The Luke and Pete Show - 2 cats and a Nazi doc

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Fresh off a Football Ramble tour, the lads recap a monster journey back from Glasgow, including a five-hour delay, a detour through Edinburgh, and a run-in with a wildly unpredictable couple... who produced not one but two cats mid-journey. Pete and Vish witnessed it all, while Luke, blissfully unaware, sat back with noise-cancelling headphones and a Nazi documentary.Elsewhere, the lads get stuck into Glastonbury chat, Luke’s actively praying for a washout, and then take a deep dive into what really makes someone a nepo baby. Does Matty Healy owe it all to his soap-star parents? And if Pete’s daughter ends up in the spotlight, does having two radio DJ parents automatically seal her fate? The lads investigate.Email us at hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's snitches all over this daycare. It's the Luke and Pete show. Pete Olson joined by Mr. Lukey Moore. I am... I am... You're Ham. John Ham. He's good, isn't he? John Ham. John Ham. Very good. Have you watched that show where he's a big thief running around on Netflix? On Apple TV, actually. Must cancel that that subscription I do it every time, every time there's a severance you get it for a month Apple TV then I turn it right off and then I need to turn off the John Hamm show as well. No I haven't seen it, I've only really seen him in Mad Men which I didn't stick through to the end on.
Starting point is 00:00:37 He does very good, it's a nicely written. He's good in Bridesmaids I have to say that. Good in Bridesmaids, he's very good at the old comedy. I will say that most TV shows nowadays, like, I think most TV shows I've seen recently are just rich people stuff. Like, it's just, you know, funny little gentle little shows filmed in utter opulence. People going to hotels, you know, White Lotus and that one with Tina Faye in where they just go around the world on holiday. Well, Saturday Night Live is mainly a studio based sketch show but erm... I know yeah, I was joking. But the John Hamm one is definitely, you know, a man drives around in a Maserati or whatever,
Starting point is 00:01:26 waxing, lyrical. There's a new one in there, Big Zoo and AJ Tracy doing one. Big Zoo and AJ Tracy, let's have a look. Rich Flavours it's called, they go around the world trying to find the most expensive meals. I mean, I'm not even funny, right? And I'm not suggesting that either of us have got the talent of AJ Tracy or Big Zoo, right? I get it, I get them, fine. But I've always been told, for getting on
Starting point is 00:01:51 for three or four years now, that TV's dead and it's really hard to get stuff commissioned, right? How are you getting that commissioned? What we do is we go around the world, eat in, right, fine, but it's the most expensive meals you can find yeah so what is but it is I mean it's quite cheap isn't it television really you just you just paying their visa paying paying like so Big Zoo's kind of got a bit of background in food I suppose hasn't he but I'm unfamiliar with all of his all of his work I, it's a BBC worldwide production. Is Big Zoo an international act? He isn't, is he? He's just kind of British, isn't he? Maybe he's contracted to the BBC though, that's why he's getting this.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And AJ Tracey is from Ladbroke Love. It's not the kind of show, I think him and AJ Tracey might be from the same place. AJ Tracey is from West London as well. It's not the kind of show I would normally watch, right? But I kind of get it. I'm not saying it won't be good. I'm sure it will be quite good. In fact, I say it's not the kind of show I normally watch. I really enjoyed the trip. So it's kind of similar to that really. But I'm just saying that you're saying to me, the answer to my question is the fact that it's probably quite a small budget show. But my response to that would be, well, they are flying to the Far East
Starting point is 00:03:08 and finding the most expensive meals they can find. I mean, it doesn't seem like it's cheap. That's only gonna be 200 quid or go. And it'll probably be discussed with wherever hotel they're gonna be staying in, that they're gonna eat the most expensive things. So then that accentuates that it'll all be paid for. Oh, you're letting people be on the cart of the entertainment industry now Peter.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It'll all be comped I'm sure but yeah. But you were gonna say something else then we started off on John Hamm and then we got onto this. I can't remember. I don't think we have much of an excuse to ease ourselves into a little bit of chat about John Hamm to be honest because he's he's a delicious funny man and I very much enjoy his work. How have you been, Lukey Moe? Not bad. We've kind of just, we've been recording this a little while in the past for people listening, when they're listening on... Only about a week I think.