The Luke and Pete Show - A Satisfying Stolen Shoe Horn

Episode Date: April 8, 2021

On today's episode, Pete dives into discussion about the most satisfying feelings in life, before Luke tells us what shoes to avoid wearing if you don't want to look old.Also on today's show, the boys share hacks on how to make it look like you're working when you're not, before A NEW PLAYER ENTERS THE GAME. Just two boys and a load of batteries - don't miss out!Get involved by dropping us an email over at [e-mail], or following us over on Instagram and Twitter - @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's thursday the 8th of april many happy returns if you are indeed a person who has your birthday on that day this is luke and peter i'm pete donaldson i'm joined by luke moore he's just swinging from his nalgene so i'll try and fill until he's able to speak again you all right mates i'm still here now gene still here oh still here they've not got in action it's been years but i'm still here still doing Gene. Still here. Oh, still here. They've not got in touch. It's been years, but I'm still here. Still doing it. Still repping the brand, baby.

Lovely old job. Two things, Luke. I have just been informed by Trainline that I'm eligible for a refund of £7.40 because I did not pick up some tickets that I bought. Not worth it. Not worth it, mate. Didn't need it. Didn't need it. Didn't need it.

Seriously. £7.40. How long? Think about, you don't have to tell us this, but think about your own salary. Think about how long it'll take you to get the refund and then work out if it'll be worth it or not. Yeah, true.

But that's what they are depending on, isn't it? That's what they, if they don't do it automatically. Actually, that is true. You should probably do it as principals. So few people with principles these days. What are your non-negotiable principles? You've heard my opinion on people who insist you take your shoes off at the door. Oh, yeah, this comes up all the time.

I don't know why you're so funny about this. I'm just like, I'll offer, but if you ask me, I'll think a little bit less of you. But why have you got, what happens if you've got dog shots? I don't care we're doing this again because this is mental. What happens if you've got dog shots on your shoes? I mean, it doesn't matter because I'll always offer. But if you tell me before I offer, I'll be upset.

But what happens if you offer and I say, yes, please take them off? No, no. I mean, sorry. When I mean I'll offer, I say, yes, please take them off? No, no. I mean, sorry. What I mean, I'll offer. I will always take my shoes off. So if someone asks me, if someone says it is my policy that nobody wears, that you don't wear shoes in the house. And especially when later I see you in shoes. I'm a little bit put out by that to be quite frank.

Well, listen. I'll always take my shoes off. You'll never see me in the house with shoes don't worry about that but if someone's i want to enjoy the person sort of going don't worry about that peter go no i will take the shoes off oh that's what you mean people okay so so my situation i can only speak on behalf of myself i you'll not catch me wearing shoes at any point we've got our houses on the first floor. The entrance is fairly obviously at the ground floor. We take our shoes off in the little carpeted bit, which is actually more like a large kind of welcome mat on that bit.

The shoes don't go any higher than that, generally speaking, unless my wife is feeling particularly cheeky, which is semi-regular, let's be honest. But you won't find me wearing shoes in the house. If you come to my house, which I don't think you've ever done, but if you did

and I open the door, what you're saying is if I just jump straight in there and the first thing I say is take your shoes off, you think that's poor form because you're ready to do, you're ready to go on that.

So you're ready to go straight away. I'm only willing, I'll have the shoe horn down the back of my ankle to be quite frank. Before you can say get your shoes off.

I'm a big fan of shoe horns. I want to go to an Airbnb. Do you like the long ones? ankle to be quite frank. Before you can say get your shoes off. I'm a big fan of shoe horns. I once went to an Airbnb. Do you like the long ones? I like the long ones. I've got a long one with a goose or maybe a duck's head. That's the one I've got. An amber duck's head, a little bit like Jurassic Park. That's

the shoe horn of my home. But yeah, big fan of shoe horns. I was in an Airbnb in Sweden once and, and this really classy man with a cool house that he's renting us. Um, he, he just, but he was pleased to see you.

He was just very sort of like, he just took his shoes right off with it, with it. I'll put them on with it, with the shoehorn. It was incredible. Incredible. I love to see it.

It's one of those things for me, like I said before doing your coat up when you've got shorts on you know things that are just really satisfying putting a shoe on

with a shoehorn is right up there for me I've got a shoehorn that I I'm going to be totally honest I stole from a hotel in Berlin called the Melia Hotel

if you're listening to Berlin Melia get in touch you can have it back. I'm a man of greater means now. I could probably afford my own one. And yeah, I've never looked back, to be honest. I enjoy it a great deal,

particularly with formal shoes. Don't need to worry about it with trainers, but formal shoes, it's a great thing. I do like the idea of a big long one with a duck's head at the top. That sounds amazing. Yeah, no, it's a classy little horn, so to speak. Did you use it this morning?

