The Luke and Pete Show - A National Trevor

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Pete and Luke are back to ask a question that is surely on the lips of everyone - who is the UK's National Trevor? There's also time to discuss how many cats Ozzy Osbourne killed in his life (clue: it's a lot), and then we talk about our favourite Brixton-based buskers.Elsewhere, there's the astonishing average age of the Greenland shark, why Pete doesn't like jellied eels, and a listener gets in touch to passionately defend Dutch cuisine. Does he win the lads over? Tune in to find out.Email us at [e-mail] or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram if character-restricted messaging takes your fancy.Please fill out Stak's listener survey! It'll help us learn more about the content you love so we can bring you even more - you'll also be entered into a competition to win one of five PlayStation 5's! Click here: https://bit.ly/staksurvey2025***Please take the time to rate us on your podcast app. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I really sort of launched into it there, not sort of thinking that we might be talking about, you know, heavy, important stuff. I did this on Ressle Me, and obviously the show was all about Hulk Hogan's demise, and Mark tricked me into giving a really peppy sort of intro to the show. And then went, Pete, Hulk Hogan reinvented the business, have some respect so he had me there he absolutely played a real tick on me there after almost

20 years of broadcasting you'd have seen that one come in yeah no I absolutely felt I mean he was quite right I shouldn't have shouldn't have done that oh by the way do you mind if I just shut the window is that all right yeah if you want why why do you want to shut the outside oh you haven't um you just want to shut the outside out I might actually leave open if it's distracting you let me know I can't really hear anything but then my years have never been a bellwether is that a word

I could be using there yeah sod it it's a bellwether there's a word that's spelled differently to what you think

as well yeah so we always bear that in mind well I always think about a little cloud in a bell

yeah that's understandable I mean if you type that into gen moji on the iPhone that's what you'd get what the hell is

gen mojee for crying out yeah it's where like you've got if you wanted to send an emoji to someone in WhatsApp or

whatever and there's no emoji for it you can design your own now invariably crap oh what So they actually make a little AI character of the things you want, like some ride. Oh, so like a custom emoji so I could have like a big cup of shit.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where it draws the line. I guess there's certain things it doesn't let you do. All right. Can I have a cup of soil that smells bad, please, that has come out of a bomb? Yeah. Yeah. Brilliant.

There you go. You tricked it there. Now do some racist stuff like all AI's. It's just another example of what I consider to be the overwhelming evidence. that a lot of AI in terms of its general application is just dreadful. Too much. I mean, just to, we've got too much choice from things that people have actually crafted with their hands and brains and minds and thoughts.

I don't think we need more. The problem isn't more content. No. The problem isn't computers making more content. It's just having a way of sifting out the shit content for the good content, I would say. Every single time you go on to Twitter now, every single tweet that's done any kind of numbers the first reply is some neckbeard virgin

saying grok please explain this so grow up just read it with your own eyes you literally can't use Twitter on a train nowadays because it's just you know only fan stuff and it's just insane if you post anything on if you post anything on anything nowadays

I mean I will point to the first comment on Instagram post the Rumble did last week where a woman definitely a woman came on to me using an angle grinder in the studio and commented why do men go to the toilet

to touch themselves when they've seen my pictures click here to find out did you angle grind the comment not an adequate response to what was going on in that video one might suggest no but Pete I think you're forgetting that when it comes to Twitter it's been very successful

that establishing itself as the internet's town square. It is, yeah, just people having a chat about things, I would say. It's the town square if the town square was in, say, a town that had no laws or regulation or anyone with a job. And if it was in real life and that was the situation, the town square would quickly just fill up with human feces, you know, litter, a racist man shouting stuff. but look we could sit here and talk about darling all day Luke but we do have to get on with the Luke and Pete show

true yeah the I have become rather obsessed with a new story this week where um a load of energy drinks Celsius in America um a lot of the cans um what's an underwhelming name for an energy drink it is yeah it's very I think it's so I think it's yeah I'm not really sure why why have you Have you supped? I've never I've never I've never I've never I've never I've I've supped a lot of energy drinks and I even had a monster a little early on today a cheeky little sugar-free variant but um Celsius life fit

Astro vibe um the the can itself is just fucking random words been generated it was um it was they basically filled all of the cans with vodka neat vodka what it's like a process failure uh yeah I don't know actually vodka vodka vodka salsa they uh they uh they filled it with, which is somehow more, less appetising than drinking cheap vodka. But yeah, high noon vodka salsa got put in the Celsius live fit Astro vibe energy drink. Can you imagine what the fallout would have been if a load of, I know, drunk kids went to school?