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Only about a week, yeah, a few days. Because we're all over the place at the moment, that's why. We are all over the place. This is a pit stop this recording. We've been doing studio shows in that there, Glasgow, We've been doing tour shows all over the UK. I have some delicious bruises I'm going to show you tomorrow when we get into a studio again. Oh well because you've been marauding around on stage. Been marauding around on stage.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah I've got a big bruise on my bum and a big bruise on my back and you're going to be seeing both of them. Okay I'm happy with that. All right. That's fine with me. But that's not as impressive. We had a monster journey back from Glasgow yesterday, didn't we? Oh, I was very close to just getting off and living in York. A testament to the crumbling infrastructure of this nation. It was, Gasgore, can't go from Glasgow, cause there's a train that's stuck, stranded on a track.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's gonna take five hours to remove it. As if this problem hasn't reared its head before. One night question. This sounds a bit like a Thomas the Tank Engine story I read to my son. It really is, but at least Thomas the Tank Engine stories start, middle and end, that lasts about 15 minutes, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I would say that then we had to go over to Edinburgh. Turns out there are a lot of little towns in between Edinburgh and Glasgow. Why did it take so long? Why are there so many stops? Why are there so many little villages in between? I mean beautiful picturesque villages has to be said between Glasgow and Edinburgh but I just feel like there doesn't need to be that many stops. One of the stops was Bells Hill home of the Teenage Farring Club. Is it now right okay. Yeah I'd like to have stopped there and found out I don't know where you lived. Me and Vish were in one side of the carriage when we finally got on the Edinburgh to London Kings Cross train and you guys were in
Starting point is 00:05:43 another so we were treated to what can only be described as a couple of to London Kings Cross train and you guys are in another. So we were treated to what can only be described as a couple of absolute lunatics. Can you tell us the story? Cause I wasn't in the carriage, but it sounds funny. There were just these, like it was a couple. One was like a, I described as an otaku, kind of Western otaku, like so an absolute fucking dweebusoid nerd who goes to Japan.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah, I've never even heard that phrase before when you said it. Otaku, it just means like a person who likes anime or manga or that sort of stuff. I thought that was a weebo. Exactly, well, exactly. No, I mean that otaku is just kind of like a person in Japan who likes that sort of thing. Weibo is very much like someone who just takes it too far. Japanese love pillows, DMs to Japanese female wrestlers, stuff like that. Oh so if we're not, because I call my wife as a joke a weebo all the time, am I being offensive am I? Not unless she's actually a weebo, I don't know. But I would say she's absolutely fine, I'm sure. But this guy was like the biggest nerd who ever nerded in the sort of bloke you see in
Starting point is 00:06:52 Akihabara. You know, the same body shape as me, little pot belly, bald head, but still hair on the sides. I've definitely got either of those things. Hair on the sides. I've definitely got one of those things. And he was wearing like a sort of anime Nicki Minaj top and a sort of denim sort of overcoat. How old? I'd say he was about 35, but he probably looked a bit older. His partner was a woman who had shed a Barbie top on and she had like and she was deaf but this has nothing to do the story but it did make the communication
Starting point is 00:07:35 between the two quite difficult because she had a cold so she insisted on wearing a mask so obviously a lot of her a lot of her words aren't necessarily forming all that well so she kept on pulling down her mask, say the word, obviously a volume that is louder than you would usually but that's a deaf person, that's how they talk, but nothing to do with that anyway but it just added to the general chaos of the image of the two and one of them and the blog was the main one who would just constantly get up from his seat and just fart about, just constantly ants in his pants farting about. This is very rich hearing this story from you. Farting about.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You weren't sitting in one space for longer than about 10 minutes. Well I sat on a train for 11 hours, two, three trains. Yeah, just constantly farting about. A woman goes to sit down and he goes to go and help her, but his partner pulls him back as if he's done it really badly before. It's like he's really fucked it up. Oh really? And he's just constantly just wittering on about fuck all. And he's up and down the vestibule. And then halfway through the journey, they pull, like, the carriage is starting to fill
