The Luke and Pete Show - A Geriatric Man of the Match Award

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Has Christmas started even earlier this year? If so, why? And what's the attraction of adult lego?Just two of the questions that the Luke and the Pete attempt to answer on this episode, the inaugural missive of December. And while we're on the subject of the festive period now the final month of the year is upon us, one of our listeners gets in touch to recommend a Christmas reading of the 9/11 Commision Report, and do you know what, Luke might just give it a bash.The Luke and Pete Show only serves up the longest of shrifts, and don't you forget it. To contribute to this travelling jamboree, get in touch here: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luca Pietro. I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Mr. Lukie Moore as we hurtle towards another Christmas period. It's first December today. Holy shit. It is. It is the 1st of December. It's which means basically that me and Mark came to and Russell Meek for the last week. WrestleMania. We've just gone through. It's WrestleMania. We do 12 special shows for all of the Patreon, the Patriensons. So I spend most of December just watching wrestling, which I'm absolutely fine with. So you don't pre-record it all way in advance then? That would require way more planning than we have. No, we do sort of like do it.

I'd sort of say November into December. I spend a lot of time watching. I can't tell you what it is. That's why it's so exciting. It's like 12 little presents. It's like an advent calendar for the Pat Pat Patrinsons, but it doesn't cost you 120 quid. And there's only 12 rather than 24.

You know what? Another kind of, you know, weird development in modern life is that Advent calendars can now have 25 doors on them, which is not the point of them. That was never the agreement. No. When we had a more than the 24th was the last day because the next day is Christmas.

And the last thing you need is another little chocolate or whatever it is. No, exactly, yeah. It's not special on Christmas Day. You've got other things to open. I was kind of, I feel like the Advent can, Canada should just be a little pitcher. I think that should be enough. I don't think it should be a chocolate.

Hitler. Hitler. The worst thing I've ever said. It's like opening your presents at like 5pm on a Christmas day, which an ex used to do. It's just awful, awful, awful plan, awful family, awful stuff. Yeah, I mean, I don't think, I mean, Hitler was famous for trying to nazify the Christmas holiday, wasn't there?

I don't think I'm trying to do that. I'm just saying that I feel like it might be a harsh. a harsh verdict from you on that. Right, yeah. I just think, you know, open the door to number seven on the 7th of December and see a respectful shepherd.

A respectful shepherd or a star. Why does it be co-opted? The star would be on the 25th, or 24th, whatever it would be. I guess so, yeah. But wouldn't it have to be a cabrie chocolate? Why does it have to be that? Well, if it was anything else, yeah, fine.

I think that's probably why these sort of these beauty advent calendars are so exciting or, you know, you can probably get like, I think you'd probably get like cheese ones and, yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. A meat one. What, if you open an advent kind of a door and you saw a little Lego hot dog

and every day you got a little bit more of the Lego play set, you'd like a bit of that, right? They must do that, right? They must do that. They do it with a little bag of Lego things in it, I think. Right, nice. Each time and you end up building a thing. Because obviously you're not really going to build much

with 24 Lego pieces, are you? No, but I think with 24 Lego pieces. piece, on the 24th, you should get the plan. You know what I mean? You collect all you should get, and you've put it together as best you can, not knowing what it's supposed to be. That's why I don't really understand adult Lego,

unless we've been sponsored this week by them, I think it's great. That's why I don't understand adult Lego, because at the end of the day, it's not particularly creative, it's relaxing, I imagine, but it's not particularly creative, just following, just doing, fucking, I put together a metal sort of parcel receptacle

for outside my house, so we don't have people ringing the doorbell all hours of the night. And that was one of the most difficult flat pack furniture put together's I've had in my life. Terrible, terrible bit of work. And yeah, it's just like that, really. I just feels like you're just assembling someone else's idea of a Boeing 747. That's exactly what it is. And I think it's probably part of the infantilisation of adulthood, isn't it?