I did use it this morning to put my little trainers on. Andy Brassel from the Football Ramble. I fancied a pair of trainers because I've only got some dirty old Adidas Samba because I live out in the sticks and it's very muddy, very dusty, very sandy. And so my kicks are always absolutely covered in filth. I was like, you know what?

It'd be quite nice to have a pair of shoes that I don't wear when I take the dogs for a walk, just for everyday use. And I went, Andy, what shoes would you say I should get? And he said sort of, what do you call them? Not high tops, but like half length or quarter length. I don't really know what they're called. He's a bit of a sneak ahead, isn't he, Brassel? He's a bit of a sneak ahead.

So he said get some Nike Air Docare doings so i got some nightcare doings and they're very comfortable very comfortable but i do put them on with a shoehorn like all the rappers do have you not got any like proper walking shoes for your countryside now mark hans who does the the wrestle me podcast me, he's got a pair of like sort of, they're not professional hiking shoes, but they're decent hiking shoes. And he's had them for about four years and they look very comfortable. They look like slippers these days.

They're lovely. Yeah. Yeah. But you, this is, I get the impression that walking shoes is a heel you're prepared to die on. Yeah. Can't be arsed of them.

Can't be. Yeah. You'll get to 60 and be like, I'm not getting old man's walking shoes. There was a guy I used to work with who refused to... He had this real kind of thing about... I don't really know why, but he refused to have a pair of formal shoes,

any kind of formal shoes, and he refused to wear a coat. So he would only wear hoodies. So even if it was pissing it down, he would only wear a hoodie. Very absorbent, the old hoodies. Yeah, it's the last thing you want.

It's the absolute last thing you want. But he was very kind of, no, if I get a coat and formal shoes, it means I'm old. And it was like, well, you are quite old. You're the same age as me. Peter, I was going to ask you if you'd seen this story about the deepest known shipwreck being dived down to

with a remote control sub and investigated. Bloody fascinating. There's a ship called the USS Johnston, which I think was sanctioned in World War II by, I believe, the Japanese, the Battle of Samar in 1944. And it currently lies 6,456 meters beneath the surface of the Filipino Sea

or the Philippine Sea. And they sent a... The expedition sent a little sub, piloted sub down there to have a look. And because it's so deep, apparently, there's hardly any oxygen. So it's really beautifully preserved. And some of the photos look absolutely fascinating,

in my opinion. Really, really interesting. The gun mounts look really, really good. They look like something out of an ethics kit. Very enjoyable. Are there any kind of... Are there any kind of... The gun mounts look really, really good. They look like something out of an ethics kit. Very enjoyable. Are there any kind of... Would there be bodies down there? If there's no oxygen, they may have been preserved?

Yeah, I'm not sure. It didn't go into that. But it was a very, very... Well, I'm sure they're all pretty horrific, but it was a particularly horrific sinking because only 141 of the crew of 300-something, 327, I think, think actually survived so i'm not sure if they all went down with the ship or not um i don't know if they're going to do a bit more

of a uh a further exploration of it um but no sorry it did say at the bottom of the article actually no human remains or clothing were found um but the team did take the time to lay wreaths before and after the dive to commemorate the people who sadly perished. But what it reminded me of was, and I'll tell you about the Mary Rose. I think I might have told you about it before a long time ago, but that was Henry VIII's warship that's now in the Mary Rose Museum in Portsmouth Dockyard. It is absolutely ridiculous.

It's so well preserved because it sank on its maiden voyage, which was brand new, and it sank so fast and it was so heavy that it basically just buried itself in the silt at the bottom of the solent. Right, okay. So when they raised it, half of it, I think,

pretty much half of it was almost fully preserved and given that it's 500 years old, it's amazing honestly if you're a fan of museums anyway or even if you're not everyone listening

if you're not going to be able to go abroad this year you're not going to go do anything you want to go on a little day trip somewhere go to the Mary Rose Museum in Portsmouth Dockyard

it's incredible they've got like 500, 600 year old fully preserved like ships, dogs, skeletons and backgammon sets and cooking pot it's it's incredible year old fully preserved like ships dog skeletons and backgammon sets