Starting point is 00:08:52 up. They produce two cats out of nowhere. Two cats in a carrier. Actual cats. Actual cats. Plonk them on their desk, taking up all of the table with two massive cats and they're constantly worrying about whether they're sitting in the right seat. They're not sitting in the right seat, they don't have a reservation. So
Starting point is 00:09:12 they're just like, is this anyone's seat? Is this anyone's seat? I was like, oh my god, either sit in the seat or don't sit in the seat, but just don't constantly worry about it. And also, where did he get the cats from? Like they were just, the cats were just on a massive journey from from from Edinburgh to they didn't open the doors of the carry cases so the cats could get out or anything no that would be most unwelcome well I actually moved I didn't it was just pre cat arriving luckily because I'm very allergic to cats so that would have been a terrible end to my journey with my chest at the moment. So yeah, it was a, it was a, it was a, I don't know how people live their lives sometimes.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I really don't. It was, I mean, it's the last thing you need given the actual interminable nature of the journey itself. And I find that when you do a live show, you're pumped, right? And then it's really difficult to sleep. So you end up, I just end up watching stuff on Netflix till like two in the morning before I can really difficult to sleep. So you end up just watching stuff on Netflix till like two in the morning, probably eventually go to sleep and you have to wake up early because you got to travel somewhere else. It's just, it's just a terrible combination. I've got so many
Starting point is 00:10:12 first world problems. Unbelievable Peter. Oh, nevermind. But I, but for perspective, I left, I left the hotel at quarter past 10 yesterday morning and I walked in the door at 20 past seven. yesterday morning and I walked in the door at 20 past 7. Yeah, I was a half hit man. That was the... Bloody hell. It's just the way it is, isn't it? It's just the way it is. But yeah, I was very much, I was Googling enterprise car hire
Starting point is 00:10:37 who have a branch in Leon C. I'm Blanford Enterprise, aren't I? And I was gonna jump off in York and get to Leeds and Bradford Airport to rent a car. That is an insane plan. Absolutely insane. On more than one occasion, on our third train of the day or second train of the day or whatever, they were saying they weren't going to get down the line. And I was just, you know, I was just working with the hand I'd been dealt.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Well, I didn't know that because I had the noise canceling headphones in and was watching a documentary about Nazis. Oh, lovely. I had no clue about that. I know it kept stopping, but I had no clue it was actually going to happen. But your problem with the... Well, I can do Enterprise because they won't take me as a customer anymore. But if you had hired one from there, you'd have to have dropped it off, what, presumably
Starting point is 00:11:20 in the South End, would you? Yeah, because you dropped it in Leon's Sea. We got one not that far away. Showing off. Showing off. And there was a big street party while you were away as well wasn't there? It was yeah and when the neighbours attached a massive Union Jack to my car, two Union Jacks in fact, I thought by the time I got home they would have removed it but no for the last four days I've had a Union Jack like flagpole like looking like some kind
Starting point is 00:11:49 of BMP councillor on my car all weekend I'm surprised my windscreen got smashed. Very nice. How did you enjoy the trip though Peter all round? I did enjoy the trip. It was loads of fun. Apart from the bruising, apart from the visible bruising, it was a lot of fun. Nice to hang out with everybody. Nice. I enjoyed the robot servants in our hotel. That was weird. I got, so just so people listening know, we stayed in the particular brand of hotel, was it the Maldron chain of hotels?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah. Straight in the Maldron. It's not very good. It's okay. It's fine. It's good. What's wrong with it? It's got a gymnasium. It's got a gymnasium place to put your stuff. So there's budget hotels and then what's happened off the back of those budget hotels are these other new kind of chains have come in and been like, oh, we're better than those budget hotels because we've got a GM and a robot butler, but ultimately it's still the same thing. And the food, for example, for breakfast was appalling. Anyway. What did you have?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Doesn't matter. I had a beautiful yoghurt and berry monstrosity that I made. Anyway, I'm complaining about something that is ungrateful, so I'm not going to carry on. But what I would say is, in each hotel room, they had a sign saying, your room service is delivered by a robot butler. And I was like, that's really interesting. Took a photo of it, sent it to you.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Did you avail yourself of said robot butler? No, every time I fancied some room service, it was too late and they only had like, the real basics after 11 o'clock. So I was like, I can't be honest with that. I think I stole from some garlic bread from the venue, I'll munch on that in my bag. You lot on your garlic bread over and over again,