But we do. I buy a big Lego set for the fact. family every Christmas and we all take it. Yeah, we all take it turn to it's kind of just a nice thing to do it but you're absolutely right that's your assessment of it's spot on but every time we get the big legacy of my family my dad who's older now and slowed down quite a lot but also has retained the stubbornness of all dads and every single time it's his turn to do one of the little bags because we're all in little bags aren't they he's sitting at the kitchen at the dining table doing it and without

fail, without fail, every time after a while. Well, this bad's wrong. It's not wrong. It is. It's wrong. It could be wrong. What's going on? I remember last year, I had to look it up online, and I found out that Lego is basically

lauded as having the best quality quality control of any product in the world. Apparently, only 18 bricks in every million fail the, the, um, the, um, the, um, the past the what's it called the quality control test every Lego brick must be size accurate to 0.002 of a millimeter and they have like hundreds of people making sure the the packs are

you've just put a brick in the wrong place well I haven't you have you've put a brick in the wrong place let's just go back find out where it's gone wrong and we'll do it again oh it's worth it's fine I'm glad there's other people in your life like me you've got to deal with I can never do a Lego set with you well first of all

You wouldn't sit in the same spot for long enough to do it. I'd get marmalade on it or something. It's becoming food. If we got the Lego Home Alone house, I'd spend... Where's Kevin? He's up my arse. Deal with that. I've put Kevin up my ass. I spent 60 seconds doing the little tree house in the garden.

Turn back again. You're in fucking O'Neils in Leicester. Or some indie bar in Riga. Having an Asahi. I think a lovely Asahi. It's going to be a photo with little Kevin McAllister on your shoulder. I've won Man of the Match at my own. 11 aside, not really won, I think it was just my turn.

But I got the Man on the Match Award and I, they give you a little trophy to, you know, cavort about with and send pictures. I don't, not get, obviously not getting involved with that sort of silliness. But I've been away and will be away actually this week as well because I've got to go up north. And there, I've told you, I'm going up north. Thanks, man, let me know.

That's all right. And so I basically just hijacked and, you know, kidnap the man-of-the-match trophy. So they can't give it out

for the next two weeks. So, wait a minute, is this the first time you've got a man-of-the-match this season?

Yeah. And that was the first time I'll give me the trophy. They won't give me it again because I've had it for two weeks. What have they? I mean this with the greatest possible of respect and love.

What was the justification for giving you a man-in-the-match? I think they were just leveling up. They were just sort of, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I didn't play as bad as I usually do.

Do you feel happy? You must feel proud. There's something quite... Do you feel accepted by the wider group and their problematic WhatsApp messages? No, they're all right. This lot are the over 50s. They're great.

They're lovely ones. Okay. So, okay. So, the evidence is starting to emerge. You're 44. Okay. I'm not. According to the FA League, I'm 45.

Okay, but the rest of them are over 50? No, some of them are between 45. You can have under, you can have a few 45ers. So is this the team that you occasionally have to run the line for, referee and playing goal? Yeah, and play out, thank you. They're over 50 and you're not playing. You're not getting in the team.

Is big, if you're still playing football at 50, most of them have had some sort of semi-pro career because they're 50 and they're still playing. They still want to play. So they're clearly okay at football. So you're basically getting a sympathy man of the match award for running the line for a bunch of pensioners. Not running that.

I played all the match. I played 90 minutes of shit hell. And I didn't realize my asthma thing had stopped working. So I was completely asthma pumpless as well. I had none of that mucked course and through my veins. You're trying to suck on the man in the match award because you thought it was in a hater. The only reason I'm in net is because we don't have a fucking keeper.

I need to get big Pav out of retirement. Ah, yeah. I mean, Pav's a big unit these things. days, though. He's a big unit back then, and he was still, you know, Neville South old cat-esque, he's the best he's the best keeper I've ever seen. Our keeper

that occasionally turns up as a big unit. He sometimes borrows my knee press. Some people are calling him Big Pav, Big John. You're the Chinese order guy. Right. Oh, right, okay, nice, yeah, yeah. But the Bosch. He's still the best.

Him at 1% of what I saw him back in the day would still you're a better goalkeeper than anyone I've ever seen. Yeah, get him, get him play. What's the name of the team? Get him. Villanova, over 50s. Vianova over 50s.

Perhaps our age, so he probably would be eligible. Yeah, he would be, yeah. Yeah. And when you're in, and when you're in bins, nobody cares. Like, I'm sorry, if I was, I am not technically supposed to be playing for them until April, but when you're as shit as me, no one's going to ever pull on that thread. Not ever going to go, he's a ringer. He looks too young.

