The Luke and Pete Show - A Warm Cup Of Nature’s Cafetière

Episode Date: February 1, 2021

On today’s show, Pete prepares a cup of eggy coffee before the boys chat about their previous job experiences, involving dodgy jeans, industrial estates and a baffling experience at Woolworths.Elsew...here, Luke discovers some mysterious stolen art before we discuss typical Dad mannerisms and Chinese takeaways from Deliveroo Donaldson. Listen now!Make sure to get in touch by emailing us over at hello@lukeandpeteshow.com with your latest news stories and any topics you'd like to hear us chatting about! We're also on Twitter and Instagram over at @lukeandpeteshow, so drop us a follow there too. Cheers! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the Orny Podcast, not sponsored by NordVPN until we are. This is the Luke and Pete show. I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm joined with Luke Moore. Hello, how are you doing? You alright? I'm very well, thank you. Yes, I was just putting my phone on silent, mate. Oh, well, Luke, I mean, we're in lockdown at the moment. It's very exciting that we are in a situation where we can actually see each other for once. We're using a video recording technique.
Starting point is 00:00:29 So I can see our lovely little jumper. You've got a lovely Game of Thrones mug, cup of tea, winter is coming. The North Remembrance Peak. How many sugars is in that? How much milk is in there? I have a milky tea, as regular listeners to this show might remember.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And as my colleagues regularly tease me about, I have a milky tea, as regular listeners to this show might remember, and as my colleagues regularly tease me about, I have a milky tea, but I don't have sugar. I do not have sugar. We're not savages here. We're milky boys. We're milky boys, but we're not savages. How are you, Peter?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Good, man. Yeah, good. I had a slight issue yesterday night where I sat down and watched a bit of telly and then about halfway through one of the episodes of i think modern family i sort of realized that luke in my deep and distant past when i was about 18 or 19 i did what can only be described as a three hour um well you know how i'm not that regular to be quite frank but i did a three hour kind of session uh at woolworths in hartlepool like i sat in an office god and the man from wool and yeah and the man from woolworths told me how to work in woolworths and now look i can't remember ever working at woolworths so i i think I'm having like a Mandela effect kind of memory
Starting point is 00:01:47 of working at Woolworths or doing some kind of like session for an hour. Did you get any pick and mix? I just – I remembered being trained up how to use tills, how to – you know, what to do on the shop floor. But I've never worked for Woolworths. What's that about? So back in the day, there was like a situation where they would hire supermarkets or big stores
Starting point is 00:02:11 like Woolworths would hire people. They'd do like a funding or like a hiring round and they'd get people in for the inductions and during the induction process, they would say, that guy's going to be on tools. That guy's going to be on stocking the shelves. That person's going to be whatever. I don't see how they see you.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, exactly. A bit like that. Why do they see you and think that you've got tills potential? Yeah, I don't know. I just remember messing around with the till. I don't ever remember working at Woolworths. God rest his soul. I had a situation where when I got back from being away,
Starting point is 00:02:44 travelling for a bit, before I moved up to London, I didn't really know what I was going to do or what I wanted to do. And my mum and dad, you know, fairly, and I think I probably thought it was even fair at the time, said to me, look, well, you're not sticking around here all day doing nothing, so go and get yourself a job. I managed to find myself a job in insurance at a, what's it called? What do you call it?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Like one of those kind of retail parks, like industrial estate. A Morrissey song? This already sounds like one. Well, trust me, heaven knew I was miserable then. And I don't agree with his politics, Morrissey. I don't agree with his jeans. No. Yeah, the jeans are big.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I mean, they are very big. Big boot cut boys. He constantly takes his shirt off and he's a man of advancing years. It's all very unedifying, isn't it? Where do you buy those jeans from, do you reckon? I don't know. These days, I mean, probably the same place that Simon Cowell gets his and he's in an awful mess of them all.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I don't know what he's been doing to his face. He spends more time with his shirt off on a yacht um with his face all messed up he's his face spends more time on bricks than it does actually perform you know i mean he looks like he's wearing a death mask of his own face it's so bizarre it's how much like i've never seen him look good but i have seen him him fucked up by the shit that he pumps in his face. It's so bizarre. I can remember members of my own family back in the heady, like proper big days of Pop Idol or whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:04:16 getting angry in like a proper working class way that Simon Cowell was obviously so wealthy, yet he dressed like that. Yes, yeah. way that Simon Cowell was obviously so wealthy yet he dressed like that yes yeah well you you frequently sort of find yourself um sort of perusing these the high-class magazines like Vanity Fair and things like that and rich people invariably do not know how to dress they either dress dress too expensively or they dress like Mark Zuckerberg uh and they just dress in it's like the clothes have been put on them it It's like the clothes have just been, they've all of a sudden become really wealthy.