Probably better for you. Probably better. It's probably a good point, actually. It's just water and vodka, isn't it? Oh, yeah, salters, a little bit of flavourings. I think there's an honesty and an integrity about making your own vodka. Right. I think if you're knocking it back, like, with sels of water to try and be fashionable.

Look, I'd dumb it down. I think it's a bit embarrassing, really. Do you not sort of have a, do, like, because good vodka's good, but there's not really that much good vodka kick out. But I don't think I've ever, I don't think I could ever be able to tell you what the, the difference. If you put, like, some potato vodka in front of me, someone had brewed in the bathtub at home, and whatever the most expensive vodka is,

is it grey goose or whatever it's people drink? I don't have a bit of tell of difference. I did the whiskey tasting about seven or eight months ago and it was decent single malt and people were telling me what I'm supposed to be tasting and I was tasting none of it. It all just tasted exactly the same. If you have like really nice Polish vodka from the freezer and obviously it doesn't freeze

because it's a decent amount of alcohol in there that is a rare trait that cannot be you know you can really taste the vodka I know what you want to taste the vodka yeah well like good vodka you can yeah I just any good vodka just make well like bad vodka

well I'll tell you what bad vodka tastes like it says it this oh when you drink it put the after shave in your mouth by accident is what it yeah pretty much that is grim isn't it that is grim I don't think I just don't have the taste buds. I don't have it. I just don't have it in me. No, no. What I do love is a really, really freezing cold lager in a frozen glass. Why don't you add a bit? Well, you're a big

tea man. Why couldn't you just add a little bit of milk in there? Milk and vodka? It could do. Gin and milk used to be a drink that used to drink back in the day, isn't it? Exactly. I'm not sure of it curdles or whatever, but that's what people used to do. By the way, you talked about Hulk Hogan dying. Ozzy Osmore's dead. Oh, yeah. Since we last recorded us, did, I guess he had. I guess he did. I didn't. I I didn't mention that, did we? Maybe not, actually, no. Maybe we didn't.

When did he die? I'm a check. Go on check, but no, you're quite right because I think we recorded on, I want to say Wednesday, and I think he died Thursday. But it's been a, yeah, it's been a big week for, you know,

men of the, famous men of the past, dying. If you type into Google, Ozzy Osbourne, there's a big thing that comes up, says, thanks for the mayhem, Prince of Darkness. Yeah.

There's a, you know, I'll cut myself as being the world's biggest Black Sabbath fan but I would say that there's a lot of like there's a lot of Ozzy Osbourne love from people who've never heard a single song he sang there's a lot of like quite sort of like companies getting on board and

all that shit but he managed to get to the end of his life without um apart from literally tried to murder his wife didn't he also murder 17 cats in that episode uh what he what he killed 17 cats or just had 17 cats

You know, that thing you're referring to where he was waiting for his wife to come home because he was having some kind of episode, and they staged an intervention. I'm pretty sure in that episode, he killed a lot of cats. Right. Okay. That's not been mentioned. They did mention a lot of places, a lot of outlets did mention that he attempted in a psychotic episode to kill his wife. But, yeah, I mean, but he's got away with that because it was an episode, and it was just one thing.

You know what I mean? It was just one day in his life where things just went very wrong indeed and it never happened again. So I think it's a message to Hulk Cogans, the whole Cogans of this world. I think Osse Ors come out of it. I mean, notwithstanding the Katz thing.

Which I've only just heard of. Yeah. He brought, I mean, that was 40 odd years ago and I think he was, I think he's, no, not defending it, but clearly he's spent a lot of time since then fighting quite hard on

half final I think as far as I know but so that that side he has come across as a bit of a national Trevor treasur posthumously isn't he almost a national Trevor then

he's a national Trevor but there's lot of I can't remember any Trevor Francis is great Trevor Francis was great and by all the county was a lovely block terrible congestion in his nose though

yeah Trevor I couldn't think of Trevor McDonald's probably he'd be the closest there's a mural of Trevor McDonnell Donald in Brixton. Yeah, okay, I'll take that. There's a guy... There's a guy who...