You're only as good as your last man of the match award, mate. You're only as good as... Yeah, and I've kidnapped this one, so they can't have it back. It's like fish with the Jackson Psychopedia belt. Yeah, the linear lineal belt. I keep on threatening... If I had a bit more free time, I'd make the Jackson Cyclopedia belt. I'll get it done.

I did order some leather from... I did it... I did not order a bit of latex sort of belt from China. Yeah, get it done. Get it done. I think it'll be good because I think what we could do is make sure that the person who's holding it at the time has to wear it for the recording. Exactly. Yeah.

I think so. How many people who listen to the show do you reckon listen to the ramble? It's got to be in the high 80s, isn't it? It's the only reason why you put it with us. I don't reckon it is. You reckon? I would wonder what was going through anyone's head. There's too many rambled episodes. It's just too many rambled

episodes, I think. Oh, what? To satisfy their need. So I think it was that back in the day when we only had like two rambul episodes a week. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's just find us organically now people who don't like football

I'd love to know well I definitely have a low opinion on them well it's only because it mirrors a low opinion you have it yourself though right yeah definitely definitely yeah anyway we're talking about the first December we talk about Aviccandas what is the

what you're clearly ramping up for the festive period I think the festive period started really early this year now I tell you why because we're working media and nobody does fuck all in December yeah no two observations because we do football

Two observations I make is that one obviously, or one's just bought a statement really. I'm normally in the US this time of year. I haven't been this year for various different reasons. So I've noticed the build up to Christmas in the UK. Normally I'd be absent. And it started so early. I can't believe how early it started.

Yeah. My theory for that is, and it's a sad theory, and I'll be interested in now if you share it, is that I think that people, I've started Christmas really, really early this year because they're desperate for something interesting and fun and good and wholesome

because their lives are shit because the country's in an absolute state. Oh, don't you start? What do you think? I don't know. I mean, I think it's hard to tell really, I suppose. I didn't realize how important my joy of Christmas is. My joy Christmas is starting to sort of ramp up

because Littland and I've got other Littland's joining us for Christmas and I'm really excited to, you know, ruin the turkey. And so, like, there's just a lot of, like, it's starting to become important to my daughter. So I'm like, oh, actually, this is actually, I see why parents go so wild on Christmas because it's... Oh, it's much better with kids. It's amazing, yeah.

It's magical with kids. Absolutely, no question about that. But here you go, then, what date, have a guess, what date you think, the first Christmas advert in the UK aired this year? What date? Oh. What, they actually...

sort of, well, yeah, but it's got to be a big brand. It's got to be your John Lewis as rather than, because like, you know, if fucking some Forex trading company decided to bust one out, it's just to antagonize in early November. I'll tell you the brand if you want me into one of the brand. The brand is, ASDA. Asda, right. So they were the first ones to go, were they?

Right, okay. John Lewis went three days after ASDA. Yeah. All right, 10th of November. November 1st is the answer. Hmm, that seems too early. That does seem too early. I think it does.

I think to me... I think it's because we don't have a Thanksgiving to worry about, though. Do you know what I mean? It's like in America, you have your Thanksgiving and sort of remember why you hate your extended family and then you do it all again for Christmas. Do you know what Thanksgiving is like a strangely non-commercial holiday in the US, by which I mean, you don't, there's no presents.

Oh, is there not? No one does presents. Oh, it's just food and getting together and community. I like that. It's been, it's quite frowned upon to do presents. it's like a faux part no one does presents So as soon as Thanksgiving's

finished obviously you got Black Friday Then everything starts going going bonkers But to me I would be You know talking to you You were accusing me of Who did you call me earlier

Adolf Hitler Didn't it was Adolf Hitler Well to the internet Luke Would it be an Adolf Hitler Move to say There's a ban on Christmas till December 1st

December 1st Feels like the time it should start It's sort of If you're Richard Little John and you're writing in the Daily Mail, sure. If you're going to make some mad coin out of writing some

reactionary shit. Is he on money, do you reckon? Is he on money? Little John, he's been there for years. He's one of their main, you know, every dad in the UK. Froth's at the idea of him, you know, going to town on some blue-haired

walk nonsense. But I wonder if he's still getting paid, though. He's still getting old-fashioned newspaper money, is he? He's probably on a fair amount. Yeah, Little John. He's just fire him. He hates workers. Right. He's just fucking fire the guy.