Starting point is 00:13:36 you're meeting members of the public and you're smashing into garlic bread. It's obscene. Garlic bread, yeah. Absolutely obscene. Crazy talk. I had a nice time, I'm a bit tired today. We're going back to Birmingham and got another London show as well.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So we've got to take care of those, get those two things knocked off. I've not got my records together for the big show, for the big DJ set. Yeah, you're DJing now for the Birmingham show. Yeah. That's exciting. Stitched you up with that, didn't I? A little bit, yeah. A little bit. Yeah. They said to me on the call, to be fair, I was caught cold.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. And they said to me on the call, I was caught cold. Yeah. And they said to me on the call, sometimes after shows, people do a DJ set in the bar afterwards. Yeah. And it's a good way of driving tickets. And I was like, all right. OK, yeah. They said, someone will do that. And I said, oh, yeah, people do it. DJs all the time. Hmm. Sticks you right up for getting to ask your permission. So I am sorry for that.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But at the same time, you know, you put it in the shift. Good on you. You'll be out in the bar anyway. You and Visc are a pisshead. So definitely be fine. That is unfair. I feel like we're, I feel like the venue may not have clocked the demographic necessarily because as they say, get the girls on the dance floor and the boys will follow. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying for the first time ever at Glasgow there wasn't a single girl there. I think there was a couple but... I didn't see a single girl. Yeah it was very thin on the ground but who could tell it was a very rowdy crowd. Maybe you just couldn't hear their softer
Starting point is 00:15:05 voices behind there. It was fantastic to hear them. As we walked off at the end of the show in Glasgow, I just heard someone shout, fuck Vesh, fuck Vesh! Which made me laugh. Very good. Peter, there's one thing I wanted to bring to the table today. I thought you'd enjoy it. It is quite simply the fact that the Qataris have gifted Donald Trump a massive jumbo jet and you've got to be happy with that. I have got to be happy with that. I think what Donald Trump needs is a plane that is going to
Starting point is 00:15:37 take about four years to retrofit. They'll come into service just before he's about to leave office. Oh yeah. It'll come into service just before he's about to leave office. Yeah, we're that, innit? We're that. By which time he won't want the opportunity to be able to refuel in the sky. He won't want the Secret Service to have gone over every inch of that plane to make sure nothing's being... I mean, why do they even bother bugging it? He tells him everything anyway. What's the point in bugging Donald Trump? He will literally say anything to be popular. You can't possibly think he's saying stuff out back that he's not saying in real. I mean, the thing is though, because I guess people think he's got no filter and he's fucking stupid, but a lot of the most outrageous stuff he's reported to have said has been said behind
Starting point is 00:16:20 the scenes. Right, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's what you mean as in like on a hot mic? Well, he says stuff about veterans and people and people giving their lives in war and disabled people and stuff, but he's never been caught on a mic saying it. And it's funny, isn't it? Because the amount of people that get caught on a hot mic and you would probably say Trump is one of the more stupid people in public life, but he never gets caught on a hot mic. And the people around him are not disciplined. do you know? So it's kind of like, I'm surprised he's not caught a lot more. But also the man is unembarrassable and I think the things he says on a mic are mad,
Starting point is 00:16:55 so I don't think, there's not many things that he could possibly say that would upset anyone. There's no, surely all the lines in the sand have been crossed by now for people. Surely we're all, we're through the looking glass on that one. Do you not think that like, in this tenure he seems to be very keen on actually stepping on more rakes than usual? Yeah. Like did this whole plane thing is something that, bearing in mind like I think they said on a pod like that, a lot of members of Congress, you know GOP or whatever, will be flying on commercial