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And so what's happened is the clothes have just been put on them. You know, they say like you have to learn to be rich, right? You have to kind of get into a whole new mindset about being rich because otherwise it can make you quite unhappy. That's just what I've heard. I mean, I'd have no insight into that whatsoever. I mean, I'm already pretty unhappy and I'm not rich. And so you have to get into the mindset of someone who's rich.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And I think what they need to do is get into the mindset of someone who knows how to wear clothes. It's like a bizarre look. It is almost like they're only really on nodding terms with clothes. And I'll tell you another person who falls into this bracket. It's Ricky Gervais is like that. Yeah, he's very simplistic, isn't he? Just t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:05:33 He dresses like my dad, jogging bottoms and a t-shirt. I've seen him in two striped tracksuit bottoms. Now there is no need for that. Absolutely no need for that, is there? Like it's absolutely ridiculous. But anyway, so i'm on this industrial estate and i've got this job in insurance and my first day in the morning you just sit around watching endless powerpoint presentations from just awful soulless people
Starting point is 00:05:57 if you're listening at home as you can imagine imagine just tomorrow having to go to an industrial estate and and if you do you have my sympathies if you don't enjoy it, and just sitting, not wanting to be there, but just listening to people talk at you about what you need to do in terms of insurance. I knew nothing about insurance then. I know nothing about insurance now. It got to lunchtime, and I was allowed to leave the building
Starting point is 00:06:21 to go to get a sandwich or something from the designated place that you could buy a sandwich from this industrial estate because it was like a purpose-built kind of development and i just thought i was in the queue for a sandwich remember it now irish named place i can't remember exactly what it's called might be o'brien's or something i was in the queue and i remember it like it was yesterday i thought you know what i'm not going back i am not going back i snuck back in got my bag went home realized if i go if i went home my parents would be fuming with me so i just hung around the area for a bit to buy myself some time and then went home and my parents went up when my parents were home and
Starting point is 00:06:58 said oh you know it wasn't great and i ended up i ended up having to see out the week or something but it wasn't for me and i sometimes sometimes now forget that I even worked there. So for you to have a training morning but not remember actually fulfilling the brief is a very strange situation because you probably wouldn't have even been paid for that. Well, it's something that I did in, I think I spoke about this before,
Starting point is 00:07:21 I definitely worked in Cafe Nero for three days straight. You didn't say that before. You never told me that before. Four or five hours. Didn't get paid. Didn't get paid for it. All that happened was I did induction for three days. They got three days of labor out of me in Leicester,
Starting point is 00:07:34 and then just went on my merry way. Didn't get the job in the end. What year was that? Is that Cafe Nero in Leicester back then? Yeah, about 2001, 2002, yeah. I mean, I think I've said before, I covered a woman in form, in hot form. So it wasn't ideal.
Starting point is 00:07:53 But I'm fairly certain I never got paid for that. That was episode one of the sequel was, of course, the Orthodox Jewish woman and the blister. Always covering. I warmed up for that by hot foam. Women in hot liquid that's me the first thing you said to her was it's foam it's definitely it's milky can i just say so i watched so i saw a story uh earlier this week about a um a museum in germany which had a really valuable leonardo da vinci painting um returned to it
Starting point is 00:08:28 um and it turned out the museum didn't even know it had been stolen which by the way you would bluff you out of that if that was the case yeah oh yeah worst case scenario you're getting an extra da vinci don't tell them you haven't remembered it anyway and what it made me think of was um i i ended up and you know you sometimes get this situation where i mean i'm almost certain that devices are listening to my shit right so i won't even type something into a computer or a phone and i'll get an advert for something i've just mentioned to my wife like a week ago right yeah that's definitely happening right would you say i'd say it's definitely happening 100 yeah or it's not as bad as you think and you just you know you're looking for the um
Starting point is 00:09:10 the easiest kind of explanation i suppose you surely at some point you will have expressed a desire to buy a certain thing or you've been looking at certain things online um and it's just kind of have a test just start talking with your wife about i don't know you really want to buy a new like a rubber dinghy something and see if you get served i'll do that i'll do it now i would like to buy i would very much like to express my desire to be the owner of a rubber dinghy and i'm saying that into my phone right now so we'll see if i get served adverts for rubber dinghies in my google well the reason i say is because and i'll come on to the main point in just a second it's because i was someone was talking to me the other day in fact pete you're involved right there was a conversation