and cooking pot it's incredible it is incredible and they didn't pause the dogs the dog skeletons in like the dogs playing poker the

dogs playing backgammon they're playing snooker yeah they could be playing something else one of the dogs

is so well preserved it's got a little cigarillo still in its mouth and a visor on. Yeah, having a lovely time. One of the theories about why Heavily Apes Worship the Mary Rose sank is because he came down to Portsmouth to see it off

on its maiden voyage, and they were so desperate to impress him, they overloaded it so much, it just instantly sank. I mean, it's bad really why would he sort of like be impressed by an overlaid and bought it would just move really slowly wouldn't i think it's canon mate i think it's canon right okay there's just so many canon on it that um and by the way why is canon the plural of canon not cannons a good point actually yeah it annoys me

when they say that do you remember when boris johnson went mental with those water cannon right yeah do you remember he just bought a mental with those water cannon? Right, yeah. Do you remember? He just bought a load of them. Yeah, he bought, yeah. It was like 300,000 or something of things he couldn't use. And it was in the news a lot. Why couldn't they use it?

It was like the Geneva Convention or something. Like, he literally couldn't use them because of the law. The law. And they also weren't, I don't think they were at all suitable for the topography or the environment they were designed to be used in. No. Or that they bought them for that reason. But anyway, that was in the news. That was a simpler time, as sad as it is to say now.

But that was in the news a lot and they kept calling cannon, the plural of cannon, cannon, and it really annoyed me. Yeah, okay. Yeah, water cannon. It's also one of those things where it looks like being hit by one of those water cannons

would be quite fun. I imagine, yeah. But it wouldn't be, would it? No. I think your eardrums would explode immediately, your eyes would turn to jelly, and you'd be... Bones broken. Bones broken, propelled backwards, crack your head on the pavement, and you'd be dead. Well, you've not really sold it into me there.

No, no. It doesn't look enjoyable. It doesn't look enjoyable. It does not look enjoyable. I'll tell you what, Luke. I, speaking of falling over on some hard paving slabs that possibly are illegal, got the survey back from the house and then went to go and look at the house.

Oh, great. Good news. Saved the survey, man. Oh, it's fair to say the house survey came in and it was not complimentary about the home. No. And this fair play really annoyed the person who was selling the house, bless him.

He was really upset about it. Oh, he did not. He was a proud homeowner and he was not pleased with how the man, the surveyor who came round, who refused to wear a mask and spent most of the time just jumping up and down

on the kitchen floor. It's the easiest job in the world. I think it's the hardest, one of the hardest jobs in the world. It was a very detailed surveying. Yeah, but who's checking that he's actually got the detail right? He's basically just trying to find things wrong

with the house, which he's always going to be able to do. And he's going to cover his arse by overstating it. And then when I went round and I was like, and I'm not an expert, but I'm fairly certain that if you do have woodworm holes in a bit of wood, they don't heal themselves over time. And so if it was in the survey when they bought the house,

the holes are still going to be there when we buy it it's not going to heal is it no did you take your tape measure didn't take my tape measure no I didn't need to you should have clipped it onto your belt yes

but never used it show him that I mean business but yeah he was very emotionally distressed by what the severe had drawn well we had a peek around everything was fine I'll buy that money pit no problems

yeah that's what i thought when i ended up dropping two and a half grand on my roof repair last week but peter um if you i think it's a really good idea if you're going to go and buy something practical you're going to go to a diy store you're going to deal with a tradesman you're going to go and buy a house just pop a tape measure on your belt. Never use it. Never refer to it. It's a deterrent. A deterrent for people who are going to try and steal the money off you. They just think if a man walks around with a tape measure on his belt, he's probably done a lot of practical hands-on work in the past

and he knows what he's doing. The more battered the tape measure, the better. A bit of paint on my face. Have I got a bit of paint on my face? A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And it's the same as the office equivalent of

you've got an office job that you don't like you and I Pete have certainly been there and you want to have a little skive have a little wander around make sure you put

a piece of paper in your hand because no one questions you they think oh he's off to do something there was a great story I heard about a guy

who was in the army didn't like it much couldn't be asked to do anything there was a great story I heard about a guy who was in the army didn't like it much couldn't be asked to do anything so he bought a second beret so when he was in his office

he could leave his other beret on the desk he bought a coaster a bluetooth coaster which kept his coffee warm right

left his coffee on there left his spare beret on the desk so when anyone poked their head into his office and he wasn't there, they thought, oh, he's got a brand new fresh cup of coffee in his berries.