Starting point is 00:17:30 flights. So like this will start to sort of rank a little bit and you know like we've all on more than what it was like when we were talking about me and you getting home on the Glasgow Caledonian night shuttle, which is not as known as Sleeper. We didn't have beds, we just had chairs because Penguin had booked us on those trains. And we were very upset and very jealous of the people who had actual beds. Now you were really upset, I had to hold you back. I took it into my usual good grace. Yeah, yeah, exactly. True, true. It's the only thing I get animated about. So I imagine there'll be people who are just animated about the fact that they're flying cattle class and Donald Trump is literally flying around in a palace. There was an amazing
Starting point is 00:18:14 bit when he was asked about it by a journalist or whatever and he was like, I can't remember the exact words he used, but his answer was like tantamount to, well, I mean, obviously I'm going to accept a free plane. It'd be stupid. A lot of stupid. It was literally just saying that. It's like he couldn't comprehend the idea. Like, well, hang on a minute. If someone offered you a free 747, would you take it? It's like he can't compute the idea. There might be something wrong with it. I was also speaking to someone who was saying that, like you'd have to fully understand the amount of, usually the amount of protocol and process
Starting point is 00:18:52 into why Air Force One for example, isn't provided by another nation, is because you'd basically have to strip it down to such an extent that you're rebuilding it again yourself anyway. You've got to build it from scratch, haven't you? Yeah. So that's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And then like the Qataris who aren't even really necessarily a kind of honest actor in geopolitics anyway. They fund Hamas. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As it comes to baddies, they do do a lot of anti-US terrorism around. Wild. Absolutely wild.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But do you think with that, with the doll stuff, obviously the tariffs as a general point, stuff like the suspension of habeas corpus or whatever, like all of this stuff, the suspension of habeas corpus or whatever, like all of this stuff. There's a lot of quite public ricks that actually people will care about, quite apart from the bluster of Donald Trump's usual kind of like, I voted him in because he's a disruptor kind of vibe. Do you not think this time around he is doing some stuff that go, oh no, we're going to absolutely fucking murder you in the midterms? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:20:03 If they can connect Trump to the midterm. I guess what it comes down to is how much bullshit people will put up with, right? Because ultimately, I think the time it will become really tricky is if people start to, it's not the fact that he's kind of engorging himself and his family in a blatantly corrupt fashion because I think people kind of expect that from him. They just, a lot of people who vote for him, I think just say, that's the cost of doing business. I don't care. I just hate government. Right. But I think the real sticking point will come when maybe like you say, the midterms couple of years in people are like, hang on a minute,
Starting point is 00:20:37 my life isn't actually noticeably any better. In fact, in some ways it's a lot worse. The prices haven't come down. Yeah. Look at what this guy's up to. But I think when they start making those connections, it'll be tricky. But then the American system is funny because like, it's not really any real mechanism apart from impeachment to remove him and the impeachment won't work. So it's going to get a lot worse for what gets better. I think it's going to be really, really tricky. But anyway, I just thought I thought I thought the plane with a particularly with a particularly, it's going to be really, really tricky. But anyway, I thought the plane would particularly tickle you. Oh, lovely. That's a lovely plane. I'd stay in it. It's better than a Mulder.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It looks amazing. You tell the Qataris, I can't even say Qatari these days, you'll tell the Qataris, the Qatari, all your secrets, won't you? Those blocks on the train. That block in the truck on the train, the Qataris. You'll tell your Qataraks all the secrets. It's very confusing because the Americans cuter. The Americans call it cuter. We call it... Cater.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Cater. Cater. It's very... Who? Who's giving them a plan? It's very confusing. Alright, let's take a short break and we will be back with some bloody emails. I've got a good email here.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Oh, okay. Oh, oh, okay. We're back with The look at Pete Shaw. My AJ Tracy to your big zoo is here with me now. I guess I'm definitely big zoo in this scenario. I've seen AJ Tracy live by the way, he's very good. He's very handsome, got a lovely smile. I saw him at the UK launch party of the new NFL season a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:03 He's the one who did that Tiago Silver song, didn't he? Cause... No, that's Dave. Oh, it was Dave, wasn't it? Was he not involved somewhere? Oh, maybe it's featuring AJ Tracey, I'm not sure. I just don't know rap guys. I just don't know bloody rap for crying out loud.