Starting point is 00:09:53 that we had on the phone only on the phone about a service called docu sign right yeah i've never heard of it before i've never mentioned it since I've never typed it into anything. All of a sudden, I'm getting adverts for it served up on the computer. Anyway, so that's kind of the example. The other thing is I looked at this story about the Da Vinci painting being returned to this museum, and I went onto Netflix last night just to watch something, and I got served up the Da Vinci code, right? Right, okay. The movie, right?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah, but you love a bit of Dan Brown. That's your favourite writer. This is the myth that's kind of followed me around. Ironically, Dan Brown should write a fucking book about it
Starting point is 00:10:30 about the myth that I like Dan Brown but anyway it got served up so do you know what I thought? Do you know what? I'm going to fucking watch it.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm going to watch the fucking thing, right? It's alright. Da Vinci Cards are alright. The rest of them are a bit trash but I thought it was so bad I couldn't get through it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It was alright. Come on. Can I a bit trash, but... I thought it was so bad I couldn't get through it. It was alright. Come on. Can I just please say there's two bits in it which just made me laugh out loud. Bearing in mind, Ron Howard has done some good films. Yeah. Tom Hanks is a safe pair of hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's got Sir Ian McKellen in it. It's got Audrey Tattoo in it. It's got Jean Reno in it. They're all quite good actors. Yeah. There's two bits in it which made me lose the will to live and the second of those bits meant i just turned it off the first one was we are expected to believe that a 2000 year old secret society of which the main um curator of or caretaker of has just been brutally murdered, passes the key to the secret down to his granddaughter. She knows nothing about it, but don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 It turns out the address for the key is actually printed on the key itself. Fuck off. Right, okay. It's a secret fucking society of 2,000 years repute, and you got that far keeping secrets by printing addresses of keys on the keys themselves yeah but you put that yeah but it's like keeping another key under the mat in it you like you need
Starting point is 00:11:50 some failsafe for someone who's a bit forgetful i think do you put on your house keys your address no you don't there's a good reason for that no you don't not even estate agents do that for crying out loud and the second bit is the french police are chasing down these guys. They fly to Britain, right? To a secret airport. Not a secret airport, but like a private airport, like an airfield. And the French police speak to the British police.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So the British police turn up at the airfield when they land. And so, by the way, the French police are after you guys. Yeah. Fucking rotters. Yeah. To which Ian McKellen says,
Starting point is 00:12:25 oh, yeah, well, we haven't done anything wrong. So if you want to stop me, I'm afraid you're just going to have to shoot me. And just fucking walks off. They don't bother fucking stopping him. They don't just say, you know what? Stay here just for an hour while the French police turn up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Because we're part of the European Union Arrest Warrant, or we were then. Yeah. Heady days. And they just let him go. It doesn Union Arrest Warrant, or we were then. Yeah. Heady days. And they just let him go. That wouldn't happen. This is the thing. There are things that happen in film. He's a national treasure though, isn't he? True, actually. He's a national treasure, mate.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Imagine that. If you were a police officer and you had to go and arrest someone, it turned out to be Ian McKellen, would it make it tough? It would, wouldn't it? Yeah, it would. I'd be stealing a lot of memorabilia and trinkets. Do you really want to be known as the man who arrested Sir Ian McKellen? He must be in his late 70s by now probably as well. Anyway, it took me out of it.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I know you've got to suspend some disbelief when you're watching a movie sometimes. I actually also watched Bridge of Spies last weekend, which I thought was fantastic. You've had a heavy Tom Hanks weekend then, haven't you? I don't really know why because I wouldn't call myself a hank's a file would you uh hankering did you have a hankering for a bit of his uh yeah i uh i i watched a film on the strength of someone's haircut over the weekend in fact i forced uh my partner to watch it as well um miami vice michael mann's reimagining muscular reimagining of uh miami vice the tv show um i didn't know what the hell was going on during that film everything apart from
Starting point is 00:13:54 the key light is in darkness you can't you cannot figure out what the hell is going on um the the script god knows what the script was like because you can't hear a word anyone's saying, because there's constant helicopters, cars, like just noises happening, which means you can't figure out what's happening. Drugs, vice, I don't know. A Cuban-Chinese lady, I think, who's in charge of something. And I watched it just because of Colin Far farrell's mullet and i thought that is a good head of hair i like uh i like the trailer because it had a bit of jay-z and lincoln park in there and uh and at some point you're probably going to hear crockett's theme
Starting point is 00:14:37 you didn't hear jay-z and uh lincoln park and you certainly didn't hear crockett's theme annoyingly so just let everyone down, I think. I like Colin O'Farrill. I think he's decent. I quite enjoy it. He's a very watchable, charismatic chap. But did you get through the film? What's your general attitude? Were you stick at something to the end?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, yeah, we watched it. But it was just impossible to watch. If anyone else can explain to me why Miami Vice got such excellent reviews and whether Michael um michael man was still did he make heat i can't remember what films he got yeah i think he's still kind of riding high on that particular success because i just could not figure out how it got such good reviews have you ever considered and i mean this with love and i'm not saying it's the case but have you ever considered that your taste in things is trash?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, it is, but, I mean, we're talking about Miami Vice, the film. It's not. True, actually, yeah. If anything, I just thought that's right in your Venn diagram. It's not the Colours Red trilogy. What stuff do you know is trash but you like anyway? The way I abuse eggs is quite trashy, I think. I made coffee,