He can't have gone far. I'll come back in a bit. Never got pulled up on it. That's a wonderful, wonderful situation to be in. There's lots of hacks. There's lots of hacks. I think a tape measure for you will stand you in good stead. My mate, who actually lives down near where you come from, Pompey,

he was on base in Baghdad a few months ago in what can only be described as a shipping container. And all of the people on the base, he said, were just spending all of their time getting out of as much work as they possibly could. And then also WhatsAppping him and asking for a commendation at the same time. Apparently all the Italians on the base just turned up with loads of prosecco and we're just secretly drinking grappa

and prosecco and you shouldn't be drinking on a base because you've got live firearms and you know drills to do and stuff um but they were just that's what i'll tell you about our office you've got drills to do what are you doing right he was just like they'd be doing that and then they'd be texting him going can I have a commendation it'd be really great for my career sure it would be I'm sure it would be

do you want to go do they have visitors can you visit I'd love to go to Baghdad when it's all a bit safer would your presence

there make it safer I probably would I think so they'd probably just come down and go whoa this guy let's have a quick break and when we come back,

we'll do some more battery brands to see if anyone's got a new player entering the game and we'll also clear up some of the disgusting emails left over from Monday. See you in a minute. This week at Sukarnov.

Over on Clash of the Titles, the gang are counting down to the Oscars with a special month of Best Picture Clashes. Rocky won the Oscar that year. Do you guys think it was a deserving winner that year or do you think something else should have won? I think Taxi Driver should have won. I am with you, Vicky.

My heart says Rocky. Rocky's one of my favourite films of all time. I don't like watching Taxi Driver, but it is amazing. It's so true. No one's ever like, do you want to bosh Taxi Driver? Or if that doesn't tickle your fancy, and why wouldn't it, check out the book club on Football Ramble Presents, where former footballer Ricky Hill

discusses the highs and lows of his storied career. My schoolmaster came in afterwards us and said, oh, you know, you've been invited, three of you have been invited for trials up at Luton. Oh, what a feeling. Where is Luton? I had no idea. And I said, well, I'm not going.

All that, and a whole lot more, at Sukarnov. It's Thursday. It's the second half of Luke and Pete's show. Two boys with batteries. Battery brands on a Thursday. We do it every single time. Luke, have we got any new competitors?

Yeah, we've got three candidates. Three candidates this week. The first one is from HasHasHas, who's Twitter account. I can't see it because I've muted him. But he's apparently, I don't know why that is, HasHasHas. Perhaps you want to send an explanation. I'm not sure.

He's sent in Agfa Photo batteries. Agfa Photo, which I've certainly never seen before. So, Pete, if you want to pass them, they can be a new player. I've seen them personally, but they've not been kind of submitted. Agfa's a big, obviously, a big kind of historical brand from... Why, then they can't be counted, surely? I've seen them before, but they've never been submitted officially to the Luke and Pete Shaw Cannons, so I think... Or Cannons.

I think that Hazaz has may very well have sneaked in with a really obvious one, but, you know... OK, is that how it works now. But, you know. Okay. Is that how it works now? Yeah, I think it works. You've seen it before? Okay, fine. But as long as they haven't been submitted to the show, that's absolutely fine.

Fine. Okay. As you're in. Harry Lewis is next up with a delightfully titled pair of Dick Smith batteries. Wow. Dick Smith. That has got to be a new player.

I've never seen those before. I don't know if you've seen them, Pete, but they look completely new to me. Wow. Dick Smith. That has got to be a new player. I've never seen those before. I don't know if you've seen them, Pete, but they look completely new to me. Yeah, well, I mean, obviously they used to. They probably came from Dick Kingsmith, the writer. Probably powered him for a few years until he died a few years ago. So yeah, that's maybe why we're seeing them out in the wild.

The batteries that used to live inside celebrated writer Dick Kingsmith. Now they have to be, you know, out in the wild the batteries that used to live inside celebrated writer dick king smith now they have to be you know they had a had an eu surplus and now they're out in the wild for us i thought there might be a an homage to the celebrated father of film makeup dick smith who is known for his work on such films as the godfather the The Exorcist, Taxi Driver and Scanners. He won an Academy Award for Best Makeup on his work on the seminal Amadeus. So he died in 2014 aged 92.

So a lovely tribute to either one of those people and a new player entering the game. Right off the dome piece, all that information from Lukey Moore there. Yeah, I didn't just type in dick smith into google and then ben power has emailed with also he's actually tweeted i apologize he's

actually tweeted with a battery with just winners on the side of it winners i mean look it puts me in memory of the uh bloke who's just down

outside oxford circus tube station shouting you're either a sinner or you're a winner. I remember him. The really broad-scout guy. Yeah.

