent, right? You're like, he's okay. I'm looking at the real rundown that you've been looking at Seth now. And I just want to point out that Ross Trent, Ross Trent was called digital short colon Rasta man.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Oh. We would never say Rasta Man. So that one doesn't make any sense to me at all because you're not burying the joke. No, somebody watched it and went, ah, put in that Rasta Man sketch. You don't think that was a game of telephone? Like we said what it was and then they were like,
Starting point is 00:51:39 ah, just fucking write that down. Who would have chosen those sorts of things at that time, Seth? I don't, I bet, I feel like that's... Higgins? Maybe, but I don't know. We must have not given one, and they needed one to put in there, and they didn't bother to ask us.
Starting point is 00:51:51 So they went to somebody in the film unit, that would be what I would guess, and said, what do we call it? I know this, if it was called Rasta Man, it's not Criterion. But it wasn't called that, that's the thing! I'm just saying, if it was, I couldn't vote for it. When we were just back for Sushi Glory Hall,
Starting point is 00:52:07 the rundown just said, digital short, or Andy's song. And I was like, yeah, that's about right. You've been there, you know, doing your political, you know, soft shoe for them. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. So they were like, and now Andy's got one of his little songs. Right between the eyes, Keef. Here's Andy's song.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Akiva, I auditioned with a hundred other guys for Doug. And I just had the best take, brother. I don't know what to tell you. Everyone was like, he is Doug. That's the thing. Hey, we've said it a lot, but the end of update was Keenan and Maya coming out and singing, we love you, Amy.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yeah. And we just can't wait to meet your baby. And it's really sweet. And then I hate it so much because then I stand up and I'm wearing jeans on the bottom, which I used to do a lot. And I'm just like, ugh, wear a fucking suit. You piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Wear a fucking suit, you piece of shit. Although certainly it's come full circle now that I don't even wear a suit for my talk show. Yeah, let's break that down, dude. Let's get into that. But we picked it up. That was the Jon Hamm episode that we wanted to revisit because we didn't get to it after our Ross Trent episode.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And next week, again, this was just a fun time of getting first time hosts who would then come back again and again and again, Paul Rudd. Oh, wow. Who is of course at the time, a five timer. Wait, it was Brolin Ham Rudd all in a row. How about that? And I think Hathaway right before it, nuts.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Really good talk. Nuts. Good season. But let's not detract from Ham. Ham, great host. Great host, handsome man. And you know, a lot of people probably like, why didn't you get a voice note from Ham? Here's what I would like.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Ham, I know, listens to the pod, listen to it, John, and then leave us a voice note clarifying anything. The main point being, did you think Andy was a bad madman and did you notice that Keev left the room? He's like, where's that guy from that Just Two Guys sketch? I've been on E-Bombs world watching Just Two Guys for the last three days prepping to get- Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Thank you for that reference, Keith. E-bombs world, oh boy. Fuckin' hell. I love that. I mean, Yoram, Chris Martin, when we were back this fall, when he was talking to me and Keev was like, where's the third one? Nice.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah. I love Chris. Oh, by the way, the five in a row, Hathaway, Brolin, Ham, Affleck, Rudd, find me five better SNL hosts in a row. Never. Don't try to do it by memory. It would be nuts if this was what Yorma nailed. Season 27!
Starting point is 00:54:39 All right, well, we'll pick it up next week. Love you guys. Love you. Love you.

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