Starting point is 00:15:50 I made egg coffee today. What? It's like a Swedish thing that you do. You just basically get your coffee beans, ground coffee beans, couple of spoonfuls of that,
Starting point is 00:16:00 mix it in with an egg and the shell, mix it in, smash up the shell, smash up the shell, smash up the egg, and then add hot water. Sounds like a recipe for compost. Well, it is quite composty. And you pour the hot water in, and the proteins bind the coffee together.
Starting point is 00:16:17 So therefore, when you pour it out, you don't need like a calf at the air. You don't need to kind of like squish it down. You don't need to filter it because the coffee grounds and the eggshell kind of bind to the egg proteins. And the Swedes use it quite a lot. And also it takes the bitterness out of the coffee a little bit. It makes for quite a smooth, eggy coffee drink. Not unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Not unpleasant, to be honest. I heartily recommend it. Be honest, though. Are you going to do it again? No, it's a bloody mess it's a nightmare sludgy old uh egg and egg and coffee grounds all over the gaff never doing that again awful awful so basically the actual coffee you drink is separated out from the eggshell and the grounds and everything like that it's like nature's nature's cafeteria basically nature's
Starting point is 00:17:00 cafeteria exactly i've never heard of that before, ever. Never once heard of it. It's a fringe plan for eggs and coffee, I think. I don't think many people do it. Are you getting kind of like jaded by the whole lockdown thing now? Yeah, yeah, I am actually. I mean, I've got a Fiat 500 on the drive. Dive me out back to, dive me out back brown. I've got a Fiat 500 on the drive I can't drive
Starting point is 00:17:35 because the driving lesson. That's not because of lockdown, that's because you haven't passed your test. Yeah, I know. Well, look, I just thought, well, maybe I can familiarise myself. Can't just play lockdown for things. I've never had full sex with a woman.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, it's ridiculous. But I just thought, you know, I'll familiarize myself with the controls and have a little fiddle around. But yeah, it's just annoying
Starting point is 00:17:54 because like I had driving test lessons and driving test booked. I've got a driving test booked in April, early April. And this is what, and I'm not going to be able to pass my test, am I? Or I could have a good go.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Or I could just turn up with no lessons and just have a go at it. Do it anyway. If you paid for it, do it anyway. Has anyone done that? That would be brilliant if they had. I wonder how far you'd get through it. Just turn up. I've done no lessons.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Pay for a driving test, go to it. Having had no lessons, you can't even get in the right side of the car. I'd love to know one person, at least one person, has experienced a driving test as the first time they've ever sat in the driving seat of a car. Yeah, or just rock up and wet yourself and go, well, scary, isn't it? Scary driving, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:18:43 The reason I ask about the old lockdown jaded thing is because for the first however many months of it i was always like pretty like conscious of understanding that there were people out there a lot worse off than me and yeah trying to make sure i made a point of saying that you know i can't really complain because ultimately i can't but now i am getting to the point where i have seen more of the inside of this spare room as I ever thought I would before. It's just getting so tedious. Like every day is the same. Like I was saying to you, I think I might have said to you,
Starting point is 00:19:13 you know, I saw someone refer to the weekend as the two-day lunch break. Like it's exactly like that. You can't do anything. There is nothing different about it. So all I do every day is sit in the spare room and occasionally, probably once every other day, I get to go out for a walk or a run. That is it.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I sort of find myself sort of doing, like getting up at a reasonable hour and sort of like, you know, starting working quite early, you know, like nine o'clock, like quite early for what needs to be done. Quite early, like nine o'clock. And then sort of going off the boiler around about 12 not really getting back onto it about half one
Starting point is 00:19:51 and then it's just constant until about 10 o'clock at night and then i'm back at it and it's like because there's always you know you know you know like our jobs like there's always something to bloody do there's always something to fart about with there's always a show to edit there's always a show to release or talk or you know plan or whatever so there's always something to do and i find that that my days have just extended to like you know ridiculous 12-hour days and there's no need for it and and um yeah this this this third one whatever we're talking about we're talking three uh lockdown four whatever this is really starting i'm i'm arguing with my mom about captain tom see captain tom has got uh covid sadly he's We were talking about three, lockdown four, whatever. This is really starting to get... I'm arguing with my mum about Captain Tom.