He looks a bit Swedish, maybe. Though you shouldn't sort of stereotype, but he looks a bit Swedish, and he basically lives in, or lived in a lot of India, and he sort of float around India and he's like one of those kind of hippie blocs. Anyway, he did some lovely kind of, like,

sort of travel logs on YouTube about, like, going around India and stuff and sort of saying, like, you know, this is how I drink water. He's literally drinking water out of the sewer with, like, a filter, and he's like, I'm going to be absolutely fine and he was

he's proper like but you don't know he's fine you don't know he's fine you know this fuck might have fallen off or something but um yeah and he seems like

quite you know he's quite into it and speaks um a few of the Indian languages and stuff anyway he uh he he this week was

filming Brixton and he's just going this is this this is this is this is a man he's just standing up but he's asleep

on the street going and like and I was a bit like come on mate Like, like, I don't know what fucking right-wing player we're doing here, but most cities are fucking standing up drug addicts, you know what I mean? Like, most towns don't get that. What was his kind of, I felt it was a little bit, um, uh,

it was a little bit anti-London rhetoric, to be honest. Oh, Sadiq's ruined it. Yeah, it was a bit anti-Sadik for me, but, um, which was a shame because I like it stuff and I don't know why he's suddenly going down this route when, you know, most metropolitan, you know, cities will. will have a drug problem. Listen, I'm in Brixton almost every day. I was in Brixton earlier.

Yeah, standing up in sleep. And I saw a bloke filming me. And I was like, no, but you've got to be able to, I think you've got to put your kind of Brickston hat on. You've got to be, you've got to be kind of like quite assertive and not have any truck with people coming up to you and talking to you. You can be rude or physical or anything like that. But you've got to, you've got to, you've got to,

know what you're about if you know what I mean. I think if you turned up at Brixton Station walked out the station for the first time ever in the middle of what could be any time

a day or night because it's always busy and started looking around with your mouth wide open you pretty quickly get fucking certain it happens there's like a blog

just going walking out of the tube station he's gone just going just going just shouting and it's like yeah I mean

you get that you're in a city mate like I'm sure you get that same sort of stuff in there's a broken bricks outside

the tube station every day so you know you get buskers outside tube stations, right? And, yeah, it's normally a vaguely annoying, wispy, indie kid with floppy hair and acoustic guitar doing a cover of like, I don't know,

probably was going to cover of OAS songs at the moment because everyone's talking about Oasis, right? There's a bloke the other day when I came out of Brixton Station who was, he had this like portable speaker, so distorted. And it was banging out this kind of quite, repetitive dance hall rhythm right and he was just fucking screaming like rag a rap like dancehall rap at the top of his voice down like a five pound karaoke microphone is so oppressive just better just better though he didn't even have a cap out for money I think he's just

fucking getting on with it just getting stuck into his work like it was real you could hear it from like the second staircase down into the tube it was so brutal I don't mind sociopaths like that I don't mind, you know, just people just on the street just having a fucking good time and sure everyone what they can do. Because I was trying to find a line bike, right? And you can't have them directly outside the station because it's like, it's not a parking area, right?

So I was looking around for one. And I could just hear him after a while. Someone had obviously taken exception to it and be like, mate, this is too loud or whatever. And I could just hear him down the microphone, just going, pussy oh, pussy on, over and over again. Hey, look, they pump out that classical. music in Brickson's station

just to drown out him they do it in Clitwood Brickson as well don't now remember it? Not anymore. They're used to. They've lost the battle against them the man who's doing this dance-all stuff. The dance-all guy. It's an amazing place. It's a singular

place, Brickson. I love going through there. It's great. The thing is if you wanted to live there, if you wanted like a really vibrant lifestyle, you want to live there, you can't fucking afford it. It's impossible to live there. It's really expensive to live there compared to where I live. I told you in the preter, Brickson, the food is nowhere near the door. Yes.