Starting point is 00:22:17 No, you're not big on rap ever since you said you like the Wu-Tang crew. No, it was AJ Tracey and Dave. I don't mind admitting I am back on top with my rap knowledge. Oh, I thought it was Dave. OK, so it's both of them then. And that little boy you got on the stage.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Oh, Alex from Glastonbury. Who is apparently Richard Curtis' son? Yeah, Alex Curtis. He's done all right, hasn't he? Little Nepo rapper. Love it. Well, do you reckon that that was a stitch up then? Do you reckon that was like planned?
Starting point is 00:22:40 I don't know. It would be a weird thing to do, wouldn't it? I don't know. Maybe just maybe. Just coincidence, you reckon? Yeah I just, I think so. Maybe Dave Newman from the streets, I don't know. New date, well how's that work?
Starting point is 00:22:53 I don't know, maybe they met before, maybe they were just hanging out, I don't know. Maybe they were bonding on their love of cross-chest bags that everyone seemed to wear in that year. That was a thing wasn't it? That was a thing. What would the Glastonbury might be this year do you reckon? on their love of cross chest bags that everyone seemed to wear in that year. That was a thing wasn't it? That was a thing. What would the Glastonbury might be this year do you reckon? Who's playing? I hope it pisses it down.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Glastonbury line up. I love watching it in the rain on the tennis. Who's the big one? Right, who have we got here? Glastonbury Festival. Neil Young, you like Neil Young? I love Neil Young. You love the 1975.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I don't mind them. Festival. Neil Young, you like Neil Young? I love Neil Young. You love the 1975. I don't mind them. The thing about the 1975 is I'm aware of a narrative around them but I don't fully know what that narrative is. Right, okay. Is that? And there's one of their albums I quite like. Anony and the Johnsons, I presume Anony and the Johnsons has transitioned? That sounds like that's happened. Okay, interesting. Lola Young, she's quite big at the moment. Franz Ferdinand. They're all over there.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like, self-esteem's down there. Franz Ferdinand seems to be above that and above... Olivia Rodrigo's the other headliner, isn't she? Oh, she's good. Next to Rod Stewart, he'll be on early. Big time. Now, he's in the legend slot, so I think he has to do early afternoon. Right, okay. So who knows how that'll go. There'll be enough to watch, I suppose. There's always something to watch. It's in the legend slot, so I think he has to do early afternoon.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So who knows how that'll go. There'll be enough to watch I suppose. There's always something to watch. It's good on the telly. The best way to watch Vastabee is I play it, man. I'm telling you. But the best thing about watching it when it's raining is watching loads of young people pretending to enjoy themselves. You cannot beat it. For Inhaler, the Nepo baby of Nepos, lovely, love that. Who's that? That's Bono's son. What's he called? His band is called Inhaler. Inhaler, that's a
Starting point is 00:24:33 Miles Cain song, he's not a Nepo baby. I was thinking about this, my daughter, if you sort of glance at not our bank accounts but mine and Sarah's jobs certainly in like you know two radio DJs would we be I think she'd be counted as a Nepal baby whatever if she did anything in entertainment I think she would be oh you just got your job because oh B Donaldson and Sarah Champion were both radio DJs both podcasters Nepal babies. I think if we can wish for one thing for our respective children is that they do not get a job in the entertainment industry. No, exactly. I would love my son to be happy and healthy and do whatever he wants to do, but if I did
Starting point is 00:25:16 get a say in it, I would say please get a proper job. Right, okay, yeah. Do you not think that like, do you not think that if you saw, if you saw, say, I don't know, Noel Edmonds of Radio 1 and Lisa Tarbuck had an unholy union and made a baby. Right, it's a strange thing to imagine. The baby, and I'm not saying that Noel or Lisa is, is obviously achieved more than myself and Sarah to do the rest of the... But Lisa Tarbuck's already a nepo baby. Exactly, alright I've used a very bad example there because they've already got the nepo