Starting point is 00:20:27 See, Captain Tom has got COVID, sadly. He's obviously a very, very old man, so he's very at risk. I argued that it's not a great look for a man who obviously is a bit of a legend to go to Barbados and come back with COVID. And my mum is very much of the opinion that he deserved to go to Barbados. He could deserve to go to Barbados, but if you're risking your health with your family to go to Barbados and come back with COVID. And my mum is very much of the opinion that he deserved to go to Barbados. So he could deserve to go out of Barbados, but if you're risking your health with your family to go to Barbados, and I'm having this big argument with my mum,
Starting point is 00:20:52 and she's not backing down, I'm not backing down, and I just think we're going a bit mad. What's your old man saying about it? I think he'd probably, my dad is a little bit like me. Anyone who gains notoriety for something he always thinks they're skeletons so he probably thinks Captain Tom's
Starting point is 00:21:13 done something dreadful in his past I'm not saying he has fought in a war exactly Sir Tom did you see I saw something really funny about that Sir Tom had his vaccination, right?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Apparently. Did he have his vaccination? I don't know. I've not heard the reality. No. Anyway, there was some kind of conspiracy theory online during the rounds. What an amazing surprise, where these anti-vaxxers
Starting point is 00:21:40 and these anti-COVID deniers, whatever, were saying, you know, I bet Captain Sir Tom Moore got COVID from the vaccine. I bet that's why he got caught. You know, we used to talk about this. And they started sharing a load of articles about how, I told you, I told you he had the vaccine. And then someone pointing out a bit further down the line that they're all sharing articles about Tom Jones getting the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:22:06 By accident. If Captain Tom has not had the vaccine, why hasn't he had the vaccine? He should be front of the queue. He's in his hundreds. If someone's in their hundreds, they should be front of the queue, surely. That's maddening.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Maddening behavior. Maybe because didn't he travel to Barbados for this most recent lockdown? So there was a travel coronavirus. I think he was allowed to go there. So that's probably why he's missed out. Yeah, well, look, I need to come back with COVID. It's not an ideal situation,
Starting point is 00:22:34 but I'm very much on one side of things and my mum is very much on the other side of things and we're just arguing about it because we're, yeah, I think we're just slowly going mad. Yeah, exactly. So when you have these kind of running battles with your parents, how do they start? Because what tends to happen with me is I'll call my mum and my dad
Starting point is 00:22:56 and I'll have a chat with them, and I've got to the stage now where I don't ever really pick them up on things that I don't agree with. I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, yeah, whatever. And my parents are quite liberal, and they're both kind of, I guess they're quite similar to me. They voted for Remain like I did. They're not like mad conspiracy theories. I don't spend too much time on the internet.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So I guess I'm quite fortunate in that way. So it doesn't really come up that often. They don't really say much. It's just too objectionable. So I find it quite easy just to go, yeah, yeah, whatever, and then we're away. But with you, it starts off with a badly compressed JPEG shared by your dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And your mum says something you don't agree with, and you're off. Yeah, well, I mean, my dad's a bit of a mean monster, and I'm as objectionable as they come, really. So, yeah, it's usually me, to be honest, Luke. I've said something unimaginably bad and, yeah, we're off to the races then. It's great stuff. Does your sister ever get involved?