It's about 15 feet away from the door and there's a security guard. Well, they had, I remember outside out my house, he just used to pitch up every single night because it was near all the bars and where the footfall was for all the bars and all Compton Street and stuff. And you'd have like a bloke, I think it's Spanish, I think he was, Spanish bloke with a massive sort of speaker, massive piece. year and an ox cable and he would just play constant renditions of the Titanic theme nice that's pleasing by what my heart will go on my heart will go on and he can't even get for

a single play of that and he'd let people have a song and he'd take money off him and uh but he would he would be outside my house i was just i would hear my heart will go on three times a night every night in my life for seven years I think it's one of the worst songs ever committed to acetate. I don't know, it's all right, isn't it? I went to a thing at Royal Albert Hall a while back and it was, they do it once a year.

It's a charity thing, I think. And they get the London Philharmonic to do great movie themes, right? Yeah. And the Wi-Fi of access to it was well into going, so we went. It was really good, it was really cool. And I think the theme that year was Oscar winners and stuff. And then a guy come out who presented it. And then they'd have these, like, guest singers come out.

And it was fucking cool, because they started out with, like, I don't know, Jurassic Park. And then they did, like, yeah, whatever. But when they did, my heart will go on. They just killed it for me. Right. Just not. The first couple of bars of it, I can't wait for it to be over. I was not into it.

Why are you so not into it? It's so weird to have a real problem with that. Speaking of, by the way, just going back speaking about, about like London living and stuff. There's a certain element to the criticism of London by these cultural types, right? And we all know what it is

and they have a go to Zadikkar and they talk about... But the actual, the statistics around London at the moment don't bear that out at all by the way. That's an aside, you know, you're actually less likely to be a victim of certain types of crime

in London and you are elsewhere in the country. Yeah, it's kind of broader as you'd expect. It's not actually that dangerous a place as big cities go. Anyway. what it does to you though is it makes you a certain type of person doesn't it living in london and and i can remember when i was young um and i moved to london some of my friends who who didn't move to london um for their own reasons would like slag it off right and and and a couple

of them have since since admitted to it to me like in later life i was just because i was just scared to go in there like i didn't want to go there it's like a bit intimidating blah blah kind of thing and i think it's a massive element of that to a lot of the coverage of it from the right wing yeah there is an element of it that they're racist and they fill out of place because they don't recognize a multicultural society right and that's their own problem but there's also a element of it it's just fucking frightened right whenever i see it see people talking about it i just you just frightened like you're frightened of anything different and you're frightened of it being something that's a big pond and you're going to be a small fish in it and um it's just so transparent

and obvious but when the part of the top sometimes i catch myself noticing the type of person I've become as a Londoner compared to what I used to be like because going back to that kind of you know that Brixton thing when I was outside Highbury and Islington station which is where our old office was and for those listening the other about a few weeks ago there's a lot of charity muggers there and they're young lads and um have you noticed like an increase in charity muggers yeah I've had like lords large people come out of my house everything and I've got yeah they come to our house well I've got my technique is just that I'm just like ignore ignore ignore

if they don't get out the way I'll just say get out the fucking way and that'll be that right because they're playing the numbers game right they don't want a confrontation they don't care but it's hard to it's hard not it's it's hard to get kind of because I'm obviously polite

to a fault with most people and I'm scared of my own shadow but that like it's the four hello mate how you're doing like your hair like your jacket and it's just oh fuck off you don't like my hair you don't like my jacket you don't want to kiss me

No. They don't want to do any of those things. So the point I was just going to make, I agree with you, but the point I was just going to make was this young lad who was obviously a bit exuberant and a bit kind of enthusiastic.

He tried to get my attention. I was walking down to the station. I actually just wanted to get home. And I know that I deal with that stuff all the time. It's a shit job, I get it. But he kind of grabbed my arm. Yes. So I was like, and obviously,

for those who don't know me, I'm quite a big guy. Yeah. And I don't know. just stopped in my tracks, looked at him, and said, take your fucking hands off me. And he was, like, flipped it the other way, like proper passive-aggressive. It was like, oh, no, no, no, no, it's just, you know, I don't want to, I just walked off.