For that, I celebrate him. Is it Gin Jabin? Gin Jabin? Gin Jabin. Gin Jabin, yeah, but he's called Ben Power in real life. Oh, okay, right, okay. So, yeah, that's a hat-trick of new players. Great stuff.

Great to see. Standard's never been higher. Standard. Pete, what happened to the Sinnerall winner guy at Oxford Circus? He was around for years. I completely forgot about him. He got moved on as a menace, I think. I remember the website B3TA used to do a piece about him,

but he would just bother a lot of people and he would try and and freestyle um you know uh customer specific stuff um and it was never good he's kind of tried and tested kind of like stuff that he'd been using for for decades so i got he might still be around but he's certainly not allowed around oxford sagas maybe now they've got rid of the old um top man oxford circus the oxford circus diagonal crossing probably won't be such a big draw anymore and and maybe you can find a bit more of an audience elsewhere so we too so i might have might have believed then that he rather than just doing his stated general kind of jesus saves kind of common or garden yeah best

greatest hits playlist of of of christian stuff through a megaphone. This guy was revolutionary as far as he was branching out, targeting individual people walking around and referencing them personally. Yeah. That's great work. That's a nice red shirt. Do you know who else has a red shirt? Jesus, when he got on that cross.

Sinner or winner? That's all he'd roll the punches at. I quite rate that. It wasn't very good. That's much better than the boring stuff the punches at. I quite rate that. It wasn't very good. That's much better than the boring stuff. Nah, it wasn't very good. Was not very good. Fair enough. You've got to judge him on his results, I suppose.

Exactly. We've got some emails, Luke Moore. If you want to get to the show, as always, hello at lukepeachshow.com. Now, we got a message from Pilot Dave. Pilot Dave is here. I love this email. I selected this one as well.

I love it. It's very intensive. It is very intensive. Very comprehensive. A lot going email. I selected this one as well. I love it. It's very intensive. It is very intensive. Very comprehensive. A lot going on. Look, they are details and details orientated people. They are details focused people. Yeah. Pilots. As you can imagine, says pilot Dave, I have a bit of time on my hands so I thought

I'd briefly cover a few points. Firstly, life hacks. Here, when chopping garlic, cover your fingers in a bit of olive oil which creates a barrier between your fingers and the garlic stopping them smelling beware though the knife can become slippery in your hands number two uh not sure why maybe because they are old and as dodgy as they sound the flies on my jeans amber crombie come down a bit so a good hack is to put a key ring onto the bit you use to zip up the zip, hook it onto the button at the top, and then fasten the jeans over the key ring,

and it stops them coming down. That is ingenious behaviour. I don't really want to walk around with... A key ring. A key ring saying, Chessington World of Adventures, I'm off, I can fly my jeans. It's just the ring itself,

and you may not be able to see them if you do them properly. You do them up, and then move... Yeah, that would go underneath the flap of the jeans i reckon if it was small enough i don't like number one either olive oil you'd be slipping all over the place you cut yourself to ribbons you gotta be careful with that um when uh cooking the hole in the handle of the pan is there to hold the wooden spoon you used to cook with saving you putting a dirty spoon down on the worktop so the handle of the pan that could be good.

I'm just thinking my wooden spoons probably wouldn't have enough capacity for my wooden spoons, unfortunately. So what you're saying is then you've got a frying pan or a cooking pan. You've got a hole at the base of the handle. You put the wooden spoon in, spoon bit up, to save you putting the spoon down the side. I never considered that before. And at first thought thought it sounds amazing, but I wonder if it's going to drip everywhere.

Yeah, I mean, you'd have to give it a good old tonk on the side of the pan first, I suppose. But look, fascinating techniques from a man who knows his business. He's opening a conversation, that's all we can ask. He is, yeah. And Pilot Dave does go on to say about me referring to oil freezing and ice forming that could block the filters on an aircraft. This indeed could and has happened to fuel when flying at higher altitudes

and at higher latitudes over Russia and within the Arctic Circle. The fuel freeze point is usually minus 47 degrees Celsius, but the outside temperature can be a lot cooler. When flying these conditions for long periods of time, the can become icy so we have caution messages appear in the airplane that warns you the fuel temperature is low then you'd have to descend into warmer air warming the fuel up wow incredible that's good yeah and lastly in pilot neil's defense he may not even be a ba pilot because ba do lease out their simulators to third party operators so he could work for a number of airlines as a result

also, I don't know about the rest of your listeners but I'm worried about Pete on his scooter can we get him to give Luke three rings every time he safely completes a journey just to make sure he's okay yeah thank you for that message mate the problem with Pete is he keeps very different

hours to me so I remember once he called me at four in the morning when Alan Shearer got given the Newcastle United job. And you were still up and about. I think it was probably a Tuesday or something. And I was like, what are you calling me for? Yeah, you're in bed with your partner, as I recall. And I, yeah, I mean... The partner I have access to.