Starting point is 00:23:53 She's very much at the same kind of political persuasion as me. So she doesn't necessarily get involved. She's got two kids to worry about and a husband. Is that what it is? You've got nothing on? Is that what it is? Yeah, I've got nothing on. Yeah, I'll happily get involved.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Basically, you're metaphorically running around your family, just windmilling, seeing who wants a piece of it. Exactly. And someone steps up and takes a piece of the action. Correct, correct. All right, let's have a quick break. When we come back, we'll do some emails. We've got a couple of good ones, actually,
Starting point is 00:24:23 so look forward to that. We'll see you just on the other side of this. All right, let's have a quick break. When we come back, we'll do some emails. We've got a couple of good ones, actually, so look forward to that. We'll see you just on the other side of this. All right, then. This week at Sukarnov. Over at Self Care Club, wellness road-tested, Lauren and Nicole discussed intuitive eating and rebelling against diet culture.
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Starting point is 00:25:40 Luke and Pete Show. Let's get straight into it. If you want to get into the show, hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is our email address. We're on Instagram as well. Get in touch via that. Slide into our DMs. Slide into our lives with your information. Yeah, don't do anything rude though
Starting point is 00:25:52 because it might not be us manning the DMs. That's the problem. Well, don't say that because that'll make people want to do it more. Oh, yeah. We've seen everything.
Starting point is 00:26:01 We've seen everything on the internet, Mark. Yeah, that's true. Shout out to the guy who emailed us in with a load of conspiracy theory nonsense about vaccinations they did perhaps the bollocks to include his own name and instead did it from an anonymous gmail account um so you think if you were that into it you'd be able to put your name to it right i i i uh yeah oh yeah i think i read that one and also um the person who explained defragging to me that made the cut i'm reading
Starting point is 00:26:27 that email out over to you on thursday so you get used to it that i found that absolutely fascinating really okay fine i thought i'd made i thought i'd basically said the the nuts and bolts of that email in a swift 10 second riposte when we were talking about it last week on the show but clearly not experiences your experiences that are quite different to well because i remember you saying a lot of stuff i didn't understand right then this guy's emailed him with quite a really a really concise and quite informative explanation well well look forward to that everyone on thursday how to defragment why to defragment and why you don't defragment anymore on our drive how many other podcasts out there are explaining the process of a now defunct 90s piece
Starting point is 00:27:06 of computer admin that needed to be done if you were a dad, but only if you were a dad? Before you did the defrag on your PC back in the late 90s, the last kind of alert box that came up would say,
Starting point is 00:27:17 can you please just finally confirm that you are a dad? And you had to click yes. And then you did the defrag. Do you know what setting the thermostat is on right now? Yeah. Are you playing Dire setting the thermostat is on right now? Yeah. Are you playing Dire Straits in the background?
Starting point is 00:27:29 What's the most, what are the most, and I've got an email here and I will come on to it, but what are the most archetypal dad behaviours? I would say listen to Dire Straits and or Pink Floyd. Right, yeah. Constant, or would you say almost like the Nazification of the thermostat in the house? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I'd also go, yeah, anything like the shower was always a big one in our house. My dad was obsessed with, you had to run cool water through the shower after you'd finished so that the heating elements wouldn't crack or whatever. I've never heard of that before. No, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a good reason to do it but you think if you'd run you were running hot and cold hot and cold really quickly it would uh it would shorten the life of your of your heating elements that sounds like
Starting point is 00:28:14 something that's completely made up it doesn't it so it's basically defragmenting a shower that's what he's trying to do is that what dads do they just try and defragment everything? They just want order. They're trying to find order in a house that just has none because it's their goddamn house. I would say, well, my dad, the lottery. He had an obsession when the lottery came in. He had an obsession, a deep obsession with winning the lottery, his lottery numbers, his team's lottery numbers at work.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So, yeah, a lot of that business going on. Yeah, my dad was also obsessed with mobile phones. Oh, really? Okay. Into them. Yeah, just into them. Not really in a proper detailed way, but just always wants to have a look at the phone and upgrade to the latest one as quick as he can. Ah, that's quite modern.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Is it a dad thing to have everything in its right place, in the right order? They like to think so, don't they? And then you look at their toolbox and it's just an absolute shit show in there. I got a text from my dad earlier, no joke, and it literally said, I'm going to paint you a bench.