But that to me is, I'm not saying it's a crime, but that shouldn't be acceptable, shouldn't it? No, you should, I mean, it's, that's not, if that's your, like, sort of M-O, he won't be, you won't be the first person who's told him to fuck off that thing. But I'm grabbing, like, grabbing someone, it's mental. Do you know what I mean it's like mental Didn't it I'd fault the floor You know like you see those

Yeah just chucks on the floor Hold on your face Have you ever seen those sort of videos From like China where if you Get into like a scuffle With someone You like And you're being filmed

You do like a football Or sort of fall backwards So like if you like swing at somebody You instantly just throw yourself on the floor Because if you damage someone And they you know Have a lifelong Change in their

you know, physical, physicality, I think. The insurance would pay out that you were liable, so you have to basically pay all of your money every month to the person who you've hurt. There's just a lot of insurance scams going on, so you see these sort of blocks squaring up. One person punches the other one,

and that person goes down, and then the guy who's just done the cool punch, just throws himself on the floor. A bit of insurance, bit of coverage. Bit of coverage. It's lovely stuff. You should have done a bit of that. Oh, my arm.

I should have taken a dive, shouldn't I? I was just, I was a bit of insurance. confused and then a bit like what the fuck like i think i think you do develop a um a kind of thicker skin in london because definitely definitely you can't have to i suppose and and and also just kind of like just a just a you're less curious you know if like people if you hear like a loud noise in if i hear a loud noise in leon C everyone goes fuck and it's on like um it's on the what's up group it's on the what's up group within seconds uh but if um but if you hear that in like you know any anywhere inside the m25 you're just like it's it's a city people are there's a lot of people here speaking

about the what i totally agree speaking of the WhatsApp group um our street one there's a weird one the other day on our street one right someone posted uh a message on the street WhatsApp group saying um we volunteered our garden wall um for all the kids to um to to to um to to to um to to to draw and colour in on it and we left a load chalk out for the kids to get stuck into our golden wall and we're a bit disappointed because no one did it and so we've left the chalk out again would anyone like to do it tomorrow

on Sunday? It feels a bit kinky or even... Are you fucking mad? I've just had some guy pressure washing his name into my wall and I'm still fuming about that. Bring him back. What are you doing? What are you doing?

That's going to be full of penises in two hours time. Our neighbour of the road Sponging cocked all over your garden wall Yeah you don't make that offer in London There was a bloc in there's a bloc over the road He was getting married And he was away for his holiday

And his honeymoon And he came back and we'd drawn a load of Like you know happy wedding You know congratulations all the bollocks On his on his patio And it was just like It was everyone was very excited about I was a bit like

He's not going to be happy with this He's always, he's always cleaning this. Have you heard the result? Have you heard, have you come back yet? Yeah, he came back and he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, I know inside, he wasn't happy with it. I've, I've, um, we've, um, other, other neighbours, um, got some, uh, goldfish and a giddy pig, and, uh, I have, like, I've been specifically, um, feeding him, and I've lost the key. So now I'm just having to climb over their wall every day. Like a high wall. Idiots all round.

First of all, the person hiring you to do it is a complete moron. To be fair, they asked Sarah now, I don't know where that key's gone. I'm going to have to just climb over the fucking wall again, aren't I? I locked all three of us out yesterday. Yes, come on. These are the stories I'll never hear about you being a liability. That's what I like. Well, I, the wife I've access to brought our son home from nursery.

And I went down the stairs to go out to meet him in the front garden. because I was looking forward to seeing him and as I walked out there and the wife I've actually gave me the key I ran back inside to take the buggy in dropped the key on the side came back out again to get him and the door just shut

so we had to call our neighbour who was at the shops with her toddler and say can you come home please because we're stuck outside and we think it might rain so she came home and that's in Would it have been better if you had it would have been worse if, say, if baby was inside.

Exactly, we talked about before. That's the fear. That's the fear. Especially at the age years, because he'll just cause havoc. Within seconds. Like, you'll, even if you found it in your back pocket, if he gets access to the house without you being able to get in there, he just has one second before you open the door and everything smashed up.

Yeah, it'd be a disaster. Absolutely disaster. But thankfully, disaster was averted. Peter, let's have a break. When we come back, I've got an email from someone, who would like to talk about Dutch cuisine. This episode is sponsored by the OCS summer pre-roll sale. Sometimes when you roll your own joint,

things can turn out a little differently than what you expect it. Maybe it's a little too loose, maybe it's a little too flimsy, or maybe it's a little too covered in dirt because your best friend distracted you and you dropped it on the ground. There's a million ways to roll a joint wrong, but there's one roll that's always perfect,

the pre-roll. Shop the summer pre-roll and infuse pre-roll sale today at OCS.ca and participating retailers. It's the Lucan Pete. I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm joined by Mr. Lucie Moore. Looky Moore, we've got some dispatches, some reports, a telegram or two. And something about a Dutch oven? Not quite, although similar. So I said a week or two ago that Dutch cuisine has to be the worst in the world that I've ever experienced.