He's one of the, he's one of the, He's one of the duels in the Daily Mail crowd. All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is you're not ready mentally, you're not prepared for Christmas on November 1st. That is not even Christmas adjacent.

It's not. No. No, I guess not. Do you remember the temperature in this country on November 1st? It was about fucking 16 degrees. It was, it was balmy, wasn't it? And then this cold snap

really took us by surprise, really, yeah. So I would probably limit it to 1st December if I was the adult hit leave accused me a bit. That's all I'm saying. Okay, fine. But I'm not, so I won't. If you were the Richard Littlejohn of what I also accuse you of,

the things he's gone about recently, he's very focused on obviously Starma and the BBC. I don't see his output really right anymore. Is he on socials, is he? Oh, well, he just, he doesn't seem to be as, he doesn't seem to be having as much fun, it seems. I don't think he's on social. I've just, I just Google Richard Little John for the first time,

probably about 15 years. And the first thing that's come back is Richard Littlejohn, Daily Mail, the Beebe has turned its back on Middle England. That is playing the hits. That is playing the absolute hits from Little John. He's not changed his act for like, fucking 40 years. No, he really hasn't. No, no. He's, yeah,

he's, I mean, football clubs take the knee for BLM. Just finish that sentence. So he should choose anything really good. There's an amazing, there's an absolutely amazing video on YouTube of Richard Little John when he was still invited on things like question time.

Getting tied up in knots by the admittedly tedious but nevertheless very intelligent Will Self right and they have a big debate I think it's question time might be some other late night culture show or something and Will Self runs rings

around him to such an extent he gets Richard Little John to claim that his own Richard Little John's own novel that's just come out is much more complicated than Tolstoy and Will Smith's just sitting there going more complicated than Tolstoy as little John has to paint themselves

with such a corner it's really really good it's good behaviour all round I miss Will's self on the telly maybe I just don't watch your telly and he's on it loads Did he be cancelled? No I think he's alright

I think he's probably one of those blocks who were who the left probably you know sort of canonised and then he says something that they don't quite like

and then everyone gets upset and that's that but I don't very objectionable sort of expression on his face hasn't he? That's the heroine Oh, he was, he was into that, wasn't he?

Did it on Tony Blair's playing, apparently that was his big story, wasn't it? I'd say, that is, I do like his books. That is quite good behaviour again. I'm doing her and on Tony Blair's playing. I've got an, I'll have to be honest with you. I've got an admiration for that. Yeah.

I like well self. He's good. He's just got that kind of, um, I don't care. Very, yeah, very, yeah, very enjoyable. All right, let's take a break. All right. to consider the impact of Will's self and why we don't see him on TV anymore.

Maybe some people are getting touched. I mean, to be fair to the listeners, if we are unaware that he's been counselled in some way, I have looked at his Wikipedia page. You're standing there's no controversy tab. You wouldn't put it in your own Wikipedia, would you? Who's editing Will Self Wikipedia? Oh, just people.

Who edits any of this stuff? Just people. Who edits any of this stuff? Good point. Imagine having to sort of just go through it like a day of, you know, daily mail sidebars and just sort of go right now

yeah, right, Jessica Simpson's going to have done this and put that in the Wikipedia. I think people do, I mean, generally, Pete, I hate to break it to you, but people do generally use Wikipedia. I mean, that is, it's a very well-used website.

Yeah, but like who's updating Will, why does anybody care about Will Self's, you know, various controversies? If indeed there are already, which we don't know because it's not, but your logic,

we're not going to go to a break now because your logic here seems to be that no one who's got a Wikipedia page then by that rationale can have a controversy tab. No, I'm just saying that who is filling in the country, who is filling in, like it doesn't automatically get updated, does it?

And a man, probably stinking of a lot of coffee, is tapping away, copying, you know, news stories from the Daily Mail or the Sun or the Telegraph or the Guardian. I could go on listing all newspers by Shant. And they're going onto the Wikipedia and going, well, that he's updating. I'll update that. And then getting your little, you know, that little bit of dope of your hit that you've updated the internet. For a big, large language model to just munch up. Real self wrote a collection of columns for the new statesman

about food, which was then assorted into a compendium called The Unbearable Lightness of Being a Prawn Cracker. That tells you everything you need to know about the man. Right, let's take a break. He wrote a book about being a chimp, like I read once. We're back with a Luke and Peter Shaw. Luke, should we do some bloody emails? It's not done some for a while.