Starting point is 00:29:21 What colour would you like it? My dad's making us a bench for the garden. Oh, that's nice. That's good dad behaviour as well. Get in touch. Hello at LukeandPetecher.com with your best dad behaviour. Is he going to come up in pieces and you're going to assemble it? No, I think he's going to properly assemble it himself.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I think he's going to put it together. I don't think I would be able to assemble it, so it's going to have to be him. Have you got an email lined up? Or do you want me to do this one about migraines? Yeah, bash into it in the migraine chat. All good. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So I said, didn't I, last week that I had a migraine, and I was asking if people had had their own different migraine symptoms because they're like a fascinating area. Or maybe I am just turning into a dad. But Matt has said the following. Hi, guys. Enjoyed the chat about migraines. As a sufferer since my teens, I wanted to share my experience of my first migraine,
Starting point is 00:30:12 which started when I was in year nine physics. So that is, what, 14 years old? In the middle of a very boring session where pages of notes were being dictated by the teacher for us to write down. I mean, Matt goes on to say the following sentence, I'm pretty capable academically. And I feel like he should be teased for that.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, I can handle myself in the world of, in the arena of thought. Is that what he's saying? That's what he's saying, yeah. And he says, I went on to get an English degree some years later. So it came as a surprise when I started to become unable to spell the simplest words in the notes. And I would also add to that, Matt, an English degree is the easiest of all the degrees,
Starting point is 00:30:50 in my opinion. It doesn't mean you can spell frequently. Like English lit degrees. True. There's a lot of people I know that have got those and they cannot spell or use correct grammar. But it's the only subject in which you've already got a basis of knowledge in it by definition yeah yeah do you know what i mean more yeah more of that please i guess yeah you don't learn like
Starting point is 00:31:11 physics when you're three but you do learn so i guess you you enjoy the effects of it i suppose yeah yeah true um anyway matt says so it came as a surprise when i started to become unable to spell the simplest words in the notes. As concerned as I was, I was less concerned than my teacher was when I raised my hand to say I wasn't feeling well, only to find that I'd also lost the ability to speak. Somewhere between my brain and my mouth, the words became garbled and came out as complete nonsense. What I now know to be the first signs of an oncoming migraine were, at the time, terrifying for both myself and the teacher, who admitted in the next lesson he thought i was having a stroke
Starting point is 00:31:48 brackets a man of science let's not forget um for the next few years these attacks came every few months and included very specific symptoms in the same order each time number one inability to write or speak coherently number two numbness and tingling down the left side of my face, including tongue and left arm. Number three, flashing lights and partial blindness in my vision. Number four, excruciatingly painful headaches, which would last around 12 hours, followed by the classic nausea and sensitivity to light for a couple of days. Thankfully, these attacks have become far less frequent, and I now have one every few years, and they're they're much more mild however i'm understandably annoyed when someone near me gets a slight headache and claims they have a migraine and all i want to do is quote pirates of the
Starting point is 00:32:33 caribbean and whisper you know nothing of hell kind regards matt so some interesting symptoms there pete i mean it it was like you said last week, I cannot believe that you are able to experience those symptoms and then not be in A&E going, I'm dying, I'm dying, help. I can see lights. Things are vibrating. They feel like symptoms of something that would be much more serious. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, yeah. Honestly. It feels bad. It's horrible. It's chilling. Someone was talking about COVID yesterday, that's the thing yeah yeah i honestly bad it's horrible it's chilling it's it but i i someone was talking about um covid yesterday and and he was sort of saying obviously it's not it's not as um as uh as easy to deal with as flu but what people kind of forget about flu is that most
Starting point is 00:33:23 people don't get flu no you know what i mean flu can affect people can have like a long leg it can it can affect people for three months after they've had it and it does last for weeks on end it can be as debilitating as the milder forms of covid so it's like people are sort of saying oh it's just it's just flu it's obviously much more serious than that and the death rate is way higher. Oh, I think when people say that, they basically... So as you said, they mean the cold. When someone says that, they mean the cold, don't they?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah, yeah. No, I completely agree. Because flu, I think I've had it twice in my life. It is rancid. It's like I've only had food poisoning twice in my life, and it's rancid. It's like nothing that I have ever experienced poisoning twice in my life and it's rancid it's like nothing that i have ever experienced before it's horrible absolutely i had um i had i had food poisoning
Starting point is 00:34:11 from a burger van outside white hart lane once right and um it was so bad that i can remember it was around maybe march or april and there was a i think it was i think it was around maybe March or April. And I think it was around when Bradford City got to the League Cup final. And I think they were beaten by Swansea. And it was when Michael Swansea won the League Cup. So whatever year that was. In either the semi or the quarterfinal, Bradford knocked out Arsenal. And I remember really wanting to watch the game.