Starting point is 00:25:51 in there but they would be regarded still as being a nepo baby even though their job is actually quite underwhelming in the grand scheme entertainment. They're not Ask Williams are they? They're not Golden Globes nominees are they? It is just a radio DJ, you know, for under £100 a show here and there. You know what I mean? It's like, it's not, it's not. I don't think, I mean, it's hard for me to answer because, because I think if I say that your child won't be a Nepo baby, it means that I'm implying that you haven't had a very good career. Well, that's all right. That's absolutely fine.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But if I say that she is a Nepo baby, it kind of feels like a bit like I'm being unkind to her. I just think it's the very lowest of, it's the lowest of the low nepo babies. There's like, you know, homeopathic levels of nepo in her soul right now. Yeah, that's what it'd be, a homeopathic nepo baby. But I also have, my take on the nepo baby phenomenon is that I would say, I don't know if other people look at it this way, but I would judge it like this.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I would say like, for example, Brooklyn Beckham is a Nepo baby because he's got no disenable talent, never really done anything. Everything he turns his hand to seems to be quite poor, yet he still keeps doing loads of different stuff, right? I think the nepo baby thing for people who are clearly talented, clearly work really hard and have clearly done really well is less of a concern because I just don't think you can fake that. And if you take into account that the guy from the 1975 whose parents
Starting point is 00:27:18 are both famous right? You don't get to headline Glastonbury because your parents are famous. Well yeah exactly and you've got to remember. You have to make some substance behind it. So I don't think that would make some Necco babies. Because I think that it's a blessing anacus in that scenario. I think that's a really good example because Denise Welch and the Boggly Block from Alveda's Inn. Tim Healy.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Tim Healy. They're both, I mean you don't make that much money as an actor, they were both actors weren't they? And you know they went to be, you know Denise obviously went off to be a bit of a celebrity on Like Loose Women and stuff. So you do make an amount of money and you can probably turn around a decent whack, but no more than... But it's contacts though right, isn't it contacts? Is it though? Like would Tim Healy, the boggold actor from Alvedo Sein, have any contacts at Radio 1? No. Like, that would be mad. That would be mad for him to have any contacts in the music industry.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And also, I think we're agreeing here. And they're from the North. I think we're agreeing here. The chief reason we're agreeing here, I think, on this specific example The chief reason we're agreeing here, I think, on this specific example is because, you know, the guy, I mean, that fucking Matty Healy guy, I'm led to believe he's a bit of a better, I don't fucking know anything about him, so I can't tell you if he's or not. But I just don't think you get Grammy nominations, Brit Awards, you know, big sales of records, headline Glastonbury, because both of your parents were in soaps. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:43 It doesn't work like that. You might get a little break, you might get a kind of little, you know, you're around those type of people because you're in that kind of entertainment industry. But that to me isn't Nepo Baby material because I think it'll fall down instantly the moment it gets any kind of scrutiny. And they've been a band for like 20 years.