Yeah, we've got an email in here, I think. Let's have a little. Do you want to do it or do you want me to do it? I'll do the one from Rodgers. I'll do the first one off the first cab off the rank. Hello, gents. Second I'm email. I'm after the double A.

Good God, Beligian. Incredibly failed to make the battery daddy last year. I've just listened to it on Monday 17th November show and Luke's story about his Cambridge dinner with Maximus Babs wants me to make me on an email again. I like Luke, I'm a total history nerd. Babra does sound like a legend indeed. It's actually Maximum Babs, not Maximus Babs.

Maximum Babs, right, okay. In Gladiated, Maximum Babs, yeah. All right. It will, it made me wonder if Luke or any other listeners had actually read the 9-11 Commission Report. Yeah, that's what Maximum Babs was talking about. Was talking about, right, yeah. Years ago, I saw a free Kindle Taster, the first 50 pages on Amazon. This is amazing.

This is like Alan Partridge. You should do that with the old Epstein files. You get your first 50. I dabbled and ended up buying and devouring the whole thing. It is an amazing and fascinating read. I'm sure people imagine, as I previously did, that the work would be a boring all-government document and almost impossible to digest.

It is anything but it is superbly written and reads like a fast-paced thriller. I would highly, highly recommend it, especially for people of our generation interest in history as 9-11 is such a defining moment. Luke, if you do give it a go, I would love to know your thoughts. All the best boys, Rodders.

If I put that PDF of the 9-11 commission report, buying it off Amazon, getting on my Kindle, shoved it into chat, GPD, and said, summarise that, give me the main point, and it would just say, it don't melt the beams. It just don't melt them beams. That's what I said. I mean, Rodgers has done a pretty good job

of selling that into me, to be honest. I would be just reading it. I've never considered reading it because I apparently incorrectly assumed it would be dry as fuck. Yeah. I think with, I think when you read, I guess Wikipedia is a little bit more salacious. But if you ever sort of go around, like clicking around the 9-11, kind of like the hijackers where they came from, where they started from where they're, I think, I think, the most upsetting thing about 7-7, I think was seeing the journey, seeing the videos of like the lads, the lads, the terrorists, the murders, on the platform at like Luton and stuff, like parking their car up at Luton. They never see that car again.

That was the 7-7 thing, right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's that kind of visceral sort of, like, how their day started is almost more interesting than what happened afterwards. It's just like how they got there, all of the things that had to... That bit can seem almost, you know, more sinister in a way. Because the normality of it, it's like, you know, the normality of it is what makes it relatable and therefore makes it more terrifying. It's like, it's the, it's the principle of, you know, what Hannah Errant called the banality of evil, right? The unpalatable, the unpalatable truth that, you know, Hannah Arant's, like, take away from covering the Nuremberg trials was that these people are just, they are, you know, they're human beings. They're not, it helps you psychologically to be able to file them in that little box in the corner over there as quote unquote monsters, but they're not. And it's important to accept they're not.

Now, I guess you could probably argue clearly that the reference point you used there, the example you used are essentially radicalised terrorists with very twisted world views. But if you look at the Nazi comparison, it's kind of anything but really. I mean, their worldview is twisted. It was a more systemic thing, I suppose. Yeah, well, quite. And it's essentially, to extrapolate out, the most sinister and troubling thing outside of the horrendous amounts of death and suffering. of course, is that you look at, there are countless examples in Nazi Germany

of men who were fucking postmen until they joined the Nazi party, rose through the ranks being horrendous war criminals, inflicted incredible suffering on people for no reason whatsoever, and then after the war and after that regime, fucking five years later, what are they again?

fucking postmen. Right? Yeah, mad. I actually went to go and see that film Nuremberg last week that I'll tell you. Oh, is it good? It's really good. And I don't actually know about the conversation about it.

There's a big controversy about it. I didn't know. And I subsequently found out about it. For those who don't know what it is, it's a movie about essentially, ostensibly about Herman Goering and the Nuremberg trials, but it's about some other Nazi war criminals as well. And it's told from the point of view

of the psychologist, psychiatrist, sorry, who had to, you know, analyze them and stuff. And it's basically the true story. all the character in it are real. Russell Crowe is absolutely frightening in it. Fantastic. Fantastic in it. Brilliant performance.