Very bland. It's baked goods only. It's really mild cheese. It's pickled vegetables. And that's basically it. Well, Rubin, our friend Rubin, who's a listener, who is Dutch, but lives in the northeast of England now, has emailed. And he says, hello, long-time listener, a third time emailer.

I recently listened to your episode where Luke Lambasted, the Dutch cuisine. As a Dutchman now living in Yarm, let me tell you, I can't say you're wrong when it comes to Dutch meals. We are quintessential meat and potatoes. With some Dutch meals being a pea soup called snurt, we also have a mashed potato, sauerkraut and bacon dish with a sausage on top called stam pot, which is actually a bit better than it sounds or looks.

Fundamentally, though, we only excel when it comes to snacks. Bitter-ballin is the best beer snack. It's deep-fried balls of beef ragu. We also have the best fries in the world. We have the famous Stroop Waffle, Speculose, which you were more commonly known as Biscophe. Yeah, I love a speckyloose. Good point, actually, yeah. They do do sweets quite well.

If you're familiar with the Australian fairy bread, that comes from the Dutch haggleslag. So whilst I admit Dutch cuisine isn't top-notch when it comes to meals, it rivals few when it comes to non-meals. Oh, and finally, the best Indonesian food outside of Indonesia can be found in the Netherlands due to our questionable colonial past. Lots of love for you and the pod, Rubin. So I hadn't really considered the snack element of it, Peter.

Yeah, it's a good point, actually, And candies and desserts and stuff, they really do excel. Do you like a strupe waffle? I bloody love it. The day I discovered, you could buy those packs of like five or six strupe waffles at the... Usually just at like an off license, like, about like 15 years ago. Oh, that might, my health place them on your cup of coffee, aren't you? So they melt.

Yeah, so they go all gooey and melting. I would say that air, it's funny because Rubin is a sandwich and he could have had a delicious corned beef and sauerkraut and cheese sandwich. and also I think Latvia, which is a country I've visited quite recently, may happily go to-to-to-to as to terrible foods. Grey peas with bacon is their national sort of dish. Grapeas, why call them grey peas? There's a lot of Eastern European food that doesn't quite hit the mark for me.

I remember when we were in Kiev. But you guaranteed a delicious dumpling somewhere, but I just don't think grey peas should be a Latvian cuisine. But do you remember that food? I mean, you were actually quite into it. But when we're in Kiev for work, there was a couple of things. One was that slo, kind of fat, that horrible. Yes, please.

And then there was also, like, a load of, like, jellied meat that basically just, like, tinned cat food. Yeah. It's, yeah, as long as the meat isn't, like, re, like, I would say jelly deals are the most offensive food in Europe. I would say that is, that is very hard to get down. That's, that's very hard to get down at the best of times. but um yeah but they're cooked first at least the eels are cooked first though yeah but the meat will be cooked first or at least cured so jelly deals i think people get confused and think it's just raw eels and jelly but it's not they're boiled aren't there then then the then the kind of stock

cools down and solidifies into jelly right yeah so i'm not saying it's nice it's not so i didn't realize that it's like why don't you just warm the jelly deals and the jelly becomes a stock a soup do you know what i mean so it is i thought jelly i thought that jelly stuff i mean i guess some of it does because eels do emit that jelly, don't it? It's disgusting. But like the actual stock itself, the jellied part of it, is just a soup. And I didn't know that. I thought it was like something that the jellyed, a jelly that the eels somehow omitted under duress. But yeah, and maybe it's a mixture of the two.

But they could just do better things with it. I like eels in Japanese cuisine, Chinese cuisine, love them. but yeah jelly deals you're not you've you've not cooked it yet guys you've not put it in a dish no it's not for me I like pie mash and liquor which is where I mean basically for those people who do listen don't really know anything about this kind of thing in East London the tradition is pie mash shops

they do pie mash and this kind of parsley sauce called liquor but that's normally those kind of places also do the jelly deals don't they yeah and again so the sauce the liquor is I mean it is bold to even call it a sauce because it just seems to be water flour parsley that's it Yeah, it's a parsley sauce, yeah. It's a pasty sauce.