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I've seen enough shit acts doing enough shit stuff who used to prop up the bar at the Groucho to know that it takes a lot more than that. It does take, you know, writing the song Chocolate for example, which was a which is a banger, it was just a hit, it was like it had everything going for it. So yeah. They're writing their own songs, presumably they are right? Yeah, well they are probably, I think after the third album and you're playing festivals and, sorry, stadiums, you're probably helping, getting helped out a little bit because at the end of the day, you're a money-making beer from that point on, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:29:35 I think that, yeah, so as a result, I've come round to thinking that only people with famous parents should be allowed to do anything. Right, yeah, okay, that's absolutely fine. And I think everyone else should stand alone. So you should technically be a miner or some kind of merchant Navy sailor. So I should work in an electronics factory or a checkout supermarket. You always bust my dad into merchant Navy-ness. Oh he's not, he's a proper Navy, isn't he? He's a straight Navy. Sorry, proper Navy. Straight Navy. Yeah. Right. We've got an email. I'll do it real quick. We've got a do-qu quick email. Yeah, cool. It's from Ben. Hi, Ben. He says, Hi gentlemen. I was listening to last Monday's pod and Luke mentioned about
Starting point is 00:30:10 one of his worst parenting fears being him getting locked out of the house while taking the bins out and being solely in charge of the son he has access to. That would be terrible, wouldn't it? Yeah, that would be awful. I've had this exact thing happen to me. It was a summer afternoon some years ago with my then two year old daughter was in a high chair. I was sorting the recycling and decided to pop out and the front door, sorry, to pop out the front door and then shut the recycling away. All I heard was slam and the door had flung shut, leaving my daughter in the house on her own. I had a moment of blind panic because I was one, locked out of my daughter being alone in the house and two, was running the pair of shorts. Then I had to a moment of blind panic because I was one, locked out with my daughter being alone in the house and two, was running in a pair of shorts.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Then I had to moment of clarity and remember that our patio doors were open at the back of the house so me and my athletically thick and barefoot frame jogged around to the back of the house where I could climb over the back wall into my garden and burst into my living room. Only for my daughter to look at me bemused and presumably think, what are you doing? Needless to say, I've learned my lesson now whenever I open the front door, I lift the handle so the lock extends out from the door, leaving me unable to repeat that situation. Thanks for the pods and for keeping me regularly entertained. On my postie rounds, I've actually met the third postman I've heard from in this last week who likes listening to our shows. I think
Starting point is 00:31:18 it's really big in the post worker community. But Ben, that's a harrowing story and I'm pleased it had a happy resolution. For me, it would be worse than that for two main reasons. One, because we live on the first floor, so it's difficult for me to climb through a window. Second of all, I'm in a terrace block, so to get around the back, there's no back access to my garden. I have to climb through about 14 other gardens to even get around the back. And even when I get around the back, the door back door will be locked and there's stairs up to the flat. So it's very, very tough for me to deal with it in that way that you did. Absolutely stressing me out. Absolutely stressing me out.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's anxiety inducing. What I do is I always just put my keys in my pocket. That's what I do. Good plan. In a few years time, it won't be me doing the bins, it'll be him. Lovely stuff. All right, well, we've been looking Pete short. I've just spotted someone else in the in the Glastonbury Festival lineup who's also a Netball baby.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Father John Misty, who was the son of Willow the Wisp. We'll be back on Thursday for more batteries. I was about to say, I like Father John Misty. Where's this going? Fingers crossed. He's very good good isn't he? Exactly our song music you can forget you, you know. He used to be a drummer in Fleet Foxes. Did he? And he broke out? God I've seen him so many times. Jay Tilman has got a brilliant record as Jay Tilman called your mother's ghost which I'd recommend. Okay, all right then we'll be back on Thursday for batteries and stuff. Get them in at www.loukenpeachshow.com. Ta ta!
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