Anyway, and the controversy is that in the trial itself, when they dramatized the trial, they use the actual Holocaust footage. Yes. And people, have you read about that? Yeah. And people have said that, you know, it's completely unnecessary and it's, you know, over the top.

And I actually disagree. I thought it's the opposite. I thought I felt it deeply affecting. and deeply moving and the impact of people at the time who would have been witnessing that trial covering it or even prosecuting or whatever it is

wouldn't have seen that footage before and so the impact I had on them was absolutely seismic and rightly so and I think it's absolutely vital to the narrative that it's included a brilliant movie but the point is that like

the guy who Rami Malik plays the psychiatrist he wrote a book he actually a very I forget his name now but he actually a very troubling life post doing that work. He ended up taking his own life in exactly the same way that

Herman Goering did, which is strange. And he was desperately worried that this Nazism, this fascism would visit the United States. And he spent all this time warning against it and he was

depressive and it kind of made him an alcoholic and all the rest of it. It's a terrible story. But one of the takeaways from it is absolutely that these people are normal people before until they're not right and that for me I could totally agree that I know what you're referencing with that looting car park theme because it's in that 7-7

documentary on the eye player they track them through using the CCTV and stuff and I'm like you know picking up a little train ticket it's like that's weird yeah everything everything seems just so it's horrible it's it but now anyway

Rodgers you set us on that on that track with your depression yeah five stars the 9-11 commission reports. I will give it a go. I'll definitely, if it's available, I'll give it a go

to have a read. I should do it out of respect for Barbara, actually, who I liked a great deal and who I enjoyed spending time with, so I should respect her work and read it on her account. I wonder if the,

I wonder if the, I wonder where that money goes. Where's that, like, back to the commission, does it go to the victims? Where does the money that you,

when you pay to buy a publicly funded document? Seems weird, doesn't it? It's good question. maybe it's free in America maybe it's geolocked I think we can all be confident and safe

in the knowledge that whatever happens to that money will be repurposed absolutely properly by the current administration it will go to that speaking of that by the way I've got that Bitcoin man

who's laundering money for ISIS and that speaking that he's just been pardoned speaking of which there's a brilliant article at the time recording that came out in the Atlantic yesterday online

it will be in the next edition by a guy called Tom Nichols who's a brilliant academic and public intellectual and writer and he's written an amazing article in The Atlantic called The President is losing control of himself and it's absolutely frightening

and he is the guy well worth reading so if you are interested in that type of stuff do give it a bash. I read it while I was wanting for my son to drop off to sleep and it depressed me. It depressed me a great deal. I mean it frightened me in fact. It seems that this new sort of development

and obviously we're recording this a few days in advance so God knows what they'll be on to later but these Epstein files there it seems to Teflon Don seems to be slightly bruised by it and there's a lot of people sort of saying oh yeah he's probably going to quit and he's like a narcissist never quits

that level of narcissism never quits he's going to be there until he's he's going to be Billy Bullocks naked on top of his on top of the roof of his new ballroom like Smeet and his own shit actually everything's fine It will be like a South Park episode

by the end This is but much more frightening This article It kind of does a lot of comparison between the mental state of Richard Nixon in 1974 Who was drinking a lot And becoming really erratic

And he had a secretary of defence Who was genuinely very worried About Nixon's behaviour A guy called James Schlesinger Who Who then basically left the chain of command and went outside of the presidential

kind of briefing and said to the chiefs of staff any unusual orders from Nixon you need to tell me straight away you have to tell me straight away and the point that Tom Nichols is making that actually happened and the point that Tom Nichols is making

there's no one there in Trump's worse than that and Trump's Secretary of Defense is, or Secretary of War now as he's called is Pete Heggsett who is fucking insane so strap yourselves in He likes a drink, though, so maybe he'll be a bit more chilled out of it. I'm my, good God.

Good God. Yeah, because Trump's Teetotal famously, isn't he? Yeah. I think he should just have a little bit. Cool his jets a little bit. Take him up, Neil's in Leicester. Take him up, Neil's in Leicester. Just give him a pint of Asahi.

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Let's throw some darts. Let's throw some arrows. On that delicate night, let's get out of here. All right then. We'll be back doing our own Look at Pete Shaw commission in the form of a podcast on Thursday's show. Get your emails in, get your Christmas messaging in, whatever you want to get out there.

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