I think you're supposed to, I think of what a lot of people do is bang a load of pepper and vinegar and probably these days HP on it as well. I like pie and mash, but I mean, I didn't realize before I had it that piemash actually, the only filling you can get is minced beef. Did you know that? What do you mean? I said, like, the audience you can't choose different types of pies. I see. It's just, it's just the best pie, to be fair. Like the beef in a pie is the best, you know, beef or lamb, right?

Red meat in a pie is the best thing. I can't be asked me out of lamb pie. A lamb pie. What's about chicken hermit leak? Yeah, all right, fine. I mean, it's all very simple stuff, in it. Get in touch with your favourite cuisine, that's what I would say. Get in touch with your favourite pie, that's what I say.

There's that delicacy they serve in Iceland, which is basically fermented shark in its own piss. Yeah, you were sending around the video of a man puking. Oh, God, it's a funny video, to be fair, but it's absolutely horrendous. I'm convinced half of these things I just invented to take the piss out of tourists Yeah pretty much

I really want to take an authentic experience First of all you can't afford to eat anything in Iceland It's impossible I bought a bow tie once there and it's 55 quid And it's so disgusting the actual The hot dogs are the main cuisine in Iceland You can buy them everywhere But like you'd say that with the fermented shark and stuff

They you know they skin the shark then they hang it up so it's fed it then they bury it for a bit and they sell it in little cubes because they know nobody wants to fucking eat it so like they sell it in such small amounts

because they know it's disgusting and it says like binjews so like they don't actually have to sort of kill that many many fermented for any many sharks I would say I think it's also traditionally using Greenland shark

which is that shark that was found to be the oldest shark have you heard that story about the Greenland shark No, the green and sharks is the older shark So green and sharks Basically Have the longest

Lifespan Right Of any I think I want to say any animal It might be any vertebrate Or any kind of fish Not even that mad lobster that's just Is it technically?

Or is it lobsters that are technically There's a form of Is it well you mean that kind of That thing that never basic never dies? Basically never dies Which I think I don't know that counts. I don't think that counts.

I think that's a separate, a separate phylum. But anyway, this green and shark, they're quite notoriously kind of difficult to find because they swim really deep. And I think the point about the delicacy is that when, I don't know, Icelanders back in the day got a green and shark, they're like, this is an amazing special thing. So they do all this stuff with it. Anyway, fairly recently, they were. carbon dating greenland sharks

and they were finding that some of them were 500 years old. Right, okay, yeah. It's just fucking insane. They've seen like the industrial revolution from afar. They've seen everything. So apparently the par, I'm reading it now,

the estimation of the par lifespan of a Greenland shark is 272 years and there's been ones that have been thought to have lived for over 500 years. Jesus Christ. I wonder what they do I mean that that that's top of the food chain stuff though

in it I suppose there was one there was one that was caught in 1936 and tagged and then they recaptured it in 1952 16 years later and it's grown like one inch

brilliant so anyway yeah that that fermented shark delicacy thing is called apparently called Hakal yeah I don't know about the pronunciation's any good

but I saw it on sale in Reykjavik and it, fucking, they have to seal it in like airtight containers. Yeah, it's like in a cut of, one of those jars you get a, like the tops of those pressurized jars because it's just, it's not what you want in your restaurant. Would you get stuck into one, would you?

I've had a couple of cubes of it. It's just chewy. It's like eating the inside, it's like they're eating, you know, like the seal on a washing machine. You know, there's very strong smelling, but if it was entirely made of onions, that's pretty much it

Was it bad? Was it hard to get it down? It wasn't nice, but it wasn't like puky. If it was in any way liquefied, you would all of the liquid out of your body would leave in disgust at being in such proximity. And it was in like a kind of sort of little

tasting menu and I'm sorry to report that there was a bit of whale in there. Peter. Well, well, when in rum, I believe it was an accident at the time but you know what? I can't even, it's very hard to be, to face up to a cancellation when you literally can't remember anything about your life.

Also, um, whales are massive. They should just, um. Yeah, it's like a biopsy. The amount I ate was like, it would be like an eyelash to them. So give us it, yeah? Gizzy. Right, we'll see you on Thursday. Sorry for eating the whale.

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