Starting point is 00:34:48 It was on TV and that was when I had food poisoning. And the food poisoning was so bad, I couldn't actually get from the bedroom to the living room. It was that bad. I had to listen to it on the radio because I couldn't move. Yeah, it's horrible. Absolutely horrible. Absolutely debilitating. Yeah, I would never want ever ever want a uh a a migraine i just i
Starting point is 00:35:08 just think they sound absolutely rancid uh should we squeeze in a quick email before we shuffle off yeah go for it yeah all right cool uh we got one from who've we got here um yeah well just um just adam um a long overdue pete chinese food update uh can we get an update on whether Pete has managed to find a replacement Chinese in his new pastures? Yeah. And if he's still fueling himself for half the week with one order. Everyone deserves a great local succulent Chinese meal. And indeed, a great local succulent Chinese meal story.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yes, I have found one, and I get my little scoter, and I tootle up to it, and I collect it. And I don't know whether it's a chinese yourself yeah no exactly yeah i'm a delivery guy you got a jacket and i'm not gonna i'd love a jacket apparently a lot of like east londoners were like getting taken a couple of days out and being a delivery driver just so they can get the jacket because they're quite cool the reflectiveness is like really kind of like space age and stuff. You know, they would go to raves in them and stuff. It's as tragic as that in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:36:07 They would go to the rave in them. Yeah, to those hype beasts, they were very attractive. But yeah, so yeah, I have and I popped up on there on, I think Friday it was. And it was just a bit of a mess really because people, some people weren't wearing masks. Some people didn't really know. Some people, everyone was sort of in a crescent outside the Chinese.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Some people were going, have you ordered? Are you collecting? Did you phone up earlier? And there was no system. There was no system, Luke. It was very upsetting. What did you do then? Well, I finally got my food and I managed to eat it over two days.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I had it for yesterday, sorry, the day after lunchtime. So yeah, it did me quite well. Did you have to sleep in the spare room because of it or what? I didn't, no, no, I didn't. There's a takeaway place near me. It's one of those places that does kebabs, fish and chips, burgers, and chips burgers all that stuff right now ordinary i would never get fish and chips from there because i prefer a dedicated place yeah but this guy who runs this place he's a really nice guy he's like a bit of a pillar of the local community and um he's really friendly i used to go in there occasionally on the way back
Starting point is 00:37:20 from when i used to do a late at night radio show so he'd be the only place still open i'd grab some food on the way back and he used to get chatting a late-night radio show. So he'd be the only place still open. I'd grab some food on the way back. And I used to get chatting to him, particularly if it wasn't a weekend night because he wouldn't be that busy. And he's a really good guy. And I saw him. I was out for a walk the other night.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I walked past it and I heard a bit of commotion. And he's hard. He's probably about my height, but he's muscly. And he's got a proper Elvis haircut. I think he might be Turkish, but he's got a great Elvis haircut. And I had a bit of commotion and he was absolutely berating two younger
Starting point is 00:37:52 lads who didn't have masks on. Basically telling them to get the fuck out of his shop and never come back again. In the middle of it, he looked over and just gave me a quick wave. And I kind of waved back and he just carried on with his verbal assault. Good on him.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I think you must become, if you were to run, if any adult human being was to run that kind of city-based takeaway fast food place. Saturday night hell spot. You'd just become hard, wouldn't you? I think you should be allowed to go in the Marines if you want, like after that.
Starting point is 00:38:28 It should count as experience, as relevant experience. Yeah, I think that's on the job training quite frankly. That's like, you know, would you like to fight ISIS now?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, yeah. I don't want the machine gun, I'll just use this big knife that I use to cut the meat. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It's a weapon of choice. The things they have seen, my God. Oh, mate. I told you, my friend used to live opposite one, and we used to sit there looking out the window off his little balcony every Friday and Saturday night having a smoke. It was absolutely brilliant because the amount of stuff that would go on. It was incredible. It's just insanity.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Absolutely insanity. Anyway, let's get out of here. We'll be back on Thursday with the next episode of this unplanned nonsense. We've been stuck around for quite a long time today. We must have nothing else on. No, we haven't because none of us can leave the house. We'll see you on Thursday. Do leave us a review on the old Apple podcasts
Starting point is 00:39:18 and do check us out on Instagram at Luke and Pete Show. Producer Nat does a brilliant job of that as well. And if you want to get in touch, hello at Luke and Pete show.com is the email address for anything you want to talk about any subjects you've got to suggest anything you've heard today that you might want to respond to. And yeah, we look forward to hearing from you over there as well.
Starting point is 00:39:39 So goodbye, Peter. Goodbye. Goodbye from me as well. This was a Stakhanov production and part of the ACAST Creative Network.

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