But remember those days, those heady days where I gave a shit about Newcastle? And me. And you. And that I was so excited that something was happening at my club. Something good. I mean, we were in a dire situation anyway.

So do you think, going back to the plane thing, do you think that... So when you are in a plane, you can feel it descend a few thousand feet or whatever. I always thought that was due to air traffic control or something, but it might just be because they want to keep it warm up a bit. A bit of both.

If you're flying over, I don't know, north of Finland, it's probably a good chance that you're trying to warm up the fuel a little bit. But yeah, incredible. Have you ever been to Finland? I have actually, yeah. I went about six months ago. It was very good. Couldn't have been six months ago. Probably long. Are you mad? Probably about a year. Probably. It was... I went probably about six months ago. It was very good. Couldn't have been six months ago.

Probably long. Are you mad? Probably about a year. Probably about a year ago I went to Finland. Where did you go? Helsinki? Yeah. What was good about it?

Very... The artisanal beer and coffee culture was very good. The people were very, very lovely. And you forget how close to russia it is so it's quite quite a nice mix of kind of like scandinavia and russia well it's just nice to know that you're quite close to russia it's just nice i just like to know when i'm close to russia but never it's not a country i've ever dirty my boots on in honor i wouldn't take them off before i'll get in obviously yeah provided i didn't ask you first. Did you have any pickled fish?

I've had pickled fish so far. No, I must admit, I didn't indulge in the Finnish delicacies. All right, let's wrap up. Good to get an update from you on that one, though, Pete. Let's wrap up with this email from Paul, who wants to give a shout-out to Honey Badgers, which I am generally very much in favour of. He says,

Gents, I seem to recall you spoke about honey badgers not too long ago. I don't know if you ever saw the original BBC documentary about the intelligence of the honey badger and a particular honey badger called Stoffel. This particular little monster broke into a lion enclosure, broke into a lion enclosure

to take on some lions and then went back a second time afterwards where he got mauled but survived. The sanctuary's owner tried to build an enclosure to stop him running amok, but he kept getting out. It's amazing. I have seen this. I think we should share the YouTube clip of it

on our Twitter account because it's basically a South African man who's got a pet honey badger or he's trying to look after it or something, some kind of sanctuary called Stoffel. And he develops an enclosure for the honey badger that is like an empty swimming pool because he keeps getting out of every single other type of enclosure.

And then I think at one point the honey badger gets out of the swimming pool by building a ladder out of a rake and going crazy and smashing through all the bins and stuff. It's an amazing watch. They are incredible, incredible creatures. You've got to watch it. So we'll share that on the Twitter. The honey badger,

I know it's a stereotypical thing to say. Everyone raves about them, but they are incredible. They're amazing. And they're not scared of anything. They go down snake holes to find black mamba snakes that will instantly kill them if they bite them. It's crazy. It's crazy stuff.

Mr. Stoffel, the days of your escaping are over. Fantastic. There's big claws coming over the top of his enclosure. Bloody brilliant. They also look like they've got quite punk, white, flat-top haircuts as well. Yeah, it's a bit Marine Corps, isn't it? Yeah, very much like a jarhead haircut, exactly.

Enjoyable. Absolutely. That's a great way to end the show and both the shows this week. We will be back on Monday for more of this nonsense, of course. You know the way to get in touch by now, but I'll re-up it just to remind you. Hello at LukeandPetra.com to say hello to us. Thank you to all our friends who've got in touch so far.

Do check us out on social media for other bits and pieces that you may not have heard on the show today. And do give us a review on Apple Podcasts when you get a moment it's always great to have that it's not just for our egos although it is partly for that it's mostly so other potential listeners can

find us and know what the show is all about so give us a shout on that Pete Donaldson it's been a bloody pleasure as always I will see you again soon but we'll speak to our listeners again on Monday. Say goodbye. Bye bye.

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